Filip Bondy, Monumental Asshole

[stevejrogers]

Ashie62 wrote: Ashie62 wrote: Valadius wrote: Bondy just wrote an article basically proclaiming the Yankees the victors of the NLCS. Douchebag. Reaching Val, reaching. Though would have been shocking and very nice if Bondy, or anyone for that matter, made the connection that Righetti started his big league life with the Rangers. Not reaching at all really... So, if an article comes out talking up Ryan's Met beginnings or even Francoeur's ex-Met status, that should be proclaiming a Met victory of the ALCS? thats reaching.

So basically the headline writer should not have played up Righetti's Yanqui past is what you are saying? Even though it's for a NYC paper and Bondy got a quote about Righetti's thoughts on the Yanqui's ALCS loss.

The original column in this thread is a fine example of Bondy's over the top YLDB-ness. The one Val referenced is not.

[stevejrogers]

Yes, this has been a sad, losing franchise for half a century, but not in a charming way like the Cubbies. The Rangers are still hoping to emerge from the darkest of dark ages now under the guidance of Ryan and new owner Chuck Greenberg - who happens to be from Pittsburgh, so you can imagine how much he knows about building a decent baseball team.

Well, considering he grew up on the Lumber Company Pirates, I'd say he would know, and be able to teach the current owners a thing or two.

[batmagadanleadoff]

My head hurts. Who's got the Cliff Notes to this thread?

[Guest The Second Spitter]

batmagadanleadoff wrote: My head hurts. Who's got the Cliff Notes to this thread?

Floyd.

[seawolf17]

Filip wrote: Yes, this has been a sad, losing franchise for half a century, but not in a charming way like the Cubbies. The Rangers are still hoping to emerge from the darkest of dark ages now under the guidance of Ryan and new owner Chuck Greenberg - who happens to be from Pittsburgh, so you can imagine how much he knows about building a decent baseball team.

[stevejrogers]

My head hurts. Who's got the Cliff Notes to this thread?

Seriously?

Okay, lets look at what Val is reacting to:

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/2010/10/24/2010-10-24_former_yankees_closer_dave_righetti_deserves_credit_as_giants_pitchers_close_out.html

Former Yankees closer Dave Righetti deserves credit as Giants pitchers close out NLCS Filip Bondy Sunday, October 24th 2010, 4:00 AM

That's all on the headline writer, but as I said, that is telling the few reading who have no idea who Righetti is and why a NYC hack is spotlighting him.

PHILADELPHIA - All around him Saturday night in the visitors' clubhouse, the Giants' pitchers were dousing their coach through his shirt, down to the bone. Dave Righetti, the calm center in this swirling champagne storm, was just trying to shake some hands, carry on a conversation with a reporter. "The starters, the young guys, they get a lot of attention," Righetti said. "It's natural. But today, it was all bullpen." The relievers and the starters just kept coming out of that pen on Saturday night, one after another, bringing everybody and everything. Madison Bumgarner pitched a couple of innings, and then later Tim Lincecum was warming up even while Juan Uribe rounded the bases in the eighth with his first-pitch, go-ahead homer off Ryan Madson. "We talked to Tim before the game," Righetti said. "He was ready for this situation." And while Lincecum didn't really do much in his brief, one-out, two-hit appearance, Brian Wilson came in to force a double play, to protect the one-run lead with the same vigilance four other Giant relievers demonstrated in keeping the Phils scoreless after the first inning. The bullpen did what was necessary for this 3-2 victory in Game 6 of the NLCS and won a ticket to the Giants' first World Series in eight years. And the upset really was born in odd, contentious fashion back in the third - when a brouhaha gave Bruce Bochy a legitimate excuse to yank his off-kilter starter, Jonathan Sanchez. Sanchez's pitch hit Chase Utley in the back, though surely not on purpose considering there was a man on first and nobody out. Utley picked up the ball, flipping it back toward the mound as he jogged to first. Sanchez took exception. Utley disdainfully waved him off. The two men jawed. Benches and bullpens emptied, three-quarters-heartedly. After considerable posturing and milling about by the reluctant warriors, Bochy pulled his rattled starter and replaced him with Jeremy Affeldt at an unnaturally early stage of the game - two-plus innings, with the score tied 2-2. Five relievers stopped the Phillies cold. The bullpen was magnificent. So now we have the Giants trying to do something against the Texas Rangers they haven't managed since they foolishly left upper Manhattan - win a World Series.

No references to Righetti's past so far.

Righetti was asked if it wouldn't even be better facing the Yankees, his old team. "No, it just doesn't work that way," he said. "There are no fairy tales. I feel bad for the teams in the East, the Yanks and the Phils. I know what this means to them here. But we want a piece of this, too."

There it is, your only reference in the entire article to the Yankees.

He gets that piece now. The San Francisco Giants are the closest thing to a New York team still pitching and catching in October. The franchise played at the Polo Grounds, chased out the Yanks from that home and then betrayed the city in 1958 by heading to the West Coast alongside its partner in crime, the Dodgers. The Giants have three former Yankees on their staff - the batting coach Hensley Meulens, the first base coach Roberto Kelly and Righetti. They also have those familiar six letters across the front of their uniform when they're playing at home.

Hmmmm, all it is saying is that there are three ex-Yankees on Bochy's staff, Bondy isn't saying that the Yankees deserve credit for their run.

Even the most bitter of ex-New York Giant fans melt a bit at that sight.

I'd say he's referring to the GIANTS on the uniform tops, not the three ex-Yankees on the coaching staff. Only one of which is of the fondly remembered kind these days.

"I realize this is a New York Giants board," one fan posted last week on a message board for the New York Baseball Giants Nostalgia Society. "But how nice to see the big fellows clinch the Western Division Championship on the anniversary of probably the franchise's and all of baseball's finest moment." The fan was referring, of course, to Bobby Thomson's homer against the Brooklyn Dodgers in 1951. It was a moment like no other in New York baseball history, in Giants history. While these newfangled Giants can never tug at the heartstrings of New Yorkers like the old ones, there is some recognizable grit to this new version. The underdog Giants closed out the NLCS on the road. During the regular season, they came back from a deficit that nearly evoked memories about the Miracle of Coogan's Bluff. "I'll say this about the club," Bochy said. "We've been tested all year. We've been playing big games. We were six and a half, seven games back. We went down to the wire playing Atlanta and now we're here in Philly, playing a tremendous team that's been to the Series the last two years. "These guys, they're battle-tested," Bochy said. Ryan Howard looked at the last pitch from Wilson, a low hard slider for strike three. No dynasty for the Phils, not yet. The Giants were chugging beers and dancing on champagne puddles. Some old memories and ghosts were stirred, under the Macombs Dam Bridge.

Hmmm, more about old NY Giant ghosts than "The Yankees deserve credit for the NLCS win for the Giants."

[metirish]

"Rogers and Bondy
sitting in a tree
K-I-S-S-I-N-G
First comes love,
then comes marriage,
then comes the baby Jeter
in a golden carriage!"

[stevejrogers]

Fuck off. We know Bondy is a YLDB NYC elitist, but ifI presented the same story, you'd be taking the piss out of me for trying too hard to pile on.

[metirish]

SteveJRogers wrote: Fuck off. We know Bondy is a YLDB NYC elitist, but ifI presented the same story, you'd be taking the piss out of me for trying too hard to pile on.

I kid , come on Stevo ......


can you be a douchebag and an elitist?

[MFS62]

And Andy Martino chimes in with a cheap shot (last paragraph), too.
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/2010/10/25/2010-10-25_giant_bust_for_phillies.html

Later

[Benjamin Grimm]

How is this a "cheap shot"?

Andy Martino's last paragraph wrote: The gulf is wide between those two teams, but something very subtle has shifted toward the Mets since the regular season ended. The Phils are hoping to extend a sublime era, while the Mets are working to build one. In a cyclical game, those underlying changes might not surface in the standings for years - but they will eventually surface.

[metirish]

I thought tracksuits column was good reading overall......Phillies are getting old , even the youngish ones like Utley and Rollins are old for their age.

[MFS62]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: How is this a "cheap shot"? Andy Martino's last paragraph wrote: The gulf is wide between those two teams, but something very subtle has shifted toward the Mets since the regular season ended. The Phils are hoping to extend a sublime era, while the Mets are working to build one. In a cyclical game, those underlying changes might not surface in the standings for years - but they will eventually surface.

Oops.
I meant the paragraph above it.

Remember all that whining in the Mets' locker room last month when Utley slid hard and late into Ruben Tejada? Privately, some Phils players are still mocking David Wright, who chirped about the incident but did nothing, and Beltran, who slid hard once, hit no one, and reverted to passivity.

I find that quite out of place in an article about what the Phillies need to rebound.
Later

[Guest metsguyinmichigan]

I like this line:

Derek Jeter aside, no player has seemed suddenly older and more vulnerable this postseason than the 31-year-old Utley, who batted .182 in the series and bumbled around the infield.


Look out, Andy! You think Ian O'Connor is going to let you get away with a line like that? I predict swift retaliation.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

FILIP AND FASTERSTRONGER: A DULL-AS-DURBIN EPISTOLARY TALE

(W/link to his Oct. 14 column) Accurate, unbiased, well-considered. Congratulations on nailing it!

Francis: Yanks ask Rangers not to overuse Lee in World Series. Want him in tip-top shape for spring training in Tampa... Arrogantly yours, Filip

Thanks for putting the same amount of thought, discretion, and effort into your form-letter middle-finger as you do your columns... and for giving those who say newspaper reporting is dying such tempting ammo. Enjoy the offseason.

Real, Live Filip wrote: You try answering 742 (mostly profane) emails!

Conciliatory LWFS wrote: Fair enough... but still. You're more or less bringing it on with responses like that, aren't you? (I can't really read the comments section of the online edition anymore.) Anyway... hell of a game tonight, though, huh? This might be the most entertaining game of either LCS so far. Most of the action's been of the non-scoring variety, too.

A Guy Who Definitely Didn't Pre-Write His Game Column for Saturday Night wrote: Agreed. I'm in the press box here in Philly watching as I write this == another reason I've been curt, juggling deadlines and responses. Look, you seem like an intelligent guy. The deal is that I wrote a lighthearted piece, with an arrogant persona as a literary device. Didn't make a single wave up here in New York where they know I write a lot of light pieces. Down in Texas, it became some kind of nutty cause celebre. I take sexism, violence, drugs in sports very seriously. I don't take Yankees-Rangers that way. I've covered too many games for too many years. Seemed natural to poke fun at the difference in these two franchise's histories. But if anybody thinks for a second that I approve of a $200 million payroll or thought the Yanks were a cinch, they haven't read much of what I've written. cheers, filip

Teasing here, too (some). I can see a little of that in that piece... but, what, was it supposed to be satirical? Lighthearted though it may be, it did come off less like a goof, and more like an amplified version of what you felt was true... and not ALL that amplified, really. And if so... what was the point of the satire, apart from getting the other guys' goat? (I mean, you mock their reaction after the fact... but that's what you were hoping for, wasn't it? Or is your aim to write forgettable pieces?) Thanks, and best of luck with your deadlines.

And... scene.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Wow. I'm just playing the asshole to fuck with people about something they care about.

Edgy DC wrote: Is the idea to bait peple into a fight?

I guess I have my answer?

[metirish]

FILIP AND FASTERSTRONGER: A DULL-AS-DURBIN EPISTOLARY TALE (W/link to his Oct. 14 column) Accurate, unbiased, well-considered. Congratulations on nailing it! Francis: Yanks ask Rangers not to overuse Lee in World Series. Want him in tip-top shape for spring training in Tampa... Arrogantly yours, Filip Thanks for putting the same amount of thought, discretion, and effort into your form-letter middle-finger as you do your columns... and for giving those who say newspaper reporting is dying such tempting ammo. Enjoy the offseason. Real, Live Filip wrote: You try answering 742 (mostly profane) emails! Conciliatory LWFS wrote: Fair enough... but still. You're more or less bringing it on with responses like that, aren't you? (I can't really read the comments section of the online edition anymore.) Anyway... hell of a game tonight, though, huh? This might be the most entertaining game of either LCS so far. Most of the action's been of the non-scoring variety, too. A Guy Who Definitely Didn't Pre-Write His Game Column for Saturday Night wrote: Agreed. I'm in the press box here in Philly watching as I write this == another reason I've been curt, juggling deadlines and responses. Look, you seem like an intelligent guy. The deal is that I wrote a lighthearted piece, with an arrogant persona as a literary device. Didn't make a single wave up here in New York where they know I write a lot of light pieces. Down in Texas, it became some kind of nutty cause celebre. I take sexism, violence, drugs in sports very seriously. I don't take Yankees-Rangers that way. I've covered too many games for too many years. Seemed natural to poke fun at the difference in these two franchise's histories. But if anybody thinks for a second that I approve of a $200 million payroll or thought the Yanks were a cinch, they haven't read much of what I've written. cheers, filip Teasing here, too (some). I can see a little of that in that piece... but, what, was it supposed to be satirical? Lighthearted though it may be, it did come off less like a goof, and more like an amplified version of what you felt was true... and not ALL that amplified, really. And if so... what was the point of the satire, apart from getting the other guys' goat? (I mean, you mock their reaction after the fact... but that's what you were hoping for, wasn't it? Or is your aim to write forgettable pieces?) Thanks, and best of luck with your deadlines. And... scene.

You're hilarious LWFS.......well done.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Well, I'm newly edified, is what I am.

I really shouldn't ever judge a single, standalone newspaper column ever again without reading everything the author's ever written. That's the fair way to do it... the Bondy way.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

I've kinda been on the sidelines here cuz I get the Snooze everyday and understand just what Bondy's doing and it does';t raise my eyebrows when he writes something like that.

Yeah, it's kinda douchy, but that's his thing.

[G-Fafif]

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Well, I'm newly edified, is what I am. I really shouldn't ever judge a single, standalone newspaper column ever again without reading everything the author's ever written. That's the fair way to do it... the Bondy way.

"I always think, there might be someone out there in the stands who's never seen me play."
--Joe DiMaggio on why he was still playing hard late in his career

"Go to the morgue and pull my clips to discern my shtick from my subtance."
--Filip Bondy on why he writes as he does

[Fman99]

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Well, I'm newly edified, is what I am. I really shouldn't ever judge a single, standalone newspaper column ever again without reading everything the author's ever written. That's the fair way to do it... the Bondy way.

I'm looking forward to the episode where you call Bondy on the phone to ask him about the roast, and he misses the Mets turning a triple play.

[stevejrogers]

metirish wrote: can you be a douchebag and an elitist?

Michael Kay & John Sterling.

[G-Fafif]

FILIP AND FASTERSTRONGER: A DULL-AS-DURBIN EPISTOLARY TALE (W/link to his Oct. 14 column) Accurate, unbiased, well-considered. Congratulations on nailing it! Francis: Yanks ask Rangers not to overuse Lee in World Series. Want him in tip-top shape for spring training in Tampa... Arrogantly yours, Filip

Every time Lee throws a complete game three-hitter or something like it next year, I will remember this and decide there are worse things than the Phillies, if just barely.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

T'would be a little classless of me to re-forward that to him now, right?

[Guest Edgy DC]

Can't see how.

[Valadius]

Do it. You've gotta hold talking heads accountable.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

You guys are a terrible influence.

I just did it.

#notgigglingatall

[ashie62]

I sent mine 10 minutes ago

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Get a response?

I haven't been able to check mine; my Gmail has been hacked in the interim, and I'm waiting for the admins to "investigate."

[ashie62]

I did..here it is


Congrats on losing him to the Phils.I'm sure everybody down there is thrilled.


As I tweeted in my Daily Haiku:

Next time, we won't spit; 'Cause apparently, those hit; Think Yanks not good fit.

Cheers, filip

(and by the way, as my blog http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/bondy/2010/10/yee-ha.html BEFORE the ALCS series started would indicate, my original column that gained such infamy down there was a satirical piece that somehow flew over the head of Texans)....