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2019 Hall of Fame ballot

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2019 Hall of Fame ballot  

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  1. 1. 2019 Hall of Fame ballot

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      22
    • Rick Ankiel (first year)
      0
    • Jason Bay (first year)
      0
    • Lance Berkman (first year)
      3
    • Barry Bonds (7th year, 56.4% in 2018)
      13
    • Roger Clemens (7th year, 57.3%)
      8
    • Freddy Garcia (first year)
      0
    • Jon Garland (first year)
      0
    • Travis Hafner (first year)
      0
    • Roy Halladay (first year)
      16
    • Todd Helton (first year)
      7
    • Andruw Jones (2nd year, 7.3%)
      4
    • Jeff Kent (6th year, 14.5%)
      9
    • Ted Lilly (first year)
      0
    • Derek Lowe (first year)
      0
    • Edgar Martinez (10th year, 70.4%)
      12
    • Fred McGriff (10th year, 23.2%)
      3
    • Mike Mussina (6th year, 63.5%)
      11
    • Darren Oliver (first year)
      0
    • Roy Oswalt (first year)
      1
    • Andy Pettitte (first year)
      0
    • Juan Pierre (first year)
      0
    • Placido Polanco (first year)
      0
    • Manny Ramirez (3rd year, 22%)
      11
    • Mariano Rivera (first year)
      18
    • Scott Rolen (2nd year, 10.2%)
      3
    • Curt Schilling (6th year, 51.2%)
      10
    • Gary Sheffield (5th year, 11.1%)
      4
    • Sammy Sosa (7th year, 7.8%)
      3
    • Miguel Tejada (first year)
      1
    • Omar Vizquel (2nd year, 37.1%)
      6
    • Billy Wagner (4th year, 11.1%)
      4
    • Larry Walker (9th year, 34.1%)
      15
    • Vernon Wells (first year)
      0
    • Kevin Youkilis (first year)
      0
    • Michael Young (first year)
      0

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bmfc1

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Holy crap, it's gonna be a Rivera suck-fest when the votes are announced and again at induction. Neither side of the newspaper is going to be safe for viewing.


Guest Mets Willets Point

Guest Mets Willets Point

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Shoot, I overlooked Larry Walker. Although I don't know who I would drop if I did a revote. I need 11 votes!


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dinosaur jesus

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Gonna have to abstain. If I voted, I'd have to include Curt Schilling, and I don't want to vote for Curt Schilling. That gets me out of voting for Mussina and Pettitte too. Wish I could vote for Manny. Halladay too, but he probably won't need my help.


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Mex17

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Halladay. Mariano. Schilling.

On edit: Should have voted Vizquel too. 11 Gold Gloves should get you in if you can hit even decently. My bad. Next year.


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MFS62 wrote:
If Ozzie is in, so should Omar be in. He was Ozzie without the backflips.
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Omar hit the same as Ozzie... only he did it during a much, much, MUCH more robust offensive era. So... not quite the same.

Bonds
Clemens
Halladay
Kent
Martinez
Ramirez
Rivera
Schilling


Guest 41Forever

Guest 41Forever

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Between the juicers and Yankees, this is a tough ballot. Maybe a good one for Edgar, who topped 70 percent last year and doesn’t face as much of a logjam as in years past.

Martinez
Schilling
Halladay
Walker
Helton
Messina
Rolen
Vizquel


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bmfc1

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I hate this group. No to Rivera just to be a "first-ballot" dick. He can sit by the pool for a year. Yes to Edgar Martinez (DH is a position--it's a stupid position but it counts), Mike Mussina and Jeff Kent.


MFS62 First Round Pick

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SteveJRogers wrote:
MFS62 wrote:
I've never heard of anyone called "Buster" who had any credibility.
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Keaton?
;)

Nahhh. The guy was a real clown.
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MFS62 wrote:
If Ozzie is in, so should Omar be in. He was Ozzie without the backflips.
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Vizquel was a heckuva fielder, and I booed to see an All-Star Game with a shortstop-filled AL roster, which Torre responded to by moving Vizquel to second, and keeping Jeter at short, but I don't think Vizquel was Smith's equal, on offense or defense.


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bmfc1 wrote:
He can sit by the pool for a year.


Just make sure he switches off the electric security system first.


MFS62 First Round Pick

MFS62

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Mets Willets Point wrote:
bmfc1 wrote:
He can sit by the pool for a year.


Just make sure he switches off the electric security system first.

BAM!
(or should we say "ZAP!"?)

As for the Omar/ Ozzie comparison. Ozzie may not have been as good as Ozzie (nobody has ever been), but he was the best defensive shortstop in the American League while Ozzie performed his magic in the NL. And as long as baseball players have to wear a glove, IMO his superiority over his peers for an extended period of time is what the HOF is all about.

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Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket

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I skipped over Halladay on first go-thru with intentions to look him up.

He's in, and in easily.
--2 Cy Youngs, 5 top-5 CYs
--8 ASGs
--wins and losses "mean nothing" but a .659 winning percentage, 20th all-time, amazin in this era for a starter
--not a HUGE strikeout guy, but excellent control


Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket

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I can't edit my votes?


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Frayed Knot

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I guess the only potential knock on Halladay was his short-ish prime.
Called up at age 21 but didn't break through until age 26. Then, after a brief stumble, was great for a string but had his final good season at age 34 after only eight total seasons as a full-time starter (30+ starts)
plus just two other seasons of over 20

Helluva prime though.


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seawolf17

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Halladay was, for a stretch, one of the best, if not the best, starter in baseball.

I like B-R's "MVP Shares" and "Cy Young Shares" listings, because although those awards may be flawed, they do tell you something. And Halladay is 10th in all-time Cy Young Shares:

1. Roger Clemens (7 wins) 7.66
2. Randy Johnson* (5 wins) 6.50
3. Greg Maddux* (4 wins) 4.92
4. Clayton Kershaw (3 wins) 4.56
5. Steve Carlton* (4 wins) 4.29
6. Pedro Martinez* (3 wins) 4.26
7. Tom Seaver* (3 wins) 3.85
8. Max Scherzer (3 wins) 3.73
9. Jim Palmer* (3 wins) 3.57
10. Roy Halladay (2 wins) 3.50
11. Justin Verlander (1 win) 3.40
12. Tom Glavine* (2 wins) 3.15
13. Sandy Koufax* (3 wins) 3.05

I hate Clemens and didn't vote for him here because of that, but he should probably be in. Kershaw will be in some day, and Scherzer and Verlander are going to have really compelling cases too.

(This list does, admittedly, fall apart a bit with multiple winners Johan Santana, Corey Kluber, and Bret Saberhagen 14th, 15th, and 17th, respectively.)


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I'm a rather stingy HOF voter. I went with Rivera, Walker, and Helton (I know his numbers are inflated from a career in Colorado's thin are, but they are still damn good numbers). I was on the fence on Halladay and to an even lesser degree Bergman. Probably should have given the nod to Halladay.


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yes:
Bonds
Clemens
Halladay
E.Martinez [on edit]
Mussina
M.Ramirez
Rivera
Schilling
Sosa
Walker

[yikes! what a class of A-holes, Roiders and Yankmees!]

maybe/borderline:
Helton
Rolen
Wagner

probably not:
Berkman
Jones
Kent
McGriff
Pettitte
Sheffield
M.Tejada
Vizquel

no:
Ankiel
Bay
F.Garcia
Garland
Hafner
Lowe
Oswalt
Pierre
polanco
V.wells
Youklis
M.Young


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Guest 86-Dreamer

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Bonds
Clemens
Halladay
Andruw
Helton
Musssina
Rivera
Rolen
Schilling
Walker


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batmagadanleadoff

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Vic Sage wrote:
yes:
Bonds
Clemens
Halladay
Mussina
M.Ramirez
Rivera
Schilling
Sosa
Walker

[yikes! what a class of A-holes, Roiders and Yankmees!]

maybe/borderline:
Helton
Rolen
Wagner

probably not:
Berkman
Jones
Kent
McGriff
Pettitte
Sheffield
M.Tejada
Vizquel

no:
Ankiel
Bay
F.Garcia
Garland
Hafner
Lowe
Oswalt
Pierre
polanco
V.wells
Youklis
M.Young


Undecided on Martinez?


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