There's also a lack of true understanding of leverage. It's not just using your "relief ace" in a tie game on the road, but maybe using him in the 8th if the heart of the lineup is up and let your second or third best guy face the bottom of the order in the 9th. And of course, it's easier to not lose a game when you have a 1+ run lead than it is in the tie game, so let your best reliever pitch the 9th anyway and have the lesser guys get the save later on with a little more cushion. also, your best reliever should probably be pitching when you're one run down in the 9th at home too. John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I think what I'm saying is, roles could still evolve but it would take more than just a manager to accomplish this. There's certainly some validity to this, at least in the sense of getting prepared. Closers sorta build themselves up and time their warmups towards the 9th inning. They're perhaps the only reliever (at least, before 8th inning and 7th inning guys) that have the time of their entry more or less set. If you unleashed them early, they'd have to be prepared early. Or be able to get ready faster. Or have to stay ready to go or almost ready to go throughout a long extra innings bout. There's also the idea of saving your bullets. You don't want to be burning out your best guys in tie games or down a run and ultimately lose, and not have him for the close wins because he's tired, or he's less effective. It's a constant balance of risk/reward and the reward for pitching down 1 in the ninth or in the 10th inning of a tie game often can feel like it's not worth it, so managers adhere to a set of rules because they've been taught that it's the way to do things, and keeps your relievers mostly available when you want them most.