Runner on Second

[G-Fafif]

The extra-inning rule in which a runner magically appears on second to start each half-inning has been made permanent.



Maybe Keith Hernandez was waiting for this veritable guarantee that he wouldn't have to deal with extra, extra long games before agreeing to come back.

[TransMonk]

I was searching for this thread as Greg was creating it!

[Benjamin Grimm]

I'm not surprised, but... Yuck.

[Edgy MD]

Unanimously.



Just insane.

[metirish]

Wow I was really hoping ( expecting )this post would say it was going away

[Frayed Knot]

Fuck 'em with a pine-tarred bat!

[kcmets]

https://www.kcmets.com/Pictures/assclown.jpg>https://www.kcmets.com/Pictures/assclown.jpg>https://www.kcmets.com/Pictures/assclown.jpg>

https://www.kcmets.com/Pictures/assclown.jpg>https://www.kcmets.com/Pictures/assclown.jpg>https://www.kcmets.com/Pictures/assclown.jpg>

https://www.kcmets.com/Pictures/assclown.jpg>https://www.kcmets.com/Pictures/assclown.jpg>https://www.kcmets.com/Pictures/assclown.jpg>

[metsmarathon]

fuck!

[MFS62]

(Paraphrasing Vito Corleone) "Look what they've done to my game".



Later

[nymr83]

This was the dumbest rule change of all.

[Edgy MD]

In another sense, it was smart. They did something they wanted to do for their own benefit, sold it as a pandemic mitigation scheme, and therefore used the pandemic as a Trojan horse to sneak in what they perhaps wouldn't have gotten through the front door.



Lest it not be mentioned, the universal DH was also a fake pandemic-related change that was perpetuated.

[Fman99]

Fuck that committee then. What a big bag of hot wet shit this rule is

[Edgy MD]

It's somehow worse today than it was yesterday.

[kcmets]

Defund The Commish!

[metirish]

The booth likes this rule IIRC ? The didn't like the 7 inning double header , or maybe it's the other way around

[Edgy MD]

Well, shrinkflation is designed to benefit the marketer over the consumer, and that's kind of what this is.

[G-Fafif]

Ed Sudol called and said MLB is now run by a bunch of words he'd eject a batter who struck out looking in any of the 23+ inning Mets games he umpired for calling him because Ed Sudol knows you conduct yourself professionally until legitimate resolution is achieved.

[MFS62]

Who will the runner be for the Mets?

I don't think of any of the non-starters as being particularly fast.

And does Buck want to risk a pitcher getting inured doing something they don't regularly do?

This might have been Khalil Lee, but I don't think he'll be back with the big club (or at least until his legal difficulties have been resolved).

I will be interesting to see how this is resolved.

Later

[Benjamin Grimm]

The runner is whoever is due to bat ninth in the inning.

[MFS62]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: The runner is whoever is due to bat ninth in the inning.

MLB.com only says:

As has been the case for the past three seasons, teams will begin each inning after the ninth with an automatic runner on second base.

https://www.mlb.com/news/automatic-runner-permanent-new-mlb-rules-for-position-players-pitchinghttps://www.mlb.com/news/automatic-runner-permanent-new-mlb-rules-for-position-players-pitching



Other reports I've read (including USA Today, CBS Sports) only say "A runner will be placed at second base.."



None of the reports I've seen have specified whether that is the next batter due up.



Later

[Benjamin Grimm]

We've seen this in place for three seasons now. We know what the rules are.

[Frayed Knot]

The only way to combat this is for an internet campaign to organize a mass walk-out of all fans in all parks the moment the ghost runner appears in the top of the 10th.



I have zero belief that such a thing is possible.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Frayed Knot wrote: The only way to combat this is for an internet campaign to organize a mass walk-out of all fans in all parks the moment the ghost runner appears in the top of the 10th. I have zero belief that such a thing is possible.

I used to, occasionally, fantasize about unionizing, or a union for baseball fans. But eventually, you get tired of dreaming about impossibilities. It'd be incredibly powerful though, if it could be made to happen.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Frayed Knot wrote: The only way to combat this is for an internet campaign to organize a mass walk-out of all fans in all parks the moment the ghost runner appears in the top of the 10th. I have zero belief that such a thing is possible. I used to, occasionally, fantasize about unionizing, or a union for baseball fans. But eventually, you get tired of dreaming about impossibilities. It'd be incredibly powerful though, if it could be made to happen.

It'd wield so much power that fans wouldn't have to walk out. Just the threat of a walk-out would cause the owners to discuss this rule with the union. As that union's powers peaked, it wouldn't even have to threaten a walk-out. Owners wouldn't even think of implementing that rule without first running it by the fans' union.

[Edgy MD]

Get Vic Sage on board and watch sparks fly.

[MFS62]

Edgy MD wrote: Get Vic Sage on board and watch sparks fly.

Blast from the past.

How is he doing lately?

Anybody heard rom him?

Later

[Frayed Knot]

I've been hearing threats of fan boycotts since Ralph Nadar was threatening one (it might have been over the Seaver trade).

The problem, of course, is that you'd need a large pct of fans going along and, as much as we don't want to admit it, some fans LOVE the DH, ghost runners, games decided by HR derbies (or maybe relay races), increased inter-league play, and little propellers on top of the players' caps.

[kcmets]

Sooner or later

You're gonna listen to Ralpn Nader

I don't wanna cause a fuss

But Runners on Second are so dangerous



[media=youtube]cpareF9xy-U[/media]

[Centerfield]

Maybe if they didn't start immediately with the runner it would be ok.



First two extra innings are played normally.



Then two with a runner on 2nd.



Then two with runners on 2nd and 3rd but start with one out.

[kcmets]

No.



When you attend a baseball game you know going in that you may be

there for a couple of hours or for six or seven.