Ceetar

seeds of life is a final fourer imo. Gotta revel in the Wright moments. "Out of Control" with Colon basically doing a ball control trick is ridiculous.

oh god those were bad. en gaard and power restored for Curtis' goofiness.

And don't forget nothing the Mets/Alderson say publicly is their deepest held beliefs. In all likelihood, Sandy WOULD have preferred a different answer than Cespedes, but it didn't present itself. (The same case can be made this year) It's all part of negotiating. "Hey, here's a serious issue that we'd like to address that you don't fill. That's why you're not worth X"

Centerfield wrote: So, Lugo for closer. What do you guys think? I think it can work. You guys should all get high on Lugo. Lugo for regular 3-IP long man.

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Ceetar wrote: Looking forward to all the garbage stupid headlines these rags produced this year. You're always the turd in the punch bowl, aren't you? Maybe. Or maybe I'm just a different beverage at a different table. I'm interested to see what they turned out this year, but it's a lot like picking the silliest WFAN trade proposal.

Looking forward to all the garbage stupid headlines these rags produced this year.

Benjamin Grimm wrote: I think I read that Joe Buck offered to step aside for Vin Scully, but Scully declined. I'll have to see if I can find a link. ON EDIT: http://www.americansportscastersonline.com/buckscullyworldseries.html Doesn't mean Fox would've let him. Hell, the power went out and Fox wouldn't even let Matt Vasgersian and Smoltz lead the show last year during the WS.

TransMonk wrote: I've watched about 15 total minutes of this series. I honestly cannot take Joe Buck anymore...he gets worse every year. I will find a pirated international feed when the Mets make it back to the WS. Smoltz is fine, but it is all consumed by how horrible Buck is. no, you'll mute it and put on the radio.

*psst* he's retired.

Edgy MD wrote: It's important to remember he didn't really put up MVP-type numbers, and he wasn't particularly close. He was 53rd in fWar, for instance. Guys ahead of him included Odubel Herrera and Charlie Blackmon, Cesar Hernandez and D.J. LeMahieu. He was "in the conversation" offensively, but I definitely don't think the Mets should punt defense. especially with no defense anywhere.

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: This articlekind of approaches the whole "all reliever staff" from a different angle than I would have -- it argues the advantage would be almost all offense (pinch-hitting) and basically neutral on defense. I'm skeptical of the latter claim. In practice it'd be very difficult to pull off and would almost require a GM + manager prepared to get themselves fired and team that otherwise is confronting a season in the basement. Maybe its tested secretly in the minors first. It's neat. and he also suggests maybe you have your Ace still pitch on rotation and bat, it's the lesser guys. Think of it like taking away the third (and second) time through the order penalty. All the guys you typically think of as being 5+ IP guys are suddenly elite relievers. It's not like you're giving these innings to garbage middle relief guys. You're taking the 'best' 100 of Dillon Gee's 150 innings. I actually think he understates the value added and doesn't really follow through on the math. I'd like to remove the innings pitched by Verrett the second and third time through, remove Bastardo and gilmartin's innings and replace them with Verrett's first time through wOBA and say..Smyly's. Oh, if I had the time I'd like to write this up for the Mets. I think he also underestimates the value of the pinch-hitters. You'd be able to rest guys and still get them one given AB, or guys that are aching would still be able to at least get an AB every day. I think this pushes the expected value of those AB higher.

he means the Coke corner. Not sure what Phil did to deserve that.

Centerfield wrote: Wait, so the Mets blog says there is talk in Tampa of the trade. And the Tampa blog says there are rumors in New York. Thereby, in essence, making both blog writers correct. Funny world we live in. My restriction to actual news sites was with the idea that there is some editorial control on these sites. Maybe I'm wrong. Anyway, it was just meant to be for fun. We spent whole threads last winter discussing players with as little to suggest they'd be Mets as Heyman seeing him on line with Sandy Alderson once at the Winter Meetings, I feel like if you/we see something we want to b.s. about, might as well post it.

Frayed Knot wrote: And just to show how quickly these things can escalate, I saw a NYM-related blog in the last day or so (and now can't remember where) which, obviously working off that original Rays piece (not to be confused with a slice from 'Original Ray's'), said that the Mets 'were in discussions with' (or wording along those lines) the Rays involving a trade for Drew Smyly and the two players involved. That was Mets Blog actually, calling it Rays fan and FanSided author Althea Pashman says there is talk in Tampa that the Mets and Yankees may have interest in trading for left-handed starting pitcher Drew Smyly. Pashman does in fact say Via the rumor mill, both New York teams are showing interest in Smyly’s services and each could provide the Rays some of the pieces that Silverman has on his shopping list. I'm not sure how reputable 'the rumor mill' is or what he means by that. As far as blog standards go though, if you were going to make one presumably you'd includes ones that are on a Fox Sports website.

Benjamin Grimm wrote: But CF's guideline for this thread was to leave out private blogs, which have a much higher stupid quotient. I disagree, I think non-sourced discussions have a much higher stupid quotient, it's just that the credentialed folks are often citing "someone mentioned this guy in connection with the Mets" as a basis for a story more than making stuff up themselves, but once they do it's often as ridiculous, or worse, than your average blogger. Just avoid the WFAN type blogs and you'll be fine.

Too bad you don't have them on 5¼-inch floppies. Now those were floppy! And as for that Rays "rumor" about Smyly, Centerfield posted a link to Fox Sports, which is a "real" site, it was actually lifted from a fan site called "Rays Colored Glasses", which I would figure has a bit less credibility. http://rayscoloredglasses.com/2016/10/24/tampa-bay-rays-rumors-mets-yankees-smyly/ the actual recorded media was always floppy. It's not lifted as much as cross-posted. But as long as we're going to talk about stupid non-sourced proposals, there's really no need to differentiate being blogger and credentialed writer.

he didn't get a 5 year deal last year and he's a year older and dealt with injuries. He put up an arguably worse, if slightly, year than 2015. Still a nice year, but still.

Looks like the strikezone was pretty good.

HahnSolo wrote: WOR to rebroadcast the radio call of Game 7 on Thursday evening. http://710wor.iheart.com/onair/new-york-mets-52984/710-wor-will-rebroadcast-1986-world-15238111/?partnerId=as_nym_20161026_67237096&adbid=10157701614330078&adbpl=fb&adbpr=94421890077 you linked the internet, but I don't think the Internet feed was rebroadcasting it last time.

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I'm off the Edgin Bandwagon myself. Not that he matters a whole lot either way, just seems like one of those guys who's destined to be a lefthanded journeyman, beginning his journey. I'm not necessarily on it, but his raise is basically nothing. Unless the Mets make a ton of moves and need the roster space, I doubt he's non-tendered.

d'Kong76 wrote: Current range of Game #3 tickets at Wrigley on StubHub is $1,908 - $13,011. I regret I only entered the Cubs lottery 10 times. (although I didn't get the rejection for WS yet, only the one for the NLCS)

If I had to wager, I'd probably wager on Cespedes being worth more in 2020 than Conforto. Though I don't think the Mets are going to sign Cespedes, nor should they, for 4-5 years. The probability that Cespedes is better than Conforto, and Nimmo, and Bucerra in 2019 is even better. I'd really like Yoenis back but I do think there are other + guys they can get, and I'm a little concerned about defense and not really having anyone that plays CF well. I'd be okay with faking it with Cespedes if the LF/RF guys were good defenders, but they're unlikely to be. The Mets defense is so bad all around.

Cubs. I like seeing the best teams win

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Yeah, I'm not worried yet. Just because no news has leaked out it doesn't mean that conversations haven't been had. There's still about another two weeks to go with the Mets having exclusive rights to Cespedes. well, sort of. Cespedes is under contract. It's all but a foregone conclusion that he's going to opt out, but it's another wrinkle in negotiation. Balls in his court so to speak.

Gwreck wrote: After being released from his contract with the Rockies and becoming a free agent, Reyes signed a minor-league contract with the Mets. Reyes' Mets contract will mirror the same length as the Rockies' contract (ie. he will not reach free agency until the end of the 2017 season, assuming the 2018 option is declined). Because it was a minor league contract that was "selected" when they called him up, the Mets must pay Reyes the major league minimum salary. Colorado is credited that amount against all other sums they owe him under the contract. To answer questions: Yes, the Mets' financial obligation will go up a little in 2017, presumably because the ML minimum salary will go up from what it was in 2016. Yes, the Mets could keep Reyes for 2018; but they'd need to be paying him $22 million for that privilege; the Rockies would not be responsible for that; only for the $4M buyout if the option was declined. Otherwise he becomes a free agent at the end of 2017. aha, I couldn't figure out out of the CBA whether or not 2016-2017 were linked in any way. It's sorta like the Mets have the contract and the Rockies are responsible for paying it. There doesn't seem anything in there about it _having_ to be ML minimum though. I wonder if a sneaky club could do something like make a trade with the Rockies and instead of sending cash and having to get MLB approval, raise the Mets portion of the Reyes contract in order to lessen the Rockies burden.