Let's talk about Jay Bruce for the next couple hours

[Edgy MD]

All true. But giving up defense for offense is one of things teams making late kick to get back into the race find themselves doing. I mean, some team last year convinced themselves that Yoenis Céspedes was a center fielder. The crazy thing is that it worked ... until it didn't.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Ceetar wrote: Has there been realistic talk about Bruce to first? doesn't look like he really plays there at all.

3 games in 2014. and i would not worry even a little about Loney. He will get his time.

[Guest Mets Guy in Michigan]

If he's staying in the outfield, this must mean the end of DeAza, no?

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

An abrupt end to the Legend of Nimmo, to be sure. I feel like we just spent years waiting for a roast to cook, pulled it from the oven just as it was approaching done-ness, then turned around and flipped it for a day-old steakhouse burger. Like, it used to be delectable, but now... well, I guess it's calories.

Not a fan of this, really. He's got power, but really, that's ALL he has. Also, two first names? WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO HIDE, MR. FAKE NAME??!?

[TransMonk]

Crasnick and Carig say Bruce a done deal for Nimmo and two lower prospects pending physicals.

Depending on the lower prospects, I can be OK with this deal since I think Nimmo's ceiling is likely not what Bruce will provide this year and next, but I don't think Bruce fills a glaring need in 2016, so I still scratch my head a little.

[Edgy MD]

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: An abrupt end to the Legend of Nimmo, to be sure. I feel like we just spent years waiting for a roast to cook, pulled it from the oven just as it was approaching done-ness, then turned around and flipped it for a day-old steakhouse burger. Like, it used to be delectable, but now... well, I guess it's calories.

I wonder how the development staff feels at a time like this. Imagine the number of endless Nimmo meetings they've had over the years!

[Centerfield]

I guess we'll be talking about him a lot longer than a couple of hours.

Like I mentioned, not high on Bruce, but Nimmo didn't seem like a high price to pay for someone with 25 HR's and 80 RBI.

Hope he doesn't make us pay later.

Welcome to NY Jay Bruce.

Is he a good guy at least?

[Ceetar]

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Ceetar wrote: Has there been realistic talk about Bruce to first? doesn't look like he really plays there at all. 3 games in 2014. and i would not worry even a little about Loney. He will get his time.

was thinking of Granderson and Conforto's potential more specifically.

Mets Guy in Michigan wrote: If he's staying in the outfield, this must mean the end of DeAza, no?

half the PA, but De Aza's outhit Bruce over the last 30 days.

[soupcan]

Possible medical issue holding up finalization of trade. Stay tuned...

[Centerfield]

This year has really caused me to re-think whether being able to hit with RISP is an actual skill. I always assumed this was just a stat of correlation rather than actual ability. Only this year's Mets have me thinking whether there is something to it.

In any event, Jay Bruce with RISP

2016: .360 BA, 1.125 OPS
2015: .180 BA, .642 OPS
2014: .242 BA, .746 OPS
2013: .262 BA, .825 OPS

So either it's a random stat, or he was ok at it, then got really bad, and practiced, and got really good at it this year.

Hope he doesn't forget it.

[TransMonk]

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[Centerfield]

Did Brandon Nimmo start crying?

[TransMonk]

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[soupcan]

Oh BFD. Give 'em another one.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Twits say the prospects are A level pitchers Chris Flexen and Max Wotell. Also word is they're working on a solution.

So, all you Wotell fans can relax.

This is gonna be a hell of an afternoon.

[Guest sharpie]

Apparently something to do with Nimmo's foot.

[Lefty Specialist]

Dunno, I see Bruce as a kind of redundancy. There are too many outfielders already, and a Cespedes/Granderson/Bruce outfield is scary beyond belief.

I was hoping they'd shop Neil Walker for something to restock the farm with, then bring up Dilson, who's rotting in Vegas.

[Ceetar]

Lefty Specialist wrote: Dunno, I see Bruce as a kind of redundancy. There are too many outfielders already, and a Cespedes/Granderson/Bruce outfield is scary beyond belief. I was hoping they'd shop Neil Walker for something to restock the farm with, then bring up Dilson, who's rotting in Vegas.

Walker's decent and they're gonna, CBA-willing, get a comp pick for him next year to restock with.

I'd have liked to see Dilson a billion times by now though.

[nymr83]

very redundant with what we have - but if the prospect cost isnt too high it is a smart move to hedge against Cespedes walking for NEXT year.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

sharpie wrote: Apparently something to do with Nimmo's foot.

Apparently, it's Flexen's arm. He needs to do more flexin'

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Buster says deal back on; but, no Lucroy for Mets.

[Frayed Knot]

Sherman says the same.
Were able to reconfigure the deal which is now 'On the verge' of completion.

Also says that there's likely a separate smallish deal for relief help.

[Frayed Knot]

Rosenthal: Deal for Bruce [u:xchyrtpi]IS DONE[/u:xchyrtpi], for Nimmo and ... DILSON HERRERA, and a 3rd prospect.

[Vic Sage]

well THAT sucks. Its one thing to include Herrera in a deal for an all-star catcher, and quite another to give him away in a deal for a 1-dimensional power bat.

[Zvon]

ahh shit.



OE: Don't like parting with Dilson in this trade.

[bmfc1]

Nimmo stays, which deserves a smile if not a point to the sky.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Frayed Knot wrote: Rosenthal: Deal for Bruce IS DONE, for Nimmo and ... DILSON HERRERA, and a 3rd prospect.

Not Nimmo but Herrera +.

Lucroy to the Rangers, evidently.

[seawolf17]

If you're going to include Herrera, you should have asked for Brandon Phillips too.

[seawolf17]

seawolf17 wrote: If you're going to include Herrera, you should have asked for Brandon Phillips too.

Scratch that, my bad. It's Herrera INSTEAD of Nimmo.

[Frayed Knot]

seawolf17 wrote: seawolf17 wrote: If you're going to include Herrera, you should have asked for Brandon Phillips too. Scratch that, my bad. It's Herrera INSTEAD of Nimmo.

Yeah, that was mostly my fault jumping the gun.

New info (Jonathan Mayo) says Herrera and Max Wotell, no 3rd player.