The Lindor Decade Begins

[G-Fafif]

[kcmets]

Yay!



#lgm #ygb #ymdyf

[Ceetar]

Happy days.

[G-Fafif]

The total is $341 million because getting “41” in there was important to both parties...is something I'd love to hear from Cohen and Lindor.



Even if it wasn't.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Nobody peek!



Mike Trout is the highest paid MLB'er for the 2021 season, making between $37M and $38M.



Who's the second highest paid MLB'er for 2021? (I did not know this until I just looked it up. --- Hint: It's not Mookie Betts).

Edited March 31, 2021 by Guest

[Ceetar]

is it not mr pine tar on the other LA team??

[batmagadanleadoff]

Now I'm stumped! Who's Mr. Pine Tar?

[metsmarathon]

scoop - there it is.



sorry, had that song stuck in my head for a long time now.



sprinkles!!!

[nymr83]

=G-Fafif post_id=59130 time=1617247972 user_id=55]
The total is $341 million because getting “41” in there was important to both parties...is something I'd love to hear from Cohen and Lindor.



Even if it wasn't.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Nobody peek! Mike Trout is the highest paid MLB'er for the 2021 season, making between $37M and $38M. Who's the second highest paid MLB'er for 2021? (I did not know this until I just looked it up. --- Hint: It's not Mookie Betts).

Time's up, youse sleepyheads!



It's Jake deGrom, the Met, clocking in at $36,000,000.00 for 2021.* That makes Jake the highest paid NL'er for 2021. Wouldn't have guessed Jake if I had about 10 guesses.





*Tied with Gerrit Cole

[Ceetar]

Mr pine tar is Trevor Bauer. couldn't remember the year by year breakdown of his deal.

[Johnny Lunchbucket]

I don't wanna say I told you so but I told you so. Couldn't believe they wouldn't get it done with cohen trolling like he was and poor met fans terrified.



You guys will be shocked to know tickets go back on sale today too

[kcmets]

=metsmarathon post_id=59134 time=1617251034 user_id=83]scoop - there it is.

sorry, had that song stuck in my head for a long time now.

[Benjamin Grimm]

This wasn't important enough to make the back page of Newsday. They went with a Yankees Opening Day theme instead. They seem to be getting complacent after two consecutive wins in the Tabloid Cover Derby.



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[MFS62]

The moment he steps on the field in the opener, he will become the best ever shortstop for a New York team.

And he didn't have to give out a single gift basket.



Later

[kcmets]

Is the 'no opt outs' being tweetybirded fact?

[Ceetar]

no opt outs, roughly $5 per deferring to the following decade. Seems confirmed but I guess until the Mets tweet the deal nothing is official-official.

[Edgy MD]

No opt-outs is purty sweet. I wonder if he gets the mylar bunny.

[nymr83]

Friends of mine - mostly Yankees fans - are bashing the deal as one we will regret. I don't agree at all. Even if the last few years turn into an albatross that isn't a PROBLEM unless the owner is a cheapskate.

[G-Fafif]

SNY and associated platform will air Francisco Lindor press conference at 3 PM today.

[Frayed Knot]

=nymr83 post_id=59200 time=1617300836 user_id=54]
Friends of mine - mostly Yankees fans - are bashing the deal as one we will regret.

[kcmets]

"Here we go baby!"

[Marshmallowmilkshake]

Ken Davidoff of the Post is quite the Debby Downer.



First: Mets and Lindor have set themselves up for contract disaster.

https://nypost.com/2021/03/31/mets-francisco-lindor-have-set-themselves-up-for-contract-disaster/%5B/url%0A%0AThis%20was%20posted%20at%205:12,%20probably%20as%20hands%20were%20being%20shaken.%0A%0AThen,%20at%20noon%20today:%20There%27s%20risk%20in%20Mets%27%20$341%20million%20Francisco%20Lindor%20contract%20%0A%5Burl%5Dhttps://nypost.com/2021/04/01/theres-risk-in-mets-341-million-francisco-lindor-contract/https://nypost.com/2021/03/31/mets-francisco-lindor-have-set-themselves-up-for-contract-disaster/[/url

This was posted at 5:12, probably as hands were being shaken.

Then, at noon today: There's risk in Mets' $341 million Francisco Lindor contract
https://nypost.com/2021/04/01/theres-risk-in-mets-341-million-francisco-lindor-contract/



Disaster if it down't happen, then it's all about the risk once it is signed. Got it.



At least he's predictable. Well, not as predictable as Ian O'Connor, still slobbering over Derek Jeter.



https://nypost.com/2021/03/31/yankees-can-look-to-derek-jeter-for-world-series-start/https://nypost.com/2021/03/31/yankees-can-look-to-derek-jeter-for-world-series-start/

[bmfc1]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2021/06/01/mets-francisco-lindor-isnt-slump-hes-three-year-slide/https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2021/06/01/mets-francisco-lindor-isnt-slump-hes-three-year-slide/

Neil Greenberg is a smart guy so his conclusion is upsetting.

[whippoorwill]

Crap I thought he did something good

[Ceetar]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2021/06/01/mets-francisco-lindor-isnt-slump-hes-three-year-slide/https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2021/06/01/mets-francisco-lindor-isnt-slump-hes-three-year-slide/ Neil Greenberg is a smart guy so his conclusion is upsetting.

I don't know who he is or if he's smart, but that post was not convincing. Too much small sample stuff, particularly for this year. It goes all in on a "3 year slide" without mentioning the the first year was close to career norms, it's just that year before was an out-lier on the good side. The second year and third year of the 'slide' only add up to about 2/3rds of the first. (and again, if we get that first year for 10 years, he's a first-ballot Hall of Famer and maybe the best Met ever)



It doesn't mention anything at all about what was weird about 2020 and how it might have affected the numbers. It takes the 2021 small sample and takes it with more seriousness than it's probably worth, given a small sample. Yes, if he continues like this it won't be a good sign, but it's a stretch to say the last 100 games are more predictive of the rest of his career than the 700 before it. Especially when, as he notes in some cases, mainly the problem is he's not squaring it up. He's still striking out at the same rate ,and actually walking a lot more. So is his lack of 'barrels' a sign of some sort of decline, or more likely, simply a slump and a result of not having a great start.



He notes it a little bit, but doesn't quite connect the dots. It's not like Lindor is squaring it up and just not hitting it hard enough, bat speed, or something like that. It's that he's topping it more than usual. He's swinging at the wrong pitches and not squaring up the ones he chooses to swing at. But there's nothing predictive in there that suggests this is more than a slump.

[Edgy MD]

So, more accurately, we're looking at a two-year slide, with the two years adding up to a little over 100 games.



At least, to date.

[whippoorwill]

Yeah it didn't look all that alarming to me either.



Hopefully he can resume his last two year form even if that's supposed to be a slump🙄

[G-Fafif]

Tom Verducci suggests Lindor's defense is not incidental to the Mets holding it together through all the injuries.

Lindor is among the two or three best defensive shortstops in the game. Though he was hitting .191 entering Sunday, he has continued his elite defense, which is a major upgrade on Amed Rosario, who lacked range and the footwork to make backhand plays. Lindor has an uncanny knack of reading hitters, which adds to his tremendous range that is helped by playing one of the deeper shortstop positions in the game. In non-shifts, Lindor plays four feet deeper than Rosario did and six feet deeper than Andres Gimenez, who split the job with Rosario last year. “It's no knock on Rosario. He was great for us,” Rojas says. “Lindor is just a better defender than whoever you want to compare him to.” ... deGrom is so good that he may be to 2021 what Bob Gibson was to 1968: a pitcher so good the rules of the game will need to change to give hitters a better chance. Do not overlook the role of the Mets' improved defense in deGrom's historic season. The Mets have reduced the batting average on balls in play against deGrom by 61 points, including a reduction of 129 points on groundballs and line drives up the middle, when Lindor's range and their increased use of shifts are most noticeable.

https://www.si.com/mlb/2021/05/31/mets-defense-improvement-the-openerhttps://www.si.com/mlb/2021/05/31/mets-defense-improvement-the-opener

[Ceetar]

46 game sample is all but meaningless in terms of defensive stats. Fangraphs actually has Lindor playing probably the worst defense of his career. Most of that seems to be range stuff, but he's on pace for a career high plays out of the zone, which strongly suggests the metrics haven't quite figured out the Mets shifts properly. I imagine the revolving door of other fielders around him has played into that a bunch too.



The Mets defense is shockingly good this year. Some of that's gotta be just that they're less adept regulars are hurt, but certainly not all. Though I can't help but wonder if it's just the ball/bullpen. Every ball in play is just that much easier because the bullpen is excelling because the ball isn't as lively.