Yanx v Sawx -- Act ... whatever

[Guest Hillbilly]

It's official! I hat them both. Go Tigers! Go Pale Hose! Go Twins!

[Frayed Knot]

]Of course Offense is the last thing wrong with the Red Sox, even tho Coco suxxxxx.

Nice to see that after scoring about a million runs over the weekend (but giving up a billion) they pick today to get shut down by Cory Freakin Lidle and crew during their one and only good pitching performance.

The difference between Coco & Damon has been massive this week as well. Part of the overall diff was because Coco got hurt opening week but even since then he's got a .320-ish OBP and - despite his stunning, game-saving catch against Wright - there have been a ton of hits this week which fell justoutofthereach of a running/leaping/lunging Crisp.

[Guest Rotblatt]

U-G-L-Y. I'm embarassed for RS nation.

Their pitching is an insane mess right now and I don't even know where you begin to fix it. Probably with firing your pitching coach. Not that that will do anything unless they have some kind of genius in the wings, but at least it's a start . . .

Fuck the Yankees. And like Hillbilly says, fuck the Red Sox too.

Twins all the way to the World Series, baby. If they scrap out the WC berth, they're going to tear through the playoffs with a healthy Liriano, Santana & Radke.

Sure, they'll be more dangerous for us than Chicago or Detroit, but oh what a series that would be . . .

[Centerfield]

Wow, Farnsworth in for the 9th instead of Rivera. Torre leaving the door just slightly ajar on the Sox.

[Centerfield]

Never mind. Red Sox stub their toe and slam it shut.

[Willets Point]

Willets Point wrote: Yankees will sweep en route to ring #27.

I'm the Nostradomus of Suck. I can accurately predict all the things I don't want to happen.

[Willets Point]

Imagine how insufferable they'll be win the Yankees win the WS.

[Gwreck]

Willets Point wrote: Imagine how insufferable they'll be win the Yankees win the WS.

I'm with Dickshot on this. Quit being a defeatist loooser.

[Guest ScarletKnight41]

That's not what Willets is doing. He's playing the negative karma.

[stevejrogers]

ScarletKnight41 wrote: That's not what Willets is doing. He's playing the negative karma.

It worked for me but I got the same response with the "Congratulations 2006 NL East Champs posts"

Think we should leave the Karma to Earl Hickey!

[stevejrogers]

Hillbilly wrote: It's official! I hat them both. Go Tigers! Go Pale Hose! Go Twins!

I agree here. The Sox seem to be caught up in some sort of Mets style of trying to win while rebuilding, heard Shaugnessey use the old argument NY mediots say about NY teams "You can't rebuild here!"

I'm now rooting for the Blue Jays and O's, if not to surge in September (well Jays are 4 back of the Sox and the O's, uh not so much) and end the Yanks-Sox run of 1-2 every year since 1998, but in 2007 be the two team race in the AL Least

[Guest Edgy DC]

I'm catching the ninth of the 11-10 Oakland-Toronto game. Oakland came back from an 8-0 hole and John Gibbons was. not. happy.

TORONTO (AP) -Blue Jays manager John Gibbons wound up with a bloody nose after tangling with Toronto pitcher Ted Lilly near the dugout during Monday night's game against Oakland.

It was not known whether any punches were thrown.

Lilly was pulled in the third inning, when the Athletics scored seven runs to close to 8-7. Gibbons chewed out the pitcher, who refused to give him the ball.

When Lilly left the mound for the locker room, Gibbons followed him. A team trainer and a number of players then ran down the stairs of the tunnel leading to the clubhouse.

Cameramen near the dugout saw Gibbons push Lilly first. A television camera later showed Gibbons with a bloody nose.

Gibbons challenged Shea Hillenbrand to a fight in July after the infielder wrote on the clubhouse bulletin board that the "ship was sinking.'' The Blue Jays designated Hillenbrand for assignment during the game and later traded him to San Francisco.

[stevejrogers]

Maybe Gibbons is pissed he missed out on at least being discussed for an invitation to the 1986 reunion!

[Zvon]

Gibbons must think fightin with your players is one of a managers responsibilities.
When Hillenbrand had that run in with Gibbons he was painted as the problem.
Now this incedent kind of makes you wonder.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Where's the call to acquire Ted Lilly?

[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

I don't doubt for a second that Shea Hillenbrand and Ted Lilly are both asstards. But when a manager is fighting any two of his guys within a month, it's already too late to fire him.

The Jays might be more disappointing than the Red Sox in the East.

[MFS62]

Lilly has been in the majors for a while, and I remember he had the same problem (not holding a lead and burning the bullpen) when he first came up. I'm sure pitching coaches have tried everything to correct whatever is the problem. Maybe a good ol' butt kicking will work.

Later

[Centerfield]

Following protocol, the Rags put Jeter on the cover since the MFY's won (even though he had no role in yesterday's game). A-Rod pictures in reserve for the next MFY loss.

[Frayed Knot]

The canonization of Jeter went into overdrive mode yesterday.

On both radio and TV I heard that he put a headlock on the MVP race on account of this series as if he were the sole reason for the sweep.
Yeah, he had a couple of big hits over the weekend, but y'know who else did? .... EVERYONE!!!!
Giambi homered twice and knocked in 4 in the game 4 extra-inning win (including the game-winner) yet Jeter was being lauded for his "clutch bloop". Jeter had a bases-clearing 2B which helped break open a game ... and so did Posada ... and so did ARod.
Meanwhile, Abreu was on base around 75% of the time and he and Damon were, without a doubt, the best offensive players out there.

But, of course, none of the others has the same pre-written story about them just waiting for an excuse to run it.

[Centerfield]

MVP? Jeter isn't even the best shortstop in the league. Jeter is at .336, 10 HR, 76 RBI (OPS .882). Tejada is at .330, 20 HR's, and 86 RBI (OPS .906).

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

Tejada's not a winner, though.

[Centerfield]

That must be why he doesn't have a cologne.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Bull. If Jeter doesn't win, it's anti-Yankee bias, and that's all there is to it.

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

Centerfield wrote: That must be why he doesn't have a cologne.

I bet he doesn't even have toilet water!

[MFS62]

Funny stuff.
If you folks are going to continue this way, please let me know so I can take my sarcasm tolerance pills.

Later

[metsmarathon]

Centerfield wrote: MVP? Jeter isn't even the best shortstop in the league. Jeter is at .336, 10 HR, 76 RBI (OPS .882). Tejada is at .330, 20 HR's, and 86 RBI (OPS .906).

according to baseballprospectus...
tejada's VORP is 57.0
jeter's is at 56.7, and is a lot higher than i expected.

reyes is at 42.7, btw, 4th among shortstops (guillen 48.1)

and beltran sits above them all, with a clean 60.

[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

Yer eyes will pop when you see Oliver Perez with a 58 VORP in 2004.

[Willets Point]

What's a VORP?

[metirish]

It's explained here.....

http://www.stathead.com/bbeng/woolner/vorpdescnew.htm

[Willets Point]

So is a 58 VORP good?