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That's about the least surprising thing ever.


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We should probably makes this a "Memories of Jordanny Valdespin" thread, as I really don't see how he plays for the Mets again.


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smg58 wrote:
We should probably makes this a "Memories of Jordanny Valdespin" thread, as I really don't see how he plays for the Mets again.


And a fun thread it will be..


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smg58 wrote:
We should probably makes this a "Memories of Jordanny Valdespin" thread, as I really don't see how he plays for the Mets again.


he likely won't because he's not good.

But glad to free up the spot on the 40 man regardless (two spots really).


Old friend Fernando Martinez suspended too.


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Three Dominican minor-league free agents signed during the Minaya era were suspended today. Makes you wonder who was doing the scouting in the DR, and how closely were they paying attention.


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smg58 wrote:
Three Dominican minor-league free agents signed during the Minaya era were suspended today. Makes you wonder who was doing the scouting in the DR, and how closely were they paying attention.


I have not heard any of the mainstream media point it out yet, but 8 of the 12 suspended today are from the DR (+ 3 from Venezuela and 1 from Nicaragua). Unfortunate coincidence or a sign of a much more serious issue?


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86-Dreamer wrote:
smg58 wrote:
Three Dominican minor-league free agents signed during the Minaya era were suspended today. Makes you wonder who was doing the scouting in the DR, and how closely were they paying attention.


I have not heard any of the mainstream media point it out yet, but 8 of the 12 suspended today are from the DR (+ 3 from Venezuela and 1 from Nicaragua). Unfortunate coincidence or a sign of a much more serious issue?


Probably more a factor of the clinic's location. I'm sure the other guys that didn't get caught use a different clinic.


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In related news, I'm a goddamn genius.

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Based on nothing but my Don Zimmer-like intuition, I feel like Jordany's gonna get popped for PEDs one day.


I think you're doing a better job than the cadre of Mets beat reporters who have continually cackled like Mean Girls about JV's cursing and tweeting and wearing the wrong shirt and standing at the plate too long but, despite their access and professional credentials, never indicated any inkling of the story right under their noses. Though that might be because Biogenesis and PEDs aren't a big topic in New York baseball these days.

Not even a "one Met executive has speculated the scandal might touch the major league roster" out of them. It's wholly possible Valdespin sought his edge completely out of public view, and it's also wholly possible that nobody wanted to brush up against libel laws by hinting at anything that wasn't 100% solid, but it seems highly unlikely in an "industry" in which everything gets gossiped about and everything gets leaked that nobody on the other side of the clubhouse door couldn't have/wouldn't have noticed something...unless they weren't particularly trying to find out.


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Ceetar wrote:

Old friend Fernando Martinez suspended too.


Talk about a "can't miss prospect" that we missed out on turning around for a big ticket item...well when the Wilpons could have afforded a big ticket item! =;)


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SteveJRogers wrote:
Ceetar wrote:

Old friend Fernando Martinez suspended too.


Talk about a "can't miss prospect" that we missed out on turning around for a big ticket item...well when the Wilpons could have afforded a big ticket item! =;)


This goes back to our scouts in the DR. They dropped the ball on F-Mart in more ways than one.


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It only distorts the record to call Fartinez a can't-miss prospect. Every last one of us knows there's no-such thing.


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Edgy MD wrote:
It only distorts the record to call Fartinez a can't-miss prospect. Every last one of us knows there's no-such thing.


I don't remember him being called one. Certainly he was highly-touted, but I don't think he was one of those Chipper Jones/A-Rod type guys who were universally thought of as future no-doubt all-stars when they were still in the minors


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G-Fafif wrote:
A Boy Named Seo wrote:
In related news, I'm a goddamn genius.

A Boy Named Seo wrote:
Based on nothing but my Don Zimmer-like intuition, I feel like Jordany's gonna get popped for PEDs one day.


I think you're doing a better job than the cadre of Mets beat reporters who have continually cackled like Mean Girls about JV's cursing and tweeting and wearing the wrong shirt and standing at the plate too long but, despite their access and professional credentials, never indicated any inkling of the story right under their noses. Though that might be because Biogenesis and PEDs aren't a big topic in New York baseball these days.

Not even a "one Met executive has speculated the scandal might touch the major league roster" out of them. It's wholly possible Valdespin sought his edge completely out of public view, and it's also wholly possible that nobody wanted to brush up against libel laws by hinting at anything that wasn't 100% solid, but it seems highly unlikely in an "industry" in which everything gets gossiped about and everything gets leaked that nobody on the other side of the clubhouse door couldn't have/wouldn't have noticed something...unless they weren't particularly trying to find out.


Yeah, no its better to speculate on the past, or at least those currently in the game whom one suspects based on being prominent during the said past (i.e. waste some time on a radio talk show redoing MVP awards to the point where Craig Biggio pretty much is a multiple time NL MVP winner) and to be the ultimate arbiters come HOF election time based on the anonymity of the balloting and saying that anything else is none of the public's business!


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Edgy MD wrote:
It only distorts the record to call Fartinez a can't-miss prospect. Every last one of us knows there's no-such thing.


That's fair, I was using the quotes based on the fact that he was touted as the Mets best prospects by the mainstream press, the Mets own PR folks (though I'd give more blame on the media for running way too hard on what the Mets give them) and Met system pom-pom wavers in community fandom outlets (no one here in particular though).

But essentially the point was that he was someone that was touted and could have had value in a deadline, waiver wire, or offseason trade but ended up being an injury prone DFA'd washout for the organization.


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Benjamin Grimm wrote:
I'm waiting for Valadius to drop by to exclaim how this vindicates Piazza.



I don't think Piazza ever gets to the hall...


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smg58 wrote:
We should probably makes this a "Memories of Jordanny Valdespin" thread, as I really don't see how he plays for the Mets again.


I think there was already a decent chance that Valdespin was never going to play another game for the Mets. Well, after a September call-up maybe.



I don't think Piazza ever gets to the hall...


That's a bet I'd take.


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Frayed Knot wrote:
I don't think Piazza ever gets to the hall...


That's a bet I'd take.


He will, after it comes out that someone who the BWAA votes in going forward was a PED user despite no "whispers" and innuendos that are keeping him, Bagwell and others out.


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smg58 wrote:
We should probably makes this a "Memories of Jordanny Valdespin" thread, as I really don't see how he plays for the Mets again.

Perhaps, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if he did.

But an eventual MemdeVal thread will be rich, as I can't think of any Mets who has left so many uniquely indelible moments in so short a period of time.


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SteveJRogers wrote:
Frayed Knot wrote:
I don't think Piazza ever gets to the hall...


That's a bet I'd take.


He will, after it comes out that someone who the BWAA votes in going forward was a PED user despite no "whispers" and innuendos that are keeping him, Bagwell and others out.


Piazza will go in before any of that nonsense needs to happen.


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He'll go in. There's a damn-good case for nine of the top ten on last year's ballot. (Hard for me to get behind Lee Smith's candidacy.)


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