KC wrote: The money he makes? C'mon. My point was that while you can certainly debate whether Wagner needed to be brought in (I'd have stuck with Sanchez in case we needed Wagner today), there was no reason in advance to even entertain the possibility of the kind of implosion that he had. He pitched one easy inning on Friday, after sitting out the Cardinals series. If you need to be concerned about whether that constitutes overwork, he was a rather bad investment. As far as leaving Wagner in too long, which manager doesn't leave their closer in too long in those situations? (Answer: only the ones already harboring doubts about which of their pitchers belongs in that role.) The fact that Willie took him out when the Mets still had the lead actually puts him ahead of a lot of managers in that situation. If Rivera comes in with a four run cushion and gets in that kind of trouble, would Torre pull him before Randolph pulled Wagner? Valentine didn't pull Benitez in the first Braves game until it was tied, and it wasn't any less obvious he needed to come out. The bottom line is, Wagner failed the team spectacularly yesterday. It's one game, but it was against the Yankees, and everyone will remember it for as long as Wagner's a Met. Benitez dealt with more flak than he deserved, and I don't see how Wagner avoids the same fate.