Let's huddle here and talk... Syndergaard

[Mex17]

A Boy Named Seo wrote: Let it be known that I do not want to trade Noah Syndergaard, but Mets are apparently GOING FOR IT and Ken Rosenthal sez Thor is next outta town so WATP right here righ tnow. San Diego sends the Mets Manuel Margot, Francisco Mejia and McKenzie Gore for Noah Syndergaard and Kevin Plawecki. Pads get their young affordable ace and a catcher who can play every day if Hedges can't hit. The Mets then offer Margot to Cleveland along with Travis d'Arnaud, current #1 prospect Andres Gimenez and BIG DAWG TODD FRAZIER for Corey Kluber and Yan Gomes! The Indians will want more, so I'll add current #5 prospect Franklyn Kilome (the dude we got for Asdrubal) and they'll think about it for a long, hard minute before accepting the offer. Kluber is awesome but making $17M this year, so Cleveland gets younger, saves ~$11M in this trade and fills immediate needs at catcher and the outfield, plus they have a one-year stop-gap at third in case Yandy Diaz isn't any ready or isn't very good. Superstar Jose Ramirez doesn't have the body for 2nd base, so he can slide to third next year and Gimenez can play second if he's ready. Kilome was at AA last year so might get a call-up as soon as this season. Indians are re-loading! The Mets rotation led by deGrom, Kluber and Wheeler is still excellent, with Gomes a solid replacement at catcher, and McNeil slotting in at third. Despite losing 2 more prospects, the quality at the top of the farm might be better with Gore and Mejia the new #1 and #2 prospects with Alonso knocking on the door. I HAVE TO GO ADD FAKE GM TO MY LINKDIN PROFILE NOW GUYS. I WILL MISS U, NOAH SYNDERGAARD

I don't see why the Mets would make the San Diego trade or why the Indians would make the other trade.

-First off, Kilome is out for the entire season with TJ Surgery.
-Second, I cannot see what the bait is for Cleveland to part with Kluber. Gimenez? Not for Kluber. Margot? He must be some sort of defensive whiz because I do not see what his appeal is from the offensive stats. Frazier? You rate him waaayyyy higher than I do.
-Third (and most importantly), there is NO FUCKING WAY that I move Syndergaard to the Padres unless I am getting Tatis Jr back in the deal! Offer me Tatis, Mejia, and Paddack (or Morejon) and then I will talk. I'll even put McNeil in that trade.

Edited November 30, 2018 by Guest

[A Boy Named Seo]

:'-(

[Mex17]

Seriously. Syndergaard and McNeil for Tatis, Mejia, and either Paddack or Morejon.

[Mex17]

Here is one so crazy it just might work. . .

Syndergaard and Rosario to Houston for Correa and Forrest Whitley.

I think that it could make sense for the Astros because they are more than covered from the right hand side with Altuve, Bregman, Springer, and Guerriel. Plus, Rosario is righthanded too (albeit less established in the majors when compared to the aforementioned four). They need MLB established pitching because they are losing Keuchel and Morton. Verlander/Cole/Syndergaard would be pretty formidable.

For the Mets, you get the established and controllable righhanded stick they need (at a position that is far away from the outfield so Cespedes is not blocked if he actually comes back). Then they go out and sign Eovaldi/Happ/Gio/whoever.

Whitley, from the site that I am using, is Houtson's #2 prospect. He is #8 in the Top 100 and the #1 RHP prospect. That, to me, sounds comparible to where Rosaio ranked right before he graduated to the majors.

Syndergaard and Correa each have three years of team control left. Correa's off year might be a bit of a concern though.

Edited December 3, 2018 by Guest

[A Boy Named Seo]

I vote "yay". Gotta believe Houston would blink first, but an excellent WATP just the same.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Mets appear to commit to Noah Syndergaard, who’s thrilled

Greg Joyce, New York Post wrote: Van Wagenen said the Mets’ “chips are in” to win now and that it would take “very special circumstances for us to even consider” trading Syndergaard, who has three years left on his contract.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Mets appear to commit to Noah Syndergaard, who’s thrilled Greg Joyce, New York Post wrote: Van Wagenen said the Mets’ “chips are in” to win now and that it would take “very special circumstances for us to even consider” trading Syndergaard, who has three years left on his contract.

ZACK WHEELER HUGWATCH ON!!!!

[Centerfield]

Latest rumors talk of Syndergaard to the Yankees.

Hey shittiest offseason ever. Let’s cut it out.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

OH FUCK NO

[G-Fafif]

Unfounded theory: Syndergaard was Alderson's savviest get, therefore J. Wilpon, who always resented the GM (who in turn barely concealed his contempt for the COO), relishes the idea of undoing Sandy's handiwork.

[batmagadanleadoff]

G-Fafif wrote: [Alderson] ...who ... barely concealed his contempt for the COO....

What's this all about? I can't believe I missed this. Not that I doubt it.

[Mex17]

https://nypost.com/2018/12/10/yankees-mets-have-discussed-three-way-realmuto-blockbuster/

"Any such deal involving Syndergaard would almost certainly have to bring the Mets another starting player in addition to Realmuto."


Who could that be? From the Yankees?

[metsmarathon]

[Gif of Michael Scott shouting “no” a bunch of times]

[dgwphotography]

G-Fafif wrote: Unfounded theory: Syndergaard was Alderson's savviest get, therefore J. Wilpon, who always resented the GM (who in turn barely concealed his contempt for the COO), relishes the idea of undoing Sandy's handiwork.

I’m sticking with the theory that BVW knows something about Noah that we don’t, and that something is the reason he’s shopping him.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Mike Puma wrote: There have been discussions, a source confirms, on a potential 3-way trade between the Mets, Yankees and Marlins that would bring J.T. Realmuto to Flushing and could send Noah Syndergaard to the Bronx.

Geez, are we going to have to merge the Syndergaard and Realmuto threads?

Ken Rosenthal wrote: #Mets discussing multiple two- and three-team scenarios involving Realmuto and others, sources say. Team continues to place premium on their SP; would move Syndergaard only for big return. Tyson Ross signed today for $5.75M. Syndergaard will not cost much more in 2019.

[seawolf17]

ARGH.

[bigpurple:tch3d4h3]FOR FUCK'S SAKE, METS. NO.[/bigpurple:tch3d4h3]

[Benjamin Grimm]

[Benjamin Grimm]

Andy Martino wrote: Source: Noah Syndergaard to Yankees is a real possibility but there are “10 other scenarios” Mets are considering

I don't know what those ten other scenarios are, but I like them all better than this one.

[MFS62]

JT has two more years on his contract, Thor has three. After that, who would be the catcher for the Mets? (if they can't re-sign him?) The organization is thin at that position.
But, if the deal involves moving Frazier and one corner outfielder and getting JT and Andujar (and getting a starter in a separate deal or free agency), I'd be willing to listen.
And worry about who catches in two years.

Later

[Centerfield]

This is what happens when you allow the Mets to be viewed as "aggressive" without actually spending money.

Stupid, foolish moves will be made in the name of a BOLD AND CREATIVE AND AGGRESSIVE APPROACH!!!

Jeff Wilpon views trades as a way to public acceptance without opening up the wallet.

[Edgy MD]

If they get the deal they want, I don’t particularly care who catches in 2021.

You can’t solve all problems at once. You can only hope to solve more than you create.

[MFS62]

Edgy MD wrote: If they get the deal they want, I don’t particularly care who catches in 2021. You can’t solve all problems at once. You can only hope to solve more than you create.

Totally agree.
And, about these rumors being reported - Just because they get paid to write this stuff doesn't mean it can't be the most "W" of WATPs, or that it won't happen.

Later

[seawolf17]

Edgy MD wrote: If they get the deal they want, I don’t particularly care who catches in 2021. You can’t solve all problems at once. You can only hope to solve more than you create.

But when one of the problems you create is "your fans hate you because you've traded one of their favorite players to the fucking Yankees," that's a hole that's pretty damn hard to fill.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Hopefully if they do complete a trade for Realmuto, it will come with a negotiating window to see if he'll sign an extension. And even if it doesn't, they can still negotiate an extension after the deal is complete.

I'd still much prefer them to sign Grandal or Ramos (reports are that the Mets met with Ramos yesterday) but if we do get Realmuto, I want them to be able to keep him for more than two years.

[Centerfield]

If I could pick any pitcher in baseball to slot in behind Jacob deGrom, there are few I would pick over Noah Syndergaard. And I get that there is a good deal of Mets bias in here, but if you factor in everything. Performance, age, talent, salary, years of control, stuff, upside. The guy had a 3.03 ERA in a down year.

Fuck everyone.

You can make a case for Blake Snell. Or Aaron Nola. That's about it.

Not Patrick Corbin, or Zack Grienke, or even Cory Fucking Kluber. Scherzer for Syndergaard straight up? Nope.

We're talking about trading Noah Syndergaard for a guy who isn't even in the top 40 in OPS. Holy fuck guys.

[metsmarathon]

I really don’t want to have to go out and buy a yankee hat for ummL.

Don’t make me do it Brodie. Don’t you fucking make me do it.

I’m not a yankee fan, but I don’t think there’s anyone on their roster that they wouldn’t be happy to let go in order to get Thor back. Because there’s really nobody there that I’d rather have.

Clearly this is all emotion talking. Severino plus andujar? Sure. That’s some good value (that I just pulled out of my ass. .) But I still don’t want it.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Well, from what we're hearing, whoever the "someone" is that the Yankees would be giving up would be going to Miami. It would be Realmuto coming to the Mets.

[Edgy MD]

Well, the Mets would have to get more than that. And the more might come from Bronxland.

[Centerfield]

My proposed Three Team Trade:

Mets: Keep Noah Syndergaard

Yankees: Go fuck themselves.

Marlins: Who fucking cares.

[Edgy MD]

I'd like to see the pot sweetened before I pull the trigger on that, to mix a metaphor. I'm holding out until The Marlins fuck themselves too.

Did you see where Randy Levine was on the president's emergency shortlist for chief of staff candidates? HA-HA!