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I remember discussing 2005 as the .500liest season ever.

The only reason I could see this is if Francoeur were signed for next year and the Mets were trying to get him to turn it around, either for trade purposes or to see if he'll be part of the picture. But I don't think either of those are the case, unless he's signed to some double-secret extension they haven't told us about yet. (Which is entirely possible.)

G-Fafif wrote: metirish wrote: Mr. Koo announces his retirement in Korea. Does a Mr. Koo "announce" his retirement, or does he just stop showing up one day and after a while somebody notices? One of my all-time favorite Mets. They should bring him back as a coach.

batmagadanleadoff wrote: And what about 42? Is 42 Ron Hodges and Butch Huskey and Mo Vaughn? And then, maybe, Jackie Robinson? Is it wrong to say yes? Because to me, yes.

G-Fafif wrote: I hate to admit it, but this thread has totally put me in the mood for a shot of rum. Funny, because it's put me in the mood for one of the Captain Morgan's girls. The Captain tried to infiltrate the NFL (last year?), apparently paying players to strike the pose in an end zone celebration. The No Fun League nixed it, saying they'd fine anyone who tried it AND ban that player from sleeping with one of the Captain Morgan's girls.

The Curse isn't Cameron. It's Lastings. He was anointed as a savior, took the big important uniform number, high-fived the ballpark, and collapsed.

I rewatched that exchange on YouTube recently, and it's way worse than I remembered it. Clemens is a doosh.

Edgy DC wrote: I'm not sure what a Mongo fan is. Does that mean fans who are merely pawns in game of Life? Wikipedia says that the Mongo people are one of the largest ethnic groups in the Democratic Republic of the Congo. This guy's apparently a moron AND a racist.

Edgy DC wrote: Thanks. Senor Obvious, but I mean as a viable backup at short. Oh. Don't we still have Alex Cora? I hear he's a stellar clubhouse guy.

Edgy DC wrote: Add me to that handful. I think we're doing no favors to the Mets, Castillo, or Tejada right now. Plenty of time for Tejada to be a defensive sub in September. I get the idea, though, that nobody thinks of Turner as a viable option at short. Pretty sure we have a shortstop. I like the idea of getting Tejada some experience, but it looks like he's clearly overmatched right now. I'd give Turner a shot.

Enjoy jail, Rajah. I would make a joke about him already having experience with getting stuck in the butt, but I won't.

Tell you what; we'll trade Francoeur to SpongeTech and call it even.

Oh, goodness, this is awful. 4. The combined 820 at bats given to Louis Castillo, Alex Cora, Jeff Francoeur, Gary Matthews Jr., Frank Catalanotto, and Mike Jacobs. This was after the Mets identified the bench as something that needed to be upgraded. At least most of these guys are gone. Total cost of those at bats? Just under 14 million. Who the hell is Louis Castillo? Luis Castillo has 247 of those ABs, but his replacement, wunderkind Tejada, hasn't had a hit since high school. (Which, admittedly, he only graduated from in June.) 5. The amount of at bats Fernando Tatis, an above average MLB reserve, lost to those guys listed above before getting hurt. 65. Ironically enough, just about the same number of ABs the 1986 Mets gave to Kevin Elster and Stan Jefferson. 7. 17 starts of 6 plus ERA baseball given to John Maine, Oliver Perez, and Fernando Nieve. Maine and Perez were guaranteed rotation spots this season, and Nieve was given a shot to compete for the fifth spot, and then expected to be a major bullpen contributor. And when they weren't, they got other people to fill those roles. 10. Louis Castillo has 6 million on his contract. 11. Credit to @willdavidian � Will Louis Castillo be the Mets second baseman next season? Will the sun come up tomorrow? Who the hell is Louis Castillo? 12. A bullpen where Elmer Dessens is the 8th inning guy Dessens has pitched 11 1/3 innings in the 8th, with a 0.80 ERA and a .531 OPS against. It's been his most effective inning. 13. Raul Valdes �on loan from the Mexican League,� in the media capital of the world. Like the time he came on no rest to throw five innings in relief of John Maine and got a big W. How dare he? 14. Darren O�Day pitching in Texas in October. Hasn't happened yet. 15. Matt Lindstrom pitching in Houston. The Mets will re-acquire him for another minor league talent they undervalue. Has no idea where his pitches are going when they leave his hand, AND he's hurt now anyway. 19. The sad reality that all of them could have been parts of a top flight bullpen in New York, but no, we�ve got Elmer Dessens and Raul Valdes, �on loan from the Mexican League.� Used this one already, dude. 20. Raul Valdes �on loan from the Mexican League,� is the only Met with an OPS over 1. Wait, I thought we hated Raul Valdes? By the way... number of major league players with an OPS over 1.000? THREE. Miguel Cabrera, Josh Hamilton, Joey Votto. 36. The continued refusal to go over slot for draft picks, in pursuit of an All Star game, or the opportunity to spoon with Bud Selig. I�m not entirely sure. I'm not entirely sure what you're talking about here either, so don't worry. 35. There�s no new spending in sight, but if there were, it�d probably be more of the catastrophic type we�ve grown accustomed to. 37. Instead of spending, management keeps blaming the core. Wait. They're supposed to spend, or they're not supposed to spend? Make up your mind. 42. Management alienates core players like Carlos Beltran in the interest of perpetuating their dog and pony show and selling tickets to meaningless games, future be damned. Say whaa? 43. The Mets might trade Carlos Beltran in the off-season, and they wasted his prime with sub-par outfielders alongside him. Like Gary Sheffield (118 OPS+) and Francoeur (120 OPS+) in 2009, Tatis (123 OPS+) Church (106 OPS+) and Murphy (129 OPS+) in 2008, Moises Alou (137 OPS+) and Shawn Green (103 OPS+) in 2007, Xavier Nady (107 OPS+) and Endy Chavez (103 OPS+) in 2006? Ah, Cliff Floyd only had an 88 OPS+ that year. That's what he's talking about. 46. The Mets can�t get value for Beltran otherwise, because Omar Minaya gave away the ability to offer arbitration at the negotiating table. Cot's Contracts says the Mets have already worked it into the contract that they can't offer him arbitration after 2011. 62. the Mets are still paying Bobby Bonilla. Which, it's already been shown, was probably a shrewd financial decision at the time. Get over it. 63. That poor miserable Pit Bull in Mets gear outside of the promenade on hot days. It was cute the first time. Now I just feel bad for that animal. Has nothing at all to do with the team. 70. Paying a lot of money for Francisco Rodriguez and then failing to use him in high leverage situations. He's been the best reliever on the team all year. What's your point? 71. That�s just baseball. What is that supposed to mean? 72. Putting Nick Evans at AA and giving a AAA roster spot to Mike Jacobs. Dude got 24 ABs before getting cut. How many more games would they have won with Nick Evans getting those 24 ABs? 82. The fact that this whole situation probably could have been avoided if we had a manger capable of understanding the term �high-leverage situation.� Used this one already too, dude. 83. Speaking of which, a bullpen featuring Manny Acosta and a manager who believes that he�s a viable 8th inning option. How many eighth innings has Acosta pitched in? Nine. And Acosta -- a former closer -- has a 120 ERA+ in his 21 2/3 innings as a Met this year. 87. Mike Sielski on Rod Barajas. 88. Mike Sielski on Jeff Francoeur. 89. Mike Sielski in general. Is Mike Sielski f�ing kidding me with this tripe? Who the hell is Mike Sielski? 93. The mid-season speculation about where Angel Pagan would play when Carlos Beltran returned, mostly from the booth and press corps. Are you upset at what the team is doing, or are you upset about what a bunch of talking heads are radio guys think they may or may not be thinking about doing? 96. The youth movement vs. Jerry Manuel�s �Save My Job Drive� month of August. I thought we weren't supposed to rush the young players? I don't get it. What a doosh.

Ceetar wrote: Now now, in 2012 the Mets will be coming off a World Series championship. They'll be doing some tinkering for sure, but they may ultimately decide that they don't need to buy him out and can add the pieces without doing so to repeat as champions. Yeah, like they're going to get rid of the guy who struck out Miguel Cabrera with the tying run on third to win the World Series. No effin' way.

While you wait for the new and improved CPF shirt to be created, swing over to The 7 Line and buy one of these. I just did. http://www.the7line.bigcartel.com/product/shea_batter There are some really neat ideas they have over there. Was tempted to get a "Don't Mess With The Johan" shirt also, but I figured I'd just go with one for now.

Is that a Dickey dickey? Love it.

I wonder how this impacts potential future free agent signings. Let's say you're an agent with a player with a little craziness in his history; do you steer your client away from the Mets because maybe the Wilpons are more likely to play fast and loose with guaranteed contract obligations? I don't know.

Ceetar wrote: i know they've all but publicly given up and Jerry will just work a random reliever extra hard, but..roster move? I'm wondering this too. Maybe they'll announce it before tonight's game?

One of the great TTM ("through the mail") autograph signers; RIP Bobby.

That is so fucking Yankee of him, to attach his name to a fucking disease that he didn't even have. What a jerk. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/18/sports/18gehrig.html

Not Jake, 62. Peavey the draft pick.

Parnell was soft-tossing in the ninth as well. SNY showed him. I like the committee idea. Make it stick, Metsies.