Ollie

[batmagadanleadoff]

Ceetar wrote: Yeah, [Ollie's] sucking, can't get it together, and isn't effective, but releasing Ollie(or anyone) makes the Mets 0% better for 2011....

You are so pessimistic.

[metirish]

Ollie is gone, released.

[Guest The Second Spitter]

Fuck me.

[bmfc1]

HOORAY! It happened way too late but it finally happened. Sandy has the nerve that Omar lacked. I just wish that they did it before ST began to avoid wasting any time on him. Good riddance.

[Guest The Second Spitter]

Whether Sandy will be so eager to wield the axe on one of his own signings remains to be seen. Although, with $18M flushed away in the last couple of days the bar is set pretty high (or should that be low?).

[metirish]

By Adam Rubin Oliver Perez was informed he was being released by the New York Mets on Monday morning, with the club eating his $12 million owed. The Mets also had eaten $6 million owed to Luis Castillo three days earlier. "When they told me, I almost knew what they were going to tell me," Perez said. "It's one of those times you don't feel great, but I don't want to quit. I think I've got more in my career." Perez indicated he believed he got a fair shot from the Mets' new regime. "I think they gave me an opportunity," he said. "They were fair with me when I came here. 'We're going to give you an opportunity to be a starter.' I didn't do anything great. They moved me to the bullpen trying to be a lefty specialist. And the last game, that was a real horrible job."

[Frayed Knot]

At least Rubin words things with a bit more tact (and better syntax) than does Puma over at the Post:

The Mets� long, national nightmare is over. Oliver Perez is history with the Mets, after Monday morning receiving word from general manager Sandy Alderson and manager Terry Collins that he would be released. The putrid lefty appeared in the team�s clubhouse at 8:15 a.m. and began shaking hands with players ...

[Ceetar]

At least Rubin words things with a bit more tact (and better syntax) than does Puma over at the Post: The Mets� long, national nightmare is over. Oliver Perez is history with the Mets, after Monday morning receiving word from general manager Sandy Alderson and manager Terry Collins that he would be released. The putrid lefty appeared in the team�s clubhouse at 8:15 a.m. and began shaking hands with players ...

Working it like that is what most fans want to hear, so it sells better. also explains their attitudes and jokes regarding them.

[metirish]

Would expect noting less from the Puma, whenever I see "national nightmare" in a sport column I tend not to read on.

[Guest Edgy DC]

At least Rubin words things with a bit more tact (and better syntax) than does Puma over at the Post: The Mets� long, national nightmare is over. Oliver Perez is history with the Mets, after Monday morning receiving word from general manager Sandy Alderson and manager Terry Collins that he would be released. The putrid lefty appeared in the team�s clubhouse at 8:15 a.m. and began shaking hands with players ... Working it like that is what most fans want to hear, so it sells better. also explains their attitudes and jokes regarding them.

It's awful.

(Let's add "long national nightmare" to Reference Hell.)

[MFS62]

Wow!
They released Ollie.
Never saw that one coming.

Later

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

At least Rubin words things with a bit more tact (and better syntax) than does Puma over at the Post: The Mets� long, national nightmare is over. Oliver Perez is history with the Mets, after Monday morning receiving word from general manager Sandy Alderson and manager Terry Collins that he would be released. The putrid lefty appeared in the team�s clubhouse at 8:15 a.m. and began shaking hands with players ...

Well, it's not my taste. But to my mind, he's owed a ton of leeway, following the credibility bump that dead-on Luis Hernandez story bought him.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Interesting. This would kinda smell like old-school Pops Steinbrenner, no?

Yankees people have discussed ollie as cheap sign. Initial read: cashman not that enthused. Dbacks, w towers ties, best hope? about 3 hours ago via Mobile Web

[bmfc1]

Perez to the Nationals. To my friends that root for my local team: "HA-HA!"

[Ceetar]

bmfc1 wrote: Perez to the Nationals. To my friends that root for my local team: "HA-HA!"

Well, not really. They'll either 'fix' him or he'll never make the majors. at least, you would have to assume. They're not handicapped by anything, he's not even going to be on the 40 man.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Yeah. The bigger HA HA should be directed at the team paying him the $12 million.

[bmfc1]

Just his being around them has a negative effect. My crazy Nats fan friend tweeted "Nooooo!"

[Ceetar]

He can hang and pitch with Chien Ming Wang down where ever Nats minor leaguers pitch.

[Guest metsguyinmichigan]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Yeah. The bigger HA HA should be directed at the team paying him the $12 million.

I'd hate to be THOSE poor bastards! Oh, wait....

[Ceetar]

metsguyinmichigan wrote: Benjamin Grimm wrote: Yeah. The bigger HA HA should be directed at the team paying him the $12 million. I'd hate to be THOSE poor bastards! Oh, wait....

Should we be rooting for him to get semi-straightened out and make the team to save the mets 400k?

[seawolf17]

Two guys I wanted off my team are now off my team, but they've gone to division rivals. This concerns me, for no really good reason.

[G-Fafif]

So NOW he's a fan of minor league contracts.

[ashie62]

Ceetar wrote: He can hang and pitch with Chien Ming Wang down where ever Nats minor leaguers pitch.

Now thats funny.

[Fman99]

Ashie62 wrote: Ceetar wrote: He can hang and pitch with Chien Ming Wang down where ever Nats minor leaguers pitch. Now thats funny.

They happen to play right here in beautiful Syracuse, New York!

(It snowed four inches today. The Chiefs season starts in 15 days.)

[Willets Point]

Wow, some objective and well-written insight regarding Oliver Perez and the Mets.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Willets Point wrote: Wow, some objective and well-written insight regarding Oliver Perez and the Mets.

I think many of the fans campaigning for Ollicide signed off on his contract at the time, it was his arriving to camp in poor shape in '09 and refusal to accept the demotion in '10 that really turned them on him. I was in favor of the contract at the time and would do it again, probably.

[metirish]

I recall being quite chuffed for Ollie and his contract...

[Vic Sage]

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Willets Point wrote: Wow, some objective and well-written insight regarding Oliver Perez and the Mets. I think many of the fans campaigning for Ollicide signed off on his contract at the time, it was his arriving to camp in poor shape in '09 and refusal to accept the demotion in '10 that really turned them on him. I was in favor of the contract at the time and would do it again, probably.

this.

I remember when Trachsel was crap and was asked to go down, and he did. and he came back better. I never had any use for Trax before that (the human rain delay drove me crazy on the mound), but i gave him props for going down, working hard, and coming back stronger.

Yes, Ollie had the right to say no. That didnt make it the right thing to do.
Ollie can suck it.

[Guest The Second Spitter]

I certainly preferred Ollie over Derek Lowe -- but the size of his contract was perplexing as it appeared the market for him was non-existant, and that Omar was only bidding against himself (IIRC The only other team mentioned were the Orioles, but they're linked with every starting pitcher that goes on market).

Like Castillo's contract, many fans saw it as a non-arm's length arrangement, which was why they turned on him so quickly when things went sour.