Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

[Guest Edgy DC]

Yeah, well, he's not really quoting me correctly. i just think they have to add to the shortstop depth chart. Whether they find somebody for the major league roster or the minor league one. But yeah, I'm more concerned about a few innings without Tejada than a few games.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Ruben Tejada is 21 years old, and has a four-day vacation coming up.

Turner HAS played SS before, including 21 games last year in Buffalo, and will likely back up in a pinch (as he was slated to when called up).

[Guest Edgy DC]

Which is why I say what I say. I'm not afraid of fatiguing the guy, but rather of (a) him getting hurt, or ( wanting to pinch hit for him in a game situation but being afraid to go forward in extra innings with Turner or Harris.

Really, the main issue I mean to get at is with Reyes down and Hu gone, we need to shore up the organizational depth.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Wright to join the St. Lucie Mets on Friday. The goal is to have him return to the big leagues by July 22 when the Mets are in Miami.

[Ceetar]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Wright to join the St. Lucie Mets on Friday. The goal is to have him return to the big leagues by July 22 when the Mets are in Miami.

I'm hopeful for Wright. Not expecting a relapse, especially since he was playing through the injury anyway. Not slated for another test, so I doubt he doesn't return.

Reyes is supposed to run tomorrow. Since he supposedly was on the field doing normal baseball type stuff at the All-Star Game, is it reasonable to expect he's probably okay, they were just conservative? If he runs tomorrow, is he activiated Monday? Do they get him a rehab start? is it in Brooklyn so he doesn't have to go away?

Ike still seems a ways off, but it sounds like he _is_ healing now. At least no microfracture.

[TransMonk]

I'm pretty confident both Wright and Reyes will return on their current announced schedules.

I'm not hoping for anything from Ike and Johan other than that they'll be 100% for 2012.

[Benjamin Grimm]

TransMonk wrote: I'm pretty confident both Wright and Reyes will return on their current announced schedules. I'm not hoping for anything from Ike and Johan other than that they'll be 100% for 2012.

My hunch is that we'll see both Ike and Johan active in August, but you're right; Reyes and Wright seem much more promising at this point.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Wright's gonna have a huge second half.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Interesting (if slightly overwrought in spots) piece here on Buchholz's struggle with depression, courtesy of AOL Patch.

He didn�t want to look in the mirror that morning. He�d been floating by mirrors for some time now, his reflection a shadowy distortion. He didn�t like the face he saw, either. He didn�t like what he was becoming. He reached for the stubble on his chin as he dragged his feet across the natty hotel room rug that morning, eyelids half-mast and not too eager to begin a new day with a hot shower. He hated the dark place where he was; only he didn�t know he was in a dark place. Maybe today will be different, he tried to convince himself. Maybe I�ll look forward to going to the ballpark and throwing again, he thought. That�s when Taylor Buchholz hit his nadir.

[metirish]

He didn�t want to look in the mirror that morning. He�d been floating by mirrors for some time now, his reflection a shadowy distortion. He didn�t like the face he saw, either. He didn�t like what he was becoming.

James Patterson wrote this?

Geez

[Fman99]

He didn�t want to look in the mirror that morning. He�d been floating by mirrors for some time now, his reflection a shadowy distortion. He didn�t like the face he saw, either. He didn�t like what he was becoming. He reached for the stubble on his chin as he dragged his feet across the natty hotel room rug that morning, eyelids half-mast and not too eager to begin a new day with a hot shower. He hated the dark place where he was; only he didn�t know he was in a dark place. Maybe today will be different, he tried to convince himself.

[Ceetar]

Did Collins say Reyes was supposed to run in the outfield and the bases tonight, or tomorrow? One of those, and then they'll plan his return. no problems, Terry implied it'd be Monday.

[metsmarathon]

regardless of the writing, all the best to taylor.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Ike, meanwhile, is doing everything he can to preserve Daniel Murphy's career:

Davis takes step backward, may need surgery By Aaron Taube / MLB.com NEW YORK -- Mets general manager Sandy Alderson said Wednesday he didn't expect injured first baseman Ike Davis to make an impact by the July 31 non-waiver Trade Deadline. On Thursday, the Mets announced it will likely be much longer than that. Davis had progressed to running on artificial turf with his injured left ankle Saturday, but he felt sharp pain after a similar workout the next day. Though Davis said he felt better later and even went jogging that day, by Thursday he was receiving a cortisone shot from a doctor in North Carolina. If the bone bruise and damaged cartilage in his ankle are not almost entirely healed within three weeks, he will have season-ending surgery. "Some days it feels really good, some days it doesn't," Davis said. "The cortisone shot is like a last-ditch effort to see if I can push forward without having to have surgery. "If it's not pretty much gone by then, then we'll think about surgery. Hopefully this cortisone shot kind of knocks all the inflammation out and I'm good to go after this." Davis' announcement was almost identical to the one the Mets made June 22, when Alderson said that if Davis was not better in three weeks, he would have season-ending surgery. Davis will rest for the next four to five days with the team in New York, during which time he will get a second opinion and an MRI. After that, he will return to the Mets' Spring Training complex in Port St. Lucie, Fla. In order for Davis to return, Alderson said he wanted him to be running for a period of time before returning to baseball activity. Davis said he never expected to be out this long, originally thinking he had merely rolled his ankle in a May 10 collision with David Wright. Thursday's news was even more frustrating given the superb season Davis had been enjoying prior to his injury. Davis batted .302 with a .383 on-base percentage in 149 plate appearances, but more than anything, the Mets have missed his power. Davis' .543 slugging percentage is best on the team, and his seven home runs trail only Carlos Beltran's 13. "The biggest thing really is, you miss doing your job," Davis said. "I trained all offseason, I trained hard. I did Spring Training, I got ready. To play a month and a couple weeks is not the goal. It's a lot of effort to put into something and then get it cut short."

[ashie62]

The Star Ledgers take..not too spoony on Ike and Johan

http://www.nj.com/mets/index.ssf/2011/07/mets_ike_davis_gets_cortisone.html

[TransMonk]

TransMonk wrote: I'm not hoping for anything from Ike and Johan other than that they'll be 100% for 2012.

The Star Ledger wrote: But if the injury does not improve, Davis said he�ll have surgery to correct the problem, which would more than likely eliminate his chances of making a return this season.

Sandy Alderson via the Star Ledger wrote: �We have to look at the importance of Johan pitching this season as it relates to next year,� Alderson said. �I don�t see him coming back and playing a meaningful role in any pennant race this season.�

[ashie62]

Ledger pushed Jose beyond Monday, but I guess that was a given and no surprise.

[Centerfield]

I'd feel better if one of these guys would confirm that if Davis has that surgery he will be 100% for spring training next year.

[ashie62]

Centerfield wrote: I'd feel better if one of these guys would confirm that if Davis has that surgery he will be 100% for spring training next year.

This.

[Guest Edgy DC]

I got the bartender at the Austin Grill to find SNY (channel 649, it was). Among the shots of Reyes taking batting practice, Davis smiling on the bench, and Wright pitching outrageously inefficient SUVs, it was like DL porn.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

One play after Carlos Gomez takes a serious shot to the collarbone... well, I'm no orthopedist, but I'm pretty damn sure Stephen Drew's season is over.

OE: Blech. (NOT for the squeamish.)

[Ceetar]

Talk is Johan Santana could be less than a month away. Talk about a rehab start for the Cyclones August 6th (which sucks! I'm gonna be at the August 5th game! )

[A Boy Named Seo]

One play after Carlos Gomez takes a serious shot to the collarbone... well, I'm no orthopedist, but I'm pretty damn sure Stephen Drew's season is over. OE: Blech. (NOT for the squeamish.)

Holy shit, that's gross. Visions of Thiesman...

[Guest Edgy DC]

Here's a better vision. A vision of fishing for health and wellness.

Johan Santana eyes rehab start By Adam Rubin ESPNNewYork.com Archive MIAMI -- New York Mets left-hander Johan Santana confirmed he is ready to advance to a minor league rehab game assuming he throws a bullpen session without issue before Sunday's Mets-Marlins game at Sun Life Stadium. Santana, working his way back from Sept. 14 surgery to repair a torn anterior capsule in his left shoulder, threw a three-inning simulated game Friday in Port St. Lucie, Fla. He then joined the Mets for their weekend series in Miami. The Mets are eyeing Wednesday for Santana's first minor league game, which would start a maximum 30-day clock for him to return to the majors. "After tomorrow, I hope that if everything goes right, I'll get an opportunity to maybe get in a minor league game or something like that," Santana said Saturday. "It's not for sure. But if everything is fine and they evaluate that it's fine, then that's what we're going to do." Manager Terry Collins would like Santana to pitch in the major leagues this season, if for no other reason than to have peace of mind during the offseason that the shoulder will not be an issue in 2012. "I've told him so. I think it will be very, very important for him to get some outings this year so that (when) he comes in next spring, the doubt is gone," Collins said. Said Santana: "I'm working my way back, and I hope to be back sometime this season. That's where we're at right now, and that's what I want to do. But if it doesn't happen, it doesn't mean it's the end of the world. We are here on the same page, and we want to make sure looking toward the future we're in good shape." Santana is signed for two more seasons, with a team option for 2014. He registered 89 mph during his most recent session facing batters. The southpaw believes the velocity will rise as he goes through a spring training-like program over the next month. "It's too early to think about velocity," Santana said. "The next couple of weeks are going to be important, and I'm going to have a better idea of where the velocity is and how I feel when I throw the ball. ... It's just a matter of getting the strength back. Time, I think, will dictate how I'm going to be. But as of now I feel good." The track record for returning from the type of surgery Santana underwent has not been favorable. Chien-Ming Wang is still trying to work back to the major leagues for the first time since 2009 with the New York Yankees. Still, Santana indicated he remains upbeat. He added that he has not consulted Mark Prior, Wang or any other pitcher who has undergone the procedure. "Everybody's different," Santana said. "It all depends how you approach this. It's not easy. But, at the same time, it's not impossible. As of now, I feel good." Santana had been held off a mound for two weeks in early June after experiencing what general manager Sandy Alderson described as discomfort in the shoulder. Santana minimized that issue, noting he continued to throw on flat ground during that time period while staying off the mound. "I felt, and my body was telling me, to long toss more than just get on the mound, because that intensity was definitely different than what I was doing," Santana said. "I went back to long toss and everything was fine. And after I got on the mound again, I was doing this with no problem." Santana added: "Just because you have a program written down doesn't mean you have to follow it exactly how it is." Santana said the season-long absence from the Mets has been passable because he has his children with him while rehabbing. He also has gone fishing on occasion with injured first baseman Ike Davis at a pond behind the Mets' Port St. Lucie complex. "I didn't know how to fish," Santana said. "Ike, every time he casts, he gets something. I was like, 'Again?' And I was just hanging there, just being careful for a snake or something -- I don't know, an alligator. We got a raccoon one time. It came out of nowhere. I was like, 'Oh, god.' But it was a great time." Adam Rubin covers the Mets for ESPNNewYork.com.

[Ceetar]

That last part was great. I think I know that lake too, I drove that way to the park once, got cursed at by a crossing guard in front of a school. I hope he means they got visited by a raccoon once..not caught it out of the lake?

Santana said the season-long absence from the Mets has been passable because he has his children with him while rehabbing. He also has gone fishing on occasion with injured first baseman Ike Davis at a pond behind the Mets' Port St. Lucie complex. "I didn't know how to fish," Santana said. "Ike, every time he casts, he gets something. I was like, 'Again?' And I was just hanging there, just being careful for a snake or something -- I don't know, an alligator. We got a raccoon one time. It came out of nowhere. I was like, 'Oh, god.' But it was a great time."

[Guest Edgy DC]

Mr. Rubin wrote: MIAMI -- New York Mets left-hander Johan Santana threw a 45-pitch bullpen session at Sun Life Stadium before Sunday's game against the Florida Marlins and declared he is ready to pitch in a minor league rehab game if he awakes on Monday feeling similarly good. "I think we actually started spring training a week ago, a week and a half ago, when we moved the bullpens closer together," said Mets rehab coordinator Randy Niemann, who monitored Santana's bullpen session along with the major league staff. "We started batting practice. That's what you would do in spring training. He's gotten to the point where, if he recovers, and he's feeling good, we can start getting into games, like you would in spring training." Santana underwent Sept. 14 surgery to repair a torn anterior capsule in his left shoulder. The Mets are eyeing a minor league game on Wednesday for Santana. Niemann expects Santana's pitch count in his first game would be about 45 as well. "I felt good overall," Santana said about Sunday's session, which came two days after he threw a three-inning simulated game in Port St. Lucie, Fla. "I think all the work that we have been doing is paying off. The way I'm feeling right now, I'm getting closer." Niemann recounted the progress Santana has made since he became fatigued just throwing briefly on flat ground a couple of months ago. "I told him the other day, I reminded him, when we were out to 60 feet and his arm got tired at 25 throws," Niemann said. "What a difference. He's made great progress. I'm very proud of how hard he's worked. Every time I see him on the mound, I see it just a little bit better than the last time. That's what we're looking for. And then the biggest thing is how he recovers the next day. ... We'll take it one step at a time. You can't get ahead of anything in the rehab game. That's for sure." Said Santana: "We still have some way to go, but I'm feeling better. And that's what we're looking for day in and day out -- that every day I feel better, every time I throw in the bullpen or off the mound I feel good. The last couple of times has been really good." Adam Rubin covers the Mets for ESPNNewYork.com.

[Guest Edgy DC]

And... no.

No midweek minors game for Johan? July, 25, 2011By Adam Rubin Johan Santana throws a bullpen session Sunday in Miami. Despite weekend suggestions Johan Santana is ready to proceed to a minor league game on Wednesday -- including from Santana himself -- GM Sandy Alderson indicated the ace is likely to instead throw another simulated game, according to a tweet from Binghamton Mets beat writer Lynn Worthy. Santana threw a bullpen session Sunday in Miami and had suggested a midweek game would be next if he awoke Monday feeling up to it. But everyone stressed the plan was fluid and subject to change. Alderson told the Press & Sun-Bulletin of Binghamton on Sunday night via email: "The next outing for Johan will be in a controlled setting in Port St. Lucie."

Seems like step two in the gradual rollout of the white flag.

[Ceetar]

And... no. No midweek minors game for Johan? July, 25, 2011By Adam Rubin Johan Santana throws a bullpen session Sunday in Miami. Despite weekend suggestions Johan Santana is ready to proceed to a minor league game on Wednesday -- including from Santana himself -- GM Sandy Alderson indicated the ace is likely to instead throw another simulated game, according to a tweet from Binghamton Mets beat writer Lynn Worthy. Santana threw a bullpen session Sunday in Miami and had suggested a midweek game would be next if he awoke Monday feeling up to it. But everyone stressed the plan was fluid and subject to change. Alderson told the Press & Sun-Bulletin of Binghamton on Sunday night via email: "The next outing for Johan will be in a controlled setting in Port St. Lucie." Seems like step two in the gradual rollout of the white flag.

I don't know about that. Given the giant clusterfuck of reporters they let watch him Sunday, I always presumed htere would be a ton of speculation and assertions about what would happen next. But I was surprised when the rumors of a real game were brought up, because I really didn't think they wanted to start that 30 day clock. A controlled situation probably doesn't set his rehab back, but allows them to better keep the pace slow, so taht either he progresses and they give him a couple of majors starts, or they don't, and can keep him on the DL.

[Guest Edgy DC]

I don't know either. Just saying it seems like it.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

"Let's sit this one out" would be more of a definitive concession (duh).

This seems more like "let's not let competitive juices/possible freak injury come into play JUST yet, until we ramp up his sim-game/bullpen game a BIT more."