Yankee Offseason

[Guest Edgy DC]

My private (now public) hope is that Lee slips away and somebody quotes Cashman as saying something along the lines of any extra money he had to offer Lee went to Jeter.

[metirish]

Edgy DC wrote: My private (now public) hope is that Lee slips away and somebody quotes Cashman as saying something along the lines of any extra money he had to offer Lee went to Jeter.

That would be delicious....the other option is the price keeps going up....Newsday


7 years

The total package could be in excess of the seven-year, $161-million deal CC Sabathia received from the Yankees two years ago.

[Ceetar]

How's C.C.'s knee? Imagine he gets off to a slow start AND they don't get Lee?

[metirish]

Ceetar wrote: How's C.C.'s knee? Imagine he gets off to a slow start AND they don't get Lee?

The "comeback"

[Willets Point]

I'm really ashamed that this happenedin the city I used to call home.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

MFYs sign Russell "Mama's Boy" Martin.

Take that, Cliff Lee!

[HahnSolo]

I guess they don't think Jesus Montero is the shit anymore.

[MFS62]

HahnSolo wrote: I guess they don't think Jesus Montero is the shit anymore.

I'm guessing he will be used as trade bait for a pitcher.

Later

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

I think they're doing all they can to make sure Posada never catches again.

[Frayed Knot]

I'm sure the plan is to have Martin and some young'un/defensive guy do the catching while Posada DHs full (or mostly full) time.
They've got a bunch of decent-to-good catching candidates in their system so it'll be interesting to see what they do with Montero.
He's going to have a monster bat by all accounts but no one really thinks he'll be a catcher at the ML level when all is said and done. Plus 1B in Yankee-town is blocked until like forever and he's slow enough to be an honorary Molina brother meaning there's no chance he plays the OF.
So either he becomes a 22 y/o DH starting in 2012 (or whenever Whore-Hay gets hurt) or he's trade bait. Remember they already dealt him once for Lee ... or at least they thought they did.



btw, they also inked Mark Prior to a minor league deal.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

MFS62 wrote: HahnSolo wrote: I guess they don't think Jesus Montero is the shit anymore. I'm guessing he will be used as trade bait for a pitcher.

Almost definitely this. Whether it's Greinke or-- pleasepleaseplease-- the off-brand Greinke, because they don't want to take a risk on his Not Being Able to Handle the City TM Mike Francesa.

[Guest Edgy DC]

I'm hard-pressed to come up with who "off-brand Greinke" would be. Anibal Sanchez?

[Ceetar]

Edgy DC wrote: I'm hard-pressed to come up with who "off-brand Greinke" would be. Anibal Sanchez?

Carl Pavano?

Ted Lilly?

Lots of former Yankees they can try again. Like Vasquez.

[Benjamin Grimm]

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: ... because they don't want to take a risk on his Not Being Able to Handle the City TM Mike Francesa.

This perception goes well beyond Francesa. I'm not saying it's true that he wouldn't be able to "handle" New York, but he does have a diagnosed anxiety disorder, and it seems to be a commonly held opinion that Greinke needs to stay in a smaller market.

[Ceetar]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: ... because they don't want to take a risk on his Not Being Able to Handle the City TM Mike Francesa. This perception goes well beyond Francesa. I'm not saying it's true that he wouldn't be able to "handle" New York, but he does have a diagnosed anxiety disorder, and it seems to be a commonly held opinion that Greinke needs to stay in a smaller market.

Better the guy with the diagnosed, and theoretically treated, anxiety than the unproven though.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Nolasco? Still no big extension in Florida. (Not comfortably enough off-brand, though, for my taste.)

And granted.... many, many others are of the Can't-Handle-The-City mindset.

But Greinke's an adult who's been diagnosed with a very treatable emotional disorder, has been handling it fine for the past two years, and is made of a sterner porcelain than most think.

He's no more a spookable horse/other injury risk than any other very good young starting pitcher... which is to say that he, like they, would present a pretty sizable risk.

[Ceetar]

About Cole Hamels? weakens the Phillies, and I put it at even money he's a diaster in the Bronx.

[Guest Edgy DC]

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Nolasco? Still no big extension in Florida. (Not comfortably enough off-brand, though, for my taste.) And granted.... many, many others are of the Can't-Handle-The-City mindset. But Greinke's an adult who's been diagnosed with a very treatable emotional disorder, has been handling it fine for the past two years, and is made of a sterner porcelain than most think. He's no more a spookable horse/other injury risk than any other very good young starting pitcher... which is to say that he, like they, would present a pretty sizable risk.

That's the rub though. There's any number of reasons why he could fail or slip back toward the mean. Good pitching is ephemeral. (Say it ten times before you go to sleep and ten times when you wake up. I'm sure Sandy Alderson does.)

But if he does (fail or regress to the mean while pitching in the "big city"), it will surely be blamed on the "big city" and that tag will hang on him like a dead albatross the rest of his career.

[Frayed Knot]

No doubt Yanqui fans will flood the airwaves for trades with one or several of the Giants hurlers (at highly discounted prices of course) ... 'how 'bout Kei Igawa, Brett Gardner and a coupla prospects for Cain & Lincecum?'
Speaking of irrational yanqui fans, the one call I heard to FAN last night was from the stereotypical obnoxious YLDB 'Joe D from Brooklyn' who wanted an MLB investigation into why Lee wound up with the Phils when the Yanx offered the most money.

Other speculation will turn towards the Pacific northwest and Felix Hernandez but I don't see any reason why they'd want or need to deal him now.

Matt Garza is rumored to be available but I don't know if Tampa trades him in-division.

[metsmarathon]

oh, come on. why would they want felix hernandez? that guy doesn't know how to win.

[Ceetar]

Unless they trade like Hughes and Cano for him, King Felix on the Yankee would piss me off to no end.

Although it would be interesting to see if guys like michael kay, when Felix puts up much better numbers than CC again, AND wins 20 games, if they'll concede the point on win totals..

[Guest Edgy DC]

Yeah, right.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

MFY trade for MFer Justin "Slammy" Maxwell of Nats.

Now we have more reason to hate him.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Also, Freddy Garcia on a minor-league deal, no?

OE: Si.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Pettitte hanging them up.

[bmfc1]

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Pettitte hanging them up.

This will lead to an endless, and nauseating, debate about whether or not he's a HoFer.

[Guest Edgy DC]

It's going to be hard to continue after he's compelled to testify in the Clemens trial.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

bmfc1 wrote: John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Pettitte hanging them up. This will lead to an endless, and nauseating, debate about whether or not he's a HoFer.

Those career numbers, coupled with his being the Most Aggressive Balker ever, are tough to deny.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

bmfc1 wrote: John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Pettitte hanging them up. This will lead to an endless, and nauseating, debate about whether or not he's a HoFer.

I'll end the debate by saying he's not.

[bmfc1]

Damn, I just realized that we won't have any new close-ups of Pettitte's face with his glove over his mouth while he looks at the catcher.