Jeter Watch

[Frayed Knot]

The thing here is, that after 16 years of nothing but praise and hosannas (much of it deserved, some almost comically over-the-top), even the slightest bit of criticism - (due to the fact that he's currently like the worst hitter on his team, maybe - just maybe mind you - he should no longer get the most ABs by batting leadoff) - hits certain ears as "bashing".

[Ceetar]

Frayed Knot wrote: The thing here is, that after 16 years of nothing but praise and hosannas (much of it deserved, some almost comically over-the-top), even the slightest bit of criticism - (due to the fact that he's currently like the worst hitter on his team, maybe - just maybe mind you - he should no longer get the most ABs by batting leadoff) - hits certain ears as "bashing".

I know it's NY so we notice it more, but there is certainly a feeling of obligation for us all to tune in and watch and root and cheer (HBO special reinforces that)

to that I ask... Do you remember where you were when Biggio got 3000? Do you remember the circumstances of the game? Home or Away? What date? what Month? What year?

I remember some of it. I seem to remember he had a big night, a lot of hits, kept on going. I seem to remember 3002 or something being really big. I have no idea when it was. 2008?

And that's the thing. I'm not a Yankees fan. Jeter's 3000th probably means less to me than Biggio's. So get off my back media, and go away.

[G-Fafif]

One team his entire career, led them to the postseason with stunning regularity, did anything he could to help the club, 3,000 hits.

That's Biggio right there. Forever an Astro, in the playoffs six times in ten years, switched positions as needed and reached his big milestone with little fanfare.

He's no Jeter.

[Ceetar]

I've changed my mind. I hope Jeter's 3000th hit comes via press release from the Yankees noting that the official scorer changed an error from a previous game to a hit.


...guys?

[Benjamin Grimm]

I didn't even remember that Craig Biggio had 3,000 hits.

Jeter reaching that milestone will mean as little to me as it apparently did when Biggio got there. (And Biggio, at least, is a homey; we're both from Smithtown.)

[Fman99]

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[Ceetar]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: I didn't even remember that Craig Biggio had 3,000 hits. Jeter reaching that milestone will mean as little to me as it apparently did when Biggio got there. (And Biggio, at least, is a homey; we're both from Smithtown.)

I'm completely drawing a blank on where Smithtown is. 3 years in Jersey is killing the previous 26 years of Long Island.. (please don't ask me where east Hanover is. I have no idea!)

[seawolf17]

Please. Three days in New Jersey and I was ready to drive through a wall. (Which I thought I would actually have to do in order to make a u-turn at one point.) Smithtown is just inside Suffolk county; right around the middle of the Island.

Biggio coached at my baseball camp when I was a kid. Always been something of a cult hero to me.

[stevejrogers]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: I didn't even remember that Craig Biggio had 3,000 hits. Jeter reaching that milestone will mean as little to me as it apparently did when Biggio got there. (And Biggio, at least, is a homey; we're both from Smithtown.)

Funny enough, I've heard an ESPN Radio blowhard once use this type of logic as to why Biggio should NOT be a Hall of Famer, but that argument would fall apart based on the amount of national scene ink, bandwith, and airtime Jeter has generated through his career as opposed to Biggio.

It also falls apart when you consider the next thing the guy said was Jose Canseco deserved to be in the Hall of Fame over Biggio based on Canseco's continued notoriety in his post MLB life, as well as the notoriety he had in his career.

[MFS62]

Has there been an earthquake somewhere recently?
I'm getting this feeling that a Jeter bullshit tsunami of monsterous proportions is fast approaching.

Later

[metirish]

Harper is embarrassing

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/2011/07/07/2011-07-07_in_changeup_joe_manages_to_get_it_right.html

[Ceetar]

metirish wrote: Harper is embarrassing http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/2011/07/07/2011-07-07_in_changeup_joe_manages_to_get_it_right.html

Maybe he has been stubborn to a fault this season, giving up on the no-stride approach at the plate that hitting coach Kevin Long was sure would get him back to .300. But Jeter has known only one way his entire career, and you have to admire his seemingly unwavering belief in that way, no matter the numbers.

You really do have to admire Jeter, for scrapping something that would make him good, and having the intangiables to remain being bad.

[MFS62]

metirish wrote: Harper is embarrassing http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/2011/07/07/2011-07-07_in_changeup_joe_manages_to_get_it_right.html

"The beauty of Jeter's greatness" says it all - about what a consummate douchebag Harper is.
I'll bet he only used one hand to type those words. The other hand was, uh, you know...
Later

[Benjamin Grimm]

I'm not one to admire unwavering belief in the face of evidence.

[Ceetar]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: I'm not one to admire unwavering belief in the face of evidence.

pretty sure that's unamerican. Don't you know that if you don't root for Jeter the terrorists win?

[metirish]

This

Hey, Jeter has been an easy target this season, but just because I've openly wondered how much he has left in the tank, or suggested he needs to be moved down in the lineup at some point, doesn't mean I don't appreciate the way he has played the game all these years. It doesn't mean I'm not rooting for him to reach this milestone as painlessly as possible. He desperately wants the chase for 3,000 hits to end before the All-Star break, and it would be hard for anybody to watch if he were to be embarrassed by a long, drawn-out countdown that stretches all the way past the All-Star break to Toronto next week. Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/2011/07/07/2011-07-07_in_changeup_joe_manages_to_get_it_right.html#ixzz1RQhq8tyb

I bet he was on his knees writing that.

[seawolf17]

Ceetar wrote: Harper is embarrassing http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/2011/07/07/2011-07-07_in_changeup_joe_manages_to_get_it_right.html Maybe he has been stubborn to a fault this season, giving up on the no-stride approach at the plate that hitting coach Kevin Long was sure would get him back to .300. But Jeter has known only one way his entire career, and you have to admire his seemingly unwavering belief in that way, no matter the numbers. You really do have to admire Jeter, for scrapping something that would make him good, and having the intangiables to remain being bad.

Seriously! That's awesomely bad writing.

[Lefty Specialist]

Steve Somers is on a roll in the evenings, waiting for 'the weak ground ball past the second baseman that will be THE CAPTAIN'S 3000th base hit.

As he's talking about him last night, Jeter obligingly strikes out while he's in the middle of his shtick. Priceless.

[metirish]

They lost again but He got his hit....it's all that counts.

[MFS62]

When he finally gets it, a lot of sportswriters will need a cigarette. And someone will have to dry off Suzyn Waldmann's chair (in the Lowe's Broadcast Booth).

Later

[Ceetar]

MFS62 wrote: When he finally gets it, a lot of sportswriters will need a cigarette. And someone will have to dry off Suzyn Waldmann's chair (in the Lowe's Broadcast Booth). Later

Sterlings too. I flipped on the game in the car last night, usually prefering baseball to talk..but after Jeter's hit i thought "Ugh, not putting up with _that_"

[Fman99]

metirish wrote: They lost again but He got his hit....it's all that counts.

Better yet, after being white hot with Nunez in their lineup they're a sterling 1-3 since the Craptain's return.

I hope he tears his ACLs and simultaneously get hit in the crotch and anus by pitched and batted balls.

[Lefty Specialist]

Fman99 wrote: I hope he tears his ACLs and simultaneously get hit in the crotch and anus by pitched and batted balls.

Now THERE'S an HBO special I would watch.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Really? I hope he stays vigorously healthy, forcing everyone to confront whatever reality they're avoiding.

[bmfc1]

http://deadspin.com/5819374/presenting-the-two-most-preposterous-sentences-ever-written-about-derek-jeter-as-of-1106-am-today:

Image is what solidifies Jeter's place among the Yankees greats. He has been single for his whole career.

Also: http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/al/yankees/2011-07-06-derek-jeter-new-york-history_n.htm

[bmfc1]

Jeter: out of the All-Star Game... will the game be canceled?

(The thread went beyond the original posting of the HBO show so I changed the name as I imagine that there will be few more Jeter related items this weekend.)

Edited July 8, 2011 by Guest

[Ceetar]

bmfc1 wrote: Jeter: out of the All-Star Game... will the game be canceled?

he learned that the PA guy that would announce him into the game was actually alive.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Jeter's Statement --- "The All-Star Game is always important to me. But I have concentrate on what's most meaningful --- my professional responsiblities. And for me, that means maintaining the fa�ade of my farcical injury. The truth is also that I'm a really awful player at this point and I don't need to underscore that fact to the world by playing in a showcase game I'm clearly --- cuh-learly --- unqualified for. OK, guys, heh-heh, the real statement is... HEY! Where's that guy going?"

[bmfc1]

New hashtag on Twitter, Derek Jeter Facts:

http://twitter.com/#!/search?q=%23DerekJeterFacts

[Ceetar]

awww, how sad. The game got rained out. little jetes will only have 2 games to try to scrounge together two soft grounders that the fielders can't get to.

Don't you just feel bad for those fans that paid over face on Stubhub that now have to sit through a late August Rays/Yanks game?