Kodai Senga "Arm Fatigue"

[ashie62]

Verlander started late

[The Hot Corner]

Edgy MD wrote: It ain't https://www.covers.com/sport/baseball/mlb/injuriesunique to the Mets. The Dodgers had an offseason to die for, and still, they've already got five starting pitchers out for extended periods.

2021 - DeGrom gets off to a historically great season through 15 starts, only to be shut down for the season following July 7th start. Noah Syndergaard, recovering from Tommy John surgery misses the season (pitching 2 meaningless innings at the end of the season).

2022 - Jacob DeGrom makes his season debut on August 2nd. Max Scherzer misses 6 weeks early in the season.

2023 - Edwin Diaz misses the season due to knee injury suffered in the WBC. Justin Verlander misses the first month of the season.

2024 - Kodai Senga experiences arm fatigue and is expected to miss the first month of the season (at best).



I know that other teams lose key, front line pitchers as well. Some of them may do so on a regular basis, but I simply don't notice due to my fixation on the Mets. The Mets, however, definitely appear to lose front line pitchers on a year in year out basis.

[Lefty Specialist]

Problem is, the Mets had a #1 in Senga, a #3 in Quintana, and a bunch of #5's. They're not going to weather this well.

[Edgy MD]

I don't think of these ranks as imprinted on these guys as such. The terms only really are relevant relative to one another. If Mark Clark is the top guy on your staff, he's a #1. If he gets hurt, Pete Harnish is a #1.



Similarly, if Dwight Gooden is your best pitcher, then David Cone is your #2, even if he's outpitching 95% or more of everybody else.



We can guess what we're going to get from Quintana, but right now it's unknowable. I certainly don't think that everybody the Mets throw besides Quintana will aggregate to a profile equivalent to the bottom 20% of starters in the league, which is seemingly what calling everybody else a #5 suggests.

[G-Fafif]

Kodai Senga transferred to the 60-day IL to accommodate the addition of callup Tyler Jay to the big club (with Dedniel Nuñez optioned to Syracuse). Won't be eligible for activation until May 27

[Benjamin Grimm]

But he can do minor league rehab before that, correct?

[MFS62]

Kodai Senga transferred to the 60-day IL to accommodate the addition of callup Tyler Jay to the big club

Who?

That name isn't in Baseball-reference.

Oh, this guy:

https://metsmerizedonline.com/mets-calling-up-lefty-tyler-jay/https://metsmerizedonline.com/mets-calling-up-lefty-tyler-jay/

Later

[stevejrogers]

Edgy MD wrote: I don't think of these ranks as imprinted on these guys as such. The terms only really are relevant relative to one another. If Mark Clark is the top guy on your staff, he's a #1. If he gets hurt, Pete Harnish is a #1. Similarly, if Dwight Gooden is your best pitcher, then David Cone is your #2, even if he's outpitching 95% or more of everybody else. We can guess what we're going to get from Quintana, but right now it's unknowable. I certainly don't think that everybody the Mets throw besides Quintana will aggregate to a profile equivalent to the bottom 20% of starters in the league, which is seemingly what calling everybody else a #5 suggests.

Relevant in terms of cash earned, as well as accomplishments and accolades.

[Edgy MD]

I don't know. Your best starting pitcher is your #1 pitcher, even if he's a rookie, earning a rookie's salary, with no accolades, perhaps named deGrom.



OE: I'm not sure what you actually mean, as the verb and the subject in your post are implied, so I apologize if I'm misreading.

[Frayed Knot]

I remember some years ago article attempting to define what made a #1 pitcher, a #2, etc. It was back in the '80s when the Mets

had a top staff and the idea was see which slot each starter on a team best fit and then add those numbers up to determine whose

staff was tops, lowest number wins.

There's always going to be a decent amount of subjectivity to that kind of thing but it was an OK way of ranking entire staffs

assuming that the initial analysis was correct enough.

[nymr83]

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Kodai Senga transferred to the 60-day IL to accommodate the addition of callup Tyler Jay to the big club (with Dedniel Nuñez optioned to Syracuse). Won't be eligible for activation until May 27

[ashie62]

Hoping for the best for Kodai and the Mets



Maybe he'll be back for a playoff push



LGM

[Cowtipper]

"Kodai Senga (shoulder) to face hitters next week



Kodai Senga (shoulder) is scheduled to face hitters on Monday in a live batting practice session.

Advice: Senga remains unlikely to make his season debut until late May, at the earliest, but this latest development represents a massive step forward in his rehabilitation process from a shoulder injury that sent him to the injured list back in spring training."



--Rotoworld via Yahoo

[metirish]

Um, what's going on here ?

[MFS62]

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Um, what's going on here ?

[metirish]

Puma reports that Senga is dealing with triceps tightness, didn't throw a bullpen yesterday, Mets are hopeful that will happen by the end of the week

[ashie62]

All star break baby

[metirish]

Shut down for 3-5 days due to triceps inflammation, as confirmed with an MRI , got a cortisone shot , DiComo

[G-Fafif]

[metirish]

Greg, how did you embed that?

[ashie62]

Again, All Star break

[G-Fafif]

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Greg, how did you embed that?

[metirish]

Interesting, that stopped working for me several days ago, I deleted all up to and including ? , that doesn't work now

[G-Fafif]

Interesting, that stopped working for me several days ago, I deleted all up to and including ? , that doesn't work now

In the case of this:

It should be this:



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except as one row

[The Hot Corner]

It seems that every time there is an encouraging report regarding Senga's progress, he throws a bullpen session or live BP and the next day there is some little twinge or discomfort which further delays his rehab. The Senga injury saga is starting to feel a lot like the numerous DeGrom ones that we went through (and Texas still is) with DeGrom.

[Radar]

As good as he looked I'm beginning to really worry about him physically.

[metirish]

[ashie62]

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Again, All Star break

[Johnny Lunchbucket]

I always said Met fans overrated Senga. If you take away his best season the guy sucks.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Senga is scheduled to make a rehab start today for Brooklyn.