Cespedes

[Vic Sage]

my preference for Harper:
coachinng baseball at the College of Southern Nevada, after he gets a lifetime ban from MLB for being such a huge throbbing penis.

[Benjamin Grimm]

I'd like to see him leave baseball and get a job as a press spokesman for circus clowns.

[Edgy MD]

Nah. Baseball needs it's heels.

The Mets are gonna win about 1200 games over the next decade, and things would get real boring if they upped that to 1300 or 1400.

[Gwreck]

Edgy MD wrote: things would get real boring if they upped that to 1300 or 1400.

I'm willing to find out of if that's true.

[Benjamin Grimm]

We'd all be grooving on the historical redemption.

[Edgy MD]

We're going to be grooving anyway, depending of course on how effectively the transition from Alderson to the next GM.

[Fman99]

Vic Sage wrote: my preference for Harper: coachinng baseball at the College of Southern Nevada, after he gets a lifetime ban from MLB for being such a huge throbbing penis.

You had me at "huge throbbing penis."

[TransMonk]

Vic Sage wrote: my preference for Harper: coachinng baseball at the College of Southern Nevada, after he gets a lifetime ban from MLB for being such a huge throbbing penis.

This. He'd be like "where's my Scenic West Athletic Conference Championship ring?"

[Lefty Specialist]

Ya know, these long, long term deals don't usually work out. Stanton signs a 13-year deal and in the first season spends more than half of it on the disabled list. Think the Angels would like to get out of the back half of the Pujols contract and the Nats aren't having second thoughts about the Scherzer deal?

Harper's young and good, but he's also displayed a propensity for injury. He's got a body type that just screams nagging muscle pulls down the line. Yes, let the Nats or Yanks back up the Brinks truck for him.

[Frayed Knot]

The difference with Harper is that he'll hit the FA market just as he turns 26 y/o
Not that that means that a team still couldn't make a bad deal out of such a situation [see: Rodriguez, Alex at a half year younger] but you'd be on much better footing starting out as compared to the recent deals for Pujols, Cano, etc., or, for that matter, Cespedes.

[Benjamin Grimm]

"Céspedes", by the way, is the Spanish word for "lawns".

[seawolf17]

TransMonk wrote: my preference for Harper: coachinng baseball at the College of Southern Nevada, after he gets a lifetime ban from MLB for being such a huge throbbing penis. This. He'd be like "where's my Scenic West Athletic Conference Championship ring?"

That's a clown question, bro.

[Edgy MD]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: "Céspedes", by the way, is the Spanish word for "lawns".

I've come around to thinking Yoenis is a variant of Johannes.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Could be! Maybe we can start calling him "Johnny Lawns".

[ashie62]

I call him "Yo Yo."

[Vic Sage]

Topic:

Mets' revived post-July31 offense was based largely on Cespedes' unsustainable hot streak, and now that NL pitchers have figured out that you don't actually have to throw Yo-Anus any strikes to get him out, his current 1 for 19 streak is going to continue, and the Mets 1-4 record with 10 runs scored over that streak will stretch into the post-season (if there even is a post-season).

Discuss

[Ceetar]

Vic Sage wrote: Topic: Mets' revived post-July31 offense was based largely on Cespedes' unsustainable hot streak, and now that NL pitchers have figured out that you don't actually have to throw Yo-Anus any strikes to get him out, his current 1 for 19 streak is going to continue, and the Mets 1-4 record with 10 runs scored over that streak will stretch into the post-season (if there even is a post-season). Discuss

Duda went on the DL and hasn't quite gotten his groove back. Cuddyer too with the wrist. They weren't going to win every game. d'Arnaud going through a little cooler period too. Obviously Cespedes wasn't going to hit a home run every game. It's not like NL pitchers have never seen him before (or that he was even facing NL pitching during the slump) or have no tape on him. He'll be fine. two weeks to find a groove again.

[Vic Sage]

Duda went on the DL and hasn't quite gotten his groove back. Cuddyer too with the wrist. They weren't going to win every game. d'Arnaud going through a little cooler period too. Obviously Cespedes wasn't going to hit a home run every game. It's not like NL pitchers have never seen him before (or that he was even facing NL pitching during the slump) or have no tape on him. He'll be fine. two weeks to find a groove again.

Yes, d'Arnaud's 1 for 15 hasn't helped, but Duda and Cuddyer had nothing to do with the Mets becoming scoring machines leading the NL in offense post-deadline. So their continued irrelevance is irrelevant. Yo-Anus has spent his career to date in the AL: yes, NL pitchers have seen him during inter-league play, but that's not much. Its one thing to have tape, and another to actually pitch against a guy. And no, of course we aren't going to win every game. we didn't win every game during his hot streak either, but we were winning 2/3, which is the rate at which 100win teams play. But more to the point is your comment that "Cespedes" wasn't going to hit a home run every game." No, but he was hitting one every OTHER game for 5-6 weeks, which is my point exactly. He wasn't going to keep that up; he couldn't. Now that he's stopped, the Mets are back to a 2run/gm team.

you think Yo-Anus will find his groove again in 2 weeks? based on what? All i see right now is a guy who flails at bad pitches, with no patience or control of the strike zone, and the mistakes he used to hit out he's now popping up or, at best, hitting a double, like he did last night on a flat curve right over the middle of the plate. It's called "reversion to the mean", i think. And he's as likely to stay as cold for the rest of the season (and post-season) as he was hot over the last 6 weeks.

[Ceetar]

no, i think my point was that he just played 3 games against an AL team he'd seen like 7 times already this year.

But sure, if your point is that Cespedes was a one-trick pony and teams that have seen him before can get him out.

But the numbers don't seem to suggest that. It's not like he's a rookie and had his brief bout of success and then failed. He's having his best season yet.

reversion to the mean means he'll settle in somewhere around .270/.318/.487 which would be pretty helpful. Not 1/18. Even Rey Ordonez wouldn't settle in at that level.

I think the 2400 AB in his career, and the 635 this season, are much more reasonable exceptions for the next two weeks and the playoffs than 4 games.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Could be! Maybe we can start calling him "Johnny Lawns".

How did I not know this earlier? "Yo Yo Lawn" it is.

[Edgy MD]

A lot of calls for the Mets to drop everything and lock Cespedes up long term. Then they suddenly stopped this week. Curious.

[Guest Mets Guy in Michigan]

"Yo Anus?" Seriously? We're piling on the guy after the amazing streak he's had?

We're not up 6 games without him.

He hasn't been the same since Stony Brook alum Tom Koehler drilled him in the hip. Perhaps there's an injury there that he's been getting over.

[dgwphotography]

Mets Guy in Michigan wrote: "Yo Anus?" Seriously? We're piling on the guy after the amazing streak he's had? We're not up 6 games without him. He hasn't been the same since Stony Brook alum Tom Koehler drilled him in the hip. Perhaps there's an injury there that he's been getting over.

I don't think it's a coincidence that he went 0-19 after being drilled...

[seawolf17]

Mets Guy in Michigan wrote: He hasn't been the same since Stony Brook alum Tom Koehler drilled him in the hip. Perhaps there's an injury there that he's been getting over.

/ignores CPF until Cespedes hits another home run

[Ceetar]

seawolf17 wrote: He hasn't been the same since Stony Brook alum Tom Koehler drilled him in the hip. Perhaps there's an injury there that he's been getting over. /ignores CPF until Cespedes hits another home run

so see you tonight around 7:20?

[Frayed Knot]

dgwphotography wrote: Mets Guy in Michigan wrote: "Yo Anus?" Seriously? We're piling on the guy after the amazing streak he's had? We're not up 6 games without him. He hasn't been the same since Stony Brook alum Tom Koehler drilled him in the hip. Perhaps there's an injury there that he's been getting over. I don't think it's a coincidence that he went 0-19 after being drilled...

I do.

[Guest Mets Willets Point]

I think it's just an ordinary slump.

[Zvon]

He got hit in the meaty part of his butt. I don't see how that should effect his playing. Although I bet taking a dump is a pain is his ass.

[seawolf17]

Ceetar wrote: He hasn't been the same since Stony Brook alum Tom Koehler drilled him in the hip. Perhaps there's an injury there that he's been getting over. /ignores CPF until Cespedes hits another home run so see you tonight around 7:20?

He's back. We're good.

[Edgy MD]

Fascinating reading.