Ceetar

There's no such thing as a "Yankee thread" on a Mets forum. Everything is a baseball topic through a Mets lens, and my lens is "Fuck Roger Maris and Aaron Judge, Barry Bonds hit 73 in fewer PA"

who cares about the Yankees*?

=kcmets post_id=110047 time=1664996261 user_id=53] Good for Judge, got nothing against him except he reminds me of Lurch. But fuck Michael Kay, and him getting to put his parasitic stamp on such a big moment in our New York lives. It's been Maris my whole life, now it's Judge (and Kay.) Yuck, I need to go use some Purell...

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=110031 time=1664991572 user_id=68] I love their new uniforms.

=smg58 post_id=110025 time=1664989499 user_id=62] You have to admit the mistake on the Ruf deal. The Mets went from being overly aggressive on getting relievers under van Wegenen to not being nearly aggressive enough. Relievers are easy to find and cheap at the deadline, but they just haven't been enough of a priority.

I've been harping on this since BEFORE the deadline (and they blew last year's too). So putting aside that they were favored to win the division both years and _didn't_, let's specifically talk about the deadline. Givens was a good pickup. They needed relievers. They probably needed one more. They needed offense, specifically, they needed power. We see how the Mets go when their boppers aren't bopping. Daniel Vogelbach, Naquin, Ruf, etc have very specific use cases where you can maximize what's mostly 1-tool. J.D. Davis, was, and is, the better _ballplayer_ and to me, you always try to have the better ballplayer, with exceptions for being blocked, getting more versatile and flexible with lineups and playing time, which isn't something that platoon players generally give you. Granted, Davis is poor defensively, but that wasn't really what the issue was. The Mets wouldn't have wanted to move Escobar to second to play Davis at third and McNeil in the OF when Marte went down, but it's probably better _offensively_ than using Guillorme as much as they did. And I don't want to denigrate Luis too much, because he did well! but he has like negative power and lack of power was one of the Mets issues. (Davis would've been second on the team since the deadline in HR) And then there is catcher. Whatever lies we want to tell about McCann being somehow key for a rotation of veterans, he can't hit. Nido also can't hit. No one can hit. Álvarez, can probably hit. Wilson Contreras, can hit. Some other type of move that might've been out there, also probably better than McCann. It boils down to the Mets deciding they were "good enough". Getting platoon guys and pinch runners are playoff-shoring up moves, not 'try to win as many second half games as possible' moves. The Mets should've been the better team. But, granted, thanks to above average player development and trust in rookies, Atlanta is typically underrated. the _Mets_ though, should've known this. The signs were there that despite 'talent' and 'projections' suggesting the Mets were the better team and they'd just have to play normally to win the division, they might actually have to step it up and not coast.... ...unless you're okay with simply a wild card berth. So either the Mets were fine losing the bye, or they mis-evaluated the needs of the team and the strength of the competition. So in some sense, they absolutely blew the trade deadline.

Give me all your San Diego Hate here! start with the garbage weather. No snow, no comfortable fall days where you can sip cider outside without sweating..

It amuses me that they're pretending it's over too, pulled him from the game. No desire to try to climb the list at all. (he also has like a billion more PA than McGwire or Bonds)

7th! In Yankee Stadium! With a billion plate appearances!

I mean, that differential is too distinct for something that might not even add value (And might not have for the Astros either) It's clearly something more like they're pumping toxic gas into the visitor's clubhouse.

=Centerfield post_id=109852 time=1664904442 user_id=65] Also, I've decided that the Braves are clearly cheating.

net-more games. over all, you make the playoffs more, more games. And now there's that failsafe, which the Mets are using this year, of still getting 2+ home games but not winning the division, where previously Maybe it's 1 depending on record. And of course the residual boost of ticket sales for more teams still being "in it" and the associated TV revenue of more televised relevant games. I mean, that's most of it. They were pretty crystal clear that they were adding teams because someone was giving them money to air them. They were going to go further too, for even more money, if i recall, but i think the playoffs vetoed 14? for now. Plus it makes the NLDS a "second round" meaning you can charge second round prices.

Again, the majority of the money from playoff ticket sales does to the Players' pool, not ownership. The Mets and Cohen would be much happier as division winners with better odds of going deep into the playoffs, full stop. The benefits they reap from that are far greater than a couple extra games' worth of parking and concession revenue. there's value in winning the World Series, sure, but i'm not sure there is a meaningful difference otherwise. The difference between losing in the NLDS and the NLCS for instance, is probably negligible in terms of 2023 projected attendance and advertising pitches. particularly if you let certain stars walk. This is why so many, most, teams are happy to just coast in, add playoff teams, not go big at the deadline, play the "this is a value move for the long term!" line for draft pick failures. I don't think the majority of the revenue goes into the "players pool", you have a source for that?

it's the same amount of home games, what do you mean? one playoff game is worth like what, dozens of regular season games, plus you only have to pay the employees once. plus 50-60 a car. Teams make bank on playoff games. They don't particularly care about regular season games though. most of that revenue comes from TV and such. But what's the average ticket price? 150? two WC home games is like $12m just in ticket sales.

And we don't know how much he's gonna take the leash off of Eppler, and how much micro managing he's going to do, or if/when they replace Sandy and how that person is involved..

booby prizes!

my 90+ vote counted postseason innings.

basically meaningless games now, so just can 'em if it rains.

Mets guaranteed 2 home games either way, and actually there are more potential home games via this path. Cohen must be happy.

Willets Point wrote: The people who bought an ad on a national broadcast against Stacy Abrams are complaining that she's bankrolled by out-of-state interests. I think they're just upset she's black. this is a standard complaint in states outside NY/CA/TX/FL about any candidate with lots of funds raised. nothing racist there. the rest of the ad was more specific. And that's obviously above and beyond that the entire national republican platform is racism and misogyny, so when your platform is racist, and you run an attack ad against a black woman..i mean..

Willets Point wrote: The people who bought an ad on a national broadcast against Stacy Abrams are complaining that she's bankrolled by out-of-state interests. I think they're just upset she's black.

why would they care about pitching him? He'll be someone else's problem before overuse would catch up to him.

"we can whine about the reliever choices but I'm not sure I'd have been happy w/Buck had we burned top relievers in a game we were only on the fringes of being in." It was only 3 to 1 when Megill came in to audition for a post-season roster spot instead of May. If Naquin had somehow singled and they lost 5 to 3 those 2 runs would have been the difference. Also if they hold that lead, the tying run(s) are on base for Escobar, and maybe Jansen is just ever so slightly more walk-adverse and leaves one just a little bit more hittable and Escobar does in fact, hit it.

=Gwreck post_id=109246 time=1664580829 user_id=56] =Ceetar post_id=109243 time=1664580587 user_id=102]Britton is not prone to anything, it's hard to find a blander beat writer.