Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10

[Guest The Second Spitter]

jeese.
Release Ollie today.
I can mop up this mess.[/quote:9w3ak97b]

The most expensive mop-up man in MLB.

[Guest Edgy DC]

I do appreciate that he got through this nightmare with only three pitchers and wish he was more willing to let pitchers throw multiple innings when they're doing well.

[batmagadanleadoff]

I do appreciate that he got through this nightmare with only three pitchers and wish he was more willing to let pitchers throw multiple innings when they're doing well.

[Guest The Second Spitter]

Would you like to fire Jerry because today, he didn't use K-Rod? Or would you like to fire Jerry because today, Jerry pitched like shit and gave up two touchdowns? Or should Jerry get fired because he was supposed to know that Elmer was gonna give up so many runs, that with hindsight, the smart thing would've been to let Ollie start the game and be done with it already?[/quote:19kgdj5n]

PotW

[Gwreck]

Pre-game ceremony was really nice, as expected. I thought the Mets did a nice job coordinating it and putting some thought into it.
The game was atrocious and came dangerously close to putting me in that "ok, I'm done for the year" thread we have going elsewhere on the board.

I saw Valdes warming up in the 9th inning and about blew a gasket. Once you've given up on the game (and we had when we pulled David and Jose), that's fine, but you then use your starter-cum-mopup man for the rest of the game, no matter what happens (save injury or a 150-pitch count).

[Guest themetfairy]

Once you've given up on the game (and we had when we pulled David and Jose), that's fine, but you then use your starter-cum-mopup man for the rest of the game, no matter what happens (save injury or a 150-pitch count).

[metirish]

Hard for me to feel anything other than bile when I see Perez coming in and walking guys, giving up runs and so on.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

What Irish and GW said about the ceremony. Nice moments abounded, with Cashen being unexpectedly touching.

Artie-- who had her immunizations Friday afternoon, and has been pissy/slightly nauseated since-- was great pregame, then a handful once the fourth hit (in an almost fantastic moment of symmetry, she projectile crapped herself-- and Pops, and Pops' Keith jersey, stupidly worn-- just as Jon Niese did the same in the 4th). Then there was a little vomit just before the second LaRoche job-- I'm telling you, she's a body-fluid oracle-- and a lot of doing laps around the stadium as things went spiraling down into the cesspool. [sorry about no fly-by, TMF, et. al.]

The Ollie booing started the moment he trotted out to the field, as we were finally leaving. If he doesn't go, I have a feeling someone, somewhere is getting shot-- whether Ollie or someone around him.

[ashie62]

huh?

[Zvon]

Niese handles the Cards easy and the Mets have no problem with Adam Wainwright. Five days later, Niese can't do a thing (after three innings) with the D'Backs and Daniel Hudson cruises.
[/quote:4ls9653w]

Does anyone else see a pattern here?
I mean generally speaking, not in terms of Niese.
Like how we are up for tuff teams but not so for teams we should pushover.
I say this in regards to Met teams for quite some time now.

Somebody prove me wrong with the numbers so I can go back to having sweet dreams when I sleep.

[Guest Edgy DC]

it's true of most everybody though. In a game where (1) the best teams win 60% of the time and the worst 40%, and (2) it's a 162-game season with peaks and valleys, there are going to be days when the poorer teams are clicking on all cylanders and the better teams can't do anything right.

But if they're so capable of getting up for the big series, I wish they pulled that off at home against Atlanta in the last series before the sweep.

[Ceetar]

it's true of most everybody though. In a game where (1) the best teams win 60% of the time and the worst 40%, and (2) it's a 162-game season with peaks and valleys, there are going to be days when the poorer teams are clicking on all cylanders and the better teams can't do anything right.

But if they're so capable of getting up for the big series, I wish they pulled that off at home against Atlanta in the last series before the sweep.[/quote:faej3zrj]

Water under the bridge.

If they're capable of getting up for a big series, someone should point out to them that this upcoming 55 (or whatever the numbers are) series is very very important. as is the specific 6 game swing road trip that they should get up for and sweep please.





I don't feel like debating Jerry or Ollie or whatever today. Just gonna say that just because an overall loss is not his fault, doesn't mean I don't see problems with what he did in a game that seem to represent an overall hole in his game that makes me think he should be fired. For instance, resting Castillo likely made no difference, but I'm not sure the overall philosophy of getting Cora time is good for the short or long term Mets and I haven't seen any raeson Castillo can't play day games after night games, etc.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Sounds like you feel like debating.

[seawolf17]

it's true of most everybody though. In a game where (1) the best teams win 60% of the time and the worst 40%, and (2) it's a 162-game season with peaks and valleys, there are going to be days when the poorer teams are clicking on all cylanders and the better teams can't do anything right.[/quote:32ai5bda]
Yes, but the Mets haven't beaten a rookie pitcher since 1972. Even my dog could have told you the Mets weren't scoring yesterday, and he's in last place in our fantasy league. It's the scouting department that needs to be fired, apparently. "Wait! You mean Randy Johnson's not a Diamondback any more?"

[Ceetar]

Sounds like you feel like debating.[/quote:2cga4bk9]

The alternative was going through my email and projects for last week and posting my time.

How about this? Fire Jerry.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Yeah, work is always the lesser alternative. Nobody knows that like I know that.

[seawolf17]

Sounds like you feel like debating.[/quote:2mkouga3]
How about this? Fire Jerry.[/quote:2mkouga3]
End of debate. Well, that wasn't any fun.

[metirish]

Who was the third base coach for the D-Backs , when Keith was walking off the field he gave him a warm greeting and several other Mets types stopped to talk with him.....wearing #7 I think

[TransMonk]

Joel Youngblood

[Guest Edgy DC]

Torre-era ex-Met Joel Youngblood, non-star of my youth. He made an All-Star team once by hitting .350 for the first six weeks of the season and then getting hurt. (Nice!) He played all over the field, nowhere particuarly successfully, but he had a hell of an arm in right. He's one of those all-of-the-tools-but never-got-it-together types.

He never played with Keith, but he spent a long career in the NL around the same time, becoming a big-time bench player in the second half of his career.

He's the first (and I guess only) guy to start a game for one team, get traded, fly to another city, and play for another team that same day.

[Benjamin Grimm]

The full part of that Youngblood trivia is that he was the first (and probably still the only) player ever to get a base hit for two different teams in two different cities on the same day.

[batmagadanleadoff]

The full part of that Youngblood trivia is that he was the first (and probably still the only) player ever to get a base hit for two different teams in two different cities on the same day.[/quote:3fz9jxrs]

The really full part of that trivia question is that Youngblood's two hits came against future Hall of Famers:

Fergie Jenkins (Mets v Cubs)
Steve Carlton (Expos v Phillies)

[Guest Edgy DC]

When Ed Ott bodyslammed Felix Millan in 1978, the secondbase job initially fell to Youngblood. By 1978, he opened splitting time with Bobby Valentine, but both had crap range, and Doug Flynn would move over from short to cover for them for late-inning defense, and soon took the job over completely.

That's his story. A good hitter for an infielder, but merely passable as an outfielder, folks kept trying to sneak him into the lineup in the infield and getting burned for it.

[seawolf17]

This inning sucks. Either suit Johnson up or get him out of there.[/quote:1662hl1i]
Damn, that would have been awesome.

"There's some kind of commotion in the Mets dugout... and it looks like... yes, it looks like Jerry Manuel is being led down the tunnel, kicking and screaming! And that's... that's Davey Johnson in uniform! And Dwight Gooden is throwing up in the bullpen!"

[Willets Point]

And Dwight Gooden is throwing up in the bullpen!"[/quote:2fhokkaw]

Did Doc eat at one of the concession stands that didn't pass the health test?

[metirish]

One thing about Doc , and i have noticed this before, he wears the most ill fitting suits.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

One tining about Doc , and i have noticed this before, he wears the most ill fitting suits.

[seawolf17]

http://www.hulu.com/watch/19187/saturday-night-live-cork-soakers

[bmfc1]

oops

[Zvon]

One tining about Doc , and i have noticed this before, he wears the most ill fitting suits.