Son of a ...

[nymr83]

The sons of Fernando Tatis, Vlad Guerrero, and Craig Bighio as well as the grandson of Carl Yastremzki all made their major league debuts this year. In what year did the most decendants of former major leaguers mke their debuts? I dont know the answer, but can anyone top 4?

[Frayed Knot]

Not sure about whether four in a year is unique (my guess is yes but I don't know that)

But I would say that it's pretty safe to assume that the spawn of three MLB H-o-F'ers have never made their ML debuts within a month before.

Vladdy Jr = Apr 26; Cavan Biggio = May 24; Mike Yastrzemski = May 25







btw, Good on young Yazzy for sticking it out. He's nearly 29 y/o and is nobody's idea of a prospect.

And it's not like, with that name, he can go unnoticed and not have unflattering comparisons tossed in his direction.

There must have been many temptations to just give it up along the way.







New York connections?

Tatis senior played for the Mets while Vlad senior was linked by rumors to the Mets right up until signing with Anaheim.

And both Biggio Sr & Grandpa Yaz were Long Island natives.

Biggio (Kings Park HS) actually won Suffolk County's top HS football award as a HS senior, and I remember reading a Newsday piece, probably back some time during the '90s,

about how one of Yaz's HS basketball records (Bridgehampton HS) had just been broken some four decades after he set it.



You can probably win a few bar bets with Yaz's L.I. connection. Since everyone associates him with New England many think he's always been from there but he was the scion of immigrant

Polish potato farming stock out on the (then much more rural) south fork.

Suffolk County's top HS baseball award -- the one Biggio didn't win (although Boomer Esiason did) -- is named for Yaz.

Edited May 27, 2019 by Guest

[Willets Point]

Bo Bichette could debut as a Blue Jay this season too. Toronto seems to be having a 90's revival with Guerrero, Biggio, and Bichette.

[Frayed Knot]

Other father/son baseball news could happen early next week.



Bobby Witt -- RHP, MLB 1986 - 2001; 142 wins w/ the Rangers, A's, Marlins, Rangers again, Cards, Devil Rays, Indians, and Diamondbacks -- was the 3rd overall draft pick in the loaded* 1985 draft.

But by next week he could be the lowest draft pick in his own family as Bobby Jr., a a high school SS from Texas, is widely expected to go 2nd overall to the Royals. Some are using terms like 'best SS

prospect since Alex Rodriguez' to describe him.

Currently, the Grieves: Tom, 6th overall in 1968, and Ben, 2nd in 1994 have honors as the highest drafted F/S combo.







* BJ Suhrhoff (1st); Will Clark (2); Witt (3); Barry Larkin (4); Barry Bonds (6); Pete Incaviglia (8); Walt Weiss (11); Gregg Jefferies (20); Rafael Palmiero (22); Randy Johnson (2nd round - 36th)

Failing to ever make the majors from that 1st round were picks 5, 9, 13, 16, 21, 24, 25, & 28

That's right, the guy picked just one slot prior to Bonds -- a HS catcher by the ChiSox -- got only briefly to AAA and wound up .243/.306/.325 (23 HRs) in just over 2,000 minor league PA

[Edgy MD]

Fun Father/Son Fact: There have been five three-generation MLB families. All five have had a Met connection, in that, at least one member of the three generations was under contract with the Mets, if not necessarily appearing in a regular season game for the big team.



Fun Father/Son Kwiz: Name these five families and which member of the families provided the Mets connection.

[Frayed Knot]

Haistons: Gen1 = Sam; Gen 2 = Jerry Sr. & John; Gen 3 = Jerry Jr. & Scott

Scott was tasked with destroying whatever LHP faced the Mets one season



Boones: Gen 1 = Ray; Gen 2 = Bob; Gen 3 = Aaron & Bret



Bells: Gen 1 = Gus; Gen 2 = Buddy; Gen 3 = David

As the 30th ranked player in the 120-loss 1962 season, Gus consistently holds down the final slot (currently #701) in the CPF Rankings Project.

[Edgy MD]

Scott Hairston actually got two years with the Mets.



Bret Boone was a Spring Training Met in 2006 before hanging them up. Bret's son, Jake, was drafted in 2017 by the Nats, but decided to play for Princeton instead.



So, with the Bells, that's three. Of the two families remaining, one features a one-year Met from a pretty depressing year. The other features a player currently in the Mets' system.

[LWFS]

Alou/Rojas?

[Edgy MD]

The Alou bloodlines so far go more broad than deep — two generations.



Jesús, Felipe, and Matty in the first generation.



The second generation includes Moisés, and current Mets coach Luis Rojas, Moisés brother, who didn't play in the bigs, as well as Mel Rojas, Moy's cousin.

[nymr83]

Alomar?

[Edgy MD]

Three guys over two generations. All played for the Mets, though.

[ashie62]

Jim & Jamie McAndrew?

[Edgy MD]

It's hard to spread three generations over two guys.



One of the three-generation families remaining does not link all three in a direct line. Player One is the father of Player Two. Player Three is the grandson of Player One and the nephew of Player Two.



To broaden the mix a little, Player Three is also the stepson of a major leaguer.

[stevejrogers]

RMPL!

[Frayed Knot]

Edgy MD wrote: One of the three-generation families remaining does not link all three in a direct line. Player One is the father of Player Two. Player Three is the grandson of Player One and the nephew of Player Two. To broaden the mix a little, Player Three is also the stepson of a major leaguer.

That would be the Schofield/Werth tree.

John Richard 'Ducky' Schofield is the father of (brief NYM) Richard Craig 'Dick' Schofield who is the uncle of Jayson Werth who in turn is the step-son of Dennis Werth

Dennis Werth played briefly for the Yanx in the early '80s although I have ZERO memory of him.



I assume this means that Werth was the son of of Dick's sister. Not sure who his biological father was but I always got a kick out of the fact that Ducky & Dick were

listed at 5'9"/163, and 5'10"/175 (and people wonder why HRs are up these days!!) while sis's kid topped out at 6'5"/235 ... and that doesn't even include the hair.

Edited May 29, 2019 by Guest

[duan]

where do we stand on Mookie & Preston?

[duan]

ah i need to read more post less - didn't see the 3 generations thing.

[Edgy MD]

Frayed Knot wrote: Edgy MD wrote: One of the three-generation families remaining does not link all three in a direct line. Player One is the father of Player Two. Player Three is the grandson of Player One and the nephew of Player Two. To broaden the mix a little, Player Three is also the stepson of a major leaguer. That would be the Schofield/Werth tree. John Richard 'Ducky' Schofield is the father of (brief NYM) Richard Craig 'Dick' Schofield who is the uncle of Jayson Werth who in turn is the step-son of Dennis Werth Dennis Werth played briefly for the Yanx in the early '80s although I have ZERO memory of him. I assume this means that Werth was the son of of Dick's sister. Not sure who his biological father was but I always got a kick out of the fact that Ducky & Dick were listed at 5'9"/163, and 5'10"/175 (and people wonder why HRs are up these days!!) while sis's kid topped out at 6'5"/235 ... and that doesn't even include the hair.

The Schofield-Werth clan is correct.



Werth had a little more help in his gene pool than the DNA provided by Dicky and Ducky. Not only was his mother a Schofield, she was also a champion long jumper and sprinter in the NCAA, having reached as far as the Olympic trials. His father was Jeff Gowan, who led all NCAA receivers in receptions while playing for Illinois State. He also played baseball there, as well as putting in a year of minor league ball with for the Cardinals in 1978. Also, Werth's great-grandfather played minor-league ball from 1924-1938.



Our last three-generation family is the only family ever to provide three generations of MLB pitchers, one of whom is a minor league Met as we speak.

[Frayed Knot]

Ducky Schofield, btw, still alive at age 84 as he approaches 48 years since his MLB days ended (final game = Sep of '71)

Not only do few ML players get to see their grandkids play in the sport but he got to see his have a 15 year career and then retire.

Helps when you become a grand-dad at the age of 44. J Werth turned 40 last week. Dick is 56

[MFS62]

Is Casey Coleman related to the more well known pitching Colemans (Joe and Joe Jr.)?



Later

[Edgy MD]

Indeed he is. Three generations of big league pitchers. Casey, unfortunately, has followed a strong April with a shit May, and if he works his way back to the big leagues, it may have to be out of the bullpen, having been tagged for seven runs in one inning in his last start.

[Edgy MD]

By the way, in response to the original question, I'm going to go with 1992. Ken Griffey and Barry Bonds were the defining players of the 1990s, and they ushered in an era of multi-talented big league offspring that pretty much grew up in big league clubhouses.



That said, as the league grows, the number off opportunities for second generation players grows, so the number is probably tending to increase, even since the 1990s. Also, they now tend to come from wealthy backgrounds, so they can afford to kick around the minors longer, waiting for their chance.

[Johnny Lunchbucket]

Have we talked about young Jack Leiter?



This is a nice interview. When is Al going to the Mets HoF?

[Edgy MD]

The staff at the Charm City Mets Research Institute has taken up the question, and the current record holder is ... 2010! But 2019 is on a pace to break the record with a little more than a third of the season gone.



If you're feeling bold, feel free to guess who the 2010 second-generation debutantes were. One name per post, and no consecuposting.



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[Edgy MD]

So, which 10 second-generation big-leaguers debuted in 2010?

[Frayed Knot]

Willets Point wrote: Bo Bichette could debut as a Blue Jay this season too. Toronto seems to be having a 90's revival with Guerrero, Biggio, and Bichette.

Not yet confirmed by the club, but multiple reports say (SS) Bo Bichette is being called up by Blue Jays

[nymr83]

Frayed Knot wrote: Willets Point wrote: Bo Bichette could debut as a Blue Jay this season too. Toronto seems to be having a 90's revival with Guerrero, Biggio, and Bichette. Not yet confirmed by the club, but multiple reports say (SS) Bo Bichette is being called up by Blue Jays

they traded Sogard today so it seems inevitable

[Willets Point]

I didn't know this until I looked it up, but Lourdes Gurriel Jr. also has a baseball pedigree, although Senior didn't play in MLB. Lourdes Gourriel (spelled slightly different than his MLB children) played for the Cuban National Team and won a gold medal at the 1992 Olympics and numerous gold medals in other baseball tournaments.