Oye Como Va

[Frayed Knot]

Hank Steiny tells the NYTimes that they are O-U-T of the Santana sweepstakes.
Of course they had cut ties with ARod too ...


Angels also are apparently telling folks that they've broken off talks with Mini-soda concerning Johan (Sebastian) Santana

[metsmarathon]

if the yankees have indeed pulled out of the santana running over some overly early and curt deadline, allowing him to either reach the sox on the (slightly) cheap via trade or hit the free agent market next year, then hank might just become my favorite owner in all of sport.

[Frayed Knot]

SI.com's Jon Heyman (who, btw, has recently struck a deal with WFAN to be their regular all-purpose baseball contact) reports that the Mets are back talking to the Twins about Santana.

Not that he thinks this suddenly means that a deal is likely only that, with the Yanx & Angels supposedly out of the running and the BoSox deal in some sort of holding pattern, Omar is still keeping in touch on the subject in case an opening develops. Reyes is still being ruled out as a chip in any talks.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Do the Twins want to deal with the Yankees or the Toledo Mud Hens?

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Question: If the market for Pelfrey and Humber is as stinky as everyone says, why wouldn't the Mets dangle John Maine in front of these teams dying to score yoiung talent?

Not that I advocate trading Maine, necessarily, even if I did so brilliantly earlier this offseason in that blockbuster heist, but why the f not? If you want to be making trades he's the kinda guy you hafta be ready to part with. Young, cheap and proven to be pretty good.

[Vic Sage]

Except that trading Maine just creates another hole in the rotation that will have to be filled by either Pelfrey, Humber, Mulvey, Vargas, etc.. So the upgrade to the rotation would be more limited than getting a front of the rotation guy that pushes everybody back a notch (knocking our "prospects" back to AAA, where they belong)

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Yes, trading Maine instead of Pelfrey creates a great opportunity for Pelfrey, but if we're not ready to do that, then we can't be surprised when we can't pull the wool over the eyes of trading partners. I mean, Pelfrey's either good or he's not.

I guess what I'm saying here is, if we believe Pelfrey's gloing to be worth something in a trade, he oughta be worth something not in a trade. And if young cheap studs such as Haren get offers of a few regulars and a future star, offering up Maine oughta draw some some sweet action too.

[Vic Sage]

its not quite that black and white.

I think Pelfrey does have value, but perhaps not for the 08 Mets. A team thats looking for "futures" might be interested, in conjunction with other prospects, too, and return a proven arm of more use to us this year.

Of course, with young arms like Hughes, Bucholz and A.Miller getting bandied about, Pelfrey looks mighty pale.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Pelfrey will be 24 next year. I'd think if he's worth something in 2010, he's worth something in 2008.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

]Of course, with young arms like Hughes, Bucholz and A.Miller getting bandied about, Pelfrey looks mighty pale.

And Maine looks pretty good.

Like I said, I'm not looking for excuses to move the guy, but don't see a thing wrong with offering him up if a chance to improve the team should happen to require we trade him.

[seawolf17]

Don't need Santana any more. We got Kazmir back.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Holey shot

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

a fake, FU

[Guest Edgy DC]

OK, what gives?

[stevejrogers]

I think that site either has a "war" with the MOFO or one of their members is a MOFO guy and most likely that person put the spoof up with intentions of posting it on the MOFO.

OE: MacMets.com shows nothing, so probably it is more someone spoofing for internet fun.

Question is, how did Seawolf find it?

OE II: Another tell tale sign of its fakedom, there is no Scott Beck on MLB.com's staff apparently.

[Guest Edgy DC]

I don't know MLB.com's staff outside of Marty Noble and Bryan Hoch. I thought there not being a press conference at four was a giveaway.

Or the MLB.com page on a macmets URL.

I'm just sitting here weighing how long to ban seawolf for.

[seawolf17]

HEY! Not my page. Found it on another site. It's a good fake, except that the grammar sucks and some of the info is wrong.

[DocTee]

Motherfather.

You had me good.

[metirish]

I'm so down right now, for about ten seconds I was elated.

[Frayed Knot]

I don't think I want to know what THAT was all about.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

This crazy stunt interrupted my discussion of the merits of trading John Maine NOW!!!!!

[nymr83]

FUCK YOU whoever made that site.

[Willets Point]

seawolf17 wrote: Don't need Santana any more. We got Kazmir back.

Gulp, I wish!