Mets get Shawn Green

[metirish]

So should Milledge learn to play LF now?

Somew numbers on Green

]Since July 20, Green is batting .194, and his average has decreased rapidly since he hit .374 in May. He batted .265 in June, .250 in July and .208 in August

Lets hope the change will do him good.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/23/sports/baseball/23mets.html?_r=1&ref=sports&oref=slogin

[seawolf17]

metirish wrote: So should Milledge learn to play LF now?

Or he should start trying on other team's jerseys,

[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

I know thet were pretty heavy with the denials, but I suppose this spotlights Cliff's injury and the team's hedging whether he can really come back from it all right, and perform into October.

Achilles tendonitis can take months to go away, and Cliff on his other foot eventually required surgery. So in that sense I see this as a necessary manuver and we'll deal with the aftermath in November.

[metirish]

Some more numbers on the trade.

] In exchange for Green, the Mets sent the minor-league left-hander Evan MacLane to the Diamondbacks. The Mets will also receive $6.3 million to offset the $13.25 million Green is owed over the rest of his contract. The Mets will pay Green $1.75 million for the remainder of this season, and he is scheduled to receive $9.5 million next season with a $10 million club option for 2008 or a $2 million buyout.

[Guest KC]

I was hoping for another black player to replace Cliff ... sheesh

[MFS62]

KC wrote: I was hoping for another black player to replace Cliff ... sheesh

Wassamatta'. You don't like Green ones?

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[seawolf17]

KC wrote: I was hoping for another black player to replace Cliff ... sheesh

It's just because Omar is mindlessly pandering to the white Jewish population of New York.

[Centerfield]

According to Jon Heyman, the Mets are still interested in Alou. Maybe Cliff is hurt more than we think.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/baseball/mlb/08/22/mets.green/index.html?section=si_mlb

[MFS62]

So, KC would prefer Omar pander to the Black Jewish population of New York?

LOL!

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[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

Heyman's way behind the times. The Internet reported the Mets had Alou two years ago.

[MFS62]

CF, I posted this yesterday.

http://cybermessageboard.ehost.com/getalife/viewtopic.php?t=4397

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[Guest Rotblatt]

Green's really been struggling since the All-Star Break, hardly hitting for any power. Hopefully the change will do him good, but I'm not counting on him being any better than Chavez.

Still, he definitely upgrades our bench and I'm not sold on MacLane, so I don't mind this deal.

[Centerfield]

Any word on whether Green will be in uniform tonight?

[Benjamin Grimm]

I think he's expected on Thursday.

[Guest Edgy DC]

What crap.

Back when I was a kid, Joel Youngboold would start an afternoon game, get traded, and play in a night game for his new team.

OK, so it's never happened since, but back when I was a kid, you could expect a man to be a man and a new employee to be punctual. At least once, you could.

[Centerfield]

That does seem like it's a little late. Arizona isn't that far away.

[metirish]

I think Green was in San Fran when he got the news,you'd think Wilpon would send his private jet to get him.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Isn't a player allowed something like 72 hours to report after a trade?

The eager ones arrive quickly. The reluctant ones take 72 hours.

Maybe Shawn had to stop at home to water his plants or something.

[Vic Sage]

Have there been any other Jewish Mets (besides Shamsky)?

Shamsky
Green
?

[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

Mookie Wilstein

[Guest ScarletKnight41]

Vic Sage wrote: Have there been any other Jewish Mets (besides Shamsky)? Shamsky Green ?

Greg says there have been six Jewish Mets -

]For the record, there have been six Jewish Mets to date. Joe Ginsberg was the first. Art Shamsky was the best. Dave Roberts, 'til now, was the last. They are joined by Norm Sherry, Greg Goossen and Elliott Maddox.

[Benjamin Grimm]

What about Elio Chacon?

[Guest ScarletKnight41]

Yancy Street Gang wrote: What about Elio Chacon?

http://www.jewishmajorleaguers.org doesn't list him.

[stevejrogers]

ScarletKnight41 wrote: ="Yancy Street Gang"]What about Elio Chacon? http://www.jewishmajorleaguers.org doesn't list him.

That was based on UMDB Chacon memories of people thinking Chacon's name was Cohen

http://www.leaptoad.com/mets/profile.php?PlayerCode=0038&tabno=7

]david December 24, 2002 My then 70-something grandmother used to listen to Mets games on the radio and thought that the announcers were talking about Eliosha Cohen - nice Jewish boy from the island(s)

]jmb February 10, 2005 Back in the Mets initial season my late father told me the Mets had a Jewish player by the name of Cohen. I went to check out their roster to locate a Cohen. I came back and asked him what is first name was. He told me Eliosha, Eliosha Cohen!

[Guest ScarletKnight41]

Ah - gotcha.

I figured there was something behind the question, but I didn't remember the anecdote.

[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

whoosh

[Guest KC]

I still say hoping a team gets a player, or being happy because the player is
here based on race, religion, and/or ethnicity is nonsense.

Play ball.

[duan]

I know Green's looking a little past it the last 3 months, but before that on NO other season has he not been more productive then Nady has this season.

Even with the relative power outage that he's had since 2003 his eqa's have been .287, 279, .280 whereas Nady's been .274.

I'm also looking at a lineup that potentially has
Reyes (SW)
LoDuca (RH))
Beltran (SW)
Delgado (LH)
Wright (RH)
Floyd (LH)
Valentin (SW)
Green (LH)

in the playoffs - when Shawn Green's your number 8 hitter you're in good shape with power and 'reasonable' discipline throughout the lineup.

You'll also chew through bullpens.

[Guest Iubitul]

KC wrote: I still say hoping a team gets a player, or being happy because the player is here based on race, religion, and/or ethnicity is nonsense. Play ball.

Thank you.

I've been looking for the right way to say this the last few days - thanks for putting it better than I could.

[MFS62]

Yep, KC nailed it.
That kind of stuff makes for nice "human interest" stories, but it shouldn't matter once the player gets between the foul lines.

As long as the player contributes to winning, it shouldn't matter if he throws goat entrails during a full moon. And if he's that good, and a druid, I'd even plant him a tree.

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