Mickey Calloway Deathwatch, 2k19

[Edgy MD]

Callaway safe ... https://www.yahoo.com/sports/sources-mets-manager-mickey-callaway-safe-through-the-weekend-015414187.htmlthrough the weekend.

[LWFS]

Sunday night'll be a tense one, won't it?



I mean, after that Daenerys heel turn and all that dragon damage to Kings Landing, all bets are off on that show, right? Also, he'll be thinking about being fired the following morning.

[Edgy MD]

Sure. If the Mets win 12-1, and he gets a stay, the sword will still be over his head.



And the official management line will be, "We're always re-evaluating, but no, it's not true that he would've been fired if the team didn't win big yesterday."



And the strong subtext would be "And it's not true that he wouldn't have been fired either.



This would be dramatic. Mickey just this weekend passed Jeff Torborg in the Mets all-time games managed list, so if he goes, he wouldn't have the shortest non-interim tenure, but it would be damn close.



Five more games and he passes Joe Frazier, and six more and he passes George Bamberger. And, as young as he is, he'd possibly have a longer post-tenure life than Jimmy Carter or Joe Torre.

[ashie62]

Yet another bump

[MFS62]

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[Frayed Knot]

Edgy MD wrote: Callaway safe ... https://www.yahoo.com/sports/sources-mets-manager-mickey-callaway-safe-through-the-weekend-015414187.htmlthrough the weekend.

Whether Callaway gets fired tomorrow, next week, or never, that article is a mess of conjecture and just plain bad writing.

[Edgy MD]

Maybe, but Ehalt's a five-year veteran of the Mets beat and he says he has sources confirming the lede.

[Frayed Knot]

His "team sources" are used to say that:

- Callaway "won't be fired this weekend" ... which I guess means today.

Well, shyeeet, I could have told you that.



- and that his moves "cause eyes to be rolled in the clubhouse"

Were there eyewitnesses to this eye-rolling? And how large a factor of eye-rolling was there (computed as ER+ perhaps?) as compared to those clubhouses where every player loves every move the manager

makes including the ones that reduce his playing time?

[G-Fafif]

At the top of the broadcast, Howie addressed what he called the near "tangible" tension around Callaway's status, added that when you've been around a ballclub, you can tell these things are percolating and suggested that without winning a whole lot soon, Mickey's in real danger.

[Edgy MD]

There you go. Tangible tension.

[A Boy Named Seo]

I started this stupid thread, but despite Mickey's shortcomings, this is a flawed team constructed by negligent ownership and an inexperienced GM who mortgaged the future to be mediocre NOW!!! Mickey ain't the the reason.

[nymr83]

Edgy MD wrote: There you go. Tangible tension.

That what they said about the Jets...



Do we have to wait until todays game ends to fire him?

[Frayed Knot]

Tangible Tension = It's being talked about because it's being talked about.

[Johnny Lunchbucket]

Would be funny to see him start getting hugs in the dugout

[TransMonk]

A Boy Named Seo wrote: I started this stupid thread, but despite Mickey's shortcomings, this is a flawed team constructed by negligent ownership and an inexperienced GM who mortgaged the future to be mediocre NOW!!! Mickey ain't the the reason.

He's certainly not helping, though.



Terry Collins seemed to do more with less.

[bmfc1]

My guess is that Riggleman will be the interim manager tomorrow night. Mickey is a good man who shouldn't have been hired--that's on Sandy who brought in someone with no managerial experience (neither did Alex Cora who managed BOS to the World Series but at least he was a bench coach so he saw the whole game). This is on Brodie Van Ego who had no GM experience (notice a pattern?), brought in numerous former clients, then declared victory in December. He also saddled Mickey with Chilli Davis who had been fired by the Cubs--perhaps there were good reasons for his firing. BTW, Chaim Bloom was the runner-up for the GM spot. He's still with the Rays who are 27 & 16 and that's on Jeffy. What a clusterfuck.

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[nymr83]

its not too late! fire the player agent masquerading as a GM too!



the Mets could still have some life in them this season! time to blossom with new leadership!

[MFS62]

I hope that new manager brings a new batting coach with him. (or a few hitters) (or both)

Later

[Frayed Knot]

So which one of us is assigned to be up and poised by their keyboard at 2 AM to post the news of the firing?

That is when they do these things, right?

[MFS62]

Whatever and whenever that post may be, there will be one person who posts it again as their own.

Later

[ashie62]

The idea of Riggleman as the interim guy blows

[kcmets]

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Whatever and whenever that post may be, there will be one person who posts it again as their own.

Later

[MFS62]

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Whatever and whenever that post may be, there will be one person who posts it again as their own.

Later

[kcmets]

Lol, I didn't think it was me.

[Edgy MD]

Ten million hot takes out there right now.

[Edgy MD]

“I respect the hell out of Mickey. Mickey has tremendous leadership values. I think it's bullshit what's going on with this speculation there could be a change because we're so early in the season — we're a very small step away from putting this all together.” — Noah Syndergaard



Noah also asks us to remember 2015.



Hey, Callaway's name is mis-spelled in this thread.

[Lefty Specialist]

They're also a very small step from this blowing up and disintegrating.

[Centerfield]

Let's see what we learned in 2015:



*Half measures don't work. It was a mistake to sign Michael Cuddyer. But here we in 2019 with Robinson Cano. And Todd Frazier..and Jason Vargas...and....



*If you have an elite hitting prospect, he can come up and help save your season. Even if he's young and not yet played at AAA. Let's call up Kelenic.



*So can elite pitching prospects. We seem to be missing these.



*When you acquire elite MVP level talent, you score runs and win games.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Edgy MD wrote: I totally would. And you check all their boxes. You have no experience, no other options, no leverage and nobody else would want you. The perfect vehicle to receive all of Jeff's tantrums and nutty egomaniacal ideas.

Know what other Mets box you check? The willing to work for no money box. The miser Mets made Mickey the 26th ranked manager by salary.



All the headaches of managing in America's biggest market but without any of the benefits Mickey should rightfully expect. The Mets haven't hired a good manager in more than 20 years. Don't expect another one anytime soon.



Two first place finishes and one good manager since eff Wilpon took over almost 30 years qgo.





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