nymr83 Old-Timey Member Posted September 3, 2007 Posted September 3, 2007 League Leaders 2007 (from Espn.com)David Wright:� Ranks 7th in NL in BA (.320) � Ranks 12th in NL in HR (26) � Ranks 9th in NL in RBI (91) � Ranks 5th in NL in R (94) � Ranks 9th in NL in BB (80) � Ranks 6th in NL in SB (30) � Ranks 6th in NL in OBP (.412) � Ranks 11th in NL in SLG (.542) � Ranks 8th in NL in OPS (.955) Since the All-Star break (minimum 200 plate appearances) Wright leads the NL in BA and OBP, is 2nd in OPS and Rs, and is 6th in RBIsedit- i am now Turk Wendell, please excuse me while I strike out Big Mac twice in a doubleheader.
Guest Johnny Dickshot Guests Posted September 3, 2007 Posted September 3, 2007 Just stay the hell away from Luis F. Vizcaino.
Guest Iubitul Guests Posted September 3, 2007 Posted September 3, 2007 If he gives us 4 more weeks of this - hell yeah.
Guest metsguyinmichigan Guests Posted September 3, 2007 Posted September 3, 2007 Absolutely!Who else is even in the conversation? Prince Fielder? Jimmy Rollins?But to be truthful, Mets players tend to get screwed in MVP voting. Darryl Strawberry losing to Dirty Kirk Gibson was terrible.And Seaver got robbed in 1969.
seawolf17 Old-Timey Member Posted September 3, 2007 Posted September 3, 2007 Fielder's a good bet, I'd think.
TransMonk Old-Timey Member Posted September 3, 2007 Posted September 3, 2007 Look at NL win shares and runs created. Those numbers look good for David as well.David will need to continue to produce through September at his August pace, but at this point his name should be mentioned in nearly every conversation.
Valadius Old-Timey Member Posted September 3, 2007 Posted September 3, 2007 If we go on a big win streak and he puts up big numbers through the month, he has a shot. Right now, he's in the mix, certainly, but I don't think he's established himself as #1.
DocTee Old-Timey Member Posted September 3, 2007 Posted September 3, 2007 I imagine lots of voters would split the Mets between Wright and Reyes, with Beltran getting some consideration, too. Fielder looks good...anyone on Arizona having a lights-out type of year?
nymr83 Old-Timey Member Posted September 3, 2007 Author Posted September 3, 2007 DocTee wrote:Fielder looks good...anyone on Arizona having a lights-out type of year?Brandon Webb is 16-5 with 2 ERA and that 40 inning scoreless streak... but considering how Pedro was robbed once its hard to see a pitcher winning it
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted September 3, 2007 Posted September 3, 2007 TransMonk wrote:Look at NL win shares and runs created. Those numbers look good for David as well.I'm sure the voters will care more about his steals.I think we should keep this quiet and let Wright worry about the business at hand.
Zvon Old-Timey Member Posted September 3, 2007 Posted September 3, 2007 Fielder is def in this drivers seat.But if Wright can get (or over):� HR (30)� RBI (100)� Runs (100)I think he carjacks that honor. Maaaaaaan, would I love to see this happen.
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted September 3, 2007 Posted September 3, 2007 He's def put himself into the mix.But so are Rollins, Fielder, Utley, Holliday, Pujols.The final month will matter a lot.
Guest Johnny Dickshot Guests Posted September 3, 2007 Posted September 3, 2007 Quietest rise to being the most complete hitter in the league I can remember.I mean, he sucked bhmc earlier this year.
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted September 3, 2007 Posted September 3, 2007 I may have to change my vote from the 'Reyes or Wright - one or the other' thread that we had a while back.I said at the time that Jose's newly found OBP skills put him as the better long-term bet where previously I would have backed Wright. I think I'm changing my mind again.
metirish Old-Timey Member Posted September 3, 2007 Posted September 3, 2007 I'm on record as saying he will not win,hope I am proved wrong of course.
Guest attgig Guests Posted September 4, 2007 Posted September 4, 2007 Frayed Knot wrote:He's def put himself into the mix.But so are Rollins, Fielder, Utley, Holliday, Pujols.The final month will matter a lot.Question is, how important is it that the MVP's team makes the playoffs? Ryan Howard obviously doesn't care... but some sportswriters might.bunch of those guys are question marks. utley's injury can hurt. milwakee's 1/2 half bust might leave people down on fielder. rollins for some reason has been quietly productive since saying they're the team to beat. perhaps too quiet for sportswriters. pujols is pujols, and might win it...i think a met has a good as a chance as any other guy in that list. and wright has been the best met.
Valadius Old-Timey Member Posted September 4, 2007 Posted September 4, 2007 If, heaven forbid, the Cardinals make the playoffs, Pujols could end up getting it. However, if David hits 4 more homers, keeps his batting average above .315, winds up with over 100 RBI and 100 runs scored, it looks like it's between him, Prince Fielder, and Matt Holliday. It all depends on which player and which team has the best September. If the Brewers don't make the playoffs, it seriously weighs against Fielder. Some voters might be put off by Holliday's Coors Field-inflated numbers. That leaves it up to Wright to separate himself from his teammates. If that happens, he has a fantastic shot at it.
DocTee Old-Timey Member Posted September 4, 2007 Posted September 4, 2007 ]If the Brewers don't make the playoffs, it seriously weighs against Fielder. Andre Dawson won MVP for the last place Cubs. As Branch Rickey would say, "we can finish last without you, too".
Willets Point Old-Timey Member Posted September 4, 2007 Posted September 4, 2007 DocTee wrote:I imagine lots of voters would split the Mets between Wright and Reyes, with Beltran getting some consideration, too. To perfectly honest, if the voters are having a really tough time picking between Wright, Reyes, and Beltran, I think I like that even better than if any one of them gets the MVP.
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted September 4, 2007 Posted September 4, 2007 It's nice that Beltran has played himself into the conversation.
Guest sharpie Guests Posted September 4, 2007 Posted September 4, 2007 ]Andre Dawson won MVP for the last place Cubs. As Branch Rickey would say, "we can finish last without you, too".Yabbut that year there weren't other candidates having the year Dawson had. Second division players have a chance only if there are no standouts among the top clubs, not the case this year.
Guest attgig Guests Posted September 4, 2007 Posted September 4, 2007 http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=stark_jayson&id=3002888espn's talkin about mvps too...David WrightLeads the league in: No major categoriesTop five in: Runs, runs created per 27 outsScoring position: 39 for 126, .310 (62 RBIs in 166 RISP plate appearances)Jose Reyes seemed to be anointed early as the Mets' designated MVP candidate. But we think Wright has passed his favorite shortstop, with a season that gets better as it rolls along. Sheez, this man has a .477 on-base percentage (best in the big leagues) and .366 batting average since the All-Star break, with 44 runs scored (second only to Jimmy Rollins) and a .593 slugging percentage (better than A-Rod, Magglio or Prince Fielder). Wright also has a shot to be a 30-homer, 30-steal, 100-run, 100-RBI, .300-hitting on-base machine. And Baseball Prospectus ranks him atop every player on an NL contender (and behind only Hanley Ramirez) in VORP. So as much fun as Reyes can be on any given trip around the bases, it's the guy playing next to him who is really the Mets' MVP.
Valadius Old-Timey Member Posted September 4, 2007 Posted September 4, 2007 Here's to hoping we cruise through September with Wright keying the offense, the Phillies go into a tailspin, Utley goes into a month-long slump, and Utley, Rollins, and Howard split the Phillies vote. Then I think David Wright wins the MVP. But September is usually the most important month for the MVP and other end-of-year awards (see Piazza, Mike) and players usually win or lose the award during the final month.
HahnSolo Old-Timey Member Posted September 4, 2007 Posted September 4, 2007 Much like Reyes seemed overlooked in last year's MVP vote, I think Rollins will be overlooked this year. He should be right up there in the discussion, stupid offseason comments or not.
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted September 4, 2007 Posted September 4, 2007 An MVP for David Wright would be great, but I'd prefer to see any one of 25 guys on the Mets win the World Series MVP award this year.
Vic Sage Old-Timey Member Posted September 11, 2007 Posted September 11, 2007 as of 9/11/07 --According to ROI (Ralph's Offensive Indicator = RC x OPS), the current top 5 in the NL are:Fielder = 116.8Wright = 115Holliday = 114H.Ramirez = 113.9Pujols = 110.6If Cubs win NL central (eliminating Cards and Brews), and Mr Wright keeps this up, David has a legit claim on the bling.[u:fb130597a1]The rest of the top 10:[/u:fb130597a1]C.Jones = 106.2Utley = 104.1M.Cabrera = 104.1Rollins = 102.1Bonds = 101.6Where can i find current Win Shares?
Guest attgig Guests Posted September 11, 2007 Posted September 11, 2007 Vic Sage wrote:as of 9/11/07 --According to ROI (Ralph's Offensive Indicator = RC x OPS), the current top 5 in the NL are:Fielder = 116.8Wright = 115Holliday = 114H.Ramirez = 113.9Pujols = 110.6If Cubs win NL central (eliminating Cards and Brews), and Mr Wright keeps this up, David has a legit claim on the bling.The rest of the top 10:C.Jones = 106.2Utley = 104.1M.Cabrera = 104.1Rollins = 102.1Bonds = 101.6Where can i find current Win Shares? hard ball times
Valadius Old-Timey Member Posted September 11, 2007 Posted September 11, 2007 Win Shares through 9/8/07:Wright, NYM - 30Byrnes, ARZ - 29Pujols, STL - 28Martin, LAD - 25Beltran, NYM - 24Ramirez, FLA - 24Cabrera, FLA - 24Fielder, MIL - 24Gonzalez, SDP - 23Utley, PHI - 23Reyes, NYM - 23Rollins, PHI - 23Lee, HOU - 22Holliday, COL - 22
Vic Sage Old-Timey Member Posted September 11, 2007 Posted September 11, 2007 and Wright is 2nd to H.Ramirez in VORP
Elster88 Old-Timey Member Posted September 11, 2007 Posted September 11, 2007 Keef says 40 times reaching base in his past 80 plate appearances.
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