George Springer

[Centerfield]

Buster Olney says on ESPN radio that he will be his family farm that Springer ends up on the Mets. I have no doubt the Mets will do their part, but this is the first place I've seen it suggested that George is interested.

[MFS62]

Buster Olney says on ESPN radio that he will be his family farm that Springer ends up on the Mets. I have no doubt the Mets will do their part, but this is the first place I've seen it suggested that George is interested.

I still can't think of someone who calls himself "Buster" as credible.

I'm not counting these chickens until I hear the peep.



Later

[Frayed Knot]

Olney (Robert Stanbury Olney III) grew up on a dairy farm in Vermont, so that would be the prize for anyone who cares to take him up on that bet.

Then the only question that remains is whether you'd consider gaining ownership of a dairy operation in north-central Vermont to be a 'win'.

[MFS62]

Frayed Knot wrote: Olney (Robert Stanbury Olney III) grew up on a dairy farm in Vermont, so that would be the prize for anyone who cares to take him up on that bet. Then the only question that remains is whether you'd consider gaining ownership of a dairy operation in north-central Vermont to be a 'win'.

LOL!

Good point.

Must be something about New Englandahs that makes them think they know everything about baseball, but don't - like Peter Gammons.

Later

[Benjamin Grimm]

Bob Klapsich wrote: #Mets are moving closer to George Springer and/or Trevor Bauer. Ultimate target is TBD. I'm told @StevenACohen2 is leaning towards Springer; Alderson would like to sign Bauer. Either one would be a huge upgrade in Flushing.

I'm rooting for AND over OR.

[LWFS]

Frayed Knot wrote: Olney (Robert Stanbury Olney III) grew up on a dairy farm in Vermont, so that would be the prize for anyone who cares to take him up on that bet. Then the only question that remains is whether you'd consider gaining ownership of a dairy operation in north-central Vermont to be a 'win'.

"Buster" > "Trip"/"Tripp" (but it's close)

[Frayed Knot]

And probably also better than Harry, Harry II (Skip), and Harry III (Chip) Carey.

[Edgy MD]

Bob Klapsich wrote: #Mets are moving closer to George Springer and/or Trevor Bauer. Ultimate target is TBD. I'm told @StevenACohen2 is leaning towards Springer; Alderson would like to sign Bauer. Either one would be a huge upgrade in Flushing.

I'm with CoCo here, but that tweet sure lands a hit on centerfield's #3.

[bmfc1]

Jeff Passan has a column this morning that has many, many thoughts but no conclusions. My summary: The Mets are in on all but there are no guarantees.



Here's an excerpt. (Seriously, George. Toronto? It's not like Eugene Levy will be there to greet you. You're a Connecticut guy so we know that Toronto is a beard. Plus, you might have to play in Buffalo for a few months. We're ready when you are.)

[bLOCKQUOTE]... Springer might be the most fascinating of all because of the teams vying for his services: the New York Mets and Toronto Blue Jays. There are others, too, but executives believe this is a two-team race between the duo seen as the likely biggest spenders this winter.

Certainly this benefits Springer; bidding wars these days are few and far between. But Springer also understands that there are scenarios in which both teams go in another direction. The Blue Jays, sources said, have emerged as significant players in the LeMahieu sweepstakes -- perhaps the biggest threat to him re-signing with the New York Yankees, with whom a significant gap remains. The Mets also have expressed interest in LeMahieu. New York is seen by a number of executives as the best landing spot for Bauer. [/bLOCKQUOTE]

https://www.espn.com/mlb/insider/story/_/id/30568689/what-jeff-passan-hearing-new-homes-george-springer-nolan-arenadohttps://www.espn.com/mlb/insider/story/_/id/30568689/what-jeff-passan-hearing-new-homes-george-springer-nolan-arenado

[stevejrogers]

There was some non-blue checkmark “insider” twats twittering that a signing was imminent in time for Christmas.



Clearly that was trolling trash!

[Frayed Knot]

Citing "a source" (Ceetar would refer to that as 'making it up') the NYDN https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/mets/ny-mets-george-springer-20201230-golgieaw35gajm2en7ppg6kp5u-story.htmlsays it's down to the Mets or Jays for a January signing.

[Centerfield]

I like her stuff but that is a lot of filler in that article. Basically you can stop reading after the first 3 sentences.

[MFS62]

Frayed Knot wrote: Citing "a source" (Ceetar would refer to that as 'making it up') the NYDN https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/mets/ny-mets-george-springer-20201230-golgieaw35gajm2en7ppg6kp5u-story.htmlsays it's down to the Mets or Jays for a January signing.

That "source" is probably SNY, which has been saying the same thing. This may be a chicken/egg situation.



OE: Jeff Passan of ESPN+ said it was down to 2 teams back on Dec. 21. Here's the link, but it has a paywall.

https://www.espn.com/mlb/insider/story/_/id/30568689/what-jeff-passan-hearing-new-homes-george-springer-nolan-arenadohttps://www.espn.com/mlb/insider/story/_/id/30568689/what-jeff-passan-hearing-new-homes-george-springer-nolan-arenado

Later

[Benjamin Grimm]

I have to think that the Mets will be able to put together a better deal than the Blue Jays. I expect Springer to be a Met. I'm more concerned about whether or not they'll get a deep enough starting rotation.



If they sign Springer, I think they may very well trade Nimmo, unless we learn that there will be no DH in 2021.

[Centerfield]

I hope not. I imagine it would take about a month before we get hit with an injury and regret trading him.



Besides. The DH will be full time in 2022, if not 2021.

[nymr83]

=Centerfield post_id=53055 time=1609423643 user_id=65]
I hope not. I imagine it would take about a month before we get hit with an injury and regret trading him.



Besides. The DH will be full time in 2022, if not 2021.

[Lefty Specialist]

If Nimmo helps to get a legitimate #2 starter, I'll pack his bags for him.

[Centerfield]

Now that we have Lindor in hand, there is speculation that Springer is less likely than he was before. Not sure how true that is, but I guess we should start considering other options. Unless we want a repeat of Nimmo in CF, which the analytics guys are not crazy about, I'm sure.



There are rumblings about Jackie Bradley Jr. Not sure what it would cost to get him, but MLB Trade Rumors predicts him at 2 years, $16MM. I'd be inclined to skip that for a guy with a career OPS of .732. Over 30 guy who's value is mainly in defense.



Not sure what other CF options there are. I'm sure the Brewers would love to unload Lorenzo Cain, who had a down year in 2019 and opted out of 2020. Article here:



https://www.brewcrewball.com/2020/12/1/21755152/milwaukee-brewers-trade-candidates-lorenzo-cainhttps://www.brewcrewball.com/2020/12/1/21755152/milwaukee-brewers-trade-candidates-lorenzo-cain



You'd think Starling Marte would become available during the year if Miami falls out of it.



I don't know. At the risk of sounding greedy, I still think Springer is the one guy the Mets needed the most.

[MFS62]

=Centerfield post_id=53543 time=1610117195 user_id=65]
Now that we have Lindor in hand, there is speculation that Springer is less likely than he was before.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Does that include making room for a contract for Lindor and Conforto?



And remember, just because Springer is asking for $175 million over five, it doesn't mean that's what he'll get.

[MFS62]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Does that include making room for a contract for Lindor and Conforto? And remember, just because Springer is asking for $175 million over five, it doesn't mean that's what he'll get.

Yes, that is the amount remaining after the acquisitions. (as calculated by SNY)

I agree. You can't always get what you want.

https://video.search.yahoo.com/search/video?fr=yfp-t-s&p=you+can%27t+always+get+what+you+want#id=1&vid=a87cee5d85f8f525cb56b91979765249&action=clickhttps://video.search.yahoo.com/search/video?fr=yfp-t-s&p=you+can%27t+always+get+what+you+want#id=1&vid=a87cee5d85f8f525cb56b91979765249&action=click





Later

[MFS62]

In their twelve pictures of ballplayers today, baseball-reference has George Springer.

Someone there is messing with our minds.

Later

[ashie62]

Springer will come to Cohen. George ain't getting anywhere near $175 million.

[batmagadanleadoff]

In their twelve pictures of ballplayers today, baseball-reference has George Springer. Someone there is messing with our minds.

Re: "today". BRef's photo lineup at the top of its main page changes with every click. Click on BRef right now and you'll get a completely different (randomized) array.





I just got Mike Piazza in a special Tom Lasorda tribute home page. Is that a coincidence? Piazza/Lasorda? (Lasorda made Piazza's career possible).



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[Centerfield]

I listened to this podcast of Jon Heyman interviewing Sandy Alderson. Full disclosure, I didn't realize it was Heyman until after it was done. He sounds like he's 100 years old by the way.



https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/big-time-baseball-a-radio-com-sports-original/id1458916969https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/big-time-baseball-a-radio-com-sports-original/id1458916969



Anyway, the takeaway here is that Sandy says they are loosely engaged with Springer, while expressing the need to add an outfielder, preferably right-handed. If I'm reading between the lines here, it seems like Springer is a possibility, but that Sandy and company seem content to wait it out and see if he comes around to them at their price. The suggestion here is that getting Lindor takes away the pressure to bring in Springer. In essence, I think Sandy is trying to negate any leverage that Springer may have felt he had by fans like me, and media designating Springer a "must get".



Bottom line, I think we may get Springer, only if meets our asking price, and that if it happens, it's likely not going to happen for a while.

[Benjamin Grimm]

I wouldn't be at all surprised if they're waiting on the DH decision too. If there's no DH, then signing Springer marginalizes Dominic Smith and you're therefore improving the team that much less.



If there's no DH, maybe LeMahieu is a better fit than Springer.

[MFS62]

Looks like the Mets are kicking the tires on other CF options, pending a decision on the DH.

Albert Almora is one of those options:

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/mets-interest-free-agent-center-150654799.htmlhttps://www.yahoo.com/sports/mets-interest-free-agent-center-150654799.html



Later

[Johnny Lunchbucket]

Sherman has an even more nuanced take. Good stuff here including his own WATP that the Mets sans a DH/Springer could flip Familia and Betances for Lorenzo Cain.



https://nypost.com/2021/01/13/mlbs-dh-fight-holding-up-mets-offseason-sherman/https://nypost.com/2021/01/13/mlbs-dh-fight-holding-up-mets-offseason-sherman/

[Edgy MD]

=Sherm]That decision would allow the Mets — more than any other NL team — to maximize their current roster and more efficiently make further improvements.

[vtmet7]

best way to fix the overall pitching staff is to fix the defense...an outfield with Nimmo in CF is not the answer...judging by Almora's stats, he's not a MLB player on anything other than a cellar dweller...