Ronny

[Edgy MD]

Buzz in Cyberland that the Mets are negotiating with Ronny Cede�o to see if he'd like to come over their house to play.

Career sub-.300 OBP and pretty consistent about it, too. Modest extra-base power fell off last year too. Mets and Pirates seem to be shopping at each other's yard sales these days.



Me, I was more jazzed by Quintanilla.

[Guest sharpie]

If they're letting Ronny Paulino go they need to fill the Ronny slot somewhere.

[Ceetar]

Are there actually any sorta maybe not completely worthless backup SS out there?

Honestly, isn't it probably more beneficial to just make Turner practice it a little bit more?

[Benjamin Grimm]

sharpie wrote: If they're letting Ronny Paulino go they need to fill the Ronny slot somewhere.

Maybe they can reactivate Ron Darling and slot him into their rotation.

[TransMonk]

I'm not sure we'll ever need another Cedeno.

[Edgy MD]

Had his best season ever WAR-wise last year, but that's largely because both BB-r and Fangraphs show his defense spiking remarkably.

That could be an illusion or an unsustainable reality, but at least they agree.

[seawolf17]

Sucks.

[Benjamin Grimm]

I don't know about that. I suspect he's good enough to be a backup shortstop on a last-place team.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Just because the team's got no realistic chance of finishing higher than third or fourth doesn't mean they have to aim at "f*cking terrible."

If he'll play for the league minimum-plus, he's worth it. Maybe.

[Edgy MD]

Not a big Ronny Cede�o Fan Club chapter here, i'm gathering.

[bmfc1]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: I don't know about that. I suspect he's good enough to be a backup shortstop on a last-place team.

Excellent.

[Ceetar]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: I don't know about that. I suspect he's good enough to be a backup shortstop on a last-place team.

self-fulfullling prophesy, that.

[Edgy MD]

Started at short the last season for the fourth-place Buccos.

I mean, they were fourth pretty much despite him, but still.

[TransMonk]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: I don't know about that. I suspect he's good enough to be a backup shortstop on a last-place team.

Perspective and reality packed into concise statement.

I agree...come on down, Ronny!

[Gwreck]

Hey, Sandy: Booooooo

[Edgy MD]

RumBunter already missing their Ronny.

[nymr83]

I don't think Cedeno hurts the team, unless he ends up blocking someone from getting promoted who would help, but he won't help things around here either.

[Ceetar]

Nymr83 wrote: I don't think Cedeno hurts the team, unless he ends up blocking someone from getting promoted who would help, but he won't help things around here either.

well he sucks.

Turner may be the most logical guy without a chair now.

[metirish]

Done deal says Heyman....

[ashie62]

Shooting for the 75 million dollar payroll

I guess Turner must have pissed somebody off, he's better than Cedeno.

[smg58]

He's better than Chin-lung Hu, at least. The Mets had room on the bench for a second reserve infielder, so I don't think this adversely affects Turner. I think Ryan Theriot would have been a better fit among the free agents, but not if he'd need a starter's salary.

It's tough to get excited about filling out the bench, but I don't see the point of booing it either.

[MFS62]

This guy is far better than Omar Whatzisname they signed a few days ago.
Two years ago, hit ten homers. Was injured part of last year.
Let's face it, they have nobody else on the roster who could fill in for a week or so as the backup shortstop and not make you cringe every time a ground ball is hit to the left side. Turner can't play that position for more than an (eventful) inning or so.
There may be some guys in the minors who can play there in a year or two (Valdespin for one), but they're not ready.
A decent pickup.

Later

[Fman99]

Edgy DC wrote: Me, I was more jazzed by Quintanilla.

Seriously. I'd make a short stop on that.

[MFS62]

Very short.

Later

[ashie62]

MFS62 wrote: Very short. Later

Bada bing.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

MFS62 wrote: This guy is far better than Omar Whatzisname they signed a few days ago. Two years ago, hit ten homers. Was injured part of last year.

Better? Probably. Far better? Highly doubtful.

The year he hit 10 HRs? He slugged worse that year than a 14-year-old Ruben Tejada did last year. He's Alex Cora with the baserunning awareness of Angel Pagan. He's Starlin Castro, without the glove, and minus the bat, and plus a few years. He makes Jeter look like Jeter thinks he looks. He is... the Least Interesting Signing In The World.

[MFS62]

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: MFS62 wrote: This guy is far better than Omar Whatzisname they signed a few days ago. Two years ago, hit ten homers. Was injured part of last year. Better? Probably. Far better? Highly doubtful. The year he hit 10 HRs? He slugged worse that year than a 14-year-old Ruben Tejada did last year. He's Alex Cora with the baserunning awareness of Angel Pagan. He's Starlin Castro, without the glove, and minus the bat, and plus a few years. He makes Jeter look like Jeter thinks he looks. He is... the Least Interesting Signing In The World.

And, when he drinks beer, he drinks DosEquis.

Later

[Edgy MD]

Yeah, I don't know why youse guys think this effects Justin Turner at all at all. The job he looks to get was symbolically being held by Jordany Valdespin, and will be held by Valdespin in fact if the relative performances make an argument for it.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Generally, I like it when you can fill a bench role with a guy who until he joined your team was a starter. If he's cool with it, especially. Not like Bobby Bo, but like Desi Relaford. Usually they are considered talented enough to have been given chances to start, might do one or two things well, but also proven in need of a successful role switch to save their career. Probably still young enough to believe a strong showing in a limited role can get them back on the big-money path.

That can be a good moment to have such a guy.

Now, what Cedeno brings I'm not sure. He doesn't appear to hit well, shows no particular platoon strengths and I'm ignorant of his D though I'm sure its considered acceptable at SS. But he fits the young-veteran-at-the-moment-his-career-switches definition otherwise, and maybe he shows us something.

/crosses fingers

[Ceetar]

Edgy DC wrote: Yeah, I don't know why youse guys think this effects Justin Turner at all at all. The job he looks to get was symbolically being held by Jordany Valdespin, and will be held by Valdespin in fact if the relative performances make an argument for it.

because he's getting 1.1 million, although I haven't heard if he's guaranteed a major league deal or not, but given that he's started the last two years..

while it's easy to pigeon hole him into backup SS and Valdespin's supposed job, he also backups up 2B which really makes Turner redundant in terms of coverage.