If deGrom still deserves his own thread, well then this is it.

[smg58]

A Boy Named Seo wrote: I'm sure Texas had nervousness baked into the recipe. So far, it's been exactly what everybody would've expected. DeGrom is lights out when he is on a mound but he's not there as often as anybody would like.

Absolutely this. Our willingness (both the Mets and the fans) to let him go had nothing to do with how we thought he'd pitch when healthy.

[kcmets]

Does Jacob have a no-clause or a 'list' of teams he can't be traded to? I

say we make a move for him in July and he can come be hurt again for us!

[batmagadanleadoff]

Good read. Even better article title.



The Ferrari That Is Jacob deGrom Is Once Again in the Shop



https://blogs.fangraphs.com/the-ferrari-that-is-jacob-degrom-is-once-again-in-the-shop/https://blogs.fangraphs.com/the-ferrari-that-is-jacob-degrom-is-once-again-in-the-shop/



Some key takeaways:



... deGrom is pretty good when healthy. Extremely so. He's a starter that pitches like those untouchable relievers that can air it out on every pitch, knowing they're not gonna pitch to more than a handful of batters. And deGrom has the freaky dominating stats to prove it.



... pitchers who are diagnosed with the latest injury that's sidelined deGrom typically miss close to two months of action. There's a decent chance that deGrom won't pitch at all in the month of May.



... his Hall of Fame case is dwindling, not improving.

[Edgy MD]

It's only so long before he doesn't return from the shop right, experience would suggest.



Maybe his best remaining path to the Hall of Fame is to become a closer.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Edgy MD wrote: Maybe his best remaining path to the Hall of Fame is to become a closer.

Holy moley! You may be on to something!

[Benjamin Grimm]

Edgy MD wrote: It's only so long before he doesn't return from the shop right, experience would suggest.

Perhaps he should try returning from the ShopRite.

[MFS62]

There are two players who seem to show up on the IL every year.

I wonder who will miss more games this year, DeGrom or Giancarlo Stanton.



Later

[batmagadanleadoff]

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... his Hall of Fame case is dwindling, not improving.

Edited May 2, 2023 by Guest

[batmagadanleadoff]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: The only Met I can think of who won a Rookie-of-the-Year award and two Cy Youngs is Tom Seaver, and he certainly didn't miss the Hall of Fame. Your second guy is clearly Dwight Gooden. But I have no idea who the first one is.

I edited my post. I thought Saberhagen won the ROY. He didn't.

[Edgy MD]

I guess we mean Saberhagen and Santana ... and Gooden?

[batmagadanleadoff]

Edgy MD wrote: I guess we mean Saberhagen and Santana ... and Gooden?

Winner. Winner. Chicken dinner.

[A Boy Named Seo]

deGrom as a closer seems like a great idea, but I wonder if more frequent outings hurt him less/more/the same than every 4th or 5th day? I bet the Rangers don't wanna pay $37M for a closer either.



This passage in the article jumped at me.

Seven to 10 days might be enough to get a sense of where this situation is headed, but it's very possible deGrom will be out longer. Data from the Baseball Prospectus Four-Year Injury Map for 2020–22 shows that the average time missed by a pitcher with elbow inflammation is 60 days; more granular data from the site's Recovery Dashboard for 2016–22 shows an average of 54 days missed and a median of 36 days. In other words, we may not see him pitch in May.

Feel better, Jake. See ya in summer.

Edited May 2, 2023 by Guest

[nymr83]

I would concur that the size of his contract precludes him being the closer this year - those 30 innings he pitched still represent half a season for many relievers. The value is in trying to keep him healthy.

[Edgy MD]

Well, this will be the lowest salary of his contract.

[ashie62]

Jake is eligible to come off the IL on Sunday. There is reporting that has hit a "snag" and will not.



Like dejuva all over again

[metirish]

Another two to three weeks with elbow inflammation

[kcmets]

=kcmets post_id=123852 time=1682818405 user_id=53]
Elbow inflammation! Is that like unexplained arm discomfort.

[ashie62]

Yes, very familiar. I was reading Texas Rangers fan site. Regarding Jake it sounded like CPF west

[batmagadanleadoff]

I'm sure youse heard this one before: Sidelined Jacob deGrom threw a bullpen session yesterday and sez he feels great.

[metirish]

Oh he's turned a corner has he ?

[whippoorwill]

My fantasy update says still several weeks 🙄

[batmagadanleadoff]

Rangers manager Bruce Bochy sez Jacob deGrom could return in two or three weeks. Could. If so, when deGrom returns, he will have missed about two thirds of this season almost halfway into it.

[ashie62]

Then it will become "we hope to have him for the postseason"

[metirish]

No surprise

[metirish]

https://www.dallasnews.com/sports/rangers/2023/06/05/rangers-place-jacob-degrom-on-60-day-il-make-room-for-spencer-howard/https://www.dallasnews.com/sports/rangers/2023/06/05/rangers-place-jacob-degrom-on-60-day-il-make-room-for-spencer-howard/



Story

[nymr83]

The Mets dodged a bullet here. Good for them trusting their medicals and not handing an oft-injured pitcher a huge contract that would have amounted to a lifetime achievement award.

[Fman99]

His team is still 38-20 even without him. So somehow we still got more fucked on this? I'm butthurt about it

[Frayed Knot]

This move from the 15- to the 60-day IL is likely more one of accounting than a real change in status or a set-back.

It precludes a return any earlier than late June but that was pretty much in the cards anyway.

[ashie62]

He has thrown some bullpens and a fresh MRI is scheduled



Jake is a month away so yes put him him on the 60 il



Rangers fans are sick about this and I do understand



The Rangers hit, all of them

[metsmarathon]

this sucks for jake. i really hope that he can get figured out once and for all. he's simply too delightful a talent to not be on the field.



i wonder if converting to a closer would even be a good idea for him. obviously he's not being paid to be a reliever, but if it might help keep him on the field more...