Told ya

[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

Dodger lefty Beimel a barroom casualty


The world saw the Dodgers lose Game 1 of their NL division series against the Mets on Wednesday at Shea Stadium. In truth, they actually might have lost it in a Manhattan bar late Monday night.
Joe Beimel, Los Angeles' best lefthanded reliever, had to be left off the team's roster for this round of the playoffs after reporting for Tuesday's workouts with a gash in his left hand that required 10 stitches. Manager Grady Little said yesterday that Beimel - and not Brad Penny - would have been pitching in the critical seventh inning when the Mets scored twice to snap a 4-4 tie in the 6-5 win.

Beimel told the Dodgers that he had cut the hand on a broken glass in his hotel room. Actually, it appears Beimel suffered the injury on broken glass in a New York bar the night before, according to a report in yesterday's Los Angeles Times that the Daily News confirmed with one Dodger.

"It's the real story," said the Dodger, who requested anonymity to avoid clubhouse animosity.

"We just go by what the players told us and that's all we know," Little said. "The kid told us that the accident happened in his room. It happened. The bottom line is that he's not available in this series."

Little replaced Beimel on the playoff roster with righthander Chad Billinglsley. It left him with only one southpaw - converted starter Mark Hendrickson - in the bullpen. Hendrickson pitched a scoreless sixth last night.

[metirish]

You were on the money Dickshot,apparently he tried to catch the glass as it was falling of the bar....don't know that I believe that .

[Willets Point]

One day a manager will leave a pitcher like this on the roster to take advantage of his devestating bloodball sinker.

[Centerfield]

If the Mets are fortunate enough to move on, we need a volunteer to go start a fight with Chris Carpenter the night before Game 1.

Too bad we don't have a Wifey Watch for opponents. That could make it a bit easier...

[Guest Edgy DC]

You're, like, scary right.

In the wake of Pedro's "successful" surgery, I want to see the first sports surgeon who comes out of OR and releases a statement that the surgery was a disaster.

[metirish]

Hey maybe Pedro gets those extra mph back that he lost over the last few years...

[MFS62]

metirish wrote: Hey maybe Pedro gets those extra mph back that he lost over the last few years...

That has reportedly happened a lot after rotator cuff surgery.

Later

[Guest Edgy DC]

Centerfield wrote: If the Mets are fortunate enough to move on, we need a volunteer to go start a fight with Chris Carpenter the night before Game 1. Too bad we don't have a Wifey Watch for opponents. That could make it a bit easier...

Alyson Carpenter. She's a vegan. No photos yet.

[Guest Edgy DC]

MFS62 wrote: ="metirish"]Hey maybe Pedro gets those extra mph back that he lost over the last few years... That has reportedly happened a lot after rotator cuff surgery. Later

Are there any examples?

[Guest Edgy DC]

Alyson "I Know This World is Killing You" Carpenter in black and flipflops.

[Guest cooby]

now what

[soupcan]

That Edgy's view from his sniper position...

[Guest Edgy DC]

cooby wrote: now what

Centerfield hits on her and Chris breaks his pitching hand against Centerfield's iron jaw, of course.

It's so easy, it's stupid.

[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

cooby wrote: now what

LoDuca: Hey, Cris, you're wife's a real heifer for a vegan. Mind if I date your daughter?

[MFS62]

Edgy DC wrote: ="MFS62"] ="metirish"]Hey maybe Pedro gets those extra mph back that he lost over the last few years... That has reportedly happened a lot after rotator cuff surgery. Later Are there any examples?

One immediately comes to mind.
When the Mets signed Jae Seo, he threw a 91-92 MPH fastball. After his surgery, I read stories that his fastball was clocked at 94 MPH. And the article indicated that it was not uncommon. It went on to say that before the injury, the pain caused by the deteriorating cuff may have kept the pitcher from "letting it all hang out". After surgery, with the pain gone, they were able to do it. The new, freer motion obviously helped, too. They mentioned a few other pitchers, but I have forgotten who they were.

Later

[Guest ABG]

"Really? How'd you cut your hand?"
"You're not talking to the paperboy either, Josh."

[Guest cooby]

Gad, look at how chipped up that over hang is

[Frayed Knot]

Most of those stories about pitchers gaining velocity after surgery are:

a) of questionable accuracy

after TJ-like ligament replacement jobs, not rotator cuff surgery

c) not occuring with hurlers in their mid-30s

Your hope for Pedro, at this point, is to get him back by July of next year pitching something like he was capable at the beginning of this year.

[soupcan]

MFS62 wrote: One immediately comes to mind. When the Mets signed Jae Seo, he threw a 91-92 MPH fastball. After his surgery, I read stories that his fastball was clocked at 94 MPH. And the article indicated that it was not uncommon. It went on to say that before the injury, the pain caused by the deteriorating cuff may have kept the pitcher from "letting it all hang out". After surgery, with the pain gone, they were able to do it. The new, freer motion obviously helped, too. They mentioned a few other pitchers, but I have forgotten who they were.

I had always thought Seo had elbow surgery.

[Guest Edgy DC]

"Here, Son, let me put you up and my shoulders and we'll see if you can touch the jagged rusty concrete rods. That's it, try and loosen the rubble."

[Frayed Knot]

Also, I don't remember the Seo story as anything like that.

The way I remember things, it that he lost velocity following his surgery (which I'm not sure was RC anyway). And, because he was mostly a two-pitch (fastball/change) pitcher to begin with, the reduced velocity between the two is what changed him from a hot prospect to a hopeful maybe.

[Guest Edgy DC]

I'm pretty sure Seo

• had TJ surgery, and


• lost velocity

[Guest cooby]

Anyway, what DO people fight about in bars?

[soupcan]

Who's gonna buy cooby a drink.

[Guest cooby]

You buy me one, and I'll rassle ya

[MFS62]

Edgy DC wrote: I'm pretty sure Seo had TJ surgery, and lost velocity

That "new" 94 MPH figure after his surgery stuck in my mind.
But you could be right. It could have been TJ surgery.
If it was, never mind.

Later

[soupcan]

="MFS62"]...never mind.

[Guest Hillbilly]

It's too funny that Dickshot called this.

[DocTee]

IIRC, A's starter Tim Hudson was injured in a Boston fracas before a playoff start a few years back. I think he injured his hip. Does anyone else recall this?

[stevejrogers]

DocTee wrote: IIRC, A's starter Tim Hudson was injured in a Boston fracas before a playoff start a few years back. I think he injured his hip. Does anyone else recall this?

Yes! He managed to pitch though, not well but he did go out there.