Trade deadline transactions 2022

[ashie62]

The Yankees are on the board acquiring Andrew Benintendi for 3 class A minor league pitchers. Two of them are ranked as 19 and 21 best in the KC system.



Benintendi said he will get the vaccine and travel to Toronto.

[cal sharpie]

Wouldn't bother to get it while playing for the Royals. Jerk.

[Willets Point]

The Yankees continue to collect former Red Sox like Hummels.

[Marshmallowmilkshake]

Aaron Boone is back to calling his guys savages, and mixes in a fake news reference to boot!

“It's fake news that we've got too many power hitters in the lineup, too many sluggers,” Boone told reporters Wednesday after the Yankees acquired Andrew Benintendi from the Royals. “We've got savages in the lineup, really good hitters. Benintendi is a great hitter, gets on base at a really high clip, hits from the left side that gives you some balance. … I'll be excited to write his name.”

[Frayed Knot]

Boone's original "we've got savages " comment was about what I referenced in Wednesday's IGT, how if his hitters opted not to swing at a pitch then it was, by definition, not a strike and the HP Ump therefore wrong.

[Frayed Knot]

I didn't realize until just now that the Royals are opening a weekend series in da Bronx starting tonight. So not only did KC deal Benintendi to the Yanx, they even delivered him!

[G-Fafif]

[Edgy MD]

And so the Luis Castillo watch seemingly reaches its conclusion.



For this year, at least.

[MFS62]

And MFY fans will calling WFAN bemoaning the fact that they didn't get the pitcher they were entitled to.

Snicker.



Later

[seawolf17]

Wow. Didn't see that coming, but if they're giving up three of their top five prospects for him, well, that's a price I would not want us to pay.

[Willets Point]

Any top player that doesn't get traded to the Yankees, Dodgers, or a division rival is a win, imo.

[Frayed Knot]

That Castillo is under team control through 2023 obviously increases the price it took to get him.

Hopefully for the Mariners they'll have him for two pennant races, not just for one.



SS Noelvi Marte (Mariners' No. 1 prospect): 20 y/o, high-A; SS Edwin Arroyo (No. 3) 18 y/o in Low-A;

RHP Levi Stoudt (No. 5) 24 y/o, 3rd round pick 2019 out of Lehigh U, in AA; RHP Andrew Moore 28 y/o, 2nd round pick 2015 Oregon St, bits of ML action in 2017 & 2019

[smg58]

It's the kind of price where the Mariners will very likely get enough value to justify the expense, but at the same time you're not shaking your head wondering why it didn't cost more.

[Frayed Knot]

The Ms are also on the longest streak of missing post-season, not just in baseball but across all four U.S. team sports (since their 116 win season in 2001). So they've

got plenty of incentive to 'go for it' at a time while they're in the second tier of AL teams and while current post-season structures rewards second tier-ness. Currently

they've got little shot at the AL West (-12.0 G to Houston) but are on a roll (17-6 in July), have the 4th best record in AL (behind HOU, NYY, TOR) and the 2nd best WC

record although with a log jam of teams right on their heels, so no time like the present.

[kcmets]

I miss that TiTTs Guy.

[G-Fafif]

[G-Fafif]

Josh Hader to the Padres. Whoa.

[Frayed Knot]

Wait! The struggling to stay in 1st place Brewers are selling!?!?

[Frayed Knot]

And now the Cubs trade reliever Scott Effross, already 28 but in the midst of a very nice season and has five years of team control after this one, to the Yanx for what seems like an OK 24 y/o pitching prospect.



That division seems to be going about things ass backwards.

[roger_that]

Like Kramer conceding the contest, it looks like the Mets have dropped out of the Soto sweepstakes:


https://twitter.com/TalkinBaseball_/status/1553816739451912196

My question is did Soto ever make sense to you?

I know, Cohen has more money than Satan and God combined, and it's not your money, etc. but it seems in addition to bankrupting the farm system (which is arguably worth getting a superstar right now), he wants a contract so huge that giving him anything like the deal he turned down from the Nationals doesn't make much sense, assuming you can sign him to it. So one question is: assume you can't make a deal with him, and he goes FA. How does that work? You've in effect swapped your 3 or 4 best prospects for a few years of Soto and a top draft pick? Is that a good deal?



It may be the best deal, better than signing him to a fifteen year deal. His most comparables on BBREF.com include several burnouts, due to career changing injuries: Tony Conigliaro, Orlando Cepeda, Trout, and quite a few others who did not fifteen quality seasons after age 23. Cepeda and Trout did deliver MVP seasons after age 23, but they had (have) a lot of down seasons where they delivered nothing of value too, and even the ones who put in first ballot HoF careers retired well before Soto's 15-year contract would expire. Mantle, for example. (OTOH, you've got Aaron and Frank Robinson on Soto's comparables, too.) The way to look at it if you're for acquiring him is: Yeah, he might well get hurt, blow out a knee, get HBPed into Bolivia but what you're paying a fortune for is the great years before that happens and the chance that it never happens. Everything beyond the next few years is gravy. And I suppose that universal DH makes the prospect of injury that much less severe.



So how you feel about dropping out of the Soto contest? Relieved or disappointed?

[Ceetar]

I believe we were ever in the Soto 'contest' as much as I believe we've now dropped out of it, but..



if you can get Soto, you do it. fuck prospects. they all suck. Soto might be the difference between a ring and no ring in the next three postseasons.

[Edgy MD]

Mike Trout has had down seasons where he has delivered nothing of value?



Prospects all suck?

[Benjamin Grimm]

Yes, they all suck. Not one prospect has ever become a quality major leaguer. Name one! I dare you!

[Edgy MD]

Well, there's ... shit, you got me.

[Fman99]

Prospects? More like SUSPECTS AM I RIGHT HERE FELLERS

[batmagadanleadoff]

I believe we were ever in the Soto 'contest' as much as I believe we've now dropped out of it, but..

That's my attitude. I never believed, for a second, that the Mets were in the running for Soto. There's the Nats reluctance to trade Soto in their division and that the Mets lack the pieces other teams have to make up for Soto staying in the East.



Is Soto "worth it" anyways? I have no idea and I never will because to answer that question, I'd have to know what Cohen wants from Soto in the first place and I'd never get a 100% honest response from Cohen anyways. Maybe Cohen wants just one WS title and Soto's the best way to get it. That might not sound like much - one WS title - but titles last forever in the collective memory and are elusive -- the Mets themselves haven't won the WS in over 35 years and they play in the greatest city on the planet. With expanded playoffs and more teams participating, it's harder even for the dominant teams to win a WS because of the enormous luck and crap-shoot nature of post season baseball. The Dodgers have been baseball's indisputable best team for about 10 years now and have "just one title". The Yankees haven't won a WS since 2009 and their fans are in a tizzy because they mistakenly believe that the Yanks should be winning it every three or four years. But with expanded playoffs, I'm pretty sure that ain't happening anymore and they're definitely not ever gonna have a run anything like the one under Ol' Case no matter how many Aaron Judges and Gerrit Coles they sign. WS titles are hard and lucky and Cohen could stamp his mark on Mets history with just one title. So if that's what he was thinking, then maybe Soto would've been worth it. Would youse trade away the Mets '86 WS title for another superstar on that team -- some other player whose Mets career you could root for for many years, including all-star seasons and maybe even an MVP award, but at the expense of the Mets losing to the Astros in the '86 playoffs?

[roger_that]

Edgy MD wrote: Mike Trout has had down seasons where he has delivered nothing of value?

Well, no fault of his own (injuries) and "nothing of value" is a slight overstatement, but there must be a limit to the value you place on Trout's 2021, when he batted 117 times. 39 hits isn't nothing, true. but that has to count as a disappointing season by any measure.

[Edgy MD]

Seeing has how it's one season, and he managed to play well (excellently) when he was on the field, I'd say "seasons" of "nothing of value" is just bad analysis.

[Ceetar]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Yes, they all suck. Not one prospect has ever become a quality major leaguer. Name one! I dare you!

there's a non-zero chance that EVERY SINGLE PROSPECT currently in the minor leagues won't be as good as Juan Soto. Screw "quality major leaguer" You can fill a roster with quality major leaguers and be boring and bounce out of the first round of the playoffs.



OR you can have a guy who looks to be one of the best hitters to ever play the game. They don't keep talking about Ted Williams for nothing.



He was right to turn down the contract from the Nationals because it was an insult.



Hell, if you can convince like, Pittsburgh to make a comparable package and then promise them your guys plus another throw-in, you have them make the trade in proxy if the Nationals don't want to trade him to you.



And then you get Cohen to loosen the purse strings and hand them to Soto and ask that pig Adams to reserve the canyon of heroes for late October.

[smg58]

Taylor Rogers has had a bad July for the Padres, but Hader has had a much worse July for the Brewers. And it's more likely that Rogers' stretch involved bad luck. I love this deal from the Brewers perspective.



Prospects don't suck, but the chances of a package of prospects matching what a player like Soto can give you are small.



I'm not convinced the Mets are voluntarily out on Soto, but I can't imagine the Nationals want Soto playing fifteen years for a division rival. They already have that with Harper.