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Frayed Knot wrote: Is it my imagination or has Jeter grounded out on 3 straight first pitches tonight? I know he has at least twice. Looks like his second groundout was on a 2-2 pitch.

I'm enjoying the hell out of this. * First he bitched about how the Yankees can't hit Colby Lewis, so I pointed out that Lewis had a better 2010 than anyone on the Yankee staff not named CC or Mariano. * Then he bitched that it was only because he pitches in the worst division in the majors, at which point I reminded him about the O's and Jays. * Then he asked how many runs Lewis gave up, as though that were some indication of suck. He gave up 21 this year; less than Vazquez, Burnett, or Hughes, and only one more than Sabathia. * Then he bitched about starting Marcus Thames against a righty; only Thames was better against righties this year. * Now he's bemoaning the loss of Matsui and Damon, who apparently weren't necessary when they won 95 games this year, but all of a sudden...

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: VLAD!!!![/bigpurple] Just for today, I'm glad we didn't sign him.

What happened? I'm not watching the game, as I'm too busy noodging one of my idiotic MFY fan friends on FB.

Yeah, like Adam Dunn. Eff that guy and his 40 home runs and 100 walks pretty much every year since 2004. And Dan Haren, too. Dude strikes out in like a quarter of his ABs. And Mark Reynolds and Chris Young, who were drafted before Byrnes even got to Arizona, but we'll give him credit for them.

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: metirish wrote: seawolf17 wrote: A guy I know is friends with pro golfer Joey Sindelar, who is apparently a die-hard Mets fan. and apparently a pro golfer ka-POW! Confused.

I'll be in Stamford on October 28; I'll go to Bobby's for lunch and see if I can get a secret message to him.

A guy I know is friends with pro golfer Joey Sindelar, who is apparently a die-hard Mets fan.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: You know that supremely annoying Maddux thing where he gives hitters something to whack, only it's placed so that he can't whack it fair? Bumgartner's got that mojo working. Plus, he makes silly faces when he pitches.

metsmarathon wrote: his career WAR, per baseballreference, of 50.20 puts him 0.2 behind kevin appier, 77th among pitchers. Which answers the whole "if he pitched for the Royals" question, I guess.

Well, online. It's only in print if Lunchbucket decides to print it out and archive it in his basement. But let's get past our MFY hate for a minute and look objectively at Pettitte for a minute. * 240 wins, but admittedly, wins are a stupid stat * 3.88 career ERA, which, according to that article, would be the highest ERA in the Hall * 19-9 career postseason: once you get past the inflated era-related volume, you'll see he's "only" 5-4, 4.06 in eight Serieses. The only b-r.com metric that puts him anywhere near HOF consideration is the "HOF Monitor" metric. If his fans want to point to that stat, let's see what neighborhood Pettitte is in, shall we (throwing out pre-1900 guys): Lefty Gomez 128 (HOF) Robin Roberts 128 (HOF) Rich Gossage 126 (HOF) John Franco 124 Jack Morris 122 Andy Pettitte 122 Interesting. Gomez was a seven-time AS who won five rings. He got MVP votes four times (there was no Cy Young then), and had a pretty astounding nine year run before (I'm assuming from the way he fell off) injuries got the best of him. Even so, he never came close in regular voting until the Vets put him into the Hall in 1972. Roberts pitched nineteen seasons and was probably a no-brainer. His seven-year run from 1950-1956 put him in the ASG every year AND got him MVP votes every year; he finished in the top SEVEN five times. Elected on the fourth ballot. Gossage is a reliever, and nobody thinks John Franco is a Hall of Famer, so we'll leave them out. Morris is an annual argument, and an interesting one. Let's compare Morris and Pettitte with the two pitchers b-r says are Pettitte's closest contemporaries, David Wells and Kevin Brown. Morris: 5 ASGs, 7 top-ten CYA finishes, 5 top-25 MVP finishes, 3.90 ERA, 3 WS titles (all as staff ace, including winning 1991 clincher) Pettitte: 3 ASGs, 5 top-ten CYA finishes, 2 top-25 MVP finishes, 3.88 ERA, 5 WS titles (ace in 1996) Wells: 3 ASGs, 2 top-ten CYA finishes, 2 top-25 MVP finishes, 4.13 ERA, 2 WS titles (1992 in TOR 'pen, 1998) Brown: 6 ASGs, 5 top-ten CYA finishes, 2 top-25 MVP finishes, 3.28 ERA, 1 WS title (1997 w/Florida; he was 0-2 in two WS starts) I'm not saying Pettitte is/was a bad pitcher; not by any means. But he's not an all-time great.

Conclusive proof that if the Mets had signed Vlad Guerrero and Bengie Molina when they had the chance, and acquired quality character guys like Jeff Francoeur, that they'd be World Series-bound. Oh, wait.

Brad Clontz's wild pitch was the shakingest I ever experienced.

And Pagan is in his prime. I say trade him and get two good young players back.

Benjamin Grimm wrote: If Beltran is healthy and productive, he can probably be traded to a contender next summer. Then again, if he's healthy and productive, then maybe the Mets will be a contender and they'll want to keep him. But I can't see anyone trading for him before he takes the field again, unless they're giving up a similarly questionable $18 million player. Exactly. And not for nothing, but his combined 2009-2010 line: 156 for 528 (.295), 17 HR, 75 RBI, 14-16 SB, 33 2B, 4 3B, .384 OBP/.470 SLG. That's a 130+ OPS. You're not going to get more than that out of another team's castoff OR Duda/Pagan/etc. Beltran could/should be the guy.

HahnSolo wrote: We couldn't replace Cliff Floyd...or activate El Duque. Not that I'm bitter or anything. I'm still pissed that Willie used Floyd to pinch-hit in that spot. If I ran into Willie on the street, the first thing I'd say would be "Really? Cliff? Ugh."

Frayed Knot wrote: metirish wrote: Rays' Baldelli out of Rangers series with fatigue.......he has some sort of syndrome or malady right? You didn't used to be able to shuffle players in and out of the roster within a playoff series. Not sure when they started allowing them to do so. I also don't really like that rule because, while it's probably legit for Baldelli - yes, he's dealt for years with some sort of affliction - I can see teams abusing it just to get new players in for what they think are better matchups later on in a series. Didn't someone do that at some point in the last few years? That rule change is relatively recent, and I vaguely remember a team (the Cardinals?) making a shifty mid-series injury replacement.

Benjamin Grimm wrote: No matter the state of your bowels, all voters are appreciated! Was that a shot at the fact that I just dropped a 102-point LAXATIVE bomb on you? edit: No, wait, that was Willets.

Edgy DC wrote: Could a man have more eyebrow and still play ball? I don't think so. The answer is, of course, none... none more eyebrow.

I wanted RA Dickey to win the pitcher award because we could actually present him with a trophy and he'd be thrilled, because he seems like a really good guy. He'd probably even take pictures with it and list it on his resume.

Ashie62 wrote: Bobby V for GM, Manager and platoon Rightfielder. Good by me. I just don't see myself getting excited about a GM. Every GM with any level of experience is going to have positives and negatives on his/her record. I know it's a major decision, but I honestly don't have any particular pull towards any one candidate, unless it's Time Machine Frank Cashen.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: And that's partly due to after-the-fact/straight-from-the-box-score voting, I'd imagine. That's the biggest reason why I don't vote as much as I do. If I haven't seen some chunk of the game -- even just a few innings -- I usually don't vote because I'm afraid I'm leaving off a big double play or sac bunt (HA!) or something.

I don't understand this "winning with" thing. It's the "rationale" for trading Wright/Reyes; we're "not going to win with those guys." Why the hell not? You're not getting anything for Beltran right now in trade. So wait until spring and see what you've got; you're not going to get less out of him -- in production or trade value -- than you got in 2010. Same deal with Bay. They're on the roster next year.

I'll always like Feliciano, but I think he's outlived his usefulness. Let some other team give him a Chad Bradford deal.

I'm actually okay with Ollie as the 5 right now; I still have the tiniest bit of cahnfidence in him turning it around under a new regime. I think that if Castillo's still here, they'll keep Hernandez over Tejada and let Tejada play every day somewhere. (Forgot about Arias too, though.)