Sandy Alderson, Mets Team President, 2021

[batmagadanleadoff]

I've posted here several times here over the years about just how disappointed I was when the Mets re-signed David Wright to a huge contract after the 2012 season. I thought the Mets were in such horrible shape going into 2013, that they were years away from contending and that that they wouldn't have won half their games the following season even if Wright were to win the NL MVP award. I thought that Wright was the very last player on the 2013 roster that the Mets should've had under contract, especially given Wright's price tag and the Mets wrecked finances, and that with Wright apparently still in peak form and no signs then of the injuries that would eventually derail and ultimately end his career, I figured that Sandy Alderson would've gotten a haul of prospects in a Wright trade. I also speculated that Alderson probably thought along these lines and that the Wright re-signing was the product of the usual Wilpon meddling and their fear of the press and fan reaction.



Today I feel somewhat vindicated:

The Mets awarded long-term extensions to David Wright and eventually to Yoenis Cespedes. One Alderson ally described the moves as "pushed more by ownership as opposed to baseball ops," and Alderson himself spoke of both moves as important symbols to the fan base and the organization's "brand." However, both proved to be a strain on the budget, limiting the leeway to make other moves.

From



‘There's unfinished business': Why Sandy Alderson came back to the Mets



https://theathletic.com/2197323/2020/11/17/sandy-alderson-mets/https://theathletic.com/2197323/2020/11/17/sandy-alderson-mets/

[Centerfield]

It's interesting to see Sandy in action without the Wilpon influence. I agree with the McCann move, though I would have been fine waiting him out to see if anyone else offered four years. Don't know enough about Trevor May, and love the Lindor trade.



I disagree about not matching Toronto for Springer, and I think the whole Bauer thing was nuts. I would have offered Brad Hand three years to get him here.



I think he has one more big move left this winter. It would be a disappointment if we ended with Almora and Jake Arrieta.

[ashie62]

If the Mets were willing to spend/bid on Bauer they could have matched Springer.

[nymr83]

=Centerfield post_id=55637 time=1612717295 user_id=65]
It's interesting to see Sandy in action without the Wilpon influence. I agree with the McCann move, though I would have been fine waiting him out to see if anyone else offered four years. Don't know enough about Trevor May, and love the Lindor trade.



I disagree about not matching Toronto for Springer, and I think the whole Bauer thing was nuts. I would have offered Brad Hand three years to get him here.



I think he has one more big move left this winter. It would be a disappointment if we ended with Almora and Jake Arrieta.

[bmfc1]

Hand wanted to close and then return to the FA market as a closer so the Mets weren't going to get him.

They blew it on Springer, even though he's a 31 year-old CF. That's the one that still bothers me.

[Centerfield]

Yeah. Springer is the big miss here. I also don't agree that Bauer was the one to prioritize.



In the end, they short changed the consistent performer who wanted to be here, and extended themselves for the dickhead with inconsistent results.

[Benjamin Grimm]

I'd be happy if they sign Odorizzi or Walker and extend Conforto AND Lindor. I would declare this a very successful off-season. (It's already very successful. But it can get even more "successfuller")

[RealityChuck]

What I find a big step up in this offseason is that the team is doing things. In the past, it was one or two second-tier free agents and then a bunch of castoffs and reclamation projection. This year you get the impression that Sandy is trying to build a much better club, and even when they fail to get a target, the go all out.

[bmfc1]

=Centerfield post_id=55644 time=1612721039 user_id=65]
Yeah. Springer is the big miss here. I also don't agree that Bauer was the one to prioritize.

[Centerfield]

Andy Martino speculates the Mets are largely done. Back end starter, bench guys. No more big ticket moves. Are you happy with the winter?

[Benjamin Grimm]

Yes. Provided they extend Lindor and Conforto.

[bmfc1]

Per Tim Healy, Sandy will "absolutely" return as team President in 2022... because 2021 worked out so damn well.

[bLOCKQUOTE]One of the questions looming for the final weeks of the Mets' season has an answer: Sandy Alderson "absolutely" will stay on as team president for 2022, a source with knowledge of owner Steve Cohen's thinking said Tuesday.

That means Alderson will get a second shot at shaping the baseball operations department, including running the search for a president of baseball operations, who then will decide what to do about the general manager job.[/bLOCKQUOTE]

https://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/mets/sandy-alderson-mets-1.50361859https://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/mets/sandy-alderson-mets-1.50361859



Here's a live look at Sandy planning his next round of Front Office hires:

https://youtu.be/fLpmswBKVN4https://youtu.be/fLpmswBKVN4

[MFS62]

Here's a live look at Sandy planning his next round of Front Office hires: https://youtu.be/fLpmswBKVN4https://youtu.be/fLpmswBKVN4

That is what we see when we look at what he's already put together - Slim Pickin's.

Later

[Ceetar]

I have zero faith in Sandy running this team, on or off the field.

[Johnny Lunchbucket]

He got a bankrupt team with bad ownership to the World Series.



This year was obviously a wreck as they didn;t have the [peeps they wanted to have in enough time to secure them.



Next Year will be Year 1 all over again

[Ceetar]

because he got lucky with the flyer he took on Addison Reed. (oh, and they made actual acquisitions at the deadline to fill holes, that helped. Wonder where that was this year?) And he promptly squandered all that by failing to build on it, and then he came here this year and WHIFFED on all the holes. George Springer..damn, there couldn't have been a more perfect fit short and long term. What a no-brainer, shame the Mets couldn't find another 5 bucks.



Nevermind the hand waving of sexual harassment and then getting annoyed that people didn't like it.

[Johnny Lunchbucket]

because he got lucky with the flyer he took on Addison Reed. (oh, and they made actual acquisitions at the deadline to fill holes, that helped. Wonder where that was this year?) And he promptly squandered all that by failing to build on it, and then he came here this year and WHIFFED on all the holes. George Springer..damn, there couldn't have been a more perfect fit short and long term. What a no-brainer, shame the Mets couldn't find another 5 bucks. Nevermind the hand waving of sexual harassment and then getting annoyed that people didn't like it.

Yeah I think a real analysis of context would show that the Sydergaard trade, some good drafting, some decisions about what NOT to do (Make Fammy a closer instead of paying top retail for one) etc also helped things along. The "failing to build" part is closely tied, in my mind, to Fred's end-around in bringing failures like Omar back to the organization that he helped to wreck when the money ran out.



At any rate, I think a Year 1 do-over with more time to plan seems likely especially based on the recent reports. Then there's Cohen today offering a bounty on the head of the leak-ee of this juicy Puma story. https://nypost.com/2021/09/15/mets-president-search-complicated-by-steve-cohens-tweets/https://nypost.com/2021/09/15/mets-president-search-complicated-by-steve-cohens-tweets/

Years ago I told you I met the one-time Jersey daily beat writer who became a corporate spokesman in my work, and he revealed to me the beaters back then got a lotta "one exec said" stuff from JP Ricciardi, who was run over in Fred's revenge/Sandy's squandering of his hard-won momentum. That's my guess but I'd rather watch a game with Jeff Wilpon

[batmagadanleadoff]

=Ceetar post_id=77825 time=1631711282 user_id=102]
I have zero faith in Sandy running this team, on or off the field.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: Then there's Cohen today offering a bounty on the head of the leak-ee of this juicy Puma story. https://nypost.com/2021/09/15/mets-president-search-complicated-by-steve-cohens-tweets/https://nypost.com/2021/09/15/mets-president-search-complicated-by-steve-cohens-tweets/ https://twitter.com/StevenACohen2/status/1438485830310535172

Cohen's tweeting is really "something". I wonder if it'll discourage some front office talent from wanting to work for him.

[Edgy MD]

Some, maybe, but that's not really a problem.



I would expect supply grossly outstrips demand for would-be front office executives. (Who doesn't want that job?) And I'd rather somebody who wants to put their head down in those jobs over those who get off on fostering personal media relationships.



I mean, it takes a mindstretch to imagine somebody saying, "You know, the Mets like my credentials, and I think I killed it in my interview, but they really seem to be dicks about execs leaking to the media on the side. I'm going to turn them down and hope something opens up soon with the Rangers."

[Edgy MD]

That's not the finest of looks.

[Frayed Knot]

Yeah, unless I'm missing something here, this is a very weird exercise to be played out in public by Uncle Stevie.

[Ceetar]

Cohen's tweeting is really "something". I wonder if it'll discourage some front office talent from wanting to work for him.

A little more public than most, but I imagine most of these asshole owners are similar in their demeanor.



Can someone cite the quote? I briefly looked when Steve tweeted it, but Puma hadn't even tweeted the link to his own article and looking at the Post headlines is just full of right wing propaganda and idiocy. (apparently they don't know that someone born in Toronto is an immigrant.)



Samson denied it btw, and how would Steve know it was him anyway? Unless Steve is asking Puma's bosses, if they even knew.

[A Boy Named Seo]

Putting bounties on people is all the rage nowadays.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Edgy MD wrote: Some, maybe, but that's not really a problem. I would expect supply grossly outstrips demand for would-be front office executives. (Who doesn't want that job?) And I'd rather somebody who wants to put their head down in those jobs over those who get off on fostering personal media relationships. I mean, it takes a mindstretch to imagine somebody saying, "You know, the Mets like my credentials, and I think I killed it in my interview, but they really seem to be dicks about execs leaking to the media on the side. I'm going to turn them down and hope something opens up soon with the Rangers."

It's not just that tweet or tweeting in general, but that Cohen's tweeting habit could be indicative of other questionable habits.



And it could be a big deal if its the one guy at the top of Cohen's list who rejects the Mets because of stuff like this. I'm not suggesting the Mets wont be able to get anybody.



It took me so many clicks to type this post correctly, that I probably could've written it five times if I didnt make any mistakes. Fucking smartphone keypad.

[ashie62]

You pay enough and you will get who you want.



It is always about the money.



Personally I think Sandy is a dinosaur.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Like with Springer and Realmuto.

[Edgy MD]

I got no problem with dinos. I'm a big Flintstone fan.

[ashie62]

Is their a KBO team the Dinos lol.



Do we know the Mets were the highest bidders for either Springer or Realmuto?

[Johnny Lunchbucket]

Edgy MD wrote: https://twitter.com/StevenACohen2/status/1438518031253082121 https://twitter.com/StevenACohen2/status/1438518717302796308 That's not the finest of looks.

Yeah where we have seen influential rich guy with adoring sucker fans engage them to attack the integrity of the press when he hears an opinion he doesn't like.