MFS62 Old-Timey Member Posted March 1, 2025 Posted March 1, 2025 According to Reuters, the president has said he will pardon Pete Rose.https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-says-pardon-baseball-great-062326184.htmlhttps://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-says-pardon-baseball-great-062326184.htmlWould you?Later
Centerfield Old-Timey Member Posted March 1, 2025 Posted March 1, 2025 Pete Rose raped 14 year old girls. He admitted to it. His only defense was that he thought they were 16. How is there any fucking debate about Pete Rose.
kcmets Old-Timey Member Posted March 1, 2025 Posted March 1, 2025 On Monday, he'll Twat that OJ was framed and if he was presidentthe whole Bronco chase wouldn't have lasted more than a minute.Insane times, glad I don't have grandchildren...
AMonkey Old-Timey Member Posted March 1, 2025 Posted March 1, 2025 #distraction#StandWithUkraine#ProtectTranspeople#FireTheFascists
ashie62 Old-Timey Member Posted March 1, 2025 Posted March 1, 2025 Rose was never convicted of anything was he?Nothing to pardon
MFS62 Old-Timey Member Posted March 1, 2025 Author Posted March 1, 2025 =ashie62 post_id=186322 time=1740861555 user_id=90]Rose was never convicted of anything was he?Nothing to pardon
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted March 1, 2025 Posted March 1, 2025 Yes. Rose's baseball crimes and actual crimes are two separate categories.Trump can't do anything about what baseball does with Pete.But he does seem determined to excuse the tax evasion thing because ... well this stuff just writes itself doesn't it?
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted March 1, 2025 Posted March 1, 2025 =Centerfield post_id=186304 time=1740837287 user_id=65]How is there any fucking debate about Pete Rose.
Cowtipper Old-Timey Member Posted March 1, 2025 Posted March 1, 2025 =AMonkey post_id=186312 time=1740841334 user_id=208]#distraction#StandWithUkraine#ProtectTranspeople#FireTheFascists
Bob Alpacadaca Old-Timey Member Posted March 1, 2025 Posted March 1, 2025 His jail time, if I remember, was tied to not reporting revenue from memorabilia and autograph sales, not connected to his gambling ban. And I think a number of former stars were caught doing that, though I don't know if they went to jail. So I don't see the point.
Channel9 Old-Timey Member Posted March 1, 2025 Posted March 1, 2025 I think Trump somehow thinks that pardoning Pete Rose clears Rose's path to the HoF.It doesn't of course, but who the fuck knows these days?I'm also pretty confused as to why Pete Rose is even a concern to anyone anymore.
Centerfield Old-Timey Member Posted March 1, 2025 Posted March 1, 2025 Edgy MD wrote:=Centerfield post_id=186304 time=1740837287 user_id=65]How is there any fucking debate about Pete Rose.His voters have a stake in Pete Rose and his reputation. Two generations of white guys pointed at him as a model for their sons.He's the worst president imaginable, but he's as talented a political animal as we have ever seen, and he never stops running.Besides, in his book, not paying taxes is a virtue, not a crime.
Fman99 Old-Timey Member Posted March 1, 2025 Posted March 1, 2025 I would pardon him for his haircut. That's about all
batmagadanleadoff Old-Timey Member Posted March 1, 2025 Posted March 1, 2025 Edgy MD wrote:=Centerfield post_id=186304 time=1740837287 user_id=65]How is there any fucking debate about Pete Rose.His voters have a stake in Pete Rose and his reputation. Two generations of white guys pointed at him as a model for their sons.He's the worst president imaginable, but he's as talented a political animal as we have ever seen, and he never stops running.Besides, in his book, not paying taxes is a virtue, not a crime.I don't understand why we are talking about tax evasion or gambling or anything else when THE GUY IS A FUCKING PEDOPHILE.
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted March 1, 2025 Posted March 1, 2025 Edgy MD wrote:=Centerfield post_id=186304 time=1740837287 user_id=65]How is there any fucking debate about Pete Rose.His voters have a stake in Pete Rose and his reputation. Two generations of white guys pointed at him as a model for their sons.He's the worst president imaginable, but he's as talented a political animal as we have ever seen, and he never stops running.Besides, in his book, not paying taxes is a virtue, not a crime.I don't understand why we are talking about tax evasion or gambling or anything else when THE GUY IS A FUCKING PEDOPHILE.
Channel9 Old-Timey Member Posted March 2, 2025 Posted March 2, 2025 Okay, now I get it.Rose's family is petitioning MLB to get him posthumously removed from the ineligible list in hopes that that would be the first step to HoF enshrinement. A pardon from the White House doesn't hurt.Since nothing matters anymore I guess that tracks.https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6169101/2025/03/01/pete-rose-rob-manfred-mlb-ineligible-list/?source=user_shared_article https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6169101/2025/03/01/pete-rose-rob-manfred-mlb-ineligible-list/?source=user_shared_article
kcmets Old-Timey Member Posted March 3, 2025 Posted March 3, 2025 =Fman99 post_id=186342 time=1740884830 user_id=86]I would pardon him for his haircut. That's about all
kcmets Old-Timey Member Posted March 3, 2025 Posted March 3, 2025 This is too funny, not sure if Amazon will allow an image usewithout upping my Prime rate but we shall see...https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/612mC-MWt1L._AC_SL1000_.jpg>
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted March 3, 2025 Posted March 3, 2025 I would pardon him for his haircut. That's about allMy mother would always chime in with "He's too old for that haircut" every time she'd see him on TV.
kcmets Old-Timey Member Posted March 3, 2025 Posted March 3, 2025 Who was the guy that also had an odd haircut, I think he was areliever (big time all-star), and kept it for years into retirement aswell? Name is on the tip of my tongue but it's not coming to me.Slow news day haha...
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted March 3, 2025 Posted March 3, 2025 Dennis Shmeckersley?[FIMG=300]https://d26horl2n8pviu.cloudfront.net/link_data_pictures/images/000/391/129/original/1200px-Dennis_Eckersley_2008__28crop_29.jpg?1556763847[/FIMG]
DocTee Old-Timey Member Posted March 3, 2025 Posted March 3, 2025 My brother and I once laughed uproariously when Phil Rizzuto said that "Dennis Eckersley needs a haircut, or a permanent." Not sure I had ever before, and never since, heard someone use the full word for a perm.
kcmets Old-Timey Member Posted March 3, 2025 Posted March 3, 2025 I should have known, baseball hairdos has a web page...https://www.ranker.com/list/worst-hairstyles-in-mlb-history/brandon-oliverhttps://www.ranker.com/list/worst-hairstyles-in-mlb-history/brandon-oliver
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted March 4, 2025 Posted March 4, 2025 “Commissioner Rob Manfried is considering a petition filed on Jan. 8 by Pete Rose's family to have Major League Baseball's all-time hit leader posthumously removed from baseball's ineligible list,” ESPN's Don Van Natta Jr. reported. “MLB sources acknowledged the commissioner met with Fawn Rose and (Rose's lawyer Jeffrey) Lenkov and that Manfred is now reviewing the petition to reinstate Rose.”
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted March 4, 2025 Posted March 4, 2025 Jeffrey Lenkov is a big-ticket Canadian-born Beverly Hills hotshot with his thumb in a lot of pies. Employment law (representing employers), NHL agent, insurance risk, TV producer, etc. Lenkov developed the show that got Pete Rose on the air as an analyst, so the rehabilitation of Rose and his brand in the public eye has been a long-time interest for him.
Bob Alpacadaca Old-Timey Member Posted March 4, 2025 Posted March 4, 2025 It should be an easy decision for Manfred.Making Rose eligible for the Hall of Fame and putting him in the Hall of Fame are of course two different things. I would imagine making him eligible sends him to the writers' ballot, and I suspect they'd let him linger for 10 years like ARod, Manny, Sosa, and the rest. It would be more than a decade before one of the veterans committees even had a chance to consider him.
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted March 4, 2025 Posted March 4, 2025 Removing him from the permanently ineligible list doesn't even necessarily have to make him eligible for the Hall of Fame.That said, it likely would, as I imagine there is no rehabilitation of his status that matters to his advocates apart from the Hall of Fame.
roger_that Old-Timey Member Posted March 4, 2025 Posted March 4, 2025 I wonder if people fully realize the effect of inducting him into the HoF, even long after his death, and the death of each of us, for several generations to come. It is to state "It's okay to gamble--eventually, baseball forgives the sternest of its edicts and its principles. If you get caught, which you may or may not, and if you're given the harshest of punishments, which you may or may not, after a time people will stop caring, or even knowing, of your misdeeds, so gamble away. Throw games. Sell out your teammates, do what you need to do, or think you need to do. Do anything, commit any crime, betray anyone's trust, lie, cheat, steal, rape, rob, murder with wild abandon--all will be forgiven, and you will be honored as if you'd never done anything wrong, because in a very real sense, in the eyes of future generations, you haven't. You will be absolved of every foul deed or thought you ever had."Which is why my position on Rose is five-fold: Never, never, never, never, never.
metirish Old-Timey Member Posted March 5, 2025 Posted March 5, 2025 Edgy MD wrote:Removing him from the permanently ineligible list doesn't even necessarily have to make him eligible for the Hall of Fame.That said, it likely would, as I imagine there is no rehabilitation of his status that matters to his advocates apart from the Hall of Fame.I fear it's a slippery slope ,Manfred will fall in line with Trump
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