Shea Photo Thread

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="Willets Point":332mlpn4]My pictures aren't as good as iubitul's so I accompanied them with some stories and memories.[/quote:332mlpn4] I knew it! Willets is Avi! Seriously, good stuff - I was at banner day in 1987, too - I have some pictures to dig up...

cooby Sep 30 2008 02:21 PM

="AG/DC":3c3yosho]http://www.charitywines.com/home.html[/quote:3c3yosho] Neat, I wish they had Penn State vintage seawolf17 Sep 30 2008 02:30 PM I put my photos from the other night on Facebook: http://www.new.facebook.com/album.php?aid=160399&l=5271e&id=672155021 And blogged my personal greatest Shea memories as well: http://sbuchris.blogspot.com/2008/09/for-last-26-years-i-thank-you.html Willets Point Sep 30 2008 02:36 PM ="seawolf17":1nvfku7y]The Mets, inspired, go on to lose 4-2.[/quote:1nvfku7y] Mwahahaha. themetfairy Sep 30 2008 06:48 PM Tom Seaver and Mr. Met revealing Number 1 - themetfairy Sep 30 2008 07:01 PM ="G-Fafif"]Leiter had a little grin when the boos came. He knew what it was about. Funny how comfortable he seemed slipping back into his Met persona -- just as comfortable as he was dishing/ripping management the next day. That's Al. Foster being booed was both wrong and, if you take common decency out of the equation, almost appropriate. You want to celebrate Met tradition? In the '80s, he was traditionally booed (not by me, but I was outnumbered). I was mildly disappointed on '86 reunion night that Doug Sisk was applauded. It's half a miracle that everything and everybody wasn't booed after the way Sunday's game ended and the long wait to get things going ceremonially speaking. What was with those frigging sandwich boards in the outfield? Make 'em just so! Then ignore 'em! Even Mr. Met was booed when he took down Number 1 to reveal this - Gwreck Sep 30 2008 07:02 PM People weren't booing Mr. Met. They were booing Citi Field. Kong76 Sep 30 2008 07:07 PM Agreed, it was obnoxious that a zero wasn't there and that stupid logo was. themetfairy Sep 30 2008 07:28 PM ="Gwreck":3rrhrm7m]People weren't booing Mr. Met. They were booing Citi Field.[/quote:3rrhrm7m] True. batmagadanleadoff Sep 30 2008 08:04 PM ="themetfairy":1vx5k0gu]Note how the players were wearing uniforms that corresponded with the eras when they played.[/quote:1vx5k0gu] I was pleasantly surprised to see this. The Mets are more likely than not to cheap it up one way or another with these kind of ceremonies. Do you remember one particular '69 Mets reunion Old Timers Game? The players were given trucker style baseball caps. It appears though, that they incorrectly gave Willie Mays the same flannelly jersey the '60's Mets wore. In 1972, the Mets had switched to the modern stretch polyester uniform fabric. Mays never wore the flannelly Mets uniform. I'm going by memory here, but Mays would've been the only invitee that should've worn the polyestery 72-77 uniform. Dave Kingman, for example, had a second stint as a Met in the early '80's, and was given the two button uni that the Mets wore during their bad period. Other polyester 72-77 Mets, like Cleon and Garrett and Seaver and Yogi were also Mets before 1972, and so were able to wear the flannel '60's without violating the accuracy of the presentation. Was this an oversight or did the Mets cheap it up on grounds that it wasn't cost efficient (by what -- a hundred bucks?) to produce just one 72-77 uni? I also noticed that the only '90's Mets invited were also associated with the 2000 pennant winners. There were no pure '90's Mets present. (Edgardo Alfonzo, for example, was primarily a '90's Met, but not exclusively). Nobody there wore the button down racing stripes of 91-92 or the underlined Mets unis of 93-94. Nobody there wore my all time favorite Met unis, the 95-97 unis. Personally, I would have liked to see Anthony Young, among many many others, take a bow, just for the irony of it. [u:1vx5k0gu]On Edit[/u:1vx5k0gu]: Felix Millan belonged in a 72-77 poly uni. Does anyone remember which uni he wore during the ceremonies? SteveJRogers Sep 30 2008 08:14 PM I thought they should have had Franco represent that entire bridge between the 86ers and the Piazza era by wearing the 1986 style jersey and his old 31. For one as bml said, there was no onelse representing that era, and it really was Franco's peak as a Met closer. Hell, he had lost his closing job by the time 1999 rolled around. Thought it was slightly strange to see Foster in the 1982 style as that was the only year he wore them as a Met. Though it probably doesn't fit him anymore, it was nice to see Ed Kranepool don a jersey other than the last one he ever wore as a Met. I mean he was still wearing that yellowed 1979 home jersey during the 1994 1969 tribute! Speaking of 1969. Next year, 40th Anniversary, boy it will be weird seeing them celebrate it when the place where so many of those great moments will be a parking lot. FWIW since 1988 was never recognized, despite 1973 being honored at all the big milestone years, I guess the 99-00 squad will get a nice big combo bash (I hope anyway, it'd be the only way John Olerud returns) in 2010 for their ten year anniversary of the NL Champs. batmagadanleadoff Sep 30 2008 08:16 PM Franco debuted as a Met in 1990. Why would he wear an '86 jersey? Do you think that the actual '86 Mets would want this? This makes no sense. seawolf17 Sep 30 2008 08:21 PM What "pure 90s" Mets would you have wanted there? Bonilla? Jeff Kent? Vince Coleman? Those teams kinda sucked. Maybe Bernard Gilkey or Charlie O would have been cool. I'd vote for Pete Harnisch, but that's just my personal bias. John Cougar Lunchbucket Sep 30 2008 08:24 PM I always thought Butch Huskey was kinda Metly and 90sish. batmagadanleadoff Sep 30 2008 08:27 PM I'm not hung up at all on the idea that pure '90's Mets needed to be invited. I was only noticing though. But since you asked, Olerud for sure. I already mentioned Anthony Young. Todd Hundley. (Was there an issue with Hundley? Maybe he was invited but couldn't attend. I can't remember.) I liked Saberhagen a lot even though he was a bit of an asshole. You can't hold it against any Mets that their teams sucked. Otherwise, most of the invitees would've had to have been uninvited. SteveJRogers Sep 30 2008 08:37 PM ="batmagadanleadoff":1rti000y]Franco debuted as a Met in 1990. Why would he wear an '86 jersey? Do you think that the actual '86 Mets would want this? This makes no sense.[/quote:1rti000y] 1986 style, eh save for the change in pullover to button down and stitched on lettering instead of a nameplate for the NOB remained through 1992. While I agree that the style that came after the tail and before the black shadow and the snow white tops was a great style, Franco really wasn't Franco during those years. batmagadanleadoff Sep 30 2008 08:43 PM ="SteveJRogers":2b4tvqa5] ="batmagadanleadoff":2b4tvqa5]Franco debuted as a Met in 1990. Why would he wear an '86 jersey? Do you think that the actual '86 Mets would want this? This makes no sense.[/quote:2b4tvqa5] 1986 style, eh save for the change in pullover to button down and stitched on lettering instead of a nameplate for the NOB [/quote:2b4tvqa5] You forgot the anniversary patch the 86 Mets wore. That's what mainly distinguished the 86 uni from the 90 uni. You're right about the stitched on lettering, though. If you wanna get hyper technical, the 1990 unis had the Rawlings logo on the right sleeve. The 86 unis had no Mfr. logo on the sleeves. Frayed Knot Sep 30 2008 08:43 PM The more I read this board the more I realize that virtually everyone knows and cares about uniforms A LOT more than I do. SteveJRogers Sep 30 2008 08:48 PM ="seawolf17":19bd7ajf]What "pure 90s" Mets would you have wanted there? Bonilla? Jeff Kent? Vince Coleman? Those teams kinda sucked. Maybe Bernard Gilkey or Charlie O would have been cool. I'd vote for Pete Harnisch, but that's just my personal bias.[/quote:19bd7ajf] Hmmm, not saying I'd want them there, just saying it is odd to see Franco as a representative of the 1998-2001 Mets with Piazza, Zeile, Leiter, Ventura and Alfonzo. Granted he was there, and was the "captain" but I prefer remembering Franco with his # 31 jersey during the "Worst Team Money Can Buy" era. Put it this way, it would be exactly like seeing Kranepool in a replica of his 1979 home jersey out there. Just doesn't seem right even though he was there. SteveJRogers Sep 30 2008 08:52 PM ="batmagadanleadoff":3fgsp7nc] ="SteveJRogers":3fgsp7nc] ="batmagadanleadoff":3fgsp7nc]Franco debuted as a Met in 1990. Why would he wear an '86 jersey? Do you think that the actual '86 Mets would want this? This makes no sense.[/quote:3fgsp7nc] 1986 style, eh save for the change in pullover to button down and stitched on lettering instead of a nameplate for the NOB [/quote:3fgsp7nc] You forgot the anniversary patch the 86 Mets wore. That's what mainly distinguished the 86 uni from the 90 uni. You're right about the stitched on lettering, though. If you wanna get hyper technical, the 1990 unis had the Rawlings logo on the right sleeve. The 86 unis had no Mfr. logo on the sleeves.[/quote:3fgsp7nc] I didn't notice that the versions of the unis the 86ers were wearing out there had the actual 1986 jersey patch. Course they could have been wearing what they got (except for Doc of course) back in 2006, but the point was more the same style THAT the 1986ers were wearing at the ceremony. Not an actual 1986 Franco # 31 jersey that obviously only would be a Cincy Red jersey! batmagadanleadoff Sep 30 2008 08:57 PM The 86 Mets had the anniversary patch, and what appears to be a Majestic Mfr. Logo. The real 86 unis were manufactured by Rawlings; the sleeves were logoless. Mitchell & Ness made the flannelly '60's unis for Shea Goodbye. Apparently, more than one mfr. was involved in producing the various retro jerseys. AG/DC Sep 30 2008 09:21 PM Pure 90s Mets I salute: Rico Brogna Eddie Murray Todd Hundley, I guess Jose Vizcaino Jeff Kent Mlicki Manzanillo Yoshii While I'm in Japan, I salute Takashi Kashiwada, the man who opened Asia to the Mets. Know who'd be a cool invite (and maybe the Countdown Like It Oughta Be thought of this)? Steve Chilcott. themetfairy Oct 01 2008 02:24 AM Here are some pictures from Ralph Kiner Night (July 14, 2007). The view of Citi Field from the Shea tunnel near Gate E - Fans arriving from the subway - Citi Field rising behind Shea - themetfairy Oct 01 2008 02:27 AM Between the old and the new, before the September 14, 2008 Mr. Met Dash - themetfairy Oct 01 2008 06:07 AM This is an old photo. How old? Pre-MiniKnight old - the kid in the backpack is his older brother, who is now significantly taller than I am, and the little girl is now off to college. Oh, and that's me in the middle. In 1994 the Mets entered into a deal that included the installation of Nickelodeon's Extreme Baseball at Shea mini theme park just beyond right field. Living in the City with a 4-year-old and a toddler, ya gotta believe we made a lot of trips to that park. We were there for its opening, due to D-Dad's business connections, playing in the theme park along with some of the Mets who checked it out before that night's game (the only mar in that incredibly fun evening was the news that Dwight Gooden had entered rehab for the second time). When our planned baseball birthday party for our daughter at Shea (yes - there was a time in her life when she was actually into that kind of thing and didn't wince at the thought of baseball) was unworkable due to the strike, we amended the plan and had her party at the Nickelodeon park (for those of you who remember what Nickelodeon was into back then, you'll be amused to know that I was slimed. Slime is kind of like green vanilla pudding with an odd consistency...). This picture, though, was taken at a more routine time. We were at the park one afternoon (possibly 4th of July) and took a tour of Shea that included the clubhouse and the field. The kids and I sat in the Mets dugout while D-Dad took this picture. I generally hate having my picture taken, but this was an occasion that was worthy of an exception - themetfairy Oct 01 2008 06:12 AM This is a picture that iubitul took. D-Dad, a couple of friends and I had just completed the Run to Home Plate. We're in the Shea outfield, and the picture was taken above from the Picnic Area - (Psst - iubitul - did you ever scan the other photos from that day? There are a couple that would be fun to post if you did). G-Fafif Oct 01 2008 06:19 AM Not a photo-related comment but regarding invitees, Todd Hundley did receive a shoutout from Howie Rose when he ran down the list of those who couldn't be with us today. I was struck that the mostly dismal 1991-1996 Mets were represented by John Franco and nobody else, essentially. HoJo, Sid and Doc played on those teams, but aren't associated with them. Fonzie came up in '95, but he is a part of the postseason teams that came later in the mind's eye. So is Franco, I guess. Only because they went to the trouble of tracking down Doug Flynn, Craig Swan and John Stearns (and Mazzilli, I suppose, though he has '86 bona fides), did I get a little hung up on there not being a Rico Brogna (good fit, I hear), a Lance Johnson, or, as suggested, the Anthony Young. themetfairy Oct 01 2008 06:19 AM MK hanging out with some friends during a Mets Fan Club for Kids clinic. I think this was in 2005 - themetfairy Oct 01 2008 06:39 AM On the day I bought my good camera, I took this shot of David Wright connecting for a homer - Time will tell whether this was beginner's luck, but I'm happy with the shot. Benjamin Grimm Oct 01 2008 07:19 AM ="G-Fafif":2bw2zl3t]Not a photo-related comment but regarding invitees, Todd Hundley did receive a shoutout from Howie Rose when he ran down the list of those who couldn't be with us today. I was struck that the mostly dismal 1991-1996 Mets were represented by John Franco and nobody else, essentially. HoJo, Sid and Doc played on those teams, but aren't associated with them. Fonzie came up in '95, but he is a part of the postseason teams that came later in the mind's eye. So is Franco, I guess. Only because they went to the trouble of tracking down Doug Flynn, Craig Swan and John Stearns (and Mazzilli, I suppose, though he has '86 bona fides), did I get a little hung up on there not being a Rico Brogna (good fit, I hear), a Lance Johnson, or, as suggested, the Anthony Young.[/quote:2bw2zl3t] I was thinking along similar lines this morning in the car. There weren't many players present whose careers were strictly in the lean years and the in-between years. There were a few guys from the 1960's, like Frank Thomas, and 70's guys like Flynn, Swan, Stearns, and Kingman, but overall, very few of the returnees were guys who didn't appear in a World Series for the Mets. batmagadanleadoff Oct 01 2008 09:50 AM ="G-Fafif":1bl0kw4g]Only because they went to the trouble of tracking down Doug Flynn, Craig Swan and John Stearns (and Mazzilli, I suppose, though he has '86 bona fides), did I get a little hung up on there not being a Rico Brogna (good fit, I hear), a Lance Johnson, or, as suggested, the Anthony Young.[/quote:1bl0kw4g] Though I would've liked to see Anthony Young walk onto the Shea field last Sunday, as I already mentioned, I did not reasonably expect to see him. Until George Theodore was announced. Once The Stork was delivered, I thought that anything was possible and that everyone was in play. But not Bobby Bonilla. G-Fafif Oct 01 2008 10:05 AM ="batmagadanleadoff":36rnfjz9] ="G-Fafif":36rnfjz9]Only because they went to the trouble of tracking down Doug Flynn, Craig Swan and John Stearns (and Mazzilli, I suppose, though he has '86 bona fides), did I get a little hung up on there not being a Rico Brogna (good fit, I hear), a Lance Johnson, or, as suggested, the Anthony Young.[/quote:36rnfjz9] Though I would've liked to see Anthony Young walk onto the Shea field last Sunday, as I already mentioned, I did not reasonably expect to see him. Until George Theodore was announced. Once The Stork was delivered, I thought that anything was possible and that everyone was in play. But not Bobby Bonilla.[/quote:36rnfjz9] Shea Amnesty could have been the theme and everybody but Vince Coleman could have been welcomed and absolved. I could have applauded Bonilla. I could have applauded Alomar. I could have applauded Hebner just for old times' sake. I think, if sufficiently intoxicated, I could have applauded Glavine. But not Vince Coleman. A.Y., however, needed no amnesty. He was always treated well amid the disaster that went down around him. It would have been a classy Storklike move. themetfairy Oct 01 2008 02:26 PM MiniKnight's first game at Shea - I love how D-Dad caught Mr. Met's pixelated image smiling and waving on the scoreboard in the background. metsguyinmichigan Oct 01 2008 08:40 PM That's Mr. Met bestowing his blessing! Awesome shot! themetfairy Oct 01 2008 09:01 PM D-Dad says thanks soupcan Oct 02 2008 08:58 AM Not a Shea photo per se but still... I was looking through a box of crap in my attic and came across a Mets scorecard from 1985. I thought 'how cool would it be if this was from opening day and I actually scored it?'. I opened it up and guess what - it was and I did. Surprising to me because that opener I drove down from Syracuse with about 6-7 fraternity brothers and sat in the bitter cold of the upper deck. I'm sure I was drunk and my hands were frozen. In those days though I did score pretty much every game I went to. I checked UMDB against my log and I didn't do a half-bad job... Heep appears in the boxscore but not on my card, until you look closer - In the 7th it appears Heep was announced but I suppose Whitey replaced Campbell with Hassler for the lefty/righty thing so John Christensen took the AB. You can see that I wrote Heep's name but then crossed it out. Why was Davey PH-ing Heep for Straw though? Game was tied 5-5 men on first and second 2 out. What am I not seeing or remembering? Also - Note that Staub pinch-hit in the 9th and Darling ran for him. John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 02 2008 09:10 AM Holy shit, nice handwriting. Are you an architect? soupcan Oct 02 2008 09:11 AM Oh gosh really? Thanks. Its usually much neater, I was kind of embarassed to post it because I thought it was pretty sloppy. Not an architect but an illustrator in a previous life. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 09:13 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 02 2008 09:15 AM Strawberry opened the 1985 season hurt. His opening day start was in question and he did not play at all in the Mets next game. He missed a significant amount of playing time in 1985 to injuries. May I ask what frat you belonged to? Centerfield Oct 02 2008 09:13 AM ="themetfairy"]MiniKnight's first game at Shea - I love how D-Dad caught Mr. Met's pixelated image smiling and waving on the scoreboard in the background. That's amazing. MK already looks like himself. Not sure if that made any sense. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 09:17 AM How come my post above displays a "last edited" note even though this is the very next post? soupcan Oct 02 2008 09:19 AM ="batmagadanleadoff"]May I ask what frat you belonged to? Thanks for the Strawberry answer. HahnSolo Oct 02 2008 09:21 AM ="soupcan":3uc7yjo2] In those days though I did score pretty much every game I went to.[/quote:3uc7yjo2] You scored in the Shea upper deck? I should hang out at more games with you. metirish Oct 02 2008 09:24 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 02 2008 09:25 AM Brilliant posts from metfairy and soup...MF , the Mets cap looks over sized....what happened? Great score card soup , I scored my first game ever this season, in the second to last row up top behind home plate. It didn't look anything like yours though... soupcan Oct 02 2008 09:24 AM ="HahnSolo":2y3lkhxq]You scored in the Shea upper deck? I should hang out at more games with you.[/quote:2y3lkhxq] It was a looooong time ago. Its in me but its been hibernating for a while. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 09:29 AM ="soupcan":3jnfvsp6]Thanks for the Strawberry answer.[/quote:3jnfvsp6] That's on Comstock, with a lot of other frat houses, right? Did you see my Sherman Douglas post[/url:3jnfvsp6] from a few days ago? soupcan Oct 02 2008 09:32 AM Yup. 721 Comstock to be exact. I did see the Douglas post, you were right. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 09:33 AM Back on topic. Frayed Knot Oct 02 2008 09:34 AM ="batmagadanleadoff"]Strawberry opened the 1985 season hurt. His opening day start was in question and he did not play at all in the Mets next game. He missed a significant amount of playing time in 1985 to injuries. Most of his missed time was on account of when he rolled over on his thumb making a catch in a game I was at - in mid-May I think it was. ]How come my post above displays a "last edited" note even though this is the very next post? All that means is that you edited something in that post after the thread was active again. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 09:39 AM ="Frayed Knot":nd2dud0e] ="batmagadanleadoff":nd2dud0e]Strawberry opened the 1985 season hurt. His opening day start was in question and he did not play at all in the Mets next game. He missed a significant amount of playing time in 1985 to injuries.[/quote:nd2dud0e] Most of his missed time was on account of when he rolled over on his thumb making a catch in a game I was at - in mid-May I think it was. [/quote:nd2dud0e] You're right. But he opened the season with a nagging injury as well. I have the video of that complete game. I'll try and find it but it may take me a while, because I haven't converted that tape to disc. My old VHS's are a disorganized mess. dgwphotography Oct 02 2008 09:43 AM Soup - that's great stuff. I was sitting down underneath in the loge that day. Freaking Hernandez - strikes out in a big spot leading off the top of the 10th. So unclutch. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 09:49 AM ="Frayed Knot":itaev3d1]All that means is that you edited something in that post after the thread was active again.[/quote:itaev3d1] What do you mean by "thread was active again"? Based on experience, I thought that the "last edited" notation was activated only if the post was edited after someone else posted a subsequent message. soupcan Oct 02 2008 09:55 AM ="batmagadanleadoff":2of6od08]What do you mean by "thread was active again"? Based on experience, I thought that the "last edited" notation was activated only if the post was edited after someone else posted a subsequent message.[/quote:2of6od08] You edited at 11:15. CF posted at 11:13. OE: No, I'm wrong. That's weird. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 10:01 AM ="soupcan":3pdd5j9f] ="batmagadanleadoff":3pdd5j9f]What do you mean by "thread was active again"? Based on experience, I thought that the "last edited" notation was activated only if the post was edited after someone else posted a subsequent message.[/quote:3pdd5j9f] You edited at 11:15. CF posted at 11:13[/quote:3pdd5j9f] I dunno about that. When I originally posted that message, it appeared after CF's post. Why would my subsequent minute later edit appear based on an unedited post showing prior to my post, and thus, prior to my edit? batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 10:02 AM ="soupcan":2yeh8i49]OE: No, I'm wrong. That's weird.[/quote:2yeh8i49] Now you get it. themetfairy Oct 02 2008 10:38 AM ="Centerfield"] ="themetfairy"]MiniKnight's first game at Shea - I love how D-Dad caught Mr. Met's pixelated image smiling and waving on the scoreboard in the background. That's amazing. MK already looks like himself. Not sure if that made any sense. It makes sense. He's recognizable, even at three weeks old. Irish - I'm not sure what was up with the hat. That soon after a C-section I thought I was doing well getting dressed at all seawolf17 Oct 02 2008 12:03 PM Actually, as long as the message has been read at least once, then it gets the "edited" tag. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 02:26 PM ="seawolf17":neearbs2]Actually, as long as the message has been read at least once, then it gets the "edited" tag.[/quote:neearbs2] I'm not convinced because I know for sure that on occasion, I have edited some of my messages as much as a day after posting them. So long as my message in question was always the last one in the thread, the "last edited" note was never triggered. I know that others read the post after it was posted but prior to my edit based on the page view count. So based on my personal use, merely reading a post wouldn't be enough to trigger the edited notation if that post was ever to be edited. AG/DC Oct 02 2008 02:31 PM How about if somebody else had already hit the response button, even if they hadn't submitted? Frayed Knot Oct 02 2008 02:34 PM I think the mods should just confess that they're monitoring all of BatMags movements and activities. Nothing personal mind you, just be careful what you say in the bathroom. You never know who's listening. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 02:47 PM ="Frayed Knot":1klmkujp]I think the mods should just confess that they're monitoring all of BatMags movements and activities. Nothing personal mind you, just be careful what you say in the bathroom. You never know who's listening.[/quote:1klmkujp] That's what I always thought. Do you know that my avatar disappeared mysteriously? And that the feature that would allow me to simply submit another avatar is missing from my control panel or whatever it's called? What do you make of that, huh? dgwphotography Oct 02 2008 02:55 PM I don't remember if I've posted this one before: Fireworks Night, July 3, 2006: soupcan Oct 02 2008 03:02 PM Wow. cooby Oct 02 2008 03:37 PM ="soupcan":1twkt7gk] In those days though I did score pretty much every game I went to.[/quote:1twkt7gk] HAHAHAH, I am sure though that by now somebody else has already beaten me to this line, I'll go back and look cooby Oct 02 2008 03:40 PM Yep! themetfairy Oct 02 2008 03:50 PM ="Iubitul":2bej8qlv]I don't remember if I've posted this one before: Fireworks Night, July 3, 2006: [/quote:2bej8qlv] Whether it's a rerun or not, it's gorgeous. soupcan Oct 02 2008 04:48 PM ="cooby":1hpi6tfp] ="soupcan":1hpi6tfp] In those days though I did score pretty much every game I went to.[/quote:1hpi6tfp] HAHAHAH, I am sure though that by now somebody else has already beaten me to this line, I'll go back and look[/quote:1hpi6tfp] DOH! I didn't realize HahnSolo was taking the piss! I'm a moron. metsguyinmichigan Oct 02 2008 07:27 PM ="themetfairy":2i6sr6pi] ="Iubitul":2i6sr6pi]I don't remember if I've posted this one before: Fireworks Night, July 3, 2006: [/quote:2i6sr6pi] Whether it's a rerun or not, it's gorgeous.[/quote:2i6sr6pi] Clearly you're too good at this for it to just be a hobby. Are you a professional? I'm just in awe. I snapped shots of some of the same small details that you did -- like the little NYs in the grates around the trees -- yet you picked a really cool, unconventional angle to shoot it. Beautiful and creative. dgwphotography Oct 03 2008 12:32 AM ="metsguyinmichigan"] Clearly you're too good at this for it to just be a hobby. Are you a professional? I'm just in awe. I snapped shots of some of the same small details that you did -- like the little NYs in the grates around the trees -- yet you picked a really cool, unconventional angle to shoot it. Beautiful and creative. Thanks metsguy. I'm not a professional, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night... Seriously, it's a hobby - I'm a web developer by trade. But, it's also a passion that centers me. I can have a completely lousy day at work, but if I get to spend 15 productive minutes behind my camera, I'm completely relaxed and centered... Here's a couple of oldies. Please ignore the quality - my film scanner isn't working, so I had to scan the prints on a flatbed... July 4, 1986 - Nolan Ryan pitching to Gary Carter: September 18, 1986 - The best part of this pic is Backman's expression. Hungover much? John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 03 2008 05:46 AM Just look how much better those old shots look without Keyspan signs, giant dunkin donuts cups, too-dark blue paint, etc etc. This thread is going to make me dig out what I can find, but I'll start with this classikc: batmagadanleadoff Oct 03 2008 08:24 AM ="Iubitul":1jek1hyd]I don't remember if I've posted this one before: Fireworks Night, July 3, 2006: [/quote:1jek1hyd] I was surprised to read that you're not a pro. Professional is the first word that came to my mind when I saw this beautiful picture of Shea with the fireworks. Where were you sitting (or standing) when you took the picture of Carter batting against Ryan? AG/DC Oct 03 2008 08:33 AM If I remember him describing that photo last year, he put his camera down, satisfied he got the shot he wanted, and noticed the Mets team photographer right next to him going for the same shot. seawolf17 Oct 03 2008 08:34 AM Lost in that shot is the kid in the Wright shirt, bottom right corner, watching the fireworks. A nice touch. dgwphotography Oct 03 2008 11:56 AM ="batmagadanleadoff":2duv67l2]Where were you sitting (or standing) when you took the picture of Carter batting against Ryan?[/quote:2duv67l2] Thanks :-) I was able to sneak down to the first row behind home plate - got a lot of good shots that were on KC's site. dgwphotography Oct 03 2008 12:04 PM ="AG/DC":1gfkczpr]If I remember him describing that photo last year, he put his camera down, satisfied he got the shot he wanted, and noticed the Mets team photographer right next to him going for the same shot.[/quote:1gfkczpr] That was the first time I shot the fireworks, back in 1990. They had a photo contest sponsored by Kodak every year - I had won in the memorabilia category in 1989, and had my picture in the 1990 yearbook. So, I had the idea to try and shoot the fireworks that July - that's when I ran into Marc Lavine. When the 1991 yearbook came, and I saw his fireworks shot on the cover, I knew there was no way that mine made it into the yearbook. There's a post script to that story: I ran into Marc again in 2006. I snuck around to behind home plate in loge to take pictures of Mike Pelfrey in his ML debut. Marc was standing in the walkway right next to me. A security guard came over and started giving Marc a hard time about standing there. I leaned over the railing and asked him, "What, doesn't he recognize you?" Gotta love the security at Shea. Kong76 Oct 03 2008 05:44 PM The old school stuff is still there if anyone wants to re-explore .... http://www.kcmets.com/DGWPhotography/photonew1.htm metsguyinmichigan Oct 03 2008 05:48 PM I love the wallpaper shot of Reyes as a B-Met! SteveJRogers Oct 03 2008 06:25 PM ="Iubitul":2lf7a8xg] They had a photo contest sponsored by Kodak every year - I had won in the memorabilia category in 1989, and had my picture in the 1990 yearbook.[/quote:2lf7a8xg] I'm shocked that a Nikonian like you would stoop so low as to enter a contest run by Kodak! = dgwphotography Oct 03 2008 06:43 PM ="SteveJRogers":38evkptp] ="Iubitul":38evkptp] They had a photo contest sponsored by Kodak every year - I had won in the memorabilia category in 1989, and had my picture in the 1990 yearbook.[/quote:38evkptp] I'm shocked that a Nikonian like you would stoop so low as to enter a contest run by Kodak! =[/quote:38evkptp] Film, Steve. Film. I loved Kodak 64 slide film. Actually, starting in 1995, Kodak offered the DCS460[/url:38evkptp]. It was a 6mp digital camera which used a Nikon N90s SLR for the body. soupcan Oct 03 2008 09:07 PM ="Iubitul":2hzt6uz2]That was the first time I shot the fireworks, back in 1990. They had a photo contest sponsored by Kodak every year - I had won in the memorabilia category in 1989, and had my picture in the 1990 yearbook. [/quote:2hzt6uz2] So I read this and flipped through my '90 yearbook - holy cow - is (was) all that stuff in the picture yours? G-Fafif Oct 04 2008 04:04 AM I ran back to the '90 yearbook as well and was quite impressed with the collection as well as the photograph. A copy of "Nails" even! I'll bet Lenny Dykstra never read it. dgwphotography Oct 04 2008 05:28 AM Thanks guys. Yes, all that stuff in the picture is mine, and that collection has only grown... Of course I have a copy of Nails, my wife was such a big Dykstra fan, she even, gulp, rooted for the Phillies for a while when he got traded... soupcan Oct 06 2008 07:57 AM Taken on Opening Day 1987... Notice that there are no neon players on Shea yet. Sorry about the quality - haven't figured out the best settings for photos on the scanner yet. metirish Oct 06 2008 08:06 AM Those are great pictures soup , maybe it's the contrast but it looks cold and bleak that day.Is that guy wearing a batting helmet? DocTee Oct 06 2008 08:07 AM If you hadn't told me those were from 1987, I'd ve guessed they were from a decade earlier (based on the vehicles in the parking lot). AG/DC Oct 06 2008 08:08 AM Old school. That's how Met fans roll. soupcan Oct 06 2008 08:15 AM ="metirish":1lvfa5e8]Those are great pictures soup , maybe it's the contrast but it looks cold and bleak that day.Is that guy wearing a batting helmet?[/quote:1lvfa5e8] Cold and bleak - yes. Batting helmet - yes. ="DocTee":1lvfa5e8]If you hadn't told me those were from 1987, I'd ve guessed they were from a decade earlier (based on the vehicles in the parking lot).[/quote:1lvfa5e8] I agree - isn't it funny how its always the cars in photos that give a person a sense of the age of the picture? ="AG/DC":1lvfa5e8]Old school. That's how Met fans roll.[/quote:1lvfa5e8] Damn skippy. soupcan Oct 06 2008 08:31 AM Notice no skyline on the scoreboard. Round cut-outs in foul territory on either side of the plate. Never knew what those were for until I watched a DVD of game 4 of the '69 Series. During player intros before the game, Cuellar was warming up in it, tossing from there. Can you see straw-hat, hand-rolling lady in the front row behind homeplate? That's before they added the additional VIP seats and effectively put her 10 or so rows back. What the heck's going on at second base? AG/DC Oct 06 2008 08:37 AM I like the life-size bendable plastic Keith Hernandez figure out there. Nothing says "dreary opening day" like Ralph Kiner walking alone through the shade in his raincoat. soupcan Oct 06 2008 09:06 AM You think that's Ralph? I was going to guess Cashen. metirish Oct 06 2008 09:07 AM I was thinking M. Donald Grant . soupcan Oct 06 2008 09:08 AM He was long gone by then. metirish Oct 06 2008 09:08 AM Of course he wasn't even with the mets then...never mind me. Actually I meant Nelson Doubleday but I'm still probably wrong. soupcan Oct 06 2008 09:23 AM That could be Nelson. I don't think his hair was completely white yet in '87. batmagadanleadoff Oct 06 2008 09:24 AM I think it's Cashen, though it's hard to tell. I don't think it's Kiner; that's not Ralph's way of walking. AG/DC Oct 06 2008 09:26 AM Funny, I think that's exactly what makes him look Kineriffic. Funnier still is that I doubt either of us has seen Kiner walk more than a handful of times, but we both have a distinctive impression. Among other reasons, I think it's Ralph because he appears to be coming from a press scrum. batmagadanleadoff Oct 06 2008 09:31 AM ="soupcan"]That could be Nelson. I don't think his hair was completely white yet in '87. Maybe not, but it was surely on its way. That was the first game back since Wilpon wrested away Nelson's controlling interest in the club. Straw and Keith went at each other that Spring. Doc was in Smithers and at age 22, would never be consistently great again. Backman's "forty fuckin' car crashes" was already proving prophetic figuratively, if not literally. John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 06 2008 09:41 AM I would guess Doubleday. themetfairy Oct 06 2008 09:50 AM A couple of pictures from the 1987 opener - Opening ceremonies - First Pitch - John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 06 2008 09:57 AM Check out skinny Barry soupcan Oct 06 2008 10:00 AM Nice ones Fairy. Apparently you had much better seats than me... AG/DC Oct 06 2008 10:00 AM I like the area around the apple hat, strewn with empty crates and lurking hoods. metirish Oct 06 2008 10:03 AM I like how metfairy's picture helps answer who the people out in center field are in the picture soup posted, kind of cool that two members can post similar pictures for the same opening day in 1987. Farmer Ted Oct 06 2008 10:09 AM Any photos of Banner Day in the archives? Those would a nice treat. themetfairy Oct 06 2008 10:11 AM ="soupcan":19xbemwi]Nice ones Fairy. Apparently you had much better seats than me...[/quote:19xbemwi] Thanks soup. I worked for a law firm in 1987. There were only two good things about the job. One was my office (Empire State Building, 49th Floor, southern view) and the other was that the firm had season tickets and one of the partners would occasionally offer two of the seats to D-Dad and me. themetfairy Oct 06 2008 11:23 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 06 2008 11:45 AM I went into the old photo albums to scan some pictures from 1994's Nickelodeon's Extreme Baseball at Shea experiment. These are from the VIP Opening Party on June 28, 1994. I have pictures of each of my kids at about age 2 with John Franco. This is the one with my older son - We wouldn't have wanted to try to wipe the smile off of Bobby Bo's face - Back in 1994, we had no reason to dislike Jose Vizcaino - themetfairy Oct 06 2008 11:25 AM July 4, 1994. I previously posted the picture of myself with the kids in the dugout. Here are some other photos from that day. From the stadium tour that we took that day - themetfairy Oct 06 2008 11:30 AM Those of you who know my daughter now will be shocked to hear that there was a time she actually rooted for the Mets. We planned to have her 5th birthday at a game at Shea, but the plans were changed on account of strike. We had the birthday at the Nickelodeon park instead. The birthday girl - Cute cake - If you remember Nickelodeon at the time, slime was a big thing. The birthday girl didn't want to be slimed herself, but wanted to slime her mom instead. Let it not be said that I've never done anything for that girl - metirish Oct 06 2008 11:41 AM Absolutely classic , the clothes the uniforms , the sunglasses , everything. We need a thread for classic Mets and Shea pictures like these. Benjamin Grimm Oct 06 2008 12:02 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 06 2008 12:04 PM .. Benjamin Grimm Oct 06 2008 12:03 PM I've been thinking of putting a Shea slideshow on the UMDB. I have a few pictures of my own of the "Shea experience" that I've taken over the last couple of years. Some with architectural details, some of fans crowding through the gates, etc. I've been meaning to ask for submissions of similar photos, and I guess this is as good a time and place as any to start. I'm more interested in "neutral" photos rather than those that feature smiling friends or family members. Some of the photos posted in this thread would be great for that. If anyone who's posted any photos objects to the pictures being used in this manner, please let me know. (I intend to specifically ask permission to use any of these before I actually do so.) A couple of weeks ago I created a prototype slide show. Take a peek if you like: http://www.leaptoad.com/mets/slidetest.php Some day there will be similar slideshows available to all visitors, and they'll have individual themes. Right now I'm slowly putting together one that will capture the events surrounding the final day at Shea Stadium. themetfairy Oct 06 2008 12:32 PM Nice slideshow BG. And I have no objection if you'd like to use any photo that I've posted on the UMDB metirish Oct 06 2008 12:34 PM I like the prototype, nice work. themetfairy Oct 06 2008 06:07 PM May 30, 1999 was a Beanie Babies giveaway day at Shea. I was writing for Mary Beth's Bean Bag World Magazine at the time, and i was able to get press credentials for the game. I was constantly expecting security to tap me on the shoulder and tell me that I didn't belong on the field, but they didn't. Here's my press pass - Diamond Vision - D-Dad took this shot of me from the Field Level - Olerud and the Shea Scoreboard - The Diamond Vision later, from the Upper Deck - Pictures of players to follow.... themetfairy Oct 06 2008 06:12 PM Most of the players were incredibly good sports about having their picture taken with the Beanie Baby du Jour. My big regret was not asking Bobby Valentine for a picture, A) because he would have; and it was a Valentina Beanie Baby. The only one who turned me down was Todd Pratt, but since he was signing autographs at the time I'll give him a pass on that. Rey Ordonez - Roger Cedeno (whose solo homer provided the Mets with their only run as they lost that day) - Edgardo Alfonzo - Mike Piazza (who not only posed for this picture, but graciously gave me a little blather quote for my article) - Benny Agbayani - Fman99 Oct 06 2008 08:08 PM Great pictures MetFairy. How awesome to see those guys being good sports. Man I loved that '99 squad. themetfairy Oct 06 2008 08:23 PM They were a great bunch, for sure. cooby Oct 06 2008 09:16 PM NICE seawolf17 Oct 07 2008 12:57 PM Funny photos. What a neat experience. themetfairy Oct 07 2008 01:41 PM Thanks. It was surreal, and very cool soupcan Oct 13 2008 07:27 AM No seats! AG/DC Oct 13 2008 07:44 AM Well, that one guy has a seat. I think we can take him. metsguyinmichigan Oct 13 2008 09:51 AM He's guarding the stop sign before the people from MeiGray come to pick it up for the auction. soupcan Oct 15 2008 08:46 PM Found these pictures in a thread at baseball fever... AG/DC Oct 15 2008 09:44 PM Agh. themetfairy Oct 16 2008 04:42 AM That one gave me a bad dream last night Benjamin Grimm Oct 16 2008 08:13 AM I found this one the most painful: metirish Oct 16 2008 08:14 AM Great pictures , thanks soup. AG/DC Oct 16 2008 08:24 AM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ut1H4o_ie8c metirish Oct 16 2008 08:50 AM Great song edgy , a blast form the past. dgwphotography Oct 16 2008 09:01 AM I think I'm going through the anger phase of mourning. I'm sure I'll come around, but right now, I just so angry over everything regarding the dismantling of Shea, and the move to his corporate playground. Through it all, I keep getting the feeling that Shea was ours, and CitiField belongs to him. Bastard. AG/DC Oct 16 2008 09:19 AM I don'think it's us against him when the vast majority of the fans and media supported the move. If so, it's a slender us. Farmer Ted Oct 16 2008 10:52 AM Painful. But ther new place will be a treat. themetfairy Oct 16 2008 11:06 AM The new place will be ours. We'll make it ours, dammit! G-Fafif Oct 16 2008 03:51 PM Tour[/url:24y3xk17] of Citi Field parking lot... metirish Oct 16 2008 06:05 PM Whats with the actual hole in the pitchers mound? Benjamin Grimm Oct 16 2008 06:53 PM I'm guessing there was something buried under the mound that they wanted to retrieve. I don't have a great guess as to what it was. My best guess is some kind of camera, but I don't recall seeing any mounds-eye views on any telecasts. soupcan Oct 16 2008 07:06 PM ="metirish":35vh26wx]Whats with the actual hole in the pitchers mound?[/quote:35vh26wx] I'm guessing that they dug up the pitching rubber - to sell it of course - and that hole is a result. dgwphotography Oct 16 2008 07:18 PM no - I think that was where the plumbing was for the hose they used to water down the infield.... soupcan Oct 17 2008 07:31 AM ="Iubitul"]no - I think that was where the plumbing was for the hose they used to water down the infield.... Makes more sense. Wonder how much they're selling that for Zvon Oct 19 2008 06:48 PM I didn't realize this til recently. I thought I was bummed at seasons end because the team failed to get to the post season. But being a Met fan for 40 years, this is really something I'm used to. For the team, there was/is always next year. But this was it for Shea.... This is what really bummed me out. That they couldn't get Shea to the post season one more time. That would have been the way send her off. Great pictures here posted by all, and really fun to view. Iubitul, your pictures of Shea are breathtaking. Absolutely breathtaking and beautiful. Everybody, thanks for sharing them. themetfairy Oct 19 2008 06:51 PM Warewolf! Good to see you, man. Don't be a stranger! metirish Oct 20 2008 12:29 PM Found this persons work over at Faith & Fear( looks like a few have been posted here already) , very extensive collection of great pictures. What does picture #40 show? picnic area? http://sports.webshots.com/album/568107635SUQZeD Read this from Jason over at Faith and Fear. http://www.faithandfearinflushing.com/ Farmer Ted Oct 20 2008 07:37 PM Where the heck are they storing 55,000 seats? metsguyinmichigan Oct 21 2008 08:21 AM Uniwatch reports that the Agee marker appears to have been saved! Willets Point Oct 21 2008 08:25 AM ="Farmer Ted"]Where the heck are they storing 55,000 seats? dgwphotography Oct 22 2008 04:55 AM ="metsguyinmichigan"] Uniwatch reports that the Agee marker appears to have been saved! Yeah - probably to be sold... soupcan Oct 22 2008 07:40 AM Farmer Ted Oct 22 2008 02:52 PM I share Belushi's reaction. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gI3nb9x5VhY Zvon Oct 22 2008 06:11 PM ="soupcan"] Oh my.... This is difficult to witness. PiggiesTomatoes Oct 24 2008 08:29 PM A couple of shots from my only game this season -- at least it was a win. The only win against the pitiful Mariners this season. Down in Tampa now and don't get back to NY all that often for games. > My basehit at Shea. Fantasy Camp reunion in 2006... The place may have been a bit of a dump but it was our dump. Rockin' Doc Oct 25 2008 05:37 AM Nice pictures. Welcome to the pool. Nice handle, I hope you stick around. metirish Oct 25 2008 05:46 AM ="PiggiesTomatoes":2399a9u7] The place may have been a bit of a dump but it was our dump.[/quote:2399a9u7] Thank you and welcome. metsguyinmichigan Oct 25 2008 01:01 PM Great photos! I can't imagine how glorious it was to get that hit. Welcome aBordick! themetfairy Oct 25 2008 01:43 PM This little piggy is a welcome addition to the Pool - Welcome Zvon Oct 25 2008 07:00 PM Excellent pics Piggie! Actually batting at Shea must have been an incredible experience. Is that a female catcher? PiggiesTomatoes Oct 25 2008 07:59 PM Thanks, everyone, for the kind words. I'd joined some time ago but didn't visit for a while, then got locked out and getting back in was a bitch! Riffraff filter must work. Getting to play on the field was a thrill and yes, it was a female catcher. She was the only female in camp and was a trooper. Regards, JF Kong76 Oct 26 2008 05:03 PM PT: joined some time ago but didn't visit for a while, then got locked out and getting back in was a bitch! Riffraff filter must work <<< Read your email around 9 AM on Fri and answered, and had you set up before 6 PM that same day. No one was locked out and getting back was as easy as sending an email. PiggiesTomatoes Oct 26 2008 07:33 PM I wasn't being critical...thought that use of the term riffraff filter would have communicated sarcasm. That said, I'd attempted logging in unsuccessfully with my original password without luck and when I tried to use the forgot password link, I repeatedly received a message that my name and email address did not match. Then, I was unable to find an email address on the forum to contact, ultimately "googling" to find the admin addy. It wasn't easy...but I do appreciate the prompt reply once I emailed the correct address. JF G-Fafif Oct 26 2008 07:38 PM PT, Great pictures. At first glance I wondered how the Mariners game was suddenly being played in daylight. Per your sobriquet, let us know who will be ready first: Hausman or Kobel. Kong76 Oct 27 2008 05:41 AM Maybe it's me and I'm just being cranky and defensive but the email address is right up top: Everybody in the pool! Joining us for off-season hot stove discussion is easy. Shoot us an email [click here] Glad you re-found us. Willets Point Oct 27 2008 01:12 PM Welcome Piggie! You can hold the conch while you're here. soupcan Oct 28 2008 10:54 AM will the Dunkin' Dounts cup be the last man standing? metirish Oct 28 2008 10:57 AM Helps keep the workers running. Gwreck Oct 28 2008 11:46 AM It's somewhat refreshing that nobody was dumb enough to shell out the ~$5000 the greedy MeiGray group was asking for it. AG/DC Oct 28 2008 11:47 AM Or they're moving it to the new digs. seawolf17 Oct 28 2008 01:12 PM It'd be funny if they just left it in the parking lot. Benjamin Grimm Oct 28 2008 01:22 PM They do seem to have demolished around it. Maybe it will be moved to Citi Field. I imagine the new place will have some advertising, no? SteveJRogers Oct 28 2008 01:23 PM ="Gwreck":1zlwh6r8]It's somewhat refreshing that nobody was dumb enough to shell out the ~$5000 the greedy MeiGray group was asking for it.[/quote:1zlwh6r8] Say what you will about memorabilia sellers like MeiGray and Steiner, that probably really is the going rate for that kind of unique advertising as memorabilia. Honestly, there probably is a market for stuff like that; McDonald arches, Big Boys Big Boy, etc. Just no one that got involved in the Shea Memorabilia auctions was into it. metirish Oct 28 2008 01:28 PM ="SteveJRogers":1991yy98] Say what you will about memorabilia sellers like MeiGray and Steiner,[/quote:1991yy98] Thank you , I will. Fucking scum they are. Benjamin Grimm Oct 28 2008 01:33 PM I'm not sure I understand the animosity. metirish Oct 28 2008 01:39 PM Well he said say what you want so I did.... soupcan Oct 28 2008 02:15 PM I guess as long as there are people out there who are willing to pay those ridiculous prices then I don't have an issue with someone charging it. Capitalism and all that. I am upset at the kind of money they are asking for stuff though. I intended to get a pair of seats but $869.00? Really? For what will amount to a novelty in my yard? Then I looked around the website and I thought that this: ...would be cool. But those are up over $1,200.00. They so take advantage of our own feelings towards the team - hundreds of dollars for bricks, almost a grand for seats. Its just a little disappointing is all. soupcan Nov 01 2008 11:01 AM Say goodbye to the shrimpeaters! Field level frst base side is the first to go. Valadius Nov 01 2008 11:21 AM Do they HAVE to have debris strewn around that wonderful field? Kong76 Nov 01 2008 11:26 AM SJR: Say what you will about memorabilia sellers like MeiGray <<< Irish: Thank you , I will. Fucking scum they are <<< I know the guy who was the first premier club guy in line and I didn't get the impression that the guys willing to spend the cash thought MeiGray was hus- tling anyone ... they're brokers. He advertised the event to everyone on his memorabilia buying list and I assume he did so to generate interest among those who were obviously interested. I hope he got a kick back, it's the American way! I wrote back that they're gonna cause a few divorces to which he quipped, "never tell your wife what you're really spending on Mets' stuff!" soupcan Nov 01 2008 11:49 AM ="Valadius":3pluypt1]Do they HAVE to have debris strewn around that wonderful field?[/quote:3pluypt1] I think that's kinda unavoidable when you're tearing a structure down. What are they supposed to do - follow the bulldozers around with a broom and dustpan? metsmarathon Nov 01 2008 02:40 PM that's just silly. what they should do is gingerly remove each and every peice the way it was originally put in, and delicately hand carry it out of the stadium grounds, stepping only on the red carpet laid across the field, and place each dutifully salvaged quantum of the stadium into its own velvet lined receptacle wherein it will remain interred through the end of time. soupcan Nov 03 2008 07:55 AM Dunkin' Donuts Down! Benjamin Grimm Nov 03 2008 07:57 AM I expected it would be surrounded by a large puddle of spilled coffee. soupcan Nov 03 2008 07:57 AM Link There are more pictures on the site. ] November 1, 2008 Bulk of Shea Stadium awaits sale in Bridgewater company's warehouse By MICHAEL DEAK Staff Writer From the outside it looks like an unremarkable warehouse, not like the pyramids in Egypt that were built as mausoleums for the pharaohs. But inside that squat warehouse are treasures that, for New York Mets fans, are as valuable as anything that has ever been found inside the pyramids. It is the Bridgewater warehouse of the MeiGray Group, which has the task of selling all the contents of Shea Stadium, except for the seats. Warren resident Barry Meisel, a former sportswriter for the New York Daily News who is the president and chief operating officer of the MeiGray Group, doesn't want the exact location of the warehouse disclosed for security reasons because it houses thousands of items saved from Shea Stadium before the stadium's slow demolition started earlier this month. Everything is for sale, except for two items that Meisel bought for himself � a picture of the celebration after the Mets clinched the World Series in 1969, and the portion of the center field wall that bears the 410-foot marker. "I always wanted that," he said. Memorabilia Meisel estimated that the warehouse contains from 5,000 to 7,000 items from Shea Stadium. Some of the items are relatively minor, such as the hundreds of nameplates that were placed on the back of seats occupied by season ticket holders. There are numerous boxes of photographs taken from the walls of corridors, executive offices, suites and inside the stadium. The pictures are blown-up images of legendary Mets and the unforgettable moments from the team's 46-year history. In the middle of the warehouse is a nondescript pile of wood found at any demolition site. But, Meisel said, it is a special pile of wood � boards from benches in both the home and visiting team dugouts. The boards were never replaced in the dugouts but have been painted many times, he said. Also in the middle of the warehouse are the 150-foot foul poles that have been broken into 25-foot sections. There are rows of lockers from both the Mets and visitors' locker rooms, as well as cubicles from where players hung their clothes and kept their valuables during games. Throughout the warehouse are piles of outfield wall sections including the retired numbers of players and managers. Flags that flew at the top of the stadium have also found a home in the warehouse. There also are hundreds of signs from throughout the stadium � signs that hung on restroom doors and signs that directed fans to the subway station. A sign of team mascot Mr. Met saying smoking is prohibited in the stadium has already been sold for $100, Meisel said. And there are hundreds of curiosities: an orange water cooler with the Mets logo and a plaque from Seton Hall University honoring Frank Cashen, who was the Mets general manager in the 1980s and considered to be the architect of the team that won the 1986 World Series. There is even a lime marker that came from the Polo Grounds, the original home of the Mets, that was still used by the grounds crew at Shea. Toward the front of the warehouse is a cluster of fan assistance, concession and program booths that Meisel said would look great in any Met fan's backyard. One of the most intriguing items is the concrete marker that was placed in the left field upper deck where centerfielder Tommie Agee hit the longest home run in Shea Stadium's history, on April 10, 1969. Some of the most popular items salvaged from the stadium are not in the warehouse because they've already been sold. All of the stadium's 31 turnstiles have been sold. It was a daunting job, but all of the items were recovered from Shea Stadium after the last game of the season. Swing bidder Many of the items from Shea will be auctioned on the MeiGray's group's Web site. The first auction ended Friday, Oct. 31, but Meisel said there will be future monthly auctions. He estimates it will take a year to sell everything from the stadium. Proceeds from the sale will be divided among New York City, which owns the stadium, and the Mets Foundation, said Jay Horowitz, vice president of media relations for the Mets. The Mets Foundation funds and promotes a variety of charitable causes, including educational, social and athletic programs for young people. What people are willing to pay for some of the items has Meisel scratching his head. For example, the wrought-iron "tree surrounds" with the Mets logo that protected the trees in the parking lot are receiving bids of more than $1,000. Menu board signs from concession stands are fetching bids around $1,000. A section of the outfield wall goes for close to $900. Bids on ketchup and mustard holders with the Mets logo are more than $500. Even a neon Bud Light sign has a bid of $515. As a literal sign of better times, an outfield wall panel with an AIG advertisement had a bid of $1,420. "This (sale) only happens once every 45 years," Meisel said. A Jersey boy Meisel and his partner Bob Gray started the MeiGray Group in the 1990s. After 19 years as a sportswriter for the Daily News covering professional hockey and the New York Giants, Meisel said he became tired of traveling. Meisel's decision to channel his interest in sports into a new career came at an opportune time. With the economy growing steadily, the market for collectible sports memorabilia began to boom in the late 1990s. He developed the idea of selling authenticated jerseys that were worn by professional hockey players. He wrote a business plan and approached one of the teams that he used to cover, the New York Rangers, and in August 1997 signed an exclusive deal to sell the team's previously worn jerseys. The Rangers deal led to agreements with the New Jersey Devils. Next, the MeiGray group inked deals with NBA teams. An NHL or NBA player goes through about six jerseys during a season, three in the home uniform and three in the away uniforms, he said. Last week, as Meisel was sitting in the warehouse, he showed a jersey that had been worn the previous night by Elton Brand, an NBA veteran free agent, who had made his debut as a Philadelphia 76er on the night of Wednesday, Oct. 29. "It smells," Meisel said. "It's sweaty." But it's also valuable to collectors and fans of Brand. That's why representatives, working with the teams' equipment managers, of the MeiGray Group often go into locker rooms immediately after games to get the jerseys. The key to the business, headquartered in Branchburg, is the authentication process that guarantees buyers they are getting genuine items. The jersey comes with a letter of authentication with the team's letterhead, Meisel said. The MeiGray Group has seven full-time employees who are responsible for acquiring the items, cataloging and pricing them, selling them and then shipping them to the buyers. "We have a great staff," Meisel said, adding that he hires collectors to help him put values on the items. The company's growing reputation was one of the reasons why the MeiGray Group got the contract with the Mets to sell the memorabilia from Shea Stadium, which is owned by the City of New York. Meisel is no longer spending hours away from home traveling for his job, but said he works from 60 to 70 hours a week. "I'm happy," he said. "This is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity." John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 03 2008 07:58 AM ="soupcan"]Dunkin' Donuts Down! Finally some destruction I can support. It be cool if we cracked that open and Rachel Ray would come out naked. Edgy DC Nov 03 2008 08:01 AM it would be kind of cool to give the Agee marker to the Agee family. Ditto the Seaver/Stengel/Hodges numbers. Farmer Ted Nov 03 2008 08:42 AM The DD sign was an eyesore. Those stupid police lights and the K sign were bad ideas drawn up by some idiot in a board room. Edgy DC Nov 03 2008 08:47 AM Doesn't this look like they composed a Met jersey and photoshopped it onto a Yankee picture of Wille? metirish Nov 03 2008 08:48 AM ] Finally some destruction I can support. It be cool if we cracked that open and Rachel Ray would come out naked. Saw her recently and couldn't believe how heavy she has gotten. Benjamin Grimm Nov 03 2008 08:55 AM Rachael Ray is an example of how someone can be both cute AND unappealing at the same time. Edgy DC Nov 03 2008 08:58 AM Can we just not talk about happy homemakers from TV ever? Benjamin Grimm Nov 03 2008 09:04 AM metsguyinmichigan Nov 03 2008 09:53 AM ="Benjamin Grimm":2zdqcdh1]Rachael Ray is an example of how someone can be both cute AND unappealing at the same time.[/quote:2zdqcdh1] Well, if you go back to the early shows on Food Network, she was always a little chunky, part of her girl next door appeal. She certainly had a makeover when the show went big, and this year appeared to have some, um, surgical enhancements, in the chest area, unless they did some severe Photoshop work for the magazine covers. My crush on Rachael is well-known, and somewhat tolerated by my wife. Benjamin Grimm Nov 03 2008 11:14 AM It's not her weight that makes her unappealing, it's the noises that come out of her mouth. G-Fafif Nov 03 2008 11:42 AM ="Edgy DC":2j9ucmx8]Doesn't this look like they composed a Met jersey and photoshopped it onto a Yankee picture of Wille? [/quote:2j9ucmx8] This would explain why the Mets in recent years seemed so flat. metsguyinmichigan Nov 03 2008 12:10 PM ="Benjamin Grimm":1wzmvwjl]It's not her weight that makes her unappealing, it's the noises that come out of her mouth.[/quote:1wzmvwjl] She talks? Benjamin Grimm Nov 03 2008 12:17 PM She tries. themetfairy Nov 03 2008 01:02 PM She squawks. seawolf17 Nov 03 2008 02:46 PM ="soupcan":1mxbmvn9]A sign of team mascot Mr. Met saying smoking is prohibited in the stadium has already been sold for $100, Meisel said.[/quote:1mxbmvn9] FUCKIN' HELL. That's all I wanted from the stadium. I just left a message with someone at MeiGray. soupcan Nov 07 2008 07:18 AM Found these at baseball-fever.com First game ever at Shea... Last game ever at Shea... Benjamin Grimm Nov 07 2008 07:37 AM It was prettier when it opened than when it closed. Edgy DC Nov 07 2008 08:39 AM The pitch could have been in better condition. G-Fafif Nov 07 2008 09:00 AM A ballpark that looked better with a parking lot in the background will now itself be a parking lot. The irony is as thick as the outfield grass was thin. Benjamin Grimm Nov 07 2008 09:12 AM Looking at the two photos together really shows how much garishness was added to Shea over the years. I'm sure Citi Field with start out with a lot of that clutter already in place. I can only imagine what it will look like 40 years from now. (And I hope I live to find out! At this point, another 40 years is about as much as I care to get.) John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 07 2008 09:33 AM ="Edgy DC":2749cxyp]The pitch could have been in better condition.[/quote:2749cxyp] Shea was barely complete when it opened. They worked till the very last minute. They said it was very soft and muddy in the outfield. metirish Nov 07 2008 09:40 AM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":1qbr6llo] ="Edgy DC":1qbr6llo]The pitch could have been in better condition.[/quote:1qbr6llo] Shea was barely complete when it opened. They worked till the very last minute. They said it was very soft and muddy in the outfield.[/quote:1qbr6llo] Was there even a fence at the back behind CF separating it form the parking lot , it's hard to tell. soupcan Nov 07 2008 09:43 AM And half of the parking lot isn't even paved yet. Willets Point Nov 07 2008 09:46 AM All the cars are the same size though. soupcan Nov 11 2008 08:03 AM First base Field level is gone, Third base nearly so. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 08:14 AM One advantage to implosions (yes, I realize that wasn't possible in this case) is that they're quick. This is like a band-aid being slowly and painfully peeled off. seawolf17 Nov 11 2008 11:29 AM ="themetfairy":2tehg78d]One advantage to implosions (yes, I realize that wasn't possible in this case) is that they're quick. This is like a band-aid being slowly and painfully peeled off.[/quote:2tehg78d] No kidding. I should stop opening this thread. G-Fafif Nov 11 2008 12:26 PM That sure was some tadium. Zvon Nov 11 2008 12:57 PM ="themetfairy":3vpl9tnq]One advantage to implosions (yes, I realize that wasn't possible in this case) is that they're quick. This is like a band-aid being slowly and painfully peeled off.[/quote:3vpl9tnq] I couldn't have said it better. I have to say I am a bit surprised how the destruction of Shea is effecting me. It has to be this slow torturous way I'm viewing it bit by bit. ="seawolf17":3vpl9tnq]No kidding. I should stop opening this thread.[/quote:3vpl9tnq] I'm with you seawolf17. Edgy DC Nov 11 2008 01:12 PM We let this happen. More than a few advocated it's happening. It's no time to turn away now. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 01:22 PM I'll own up to wanting the new stadium. I'm not denying that. But I've seen this transition done in several other cities during the past few years, and to a team they've all handled it better than the Mets have. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 01:34 PM I'm enjoying the pictures and saving everyone one of them. Keep 'em coming, I stopped licking my wound about ten days ago. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 01:35 PM tmf: they've all handled it better than the Mets have <<< How so? soupcan Nov 11 2008 01:39 PM I'll miss the old girl too but c'mon. Think of what it will be like having wide walkways! Benjamin Grimm Nov 11 2008 01:42 PM Wide walkways and legroom are nothing to sneeze at. I'd feel differently if I still lived in New York. But as rarely as I get to Shea Queens to see the Mets play anymore, I don't think Citi Field will ever feel like home to me. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 01:44 PM I remember the Phillies homage to the Vet in 2003 - a stadium that was younger than Shea and didn't have nearly the history Shea did. IIRC they were the first to take down a number before each game, but they made sure that every number was taken down by someone with a meaningful connection to the team or the stadium (not a Lincoln Mercury dealer in the lot). Their post-game ceremony after their final game was very moving (I'll find the link to it shortly), without the idiotic delay that Mets fans had to endure after Shea's final game. They had books ghost written by the Phillies Phanatic helping prepare younger fans for the move. From top to bottom it just seemed like a much better thought out operation. Edgy DC Nov 11 2008 01:49 PM That has little to do with photos of the de-construction. Is a delay before a ceremony such a big deal? themetfairy Nov 11 2008 01:52 PM The delay before the ceremony was just endemic of the half-assed job the Mets did in properly celebrating Shea's final season. They had an opportunity to do the old girl real justice, and they dropped the ball every chance they could. I couldn't find that footage of the final game ceremony at the Vet on the Phillies' site (and I feel very dirty trolling around there - ick!). But it had much more of a well-planned feel to it. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 01:56 PM How did we get from handling the transition in a day by day demolition thread which you said other teams did better to closing ceremonies and silly number countdowns? themetfairy Nov 11 2008 02:06 PM ="KC"]How did we get from handling the transition in a day by day demolition thread which you said other teams did better to closing ceremonies and silly number countdowns? I mentioned the transition in general. You asked for details. I think that if the Mets did a better job in paying homage to Shea this past season that people wouldn't be as upset about its destruction as they are. Agree or disagree with that premise - it's merely a theory. Edgy DC Nov 11 2008 02:08 PM I wouldn't feel dirty seeking for it if you liked it. If you like it, you like it. It's all MLB's website anyhow. I'm just not ready to kick the Mets because they don't demolish the stadium in a manner comparable to the White Sox or the Rangers. Or such having anything to do with why folks say they won't open this thread. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 02:12 PM You seem to be switching gears, going from "we let this happen/some advocated for it" to "I'm not ready to kick the Mets." You cool with this or not? Kong76 Nov 11 2008 02:15 PM tmf: I mentioned the transition in general. You asked for details <<< How did all the others "to a team" handle the dismantling of their old stadium better than the Mets? Edgy DC Nov 11 2008 02:21 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Nov 11 2008 02:27 PM You're excerpting phrases out of sentences there. It's clear to anybody that I didn't support a new stadium. How it's demolished is a moot point and I don't see how it can be done better, or indeed has been done better by everyone else. Frayed Knot Nov 11 2008 02:25 PM Maybe they can demolish the stadium by bringing each piece out on a velvet pillow laid out on a sled pulled by a puppy dog. I'm sure we'd all feel better then. This wound-licking is getting too much. I want video of the destruction and i hope it's bloody. Benjamin Grimm Nov 11 2008 02:29 PM I don't think the Mets did such a bad job with the last year of Shea. Yeah, there were too many Lincoln-Mercury dealers pulling down the numbers. But I think the closing ceremony was nicely done. Very nicely done. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 02:36 PM The physical demolition of Shea has to be done in this manner because implosion is not possible. My point is that I don't think that people would be reacting to the demolition process as painfully as they are if the Mets had done a better job of honoring Shea properly in its final season. Benjamin Grimm Nov 11 2008 02:38 PM Speaking only for myself, I just find it a little bit sad. No pain though. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 02:39 PM I know people who are in real pain over this. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 02:44 PM There's no way I could cull what fairy's point was from what she typed, I don't read posters minds, we were talking about the demolition pics. Problem with getting too wrapped up in the Mets will never be the same with- out good ol' Shea is before you know it's twenty years from now and you're writing letters to the paper like Bob L about how greener the grass was there and popcorn fresher. The bathroom floors were even drier and less sticky 20 years from now too I bet and those wonderful sight lines ... themetfairy Nov 11 2008 02:50 PM If that's the case, then I weep for the yet-to-be-finished Citi Field. Frayed Knot Nov 11 2008 02:54 PM I think we're starting to sound like the wound-lickers we used to make fun of; - oh no, this stadium is being destroyed worse than any other stadium in the history of destroyed stadiums - only the Mets could paint their foul lines crooked - why did Shea have to die so young? Kong76 Nov 11 2008 02:57 PM tmf: I know people who are in real pain over this <<< Send 'em here! Edgy DC Nov 11 2008 03:00 PM ="Frayed Knot":3qcqh3up]I think we're starting to sound like the wound-lickers we used to make fun of; - oh no, this stadium is being destroyed worse than any other stadium in the history of destroyed stadiums - only the Mets could paint their foul lines crooked - why did Shea have to die so young?[/quote:3qcqh3up] Wait a minute, that second one wuz you. Edgy DC Nov 11 2008 03:00 PM ="KC"]tmf: I know people who are in real pain over this <<< Send 'em here! I think they're minors. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 03:02 PM Actually, Iubital's post yesterday ("it doesn't surprise me") started me on this build up of let's stop the wound licking that was bound to come out. I think. I ain't going back to look. (OE: meaning the foul line not lining up) themetfairy Nov 11 2008 03:18 PM ="Edgy DC"] ="KC"]tmf: I know people who are in real pain over this <<< Send 'em here! I think they're minors. No - the minors I know aren't as connected to Shea as most of the adults I know. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 03:24 PM How do they feel about the demolition? Do the also feel that it's being handled "to a team" much worse by the Mets? Or are they just bitter about the closing ceremonies and number countdown too? Send 'em here. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 03:32 PM Who are you talking about? Kong76 Nov 11 2008 03:39 PM The people who are in real pain over this, McFly. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 03:45 PM I'll leave it to them to specifically reply to you or not. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 03:50 PM If they're here (and I suspected they were) then you should have left them out of your poor defense to begin with and let them speak for themselves. You wiggled off like four hooks in this thread. G-Fafif Nov 11 2008 04:06 PM There is beauty, pain and joy in baseball. When they gut and pry apart where you experienced most of it, a person is likely to reflect on all three and feel, upon viewing the kinds of pictures in question, one of those sensations in particular. The beauty and the joy may have been carried out safely before MeiGray could sell them, but it is not surprising that the pain should linger and overshadow for many if not all across the duration of the demolition. Later? Who knows? We haven't been there yet. I suspect the beauty and the pain and the joy will coalesce into the warmer memories the magic of distance allows. Reality says somebody's doing a job in taking down Shea Stadium. Reality says the plan has been on the table long enough for everybody to adjust to the plan. But baseball and reality were never intended to mesh so easily. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 04:17 PM Eloquent as ever, and on topic. Bravo! themetfairy Nov 11 2008 04:29 PM ="KC":cumx5g68]If they're here (and I suspected they were) then you should have left them out of your poor defense to begin with and let them speak for themselves. You wiggled off like four hooks in this thread.[/quote:cumx5g68] Don't ask direct questions if you're not going to like the answers. What was I supposed to do? Ignore you? G-Fafif Nov 11 2008 04:32 PM ="KC":3vuetxpl]Eloquent as ever, and on topic. Bravo![/quote:3vuetxpl] Thanks much, but just throwing the last pitch of what TMF stated quite reasonably, I think...Benitez to the Fairy's Leiter, as it were. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 04:33 PM Thanks G. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 04:35 PM I disagree, I think she said something and then changed it to something else and then played on then something else. I have to stop, I'm gonna start getting PM's about causing waves in the bath tub. Frayed Knot Nov 11 2008 04:38 PM ="Edgy DC"] ="Frayed Knot"]I think we're starting to sound like the wound-lickers we used to make fun of; - oh no, this stadium is being destroyed worse than any other stadium in the history of destroyed stadiums - only the Mets could paint their foul lines crooked - why did Shea have to die so young? Wait a minute, that second one wuz you. Yes, but I was just noting the fact that they looked off via the angle in that aerial shot. What followed was a reply which stated that only the Mets could do something like that as if the new stadium really will have foul poles 150' from home plate on account of this organization being so incompetant that the thought of seeing where the lines actually lead hasn't yet occured to anyone during this whole multi-million dollar operation. I'd bring up the one post wondering if they really had to ruin the grass with all that machinery during the deconstruction but I don't think that one was totally serious (although I waver at times). G-Fafif Nov 11 2008 04:39 PM I find it way more upsetting that I posted my way up from Richie Hebner only to morph into Jerry DiPoto. Who ranks these things? Oh right. Us. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 04:46 PM ="KC":6z6ktyl3]I disagree, I think she said something and then changed it to something else and then played on then something else. I have to stop, I'm gonna start getting PM's about causing waves in the bath tub.[/quote:6z6ktyl3] I did nothing of the kind. I answered a question that you asked me. You chose not to like the answer. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 05:05 PM I ain't outlining it for you, and don't be so fucking snippy. You're not always right. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 05:07 PM I'm just playing defense here. I'm not the one accusing people of changing things around. Nor have I done or said anything that merits you swearing at me. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 05:16 PM I'm sorry, but you're just freakin' maddening sometimes. Poorly handled transition does not equal demolition. Go wiggle yourself. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 05:24 PM I never said it equaled demolition. I was talking about people's reactions to the demolition. And nothing I said justifies the kind of reaction you're having. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 05:33 PM No, your first response was about the closing ceremonies and the count down .... have you been drinking with cooby? I'm comfortable with my reaction for purposes of this thread and I apologize for cursing and that's all I have to say on the matter. C'mon, "go wiggle yourself" was pretty funny. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 05:43 PM No, I have not been drinking. This is what you consider an apology? I made a comment about the transition being handled poorly. You asked me to extrapolate. I did, and you reacted in a pretty hostile manner. If you don't like my opinion that's your prerogative. But you needn't go off like that just because you disagree with it. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 05:50 PM I apologized for cursing, that's it. Your reading comprehension skills are taking a beating in this thread. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 05:54 PM No. I'm simply taking a beating for not seeing an issue exactly the way that you do. Kong76 Nov 12 2008 04:20 AM A beating? If I was gonna get nasty I'd dig up a picture of you in a Phillies uniform and really stick it to you. I'm ultimately taking the beating when we argue because the bath house mentality of this board will almost always side with you. Mean ol' KC. *sigh* HahnSolo Nov 12 2008 06:42 AM Hi, I'm here for the "intelligent, lively and provocative discussion of the Mets, Ed Kranepool, and on a good day, the Ramones." Am I in the right place? Kong76 Nov 12 2008 06:58 AM seawolf17 Nov 12 2008 07:17 AM ="HahnSolo":3u9spspm]Hi, I'm here for the "intelligent, lively and provocative discussion of the Mets, Ed Kranepool, and on a good day, the Ramones." Am I in the right place?[/quote:3u9spspm] Eff that. I come here for the weekly KC/Scarlet fights. Edgy DC Nov 12 2008 07:35 AM I missed a GREAT NIGHT. Zvon Nov 12 2008 08:48 PM whats all this then....? Pages of posts but nary an image. Addressing the issue of pain... Some of us do feel pain in regard to Shea's demise. It's not even that bad. Its a pang....a feeling of remorse. It hurts on a level that's hard to express, and its a passing phase. Eventually this will be a thing of the past. Not yet though, seeing it being ripped down bit by bit, here and at other places as well. I have been going around and collecting pictures of Shea myself. Anything I come across. Early days,recent times,....even the demolition. So I bop in here and I see there have been additions to the Shea Photo thread, and I'm like, "Oh kool! Maybe its one I haven't seen. Hope its the older Shea...but any nice pic of Shea would be sweet to see..." I hope to see pictures of Shea in way of a recollection, an homage. That's just me though. Maybe there should be a seperate thread for Shea's demolition, ...I dunno. But it's really not a big deal. As you can see I'll still check out this thread, hoping for kool pics of Shea Stadium when it was in use. I've come across some really great Shea photos online recently, especially at Baseball Fever. Like this one. I am 95% positive that thats me running onto the field after game 5 of the '73 NLCS. Edgy DC Nov 12 2008 09:05 PM Classy look. Apparently, nobody was allowed in that day --- by law --- except 21-year-old white males with shoulder-length hair, workshirts, and bellbottoms. Zvon Nov 12 2008 09:15 PM ="Edgy DC":3fjgok91]Classy look. Apparently, nobody was allowed in that day --- by law --- except 21-year-old white males with shoulder-length hair, workshirts, and bellbottoms.[/quote:3fjgok91] Not so. I was 15. Kong76 Nov 13 2008 04:34 AM EDC: Classy look. Apparently, nobody was allowed in that day --- by law --- except 21-year-old white males with shoulder-length hair, workshirts, and bellbottoms ------------- I never noticed, but you're right. It looks like they just opened a gate for field level gen adm for a Deep Purple concert or something and all the guys are scrambling to get a good spot. Cool picture to be in. G-Fafif Nov 13 2008 05:42 AM It's fascinating, from a cultural perspective, to contrast the crowds storming the field images from '69 and '73. The tumult of the '60s may have waned away from the ballpark, but its remnants seem to have become codified in places that were largely shielded from change while change was at its most intense: like the ballpark. (Which is probably what pissed Dick Young off so.) It's often been said there was more of an edge to the '73 rushing of the field than '69's, for what that's worth. I don't remember the Orioles complaining they were frightened for their well-being the way the Reds did. That YouTube clip that MLB pulled earlier this year, the pregame show from Game Four of the '73 World Series, showed (to me anyway) what a different world we were living in versus four years earlier, not just in style but substance. If you recall, Kubek, Seaver and Hunter were all taking Charlie Finley to task for his handling of the Mike Andrews situation. Questioning authority, kind of a radical concept in establishment circles in 1969, was part of the polyester fabric of the game by 1973. Probably not a coincidence this was the same year as the Senate's Watergate hearings nor that within two weeks there would be such a backlash to the Saturday Night Massacre. soupcan Nov 14 2008 09:54 AM Latest shots from wcbs880 chopper... Field level is completely gone now. Here's some interesting stuff that I got from baseball fever. Shea Demolition Plans: Edgy DC Nov 14 2008 09:58 AM What's a "NON-BEARTING STRUCTURE"? Benjamin Grimm Nov 14 2008 10:00 AM Before anyone else beats me to it, let me just get this out of the way: It figures! The stupid Mets can't even get the spelling right! Willets Point Nov 14 2008 10:04 AM Question for Zvon. Is your shirt open showing your Siegfried & Roy hairless chest or were you wearing a fleshtone t-shirt? Zvon Nov 14 2008 01:26 PM ="Willets Point"]Question for Zvon. Is your shirt open showing your Siegfried & Roy hairless chest or were you wearing a fleshtone t-shirt? lol. I never went around displaying my slinky chest so I'm sure that's a T-shirt. Doubt it was fleshtone, probly orange. Thing is I'm not positive that's me. First time I saw the pic I looked right past that guy searching for me. Eventually I got back to him and thought that must be me. I have no recollection of what I wore that day. I do know I was a skinny guy with long hair who always wore white sneaks. If I had on a flannel shirt, which I wore often enough, it be rolled up at the sleeves. And the path I took puts me right about where that guy is. After that I ran to the edge of the home plate grass, stopped... saw that girl on the mound (looks like she's going for the rubber <[joke setup<]).. our eyes met...I ran to her on the mound and we did a Koosman/Grote type jump and hug. Twirled in a circle, split and ran in different directions. I never saw her again but I'll never forget that moment. Benjamin Grimm Nov 14 2008 01:27 PM I had no idea that Marlo Thomas was there that day! metirish Nov 14 2008 01:34 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Nov 14 2008 01:34 PM WOW , what a great picture , guy in the yellow shirt at second stands out and I count three suits that might be security , one to the right of yellow shirt and one to the left of Buddy and one n front of him. Edgy DC Nov 14 2008 01:34 PM That's a great story. How about Barry Gibb chicken dancing to your right? Zvon Nov 14 2008 01:37 PM ="Edgy DC":38ctzctd]That's a great story. How about Barry Gibb chicken dancing to your right?[/quote:38ctzctd] No hug for him. Zvon Nov 14 2008 02:31 PM The thing about storming (and that's a very apt description) of the field in '73, and why it did get out of control, was that every kid wanted to be part of that moment, to be part of the celebration like in '69. And as the game went on we all had the same idea : to get down to field level so it was possible. We did the same thing during game four. I ended up on the 1st base side then. Rose hit that extra inning homer and the celebration was over. I was right on the rail behind the added box on the 3rd base side late in game 5. The Reds families were sitting in them. Eventually the game was stopped and they were led out to the Reds bullpen for their safety. And it's not that we were bothering them personally in any way, shape or form (fans did taunt them when they were being led away though, lol). Its just that there was a sea of people behind them that became like one big giant swaying creature. We could not move independently, could hardly even breath. And you know what I did then? I jumped the rail into the make shift box. Like the Reds families I was a bit concerned for my safety. Unfortunately everyone along the rail ended up jumping into the box like lemmings. Again we became crammed. I saw the fans on the 1st base side did the same thing, but they were so packed in that the little wooden wall that enclosed the section collapsed, and they spilled out onto the field. The game had to be halted again. Tug was on the mound at this point. He was pissed off. I remember him approaching the pile of people waving his arms over and over in an upward motion as if to say EVERYONE! BACK UP AND INTO THE STANDS! It was pretty crazy. I got so sandwiched in the corner of the box that I felt that we were gonna burst out on this side too. I jumped out and went down into the Reds dugout. I was able to hide in plain sight there for quite a few minutes, sitting on a stool in the far corner of the dugout. Eventually a cop came up to me and asked what I was doing there. I told him...I was trying to stay alive, lol. He told me I had to stay alive back up in the stands. This was when I was shown on TV, when the cop was talking to me. (my parents and brothers got to see that from home. My bros thought it was the koolest thing, my folks were like wtf were you doing?). I've told this story before here (I have also mentioned looking for the footage of me on TV and it is nowhere to be found.) but I don't think I ever stressed the point that what happened occurred because too many kids had this dream of being in a '69 like celebration highlight reel. And what actually happened was we so embarrassed the team, the game, the city, that that footage will forever be locked away and forgotten. One of my best Shea memories though. A Boy Named Seo Nov 14 2008 02:40 PM I re-read that part about you being in the Reds dugout a couple times thinking I misread or misunderstood you. That's the craziest thing I've ever heard. Wild story, man. Thanks for sharing. dgwphotography Nov 15 2008 12:28 PM I think I'm one of the one's in real pain over this that TMF is referring to. The thing is not once has the countdown, the ceremonies, or anything that the Mets did or didn't do play a role in it. It is simply the fact that a place that has been a desired destination for me for over 35 years is no longer there. Shea is a place that I dreamed about visiting since my aunt gave me my first yearbook in 1972. It's the knowledge that I will never feel the attachment to the new place that I do to the old place. It's the fact that it was a home away from home of sorts - a place where I knew ever nook and cranny, where I knew where to get the best knishes, or the best dogs. A place that is home to so many memories. Whatever the Mets did or didn't do to mark this occasion plays no role in how I feel about it. Benjamin Grimm Nov 15 2008 01:43 PM I agree with that, except for the part about feeling real pain. I feel a touch of sadness, and a sense of loss, but I wouldn't call it pain. Kong76 Nov 15 2008 04:31 PM I'd like to get a copy of that CAD file with the non bearting typo. Hell, they show part of the guy's name and addy and it was easily discovered who and where he is. Maybe he's got a sense of humor and would leak one to us. Edgy DC Nov 15 2008 07:56 PM Scarsdale. Vic can take a short drive and knock on his door. cooby Nov 16 2008 08:19 PM Zvon, great picture, great stories! cooby Nov 16 2008 08:20 PM And what does "Non Bearting" mean? soupcan Nov 18 2008 11:01 AM All of these from baseball-fever.com Edgy DC Nov 18 2008 11:11 AM What? The auction house couldn't generate any action on the spongetech.com sign? Farmer Ted Nov 18 2008 11:17 AM Soup's top photo shows the location of our old seats. Crushing. Willets Point Nov 18 2008 11:25 AM ="Edgy DC":133d3wiq]What? The auction house couldn't generate any action on the spongetech.com sign?[/quote:133d3wiq] Maybe Bubba Sponge? Farmer Ted Nov 18 2008 11:31 AM Missed the Spongetech sign. Very sponge worthy. soupcan Nov 20 2008 10:01 AM More pictures available at nycsubway.org 9/1963 5/10/1964 8/1/1979 8/1/1979 Tiles removed between 1979 and 1980. 8/16/1980 9/24/2008 holychicken Nov 24 2008 09:01 AM Might be a bit late for this coming in after all of the destruction pics . . . but this is one of my favorite pictures of shea. It is my gf's younger sister. John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 24 2008 09:47 AM ="holychicken"]Might be a bit late for this coming in after all of the destruction pics . . . but this is one of my favorite pictures of shea. It is my gf's younger sister. Is she like, legal? holychicken Nov 24 2008 09:56 AM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":22rs38rb]Is she like, legal?[/quote:22rs38rb] Oh, I see. You see a dark-skinned person and immediately think "illegal immigrant." You should be ashamed! ehehhe SteveJRogers Nov 24 2008 11:37 AM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket"] ="holychicken"]Might be a bit late for this coming in after all of the destruction pics . . . but this is one of my favorite pictures of shea. It is my gf's younger sister. Is she like, legal? Uh, 'Bucket, aren't you very much attached at the moment? Now Chicken, I ask you the same question! Benjamin Grimm Nov 24 2008 11:39 AM I find it a little odd to be lusting after someone when all you know is the shape of her nose. Edgy DC Nov 24 2008 11:44 AM And which pores are and aren't corrupted. holychicken Nov 24 2008 12:06 PM Exactly. I didn't even post a picture of her most desirable body part, her posterior. Dear god, tell me my gf doesn't read this forum or she will surely whup me. seawolf17 Nov 24 2008 12:08 PM ="holychicken":21z05y4i]Exactly. I didn't even post a picture of her most desirable body part, her posterior. Dear god, tell me my gf doesn't read this forum or she will surely whup me.[/quote:21z05y4i] It's okay, you can still post it. We don't mind. Edgy DC Nov 24 2008 12:25 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Nov 24 2008 12:42 PM Butts, schmutz. Steve's a snot man. seawolf17 Nov 24 2008 12:38 PM ="Edgy DC":1hrzmxox]Butts, schmutz. Steve's a snot man.[/quote:1hrzmxox] Must be a Yankee fan thing. SteveJRogers Nov 24 2008 01:14 PM ="holychicken":26x42lii]Exactly. I didn't even post a picture of her most desirable body part, her posterior. Dear god, tell me my gf doesn't read this forum or she will surely whup me.[/quote:26x42lii] Geez, I was just following Bucket's lead. I mean I need some Met Chick love more than he does! soupcan Dec 04 2008 08:12 AM All from baseball-fever John Cougar Lunchbucket Dec 04 2008 08:18 AM Mike Mulligan always said his Steam Shovel could take down one stadium as fast as 100 men could in a day, although he was never quite sure of that. Benjamin Grimm Dec 04 2008 08:26 AM So now they're chewing away at the Loge level? Are they going to get to a point where there's just an unattached Upper Level (or Upper Tank as Keith Hernandez would call it) floating high in the air? soupcan Dec 04 2008 08:28 AM Yeah that's weird isn't it? You'd think they'd go top to bottom rather than the other way around. I'd like to think that they are professional demolishers and know what they are doing rather than they might just be stupid. Edgy DC Dec 04 2008 09:21 AM I don't know. These two guys aren't winning any smart awards with me right now. << dgwphotography Dec 04 2008 10:58 AM ="soupcan"] Zvon - is it me, or does this look tone-mapped? It looks like it has that HDR glow to it... HahnSolo Dec 04 2008 11:21 AM ="Edgy DC":2sv0q5gv] I don't know. These two guys aren't winning any smart awards with me right now. << [/quote:2sv0q5gv] Those two guys are still waiting for their hot pretzel ordered at the last home game. G-Fafif Dec 04 2008 12:30 PM Talk about your stiff Breezes playing havoc with Shea's outfield. Valadius Dec 04 2008 02:00 PM Part of me is rooting to see the picture of them ripping down that Fox News sign. Edgy DC Dec 04 2008 02:14 PM You strike me as somewhat partisan. Am I right? soupcan Dec 04 2008 02:17 PM Who Vlad? Nah - he's as fair and balanced as they come. Kong76 Dec 04 2008 03:45 PM I sent those latest photos to a friend of mine. He wrote back that he thought they were building a new stadium and not just fixing up Shea and slappin' on a new coat of paint like in years gone by. Chucklehead. Zvon Dec 04 2008 04:57 PM ="Iubitul"] ="soupcan"] Zvon - is it me, or does this look tone-mapped? It looks like it has that HDR glow to it... Yes. Especially in comparison with the others. It does bring the shaded areas out. Zvon Dec 04 2008 05:02 PM I wish they would get this over with. How are they gonna take down the highest heights sans demolition? themetfairy Dec 04 2008 05:12 PM It may take a while. I remember Old Comiskey Park was in a state of partial demolition when we visited New Comiskey in August of 1991. Kong76 Dec 04 2008 05:22 PM Z: How are they gonna take down the highest heights sans demolition? <=== Cranes and stuff, and how is what they've been doing not demolition? Kong76 Dec 04 2008 05:52 PM tmf: It may take a while. <=== They don't really have much time if they plan to level the joint and make it a parking lot. My guess is they'll finish well before opening day. I don't want to get into union contracts twice tonight, but they make it worth it to finish on time so there's no lolligaggin' nowadays. Zvon Dec 05 2008 03:10 PM ="KC":21ab889l]Cranes and stuff, and how is what they've been doing not demolition?[/quote:21ab889l] Sorry. I meant the usage of explosive charges. Kong76 Dec 05 2008 03:42 PM I figured, I was just goofin'. soupcan Dec 09 2008 08:13 AM Upper deck wrecking ball. BAM! Benjamin Grimm Dec 09 2008 08:32 AM They should have painted the wrecking ball to look like a baseball. metirish Dec 09 2008 08:33 AM That would have been really taking the piss on those that see that as a sad event. Benjamin Grimm Dec 09 2008 08:37 AM It would be a nod to tradition. It's what they did with the Ebbets Field wrecking ball. The same ball was used a few years later on the Polo Grounds: Benjamin Grimm Dec 09 2008 08:50 AM Cincinnati's Crosley Field too! soupcan Dec 13 2008 02:19 PM Wow - now I'm even starting to have a hard time looking... baseball-fever.com Benjamin Grimm Dec 13 2008 02:36 PM Yikes. Edgy DC Dec 13 2008 02:55 PM GYAH! Kong76 Dec 13 2008 07:10 PM They didn't sell the panels depicting the leap and Seaver's head? Edgy DC Dec 13 2008 07:23 PM It looks like the terrorist hit we were praying wouldn't happen actually did. Kong76 Dec 13 2008 07:44 PM Fuck terrorists, an accidental plane crash on a foggy evening in the wrong flight path was what I thought mighta happened one day. *62 Dec 14 2008 12:56 PM The pictures may be gruesome but the Stadium has overstayed its welcome. I may miss living in Brooklyn desperately, but 3,000 sq. ft. is way better than 920. Edgy DC Dec 14 2008 05:11 PM I don't get the reference. *62 Dec 14 2008 05:39 PM I love Shea for lots of reasons, and will miss it some ..... but it's a dump. Better? Edgy DC Dec 14 2008 05:53 PM I thought those numbers referred to something. Rockin' Doc Dec 14 2008 06:57 PM I think *62 lives in Florida if my memory is correct. He apparently once lived in Brooklyn and apparently hung out at Shea quite a bit in the past. I think he was stating that he missed living in Brooklyn, but preferred the 3000 sq. ft. of living space he can now afford over the 920 sq. ft. of living space he had in Brooklyn. Living in the south and comparing costs for homes with my friends and relatives relatives that live near the city, I understand what he is referring too. Then again, maybe I miss interpreted the meaning of his post. Either way, it's nice to have *62 posting here again. I hope he hangs around. soupcan Dec 16 2008 01:42 PM StadiumPage.com Benjamin Grimm Dec 16 2008 02:04 PM It's amazing that just ten weeks ago it was still full of color and people and noise. soupcan Dec 18 2008 07:45 PM soupcan Dec 29 2008 07:51 AM soupcan Jan 05 2009 12:40 PM G-Fafif Jan 05 2009 12:52 PM Impressive Photoshopping, Soup. Quite interesting to see what Shea Stadium would look like if somebody went mad and started to tear it down. If it wouldn't be too much trouble, please put Shea back together again. Thank you. batmagadanleadoff Jan 05 2009 01:18 PM ="soupcan"]http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q308/soupcan11/shea5-1.jpg That neon batter just reminded me of Gary Carter' follow through, particularly the way Gary would take an inside pitch and line drive one-bounce it to the outfielder for a single. Are there any other Mets that the neon hitter resembles? Edgy DC Jan 05 2009 02:35 PM Looks kind of slender for Carter. It also looks like a guy going to right, while Carter more typically pulled. metirish Jan 13 2009 01:35 PM from 01/10/2009 metsguyinmichigan Jan 13 2009 02:35 PM They're not saving any of the neon players? I know they're huge. but heck, they could slice them up and sell them for $10 a foot to geeks like me! Zvon Jan 13 2009 02:58 PM ="metsguyinmichigan":8phckkps]They're not saving any of the neon players? I know they're huge. but heck, they could slice them up and sell them for $10 a foot to geeks like me![/quote:8phckkps] Why sell just their feet? John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 13 2009 04:19 PM wham G-Fafif Jan 13 2009 04:53 PM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":1virpusd]wham[/quote:1virpusd] "Wake Me Up Before You Go Go" vs. "Baby I'm Your Man" Whoops...wrong thread. metirish Jan 15 2009 08:00 AM Newsday today has a classic Shea pictures collection. Die-hard fans dance in the aisles at 1:50 a.m. during the 21st inning of a 25-inning marathon game between the Mets and the Cardinals at Shea Stadium. (AP Photo / September 12, 1974) A view of Shea Stadium during the national anthem before a New York Mets-Los Angeles Dodgers game in 1973. (AP Photo / June 9, 1973) Fans rush onto the field and players celebrate after the Mets defeated the Baltimore Orioles to win the 1969 World Series. (AP Photo / October 16, 1969 A view of Shea Stadium after after souvenir-hunting fans ripped up the sod following the Mets' victory in the 1969 World Series. (AP Photo / October 16, 1969) Pirates first baseman Willie Stargell waves to the crowd at Shea Stadium during Willie Stargell Night at Shea. The man at left wiping his eye is Nelson Doubleday, Mets chairman of the board. (Newsday / Paul J. Bereswill / September 27, 1982 The new owners of the Mets pose at Shea Stadium. From left: Stephen E. O'Neil, president of City Investing Company; Nelson Doubleday, president of Doubleday Co.; Fred Wilpon, Chairman of the Board of Sterling Equities and John O. Pickett, owner of the NHL New York Islanders, who was instrumental in setting up the sale of the team. Pickett was not listed as an owner of the club. (AP File Photo / January 25, 1980) Car fire involving several cars in the Shea Stadium parking lot during a game in 2002. (AP Photo / April 27, 2002) Workers Angelo DiMaria, left, and Dominico Bannezo clean off old paint and rust as they get Shea Stadium ready for Opening Day in 2001. (Newsdya / J. Conrad Williams Jr / March 28, 2001) > soupcan Jan 15 2009 08:09 AM Amazing how much Jeff looks like his dad used to. Even down to the bad hairdo. ="metirish"] Edgy DC Jan 15 2009 08:10 AM Car Fire Day: Best. Promotion. Ever. HahnSolo Jan 15 2009 08:36 AM I miss crazy old Uncle Nelson. soupcan Jan 15 2009 08:39 AM Pop Quiz - without looking it up, how much did Nelson & Jeff pay for the Mets in 1980. If I remember right, I think it was $20 million. Farmer Ted Jan 15 2009 08:45 AM I only recall $350 million or so to finally kick Doubleday to the curb in '02. Edgy DC Jan 15 2009 09:02 AM Who pitched on Car Fire Day? metirish Jan 15 2009 09:07 AM ="Edgy DC":kdd41i0v]Who pitched on Car Fire Day?[/quote:kdd41i0v] I remember that game , I should say I remember it from watching it on TV and the announcers talking about the fire in the parking lot and showing it. I'll guess that Steve Trachsel pitched . John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 15 2009 09:14 AM ="soupcan":sgwypaic]Pop Quiz - without looking it up, how much did Nelson & Jeff pay for the Mets in 1980. If I remember right, I think it was $20 million.[/quote:sgwypaic] For some reason $21 million is the number I remember but geez. Edgy DC Jan 15 2009 09:14 AM Pedro Pistacio took a no-hiiter into the seventh the day after a crisp one-hitter by Testes. It was game two of a three-game sweep over Milwaukee and, for a minute there, it looked like the 2002 Mets had scrapped together a winning rotation of Leiter-Estes-Astacio-D'Amico-Trachsel. That plan blew up in the parking lot like so many SUVs. Edgy DC Jan 15 2009 09:15 AM Is that logo stitched together? It acually looks like a giant shoulder patch. soupcan Jan 15 2009 09:16 AM D'Amico. I had high hopes for him. soupcan Jan 15 2009 09:17 AM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":esm8z809]For some reason $21 million is the number I remember but geez.[/quote:esm8z809] I think you're right. dgwphotography Jan 15 2009 11:19 AM ="batmagadanleadoff"] ="soupcan"] That neon batter just reminded me of Gary Carter' follow through, particularly the way Gary would take an inside pitch and line drive one-bounce it to the outfielder for a single. Are there any other Mets that the neon hitter resembles? flip it around, and it's Mex. attgig Jan 15 2009 12:16 PM ="metirish"] Fans rush onto the field and players celebrate after the Mets defeated the Baltimore Orioles to win the 1969 World Series. (AP Photo / October 16, 1969 > i wonder if that will ever be allowed in pro sports. when did that stop? it's only on college that you see fans rushing the field. why is that? Edgy DC Jan 15 2009 12:19 PM Because student athletes don't need/demand protection from the masses the way millionnaire atheletes do. Why is the cop screening home plate doing the time warp? metirish Jan 15 2009 12:23 PM How about the guy down the RF line jumping from the stands? Benjamin Grimm Jan 15 2009 12:23 PM I think it stopped in 1986, at least in New York. The fans rushed the field after the division clincher, but the mounted cops prevented it in the World Series. I think, though, that the Phillies had the cops on horseback for the 1980 World Series. John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 17 2009 12:20 PM I went out there this morning, photos on facebook. Here's a vid shot as the 7 train arrives in Willets Pt. metirish Jan 17 2009 01:59 PM Great pictures btw. soupcan Jan 18 2009 01:53 PM These are from baseballfever... Kong76 Jan 18 2009 02:08 PM Even dollar cost averaging down to ~ 7 1/2, that sums up my Citigroup stock feelings. I've been somewhat unaffected by most of the images, but this one is particularly eerie to me: Kong76 Jan 18 2009 02:10 PM I know the home opener is late this year, but are they really gonna have the ol' girl completely gone by then and a parking lot installed? I thought they'd be more far along. Benjamin Grimm Jan 18 2009 03:30 PM I'm not sure they have to. The existing parking lot served Shea for the last few years, and Shea held more fans than Citi will. Kong76 Jan 18 2009 03:37 PM I don't mean they have to, I just thought that was the plan. Since groundbreaking, parking there has been a pain in the neck and I took the train mostly to games. I like to tailgate, plan on doing it a lot this year, and it's easier to do with a car. John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 18 2009 04:26 PM ="Kong76":3gm6qt5k]I know the home opener is late this year, but are they really gonna have the ol' girl completely gone by then and a parking lot installed? I thought they'd be more far along.[/quote:3gm6qt5k] Official plan is the last bits of Shea are to be disappeared by June 30. Those photos put mine to shame! metirish Jan 23 2009 02:23 PM Vince Coleman Firecracker Jan 23 2009 02:43 PM An auto body shop in a Quonset hut. Fantastic. Willets Point Jan 23 2009 02:44 PM I've got dibs on "City * Field * Collision" as my band's name. Frayed Knot Jan 24 2009 11:28 AM The ends of the horseshoe are starting to disappear http://www.wfan.com/pages/3706726.php?imageGalleryXRefId=907755#imgXR http://www.wfan.com/pages/3706726.php?imageGalleryXRefId=907756#imgXR G-Fafif Jan 24 2009 11:53 AM It's a stump, but it's our stump. dgwphotography Jan 24 2009 01:07 PM soupcan Jan 26 2009 12:33 PM More at stadiumpage.com Frayed Knot Jan 26 2009 12:56 PM btw, Harvey Araton tees off the Yanx in a piece in Sunday's NYTimes. Specifically it's the sweet time they're taking in getting rid of the old park even though the new one is nearly finished and that the whole deal was based on trading stadium space for park land, park land that now seems destined for 2011 at the earliest. Their answer as to when they'll get around to even starting deconstruction is essentially "when we fuckin' get around to it - now go away and stop bothering us", even as they had no problem making a public spectacle about marching their offices across to the new digs the street last week. "Mayor Bloomberg, tear down this stadium" metirish Jan 26 2009 01:16 PM The arrogance of all involved is sickening , how I despise all things Yankees. SteveJRogers Jan 26 2009 02:14 PM Supposedly they are going to use YSII for a movie production, plus the plan was that either the Mets or Yankees would use YSII to play games if either Citi Field or YSIII weren't ready come April. So despite the arrogance, there really are valid reasons why it is still up. Frayed Knot Jan 26 2009 02:36 PM Even if using YSII was the on-paper 'just-in-case' backup plan in the event that some wild mishap went on with the construction of either of the new stadiums the virtually ZERO chance such a plan would ever be put into place has now shrunk to roughly that of the Lions being put into next week's Super Bowl were a case of bubonic plague to sweep through either the Steeler or Cardinal camp. And, as the article mentions, they've yet to even select a company that would do the deconstruction or set a date as to when it might start. So the reason it's not only still up but will be so for at least another year has everything to do with the fact that they haven't finished milking the old girl for every cent she's worth and if that means that the city that just re-re-issued more tax-free bonds as the price climbed over a billion dollars and the local kids in the neighborhood they claim to care so much for (whenever they weren't threatening to leave that is) go without a public park for the next few years well then that's none of their damn business. metirish Jan 28 2009 08:10 PM New York Times ] In Dead of Winter, Shea Stadium Is Melting Away By KEN BELSON Published: January 28, 2009 With each passing day, Shea Stadium, the home of the Mets since 1964, fades further from Citi Field, the team�s new home. In the last few weeks, demolition crews have been ripping down entire sections of Shea from both ends of the outfield decks toward its middle. What was once a semi-enclosed bowl with 57,000 seats is now a skeleton of a grandstand. In the first weeks after the Mets finished their final season at Shea (with another desultory loss that knocked them out of playoff contention), crews removed the seats, signs and anything else that could be sold to collectors or reused in city parks. Then demolition crews started knocking out the field level and the concrete decks that made up the loge and the mezzanine. But the structure of the stadium, built for nearly $30 million, was largely intact. Not so anymore. Since the beginning of the year, crews have clawed away at Shea�s walls and beams, exposing escalators, elevator banks and air ducts. The stands above Gates A and E have vanished and parts of the neon players that adorned the outside of the stadium are gone, too. Twelve sections of the upper deck still have their concrete floors, but the other sections that remain are outlined only by their steel beams. Unlike stadiums in other cities that have been imploded, Shea had to be taken down piece by piece because of building codes. The rat-a-tat-tat of the construction machinery drowned out the noise of the jets taking off from LaGuardia Airport. Tarps on chain link fences say �Almost Home,� a reference to the soon-to-be-opened Citi Field, but also the six-month process of erasing Shea. In all, nearly 10,000 tons of steel and another 2,500 tons of concrete will be pulled out of Shea. Some of the concrete will be ground up and reused as the base material for the parking lot that will be installed in its place. The lot will include space for 2,000 cars and signs marking where home plate and the pitcher�s mound once were. Team representatives said that the demolition will be completed some time in the coming weeks, which is not hard to imagine. On Wednesday, lines of dump trucks made their way onto what was once the outfield, weaving around piles of crumpled metal and concrete covered in snow. Several Web sites have sprung up that have chronicled the destruction of the place where Seaver once threw, Piazza once squatted and the Stork, George Theodore, once roamed. In a way, the sites are a testament to the morbid curiosity of Mets fans, who have endured many morbid Mets teams. �It�s interesting how they are doing it piece by piece,� said Eric Okurowski, a 31-year master�s candidate and a life-long Met fan from Babylon, N.Y., who runs stadiumpage.com. �Most old stadia are blown up and it takes just a few seconds. It�s pretty interesting seeing it come apart in pieces over the course of four months.� Okurowski and several other die-hard fans are organizing a final farewell at Shea at noon Saturday to share stories and take photographs of what is left of the ballpark. As Shea diminishes, Citi Field emerges. While less imposing than Shea, the new stadium, at least from the outside, has an elegance that Shea lacked. Instead of the lattice of concrete ramps that constituted Shea�s exterior, Citi Field is covered in brick and punctuated with arches and an entrance rotunda. Flood lights highlight the outside while klieg lights illuminate what is left of Shea. More Articles in Sports �A version of this article appeared in print on January 29, 2009, on page B18 of the New York edition. apmorris Jan 29 2009 04:58 PM ="metirish"]New York Times ] Okurowski and several other die-hard fans are organizing a final farewell at Shea at noon Saturday to share stories and take photographs of what is left of the ballpark. Anyone going? (bring a camera) metirish Jan 29 2009 05:28 PM People are going http://www.faithandfearinflushing.com/ G-Fafif Jan 30 2009 03:38 PM Damn, dirty apes... apmorris Jan 30 2009 04:43 PM ="G-Fafif"]Damn, dirty apes... Awesomenessness Kong76 Jan 30 2009 07:24 PM Classic pic. dgwphotography Jan 31 2009 05:41 AM that's just brilliant. Benjamin Grimm Jan 31 2009 05:44 AM That really is brilliant. metirish Jan 31 2009 05:47 AM Yeah it's very clever. themetfairy Jan 31 2009 06:19 AM It's just a model.... batmagadanleadoff Jan 31 2009 04:06 PM I'm guessing that the picture has something to do with the Statue Liberty finale in Planet of.... But that picture never came up on my browser. Not today. Not yesterday. Benjamin Grimm Jan 31 2009 04:14 PM Me neither. I had to right click, select "Copy Location" and paste the following in my browser: http://faithandfear.blogharbor.com/_photos/heston.jpg Edgy DC Feb 02 2009 07:05 AM You MANIACS! soupcan Feb 05 2009 07:11 AM From stadiumpage.com Just a matter of time now.... Benjamin Grimm Feb 05 2009 08:06 AM It's starting to look more like the grandstand you'd see at a race track. Frayed Knot Feb 05 2009 08:11 AM Never can say goodbye No no no no, I Never can say goodbye Even though the pain and heartache Seems to follow me wherever I go Though I try and try to hide my feelings They always seem to show Then you try to say you're leaving me And I always have to say no... Tell me why Is it so That I ... Never can say goodbye No no no no, I Never can say goodbye Evertime I think I had enough I start heading for the door There's a very strange vibration That pierces me right to the core It says turn around you fool You know you love her more and more Tell me why Is it so Don't wanna let yo go I never can say goodbye soupcan Feb 06 2009 10:55 AM These are from wcbs880.com. And there are a few more there as well. G-Fafif Feb 08 2009 03:10 PM Shea among the ruins... Kong76 Feb 08 2009 03:47 PM I called KB over and asked if she wanted to see an eerie picture on my laptop and she saw this and started bawling. "That's all that's left? When was that picture taken?" "Uh, I guess last time it snowed." ... (I'm obnoxious in real life too) and I told her this is like a 25 page thread of the destruction of Shea and we started talking about our Moms and games and tailgates and she got me all throaty too and crying and screw you all but ok I admit that it's hard to see the old thing disappear and I've been suppressing the sadness. There, I said it. dgwphotography Feb 09 2009 07:41 AM the first time we go there this year will be a shock. Edgy DC Feb 09 2009 07:50 AM We should go and have a tribute concert in the parking lot. G-Fafif Feb 09 2009 10:37 AM ="Kong76":1akaid2f]I called KB over and asked if she wanted to see an eerie picture on my laptop and she saw this and started bawling.[/quote:1akaid2f] My wife, who worked downtown throughout the fall of 2001, invoked Ground Zero in terms of what it reminded her of looking at. soupcan Feb 13 2009 10:09 AM Another from baseballfever.com metirish Feb 13 2009 10:27 AM Great pictures over there...taken this morning from the #7 train Benjamin Grimm Feb 13 2009 10:48 AM They should leave that last chunk in place. smg58 Feb 13 2009 12:34 PM I drove past it the other day. It's really sad to see it. soupcan Feb 14 2009 07:21 AM I'm at LaGuardia waiting for a flight. Drove past Citi and Shea. Shea looks so sad and insignificant. I'm excited and wistful at the same time. cooby Feb 14 2009 08:22 AM Please, check for ice and geese. Not joking. soupcan Feb 14 2009 08:38 AM We're flying Continental - what could go wrong? dgwphotography Feb 14 2009 09:44 AM ="metirish"] It's fitting that that's the last piece left... Frayed Knot Feb 14 2009 09:49 AM Think of it as an image of Koosman throwing the final pitch of the '69 WS. It could be Orosco/'86 too but it looks more like Koosman. dgwphotography Feb 14 2009 09:51 AM hmmmm.... I always saw Matlack in that image... dgwphotography Feb 14 2009 09:57 AM ="Iubitul"]hmmmm.... I always saw Matlack in that image... Actually, no. Bob Ojeda. SteveJRogers Feb 14 2009 11:49 AM ="Iubitul"] ="Iubitul"]hmmmm.... I always saw Matlack in that image... Actually, no. Bob Ojeda. What is that watermark on the other side of the card top? A Boy Named Seo Feb 14 2009 11:58 AM ="metirish"]Great pictures over there...taken this morning from the #7 train Nice pic, Irish. Poor, little Shea getting swallowed up by Citi on both sides. Kong76 Feb 15 2009 01:46 PM We took a ride out there today. We packed up a camera, a couple of Heineken keg cans (KB drove) and set out. I was kind of emotional getting ready but by the time we were in the car and on our way I was kinda excited. There were a bunch of people milling about doing the same thing we were and while I didn't talk to anyone we all smiled and nodded to each other like we got it. What we really should have done was cooked a few hot dogs one more time but the beer was enough I guess to count as a tailgate of sorts. The pictures posted all over the internet get redundant after awhile I suppose, but I got a few unique images. metirish Feb 15 2009 02:20 PM Great pictures , thanks. themetfairy Feb 15 2009 03:08 PM Nice shots Kase! LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Feb 15 2009 05:20 PM Thanks, sir. Beautiful and gut-wrenching. (All in all, this offseason's been like a months-long wake... except one where the guests take parts of the deceased with them as souvenirs.) A Boy Named Seo Feb 15 2009 05:30 PM Great shots, man. Love the one of you raising your can of Heiny in salutation. holychicken Feb 15 2009 05:49 PM Whoa, crazy, KC. I was there today too and took some very similar pictures. I was the jackass with my little brown dog off the leash. He was very happy to be out running about like that. Edgy DC Feb 15 2009 06:01 PM Should have a concert out there. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Feb 15 2009 06:05 PM Or an Irish wake? -Loading up on Jameson fifths/Cueing up "Body of an American" on the iPods. Kong76 Feb 15 2009 06:13 PM holyc: I was the jackass with my little brown dog off the leash <<< I didn't see any little brown pups running about. It's funny, but I really thought I'd run into at least one Mets' fan I knew out there. Running into you woulda been cool and we coulda done a Heiny. holychicken Feb 15 2009 07:42 PM Yeah, I figured there would be no one there but the when I saw the number of people there I figured I would see someone I knew. I checked everyone saw there, but didn't recognize anyone as well. I figured my dog would have stuck out tho more than me DocTee Feb 15 2009 08:27 PM Cool pics, thanks for sharing them. Did you pour some of that Heiny on the ground, ghetto style, to remember Shea, your fallen friend? Kong76 Feb 16 2009 01:11 PM Tee: Did you pour some of that Heiny on the ground <<< I have to confess that I did deposit some used Heiny behind some construction materials. Edgy DC Feb 16 2009 01:13 PM I'm going to guess you haven't puked at Shea since October 12, 1982. Kong76 Feb 16 2009 06:24 PM I had to google the date but I didn't yak that night. John Cougar Lunchbucket Feb 17 2009 09:25 AM Nice shotz guys. ah, screw it. Zvon Feb 17 2009 12:28 PM ="SteveJRogers"] ="Iubitul"] ="Iubitul"]hmmmm.... I always saw Matlack in that image... Actually, no. Bob Ojeda. What is that watermark on the other side of the card top? That's the Desert Storm logo/thing they added to sets of cards for the troops overseas back in the day. themetfairy Feb 17 2009 02:00 PM Zvon! How have you been? attgig Feb 17 2009 03:53 PM http://twitpic.com/photos/bluenautica one last piece remaining. Frayed Knot Feb 18 2009 11:14 AM Last piece down (video available via Newsday's main sports page) It's all over but the sweeping. soupcan Feb 24 2009 08:02 AM These I guess are almost a week old. From http://www.stadiumpage.com Edgy DC Feb 24 2009 08:14 AM To heck with your copyright, Gary. soupcan Feb 24 2009 08:32 AM 'Zactly. Zvon Feb 24 2009 02:38 PM ="Edgy DC":33njl1ow]To heck with your copyright, Gary.[/quote:33njl1ow] I'll photoshop that out. Shhhh. holychicken Feb 24 2009 03:59 PM ="Zvon":13ygrx4a] ="Edgy DC":13ygrx4a]To heck with your copyright, Gary.[/quote:13ygrx4a] I'll photoshop that out. Shhhh.[/quote:13ygrx4a] Simple crop job ought to do. Edgy DC Mar 16 2009 02:56 PM Mini-Shea ripped up from the ground. http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/03/16/you-too-can-own-a-piece-of-the-mini-city/ Farmer Ted Mar 16 2009 03:14 PM They couldn't save those two satellite dishes? Coulda saved me a few bucks with DirecTV.

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I put my photos from the other night on Facebook: http://www.new.facebook.com/album.php?aid=160399&l=5271e&id=672155021 And blogged my personal greatest Shea memories as well: http://sbuchris.blogspot.com/2008/09/for-last-26-years-i-thank-you.html

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="seawolf17":1nvfku7y]The Mets, inspired, go on to lose 4-2.[/quote:1nvfku7y] Mwahahaha. themetfairy Sep 30 2008 06:48 PM Tom Seaver and Mr. Met revealing Number 1 - themetfairy Sep 30 2008 07:01 PM ="G-Fafif"]Leiter had a little grin when the boos came. He knew what it was about. Funny how comfortable he seemed slipping back into his Met persona -- just as comfortable as he was dishing/ripping management the next day. That's Al. Foster being booed was both wrong and, if you take common decency out of the equation, almost appropriate. You want to celebrate Met tradition? In the '80s, he was traditionally booed (not by me, but I was outnumbered). I was mildly disappointed on '86 reunion night that Doug Sisk was applauded. It's half a miracle that everything and everybody wasn't booed after the way Sunday's game ended and the long wait to get things going ceremonially speaking. What was with those frigging sandwich boards in the outfield? Make 'em just so! Then ignore 'em! Even Mr. Met was booed when he took down Number 1 to reveal this - Gwreck Sep 30 2008 07:02 PM People weren't booing Mr. Met. They were booing Citi Field. Kong76 Sep 30 2008 07:07 PM Agreed, it was obnoxious that a zero wasn't there and that stupid logo was. themetfairy Sep 30 2008 07:28 PM ="Gwreck":3rrhrm7m]People weren't booing Mr. Met. They were booing Citi Field.[/quote:3rrhrm7m] True. batmagadanleadoff Sep 30 2008 08:04 PM ="themetfairy":1vx5k0gu]Note how the players were wearing uniforms that corresponded with the eras when they played.[/quote:1vx5k0gu] I was pleasantly surprised to see this. The Mets are more likely than not to cheap it up one way or another with these kind of ceremonies. Do you remember one particular '69 Mets reunion Old Timers Game? The players were given trucker style baseball caps. It appears though, that they incorrectly gave Willie Mays the same flannelly jersey the '60's Mets wore. In 1972, the Mets had switched to the modern stretch polyester uniform fabric. Mays never wore the flannelly Mets uniform. I'm going by memory here, but Mays would've been the only invitee that should've worn the polyestery 72-77 uniform. Dave Kingman, for example, had a second stint as a Met in the early '80's, and was given the two button uni that the Mets wore during their bad period. Other polyester 72-77 Mets, like Cleon and Garrett and Seaver and Yogi were also Mets before 1972, and so were able to wear the flannel '60's without violating the accuracy of the presentation. Was this an oversight or did the Mets cheap it up on grounds that it wasn't cost efficient (by what -- a hundred bucks?) to produce just one 72-77 uni? I also noticed that the only '90's Mets invited were also associated with the 2000 pennant winners. There were no pure '90's Mets present. (Edgardo Alfonzo, for example, was primarily a '90's Met, but not exclusively). Nobody there wore the button down racing stripes of 91-92 or the underlined Mets unis of 93-94. Nobody there wore my all time favorite Met unis, the 95-97 unis. Personally, I would have liked to see Anthony Young, among many many others, take a bow, just for the irony of it. [u:1vx5k0gu]On Edit[/u:1vx5k0gu]: Felix Millan belonged in a 72-77 poly uni. Does anyone remember which uni he wore during the ceremonies? SteveJRogers Sep 30 2008 08:14 PM I thought they should have had Franco represent that entire bridge between the 86ers and the Piazza era by wearing the 1986 style jersey and his old 31. For one as bml said, there was no onelse representing that era, and it really was Franco's peak as a Met closer. Hell, he had lost his closing job by the time 1999 rolled around. Thought it was slightly strange to see Foster in the 1982 style as that was the only year he wore them as a Met. Though it probably doesn't fit him anymore, it was nice to see Ed Kranepool don a jersey other than the last one he ever wore as a Met. I mean he was still wearing that yellowed 1979 home jersey during the 1994 1969 tribute! Speaking of 1969. Next year, 40th Anniversary, boy it will be weird seeing them celebrate it when the place where so many of those great moments will be a parking lot. FWIW since 1988 was never recognized, despite 1973 being honored at all the big milestone years, I guess the 99-00 squad will get a nice big combo bash (I hope anyway, it'd be the only way John Olerud returns) in 2010 for their ten year anniversary of the NL Champs. batmagadanleadoff Sep 30 2008 08:16 PM Franco debuted as a Met in 1990. Why would he wear an '86 jersey? Do you think that the actual '86 Mets would want this? This makes no sense. seawolf17 Sep 30 2008 08:21 PM What "pure 90s" Mets would you have wanted there? Bonilla? Jeff Kent? Vince Coleman? Those teams kinda sucked. Maybe Bernard Gilkey or Charlie O would have been cool. I'd vote for Pete Harnisch, but that's just my personal bias. John Cougar Lunchbucket Sep 30 2008 08:24 PM I always thought Butch Huskey was kinda Metly and 90sish. batmagadanleadoff Sep 30 2008 08:27 PM I'm not hung up at all on the idea that pure '90's Mets needed to be invited. I was only noticing though. But since you asked, Olerud for sure. I already mentioned Anthony Young. Todd Hundley. (Was there an issue with Hundley? Maybe he was invited but couldn't attend. I can't remember.) I liked Saberhagen a lot even though he was a bit of an asshole. You can't hold it against any Mets that their teams sucked. Otherwise, most of the invitees would've had to have been uninvited. SteveJRogers Sep 30 2008 08:37 PM ="batmagadanleadoff":1rti000y]Franco debuted as a Met in 1990. Why would he wear an '86 jersey? Do you think that the actual '86 Mets would want this? This makes no sense.[/quote:1rti000y] 1986 style, eh save for the change in pullover to button down and stitched on lettering instead of a nameplate for the NOB remained through 1992. While I agree that the style that came after the tail and before the black shadow and the snow white tops was a great style, Franco really wasn't Franco during those years. batmagadanleadoff Sep 30 2008 08:43 PM ="SteveJRogers":2b4tvqa5] ="batmagadanleadoff":2b4tvqa5]Franco debuted as a Met in 1990. Why would he wear an '86 jersey? Do you think that the actual '86 Mets would want this? This makes no sense.[/quote:2b4tvqa5] 1986 style, eh save for the change in pullover to button down and stitched on lettering instead of a nameplate for the NOB [/quote:2b4tvqa5] You forgot the anniversary patch the 86 Mets wore. That's what mainly distinguished the 86 uni from the 90 uni. You're right about the stitched on lettering, though. If you wanna get hyper technical, the 1990 unis had the Rawlings logo on the right sleeve. The 86 unis had no Mfr. logo on the sleeves. Frayed Knot Sep 30 2008 08:43 PM The more I read this board the more I realize that virtually everyone knows and cares about uniforms A LOT more than I do. SteveJRogers Sep 30 2008 08:48 PM ="seawolf17":19bd7ajf]What "pure 90s" Mets would you have wanted there? Bonilla? Jeff Kent? Vince Coleman? Those teams kinda sucked. Maybe Bernard Gilkey or Charlie O would have been cool. I'd vote for Pete Harnisch, but that's just my personal bias.[/quote:19bd7ajf] Hmmm, not saying I'd want them there, just saying it is odd to see Franco as a representative of the 1998-2001 Mets with Piazza, Zeile, Leiter, Ventura and Alfonzo. Granted he was there, and was the "captain" but I prefer remembering Franco with his # 31 jersey during the "Worst Team Money Can Buy" era. Put it this way, it would be exactly like seeing Kranepool in a replica of his 1979 home jersey out there. Just doesn't seem right even though he was there. SteveJRogers Sep 30 2008 08:52 PM ="batmagadanleadoff":3fgsp7nc] ="SteveJRogers":3fgsp7nc] ="batmagadanleadoff":3fgsp7nc]Franco debuted as a Met in 1990. Why would he wear an '86 jersey? Do you think that the actual '86 Mets would want this? This makes no sense.[/quote:3fgsp7nc] 1986 style, eh save for the change in pullover to button down and stitched on lettering instead of a nameplate for the NOB [/quote:3fgsp7nc] You forgot the anniversary patch the 86 Mets wore. That's what mainly distinguished the 86 uni from the 90 uni. You're right about the stitched on lettering, though. If you wanna get hyper technical, the 1990 unis had the Rawlings logo on the right sleeve. The 86 unis had no Mfr. logo on the sleeves.[/quote:3fgsp7nc] I didn't notice that the versions of the unis the 86ers were wearing out there had the actual 1986 jersey patch. Course they could have been wearing what they got (except for Doc of course) back in 2006, but the point was more the same style THAT the 1986ers were wearing at the ceremony. Not an actual 1986 Franco # 31 jersey that obviously only would be a Cincy Red jersey! batmagadanleadoff Sep 30 2008 08:57 PM The 86 Mets had the anniversary patch, and what appears to be a Majestic Mfr. Logo. The real 86 unis were manufactured by Rawlings; the sleeves were logoless. Mitchell & Ness made the flannelly '60's unis for Shea Goodbye. Apparently, more than one mfr. was involved in producing the various retro jerseys. AG/DC Sep 30 2008 09:21 PM Pure 90s Mets I salute: Rico Brogna Eddie Murray Todd Hundley, I guess Jose Vizcaino Jeff Kent Mlicki Manzanillo Yoshii While I'm in Japan, I salute Takashi Kashiwada, the man who opened Asia to the Mets. Know who'd be a cool invite (and maybe the Countdown Like It Oughta Be thought of this)? Steve Chilcott. themetfairy Oct 01 2008 02:24 AM Here are some pictures from Ralph Kiner Night (July 14, 2007). The view of Citi Field from the Shea tunnel near Gate E - Fans arriving from the subway - Citi Field rising behind Shea - themetfairy Oct 01 2008 02:27 AM Between the old and the new, before the September 14, 2008 Mr. Met Dash - themetfairy Oct 01 2008 06:07 AM This is an old photo. How old? Pre-MiniKnight old - the kid in the backpack is his older brother, who is now significantly taller than I am, and the little girl is now off to college. Oh, and that's me in the middle. In 1994 the Mets entered into a deal that included the installation of Nickelodeon's Extreme Baseball at Shea mini theme park just beyond right field. Living in the City with a 4-year-old and a toddler, ya gotta believe we made a lot of trips to that park. We were there for its opening, due to D-Dad's business connections, playing in the theme park along with some of the Mets who checked it out before that night's game (the only mar in that incredibly fun evening was the news that Dwight Gooden had entered rehab for the second time). When our planned baseball birthday party for our daughter at Shea (yes - there was a time in her life when she was actually into that kind of thing and didn't wince at the thought of baseball) was unworkable due to the strike, we amended the plan and had her party at the Nickelodeon park (for those of you who remember what Nickelodeon was into back then, you'll be amused to know that I was slimed. Slime is kind of like green vanilla pudding with an odd consistency...). This picture, though, was taken at a more routine time. We were at the park one afternoon (possibly 4th of July) and took a tour of Shea that included the clubhouse and the field. The kids and I sat in the Mets dugout while D-Dad took this picture. I generally hate having my picture taken, but this was an occasion that was worthy of an exception - themetfairy Oct 01 2008 06:12 AM This is a picture that iubitul took. D-Dad, a couple of friends and I had just completed the Run to Home Plate. We're in the Shea outfield, and the picture was taken above from the Picnic Area - (Psst - iubitul - did you ever scan the other photos from that day? There are a couple that would be fun to post if you did). G-Fafif Oct 01 2008 06:19 AM Not a photo-related comment but regarding invitees, Todd Hundley did receive a shoutout from Howie Rose when he ran down the list of those who couldn't be with us today. I was struck that the mostly dismal 1991-1996 Mets were represented by John Franco and nobody else, essentially. HoJo, Sid and Doc played on those teams, but aren't associated with them. Fonzie came up in '95, but he is a part of the postseason teams that came later in the mind's eye. So is Franco, I guess. Only because they went to the trouble of tracking down Doug Flynn, Craig Swan and John Stearns (and Mazzilli, I suppose, though he has '86 bona fides), did I get a little hung up on there not being a Rico Brogna (good fit, I hear), a Lance Johnson, or, as suggested, the Anthony Young. themetfairy Oct 01 2008 06:19 AM MK hanging out with some friends during a Mets Fan Club for Kids clinic. I think this was in 2005 - themetfairy Oct 01 2008 06:39 AM On the day I bought my good camera, I took this shot of David Wright connecting for a homer - Time will tell whether this was beginner's luck, but I'm happy with the shot. Benjamin Grimm Oct 01 2008 07:19 AM ="G-Fafif":2bw2zl3t]Not a photo-related comment but regarding invitees, Todd Hundley did receive a shoutout from Howie Rose when he ran down the list of those who couldn't be with us today. I was struck that the mostly dismal 1991-1996 Mets were represented by John Franco and nobody else, essentially. HoJo, Sid and Doc played on those teams, but aren't associated with them. Fonzie came up in '95, but he is a part of the postseason teams that came later in the mind's eye. So is Franco, I guess. Only because they went to the trouble of tracking down Doug Flynn, Craig Swan and John Stearns (and Mazzilli, I suppose, though he has '86 bona fides), did I get a little hung up on there not being a Rico Brogna (good fit, I hear), a Lance Johnson, or, as suggested, the Anthony Young.[/quote:2bw2zl3t] I was thinking along similar lines this morning in the car. There weren't many players present whose careers were strictly in the lean years and the in-between years. There were a few guys from the 1960's, like Frank Thomas, and 70's guys like Flynn, Swan, Stearns, and Kingman, but overall, very few of the returnees were guys who didn't appear in a World Series for the Mets. batmagadanleadoff Oct 01 2008 09:50 AM ="G-Fafif":1bl0kw4g]Only because they went to the trouble of tracking down Doug Flynn, Craig Swan and John Stearns (and Mazzilli, I suppose, though he has '86 bona fides), did I get a little hung up on there not being a Rico Brogna (good fit, I hear), a Lance Johnson, or, as suggested, the Anthony Young.[/quote:1bl0kw4g] Though I would've liked to see Anthony Young walk onto the Shea field last Sunday, as I already mentioned, I did not reasonably expect to see him. Until George Theodore was announced. Once The Stork was delivered, I thought that anything was possible and that everyone was in play. But not Bobby Bonilla. G-Fafif Oct 01 2008 10:05 AM ="batmagadanleadoff":36rnfjz9] ="G-Fafif":36rnfjz9]Only because they went to the trouble of tracking down Doug Flynn, Craig Swan and John Stearns (and Mazzilli, I suppose, though he has '86 bona fides), did I get a little hung up on there not being a Rico Brogna (good fit, I hear), a Lance Johnson, or, as suggested, the Anthony Young.[/quote:36rnfjz9] Though I would've liked to see Anthony Young walk onto the Shea field last Sunday, as I already mentioned, I did not reasonably expect to see him. Until George Theodore was announced. Once The Stork was delivered, I thought that anything was possible and that everyone was in play. But not Bobby Bonilla.[/quote:36rnfjz9] Shea Amnesty could have been the theme and everybody but Vince Coleman could have been welcomed and absolved. I could have applauded Bonilla. I could have applauded Alomar. I could have applauded Hebner just for old times' sake. I think, if sufficiently intoxicated, I could have applauded Glavine. But not Vince Coleman. A.Y., however, needed no amnesty. He was always treated well amid the disaster that went down around him. It would have been a classy Storklike move. themetfairy Oct 01 2008 02:26 PM MiniKnight's first game at Shea - I love how D-Dad caught Mr. Met's pixelated image smiling and waving on the scoreboard in the background. metsguyinmichigan Oct 01 2008 08:40 PM That's Mr. Met bestowing his blessing! Awesome shot! themetfairy Oct 01 2008 09:01 PM D-Dad says thanks soupcan Oct 02 2008 08:58 AM Not a Shea photo per se but still... I was looking through a box of crap in my attic and came across a Mets scorecard from 1985. I thought 'how cool would it be if this was from opening day and I actually scored it?'. I opened it up and guess what - it was and I did. Surprising to me because that opener I drove down from Syracuse with about 6-7 fraternity brothers and sat in the bitter cold of the upper deck. I'm sure I was drunk and my hands were frozen. In those days though I did score pretty much every game I went to. I checked UMDB against my log and I didn't do a half-bad job... Heep appears in the boxscore but not on my card, until you look closer - In the 7th it appears Heep was announced but I suppose Whitey replaced Campbell with Hassler for the lefty/righty thing so John Christensen took the AB. You can see that I wrote Heep's name but then crossed it out. Why was Davey PH-ing Heep for Straw though? Game was tied 5-5 men on first and second 2 out. What am I not seeing or remembering? Also - Note that Staub pinch-hit in the 9th and Darling ran for him. John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 02 2008 09:10 AM Holy shit, nice handwriting. Are you an architect? soupcan Oct 02 2008 09:11 AM Oh gosh really? Thanks. Its usually much neater, I was kind of embarassed to post it because I thought it was pretty sloppy. Not an architect but an illustrator in a previous life. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 09:13 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 02 2008 09:15 AM Strawberry opened the 1985 season hurt. His opening day start was in question and he did not play at all in the Mets next game. He missed a significant amount of playing time in 1985 to injuries. May I ask what frat you belonged to? Centerfield Oct 02 2008 09:13 AM ="themetfairy"]MiniKnight's first game at Shea - I love how D-Dad caught Mr. Met's pixelated image smiling and waving on the scoreboard in the background. That's amazing. MK already looks like himself. Not sure if that made any sense. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 09:17 AM How come my post above displays a "last edited" note even though this is the very next post? soupcan Oct 02 2008 09:19 AM ="batmagadanleadoff"]May I ask what frat you belonged to? Thanks for the Strawberry answer. HahnSolo Oct 02 2008 09:21 AM ="soupcan":3uc7yjo2] In those days though I did score pretty much every game I went to.[/quote:3uc7yjo2] You scored in the Shea upper deck? I should hang out at more games with you. metirish Oct 02 2008 09:24 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 02 2008 09:25 AM Brilliant posts from metfairy and soup...MF , the Mets cap looks over sized....what happened? Great score card soup , I scored my first game ever this season, in the second to last row up top behind home plate. It didn't look anything like yours though... soupcan Oct 02 2008 09:24 AM ="HahnSolo":2y3lkhxq]You scored in the Shea upper deck? I should hang out at more games with you.[/quote:2y3lkhxq] It was a looooong time ago. Its in me but its been hibernating for a while. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 09:29 AM ="soupcan":3jnfvsp6]Thanks for the Strawberry answer.[/quote:3jnfvsp6] That's on Comstock, with a lot of other frat houses, right? Did you see my Sherman Douglas post[/url:3jnfvsp6] from a few days ago? soupcan Oct 02 2008 09:32 AM Yup. 721 Comstock to be exact. I did see the Douglas post, you were right. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 09:33 AM Back on topic. Frayed Knot Oct 02 2008 09:34 AM ="batmagadanleadoff"]Strawberry opened the 1985 season hurt. His opening day start was in question and he did not play at all in the Mets next game. He missed a significant amount of playing time in 1985 to injuries. Most of his missed time was on account of when he rolled over on his thumb making a catch in a game I was at - in mid-May I think it was. ]How come my post above displays a "last edited" note even though this is the very next post? All that means is that you edited something in that post after the thread was active again. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 09:39 AM ="Frayed Knot":nd2dud0e] ="batmagadanleadoff":nd2dud0e]Strawberry opened the 1985 season hurt. His opening day start was in question and he did not play at all in the Mets next game. He missed a significant amount of playing time in 1985 to injuries.[/quote:nd2dud0e] Most of his missed time was on account of when he rolled over on his thumb making a catch in a game I was at - in mid-May I think it was. [/quote:nd2dud0e] You're right. But he opened the season with a nagging injury as well. I have the video of that complete game. I'll try and find it but it may take me a while, because I haven't converted that tape to disc. My old VHS's are a disorganized mess. dgwphotography Oct 02 2008 09:43 AM Soup - that's great stuff. I was sitting down underneath in the loge that day. Freaking Hernandez - strikes out in a big spot leading off the top of the 10th. So unclutch. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 09:49 AM ="Frayed Knot":itaev3d1]All that means is that you edited something in that post after the thread was active again.[/quote:itaev3d1] What do you mean by "thread was active again"? Based on experience, I thought that the "last edited" notation was activated only if the post was edited after someone else posted a subsequent message. soupcan Oct 02 2008 09:55 AM ="batmagadanleadoff":2of6od08]What do you mean by "thread was active again"? Based on experience, I thought that the "last edited" notation was activated only if the post was edited after someone else posted a subsequent message.[/quote:2of6od08] You edited at 11:15. CF posted at 11:13. OE: No, I'm wrong. That's weird. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 10:01 AM ="soupcan":3pdd5j9f] ="batmagadanleadoff":3pdd5j9f]What do you mean by "thread was active again"? Based on experience, I thought that the "last edited" notation was activated only if the post was edited after someone else posted a subsequent message.[/quote:3pdd5j9f] You edited at 11:15. CF posted at 11:13[/quote:3pdd5j9f] I dunno about that. When I originally posted that message, it appeared after CF's post. Why would my subsequent minute later edit appear based on an unedited post showing prior to my post, and thus, prior to my edit? batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 10:02 AM ="soupcan":2yeh8i49]OE: No, I'm wrong. That's weird.[/quote:2yeh8i49] Now you get it. themetfairy Oct 02 2008 10:38 AM ="Centerfield"] ="themetfairy"]MiniKnight's first game at Shea - I love how D-Dad caught Mr. Met's pixelated image smiling and waving on the scoreboard in the background. That's amazing. MK already looks like himself. Not sure if that made any sense. It makes sense. He's recognizable, even at three weeks old. Irish - I'm not sure what was up with the hat. That soon after a C-section I thought I was doing well getting dressed at all seawolf17 Oct 02 2008 12:03 PM Actually, as long as the message has been read at least once, then it gets the "edited" tag. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 02:26 PM ="seawolf17":neearbs2]Actually, as long as the message has been read at least once, then it gets the "edited" tag.[/quote:neearbs2] I'm not convinced because I know for sure that on occasion, I have edited some of my messages as much as a day after posting them. So long as my message in question was always the last one in the thread, the "last edited" note was never triggered. I know that others read the post after it was posted but prior to my edit based on the page view count. So based on my personal use, merely reading a post wouldn't be enough to trigger the edited notation if that post was ever to be edited. AG/DC Oct 02 2008 02:31 PM How about if somebody else had already hit the response button, even if they hadn't submitted? Frayed Knot Oct 02 2008 02:34 PM I think the mods should just confess that they're monitoring all of BatMags movements and activities. Nothing personal mind you, just be careful what you say in the bathroom. You never know who's listening. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 02:47 PM ="Frayed Knot":1klmkujp]I think the mods should just confess that they're monitoring all of BatMags movements and activities. Nothing personal mind you, just be careful what you say in the bathroom. You never know who's listening.[/quote:1klmkujp] That's what I always thought. Do you know that my avatar disappeared mysteriously? And that the feature that would allow me to simply submit another avatar is missing from my control panel or whatever it's called? What do you make of that, huh? dgwphotography Oct 02 2008 02:55 PM I don't remember if I've posted this one before: Fireworks Night, July 3, 2006: soupcan Oct 02 2008 03:02 PM Wow. cooby Oct 02 2008 03:37 PM ="soupcan":1twkt7gk] In those days though I did score pretty much every game I went to.[/quote:1twkt7gk] HAHAHAH, I am sure though that by now somebody else has already beaten me to this line, I'll go back and look cooby Oct 02 2008 03:40 PM Yep! themetfairy Oct 02 2008 03:50 PM ="Iubitul":2bej8qlv]I don't remember if I've posted this one before: Fireworks Night, July 3, 2006: [/quote:2bej8qlv] Whether it's a rerun or not, it's gorgeous. soupcan Oct 02 2008 04:48 PM ="cooby":1hpi6tfp] ="soupcan":1hpi6tfp] In those days though I did score pretty much every game I went to.[/quote:1hpi6tfp] HAHAHAH, I am sure though that by now somebody else has already beaten me to this line, I'll go back and look[/quote:1hpi6tfp] DOH! I didn't realize HahnSolo was taking the piss! I'm a moron. metsguyinmichigan Oct 02 2008 07:27 PM ="themetfairy":2i6sr6pi] ="Iubitul":2i6sr6pi]I don't remember if I've posted this one before: Fireworks Night, July 3, 2006: [/quote:2i6sr6pi] Whether it's a rerun or not, it's gorgeous.[/quote:2i6sr6pi] Clearly you're too good at this for it to just be a hobby. Are you a professional? I'm just in awe. I snapped shots of some of the same small details that you did -- like the little NYs in the grates around the trees -- yet you picked a really cool, unconventional angle to shoot it. Beautiful and creative. dgwphotography Oct 03 2008 12:32 AM ="metsguyinmichigan"] Clearly you're too good at this for it to just be a hobby. Are you a professional? I'm just in awe. I snapped shots of some of the same small details that you did -- like the little NYs in the grates around the trees -- yet you picked a really cool, unconventional angle to shoot it. Beautiful and creative. Thanks metsguy. I'm not a professional, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night... Seriously, it's a hobby - I'm a web developer by trade. But, it's also a passion that centers me. I can have a completely lousy day at work, but if I get to spend 15 productive minutes behind my camera, I'm completely relaxed and centered... Here's a couple of oldies. Please ignore the quality - my film scanner isn't working, so I had to scan the prints on a flatbed... July 4, 1986 - Nolan Ryan pitching to Gary Carter: September 18, 1986 - The best part of this pic is Backman's expression. Hungover much? John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 03 2008 05:46 AM Just look how much better those old shots look without Keyspan signs, giant dunkin donuts cups, too-dark blue paint, etc etc. This thread is going to make me dig out what I can find, but I'll start with this classikc: batmagadanleadoff Oct 03 2008 08:24 AM ="Iubitul":1jek1hyd]I don't remember if I've posted this one before: Fireworks Night, July 3, 2006: [/quote:1jek1hyd] I was surprised to read that you're not a pro. Professional is the first word that came to my mind when I saw this beautiful picture of Shea with the fireworks. Where were you sitting (or standing) when you took the picture of Carter batting against Ryan? AG/DC Oct 03 2008 08:33 AM If I remember him describing that photo last year, he put his camera down, satisfied he got the shot he wanted, and noticed the Mets team photographer right next to him going for the same shot. seawolf17 Oct 03 2008 08:34 AM Lost in that shot is the kid in the Wright shirt, bottom right corner, watching the fireworks. A nice touch. dgwphotography Oct 03 2008 11:56 AM ="batmagadanleadoff":2duv67l2]Where were you sitting (or standing) when you took the picture of Carter batting against Ryan?[/quote:2duv67l2] Thanks :-) I was able to sneak down to the first row behind home plate - got a lot of good shots that were on KC's site. dgwphotography Oct 03 2008 12:04 PM ="AG/DC":1gfkczpr]If I remember him describing that photo last year, he put his camera down, satisfied he got the shot he wanted, and noticed the Mets team photographer right next to him going for the same shot.[/quote:1gfkczpr] That was the first time I shot the fireworks, back in 1990. They had a photo contest sponsored by Kodak every year - I had won in the memorabilia category in 1989, and had my picture in the 1990 yearbook. So, I had the idea to try and shoot the fireworks that July - that's when I ran into Marc Lavine. When the 1991 yearbook came, and I saw his fireworks shot on the cover, I knew there was no way that mine made it into the yearbook. There's a post script to that story: I ran into Marc again in 2006. I snuck around to behind home plate in loge to take pictures of Mike Pelfrey in his ML debut. Marc was standing in the walkway right next to me. A security guard came over and started giving Marc a hard time about standing there. I leaned over the railing and asked him, "What, doesn't he recognize you?" Gotta love the security at Shea. Kong76 Oct 03 2008 05:44 PM The old school stuff is still there if anyone wants to re-explore .... http://www.kcmets.com/DGWPhotography/photonew1.htm metsguyinmichigan Oct 03 2008 05:48 PM I love the wallpaper shot of Reyes as a B-Met! SteveJRogers Oct 03 2008 06:25 PM ="Iubitul":2lf7a8xg] They had a photo contest sponsored by Kodak every year - I had won in the memorabilia category in 1989, and had my picture in the 1990 yearbook.[/quote:2lf7a8xg] I'm shocked that a Nikonian like you would stoop so low as to enter a contest run by Kodak! = dgwphotography Oct 03 2008 06:43 PM ="SteveJRogers":38evkptp] ="Iubitul":38evkptp] They had a photo contest sponsored by Kodak every year - I had won in the memorabilia category in 1989, and had my picture in the 1990 yearbook.[/quote:38evkptp] I'm shocked that a Nikonian like you would stoop so low as to enter a contest run by Kodak! =[/quote:38evkptp] Film, Steve. Film. I loved Kodak 64 slide film. Actually, starting in 1995, Kodak offered the DCS460[/url:38evkptp]. It was a 6mp digital camera which used a Nikon N90s SLR for the body. soupcan Oct 03 2008 09:07 PM ="Iubitul":2hzt6uz2]That was the first time I shot the fireworks, back in 1990. They had a photo contest sponsored by Kodak every year - I had won in the memorabilia category in 1989, and had my picture in the 1990 yearbook. [/quote:2hzt6uz2] So I read this and flipped through my '90 yearbook - holy cow - is (was) all that stuff in the picture yours? G-Fafif Oct 04 2008 04:04 AM I ran back to the '90 yearbook as well and was quite impressed with the collection as well as the photograph. A copy of "Nails" even! I'll bet Lenny Dykstra never read it. dgwphotography Oct 04 2008 05:28 AM Thanks guys. Yes, all that stuff in the picture is mine, and that collection has only grown... Of course I have a copy of Nails, my wife was such a big Dykstra fan, she even, gulp, rooted for the Phillies for a while when he got traded... soupcan Oct 06 2008 07:57 AM Taken on Opening Day 1987... Notice that there are no neon players on Shea yet. Sorry about the quality - haven't figured out the best settings for photos on the scanner yet. metirish Oct 06 2008 08:06 AM Those are great pictures soup , maybe it's the contrast but it looks cold and bleak that day.Is that guy wearing a batting helmet? DocTee Oct 06 2008 08:07 AM If you hadn't told me those were from 1987, I'd ve guessed they were from a decade earlier (based on the vehicles in the parking lot). AG/DC Oct 06 2008 08:08 AM Old school. That's how Met fans roll. soupcan Oct 06 2008 08:15 AM ="metirish":1lvfa5e8]Those are great pictures soup , maybe it's the contrast but it looks cold and bleak that day.Is that guy wearing a batting helmet?[/quote:1lvfa5e8] Cold and bleak - yes. Batting helmet - yes. ="DocTee":1lvfa5e8]If you hadn't told me those were from 1987, I'd ve guessed they were from a decade earlier (based on the vehicles in the parking lot).[/quote:1lvfa5e8] I agree - isn't it funny how its always the cars in photos that give a person a sense of the age of the picture? ="AG/DC":1lvfa5e8]Old school. That's how Met fans roll.[/quote:1lvfa5e8] Damn skippy. soupcan Oct 06 2008 08:31 AM Notice no skyline on the scoreboard. Round cut-outs in foul territory on either side of the plate. Never knew what those were for until I watched a DVD of game 4 of the '69 Series. During player intros before the game, Cuellar was warming up in it, tossing from there. Can you see straw-hat, hand-rolling lady in the front row behind homeplate? That's before they added the additional VIP seats and effectively put her 10 or so rows back. What the heck's going on at second base? AG/DC Oct 06 2008 08:37 AM I like the life-size bendable plastic Keith Hernandez figure out there. Nothing says "dreary opening day" like Ralph Kiner walking alone through the shade in his raincoat. soupcan Oct 06 2008 09:06 AM You think that's Ralph? I was going to guess Cashen. metirish Oct 06 2008 09:07 AM I was thinking M. Donald Grant . soupcan Oct 06 2008 09:08 AM He was long gone by then. metirish Oct 06 2008 09:08 AM Of course he wasn't even with the mets then...never mind me. Actually I meant Nelson Doubleday but I'm still probably wrong. soupcan Oct 06 2008 09:23 AM That could be Nelson. I don't think his hair was completely white yet in '87. batmagadanleadoff Oct 06 2008 09:24 AM I think it's Cashen, though it's hard to tell. I don't think it's Kiner; that's not Ralph's way of walking. AG/DC Oct 06 2008 09:26 AM Funny, I think that's exactly what makes him look Kineriffic. Funnier still is that I doubt either of us has seen Kiner walk more than a handful of times, but we both have a distinctive impression. Among other reasons, I think it's Ralph because he appears to be coming from a press scrum. batmagadanleadoff Oct 06 2008 09:31 AM ="soupcan"]That could be Nelson. I don't think his hair was completely white yet in '87. Maybe not, but it was surely on its way. That was the first game back since Wilpon wrested away Nelson's controlling interest in the club. Straw and Keith went at each other that Spring. Doc was in Smithers and at age 22, would never be consistently great again. Backman's "forty fuckin' car crashes" was already proving prophetic figuratively, if not literally. John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 06 2008 09:41 AM I would guess Doubleday. themetfairy Oct 06 2008 09:50 AM A couple of pictures from the 1987 opener - Opening ceremonies - First Pitch - John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 06 2008 09:57 AM Check out skinny Barry soupcan Oct 06 2008 10:00 AM Nice ones Fairy. Apparently you had much better seats than me... AG/DC Oct 06 2008 10:00 AM I like the area around the apple hat, strewn with empty crates and lurking hoods. metirish Oct 06 2008 10:03 AM I like how metfairy's picture helps answer who the people out in center field are in the picture soup posted, kind of cool that two members can post similar pictures for the same opening day in 1987. Farmer Ted Oct 06 2008 10:09 AM Any photos of Banner Day in the archives? Those would a nice treat. themetfairy Oct 06 2008 10:11 AM ="soupcan":19xbemwi]Nice ones Fairy. Apparently you had much better seats than me...[/quote:19xbemwi] Thanks soup. I worked for a law firm in 1987. There were only two good things about the job. One was my office (Empire State Building, 49th Floor, southern view) and the other was that the firm had season tickets and one of the partners would occasionally offer two of the seats to D-Dad and me. themetfairy Oct 06 2008 11:23 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 06 2008 11:45 AM I went into the old photo albums to scan some pictures from 1994's Nickelodeon's Extreme Baseball at Shea experiment. These are from the VIP Opening Party on June 28, 1994. I have pictures of each of my kids at about age 2 with John Franco. This is the one with my older son - We wouldn't have wanted to try to wipe the smile off of Bobby Bo's face - Back in 1994, we had no reason to dislike Jose Vizcaino - themetfairy Oct 06 2008 11:25 AM July 4, 1994. I previously posted the picture of myself with the kids in the dugout. Here are some other photos from that day. From the stadium tour that we took that day - themetfairy Oct 06 2008 11:30 AM Those of you who know my daughter now will be shocked to hear that there was a time she actually rooted for the Mets. We planned to have her 5th birthday at a game at Shea, but the plans were changed on account of strike. We had the birthday at the Nickelodeon park instead. The birthday girl - Cute cake - If you remember Nickelodeon at the time, slime was a big thing. The birthday girl didn't want to be slimed herself, but wanted to slime her mom instead. Let it not be said that I've never done anything for that girl - metirish Oct 06 2008 11:41 AM Absolutely classic , the clothes the uniforms , the sunglasses , everything. We need a thread for classic Mets and Shea pictures like these. Benjamin Grimm Oct 06 2008 12:02 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 06 2008 12:04 PM .. Benjamin Grimm Oct 06 2008 12:03 PM I've been thinking of putting a Shea slideshow on the UMDB. I have a few pictures of my own of the "Shea experience" that I've taken over the last couple of years. Some with architectural details, some of fans crowding through the gates, etc. I've been meaning to ask for submissions of similar photos, and I guess this is as good a time and place as any to start. I'm more interested in "neutral" photos rather than those that feature smiling friends or family members. Some of the photos posted in this thread would be great for that. If anyone who's posted any photos objects to the pictures being used in this manner, please let me know. (I intend to specifically ask permission to use any of these before I actually do so.) A couple of weeks ago I created a prototype slide show. Take a peek if you like: http://www.leaptoad.com/mets/slidetest.php Some day there will be similar slideshows available to all visitors, and they'll have individual themes. Right now I'm slowly putting together one that will capture the events surrounding the final day at Shea Stadium. themetfairy Oct 06 2008 12:32 PM Nice slideshow BG. And I have no objection if you'd like to use any photo that I've posted on the UMDB metirish Oct 06 2008 12:34 PM I like the prototype, nice work. themetfairy Oct 06 2008 06:07 PM May 30, 1999 was a Beanie Babies giveaway day at Shea. I was writing for Mary Beth's Bean Bag World Magazine at the time, and i was able to get press credentials for the game. I was constantly expecting security to tap me on the shoulder and tell me that I didn't belong on the field, but they didn't. Here's my press pass - Diamond Vision - D-Dad took this shot of me from the Field Level - Olerud and the Shea Scoreboard - The Diamond Vision later, from the Upper Deck - Pictures of players to follow.... themetfairy Oct 06 2008 06:12 PM Most of the players were incredibly good sports about having their picture taken with the Beanie Baby du Jour. My big regret was not asking Bobby Valentine for a picture, A) because he would have; and it was a Valentina Beanie Baby. The only one who turned me down was Todd Pratt, but since he was signing autographs at the time I'll give him a pass on that. Rey Ordonez - Roger Cedeno (whose solo homer provided the Mets with their only run as they lost that day) - Edgardo Alfonzo - Mike Piazza (who not only posed for this picture, but graciously gave me a little blather quote for my article) - Benny Agbayani - Fman99 Oct 06 2008 08:08 PM Great pictures MetFairy. How awesome to see those guys being good sports. Man I loved that '99 squad. themetfairy Oct 06 2008 08:23 PM They were a great bunch, for sure. cooby Oct 06 2008 09:16 PM NICE seawolf17 Oct 07 2008 12:57 PM Funny photos. What a neat experience. themetfairy Oct 07 2008 01:41 PM Thanks. It was surreal, and very cool soupcan Oct 13 2008 07:27 AM No seats! AG/DC Oct 13 2008 07:44 AM Well, that one guy has a seat. I think we can take him. metsguyinmichigan Oct 13 2008 09:51 AM He's guarding the stop sign before the people from MeiGray come to pick it up for the auction. soupcan Oct 15 2008 08:46 PM Found these pictures in a thread at baseball fever... AG/DC Oct 15 2008 09:44 PM Agh. themetfairy Oct 16 2008 04:42 AM That one gave me a bad dream last night Benjamin Grimm Oct 16 2008 08:13 AM I found this one the most painful: metirish Oct 16 2008 08:14 AM Great pictures , thanks soup. AG/DC Oct 16 2008 08:24 AM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ut1H4o_ie8c metirish Oct 16 2008 08:50 AM Great song edgy , a blast form the past. dgwphotography Oct 16 2008 09:01 AM I think I'm going through the anger phase of mourning. I'm sure I'll come around, but right now, I just so angry over everything regarding the dismantling of Shea, and the move to his corporate playground. Through it all, I keep getting the feeling that Shea was ours, and CitiField belongs to him. Bastard. AG/DC Oct 16 2008 09:19 AM I don'think it's us against him when the vast majority of the fans and media supported the move. If so, it's a slender us. Farmer Ted Oct 16 2008 10:52 AM Painful. But ther new place will be a treat. themetfairy Oct 16 2008 11:06 AM The new place will be ours. We'll make it ours, dammit! G-Fafif Oct 16 2008 03:51 PM Tour[/url:24y3xk17] of Citi Field parking lot... metirish Oct 16 2008 06:05 PM Whats with the actual hole in the pitchers mound? Benjamin Grimm Oct 16 2008 06:53 PM I'm guessing there was something buried under the mound that they wanted to retrieve. I don't have a great guess as to what it was. My best guess is some kind of camera, but I don't recall seeing any mounds-eye views on any telecasts. soupcan Oct 16 2008 07:06 PM ="metirish":35vh26wx]Whats with the actual hole in the pitchers mound?[/quote:35vh26wx] I'm guessing that they dug up the pitching rubber - to sell it of course - and that hole is a result. dgwphotography Oct 16 2008 07:18 PM no - I think that was where the plumbing was for the hose they used to water down the infield.... soupcan Oct 17 2008 07:31 AM ="Iubitul"]no - I think that was where the plumbing was for the hose they used to water down the infield.... Makes more sense. Wonder how much they're selling that for Zvon Oct 19 2008 06:48 PM I didn't realize this til recently. I thought I was bummed at seasons end because the team failed to get to the post season. But being a Met fan for 40 years, this is really something I'm used to. For the team, there was/is always next year. But this was it for Shea.... This is what really bummed me out. That they couldn't get Shea to the post season one more time. That would have been the way send her off. Great pictures here posted by all, and really fun to view. Iubitul, your pictures of Shea are breathtaking. Absolutely breathtaking and beautiful. Everybody, thanks for sharing them. themetfairy Oct 19 2008 06:51 PM Warewolf! Good to see you, man. Don't be a stranger! metirish Oct 20 2008 12:29 PM Found this persons work over at Faith & Fear( looks like a few have been posted here already) , very extensive collection of great pictures. What does picture #40 show? picnic area? http://sports.webshots.com/album/568107635SUQZeD Read this from Jason over at Faith and Fear. http://www.faithandfearinflushing.com/ Farmer Ted Oct 20 2008 07:37 PM Where the heck are they storing 55,000 seats? metsguyinmichigan Oct 21 2008 08:21 AM Uniwatch reports that the Agee marker appears to have been saved! Willets Point Oct 21 2008 08:25 AM ="Farmer Ted"]Where the heck are they storing 55,000 seats? dgwphotography Oct 22 2008 04:55 AM ="metsguyinmichigan"] Uniwatch reports that the Agee marker appears to have been saved! Yeah - probably to be sold... soupcan Oct 22 2008 07:40 AM Farmer Ted Oct 22 2008 02:52 PM I share Belushi's reaction. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gI3nb9x5VhY Zvon Oct 22 2008 06:11 PM ="soupcan"] Oh my.... This is difficult to witness. PiggiesTomatoes Oct 24 2008 08:29 PM A couple of shots from my only game this season -- at least it was a win. The only win against the pitiful Mariners this season. Down in Tampa now and don't get back to NY all that often for games. > My basehit at Shea. Fantasy Camp reunion in 2006... The place may have been a bit of a dump but it was our dump. Rockin' Doc Oct 25 2008 05:37 AM Nice pictures. Welcome to the pool. Nice handle, I hope you stick around. metirish Oct 25 2008 05:46 AM ="PiggiesTomatoes":2399a9u7] The place may have been a bit of a dump but it was our dump.[/quote:2399a9u7] Thank you and welcome. metsguyinmichigan Oct 25 2008 01:01 PM Great photos! I can't imagine how glorious it was to get that hit. Welcome aBordick! themetfairy Oct 25 2008 01:43 PM This little piggy is a welcome addition to the Pool - Welcome Zvon Oct 25 2008 07:00 PM Excellent pics Piggie! Actually batting at Shea must have been an incredible experience. Is that a female catcher? PiggiesTomatoes Oct 25 2008 07:59 PM Thanks, everyone, for the kind words. I'd joined some time ago but didn't visit for a while, then got locked out and getting back in was a bitch! Riffraff filter must work. Getting to play on the field was a thrill and yes, it was a female catcher. She was the only female in camp and was a trooper. Regards, JF Kong76 Oct 26 2008 05:03 PM PT: joined some time ago but didn't visit for a while, then got locked out and getting back in was a bitch! Riffraff filter must work <<< Read your email around 9 AM on Fri and answered, and had you set up before 6 PM that same day. No one was locked out and getting back was as easy as sending an email. PiggiesTomatoes Oct 26 2008 07:33 PM I wasn't being critical...thought that use of the term riffraff filter would have communicated sarcasm. That said, I'd attempted logging in unsuccessfully with my original password without luck and when I tried to use the forgot password link, I repeatedly received a message that my name and email address did not match. Then, I was unable to find an email address on the forum to contact, ultimately "googling" to find the admin addy. It wasn't easy...but I do appreciate the prompt reply once I emailed the correct address. JF G-Fafif Oct 26 2008 07:38 PM PT, Great pictures. At first glance I wondered how the Mariners game was suddenly being played in daylight. Per your sobriquet, let us know who will be ready first: Hausman or Kobel. Kong76 Oct 27 2008 05:41 AM Maybe it's me and I'm just being cranky and defensive but the email address is right up top: Everybody in the pool! Joining us for off-season hot stove discussion is easy. Shoot us an email [click here] Glad you re-found us. Willets Point Oct 27 2008 01:12 PM Welcome Piggie! You can hold the conch while you're here. soupcan Oct 28 2008 10:54 AM will the Dunkin' Dounts cup be the last man standing? metirish Oct 28 2008 10:57 AM Helps keep the workers running. Gwreck Oct 28 2008 11:46 AM It's somewhat refreshing that nobody was dumb enough to shell out the ~$5000 the greedy MeiGray group was asking for it. AG/DC Oct 28 2008 11:47 AM Or they're moving it to the new digs. seawolf17 Oct 28 2008 01:12 PM It'd be funny if they just left it in the parking lot. Benjamin Grimm Oct 28 2008 01:22 PM They do seem to have demolished around it. Maybe it will be moved to Citi Field. I imagine the new place will have some advertising, no? SteveJRogers Oct 28 2008 01:23 PM ="Gwreck":1zlwh6r8]It's somewhat refreshing that nobody was dumb enough to shell out the ~$5000 the greedy MeiGray group was asking for it.[/quote:1zlwh6r8] Say what you will about memorabilia sellers like MeiGray and Steiner, that probably really is the going rate for that kind of unique advertising as memorabilia. Honestly, there probably is a market for stuff like that; McDonald arches, Big Boys Big Boy, etc. Just no one that got involved in the Shea Memorabilia auctions was into it. metirish Oct 28 2008 01:28 PM ="SteveJRogers":1991yy98] Say what you will about memorabilia sellers like MeiGray and Steiner,[/quote:1991yy98] Thank you , I will. Fucking scum they are. Benjamin Grimm Oct 28 2008 01:33 PM I'm not sure I understand the animosity. metirish Oct 28 2008 01:39 PM Well he said say what you want so I did.... soupcan Oct 28 2008 02:15 PM I guess as long as there are people out there who are willing to pay those ridiculous prices then I don't have an issue with someone charging it. Capitalism and all that. I am upset at the kind of money they are asking for stuff though. I intended to get a pair of seats but $869.00? Really? For what will amount to a novelty in my yard? Then I looked around the website and I thought that this: ...would be cool. But those are up over $1,200.00. They so take advantage of our own feelings towards the team - hundreds of dollars for bricks, almost a grand for seats. Its just a little disappointing is all. soupcan Nov 01 2008 11:01 AM Say goodbye to the shrimpeaters! Field level frst base side is the first to go. Valadius Nov 01 2008 11:21 AM Do they HAVE to have debris strewn around that wonderful field? Kong76 Nov 01 2008 11:26 AM SJR: Say what you will about memorabilia sellers like MeiGray <<< Irish: Thank you , I will. Fucking scum they are <<< I know the guy who was the first premier club guy in line and I didn't get the impression that the guys willing to spend the cash thought MeiGray was hus- tling anyone ... they're brokers. He advertised the event to everyone on his memorabilia buying list and I assume he did so to generate interest among those who were obviously interested. I hope he got a kick back, it's the American way! I wrote back that they're gonna cause a few divorces to which he quipped, "never tell your wife what you're really spending on Mets' stuff!" soupcan Nov 01 2008 11:49 AM ="Valadius":3pluypt1]Do they HAVE to have debris strewn around that wonderful field?[/quote:3pluypt1] I think that's kinda unavoidable when you're tearing a structure down. What are they supposed to do - follow the bulldozers around with a broom and dustpan? metsmarathon Nov 01 2008 02:40 PM that's just silly. what they should do is gingerly remove each and every peice the way it was originally put in, and delicately hand carry it out of the stadium grounds, stepping only on the red carpet laid across the field, and place each dutifully salvaged quantum of the stadium into its own velvet lined receptacle wherein it will remain interred through the end of time. soupcan Nov 03 2008 07:55 AM Dunkin' Donuts Down! Benjamin Grimm Nov 03 2008 07:57 AM I expected it would be surrounded by a large puddle of spilled coffee. soupcan Nov 03 2008 07:57 AM Link There are more pictures on the site. ] November 1, 2008 Bulk of Shea Stadium awaits sale in Bridgewater company's warehouse By MICHAEL DEAK Staff Writer From the outside it looks like an unremarkable warehouse, not like the pyramids in Egypt that were built as mausoleums for the pharaohs. But inside that squat warehouse are treasures that, for New York Mets fans, are as valuable as anything that has ever been found inside the pyramids. It is the Bridgewater warehouse of the MeiGray Group, which has the task of selling all the contents of Shea Stadium, except for the seats. Warren resident Barry Meisel, a former sportswriter for the New York Daily News who is the president and chief operating officer of the MeiGray Group, doesn't want the exact location of the warehouse disclosed for security reasons because it houses thousands of items saved from Shea Stadium before the stadium's slow demolition started earlier this month. Everything is for sale, except for two items that Meisel bought for himself � a picture of the celebration after the Mets clinched the World Series in 1969, and the portion of the center field wall that bears the 410-foot marker. "I always wanted that," he said. Memorabilia Meisel estimated that the warehouse contains from 5,000 to 7,000 items from Shea Stadium. Some of the items are relatively minor, such as the hundreds of nameplates that were placed on the back of seats occupied by season ticket holders. There are numerous boxes of photographs taken from the walls of corridors, executive offices, suites and inside the stadium. The pictures are blown-up images of legendary Mets and the unforgettable moments from the team's 46-year history. In the middle of the warehouse is a nondescript pile of wood found at any demolition site. But, Meisel said, it is a special pile of wood � boards from benches in both the home and visiting team dugouts. The boards were never replaced in the dugouts but have been painted many times, he said. Also in the middle of the warehouse are the 150-foot foul poles that have been broken into 25-foot sections. There are rows of lockers from both the Mets and visitors' locker rooms, as well as cubicles from where players hung their clothes and kept their valuables during games. Throughout the warehouse are piles of outfield wall sections including the retired numbers of players and managers. Flags that flew at the top of the stadium have also found a home in the warehouse. There also are hundreds of signs from throughout the stadium � signs that hung on restroom doors and signs that directed fans to the subway station. A sign of team mascot Mr. Met saying smoking is prohibited in the stadium has already been sold for $100, Meisel said. And there are hundreds of curiosities: an orange water cooler with the Mets logo and a plaque from Seton Hall University honoring Frank Cashen, who was the Mets general manager in the 1980s and considered to be the architect of the team that won the 1986 World Series. There is even a lime marker that came from the Polo Grounds, the original home of the Mets, that was still used by the grounds crew at Shea. Toward the front of the warehouse is a cluster of fan assistance, concession and program booths that Meisel said would look great in any Met fan's backyard. One of the most intriguing items is the concrete marker that was placed in the left field upper deck where centerfielder Tommie Agee hit the longest home run in Shea Stadium's history, on April 10, 1969. Some of the most popular items salvaged from the stadium are not in the warehouse because they've already been sold. All of the stadium's 31 turnstiles have been sold. It was a daunting job, but all of the items were recovered from Shea Stadium after the last game of the season. Swing bidder Many of the items from Shea will be auctioned on the MeiGray's group's Web site. The first auction ended Friday, Oct. 31, but Meisel said there will be future monthly auctions. He estimates it will take a year to sell everything from the stadium. Proceeds from the sale will be divided among New York City, which owns the stadium, and the Mets Foundation, said Jay Horowitz, vice president of media relations for the Mets. The Mets Foundation funds and promotes a variety of charitable causes, including educational, social and athletic programs for young people. What people are willing to pay for some of the items has Meisel scratching his head. For example, the wrought-iron "tree surrounds" with the Mets logo that protected the trees in the parking lot are receiving bids of more than $1,000. Menu board signs from concession stands are fetching bids around $1,000. A section of the outfield wall goes for close to $900. Bids on ketchup and mustard holders with the Mets logo are more than $500. Even a neon Bud Light sign has a bid of $515. As a literal sign of better times, an outfield wall panel with an AIG advertisement had a bid of $1,420. "This (sale) only happens once every 45 years," Meisel said. A Jersey boy Meisel and his partner Bob Gray started the MeiGray Group in the 1990s. After 19 years as a sportswriter for the Daily News covering professional hockey and the New York Giants, Meisel said he became tired of traveling. Meisel's decision to channel his interest in sports into a new career came at an opportune time. With the economy growing steadily, the market for collectible sports memorabilia began to boom in the late 1990s. He developed the idea of selling authenticated jerseys that were worn by professional hockey players. He wrote a business plan and approached one of the teams that he used to cover, the New York Rangers, and in August 1997 signed an exclusive deal to sell the team's previously worn jerseys. The Rangers deal led to agreements with the New Jersey Devils. Next, the MeiGray group inked deals with NBA teams. An NHL or NBA player goes through about six jerseys during a season, three in the home uniform and three in the away uniforms, he said. Last week, as Meisel was sitting in the warehouse, he showed a jersey that had been worn the previous night by Elton Brand, an NBA veteran free agent, who had made his debut as a Philadelphia 76er on the night of Wednesday, Oct. 29. "It smells," Meisel said. "It's sweaty." But it's also valuable to collectors and fans of Brand. That's why representatives, working with the teams' equipment managers, of the MeiGray Group often go into locker rooms immediately after games to get the jerseys. The key to the business, headquartered in Branchburg, is the authentication process that guarantees buyers they are getting genuine items. The jersey comes with a letter of authentication with the team's letterhead, Meisel said. The MeiGray Group has seven full-time employees who are responsible for acquiring the items, cataloging and pricing them, selling them and then shipping them to the buyers. "We have a great staff," Meisel said, adding that he hires collectors to help him put values on the items. The company's growing reputation was one of the reasons why the MeiGray Group got the contract with the Mets to sell the memorabilia from Shea Stadium, which is owned by the City of New York. Meisel is no longer spending hours away from home traveling for his job, but said he works from 60 to 70 hours a week. "I'm happy," he said. "This is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity." John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 03 2008 07:58 AM ="soupcan"]Dunkin' Donuts Down! Finally some destruction I can support. It be cool if we cracked that open and Rachel Ray would come out naked. Edgy DC Nov 03 2008 08:01 AM it would be kind of cool to give the Agee marker to the Agee family. Ditto the Seaver/Stengel/Hodges numbers. Farmer Ted Nov 03 2008 08:42 AM The DD sign was an eyesore. Those stupid police lights and the K sign were bad ideas drawn up by some idiot in a board room. Edgy DC Nov 03 2008 08:47 AM Doesn't this look like they composed a Met jersey and photoshopped it onto a Yankee picture of Wille? metirish Nov 03 2008 08:48 AM ] Finally some destruction I can support. It be cool if we cracked that open and Rachel Ray would come out naked. Saw her recently and couldn't believe how heavy she has gotten. Benjamin Grimm Nov 03 2008 08:55 AM Rachael Ray is an example of how someone can be both cute AND unappealing at the same time. Edgy DC Nov 03 2008 08:58 AM Can we just not talk about happy homemakers from TV ever? Benjamin Grimm Nov 03 2008 09:04 AM metsguyinmichigan Nov 03 2008 09:53 AM ="Benjamin Grimm":2zdqcdh1]Rachael Ray is an example of how someone can be both cute AND unappealing at the same time.[/quote:2zdqcdh1] Well, if you go back to the early shows on Food Network, she was always a little chunky, part of her girl next door appeal. She certainly had a makeover when the show went big, and this year appeared to have some, um, surgical enhancements, in the chest area, unless they did some severe Photoshop work for the magazine covers. My crush on Rachael is well-known, and somewhat tolerated by my wife. Benjamin Grimm Nov 03 2008 11:14 AM It's not her weight that makes her unappealing, it's the noises that come out of her mouth. G-Fafif Nov 03 2008 11:42 AM ="Edgy DC":2j9ucmx8]Doesn't this look like they composed a Met jersey and photoshopped it onto a Yankee picture of Wille? [/quote:2j9ucmx8] This would explain why the Mets in recent years seemed so flat. metsguyinmichigan Nov 03 2008 12:10 PM ="Benjamin Grimm":1wzmvwjl]It's not her weight that makes her unappealing, it's the noises that come out of her mouth.[/quote:1wzmvwjl] She talks? Benjamin Grimm Nov 03 2008 12:17 PM She tries. themetfairy Nov 03 2008 01:02 PM She squawks. seawolf17 Nov 03 2008 02:46 PM ="soupcan":1mxbmvn9]A sign of team mascot Mr. Met saying smoking is prohibited in the stadium has already been sold for $100, Meisel said.[/quote:1mxbmvn9] FUCKIN' HELL. That's all I wanted from the stadium. I just left a message with someone at MeiGray. soupcan Nov 07 2008 07:18 AM Found these at baseball-fever.com First game ever at Shea... Last game ever at Shea... Benjamin Grimm Nov 07 2008 07:37 AM It was prettier when it opened than when it closed. Edgy DC Nov 07 2008 08:39 AM The pitch could have been in better condition. G-Fafif Nov 07 2008 09:00 AM A ballpark that looked better with a parking lot in the background will now itself be a parking lot. The irony is as thick as the outfield grass was thin. Benjamin Grimm Nov 07 2008 09:12 AM Looking at the two photos together really shows how much garishness was added to Shea over the years. I'm sure Citi Field with start out with a lot of that clutter already in place. I can only imagine what it will look like 40 years from now. (And I hope I live to find out! At this point, another 40 years is about as much as I care to get.) John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 07 2008 09:33 AM ="Edgy DC":2749cxyp]The pitch could have been in better condition.[/quote:2749cxyp] Shea was barely complete when it opened. They worked till the very last minute. They said it was very soft and muddy in the outfield. metirish Nov 07 2008 09:40 AM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":1qbr6llo] ="Edgy DC":1qbr6llo]The pitch could have been in better condition.[/quote:1qbr6llo] Shea was barely complete when it opened. They worked till the very last minute. They said it was very soft and muddy in the outfield.[/quote:1qbr6llo] Was there even a fence at the back behind CF separating it form the parking lot , it's hard to tell. soupcan Nov 07 2008 09:43 AM And half of the parking lot isn't even paved yet. Willets Point Nov 07 2008 09:46 AM All the cars are the same size though. soupcan Nov 11 2008 08:03 AM First base Field level is gone, Third base nearly so. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 08:14 AM One advantage to implosions (yes, I realize that wasn't possible in this case) is that they're quick. This is like a band-aid being slowly and painfully peeled off. seawolf17 Nov 11 2008 11:29 AM ="themetfairy":2tehg78d]One advantage to implosions (yes, I realize that wasn't possible in this case) is that they're quick. This is like a band-aid being slowly and painfully peeled off.[/quote:2tehg78d] No kidding. I should stop opening this thread. G-Fafif Nov 11 2008 12:26 PM That sure was some tadium. Zvon Nov 11 2008 12:57 PM ="themetfairy":3vpl9tnq]One advantage to implosions (yes, I realize that wasn't possible in this case) is that they're quick. This is like a band-aid being slowly and painfully peeled off.[/quote:3vpl9tnq] I couldn't have said it better. I have to say I am a bit surprised how the destruction of Shea is effecting me. It has to be this slow torturous way I'm viewing it bit by bit. ="seawolf17":3vpl9tnq]No kidding. I should stop opening this thread.[/quote:3vpl9tnq] I'm with you seawolf17. Edgy DC Nov 11 2008 01:12 PM We let this happen. More than a few advocated it's happening. It's no time to turn away now. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 01:22 PM I'll own up to wanting the new stadium. I'm not denying that. But I've seen this transition done in several other cities during the past few years, and to a team they've all handled it better than the Mets have. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 01:34 PM I'm enjoying the pictures and saving everyone one of them. Keep 'em coming, I stopped licking my wound about ten days ago. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 01:35 PM tmf: they've all handled it better than the Mets have <<< How so? soupcan Nov 11 2008 01:39 PM I'll miss the old girl too but c'mon. Think of what it will be like having wide walkways! Benjamin Grimm Nov 11 2008 01:42 PM Wide walkways and legroom are nothing to sneeze at. I'd feel differently if I still lived in New York. But as rarely as I get to Shea Queens to see the Mets play anymore, I don't think Citi Field will ever feel like home to me. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 01:44 PM I remember the Phillies homage to the Vet in 2003 - a stadium that was younger than Shea and didn't have nearly the history Shea did. IIRC they were the first to take down a number before each game, but they made sure that every number was taken down by someone with a meaningful connection to the team or the stadium (not a Lincoln Mercury dealer in the lot). Their post-game ceremony after their final game was very moving (I'll find the link to it shortly), without the idiotic delay that Mets fans had to endure after Shea's final game. They had books ghost written by the Phillies Phanatic helping prepare younger fans for the move. From top to bottom it just seemed like a much better thought out operation. Edgy DC Nov 11 2008 01:49 PM That has little to do with photos of the de-construction. Is a delay before a ceremony such a big deal? themetfairy Nov 11 2008 01:52 PM The delay before the ceremony was just endemic of the half-assed job the Mets did in properly celebrating Shea's final season. They had an opportunity to do the old girl real justice, and they dropped the ball every chance they could. I couldn't find that footage of the final game ceremony at the Vet on the Phillies' site (and I feel very dirty trolling around there - ick!). But it had much more of a well-planned feel to it. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 01:56 PM How did we get from handling the transition in a day by day demolition thread which you said other teams did better to closing ceremonies and silly number countdowns? themetfairy Nov 11 2008 02:06 PM ="KC"]How did we get from handling the transition in a day by day demolition thread which you said other teams did better to closing ceremonies and silly number countdowns? I mentioned the transition in general. You asked for details. I think that if the Mets did a better job in paying homage to Shea this past season that people wouldn't be as upset about its destruction as they are. Agree or disagree with that premise - it's merely a theory. Edgy DC Nov 11 2008 02:08 PM I wouldn't feel dirty seeking for it if you liked it. If you like it, you like it. It's all MLB's website anyhow. I'm just not ready to kick the Mets because they don't demolish the stadium in a manner comparable to the White Sox or the Rangers. Or such having anything to do with why folks say they won't open this thread. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 02:12 PM You seem to be switching gears, going from "we let this happen/some advocated for it" to "I'm not ready to kick the Mets." You cool with this or not? Kong76 Nov 11 2008 02:15 PM tmf: I mentioned the transition in general. You asked for details <<< How did all the others "to a team" handle the dismantling of their old stadium better than the Mets? Edgy DC Nov 11 2008 02:21 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Nov 11 2008 02:27 PM You're excerpting phrases out of sentences there. It's clear to anybody that I didn't support a new stadium. How it's demolished is a moot point and I don't see how it can be done better, or indeed has been done better by everyone else. Frayed Knot Nov 11 2008 02:25 PM Maybe they can demolish the stadium by bringing each piece out on a velvet pillow laid out on a sled pulled by a puppy dog. I'm sure we'd all feel better then. This wound-licking is getting too much. I want video of the destruction and i hope it's bloody. Benjamin Grimm Nov 11 2008 02:29 PM I don't think the Mets did such a bad job with the last year of Shea. Yeah, there were too many Lincoln-Mercury dealers pulling down the numbers. But I think the closing ceremony was nicely done. Very nicely done. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 02:36 PM The physical demolition of Shea has to be done in this manner because implosion is not possible. My point is that I don't think that people would be reacting to the demolition process as painfully as they are if the Mets had done a better job of honoring Shea properly in its final season. Benjamin Grimm Nov 11 2008 02:38 PM Speaking only for myself, I just find it a little bit sad. No pain though. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 02:39 PM I know people who are in real pain over this. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 02:44 PM There's no way I could cull what fairy's point was from what she typed, I don't read posters minds, we were talking about the demolition pics. Problem with getting too wrapped up in the Mets will never be the same with- out good ol' Shea is before you know it's twenty years from now and you're writing letters to the paper like Bob L about how greener the grass was there and popcorn fresher. The bathroom floors were even drier and less sticky 20 years from now too I bet and those wonderful sight lines ... themetfairy Nov 11 2008 02:50 PM If that's the case, then I weep for the yet-to-be-finished Citi Field. Frayed Knot Nov 11 2008 02:54 PM I think we're starting to sound like the wound-lickers we used to make fun of; - oh no, this stadium is being destroyed worse than any other stadium in the history of destroyed stadiums - only the Mets could paint their foul lines crooked - why did Shea have to die so young? Kong76 Nov 11 2008 02:57 PM tmf: I know people who are in real pain over this <<< Send 'em here! Edgy DC Nov 11 2008 03:00 PM ="Frayed Knot":3qcqh3up]I think we're starting to sound like the wound-lickers we used to make fun of; - oh no, this stadium is being destroyed worse than any other stadium in the history of destroyed stadiums - only the Mets could paint their foul lines crooked - why did Shea have to die so young?[/quote:3qcqh3up] Wait a minute, that second one wuz you. Edgy DC Nov 11 2008 03:00 PM ="KC"]tmf: I know people who are in real pain over this <<< Send 'em here! I think they're minors. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 03:02 PM Actually, Iubital's post yesterday ("it doesn't surprise me") started me on this build up of let's stop the wound licking that was bound to come out. I think. I ain't going back to look. (OE: meaning the foul line not lining up) themetfairy Nov 11 2008 03:18 PM ="Edgy DC"] ="KC"]tmf: I know people who are in real pain over this <<< Send 'em here! I think they're minors. No - the minors I know aren't as connected to Shea as most of the adults I know. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 03:24 PM How do they feel about the demolition? Do the also feel that it's being handled "to a team" much worse by the Mets? Or are they just bitter about the closing ceremonies and number countdown too? Send 'em here. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 03:32 PM Who are you talking about? Kong76 Nov 11 2008 03:39 PM The people who are in real pain over this, McFly. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 03:45 PM I'll leave it to them to specifically reply to you or not. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 03:50 PM If they're here (and I suspected they were) then you should have left them out of your poor defense to begin with and let them speak for themselves. You wiggled off like four hooks in this thread. G-Fafif Nov 11 2008 04:06 PM There is beauty, pain and joy in baseball. When they gut and pry apart where you experienced most of it, a person is likely to reflect on all three and feel, upon viewing the kinds of pictures in question, one of those sensations in particular. The beauty and the joy may have been carried out safely before MeiGray could sell them, but it is not surprising that the pain should linger and overshadow for many if not all across the duration of the demolition. Later? Who knows? We haven't been there yet. I suspect the beauty and the pain and the joy will coalesce into the warmer memories the magic of distance allows. Reality says somebody's doing a job in taking down Shea Stadium. Reality says the plan has been on the table long enough for everybody to adjust to the plan. But baseball and reality were never intended to mesh so easily. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 04:17 PM Eloquent as ever, and on topic. Bravo! themetfairy Nov 11 2008 04:29 PM ="KC":cumx5g68]If they're here (and I suspected they were) then you should have left them out of your poor defense to begin with and let them speak for themselves. You wiggled off like four hooks in this thread.[/quote:cumx5g68] Don't ask direct questions if you're not going to like the answers. What was I supposed to do? Ignore you? G-Fafif Nov 11 2008 04:32 PM ="KC":3vuetxpl]Eloquent as ever, and on topic. Bravo![/quote:3vuetxpl] Thanks much, but just throwing the last pitch of what TMF stated quite reasonably, I think...Benitez to the Fairy's Leiter, as it were. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 04:33 PM Thanks G. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 04:35 PM I disagree, I think she said something and then changed it to something else and then played on then something else. I have to stop, I'm gonna start getting PM's about causing waves in the bath tub. Frayed Knot Nov 11 2008 04:38 PM ="Edgy DC"] ="Frayed Knot"]I think we're starting to sound like the wound-lickers we used to make fun of; - oh no, this stadium is being destroyed worse than any other stadium in the history of destroyed stadiums - only the Mets could paint their foul lines crooked - why did Shea have to die so young? Wait a minute, that second one wuz you. Yes, but I was just noting the fact that they looked off via the angle in that aerial shot. What followed was a reply which stated that only the Mets could do something like that as if the new stadium really will have foul poles 150' from home plate on account of this organization being so incompetant that the thought of seeing where the lines actually lead hasn't yet occured to anyone during this whole multi-million dollar operation. I'd bring up the one post wondering if they really had to ruin the grass with all that machinery during the deconstruction but I don't think that one was totally serious (although I waver at times). G-Fafif Nov 11 2008 04:39 PM I find it way more upsetting that I posted my way up from Richie Hebner only to morph into Jerry DiPoto. Who ranks these things? Oh right. Us. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 04:46 PM ="KC":6z6ktyl3]I disagree, I think she said something and then changed it to something else and then played on then something else. I have to stop, I'm gonna start getting PM's about causing waves in the bath tub.[/quote:6z6ktyl3] I did nothing of the kind. I answered a question that you asked me. You chose not to like the answer. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 05:05 PM I ain't outlining it for you, and don't be so fucking snippy. You're not always right. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 05:07 PM I'm just playing defense here. I'm not the one accusing people of changing things around. Nor have I done or said anything that merits you swearing at me. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 05:16 PM I'm sorry, but you're just freakin' maddening sometimes. Poorly handled transition does not equal demolition. Go wiggle yourself. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 05:24 PM I never said it equaled demolition. I was talking about people's reactions to the demolition. And nothing I said justifies the kind of reaction you're having. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 05:33 PM No, your first response was about the closing ceremonies and the count down .... have you been drinking with cooby? I'm comfortable with my reaction for purposes of this thread and I apologize for cursing and that's all I have to say on the matter. C'mon, "go wiggle yourself" was pretty funny. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 05:43 PM No, I have not been drinking. This is what you consider an apology? I made a comment about the transition being handled poorly. You asked me to extrapolate. I did, and you reacted in a pretty hostile manner. If you don't like my opinion that's your prerogative. But you needn't go off like that just because you disagree with it. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 05:50 PM I apologized for cursing, that's it. Your reading comprehension skills are taking a beating in this thread. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 05:54 PM No. I'm simply taking a beating for not seeing an issue exactly the way that you do. Kong76 Nov 12 2008 04:20 AM A beating? If I was gonna get nasty I'd dig up a picture of you in a Phillies uniform and really stick it to you. I'm ultimately taking the beating when we argue because the bath house mentality of this board will almost always side with you. Mean ol' KC. *sigh* HahnSolo Nov 12 2008 06:42 AM Hi, I'm here for the "intelligent, lively and provocative discussion of the Mets, Ed Kranepool, and on a good day, the Ramones." Am I in the right place? Kong76 Nov 12 2008 06:58 AM seawolf17 Nov 12 2008 07:17 AM ="HahnSolo":3u9spspm]Hi, I'm here for the "intelligent, lively and provocative discussion of the Mets, Ed Kranepool, and on a good day, the Ramones." Am I in the right place?[/quote:3u9spspm] Eff that. I come here for the weekly KC/Scarlet fights. Edgy DC Nov 12 2008 07:35 AM I missed a GREAT NIGHT. Zvon Nov 12 2008 08:48 PM whats all this then....? Pages of posts but nary an image. Addressing the issue of pain... Some of us do feel pain in regard to Shea's demise. It's not even that bad. Its a pang....a feeling of remorse. It hurts on a level that's hard to express, and its a passing phase. Eventually this will be a thing of the past. Not yet though, seeing it being ripped down bit by bit, here and at other places as well. I have been going around and collecting pictures of Shea myself. Anything I come across. Early days,recent times,....even the demolition. So I bop in here and I see there have been additions to the Shea Photo thread, and I'm like, "Oh kool! Maybe its one I haven't seen. Hope its the older Shea...but any nice pic of Shea would be sweet to see..." I hope to see pictures of Shea in way of a recollection, an homage. That's just me though. Maybe there should be a seperate thread for Shea's demolition, ...I dunno. But it's really not a big deal. As you can see I'll still check out this thread, hoping for kool pics of Shea Stadium when it was in use. I've come across some really great Shea photos online recently, especially at Baseball Fever. Like this one. I am 95% positive that thats me running onto the field after game 5 of the '73 NLCS. Edgy DC Nov 12 2008 09:05 PM Classy look. Apparently, nobody was allowed in that day --- by law --- except 21-year-old white males with shoulder-length hair, workshirts, and bellbottoms. Zvon Nov 12 2008 09:15 PM ="Edgy DC":3fjgok91]Classy look. Apparently, nobody was allowed in that day --- by law --- except 21-year-old white males with shoulder-length hair, workshirts, and bellbottoms.[/quote:3fjgok91] Not so. I was 15. Kong76 Nov 13 2008 04:34 AM EDC: Classy look. Apparently, nobody was allowed in that day --- by law --- except 21-year-old white males with shoulder-length hair, workshirts, and bellbottoms ------------- I never noticed, but you're right. It looks like they just opened a gate for field level gen adm for a Deep Purple concert or something and all the guys are scrambling to get a good spot. Cool picture to be in. G-Fafif Nov 13 2008 05:42 AM It's fascinating, from a cultural perspective, to contrast the crowds storming the field images from '69 and '73. The tumult of the '60s may have waned away from the ballpark, but its remnants seem to have become codified in places that were largely shielded from change while change was at its most intense: like the ballpark. (Which is probably what pissed Dick Young off so.) It's often been said there was more of an edge to the '73 rushing of the field than '69's, for what that's worth. I don't remember the Orioles complaining they were frightened for their well-being the way the Reds did. That YouTube clip that MLB pulled earlier this year, the pregame show from Game Four of the '73 World Series, showed (to me anyway) what a different world we were living in versus four years earlier, not just in style but substance. If you recall, Kubek, Seaver and Hunter were all taking Charlie Finley to task for his handling of the Mike Andrews situation. Questioning authority, kind of a radical concept in establishment circles in 1969, was part of the polyester fabric of the game by 1973. Probably not a coincidence this was the same year as the Senate's Watergate hearings nor that within two weeks there would be such a backlash to the Saturday Night Massacre. soupcan Nov 14 2008 09:54 AM Latest shots from wcbs880 chopper... Field level is completely gone now. Here's some interesting stuff that I got from baseball fever. Shea Demolition Plans: Edgy DC Nov 14 2008 09:58 AM What's a "NON-BEARTING STRUCTURE"? Benjamin Grimm Nov 14 2008 10:00 AM Before anyone else beats me to it, let me just get this out of the way: It figures! The stupid Mets can't even get the spelling right! Willets Point Nov 14 2008 10:04 AM Question for Zvon. Is your shirt open showing your Siegfried & Roy hairless chest or were you wearing a fleshtone t-shirt? Zvon Nov 14 2008 01:26 PM ="Willets Point"]Question for Zvon. Is your shirt open showing your Siegfried & Roy hairless chest or were you wearing a fleshtone t-shirt? lol. I never went around displaying my slinky chest so I'm sure that's a T-shirt. Doubt it was fleshtone, probly orange. Thing is I'm not positive that's me. First time I saw the pic I looked right past that guy searching for me. Eventually I got back to him and thought that must be me. I have no recollection of what I wore that day. I do know I was a skinny guy with long hair who always wore white sneaks. If I had on a flannel shirt, which I wore often enough, it be rolled up at the sleeves. And the path I took puts me right about where that guy is. After that I ran to the edge of the home plate grass, stopped... saw that girl on the mound (looks like she's going for the rubber <[joke setup<]).. our eyes met...I ran to her on the mound and we did a Koosman/Grote type jump and hug. Twirled in a circle, split and ran in different directions. I never saw her again but I'll never forget that moment. Benjamin Grimm Nov 14 2008 01:27 PM I had no idea that Marlo Thomas was there that day! metirish Nov 14 2008 01:34 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Nov 14 2008 01:34 PM WOW , what a great picture , guy in the yellow shirt at second stands out and I count three suits that might be security , one to the right of yellow shirt and one to the left of Buddy and one n front of him. Edgy DC Nov 14 2008 01:34 PM That's a great story. How about Barry Gibb chicken dancing to your right? Zvon Nov 14 2008 01:37 PM ="Edgy DC":38ctzctd]That's a great story. How about Barry Gibb chicken dancing to your right?[/quote:38ctzctd] No hug for him. Zvon Nov 14 2008 02:31 PM The thing about storming (and that's a very apt description) of the field in '73, and why it did get out of control, was that every kid wanted to be part of that moment, to be part of the celebration like in '69. And as the game went on we all had the same idea : to get down to field level so it was possible. We did the same thing during game four. I ended up on the 1st base side then. Rose hit that extra inning homer and the celebration was over. I was right on the rail behind the added box on the 3rd base side late in game 5. The Reds families were sitting in them. Eventually the game was stopped and they were led out to the Reds bullpen for their safety. And it's not that we were bothering them personally in any way, shape or form (fans did taunt them when they were being led away though, lol). Its just that there was a sea of people behind them that became like one big giant swaying creature. We could not move independently, could hardly even breath. And you know what I did then? I jumped the rail into the make shift box. Like the Reds families I was a bit concerned for my safety. Unfortunately everyone along the rail ended up jumping into the box like lemmings. Again we became crammed. I saw the fans on the 1st base side did the same thing, but they were so packed in that the little wooden wall that enclosed the section collapsed, and they spilled out onto the field. The game had to be halted again. Tug was on the mound at this point. He was pissed off. I remember him approaching the pile of people waving his arms over and over in an upward motion as if to say EVERYONE! BACK UP AND INTO THE STANDS! It was pretty crazy. I got so sandwiched in the corner of the box that I felt that we were gonna burst out on this side too. I jumped out and went down into the Reds dugout. I was able to hide in plain sight there for quite a few minutes, sitting on a stool in the far corner of the dugout. Eventually a cop came up to me and asked what I was doing there. I told him...I was trying to stay alive, lol. He told me I had to stay alive back up in the stands. This was when I was shown on TV, when the cop was talking to me. (my parents and brothers got to see that from home. My bros thought it was the koolest thing, my folks were like wtf were you doing?). I've told this story before here (I have also mentioned looking for the footage of me on TV and it is nowhere to be found.) but I don't think I ever stressed the point that what happened occurred because too many kids had this dream of being in a '69 like celebration highlight reel. And what actually happened was we so embarrassed the team, the game, the city, that that footage will forever be locked away and forgotten. One of my best Shea memories though. A Boy Named Seo Nov 14 2008 02:40 PM I re-read that part about you being in the Reds dugout a couple times thinking I misread or misunderstood you. That's the craziest thing I've ever heard. Wild story, man. Thanks for sharing. dgwphotography Nov 15 2008 12:28 PM I think I'm one of the one's in real pain over this that TMF is referring to. The thing is not once has the countdown, the ceremonies, or anything that the Mets did or didn't do play a role in it. It is simply the fact that a place that has been a desired destination for me for over 35 years is no longer there. Shea is a place that I dreamed about visiting since my aunt gave me my first yearbook in 1972. It's the knowledge that I will never feel the attachment to the new place that I do to the old place. It's the fact that it was a home away from home of sorts - a place where I knew ever nook and cranny, where I knew where to get the best knishes, or the best dogs. A place that is home to so many memories. Whatever the Mets did or didn't do to mark this occasion plays no role in how I feel about it. Benjamin Grimm Nov 15 2008 01:43 PM I agree with that, except for the part about feeling real pain. I feel a touch of sadness, and a sense of loss, but I wouldn't call it pain. Kong76 Nov 15 2008 04:31 PM I'd like to get a copy of that CAD file with the non bearting typo. Hell, they show part of the guy's name and addy and it was easily discovered who and where he is. Maybe he's got a sense of humor and would leak one to us. Edgy DC Nov 15 2008 07:56 PM Scarsdale. Vic can take a short drive and knock on his door. cooby Nov 16 2008 08:19 PM Zvon, great picture, great stories! cooby Nov 16 2008 08:20 PM And what does "Non Bearting" mean? soupcan Nov 18 2008 11:01 AM All of these from baseball-fever.com Edgy DC Nov 18 2008 11:11 AM What? The auction house couldn't generate any action on the spongetech.com sign? Farmer Ted Nov 18 2008 11:17 AM Soup's top photo shows the location of our old seats. Crushing. Willets Point Nov 18 2008 11:25 AM ="Edgy DC":133d3wiq]What? The auction house couldn't generate any action on the spongetech.com sign?[/quote:133d3wiq] Maybe Bubba Sponge? Farmer Ted Nov 18 2008 11:31 AM Missed the Spongetech sign. Very sponge worthy. soupcan Nov 20 2008 10:01 AM More pictures available at nycsubway.org 9/1963 5/10/1964 8/1/1979 8/1/1979 Tiles removed between 1979 and 1980. 8/16/1980 9/24/2008 holychicken Nov 24 2008 09:01 AM Might be a bit late for this coming in after all of the destruction pics . . . but this is one of my favorite pictures of shea. It is my gf's younger sister. John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 24 2008 09:47 AM ="holychicken"]Might be a bit late for this coming in after all of the destruction pics . . . but this is one of my favorite pictures of shea. It is my gf's younger sister. Is she like, legal? holychicken Nov 24 2008 09:56 AM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":22rs38rb]Is she like, legal?[/quote:22rs38rb] Oh, I see. You see a dark-skinned person and immediately think "illegal immigrant." You should be ashamed! ehehhe SteveJRogers Nov 24 2008 11:37 AM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket"] ="holychicken"]Might be a bit late for this coming in after all of the destruction pics . . . but this is one of my favorite pictures of shea. It is my gf's younger sister. Is she like, legal? Uh, 'Bucket, aren't you very much attached at the moment? Now Chicken, I ask you the same question! Benjamin Grimm Nov 24 2008 11:39 AM I find it a little odd to be lusting after someone when all you know is the shape of her nose. Edgy DC Nov 24 2008 11:44 AM And which pores are and aren't corrupted. holychicken Nov 24 2008 12:06 PM Exactly. I didn't even post a picture of her most desirable body part, her posterior. Dear god, tell me my gf doesn't read this forum or she will surely whup me. seawolf17 Nov 24 2008 12:08 PM ="holychicken":21z05y4i]Exactly. I didn't even post a picture of her most desirable body part, her posterior. Dear god, tell me my gf doesn't read this forum or she will surely whup me.[/quote:21z05y4i] It's okay, you can still post it. We don't mind. Edgy DC Nov 24 2008 12:25 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Nov 24 2008 12:42 PM Butts, schmutz. Steve's a snot man. seawolf17 Nov 24 2008 12:38 PM ="Edgy DC":1hrzmxox]Butts, schmutz. Steve's a snot man.[/quote:1hrzmxox] Must be a Yankee fan thing. SteveJRogers Nov 24 2008 01:14 PM ="holychicken":26x42lii]Exactly. I didn't even post a picture of her most desirable body part, her posterior. Dear god, tell me my gf doesn't read this forum or she will surely whup me.[/quote:26x42lii] Geez, I was just following Bucket's lead. I mean I need some Met Chick love more than he does! soupcan Dec 04 2008 08:12 AM All from baseball-fever John Cougar Lunchbucket Dec 04 2008 08:18 AM Mike Mulligan always said his Steam Shovel could take down one stadium as fast as 100 men could in a day, although he was never quite sure of that. Benjamin Grimm Dec 04 2008 08:26 AM So now they're chewing away at the Loge level? Are they going to get to a point where there's just an unattached Upper Level (or Upper Tank as Keith Hernandez would call it) floating high in the air? soupcan Dec 04 2008 08:28 AM Yeah that's weird isn't it? You'd think they'd go top to bottom rather than the other way around. I'd like to think that they are professional demolishers and know what they are doing rather than they might just be stupid. Edgy DC Dec 04 2008 09:21 AM I don't know. These two guys aren't winning any smart awards with me right now. << dgwphotography Dec 04 2008 10:58 AM ="soupcan"] Zvon - is it me, or does this look tone-mapped? It looks like it has that HDR glow to it... HahnSolo Dec 04 2008 11:21 AM ="Edgy DC":2sv0q5gv] I don't know. These two guys aren't winning any smart awards with me right now. << [/quote:2sv0q5gv] Those two guys are still waiting for their hot pretzel ordered at the last home game. G-Fafif Dec 04 2008 12:30 PM Talk about your stiff Breezes playing havoc with Shea's outfield. Valadius Dec 04 2008 02:00 PM Part of me is rooting to see the picture of them ripping down that Fox News sign. Edgy DC Dec 04 2008 02:14 PM You strike me as somewhat partisan. Am I right? soupcan Dec 04 2008 02:17 PM Who Vlad? Nah - he's as fair and balanced as they come. Kong76 Dec 04 2008 03:45 PM I sent those latest photos to a friend of mine. He wrote back that he thought they were building a new stadium and not just fixing up Shea and slappin' on a new coat of paint like in years gone by. Chucklehead. Zvon Dec 04 2008 04:57 PM ="Iubitul"] ="soupcan"] Zvon - is it me, or does this look tone-mapped? It looks like it has that HDR glow to it... Yes. Especially in comparison with the others. It does bring the shaded areas out. Zvon Dec 04 2008 05:02 PM I wish they would get this over with. How are they gonna take down the highest heights sans demolition? themetfairy Dec 04 2008 05:12 PM It may take a while. I remember Old Comiskey Park was in a state of partial demolition when we visited New Comiskey in August of 1991. Kong76 Dec 04 2008 05:22 PM Z: How are they gonna take down the highest heights sans demolition? <=== Cranes and stuff, and how is what they've been doing not demolition? Kong76 Dec 04 2008 05:52 PM tmf: It may take a while. <=== They don't really have much time if they plan to level the joint and make it a parking lot. My guess is they'll finish well before opening day. I don't want to get into union contracts twice tonight, but they make it worth it to finish on time so there's no lolligaggin' nowadays. Zvon Dec 05 2008 03:10 PM ="KC":21ab889l]Cranes and stuff, and how is what they've been doing not demolition?[/quote:21ab889l] Sorry. I meant the usage of explosive charges. Kong76 Dec 05 2008 03:42 PM I figured, I was just goofin'. soupcan Dec 09 2008 08:13 AM Upper deck wrecking ball. BAM! Benjamin Grimm Dec 09 2008 08:32 AM They should have painted the wrecking ball to look like a baseball. metirish Dec 09 2008 08:33 AM That would have been really taking the piss on those that see that as a sad event. Benjamin Grimm Dec 09 2008 08:37 AM It would be a nod to tradition. It's what they did with the Ebbets Field wrecking ball. The same ball was used a few years later on the Polo Grounds: Benjamin Grimm Dec 09 2008 08:50 AM Cincinnati's Crosley Field too! soupcan Dec 13 2008 02:19 PM Wow - now I'm even starting to have a hard time looking... baseball-fever.com Benjamin Grimm Dec 13 2008 02:36 PM Yikes. Edgy DC Dec 13 2008 02:55 PM GYAH! Kong76 Dec 13 2008 07:10 PM They didn't sell the panels depicting the leap and Seaver's head? Edgy DC Dec 13 2008 07:23 PM It looks like the terrorist hit we were praying wouldn't happen actually did. Kong76 Dec 13 2008 07:44 PM Fuck terrorists, an accidental plane crash on a foggy evening in the wrong flight path was what I thought mighta happened one day. *62 Dec 14 2008 12:56 PM The pictures may be gruesome but the Stadium has overstayed its welcome. I may miss living in Brooklyn desperately, but 3,000 sq. ft. is way better than 920. Edgy DC Dec 14 2008 05:11 PM I don't get the reference. *62 Dec 14 2008 05:39 PM I love Shea for lots of reasons, and will miss it some ..... but it's a dump. Better? Edgy DC Dec 14 2008 05:53 PM I thought those numbers referred to something. Rockin' Doc Dec 14 2008 06:57 PM I think *62 lives in Florida if my memory is correct. He apparently once lived in Brooklyn and apparently hung out at Shea quite a bit in the past. I think he was stating that he missed living in Brooklyn, but preferred the 3000 sq. ft. of living space he can now afford over the 920 sq. ft. of living space he had in Brooklyn. Living in the south and comparing costs for homes with my friends and relatives relatives that live near the city, I understand what he is referring too. Then again, maybe I miss interpreted the meaning of his post. Either way, it's nice to have *62 posting here again. I hope he hangs around. soupcan Dec 16 2008 01:42 PM StadiumPage.com Benjamin Grimm Dec 16 2008 02:04 PM It's amazing that just ten weeks ago it was still full of color and people and noise. soupcan Dec 18 2008 07:45 PM soupcan Dec 29 2008 07:51 AM soupcan Jan 05 2009 12:40 PM G-Fafif Jan 05 2009 12:52 PM Impressive Photoshopping, Soup. Quite interesting to see what Shea Stadium would look like if somebody went mad and started to tear it down. If it wouldn't be too much trouble, please put Shea back together again. Thank you. batmagadanleadoff Jan 05 2009 01:18 PM ="soupcan"]http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q308/soupcan11/shea5-1.jpg That neon batter just reminded me of Gary Carter' follow through, particularly the way Gary would take an inside pitch and line drive one-bounce it to the outfielder for a single. Are there any other Mets that the neon hitter resembles? Edgy DC Jan 05 2009 02:35 PM Looks kind of slender for Carter. It also looks like a guy going to right, while Carter more typically pulled. metirish Jan 13 2009 01:35 PM from 01/10/2009 metsguyinmichigan Jan 13 2009 02:35 PM They're not saving any of the neon players? I know they're huge. but heck, they could slice them up and sell them for $10 a foot to geeks like me! Zvon Jan 13 2009 02:58 PM ="metsguyinmichigan":8phckkps]They're not saving any of the neon players? I know they're huge. but heck, they could slice them up and sell them for $10 a foot to geeks like me![/quote:8phckkps] Why sell just their feet? John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 13 2009 04:19 PM wham G-Fafif Jan 13 2009 04:53 PM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":1virpusd]wham[/quote:1virpusd] "Wake Me Up Before You Go Go" vs. "Baby I'm Your Man" Whoops...wrong thread. metirish Jan 15 2009 08:00 AM Newsday today has a classic Shea pictures collection. Die-hard fans dance in the aisles at 1:50 a.m. during the 21st inning of a 25-inning marathon game between the Mets and the Cardinals at Shea Stadium. (AP Photo / September 12, 1974) A view of Shea Stadium during the national anthem before a New York Mets-Los Angeles Dodgers game in 1973. (AP Photo / June 9, 1973) Fans rush onto the field and players celebrate after the Mets defeated the Baltimore Orioles to win the 1969 World Series. (AP Photo / October 16, 1969 A view of Shea Stadium after after souvenir-hunting fans ripped up the sod following the Mets' victory in the 1969 World Series. (AP Photo / October 16, 1969) Pirates first baseman Willie Stargell waves to the crowd at Shea Stadium during Willie Stargell Night at Shea. The man at left wiping his eye is Nelson Doubleday, Mets chairman of the board. (Newsday / Paul J. Bereswill / September 27, 1982 The new owners of the Mets pose at Shea Stadium. From left: Stephen E. O'Neil, president of City Investing Company; Nelson Doubleday, president of Doubleday Co.; Fred Wilpon, Chairman of the Board of Sterling Equities and John O. Pickett, owner of the NHL New York Islanders, who was instrumental in setting up the sale of the team. Pickett was not listed as an owner of the club. (AP File Photo / January 25, 1980) Car fire involving several cars in the Shea Stadium parking lot during a game in 2002. (AP Photo / April 27, 2002) Workers Angelo DiMaria, left, and Dominico Bannezo clean off old paint and rust as they get Shea Stadium ready for Opening Day in 2001. (Newsdya / J. Conrad Williams Jr / March 28, 2001) > soupcan Jan 15 2009 08:09 AM Amazing how much Jeff looks like his dad used to. Even down to the bad hairdo. ="metirish"] Edgy DC Jan 15 2009 08:10 AM Car Fire Day: Best. Promotion. Ever. HahnSolo Jan 15 2009 08:36 AM I miss crazy old Uncle Nelson. soupcan Jan 15 2009 08:39 AM Pop Quiz - without looking it up, how much did Nelson & Jeff pay for the Mets in 1980. If I remember right, I think it was $20 million. Farmer Ted Jan 15 2009 08:45 AM I only recall $350 million or so to finally kick Doubleday to the curb in '02. Edgy DC Jan 15 2009 09:02 AM Who pitched on Car Fire Day? metirish Jan 15 2009 09:07 AM ="Edgy DC":kdd41i0v]Who pitched on Car Fire Day?[/quote:kdd41i0v] I remember that game , I should say I remember it from watching it on TV and the announcers talking about the fire in the parking lot and showing it. I'll guess that Steve Trachsel pitched . John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 15 2009 09:14 AM ="soupcan":sgwypaic]Pop Quiz - without looking it up, how much did Nelson & Jeff pay for the Mets in 1980. If I remember right, I think it was $20 million.[/quote:sgwypaic] For some reason $21 million is the number I remember but geez. Edgy DC Jan 15 2009 09:14 AM Pedro Pistacio took a no-hiiter into the seventh the day after a crisp one-hitter by Testes. It was game two of a three-game sweep over Milwaukee and, for a minute there, it looked like the 2002 Mets had scrapped together a winning rotation of Leiter-Estes-Astacio-D'Amico-Trachsel. That plan blew up in the parking lot like so many SUVs. Edgy DC Jan 15 2009 09:15 AM Is that logo stitched together? It acually looks like a giant shoulder patch. soupcan Jan 15 2009 09:16 AM D'Amico. I had high hopes for him. soupcan Jan 15 2009 09:17 AM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":esm8z809]For some reason $21 million is the number I remember but geez.[/quote:esm8z809] I think you're right. dgwphotography Jan 15 2009 11:19 AM ="batmagadanleadoff"] ="soupcan"] That neon batter just reminded me of Gary Carter' follow through, particularly the way Gary would take an inside pitch and line drive one-bounce it to the outfielder for a single. Are there any other Mets that the neon hitter resembles? flip it around, and it's Mex. attgig Jan 15 2009 12:16 PM ="metirish"] Fans rush onto the field and players celebrate after the Mets defeated the Baltimore Orioles to win the 1969 World Series. (AP Photo / October 16, 1969 > i wonder if that will ever be allowed in pro sports. when did that stop? it's only on college that you see fans rushing the field. why is that? Edgy DC Jan 15 2009 12:19 PM Because student athletes don't need/demand protection from the masses the way millionnaire atheletes do. Why is the cop screening home plate doing the time warp? metirish Jan 15 2009 12:23 PM How about the guy down the RF line jumping from the stands? Benjamin Grimm Jan 15 2009 12:23 PM I think it stopped in 1986, at least in New York. The fans rushed the field after the division clincher, but the mounted cops prevented it in the World Series. I think, though, that the Phillies had the cops on horseback for the 1980 World Series. John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 17 2009 12:20 PM I went out there this morning, photos on facebook. Here's a vid shot as the 7 train arrives in Willets Pt. metirish Jan 17 2009 01:59 PM Great pictures btw. soupcan Jan 18 2009 01:53 PM These are from baseballfever... Kong76 Jan 18 2009 02:08 PM Even dollar cost averaging down to ~ 7 1/2, that sums up my Citigroup stock feelings. I've been somewhat unaffected by most of the images, but this one is particularly eerie to me: Kong76 Jan 18 2009 02:10 PM I know the home opener is late this year, but are they really gonna have the ol' girl completely gone by then and a parking lot installed? I thought they'd be more far along. Benjamin Grimm Jan 18 2009 03:30 PM I'm not sure they have to. The existing parking lot served Shea for the last few years, and Shea held more fans than Citi will. Kong76 Jan 18 2009 03:37 PM I don't mean they have to, I just thought that was the plan. Since groundbreaking, parking there has been a pain in the neck and I took the train mostly to games. I like to tailgate, plan on doing it a lot this year, and it's easier to do with a car. John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 18 2009 04:26 PM ="Kong76":3gm6qt5k]I know the home opener is late this year, but are they really gonna have the ol' girl completely gone by then and a parking lot installed? I thought they'd be more far along.[/quote:3gm6qt5k] Official plan is the last bits of Shea are to be disappeared by June 30. Those photos put mine to shame! metirish Jan 23 2009 02:23 PM Vince Coleman Firecracker Jan 23 2009 02:43 PM An auto body shop in a Quonset hut. Fantastic. Willets Point Jan 23 2009 02:44 PM I've got dibs on "City * Field * Collision" as my band's name. Frayed Knot Jan 24 2009 11:28 AM The ends of the horseshoe are starting to disappear http://www.wfan.com/pages/3706726.php?imageGalleryXRefId=907755#imgXR http://www.wfan.com/pages/3706726.php?imageGalleryXRefId=907756#imgXR G-Fafif Jan 24 2009 11:53 AM It's a stump, but it's our stump. dgwphotography Jan 24 2009 01:07 PM soupcan Jan 26 2009 12:33 PM More at stadiumpage.com Frayed Knot Jan 26 2009 12:56 PM btw, Harvey Araton tees off the Yanx in a piece in Sunday's NYTimes. Specifically it's the sweet time they're taking in getting rid of the old park even though the new one is nearly finished and that the whole deal was based on trading stadium space for park land, park land that now seems destined for 2011 at the earliest. Their answer as to when they'll get around to even starting deconstruction is essentially "when we fuckin' get around to it - now go away and stop bothering us", even as they had no problem making a public spectacle about marching their offices across to the new digs the street last week. "Mayor Bloomberg, tear down this stadium" metirish Jan 26 2009 01:16 PM The arrogance of all involved is sickening , how I despise all things Yankees. SteveJRogers Jan 26 2009 02:14 PM Supposedly they are going to use YSII for a movie production, plus the plan was that either the Mets or Yankees would use YSII to play games if either Citi Field or YSIII weren't ready come April. So despite the arrogance, there really are valid reasons why it is still up. Frayed Knot Jan 26 2009 02:36 PM Even if using YSII was the on-paper 'just-in-case' backup plan in the event that some wild mishap went on with the construction of either of the new stadiums the virtually ZERO chance such a plan would ever be put into place has now shrunk to roughly that of the Lions being put into next week's Super Bowl were a case of bubonic plague to sweep through either the Steeler or Cardinal camp. And, as the article mentions, they've yet to even select a company that would do the deconstruction or set a date as to when it might start. So the reason it's not only still up but will be so for at least another year has everything to do with the fact that they haven't finished milking the old girl for every cent she's worth and if that means that the city that just re-re-issued more tax-free bonds as the price climbed over a billion dollars and the local kids in the neighborhood they claim to care so much for (whenever they weren't threatening to leave that is) go without a public park for the next few years well then that's none of their damn business. metirish Jan 28 2009 08:10 PM New York Times ] In Dead of Winter, Shea Stadium Is Melting Away By KEN BELSON Published: January 28, 2009 With each passing day, Shea Stadium, the home of the Mets since 1964, fades further from Citi Field, the team�s new home. In the last few weeks, demolition crews have been ripping down entire sections of Shea from both ends of the outfield decks toward its middle. What was once a semi-enclosed bowl with 57,000 seats is now a skeleton of a grandstand. In the first weeks after the Mets finished their final season at Shea (with another desultory loss that knocked them out of playoff contention), crews removed the seats, signs and anything else that could be sold to collectors or reused in city parks. Then demolition crews started knocking out the field level and the concrete decks that made up the loge and the mezzanine. But the structure of the stadium, built for nearly $30 million, was largely intact. Not so anymore. Since the beginning of the year, crews have clawed away at Shea�s walls and beams, exposing escalators, elevator banks and air ducts. The stands above Gates A and E have vanished and parts of the neon players that adorned the outside of the stadium are gone, too. Twelve sections of the upper deck still have their concrete floors, but the other sections that remain are outlined only by their steel beams. Unlike stadiums in other cities that have been imploded, Shea had to be taken down piece by piece because of building codes. The rat-a-tat-tat of the construction machinery drowned out the noise of the jets taking off from LaGuardia Airport. Tarps on chain link fences say �Almost Home,� a reference to the soon-to-be-opened Citi Field, but also the six-month process of erasing Shea. In all, nearly 10,000 tons of steel and another 2,500 tons of concrete will be pulled out of Shea. Some of the concrete will be ground up and reused as the base material for the parking lot that will be installed in its place. The lot will include space for 2,000 cars and signs marking where home plate and the pitcher�s mound once were. Team representatives said that the demolition will be completed some time in the coming weeks, which is not hard to imagine. On Wednesday, lines of dump trucks made their way onto what was once the outfield, weaving around piles of crumpled metal and concrete covered in snow. Several Web sites have sprung up that have chronicled the destruction of the place where Seaver once threw, Piazza once squatted and the Stork, George Theodore, once roamed. In a way, the sites are a testament to the morbid curiosity of Mets fans, who have endured many morbid Mets teams. �It�s interesting how they are doing it piece by piece,� said Eric Okurowski, a 31-year master�s candidate and a life-long Met fan from Babylon, N.Y., who runs stadiumpage.com. �Most old stadia are blown up and it takes just a few seconds. It�s pretty interesting seeing it come apart in pieces over the course of four months.� Okurowski and several other die-hard fans are organizing a final farewell at Shea at noon Saturday to share stories and take photographs of what is left of the ballpark. As Shea diminishes, Citi Field emerges. While less imposing than Shea, the new stadium, at least from the outside, has an elegance that Shea lacked. Instead of the lattice of concrete ramps that constituted Shea�s exterior, Citi Field is covered in brick and punctuated with arches and an entrance rotunda. Flood lights highlight the outside while klieg lights illuminate what is left of Shea. More Articles in Sports �A version of this article appeared in print on January 29, 2009, on page B18 of the New York edition. apmorris Jan 29 2009 04:58 PM ="metirish"]New York Times ] Okurowski and several other die-hard fans are organizing a final farewell at Shea at noon Saturday to share stories and take photographs of what is left of the ballpark. Anyone going? (bring a camera) metirish Jan 29 2009 05:28 PM People are going http://www.faithandfearinflushing.com/ G-Fafif Jan 30 2009 03:38 PM Damn, dirty apes... apmorris Jan 30 2009 04:43 PM ="G-Fafif"]Damn, dirty apes... Awesomenessness Kong76 Jan 30 2009 07:24 PM Classic pic. dgwphotography Jan 31 2009 05:41 AM that's just brilliant. Benjamin Grimm Jan 31 2009 05:44 AM That really is brilliant. metirish Jan 31 2009 05:47 AM Yeah it's very clever. themetfairy Jan 31 2009 06:19 AM It's just a model.... batmagadanleadoff Jan 31 2009 04:06 PM I'm guessing that the picture has something to do with the Statue Liberty finale in Planet of.... But that picture never came up on my browser. Not today. Not yesterday. Benjamin Grimm Jan 31 2009 04:14 PM Me neither. I had to right click, select "Copy Location" and paste the following in my browser: http://faithandfear.blogharbor.com/_photos/heston.jpg Edgy DC Feb 02 2009 07:05 AM You MANIACS! soupcan Feb 05 2009 07:11 AM From stadiumpage.com Just a matter of time now.... Benjamin Grimm Feb 05 2009 08:06 AM It's starting to look more like the grandstand you'd see at a race track. Frayed Knot Feb 05 2009 08:11 AM Never can say goodbye No no no no, I Never can say goodbye Even though the pain and heartache Seems to follow me wherever I go Though I try and try to hide my feelings They always seem to show Then you try to say you're leaving me And I always have to say no... Tell me why Is it so That I ... Never can say goodbye No no no no, I Never can say goodbye Evertime I think I had enough I start heading for the door There's a very strange vibration That pierces me right to the core It says turn around you fool You know you love her more and more Tell me why Is it so Don't wanna let yo go I never can say goodbye soupcan Feb 06 2009 10:55 AM These are from wcbs880.com. And there are a few more there as well. G-Fafif Feb 08 2009 03:10 PM Shea among the ruins... Kong76 Feb 08 2009 03:47 PM I called KB over and asked if she wanted to see an eerie picture on my laptop and she saw this and started bawling. "That's all that's left? When was that picture taken?" "Uh, I guess last time it snowed." ... (I'm obnoxious in real life too) and I told her this is like a 25 page thread of the destruction of Shea and we started talking about our Moms and games and tailgates and she got me all throaty too and crying and screw you all but ok I admit that it's hard to see the old thing disappear and I've been suppressing the sadness. There, I said it. dgwphotography Feb 09 2009 07:41 AM the first time we go there this year will be a shock. Edgy DC Feb 09 2009 07:50 AM We should go and have a tribute concert in the parking lot. G-Fafif Feb 09 2009 10:37 AM ="Kong76":1akaid2f]I called KB over and asked if she wanted to see an eerie picture on my laptop and she saw this and started bawling.[/quote:1akaid2f] My wife, who worked downtown throughout the fall of 2001, invoked Ground Zero in terms of what it reminded her of looking at. soupcan Feb 13 2009 10:09 AM Another from baseballfever.com metirish Feb 13 2009 10:27 AM Great pictures over there...taken this morning from the #7 train Benjamin Grimm Feb 13 2009 10:48 AM They should leave that last chunk in place. smg58 Feb 13 2009 12:34 PM I drove past it the other day. It's really sad to see it. soupcan Feb 14 2009 07:21 AM I'm at LaGuardia waiting for a flight. Drove past Citi and Shea. Shea looks so sad and insignificant. I'm excited and wistful at the same time. cooby Feb 14 2009 08:22 AM Please, check for ice and geese. Not joking. soupcan Feb 14 2009 08:38 AM We're flying Continental - what could go wrong? dgwphotography Feb 14 2009 09:44 AM ="metirish"] It's fitting that that's the last piece left... Frayed Knot Feb 14 2009 09:49 AM Think of it as an image of Koosman throwing the final pitch of the '69 WS. It could be Orosco/'86 too but it looks more like Koosman. dgwphotography Feb 14 2009 09:51 AM hmmmm.... I always saw Matlack in that image... dgwphotography Feb 14 2009 09:57 AM ="Iubitul"]hmmmm.... I always saw Matlack in that image... Actually, no. Bob Ojeda. SteveJRogers Feb 14 2009 11:49 AM ="Iubitul"] ="Iubitul"]hmmmm.... I always saw Matlack in that image... Actually, no. Bob Ojeda. What is that watermark on the other side of the card top? A Boy Named Seo Feb 14 2009 11:58 AM ="metirish"]Great pictures over there...taken this morning from the #7 train Nice pic, Irish. Poor, little Shea getting swallowed up by Citi on both sides. Kong76 Feb 15 2009 01:46 PM We took a ride out there today. We packed up a camera, a couple of Heineken keg cans (KB drove) and set out. I was kind of emotional getting ready but by the time we were in the car and on our way I was kinda excited. There were a bunch of people milling about doing the same thing we were and while I didn't talk to anyone we all smiled and nodded to each other like we got it. What we really should have done was cooked a few hot dogs one more time but the beer was enough I guess to count as a tailgate of sorts. The pictures posted all over the internet get redundant after awhile I suppose, but I got a few unique images. metirish Feb 15 2009 02:20 PM Great pictures , thanks. themetfairy Feb 15 2009 03:08 PM Nice shots Kase! LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Feb 15 2009 05:20 PM Thanks, sir. Beautiful and gut-wrenching. (All in all, this offseason's been like a months-long wake... except one where the guests take parts of the deceased with them as souvenirs.) A Boy Named Seo Feb 15 2009 05:30 PM Great shots, man. Love the one of you raising your can of Heiny in salutation. holychicken Feb 15 2009 05:49 PM Whoa, crazy, KC. I was there today too and took some very similar pictures. I was the jackass with my little brown dog off the leash. He was very happy to be out running about like that. Edgy DC Feb 15 2009 06:01 PM Should have a concert out there. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Feb 15 2009 06:05 PM Or an Irish wake? -Loading up on Jameson fifths/Cueing up "Body of an American" on the iPods. Kong76 Feb 15 2009 06:13 PM holyc: I was the jackass with my little brown dog off the leash <<< I didn't see any little brown pups running about. It's funny, but I really thought I'd run into at least one Mets' fan I knew out there. Running into you woulda been cool and we coulda done a Heiny. holychicken Feb 15 2009 07:42 PM Yeah, I figured there would be no one there but the when I saw the number of people there I figured I would see someone I knew. I checked everyone saw there, but didn't recognize anyone as well. I figured my dog would have stuck out tho more than me DocTee Feb 15 2009 08:27 PM Cool pics, thanks for sharing them. Did you pour some of that Heiny on the ground, ghetto style, to remember Shea, your fallen friend? Kong76 Feb 16 2009 01:11 PM Tee: Did you pour some of that Heiny on the ground <<< I have to confess that I did deposit some used Heiny behind some construction materials. Edgy DC Feb 16 2009 01:13 PM I'm going to guess you haven't puked at Shea since October 12, 1982. Kong76 Feb 16 2009 06:24 PM I had to google the date but I didn't yak that night. John Cougar Lunchbucket Feb 17 2009 09:25 AM Nice shotz guys. ah, screw it. Zvon Feb 17 2009 12:28 PM ="SteveJRogers"] ="Iubitul"] ="Iubitul"]hmmmm.... I always saw Matlack in that image... Actually, no. Bob Ojeda. What is that watermark on the other side of the card top? That's the Desert Storm logo/thing they added to sets of cards for the troops overseas back in the day. themetfairy Feb 17 2009 02:00 PM Zvon! How have you been? attgig Feb 17 2009 03:53 PM http://twitpic.com/photos/bluenautica one last piece remaining. Frayed Knot Feb 18 2009 11:14 AM Last piece down (video available via Newsday's main sports page) It's all over but the sweeping. soupcan Feb 24 2009 08:02 AM These I guess are almost a week old. From http://www.stadiumpage.com Edgy DC Feb 24 2009 08:14 AM To heck with your copyright, Gary. soupcan Feb 24 2009 08:32 AM 'Zactly. Zvon Feb 24 2009 02:38 PM ="Edgy DC":33njl1ow]To heck with your copyright, Gary.[/quote:33njl1ow] I'll photoshop that out. Shhhh. holychicken Feb 24 2009 03:59 PM ="Zvon":13ygrx4a] ="Edgy DC":13ygrx4a]To heck with your copyright, Gary.[/quote:13ygrx4a] I'll photoshop that out. Shhhh.[/quote:13ygrx4a] Simple crop job ought to do. Edgy DC Mar 16 2009 02:56 PM Mini-Shea ripped up from the ground. http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/03/16/you-too-can-own-a-piece-of-the-mini-city/ Farmer Ted Mar 16 2009 03:14 PM They couldn't save those two satellite dishes? Coulda saved me a few bucks with DirecTV.

[seawolf17]

I put my photos from the other night on Facebook:

http://www.new.facebook.com/album.php?aid=160399&l=5271e&id=672155021

And blogged my personal greatest Shea memories as well:

http://sbuchris.blogspot.com/2008/09/for-last-26-years-i-thank-you.html

[Willets Point]

="seawolf17":1nvfku7y]The Mets, inspired, go on to lose 4-2.[/quote:1nvfku7y] Mwahahaha.

themetfairy Sep 30 2008 06:48 PM

Tom Seaver and Mr. Met revealing Number 1 -

themetfairy Sep 30 2008 07:01 PM

="G-Fafif"]Leiter had a little grin when the boos came. He knew what it was about. Funny how comfortable he seemed slipping back into his Met persona -- just as comfortable as he was dishing/ripping management the next day. That's Al. Foster being booed was both wrong and, if you take common decency out of the equation, almost appropriate. You want to celebrate Met tradition? In the '80s, he was traditionally booed (not by me, but I was outnumbered). I was mildly disappointed on '86 reunion night that Doug Sisk was applauded. It's half a miracle that everything and everybody wasn't booed after the way Sunday's game ended and the long wait to get things going ceremonially speaking. What was with those frigging sandwich boards in the outfield? Make 'em just so! Then ignore 'em! Even Mr. Met was booed when he took down Number 1 to reveal this -

Gwreck Sep 30 2008 07:02 PM

People weren't booing Mr. Met. They were booing Citi Field.

Kong76 Sep 30 2008 07:07 PM

Agreed, it was obnoxious that a zero wasn't there and that stupid logo was.

themetfairy Sep 30 2008 07:28 PM

="Gwreck":3rrhrm7m]People weren't booing Mr. Met. They were booing Citi Field.[/quote:3rrhrm7m] True. batmagadanleadoff Sep 30 2008 08:04 PM ="themetfairy":1vx5k0gu]Note how the players were wearing uniforms that corresponded with the eras when they played.[/quote:1vx5k0gu] I was pleasantly surprised to see this. The Mets are more likely than not to cheap it up one way or another with these kind of ceremonies. Do you remember one particular '69 Mets reunion Old Timers Game? The players were given trucker style baseball caps. It appears though, that they incorrectly gave Willie Mays the same flannelly jersey the '60's Mets wore. In 1972, the Mets had switched to the modern stretch polyester uniform fabric. Mays never wore the flannelly Mets uniform. I'm going by memory here, but Mays would've been the only invitee that should've worn the polyestery 72-77 uniform. Dave Kingman, for example, had a second stint as a Met in the early '80's, and was given the two button uni that the Mets wore during their bad period. Other polyester 72-77 Mets, like Cleon and Garrett and Seaver and Yogi were also Mets before 1972, and so were able to wear the flannel '60's without violating the accuracy of the presentation. Was this an oversight or did the Mets cheap it up on grounds that it wasn't cost efficient (by what -- a hundred bucks?) to produce just one 72-77 uni? I also noticed that the only '90's Mets invited were also associated with the 2000 pennant winners. There were no pure '90's Mets present. (Edgardo Alfonzo, for example, was primarily a '90's Met, but not exclusively). Nobody there wore the button down racing stripes of 91-92 or the underlined Mets unis of 93-94. Nobody there wore my all time favorite Met unis, the 95-97 unis. Personally, I would have liked to see Anthony Young, among many many others, take a bow, just for the irony of it. [u:1vx5k0gu]On Edit[/u:1vx5k0gu]: Felix Millan belonged in a 72-77 poly uni. Does anyone remember which uni he wore during the ceremonies? SteveJRogers Sep 30 2008 08:14 PM I thought they should have had Franco represent that entire bridge between the 86ers and the Piazza era by wearing the 1986 style jersey and his old 31. For one as bml said, there was no onelse representing that era, and it really was Franco's peak as a Met closer. Hell, he had lost his closing job by the time 1999 rolled around. Thought it was slightly strange to see Foster in the 1982 style as that was the only year he wore them as a Met. Though it probably doesn't fit him anymore, it was nice to see Ed Kranepool don a jersey other than the last one he ever wore as a Met. I mean he was still wearing that yellowed 1979 home jersey during the 1994 1969 tribute! Speaking of 1969. Next year, 40th Anniversary, boy it will be weird seeing them celebrate it when the place where so many of those great moments will be a parking lot. FWIW since 1988 was never recognized, despite 1973 being honored at all the big milestone years, I guess the 99-00 squad will get a nice big combo bash (I hope anyway, it'd be the only way John Olerud returns) in 2010 for their ten year anniversary of the NL Champs. batmagadanleadoff Sep 30 2008 08:16 PM Franco debuted as a Met in 1990. Why would he wear an '86 jersey? Do you think that the actual '86 Mets would want this? This makes no sense. seawolf17 Sep 30 2008 08:21 PM What "pure 90s" Mets would you have wanted there? Bonilla? Jeff Kent? Vince Coleman? Those teams kinda sucked. Maybe Bernard Gilkey or Charlie O would have been cool. I'd vote for Pete Harnisch, but that's just my personal bias. John Cougar Lunchbucket Sep 30 2008 08:24 PM I always thought Butch Huskey was kinda Metly and 90sish. batmagadanleadoff Sep 30 2008 08:27 PM I'm not hung up at all on the idea that pure '90's Mets needed to be invited. I was only noticing though. But since you asked, Olerud for sure. I already mentioned Anthony Young. Todd Hundley. (Was there an issue with Hundley? Maybe he was invited but couldn't attend. I can't remember.) I liked Saberhagen a lot even though he was a bit of an asshole. You can't hold it against any Mets that their teams sucked. Otherwise, most of the invitees would've had to have been uninvited. SteveJRogers Sep 30 2008 08:37 PM ="batmagadanleadoff":1rti000y]Franco debuted as a Met in 1990. Why would he wear an '86 jersey? Do you think that the actual '86 Mets would want this? This makes no sense.[/quote:1rti000y] 1986 style, eh save for the change in pullover to button down and stitched on lettering instead of a nameplate for the NOB remained through 1992. While I agree that the style that came after the tail and before the black shadow and the snow white tops was a great style, Franco really wasn't Franco during those years. batmagadanleadoff Sep 30 2008 08:43 PM ="SteveJRogers":2b4tvqa5] ="batmagadanleadoff":2b4tvqa5]Franco debuted as a Met in 1990. Why would he wear an '86 jersey? Do you think that the actual '86 Mets would want this? This makes no sense.[/quote:2b4tvqa5] 1986 style, eh save for the change in pullover to button down and stitched on lettering instead of a nameplate for the NOB [/quote:2b4tvqa5] You forgot the anniversary patch the 86 Mets wore. That's what mainly distinguished the 86 uni from the 90 uni. You're right about the stitched on lettering, though. If you wanna get hyper technical, the 1990 unis had the Rawlings logo on the right sleeve. The 86 unis had no Mfr. logo on the sleeves. Frayed Knot Sep 30 2008 08:43 PM The more I read this board the more I realize that virtually everyone knows and cares about uniforms A LOT more than I do. SteveJRogers Sep 30 2008 08:48 PM ="seawolf17":19bd7ajf]What "pure 90s" Mets would you have wanted there? Bonilla? Jeff Kent? Vince Coleman? Those teams kinda sucked. Maybe Bernard Gilkey or Charlie O would have been cool. I'd vote for Pete Harnisch, but that's just my personal bias.[/quote:19bd7ajf] Hmmm, not saying I'd want them there, just saying it is odd to see Franco as a representative of the 1998-2001 Mets with Piazza, Zeile, Leiter, Ventura and Alfonzo. Granted he was there, and was the "captain" but I prefer remembering Franco with his # 31 jersey during the "Worst Team Money Can Buy" era. Put it this way, it would be exactly like seeing Kranepool in a replica of his 1979 home jersey out there. Just doesn't seem right even though he was there. SteveJRogers Sep 30 2008 08:52 PM ="batmagadanleadoff":3fgsp7nc] ="SteveJRogers":3fgsp7nc] ="batmagadanleadoff":3fgsp7nc]Franco debuted as a Met in 1990. Why would he wear an '86 jersey? Do you think that the actual '86 Mets would want this? This makes no sense.[/quote:3fgsp7nc] 1986 style, eh save for the change in pullover to button down and stitched on lettering instead of a nameplate for the NOB [/quote:3fgsp7nc] You forgot the anniversary patch the 86 Mets wore. That's what mainly distinguished the 86 uni from the 90 uni. You're right about the stitched on lettering, though. If you wanna get hyper technical, the 1990 unis had the Rawlings logo on the right sleeve. The 86 unis had no Mfr. logo on the sleeves.[/quote:3fgsp7nc] I didn't notice that the versions of the unis the 86ers were wearing out there had the actual 1986 jersey patch. Course they could have been wearing what they got (except for Doc of course) back in 2006, but the point was more the same style THAT the 1986ers were wearing at the ceremony. Not an actual 1986 Franco # 31 jersey that obviously only would be a Cincy Red jersey! batmagadanleadoff Sep 30 2008 08:57 PM The 86 Mets had the anniversary patch, and what appears to be a Majestic Mfr. Logo. The real 86 unis were manufactured by Rawlings; the sleeves were logoless. Mitchell & Ness made the flannelly '60's unis for Shea Goodbye. Apparently, more than one mfr. was involved in producing the various retro jerseys. AG/DC Sep 30 2008 09:21 PM Pure 90s Mets I salute: Rico Brogna Eddie Murray Todd Hundley, I guess Jose Vizcaino Jeff Kent Mlicki Manzanillo Yoshii While I'm in Japan, I salute Takashi Kashiwada, the man who opened Asia to the Mets. Know who'd be a cool invite (and maybe the Countdown Like It Oughta Be thought of this)? Steve Chilcott. themetfairy Oct 01 2008 02:24 AM Here are some pictures from Ralph Kiner Night (July 14, 2007). The view of Citi Field from the Shea tunnel near Gate E - Fans arriving from the subway - Citi Field rising behind Shea - themetfairy Oct 01 2008 02:27 AM Between the old and the new, before the September 14, 2008 Mr. Met Dash - themetfairy Oct 01 2008 06:07 AM This is an old photo. How old? Pre-MiniKnight old - the kid in the backpack is his older brother, who is now significantly taller than I am, and the little girl is now off to college. Oh, and that's me in the middle. In 1994 the Mets entered into a deal that included the installation of Nickelodeon's Extreme Baseball at Shea mini theme park just beyond right field. Living in the City with a 4-year-old and a toddler, ya gotta believe we made a lot of trips to that park. We were there for its opening, due to D-Dad's business connections, playing in the theme park along with some of the Mets who checked it out before that night's game (the only mar in that incredibly fun evening was the news that Dwight Gooden had entered rehab for the second time). When our planned baseball birthday party for our daughter at Shea (yes - there was a time in her life when she was actually into that kind of thing and didn't wince at the thought of baseball) was unworkable due to the strike, we amended the plan and had her party at the Nickelodeon park (for those of you who remember what Nickelodeon was into back then, you'll be amused to know that I was slimed. Slime is kind of like green vanilla pudding with an odd consistency...). This picture, though, was taken at a more routine time. We were at the park one afternoon (possibly 4th of July) and took a tour of Shea that included the clubhouse and the field. The kids and I sat in the Mets dugout while D-Dad took this picture. I generally hate having my picture taken, but this was an occasion that was worthy of an exception - themetfairy Oct 01 2008 06:12 AM This is a picture that iubitul took. D-Dad, a couple of friends and I had just completed the Run to Home Plate. We're in the Shea outfield, and the picture was taken above from the Picnic Area - (Psst - iubitul - did you ever scan the other photos from that day? There are a couple that would be fun to post if you did). G-Fafif Oct 01 2008 06:19 AM Not a photo-related comment but regarding invitees, Todd Hundley did receive a shoutout from Howie Rose when he ran down the list of those who couldn't be with us today. I was struck that the mostly dismal 1991-1996 Mets were represented by John Franco and nobody else, essentially. HoJo, Sid and Doc played on those teams, but aren't associated with them. Fonzie came up in '95, but he is a part of the postseason teams that came later in the mind's eye. So is Franco, I guess. Only because they went to the trouble of tracking down Doug Flynn, Craig Swan and John Stearns (and Mazzilli, I suppose, though he has '86 bona fides), did I get a little hung up on there not being a Rico Brogna (good fit, I hear), a Lance Johnson, or, as suggested, the Anthony Young. themetfairy Oct 01 2008 06:19 AM MK hanging out with some friends during a Mets Fan Club for Kids clinic. I think this was in 2005 - themetfairy Oct 01 2008 06:39 AM On the day I bought my good camera, I took this shot of David Wright connecting for a homer - Time will tell whether this was beginner's luck, but I'm happy with the shot. Benjamin Grimm Oct 01 2008 07:19 AM ="G-Fafif":2bw2zl3t]Not a photo-related comment but regarding invitees, Todd Hundley did receive a shoutout from Howie Rose when he ran down the list of those who couldn't be with us today. I was struck that the mostly dismal 1991-1996 Mets were represented by John Franco and nobody else, essentially. HoJo, Sid and Doc played on those teams, but aren't associated with them. Fonzie came up in '95, but he is a part of the postseason teams that came later in the mind's eye. So is Franco, I guess. Only because they went to the trouble of tracking down Doug Flynn, Craig Swan and John Stearns (and Mazzilli, I suppose, though he has '86 bona fides), did I get a little hung up on there not being a Rico Brogna (good fit, I hear), a Lance Johnson, or, as suggested, the Anthony Young.[/quote:2bw2zl3t] I was thinking along similar lines this morning in the car. There weren't many players present whose careers were strictly in the lean years and the in-between years. There were a few guys from the 1960's, like Frank Thomas, and 70's guys like Flynn, Swan, Stearns, and Kingman, but overall, very few of the returnees were guys who didn't appear in a World Series for the Mets. batmagadanleadoff Oct 01 2008 09:50 AM ="G-Fafif":1bl0kw4g]Only because they went to the trouble of tracking down Doug Flynn, Craig Swan and John Stearns (and Mazzilli, I suppose, though he has '86 bona fides), did I get a little hung up on there not being a Rico Brogna (good fit, I hear), a Lance Johnson, or, as suggested, the Anthony Young.[/quote:1bl0kw4g] Though I would've liked to see Anthony Young walk onto the Shea field last Sunday, as I already mentioned, I did not reasonably expect to see him. Until George Theodore was announced. Once The Stork was delivered, I thought that anything was possible and that everyone was in play. But not Bobby Bonilla. G-Fafif Oct 01 2008 10:05 AM ="batmagadanleadoff":36rnfjz9] ="G-Fafif":36rnfjz9]Only because they went to the trouble of tracking down Doug Flynn, Craig Swan and John Stearns (and Mazzilli, I suppose, though he has '86 bona fides), did I get a little hung up on there not being a Rico Brogna (good fit, I hear), a Lance Johnson, or, as suggested, the Anthony Young.[/quote:36rnfjz9] Though I would've liked to see Anthony Young walk onto the Shea field last Sunday, as I already mentioned, I did not reasonably expect to see him. Until George Theodore was announced. Once The Stork was delivered, I thought that anything was possible and that everyone was in play. But not Bobby Bonilla.[/quote:36rnfjz9] Shea Amnesty could have been the theme and everybody but Vince Coleman could have been welcomed and absolved. I could have applauded Bonilla. I could have applauded Alomar. I could have applauded Hebner just for old times' sake. I think, if sufficiently intoxicated, I could have applauded Glavine. But not Vince Coleman. A.Y., however, needed no amnesty. He was always treated well amid the disaster that went down around him. It would have been a classy Storklike move. themetfairy Oct 01 2008 02:26 PM MiniKnight's first game at Shea - I love how D-Dad caught Mr. Met's pixelated image smiling and waving on the scoreboard in the background. metsguyinmichigan Oct 01 2008 08:40 PM That's Mr. Met bestowing his blessing! Awesome shot! themetfairy Oct 01 2008 09:01 PM D-Dad says thanks soupcan Oct 02 2008 08:58 AM Not a Shea photo per se but still... I was looking through a box of crap in my attic and came across a Mets scorecard from 1985. I thought 'how cool would it be if this was from opening day and I actually scored it?'. I opened it up and guess what - it was and I did. Surprising to me because that opener I drove down from Syracuse with about 6-7 fraternity brothers and sat in the bitter cold of the upper deck. I'm sure I was drunk and my hands were frozen. In those days though I did score pretty much every game I went to. I checked UMDB against my log and I didn't do a half-bad job... Heep appears in the boxscore but not on my card, until you look closer - In the 7th it appears Heep was announced but I suppose Whitey replaced Campbell with Hassler for the lefty/righty thing so John Christensen took the AB. You can see that I wrote Heep's name but then crossed it out. Why was Davey PH-ing Heep for Straw though? Game was tied 5-5 men on first and second 2 out. What am I not seeing or remembering? Also - Note that Staub pinch-hit in the 9th and Darling ran for him. John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 02 2008 09:10 AM Holy shit, nice handwriting. Are you an architect? soupcan Oct 02 2008 09:11 AM Oh gosh really? Thanks. Its usually much neater, I was kind of embarassed to post it because I thought it was pretty sloppy. Not an architect but an illustrator in a previous life. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 09:13 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 02 2008 09:15 AM Strawberry opened the 1985 season hurt. His opening day start was in question and he did not play at all in the Mets next game. He missed a significant amount of playing time in 1985 to injuries. May I ask what frat you belonged to? Centerfield Oct 02 2008 09:13 AM ="themetfairy"]MiniKnight's first game at Shea - I love how D-Dad caught Mr. Met's pixelated image smiling and waving on the scoreboard in the background. That's amazing. MK already looks like himself. Not sure if that made any sense. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 09:17 AM How come my post above displays a "last edited" note even though this is the very next post? soupcan Oct 02 2008 09:19 AM ="batmagadanleadoff"]May I ask what frat you belonged to? Thanks for the Strawberry answer. HahnSolo Oct 02 2008 09:21 AM ="soupcan":3uc7yjo2] In those days though I did score pretty much every game I went to.[/quote:3uc7yjo2] You scored in the Shea upper deck? I should hang out at more games with you. metirish Oct 02 2008 09:24 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 02 2008 09:25 AM Brilliant posts from metfairy and soup...MF , the Mets cap looks over sized....what happened? Great score card soup , I scored my first game ever this season, in the second to last row up top behind home plate. It didn't look anything like yours though... soupcan Oct 02 2008 09:24 AM ="HahnSolo":2y3lkhxq]You scored in the Shea upper deck? I should hang out at more games with you.[/quote:2y3lkhxq] It was a looooong time ago. Its in me but its been hibernating for a while. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 09:29 AM ="soupcan":3jnfvsp6]Thanks for the Strawberry answer.[/quote:3jnfvsp6] That's on Comstock, with a lot of other frat houses, right? Did you see my Sherman Douglas post[/url:3jnfvsp6] from a few days ago? soupcan Oct 02 2008 09:32 AM Yup. 721 Comstock to be exact. I did see the Douglas post, you were right. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 09:33 AM Back on topic. Frayed Knot Oct 02 2008 09:34 AM ="batmagadanleadoff"]Strawberry opened the 1985 season hurt. His opening day start was in question and he did not play at all in the Mets next game. He missed a significant amount of playing time in 1985 to injuries. Most of his missed time was on account of when he rolled over on his thumb making a catch in a game I was at - in mid-May I think it was. ]How come my post above displays a "last edited" note even though this is the very next post? All that means is that you edited something in that post after the thread was active again. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 09:39 AM ="Frayed Knot":nd2dud0e] ="batmagadanleadoff":nd2dud0e]Strawberry opened the 1985 season hurt. His opening day start was in question and he did not play at all in the Mets next game. He missed a significant amount of playing time in 1985 to injuries.[/quote:nd2dud0e] Most of his missed time was on account of when he rolled over on his thumb making a catch in a game I was at - in mid-May I think it was. [/quote:nd2dud0e] You're right. But he opened the season with a nagging injury as well. I have the video of that complete game. I'll try and find it but it may take me a while, because I haven't converted that tape to disc. My old VHS's are a disorganized mess. dgwphotography Oct 02 2008 09:43 AM Soup - that's great stuff. I was sitting down underneath in the loge that day. Freaking Hernandez - strikes out in a big spot leading off the top of the 10th. So unclutch. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 09:49 AM ="Frayed Knot":itaev3d1]All that means is that you edited something in that post after the thread was active again.[/quote:itaev3d1] What do you mean by "thread was active again"? Based on experience, I thought that the "last edited" notation was activated only if the post was edited after someone else posted a subsequent message. soupcan Oct 02 2008 09:55 AM ="batmagadanleadoff":2of6od08]What do you mean by "thread was active again"? Based on experience, I thought that the "last edited" notation was activated only if the post was edited after someone else posted a subsequent message.[/quote:2of6od08] You edited at 11:15. CF posted at 11:13. OE: No, I'm wrong. That's weird. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 10:01 AM ="soupcan":3pdd5j9f] ="batmagadanleadoff":3pdd5j9f]What do you mean by "thread was active again"? Based on experience, I thought that the "last edited" notation was activated only if the post was edited after someone else posted a subsequent message.[/quote:3pdd5j9f] You edited at 11:15. CF posted at 11:13[/quote:3pdd5j9f] I dunno about that. When I originally posted that message, it appeared after CF's post. Why would my subsequent minute later edit appear based on an unedited post showing prior to my post, and thus, prior to my edit? batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 10:02 AM ="soupcan":2yeh8i49]OE: No, I'm wrong. That's weird.[/quote:2yeh8i49] Now you get it. themetfairy Oct 02 2008 10:38 AM ="Centerfield"] ="themetfairy"]MiniKnight's first game at Shea - I love how D-Dad caught Mr. Met's pixelated image smiling and waving on the scoreboard in the background. That's amazing. MK already looks like himself. Not sure if that made any sense. It makes sense. He's recognizable, even at three weeks old. Irish - I'm not sure what was up with the hat. That soon after a C-section I thought I was doing well getting dressed at all seawolf17 Oct 02 2008 12:03 PM Actually, as long as the message has been read at least once, then it gets the "edited" tag. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 02:26 PM ="seawolf17":neearbs2]Actually, as long as the message has been read at least once, then it gets the "edited" tag.[/quote:neearbs2] I'm not convinced because I know for sure that on occasion, I have edited some of my messages as much as a day after posting them. So long as my message in question was always the last one in the thread, the "last edited" note was never triggered. I know that others read the post after it was posted but prior to my edit based on the page view count. So based on my personal use, merely reading a post wouldn't be enough to trigger the edited notation if that post was ever to be edited. AG/DC Oct 02 2008 02:31 PM How about if somebody else had already hit the response button, even if they hadn't submitted? Frayed Knot Oct 02 2008 02:34 PM I think the mods should just confess that they're monitoring all of BatMags movements and activities. Nothing personal mind you, just be careful what you say in the bathroom. You never know who's listening. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 02:47 PM ="Frayed Knot":1klmkujp]I think the mods should just confess that they're monitoring all of BatMags movements and activities. Nothing personal mind you, just be careful what you say in the bathroom. You never know who's listening.[/quote:1klmkujp] That's what I always thought. Do you know that my avatar disappeared mysteriously? And that the feature that would allow me to simply submit another avatar is missing from my control panel or whatever it's called? What do you make of that, huh? dgwphotography Oct 02 2008 02:55 PM I don't remember if I've posted this one before: Fireworks Night, July 3, 2006: soupcan Oct 02 2008 03:02 PM Wow. cooby Oct 02 2008 03:37 PM ="soupcan":1twkt7gk] In those days though I did score pretty much every game I went to.[/quote:1twkt7gk] HAHAHAH, I am sure though that by now somebody else has already beaten me to this line, I'll go back and look cooby Oct 02 2008 03:40 PM Yep! themetfairy Oct 02 2008 03:50 PM ="Iubitul":2bej8qlv]I don't remember if I've posted this one before: Fireworks Night, July 3, 2006: [/quote:2bej8qlv] Whether it's a rerun or not, it's gorgeous. soupcan Oct 02 2008 04:48 PM ="cooby":1hpi6tfp] ="soupcan":1hpi6tfp] In those days though I did score pretty much every game I went to.[/quote:1hpi6tfp] HAHAHAH, I am sure though that by now somebody else has already beaten me to this line, I'll go back and look[/quote:1hpi6tfp] DOH! I didn't realize HahnSolo was taking the piss! I'm a moron. metsguyinmichigan Oct 02 2008 07:27 PM ="themetfairy":2i6sr6pi] ="Iubitul":2i6sr6pi]I don't remember if I've posted this one before: Fireworks Night, July 3, 2006: [/quote:2i6sr6pi] Whether it's a rerun or not, it's gorgeous.[/quote:2i6sr6pi] Clearly you're too good at this for it to just be a hobby. Are you a professional? I'm just in awe. I snapped shots of some of the same small details that you did -- like the little NYs in the grates around the trees -- yet you picked a really cool, unconventional angle to shoot it. Beautiful and creative. dgwphotography Oct 03 2008 12:32 AM ="metsguyinmichigan"] Clearly you're too good at this for it to just be a hobby. Are you a professional? I'm just in awe. I snapped shots of some of the same small details that you did -- like the little NYs in the grates around the trees -- yet you picked a really cool, unconventional angle to shoot it. Beautiful and creative. Thanks metsguy. I'm not a professional, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night... Seriously, it's a hobby - I'm a web developer by trade. But, it's also a passion that centers me. I can have a completely lousy day at work, but if I get to spend 15 productive minutes behind my camera, I'm completely relaxed and centered... Here's a couple of oldies. Please ignore the quality - my film scanner isn't working, so I had to scan the prints on a flatbed... July 4, 1986 - Nolan Ryan pitching to Gary Carter: September 18, 1986 - The best part of this pic is Backman's expression. Hungover much? John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 03 2008 05:46 AM Just look how much better those old shots look without Keyspan signs, giant dunkin donuts cups, too-dark blue paint, etc etc. This thread is going to make me dig out what I can find, but I'll start with this classikc: batmagadanleadoff Oct 03 2008 08:24 AM ="Iubitul":1jek1hyd]I don't remember if I've posted this one before: Fireworks Night, July 3, 2006: [/quote:1jek1hyd] I was surprised to read that you're not a pro. Professional is the first word that came to my mind when I saw this beautiful picture of Shea with the fireworks. Where were you sitting (or standing) when you took the picture of Carter batting against Ryan? AG/DC Oct 03 2008 08:33 AM If I remember him describing that photo last year, he put his camera down, satisfied he got the shot he wanted, and noticed the Mets team photographer right next to him going for the same shot. seawolf17 Oct 03 2008 08:34 AM Lost in that shot is the kid in the Wright shirt, bottom right corner, watching the fireworks. A nice touch. dgwphotography Oct 03 2008 11:56 AM ="batmagadanleadoff":2duv67l2]Where were you sitting (or standing) when you took the picture of Carter batting against Ryan?[/quote:2duv67l2] Thanks :-) I was able to sneak down to the first row behind home plate - got a lot of good shots that were on KC's site. dgwphotography Oct 03 2008 12:04 PM ="AG/DC":1gfkczpr]If I remember him describing that photo last year, he put his camera down, satisfied he got the shot he wanted, and noticed the Mets team photographer right next to him going for the same shot.[/quote:1gfkczpr] That was the first time I shot the fireworks, back in 1990. They had a photo contest sponsored by Kodak every year - I had won in the memorabilia category in 1989, and had my picture in the 1990 yearbook. So, I had the idea to try and shoot the fireworks that July - that's when I ran into Marc Lavine. When the 1991 yearbook came, and I saw his fireworks shot on the cover, I knew there was no way that mine made it into the yearbook. There's a post script to that story: I ran into Marc again in 2006. I snuck around to behind home plate in loge to take pictures of Mike Pelfrey in his ML debut. Marc was standing in the walkway right next to me. A security guard came over and started giving Marc a hard time about standing there. I leaned over the railing and asked him, "What, doesn't he recognize you?" Gotta love the security at Shea. Kong76 Oct 03 2008 05:44 PM The old school stuff is still there if anyone wants to re-explore .... http://www.kcmets.com/DGWPhotography/photonew1.htm metsguyinmichigan Oct 03 2008 05:48 PM I love the wallpaper shot of Reyes as a B-Met! SteveJRogers Oct 03 2008 06:25 PM ="Iubitul":2lf7a8xg] They had a photo contest sponsored by Kodak every year - I had won in the memorabilia category in 1989, and had my picture in the 1990 yearbook.[/quote:2lf7a8xg] I'm shocked that a Nikonian like you would stoop so low as to enter a contest run by Kodak! = dgwphotography Oct 03 2008 06:43 PM ="SteveJRogers":38evkptp] ="Iubitul":38evkptp] They had a photo contest sponsored by Kodak every year - I had won in the memorabilia category in 1989, and had my picture in the 1990 yearbook.[/quote:38evkptp] I'm shocked that a Nikonian like you would stoop so low as to enter a contest run by Kodak! =[/quote:38evkptp] Film, Steve. Film. I loved Kodak 64 slide film. Actually, starting in 1995, Kodak offered the DCS460[/url:38evkptp]. It was a 6mp digital camera which used a Nikon N90s SLR for the body. soupcan Oct 03 2008 09:07 PM ="Iubitul":2hzt6uz2]That was the first time I shot the fireworks, back in 1990. They had a photo contest sponsored by Kodak every year - I had won in the memorabilia category in 1989, and had my picture in the 1990 yearbook. [/quote:2hzt6uz2] So I read this and flipped through my '90 yearbook - holy cow - is (was) all that stuff in the picture yours? G-Fafif Oct 04 2008 04:04 AM I ran back to the '90 yearbook as well and was quite impressed with the collection as well as the photograph. A copy of "Nails" even! I'll bet Lenny Dykstra never read it. dgwphotography Oct 04 2008 05:28 AM Thanks guys. Yes, all that stuff in the picture is mine, and that collection has only grown... Of course I have a copy of Nails, my wife was such a big Dykstra fan, she even, gulp, rooted for the Phillies for a while when he got traded... soupcan Oct 06 2008 07:57 AM Taken on Opening Day 1987... Notice that there are no neon players on Shea yet. Sorry about the quality - haven't figured out the best settings for photos on the scanner yet. metirish Oct 06 2008 08:06 AM Those are great pictures soup , maybe it's the contrast but it looks cold and bleak that day.Is that guy wearing a batting helmet? DocTee Oct 06 2008 08:07 AM If you hadn't told me those were from 1987, I'd ve guessed they were from a decade earlier (based on the vehicles in the parking lot). AG/DC Oct 06 2008 08:08 AM Old school. That's how Met fans roll. soupcan Oct 06 2008 08:15 AM ="metirish":1lvfa5e8]Those are great pictures soup , maybe it's the contrast but it looks cold and bleak that day.Is that guy wearing a batting helmet?[/quote:1lvfa5e8] Cold and bleak - yes. Batting helmet - yes. ="DocTee":1lvfa5e8]If you hadn't told me those were from 1987, I'd ve guessed they were from a decade earlier (based on the vehicles in the parking lot).[/quote:1lvfa5e8] I agree - isn't it funny how its always the cars in photos that give a person a sense of the age of the picture? ="AG/DC":1lvfa5e8]Old school. That's how Met fans roll.[/quote:1lvfa5e8] Damn skippy. soupcan Oct 06 2008 08:31 AM Notice no skyline on the scoreboard. Round cut-outs in foul territory on either side of the plate. Never knew what those were for until I watched a DVD of game 4 of the '69 Series. During player intros before the game, Cuellar was warming up in it, tossing from there. Can you see straw-hat, hand-rolling lady in the front row behind homeplate? That's before they added the additional VIP seats and effectively put her 10 or so rows back. What the heck's going on at second base? AG/DC Oct 06 2008 08:37 AM I like the life-size bendable plastic Keith Hernandez figure out there. Nothing says "dreary opening day" like Ralph Kiner walking alone through the shade in his raincoat. soupcan Oct 06 2008 09:06 AM You think that's Ralph? I was going to guess Cashen. metirish Oct 06 2008 09:07 AM I was thinking M. Donald Grant . soupcan Oct 06 2008 09:08 AM He was long gone by then. metirish Oct 06 2008 09:08 AM Of course he wasn't even with the mets then...never mind me. Actually I meant Nelson Doubleday but I'm still probably wrong. soupcan Oct 06 2008 09:23 AM That could be Nelson. I don't think his hair was completely white yet in '87. batmagadanleadoff Oct 06 2008 09:24 AM I think it's Cashen, though it's hard to tell. I don't think it's Kiner; that's not Ralph's way of walking. AG/DC Oct 06 2008 09:26 AM Funny, I think that's exactly what makes him look Kineriffic. Funnier still is that I doubt either of us has seen Kiner walk more than a handful of times, but we both have a distinctive impression. Among other reasons, I think it's Ralph because he appears to be coming from a press scrum. batmagadanleadoff Oct 06 2008 09:31 AM ="soupcan"]That could be Nelson. I don't think his hair was completely white yet in '87. Maybe not, but it was surely on its way. That was the first game back since Wilpon wrested away Nelson's controlling interest in the club. Straw and Keith went at each other that Spring. Doc was in Smithers and at age 22, would never be consistently great again. Backman's "forty fuckin' car crashes" was already proving prophetic figuratively, if not literally. John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 06 2008 09:41 AM I would guess Doubleday. themetfairy Oct 06 2008 09:50 AM A couple of pictures from the 1987 opener - Opening ceremonies - First Pitch - John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 06 2008 09:57 AM Check out skinny Barry soupcan Oct 06 2008 10:00 AM Nice ones Fairy. Apparently you had much better seats than me... AG/DC Oct 06 2008 10:00 AM I like the area around the apple hat, strewn with empty crates and lurking hoods. metirish Oct 06 2008 10:03 AM I like how metfairy's picture helps answer who the people out in center field are in the picture soup posted, kind of cool that two members can post similar pictures for the same opening day in 1987. Farmer Ted Oct 06 2008 10:09 AM Any photos of Banner Day in the archives? Those would a nice treat. themetfairy Oct 06 2008 10:11 AM ="soupcan":19xbemwi]Nice ones Fairy. Apparently you had much better seats than me...[/quote:19xbemwi] Thanks soup. I worked for a law firm in 1987. There were only two good things about the job. One was my office (Empire State Building, 49th Floor, southern view) and the other was that the firm had season tickets and one of the partners would occasionally offer two of the seats to D-Dad and me. themetfairy Oct 06 2008 11:23 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 06 2008 11:45 AM I went into the old photo albums to scan some pictures from 1994's Nickelodeon's Extreme Baseball at Shea experiment. These are from the VIP Opening Party on June 28, 1994. I have pictures of each of my kids at about age 2 with John Franco. This is the one with my older son - We wouldn't have wanted to try to wipe the smile off of Bobby Bo's face - Back in 1994, we had no reason to dislike Jose Vizcaino - themetfairy Oct 06 2008 11:25 AM July 4, 1994. I previously posted the picture of myself with the kids in the dugout. Here are some other photos from that day. From the stadium tour that we took that day - themetfairy Oct 06 2008 11:30 AM Those of you who know my daughter now will be shocked to hear that there was a time she actually rooted for the Mets. We planned to have her 5th birthday at a game at Shea, but the plans were changed on account of strike. We had the birthday at the Nickelodeon park instead. The birthday girl - Cute cake - If you remember Nickelodeon at the time, slime was a big thing. The birthday girl didn't want to be slimed herself, but wanted to slime her mom instead. Let it not be said that I've never done anything for that girl - metirish Oct 06 2008 11:41 AM Absolutely classic , the clothes the uniforms , the sunglasses , everything. We need a thread for classic Mets and Shea pictures like these. Benjamin Grimm Oct 06 2008 12:02 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 06 2008 12:04 PM .. Benjamin Grimm Oct 06 2008 12:03 PM I've been thinking of putting a Shea slideshow on the UMDB. I have a few pictures of my own of the "Shea experience" that I've taken over the last couple of years. Some with architectural details, some of fans crowding through the gates, etc. I've been meaning to ask for submissions of similar photos, and I guess this is as good a time and place as any to start. I'm more interested in "neutral" photos rather than those that feature smiling friends or family members. Some of the photos posted in this thread would be great for that. If anyone who's posted any photos objects to the pictures being used in this manner, please let me know. (I intend to specifically ask permission to use any of these before I actually do so.) A couple of weeks ago I created a prototype slide show. Take a peek if you like: http://www.leaptoad.com/mets/slidetest.php Some day there will be similar slideshows available to all visitors, and they'll have individual themes. Right now I'm slowly putting together one that will capture the events surrounding the final day at Shea Stadium. themetfairy Oct 06 2008 12:32 PM Nice slideshow BG. And I have no objection if you'd like to use any photo that I've posted on the UMDB metirish Oct 06 2008 12:34 PM I like the prototype, nice work. themetfairy Oct 06 2008 06:07 PM May 30, 1999 was a Beanie Babies giveaway day at Shea. I was writing for Mary Beth's Bean Bag World Magazine at the time, and i was able to get press credentials for the game. I was constantly expecting security to tap me on the shoulder and tell me that I didn't belong on the field, but they didn't. Here's my press pass - Diamond Vision - D-Dad took this shot of me from the Field Level - Olerud and the Shea Scoreboard - The Diamond Vision later, from the Upper Deck - Pictures of players to follow.... themetfairy Oct 06 2008 06:12 PM Most of the players were incredibly good sports about having their picture taken with the Beanie Baby du Jour. My big regret was not asking Bobby Valentine for a picture, A) because he would have; and it was a Valentina Beanie Baby. The only one who turned me down was Todd Pratt, but since he was signing autographs at the time I'll give him a pass on that. Rey Ordonez - Roger Cedeno (whose solo homer provided the Mets with their only run as they lost that day) - Edgardo Alfonzo - Mike Piazza (who not only posed for this picture, but graciously gave me a little blather quote for my article) - Benny Agbayani - Fman99 Oct 06 2008 08:08 PM Great pictures MetFairy. How awesome to see those guys being good sports. Man I loved that '99 squad. themetfairy Oct 06 2008 08:23 PM They were a great bunch, for sure. cooby Oct 06 2008 09:16 PM NICE seawolf17 Oct 07 2008 12:57 PM Funny photos. What a neat experience. themetfairy Oct 07 2008 01:41 PM Thanks. It was surreal, and very cool soupcan Oct 13 2008 07:27 AM No seats! AG/DC Oct 13 2008 07:44 AM Well, that one guy has a seat. I think we can take him. metsguyinmichigan Oct 13 2008 09:51 AM He's guarding the stop sign before the people from MeiGray come to pick it up for the auction. soupcan Oct 15 2008 08:46 PM Found these pictures in a thread at baseball fever... AG/DC Oct 15 2008 09:44 PM Agh. themetfairy Oct 16 2008 04:42 AM That one gave me a bad dream last night Benjamin Grimm Oct 16 2008 08:13 AM I found this one the most painful: metirish Oct 16 2008 08:14 AM Great pictures , thanks soup. AG/DC Oct 16 2008 08:24 AM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ut1H4o_ie8c metirish Oct 16 2008 08:50 AM Great song edgy , a blast form the past. dgwphotography Oct 16 2008 09:01 AM I think I'm going through the anger phase of mourning. I'm sure I'll come around, but right now, I just so angry over everything regarding the dismantling of Shea, and the move to his corporate playground. Through it all, I keep getting the feeling that Shea was ours, and CitiField belongs to him. Bastard. AG/DC Oct 16 2008 09:19 AM I don'think it's us against him when the vast majority of the fans and media supported the move. If so, it's a slender us. Farmer Ted Oct 16 2008 10:52 AM Painful. But ther new place will be a treat. themetfairy Oct 16 2008 11:06 AM The new place will be ours. We'll make it ours, dammit! G-Fafif Oct 16 2008 03:51 PM Tour[/url:24y3xk17] of Citi Field parking lot... metirish Oct 16 2008 06:05 PM Whats with the actual hole in the pitchers mound? Benjamin Grimm Oct 16 2008 06:53 PM I'm guessing there was something buried under the mound that they wanted to retrieve. I don't have a great guess as to what it was. My best guess is some kind of camera, but I don't recall seeing any mounds-eye views on any telecasts. soupcan Oct 16 2008 07:06 PM ="metirish":35vh26wx]Whats with the actual hole in the pitchers mound?[/quote:35vh26wx] I'm guessing that they dug up the pitching rubber - to sell it of course - and that hole is a result. dgwphotography Oct 16 2008 07:18 PM no - I think that was where the plumbing was for the hose they used to water down the infield.... soupcan Oct 17 2008 07:31 AM ="Iubitul"]no - I think that was where the plumbing was for the hose they used to water down the infield.... Makes more sense. Wonder how much they're selling that for Zvon Oct 19 2008 06:48 PM I didn't realize this til recently. I thought I was bummed at seasons end because the team failed to get to the post season. But being a Met fan for 40 years, this is really something I'm used to. For the team, there was/is always next year. But this was it for Shea.... This is what really bummed me out. That they couldn't get Shea to the post season one more time. That would have been the way send her off. Great pictures here posted by all, and really fun to view. Iubitul, your pictures of Shea are breathtaking. Absolutely breathtaking and beautiful. Everybody, thanks for sharing them. themetfairy Oct 19 2008 06:51 PM Warewolf! Good to see you, man. Don't be a stranger! metirish Oct 20 2008 12:29 PM Found this persons work over at Faith & Fear( looks like a few have been posted here already) , very extensive collection of great pictures. What does picture #40 show? picnic area? http://sports.webshots.com/album/568107635SUQZeD Read this from Jason over at Faith and Fear. http://www.faithandfearinflushing.com/ Farmer Ted Oct 20 2008 07:37 PM Where the heck are they storing 55,000 seats? metsguyinmichigan Oct 21 2008 08:21 AM Uniwatch reports that the Agee marker appears to have been saved! Willets Point Oct 21 2008 08:25 AM ="Farmer Ted"]Where the heck are they storing 55,000 seats? dgwphotography Oct 22 2008 04:55 AM ="metsguyinmichigan"] Uniwatch reports that the Agee marker appears to have been saved! Yeah - probably to be sold... soupcan Oct 22 2008 07:40 AM Farmer Ted Oct 22 2008 02:52 PM I share Belushi's reaction. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gI3nb9x5VhY Zvon Oct 22 2008 06:11 PM ="soupcan"] Oh my.... This is difficult to witness. PiggiesTomatoes Oct 24 2008 08:29 PM A couple of shots from my only game this season -- at least it was a win. The only win against the pitiful Mariners this season. Down in Tampa now and don't get back to NY all that often for games. > My basehit at Shea. Fantasy Camp reunion in 2006... The place may have been a bit of a dump but it was our dump. Rockin' Doc Oct 25 2008 05:37 AM Nice pictures. Welcome to the pool. Nice handle, I hope you stick around. metirish Oct 25 2008 05:46 AM ="PiggiesTomatoes":2399a9u7] The place may have been a bit of a dump but it was our dump.[/quote:2399a9u7] Thank you and welcome. metsguyinmichigan Oct 25 2008 01:01 PM Great photos! I can't imagine how glorious it was to get that hit. Welcome aBordick! themetfairy Oct 25 2008 01:43 PM This little piggy is a welcome addition to the Pool - Welcome Zvon Oct 25 2008 07:00 PM Excellent pics Piggie! Actually batting at Shea must have been an incredible experience. Is that a female catcher? PiggiesTomatoes Oct 25 2008 07:59 PM Thanks, everyone, for the kind words. I'd joined some time ago but didn't visit for a while, then got locked out and getting back in was a bitch! Riffraff filter must work. Getting to play on the field was a thrill and yes, it was a female catcher. She was the only female in camp and was a trooper. Regards, JF Kong76 Oct 26 2008 05:03 PM PT: joined some time ago but didn't visit for a while, then got locked out and getting back in was a bitch! Riffraff filter must work <<< Read your email around 9 AM on Fri and answered, and had you set up before 6 PM that same day. No one was locked out and getting back was as easy as sending an email. PiggiesTomatoes Oct 26 2008 07:33 PM I wasn't being critical...thought that use of the term riffraff filter would have communicated sarcasm. That said, I'd attempted logging in unsuccessfully with my original password without luck and when I tried to use the forgot password link, I repeatedly received a message that my name and email address did not match. Then, I was unable to find an email address on the forum to contact, ultimately "googling" to find the admin addy. It wasn't easy...but I do appreciate the prompt reply once I emailed the correct address. JF G-Fafif Oct 26 2008 07:38 PM PT, Great pictures. At first glance I wondered how the Mariners game was suddenly being played in daylight. Per your sobriquet, let us know who will be ready first: Hausman or Kobel. Kong76 Oct 27 2008 05:41 AM Maybe it's me and I'm just being cranky and defensive but the email address is right up top: Everybody in the pool! Joining us for off-season hot stove discussion is easy. Shoot us an email [click here] Glad you re-found us. Willets Point Oct 27 2008 01:12 PM Welcome Piggie! You can hold the conch while you're here. soupcan Oct 28 2008 10:54 AM will the Dunkin' Dounts cup be the last man standing? metirish Oct 28 2008 10:57 AM Helps keep the workers running. Gwreck Oct 28 2008 11:46 AM It's somewhat refreshing that nobody was dumb enough to shell out the ~$5000 the greedy MeiGray group was asking for it. AG/DC Oct 28 2008 11:47 AM Or they're moving it to the new digs. seawolf17 Oct 28 2008 01:12 PM It'd be funny if they just left it in the parking lot. Benjamin Grimm Oct 28 2008 01:22 PM They do seem to have demolished around it. Maybe it will be moved to Citi Field. I imagine the new place will have some advertising, no? SteveJRogers Oct 28 2008 01:23 PM ="Gwreck":1zlwh6r8]It's somewhat refreshing that nobody was dumb enough to shell out the ~$5000 the greedy MeiGray group was asking for it.[/quote:1zlwh6r8] Say what you will about memorabilia sellers like MeiGray and Steiner, that probably really is the going rate for that kind of unique advertising as memorabilia. Honestly, there probably is a market for stuff like that; McDonald arches, Big Boys Big Boy, etc. Just no one that got involved in the Shea Memorabilia auctions was into it. metirish Oct 28 2008 01:28 PM ="SteveJRogers":1991yy98] Say what you will about memorabilia sellers like MeiGray and Steiner,[/quote:1991yy98] Thank you , I will. Fucking scum they are. Benjamin Grimm Oct 28 2008 01:33 PM I'm not sure I understand the animosity. metirish Oct 28 2008 01:39 PM Well he said say what you want so I did.... soupcan Oct 28 2008 02:15 PM I guess as long as there are people out there who are willing to pay those ridiculous prices then I don't have an issue with someone charging it. Capitalism and all that. I am upset at the kind of money they are asking for stuff though. I intended to get a pair of seats but $869.00? Really? For what will amount to a novelty in my yard? Then I looked around the website and I thought that this: ...would be cool. But those are up over $1,200.00. They so take advantage of our own feelings towards the team - hundreds of dollars for bricks, almost a grand for seats. Its just a little disappointing is all. soupcan Nov 01 2008 11:01 AM Say goodbye to the shrimpeaters! Field level frst base side is the first to go. Valadius Nov 01 2008 11:21 AM Do they HAVE to have debris strewn around that wonderful field? Kong76 Nov 01 2008 11:26 AM SJR: Say what you will about memorabilia sellers like MeiGray <<< Irish: Thank you , I will. Fucking scum they are <<< I know the guy who was the first premier club guy in line and I didn't get the impression that the guys willing to spend the cash thought MeiGray was hus- tling anyone ... they're brokers. He advertised the event to everyone on his memorabilia buying list and I assume he did so to generate interest among those who were obviously interested. I hope he got a kick back, it's the American way! I wrote back that they're gonna cause a few divorces to which he quipped, "never tell your wife what you're really spending on Mets' stuff!" soupcan Nov 01 2008 11:49 AM ="Valadius":3pluypt1]Do they HAVE to have debris strewn around that wonderful field?[/quote:3pluypt1] I think that's kinda unavoidable when you're tearing a structure down. What are they supposed to do - follow the bulldozers around with a broom and dustpan? metsmarathon Nov 01 2008 02:40 PM that's just silly. what they should do is gingerly remove each and every peice the way it was originally put in, and delicately hand carry it out of the stadium grounds, stepping only on the red carpet laid across the field, and place each dutifully salvaged quantum of the stadium into its own velvet lined receptacle wherein it will remain interred through the end of time. soupcan Nov 03 2008 07:55 AM Dunkin' Donuts Down! Benjamin Grimm Nov 03 2008 07:57 AM I expected it would be surrounded by a large puddle of spilled coffee. soupcan Nov 03 2008 07:57 AM Link There are more pictures on the site. ] November 1, 2008 Bulk of Shea Stadium awaits sale in Bridgewater company's warehouse By MICHAEL DEAK Staff Writer From the outside it looks like an unremarkable warehouse, not like the pyramids in Egypt that were built as mausoleums for the pharaohs. But inside that squat warehouse are treasures that, for New York Mets fans, are as valuable as anything that has ever been found inside the pyramids. It is the Bridgewater warehouse of the MeiGray Group, which has the task of selling all the contents of Shea Stadium, except for the seats. Warren resident Barry Meisel, a former sportswriter for the New York Daily News who is the president and chief operating officer of the MeiGray Group, doesn't want the exact location of the warehouse disclosed for security reasons because it houses thousands of items saved from Shea Stadium before the stadium's slow demolition started earlier this month. Everything is for sale, except for two items that Meisel bought for himself � a picture of the celebration after the Mets clinched the World Series in 1969, and the portion of the center field wall that bears the 410-foot marker. "I always wanted that," he said. Memorabilia Meisel estimated that the warehouse contains from 5,000 to 7,000 items from Shea Stadium. Some of the items are relatively minor, such as the hundreds of nameplates that were placed on the back of seats occupied by season ticket holders. There are numerous boxes of photographs taken from the walls of corridors, executive offices, suites and inside the stadium. The pictures are blown-up images of legendary Mets and the unforgettable moments from the team's 46-year history. In the middle of the warehouse is a nondescript pile of wood found at any demolition site. But, Meisel said, it is a special pile of wood � boards from benches in both the home and visiting team dugouts. The boards were never replaced in the dugouts but have been painted many times, he said. Also in the middle of the warehouse are the 150-foot foul poles that have been broken into 25-foot sections. There are rows of lockers from both the Mets and visitors' locker rooms, as well as cubicles from where players hung their clothes and kept their valuables during games. Throughout the warehouse are piles of outfield wall sections including the retired numbers of players and managers. Flags that flew at the top of the stadium have also found a home in the warehouse. There also are hundreds of signs from throughout the stadium � signs that hung on restroom doors and signs that directed fans to the subway station. A sign of team mascot Mr. Met saying smoking is prohibited in the stadium has already been sold for $100, Meisel said. And there are hundreds of curiosities: an orange water cooler with the Mets logo and a plaque from Seton Hall University honoring Frank Cashen, who was the Mets general manager in the 1980s and considered to be the architect of the team that won the 1986 World Series. There is even a lime marker that came from the Polo Grounds, the original home of the Mets, that was still used by the grounds crew at Shea. Toward the front of the warehouse is a cluster of fan assistance, concession and program booths that Meisel said would look great in any Met fan's backyard. One of the most intriguing items is the concrete marker that was placed in the left field upper deck where centerfielder Tommie Agee hit the longest home run in Shea Stadium's history, on April 10, 1969. Some of the most popular items salvaged from the stadium are not in the warehouse because they've already been sold. All of the stadium's 31 turnstiles have been sold. It was a daunting job, but all of the items were recovered from Shea Stadium after the last game of the season. Swing bidder Many of the items from Shea will be auctioned on the MeiGray's group's Web site. The first auction ended Friday, Oct. 31, but Meisel said there will be future monthly auctions. He estimates it will take a year to sell everything from the stadium. Proceeds from the sale will be divided among New York City, which owns the stadium, and the Mets Foundation, said Jay Horowitz, vice president of media relations for the Mets. The Mets Foundation funds and promotes a variety of charitable causes, including educational, social and athletic programs for young people. What people are willing to pay for some of the items has Meisel scratching his head. For example, the wrought-iron "tree surrounds" with the Mets logo that protected the trees in the parking lot are receiving bids of more than $1,000. Menu board signs from concession stands are fetching bids around $1,000. A section of the outfield wall goes for close to $900. Bids on ketchup and mustard holders with the Mets logo are more than $500. Even a neon Bud Light sign has a bid of $515. As a literal sign of better times, an outfield wall panel with an AIG advertisement had a bid of $1,420. "This (sale) only happens once every 45 years," Meisel said. A Jersey boy Meisel and his partner Bob Gray started the MeiGray Group in the 1990s. After 19 years as a sportswriter for the Daily News covering professional hockey and the New York Giants, Meisel said he became tired of traveling. Meisel's decision to channel his interest in sports into a new career came at an opportune time. With the economy growing steadily, the market for collectible sports memorabilia began to boom in the late 1990s. He developed the idea of selling authenticated jerseys that were worn by professional hockey players. He wrote a business plan and approached one of the teams that he used to cover, the New York Rangers, and in August 1997 signed an exclusive deal to sell the team's previously worn jerseys. The Rangers deal led to agreements with the New Jersey Devils. Next, the MeiGray group inked deals with NBA teams. An NHL or NBA player goes through about six jerseys during a season, three in the home uniform and three in the away uniforms, he said. Last week, as Meisel was sitting in the warehouse, he showed a jersey that had been worn the previous night by Elton Brand, an NBA veteran free agent, who had made his debut as a Philadelphia 76er on the night of Wednesday, Oct. 29. "It smells," Meisel said. "It's sweaty." But it's also valuable to collectors and fans of Brand. That's why representatives, working with the teams' equipment managers, of the MeiGray Group often go into locker rooms immediately after games to get the jerseys. The key to the business, headquartered in Branchburg, is the authentication process that guarantees buyers they are getting genuine items. The jersey comes with a letter of authentication with the team's letterhead, Meisel said. The MeiGray Group has seven full-time employees who are responsible for acquiring the items, cataloging and pricing them, selling them and then shipping them to the buyers. "We have a great staff," Meisel said, adding that he hires collectors to help him put values on the items. The company's growing reputation was one of the reasons why the MeiGray Group got the contract with the Mets to sell the memorabilia from Shea Stadium, which is owned by the City of New York. Meisel is no longer spending hours away from home traveling for his job, but said he works from 60 to 70 hours a week. "I'm happy," he said. "This is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity." John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 03 2008 07:58 AM ="soupcan"]Dunkin' Donuts Down! Finally some destruction I can support. It be cool if we cracked that open and Rachel Ray would come out naked. Edgy DC Nov 03 2008 08:01 AM it would be kind of cool to give the Agee marker to the Agee family. Ditto the Seaver/Stengel/Hodges numbers. Farmer Ted Nov 03 2008 08:42 AM The DD sign was an eyesore. Those stupid police lights and the K sign were bad ideas drawn up by some idiot in a board room. Edgy DC Nov 03 2008 08:47 AM Doesn't this look like they composed a Met jersey and photoshopped it onto a Yankee picture of Wille? metirish Nov 03 2008 08:48 AM ] Finally some destruction I can support. It be cool if we cracked that open and Rachel Ray would come out naked. Saw her recently and couldn't believe how heavy she has gotten. Benjamin Grimm Nov 03 2008 08:55 AM Rachael Ray is an example of how someone can be both cute AND unappealing at the same time. Edgy DC Nov 03 2008 08:58 AM Can we just not talk about happy homemakers from TV ever? Benjamin Grimm Nov 03 2008 09:04 AM metsguyinmichigan Nov 03 2008 09:53 AM ="Benjamin Grimm":2zdqcdh1]Rachael Ray is an example of how someone can be both cute AND unappealing at the same time.[/quote:2zdqcdh1] Well, if you go back to the early shows on Food Network, she was always a little chunky, part of her girl next door appeal. She certainly had a makeover when the show went big, and this year appeared to have some, um, surgical enhancements, in the chest area, unless they did some severe Photoshop work for the magazine covers. My crush on Rachael is well-known, and somewhat tolerated by my wife. Benjamin Grimm Nov 03 2008 11:14 AM It's not her weight that makes her unappealing, it's the noises that come out of her mouth. G-Fafif Nov 03 2008 11:42 AM ="Edgy DC":2j9ucmx8]Doesn't this look like they composed a Met jersey and photoshopped it onto a Yankee picture of Wille? [/quote:2j9ucmx8] This would explain why the Mets in recent years seemed so flat. metsguyinmichigan Nov 03 2008 12:10 PM ="Benjamin Grimm":1wzmvwjl]It's not her weight that makes her unappealing, it's the noises that come out of her mouth.[/quote:1wzmvwjl] She talks? Benjamin Grimm Nov 03 2008 12:17 PM She tries. themetfairy Nov 03 2008 01:02 PM She squawks. seawolf17 Nov 03 2008 02:46 PM ="soupcan":1mxbmvn9]A sign of team mascot Mr. Met saying smoking is prohibited in the stadium has already been sold for $100, Meisel said.[/quote:1mxbmvn9] FUCKIN' HELL. That's all I wanted from the stadium. I just left a message with someone at MeiGray. soupcan Nov 07 2008 07:18 AM Found these at baseball-fever.com First game ever at Shea... Last game ever at Shea... Benjamin Grimm Nov 07 2008 07:37 AM It was prettier when it opened than when it closed. Edgy DC Nov 07 2008 08:39 AM The pitch could have been in better condition. G-Fafif Nov 07 2008 09:00 AM A ballpark that looked better with a parking lot in the background will now itself be a parking lot. The irony is as thick as the outfield grass was thin. Benjamin Grimm Nov 07 2008 09:12 AM Looking at the two photos together really shows how much garishness was added to Shea over the years. I'm sure Citi Field with start out with a lot of that clutter already in place. I can only imagine what it will look like 40 years from now. (And I hope I live to find out! At this point, another 40 years is about as much as I care to get.) John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 07 2008 09:33 AM ="Edgy DC":2749cxyp]The pitch could have been in better condition.[/quote:2749cxyp] Shea was barely complete when it opened. They worked till the very last minute. They said it was very soft and muddy in the outfield. metirish Nov 07 2008 09:40 AM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":1qbr6llo] ="Edgy DC":1qbr6llo]The pitch could have been in better condition.[/quote:1qbr6llo] Shea was barely complete when it opened. They worked till the very last minute. They said it was very soft and muddy in the outfield.[/quote:1qbr6llo] Was there even a fence at the back behind CF separating it form the parking lot , it's hard to tell. soupcan Nov 07 2008 09:43 AM And half of the parking lot isn't even paved yet. Willets Point Nov 07 2008 09:46 AM All the cars are the same size though. soupcan Nov 11 2008 08:03 AM First base Field level is gone, Third base nearly so. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 08:14 AM One advantage to implosions (yes, I realize that wasn't possible in this case) is that they're quick. This is like a band-aid being slowly and painfully peeled off. seawolf17 Nov 11 2008 11:29 AM ="themetfairy":2tehg78d]One advantage to implosions (yes, I realize that wasn't possible in this case) is that they're quick. This is like a band-aid being slowly and painfully peeled off.[/quote:2tehg78d] No kidding. I should stop opening this thread. G-Fafif Nov 11 2008 12:26 PM That sure was some tadium. Zvon Nov 11 2008 12:57 PM ="themetfairy":3vpl9tnq]One advantage to implosions (yes, I realize that wasn't possible in this case) is that they're quick. This is like a band-aid being slowly and painfully peeled off.[/quote:3vpl9tnq] I couldn't have said it better. I have to say I am a bit surprised how the destruction of Shea is effecting me. It has to be this slow torturous way I'm viewing it bit by bit. ="seawolf17":3vpl9tnq]No kidding. I should stop opening this thread.[/quote:3vpl9tnq] I'm with you seawolf17. Edgy DC Nov 11 2008 01:12 PM We let this happen. More than a few advocated it's happening. It's no time to turn away now. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 01:22 PM I'll own up to wanting the new stadium. I'm not denying that. But I've seen this transition done in several other cities during the past few years, and to a team they've all handled it better than the Mets have. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 01:34 PM I'm enjoying the pictures and saving everyone one of them. Keep 'em coming, I stopped licking my wound about ten days ago. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 01:35 PM tmf: they've all handled it better than the Mets have <<< How so? soupcan Nov 11 2008 01:39 PM I'll miss the old girl too but c'mon. Think of what it will be like having wide walkways! Benjamin Grimm Nov 11 2008 01:42 PM Wide walkways and legroom are nothing to sneeze at. I'd feel differently if I still lived in New York. But as rarely as I get to Shea Queens to see the Mets play anymore, I don't think Citi Field will ever feel like home to me. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 01:44 PM I remember the Phillies homage to the Vet in 2003 - a stadium that was younger than Shea and didn't have nearly the history Shea did. IIRC they were the first to take down a number before each game, but they made sure that every number was taken down by someone with a meaningful connection to the team or the stadium (not a Lincoln Mercury dealer in the lot). Their post-game ceremony after their final game was very moving (I'll find the link to it shortly), without the idiotic delay that Mets fans had to endure after Shea's final game. They had books ghost written by the Phillies Phanatic helping prepare younger fans for the move. From top to bottom it just seemed like a much better thought out operation. Edgy DC Nov 11 2008 01:49 PM That has little to do with photos of the de-construction. Is a delay before a ceremony such a big deal? themetfairy Nov 11 2008 01:52 PM The delay before the ceremony was just endemic of the half-assed job the Mets did in properly celebrating Shea's final season. They had an opportunity to do the old girl real justice, and they dropped the ball every chance they could. I couldn't find that footage of the final game ceremony at the Vet on the Phillies' site (and I feel very dirty trolling around there - ick!). But it had much more of a well-planned feel to it. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 01:56 PM How did we get from handling the transition in a day by day demolition thread which you said other teams did better to closing ceremonies and silly number countdowns? themetfairy Nov 11 2008 02:06 PM ="KC"]How did we get from handling the transition in a day by day demolition thread which you said other teams did better to closing ceremonies and silly number countdowns? I mentioned the transition in general. You asked for details. I think that if the Mets did a better job in paying homage to Shea this past season that people wouldn't be as upset about its destruction as they are. Agree or disagree with that premise - it's merely a theory. Edgy DC Nov 11 2008 02:08 PM I wouldn't feel dirty seeking for it if you liked it. If you like it, you like it. It's all MLB's website anyhow. I'm just not ready to kick the Mets because they don't demolish the stadium in a manner comparable to the White Sox or the Rangers. Or such having anything to do with why folks say they won't open this thread. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 02:12 PM You seem to be switching gears, going from "we let this happen/some advocated for it" to "I'm not ready to kick the Mets." You cool with this or not? Kong76 Nov 11 2008 02:15 PM tmf: I mentioned the transition in general. You asked for details <<< How did all the others "to a team" handle the dismantling of their old stadium better than the Mets? Edgy DC Nov 11 2008 02:21 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Nov 11 2008 02:27 PM You're excerpting phrases out of sentences there. It's clear to anybody that I didn't support a new stadium. How it's demolished is a moot point and I don't see how it can be done better, or indeed has been done better by everyone else. Frayed Knot Nov 11 2008 02:25 PM Maybe they can demolish the stadium by bringing each piece out on a velvet pillow laid out on a sled pulled by a puppy dog. I'm sure we'd all feel better then. This wound-licking is getting too much. I want video of the destruction and i hope it's bloody. Benjamin Grimm Nov 11 2008 02:29 PM I don't think the Mets did such a bad job with the last year of Shea. Yeah, there were too many Lincoln-Mercury dealers pulling down the numbers. But I think the closing ceremony was nicely done. Very nicely done. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 02:36 PM The physical demolition of Shea has to be done in this manner because implosion is not possible. My point is that I don't think that people would be reacting to the demolition process as painfully as they are if the Mets had done a better job of honoring Shea properly in its final season. Benjamin Grimm Nov 11 2008 02:38 PM Speaking only for myself, I just find it a little bit sad. No pain though. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 02:39 PM I know people who are in real pain over this. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 02:44 PM There's no way I could cull what fairy's point was from what she typed, I don't read posters minds, we were talking about the demolition pics. Problem with getting too wrapped up in the Mets will never be the same with- out good ol' Shea is before you know it's twenty years from now and you're writing letters to the paper like Bob L about how greener the grass was there and popcorn fresher. The bathroom floors were even drier and less sticky 20 years from now too I bet and those wonderful sight lines ... themetfairy Nov 11 2008 02:50 PM If that's the case, then I weep for the yet-to-be-finished Citi Field. Frayed Knot Nov 11 2008 02:54 PM I think we're starting to sound like the wound-lickers we used to make fun of; - oh no, this stadium is being destroyed worse than any other stadium in the history of destroyed stadiums - only the Mets could paint their foul lines crooked - why did Shea have to die so young? Kong76 Nov 11 2008 02:57 PM tmf: I know people who are in real pain over this <<< Send 'em here! Edgy DC Nov 11 2008 03:00 PM ="Frayed Knot":3qcqh3up]I think we're starting to sound like the wound-lickers we used to make fun of; - oh no, this stadium is being destroyed worse than any other stadium in the history of destroyed stadiums - only the Mets could paint their foul lines crooked - why did Shea have to die so young?[/quote:3qcqh3up] Wait a minute, that second one wuz you. Edgy DC Nov 11 2008 03:00 PM ="KC"]tmf: I know people who are in real pain over this <<< Send 'em here! I think they're minors. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 03:02 PM Actually, Iubital's post yesterday ("it doesn't surprise me") started me on this build up of let's stop the wound licking that was bound to come out. I think. I ain't going back to look. (OE: meaning the foul line not lining up) themetfairy Nov 11 2008 03:18 PM ="Edgy DC"] ="KC"]tmf: I know people who are in real pain over this <<< Send 'em here! I think they're minors. No - the minors I know aren't as connected to Shea as most of the adults I know. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 03:24 PM How do they feel about the demolition? Do the also feel that it's being handled "to a team" much worse by the Mets? Or are they just bitter about the closing ceremonies and number countdown too? Send 'em here. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 03:32 PM Who are you talking about? Kong76 Nov 11 2008 03:39 PM The people who are in real pain over this, McFly. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 03:45 PM I'll leave it to them to specifically reply to you or not. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 03:50 PM If they're here (and I suspected they were) then you should have left them out of your poor defense to begin with and let them speak for themselves. You wiggled off like four hooks in this thread. G-Fafif Nov 11 2008 04:06 PM There is beauty, pain and joy in baseball. When they gut and pry apart where you experienced most of it, a person is likely to reflect on all three and feel, upon viewing the kinds of pictures in question, one of those sensations in particular. The beauty and the joy may have been carried out safely before MeiGray could sell them, but it is not surprising that the pain should linger and overshadow for many if not all across the duration of the demolition. Later? Who knows? We haven't been there yet. I suspect the beauty and the pain and the joy will coalesce into the warmer memories the magic of distance allows. Reality says somebody's doing a job in taking down Shea Stadium. Reality says the plan has been on the table long enough for everybody to adjust to the plan. But baseball and reality were never intended to mesh so easily. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 04:17 PM Eloquent as ever, and on topic. Bravo! themetfairy Nov 11 2008 04:29 PM ="KC":cumx5g68]If they're here (and I suspected they were) then you should have left them out of your poor defense to begin with and let them speak for themselves. You wiggled off like four hooks in this thread.[/quote:cumx5g68] Don't ask direct questions if you're not going to like the answers. What was I supposed to do? Ignore you? G-Fafif Nov 11 2008 04:32 PM ="KC":3vuetxpl]Eloquent as ever, and on topic. Bravo![/quote:3vuetxpl] Thanks much, but just throwing the last pitch of what TMF stated quite reasonably, I think...Benitez to the Fairy's Leiter, as it were. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 04:33 PM Thanks G. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 04:35 PM I disagree, I think she said something and then changed it to something else and then played on then something else. I have to stop, I'm gonna start getting PM's about causing waves in the bath tub. Frayed Knot Nov 11 2008 04:38 PM ="Edgy DC"] ="Frayed Knot"]I think we're starting to sound like the wound-lickers we used to make fun of; - oh no, this stadium is being destroyed worse than any other stadium in the history of destroyed stadiums - only the Mets could paint their foul lines crooked - why did Shea have to die so young? Wait a minute, that second one wuz you. Yes, but I was just noting the fact that they looked off via the angle in that aerial shot. What followed was a reply which stated that only the Mets could do something like that as if the new stadium really will have foul poles 150' from home plate on account of this organization being so incompetant that the thought of seeing where the lines actually lead hasn't yet occured to anyone during this whole multi-million dollar operation. I'd bring up the one post wondering if they really had to ruin the grass with all that machinery during the deconstruction but I don't think that one was totally serious (although I waver at times). G-Fafif Nov 11 2008 04:39 PM I find it way more upsetting that I posted my way up from Richie Hebner only to morph into Jerry DiPoto. Who ranks these things? Oh right. Us. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 04:46 PM ="KC":6z6ktyl3]I disagree, I think she said something and then changed it to something else and then played on then something else. I have to stop, I'm gonna start getting PM's about causing waves in the bath tub.[/quote:6z6ktyl3] I did nothing of the kind. I answered a question that you asked me. You chose not to like the answer. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 05:05 PM I ain't outlining it for you, and don't be so fucking snippy. You're not always right. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 05:07 PM I'm just playing defense here. I'm not the one accusing people of changing things around. Nor have I done or said anything that merits you swearing at me. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 05:16 PM I'm sorry, but you're just freakin' maddening sometimes. Poorly handled transition does not equal demolition. Go wiggle yourself. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 05:24 PM I never said it equaled demolition. I was talking about people's reactions to the demolition. And nothing I said justifies the kind of reaction you're having. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 05:33 PM No, your first response was about the closing ceremonies and the count down .... have you been drinking with cooby? I'm comfortable with my reaction for purposes of this thread and I apologize for cursing and that's all I have to say on the matter. C'mon, "go wiggle yourself" was pretty funny. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 05:43 PM No, I have not been drinking. This is what you consider an apology? I made a comment about the transition being handled poorly. You asked me to extrapolate. I did, and you reacted in a pretty hostile manner. If you don't like my opinion that's your prerogative. But you needn't go off like that just because you disagree with it. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 05:50 PM I apologized for cursing, that's it. Your reading comprehension skills are taking a beating in this thread. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 05:54 PM No. I'm simply taking a beating for not seeing an issue exactly the way that you do. Kong76 Nov 12 2008 04:20 AM A beating? If I was gonna get nasty I'd dig up a picture of you in a Phillies uniform and really stick it to you. I'm ultimately taking the beating when we argue because the bath house mentality of this board will almost always side with you. Mean ol' KC. *sigh* HahnSolo Nov 12 2008 06:42 AM Hi, I'm here for the "intelligent, lively and provocative discussion of the Mets, Ed Kranepool, and on a good day, the Ramones." Am I in the right place? Kong76 Nov 12 2008 06:58 AM seawolf17 Nov 12 2008 07:17 AM ="HahnSolo":3u9spspm]Hi, I'm here for the "intelligent, lively and provocative discussion of the Mets, Ed Kranepool, and on a good day, the Ramones." Am I in the right place?[/quote:3u9spspm] Eff that. I come here for the weekly KC/Scarlet fights. Edgy DC Nov 12 2008 07:35 AM I missed a GREAT NIGHT. Zvon Nov 12 2008 08:48 PM whats all this then....? Pages of posts but nary an image. Addressing the issue of pain... Some of us do feel pain in regard to Shea's demise. It's not even that bad. Its a pang....a feeling of remorse. It hurts on a level that's hard to express, and its a passing phase. Eventually this will be a thing of the past. Not yet though, seeing it being ripped down bit by bit, here and at other places as well. I have been going around and collecting pictures of Shea myself. Anything I come across. Early days,recent times,....even the demolition. So I bop in here and I see there have been additions to the Shea Photo thread, and I'm like, "Oh kool! Maybe its one I haven't seen. Hope its the older Shea...but any nice pic of Shea would be sweet to see..." I hope to see pictures of Shea in way of a recollection, an homage. That's just me though. Maybe there should be a seperate thread for Shea's demolition, ...I dunno. But it's really not a big deal. As you can see I'll still check out this thread, hoping for kool pics of Shea Stadium when it was in use. I've come across some really great Shea photos online recently, especially at Baseball Fever. Like this one. I am 95% positive that thats me running onto the field after game 5 of the '73 NLCS. Edgy DC Nov 12 2008 09:05 PM Classy look. Apparently, nobody was allowed in that day --- by law --- except 21-year-old white males with shoulder-length hair, workshirts, and bellbottoms. Zvon Nov 12 2008 09:15 PM ="Edgy DC":3fjgok91]Classy look. Apparently, nobody was allowed in that day --- by law --- except 21-year-old white males with shoulder-length hair, workshirts, and bellbottoms.[/quote:3fjgok91] Not so. I was 15. Kong76 Nov 13 2008 04:34 AM EDC: Classy look. Apparently, nobody was allowed in that day --- by law --- except 21-year-old white males with shoulder-length hair, workshirts, and bellbottoms ------------- I never noticed, but you're right. It looks like they just opened a gate for field level gen adm for a Deep Purple concert or something and all the guys are scrambling to get a good spot. Cool picture to be in. G-Fafif Nov 13 2008 05:42 AM It's fascinating, from a cultural perspective, to contrast the crowds storming the field images from '69 and '73. The tumult of the '60s may have waned away from the ballpark, but its remnants seem to have become codified in places that were largely shielded from change while change was at its most intense: like the ballpark. (Which is probably what pissed Dick Young off so.) It's often been said there was more of an edge to the '73 rushing of the field than '69's, for what that's worth. I don't remember the Orioles complaining they were frightened for their well-being the way the Reds did. That YouTube clip that MLB pulled earlier this year, the pregame show from Game Four of the '73 World Series, showed (to me anyway) what a different world we were living in versus four years earlier, not just in style but substance. If you recall, Kubek, Seaver and Hunter were all taking Charlie Finley to task for his handling of the Mike Andrews situation. Questioning authority, kind of a radical concept in establishment circles in 1969, was part of the polyester fabric of the game by 1973. Probably not a coincidence this was the same year as the Senate's Watergate hearings nor that within two weeks there would be such a backlash to the Saturday Night Massacre. soupcan Nov 14 2008 09:54 AM Latest shots from wcbs880 chopper... Field level is completely gone now. Here's some interesting stuff that I got from baseball fever. Shea Demolition Plans: Edgy DC Nov 14 2008 09:58 AM What's a "NON-BEARTING STRUCTURE"? Benjamin Grimm Nov 14 2008 10:00 AM Before anyone else beats me to it, let me just get this out of the way: It figures! The stupid Mets can't even get the spelling right! Willets Point Nov 14 2008 10:04 AM Question for Zvon. Is your shirt open showing your Siegfried & Roy hairless chest or were you wearing a fleshtone t-shirt? Zvon Nov 14 2008 01:26 PM ="Willets Point"]Question for Zvon. Is your shirt open showing your Siegfried & Roy hairless chest or were you wearing a fleshtone t-shirt? lol. I never went around displaying my slinky chest so I'm sure that's a T-shirt. Doubt it was fleshtone, probly orange. Thing is I'm not positive that's me. First time I saw the pic I looked right past that guy searching for me. Eventually I got back to him and thought that must be me. I have no recollection of what I wore that day. I do know I was a skinny guy with long hair who always wore white sneaks. If I had on a flannel shirt, which I wore often enough, it be rolled up at the sleeves. And the path I took puts me right about where that guy is. After that I ran to the edge of the home plate grass, stopped... saw that girl on the mound (looks like she's going for the rubber <[joke setup<]).. our eyes met...I ran to her on the mound and we did a Koosman/Grote type jump and hug. Twirled in a circle, split and ran in different directions. I never saw her again but I'll never forget that moment. Benjamin Grimm Nov 14 2008 01:27 PM I had no idea that Marlo Thomas was there that day! metirish Nov 14 2008 01:34 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Nov 14 2008 01:34 PM WOW , what a great picture , guy in the yellow shirt at second stands out and I count three suits that might be security , one to the right of yellow shirt and one to the left of Buddy and one n front of him. Edgy DC Nov 14 2008 01:34 PM That's a great story. How about Barry Gibb chicken dancing to your right? Zvon Nov 14 2008 01:37 PM ="Edgy DC":38ctzctd]That's a great story. How about Barry Gibb chicken dancing to your right?[/quote:38ctzctd] No hug for him. Zvon Nov 14 2008 02:31 PM The thing about storming (and that's a very apt description) of the field in '73, and why it did get out of control, was that every kid wanted to be part of that moment, to be part of the celebration like in '69. And as the game went on we all had the same idea : to get down to field level so it was possible. We did the same thing during game four. I ended up on the 1st base side then. Rose hit that extra inning homer and the celebration was over. I was right on the rail behind the added box on the 3rd base side late in game 5. The Reds families were sitting in them. Eventually the game was stopped and they were led out to the Reds bullpen for their safety. And it's not that we were bothering them personally in any way, shape or form (fans did taunt them when they were being led away though, lol). Its just that there was a sea of people behind them that became like one big giant swaying creature. We could not move independently, could hardly even breath. And you know what I did then? I jumped the rail into the make shift box. Like the Reds families I was a bit concerned for my safety. Unfortunately everyone along the rail ended up jumping into the box like lemmings. Again we became crammed. I saw the fans on the 1st base side did the same thing, but they were so packed in that the little wooden wall that enclosed the section collapsed, and they spilled out onto the field. The game had to be halted again. Tug was on the mound at this point. He was pissed off. I remember him approaching the pile of people waving his arms over and over in an upward motion as if to say EVERYONE! BACK UP AND INTO THE STANDS! It was pretty crazy. I got so sandwiched in the corner of the box that I felt that we were gonna burst out on this side too. I jumped out and went down into the Reds dugout. I was able to hide in plain sight there for quite a few minutes, sitting on a stool in the far corner of the dugout. Eventually a cop came up to me and asked what I was doing there. I told him...I was trying to stay alive, lol. He told me I had to stay alive back up in the stands. This was when I was shown on TV, when the cop was talking to me. (my parents and brothers got to see that from home. My bros thought it was the koolest thing, my folks were like wtf were you doing?). I've told this story before here (I have also mentioned looking for the footage of me on TV and it is nowhere to be found.) but I don't think I ever stressed the point that what happened occurred because too many kids had this dream of being in a '69 like celebration highlight reel. And what actually happened was we so embarrassed the team, the game, the city, that that footage will forever be locked away and forgotten. One of my best Shea memories though. A Boy Named Seo Nov 14 2008 02:40 PM I re-read that part about you being in the Reds dugout a couple times thinking I misread or misunderstood you. That's the craziest thing I've ever heard. Wild story, man. Thanks for sharing. dgwphotography Nov 15 2008 12:28 PM I think I'm one of the one's in real pain over this that TMF is referring to. The thing is not once has the countdown, the ceremonies, or anything that the Mets did or didn't do play a role in it. It is simply the fact that a place that has been a desired destination for me for over 35 years is no longer there. Shea is a place that I dreamed about visiting since my aunt gave me my first yearbook in 1972. It's the knowledge that I will never feel the attachment to the new place that I do to the old place. It's the fact that it was a home away from home of sorts - a place where I knew ever nook and cranny, where I knew where to get the best knishes, or the best dogs. A place that is home to so many memories. Whatever the Mets did or didn't do to mark this occasion plays no role in how I feel about it. Benjamin Grimm Nov 15 2008 01:43 PM I agree with that, except for the part about feeling real pain. I feel a touch of sadness, and a sense of loss, but I wouldn't call it pain. Kong76 Nov 15 2008 04:31 PM I'd like to get a copy of that CAD file with the non bearting typo. Hell, they show part of the guy's name and addy and it was easily discovered who and where he is. Maybe he's got a sense of humor and would leak one to us. Edgy DC Nov 15 2008 07:56 PM Scarsdale. Vic can take a short drive and knock on his door. cooby Nov 16 2008 08:19 PM Zvon, great picture, great stories! cooby Nov 16 2008 08:20 PM And what does "Non Bearting" mean? soupcan Nov 18 2008 11:01 AM All of these from baseball-fever.com Edgy DC Nov 18 2008 11:11 AM What? The auction house couldn't generate any action on the spongetech.com sign? Farmer Ted Nov 18 2008 11:17 AM Soup's top photo shows the location of our old seats. Crushing. Willets Point Nov 18 2008 11:25 AM ="Edgy DC":133d3wiq]What? The auction house couldn't generate any action on the spongetech.com sign?[/quote:133d3wiq] Maybe Bubba Sponge? Farmer Ted Nov 18 2008 11:31 AM Missed the Spongetech sign. Very sponge worthy. soupcan Nov 20 2008 10:01 AM More pictures available at nycsubway.org 9/1963 5/10/1964 8/1/1979 8/1/1979 Tiles removed between 1979 and 1980. 8/16/1980 9/24/2008 holychicken Nov 24 2008 09:01 AM Might be a bit late for this coming in after all of the destruction pics . . . but this is one of my favorite pictures of shea. It is my gf's younger sister. John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 24 2008 09:47 AM ="holychicken"]Might be a bit late for this coming in after all of the destruction pics . . . but this is one of my favorite pictures of shea. It is my gf's younger sister. Is she like, legal? holychicken Nov 24 2008 09:56 AM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":22rs38rb]Is she like, legal?[/quote:22rs38rb] Oh, I see. You see a dark-skinned person and immediately think "illegal immigrant." You should be ashamed! ehehhe SteveJRogers Nov 24 2008 11:37 AM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket"] ="holychicken"]Might be a bit late for this coming in after all of the destruction pics . . . but this is one of my favorite pictures of shea. It is my gf's younger sister. Is she like, legal? Uh, 'Bucket, aren't you very much attached at the moment? Now Chicken, I ask you the same question! Benjamin Grimm Nov 24 2008 11:39 AM I find it a little odd to be lusting after someone when all you know is the shape of her nose. Edgy DC Nov 24 2008 11:44 AM And which pores are and aren't corrupted. holychicken Nov 24 2008 12:06 PM Exactly. I didn't even post a picture of her most desirable body part, her posterior. Dear god, tell me my gf doesn't read this forum or she will surely whup me. seawolf17 Nov 24 2008 12:08 PM ="holychicken":21z05y4i]Exactly. I didn't even post a picture of her most desirable body part, her posterior. Dear god, tell me my gf doesn't read this forum or she will surely whup me.[/quote:21z05y4i] It's okay, you can still post it. We don't mind. Edgy DC Nov 24 2008 12:25 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Nov 24 2008 12:42 PM Butts, schmutz. Steve's a snot man. seawolf17 Nov 24 2008 12:38 PM ="Edgy DC":1hrzmxox]Butts, schmutz. Steve's a snot man.[/quote:1hrzmxox] Must be a Yankee fan thing. SteveJRogers Nov 24 2008 01:14 PM ="holychicken":26x42lii]Exactly. I didn't even post a picture of her most desirable body part, her posterior. Dear god, tell me my gf doesn't read this forum or she will surely whup me.[/quote:26x42lii] Geez, I was just following Bucket's lead. I mean I need some Met Chick love more than he does! soupcan Dec 04 2008 08:12 AM All from baseball-fever John Cougar Lunchbucket Dec 04 2008 08:18 AM Mike Mulligan always said his Steam Shovel could take down one stadium as fast as 100 men could in a day, although he was never quite sure of that. Benjamin Grimm Dec 04 2008 08:26 AM So now they're chewing away at the Loge level? Are they going to get to a point where there's just an unattached Upper Level (or Upper Tank as Keith Hernandez would call it) floating high in the air? soupcan Dec 04 2008 08:28 AM Yeah that's weird isn't it? You'd think they'd go top to bottom rather than the other way around. I'd like to think that they are professional demolishers and know what they are doing rather than they might just be stupid. Edgy DC Dec 04 2008 09:21 AM I don't know. These two guys aren't winning any smart awards with me right now. << dgwphotography Dec 04 2008 10:58 AM ="soupcan"] Zvon - is it me, or does this look tone-mapped? It looks like it has that HDR glow to it... HahnSolo Dec 04 2008 11:21 AM ="Edgy DC":2sv0q5gv] I don't know. These two guys aren't winning any smart awards with me right now. << [/quote:2sv0q5gv] Those two guys are still waiting for their hot pretzel ordered at the last home game. G-Fafif Dec 04 2008 12:30 PM Talk about your stiff Breezes playing havoc with Shea's outfield. Valadius Dec 04 2008 02:00 PM Part of me is rooting to see the picture of them ripping down that Fox News sign. Edgy DC Dec 04 2008 02:14 PM You strike me as somewhat partisan. Am I right? soupcan Dec 04 2008 02:17 PM Who Vlad? Nah - he's as fair and balanced as they come. Kong76 Dec 04 2008 03:45 PM I sent those latest photos to a friend of mine. He wrote back that he thought they were building a new stadium and not just fixing up Shea and slappin' on a new coat of paint like in years gone by. Chucklehead. Zvon Dec 04 2008 04:57 PM ="Iubitul"] ="soupcan"] Zvon - is it me, or does this look tone-mapped? It looks like it has that HDR glow to it... Yes. Especially in comparison with the others. It does bring the shaded areas out. Zvon Dec 04 2008 05:02 PM I wish they would get this over with. How are they gonna take down the highest heights sans demolition? themetfairy Dec 04 2008 05:12 PM It may take a while. I remember Old Comiskey Park was in a state of partial demolition when we visited New Comiskey in August of 1991. Kong76 Dec 04 2008 05:22 PM Z: How are they gonna take down the highest heights sans demolition? <=== Cranes and stuff, and how is what they've been doing not demolition? Kong76 Dec 04 2008 05:52 PM tmf: It may take a while. <=== They don't really have much time if they plan to level the joint and make it a parking lot. My guess is they'll finish well before opening day. I don't want to get into union contracts twice tonight, but they make it worth it to finish on time so there's no lolligaggin' nowadays. Zvon Dec 05 2008 03:10 PM ="KC":21ab889l]Cranes and stuff, and how is what they've been doing not demolition?[/quote:21ab889l] Sorry. I meant the usage of explosive charges. Kong76 Dec 05 2008 03:42 PM I figured, I was just goofin'. soupcan Dec 09 2008 08:13 AM Upper deck wrecking ball. BAM! Benjamin Grimm Dec 09 2008 08:32 AM They should have painted the wrecking ball to look like a baseball. metirish Dec 09 2008 08:33 AM That would have been really taking the piss on those that see that as a sad event. Benjamin Grimm Dec 09 2008 08:37 AM It would be a nod to tradition. It's what they did with the Ebbets Field wrecking ball. The same ball was used a few years later on the Polo Grounds: Benjamin Grimm Dec 09 2008 08:50 AM Cincinnati's Crosley Field too! soupcan Dec 13 2008 02:19 PM Wow - now I'm even starting to have a hard time looking... baseball-fever.com Benjamin Grimm Dec 13 2008 02:36 PM Yikes. Edgy DC Dec 13 2008 02:55 PM GYAH! Kong76 Dec 13 2008 07:10 PM They didn't sell the panels depicting the leap and Seaver's head? Edgy DC Dec 13 2008 07:23 PM It looks like the terrorist hit we were praying wouldn't happen actually did. Kong76 Dec 13 2008 07:44 PM Fuck terrorists, an accidental plane crash on a foggy evening in the wrong flight path was what I thought mighta happened one day. *62 Dec 14 2008 12:56 PM The pictures may be gruesome but the Stadium has overstayed its welcome. I may miss living in Brooklyn desperately, but 3,000 sq. ft. is way better than 920. Edgy DC Dec 14 2008 05:11 PM I don't get the reference. *62 Dec 14 2008 05:39 PM I love Shea for lots of reasons, and will miss it some ..... but it's a dump. Better? Edgy DC Dec 14 2008 05:53 PM I thought those numbers referred to something. Rockin' Doc Dec 14 2008 06:57 PM I think *62 lives in Florida if my memory is correct. He apparently once lived in Brooklyn and apparently hung out at Shea quite a bit in the past. I think he was stating that he missed living in Brooklyn, but preferred the 3000 sq. ft. of living space he can now afford over the 920 sq. ft. of living space he had in Brooklyn. Living in the south and comparing costs for homes with my friends and relatives relatives that live near the city, I understand what he is referring too. Then again, maybe I miss interpreted the meaning of his post. Either way, it's nice to have *62 posting here again. I hope he hangs around. soupcan Dec 16 2008 01:42 PM StadiumPage.com Benjamin Grimm Dec 16 2008 02:04 PM It's amazing that just ten weeks ago it was still full of color and people and noise. soupcan Dec 18 2008 07:45 PM soupcan Dec 29 2008 07:51 AM soupcan Jan 05 2009 12:40 PM G-Fafif Jan 05 2009 12:52 PM Impressive Photoshopping, Soup. Quite interesting to see what Shea Stadium would look like if somebody went mad and started to tear it down. If it wouldn't be too much trouble, please put Shea back together again. Thank you. batmagadanleadoff Jan 05 2009 01:18 PM ="soupcan"]http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q308/soupcan11/shea5-1.jpg That neon batter just reminded me of Gary Carter' follow through, particularly the way Gary would take an inside pitch and line drive one-bounce it to the outfielder for a single. Are there any other Mets that the neon hitter resembles? Edgy DC Jan 05 2009 02:35 PM Looks kind of slender for Carter. It also looks like a guy going to right, while Carter more typically pulled. metirish Jan 13 2009 01:35 PM from 01/10/2009 metsguyinmichigan Jan 13 2009 02:35 PM They're not saving any of the neon players? I know they're huge. but heck, they could slice them up and sell them for $10 a foot to geeks like me! Zvon Jan 13 2009 02:58 PM ="metsguyinmichigan":8phckkps]They're not saving any of the neon players? I know they're huge. but heck, they could slice them up and sell them for $10 a foot to geeks like me![/quote:8phckkps] Why sell just their feet? John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 13 2009 04:19 PM wham G-Fafif Jan 13 2009 04:53 PM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":1virpusd]wham[/quote:1virpusd] "Wake Me Up Before You Go Go" vs. "Baby I'm Your Man" Whoops...wrong thread. metirish Jan 15 2009 08:00 AM Newsday today has a classic Shea pictures collection. Die-hard fans dance in the aisles at 1:50 a.m. during the 21st inning of a 25-inning marathon game between the Mets and the Cardinals at Shea Stadium. (AP Photo / September 12, 1974) A view of Shea Stadium during the national anthem before a New York Mets-Los Angeles Dodgers game in 1973. (AP Photo / June 9, 1973) Fans rush onto the field and players celebrate after the Mets defeated the Baltimore Orioles to win the 1969 World Series. (AP Photo / October 16, 1969 A view of Shea Stadium after after souvenir-hunting fans ripped up the sod following the Mets' victory in the 1969 World Series. (AP Photo / October 16, 1969) Pirates first baseman Willie Stargell waves to the crowd at Shea Stadium during Willie Stargell Night at Shea. The man at left wiping his eye is Nelson Doubleday, Mets chairman of the board. (Newsday / Paul J. Bereswill / September 27, 1982 The new owners of the Mets pose at Shea Stadium. From left: Stephen E. O'Neil, president of City Investing Company; Nelson Doubleday, president of Doubleday Co.; Fred Wilpon, Chairman of the Board of Sterling Equities and John O. Pickett, owner of the NHL New York Islanders, who was instrumental in setting up the sale of the team. Pickett was not listed as an owner of the club. (AP File Photo / January 25, 1980) Car fire involving several cars in the Shea Stadium parking lot during a game in 2002. (AP Photo / April 27, 2002) Workers Angelo DiMaria, left, and Dominico Bannezo clean off old paint and rust as they get Shea Stadium ready for Opening Day in 2001. (Newsdya / J. Conrad Williams Jr / March 28, 2001) > soupcan Jan 15 2009 08:09 AM Amazing how much Jeff looks like his dad used to. Even down to the bad hairdo. ="metirish"] Edgy DC Jan 15 2009 08:10 AM Car Fire Day: Best. Promotion. Ever. HahnSolo Jan 15 2009 08:36 AM I miss crazy old Uncle Nelson. soupcan Jan 15 2009 08:39 AM Pop Quiz - without looking it up, how much did Nelson & Jeff pay for the Mets in 1980. If I remember right, I think it was $20 million. Farmer Ted Jan 15 2009 08:45 AM I only recall $350 million or so to finally kick Doubleday to the curb in '02. Edgy DC Jan 15 2009 09:02 AM Who pitched on Car Fire Day? metirish Jan 15 2009 09:07 AM ="Edgy DC":kdd41i0v]Who pitched on Car Fire Day?[/quote:kdd41i0v] I remember that game , I should say I remember it from watching it on TV and the announcers talking about the fire in the parking lot and showing it. I'll guess that Steve Trachsel pitched . John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 15 2009 09:14 AM ="soupcan":sgwypaic]Pop Quiz - without looking it up, how much did Nelson & Jeff pay for the Mets in 1980. If I remember right, I think it was $20 million.[/quote:sgwypaic] For some reason $21 million is the number I remember but geez. Edgy DC Jan 15 2009 09:14 AM Pedro Pistacio took a no-hiiter into the seventh the day after a crisp one-hitter by Testes. It was game two of a three-game sweep over Milwaukee and, for a minute there, it looked like the 2002 Mets had scrapped together a winning rotation of Leiter-Estes-Astacio-D'Amico-Trachsel. That plan blew up in the parking lot like so many SUVs. Edgy DC Jan 15 2009 09:15 AM Is that logo stitched together? It acually looks like a giant shoulder patch. soupcan Jan 15 2009 09:16 AM D'Amico. I had high hopes for him. soupcan Jan 15 2009 09:17 AM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":esm8z809]For some reason $21 million is the number I remember but geez.[/quote:esm8z809] I think you're right. dgwphotography Jan 15 2009 11:19 AM ="batmagadanleadoff"] ="soupcan"] That neon batter just reminded me of Gary Carter' follow through, particularly the way Gary would take an inside pitch and line drive one-bounce it to the outfielder for a single. Are there any other Mets that the neon hitter resembles? flip it around, and it's Mex. attgig Jan 15 2009 12:16 PM ="metirish"] Fans rush onto the field and players celebrate after the Mets defeated the Baltimore Orioles to win the 1969 World Series. (AP Photo / October 16, 1969 > i wonder if that will ever be allowed in pro sports. when did that stop? it's only on college that you see fans rushing the field. why is that? Edgy DC Jan 15 2009 12:19 PM Because student athletes don't need/demand protection from the masses the way millionnaire atheletes do. Why is the cop screening home plate doing the time warp? metirish Jan 15 2009 12:23 PM How about the guy down the RF line jumping from the stands? Benjamin Grimm Jan 15 2009 12:23 PM I think it stopped in 1986, at least in New York. The fans rushed the field after the division clincher, but the mounted cops prevented it in the World Series. I think, though, that the Phillies had the cops on horseback for the 1980 World Series. John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 17 2009 12:20 PM I went out there this morning, photos on facebook. Here's a vid shot as the 7 train arrives in Willets Pt. metirish Jan 17 2009 01:59 PM Great pictures btw. soupcan Jan 18 2009 01:53 PM These are from baseballfever... Kong76 Jan 18 2009 02:08 PM Even dollar cost averaging down to ~ 7 1/2, that sums up my Citigroup stock feelings. I've been somewhat unaffected by most of the images, but this one is particularly eerie to me: Kong76 Jan 18 2009 02:10 PM I know the home opener is late this year, but are they really gonna have the ol' girl completely gone by then and a parking lot installed? I thought they'd be more far along. Benjamin Grimm Jan 18 2009 03:30 PM I'm not sure they have to. The existing parking lot served Shea for the last few years, and Shea held more fans than Citi will. Kong76 Jan 18 2009 03:37 PM I don't mean they have to, I just thought that was the plan. Since groundbreaking, parking there has been a pain in the neck and I took the train mostly to games. I like to tailgate, plan on doing it a lot this year, and it's easier to do with a car. John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 18 2009 04:26 PM ="Kong76":3gm6qt5k]I know the home opener is late this year, but are they really gonna have the ol' girl completely gone by then and a parking lot installed? I thought they'd be more far along.[/quote:3gm6qt5k] Official plan is the last bits of Shea are to be disappeared by June 30. Those photos put mine to shame! metirish Jan 23 2009 02:23 PM Vince Coleman Firecracker Jan 23 2009 02:43 PM An auto body shop in a Quonset hut. Fantastic. Willets Point Jan 23 2009 02:44 PM I've got dibs on "City * Field * Collision" as my band's name. Frayed Knot Jan 24 2009 11:28 AM The ends of the horseshoe are starting to disappear http://www.wfan.com/pages/3706726.php?imageGalleryXRefId=907755#imgXR http://www.wfan.com/pages/3706726.php?imageGalleryXRefId=907756#imgXR G-Fafif Jan 24 2009 11:53 AM It's a stump, but it's our stump. dgwphotography Jan 24 2009 01:07 PM soupcan Jan 26 2009 12:33 PM More at stadiumpage.com Frayed Knot Jan 26 2009 12:56 PM btw, Harvey Araton tees off the Yanx in a piece in Sunday's NYTimes. Specifically it's the sweet time they're taking in getting rid of the old park even though the new one is nearly finished and that the whole deal was based on trading stadium space for park land, park land that now seems destined for 2011 at the earliest. Their answer as to when they'll get around to even starting deconstruction is essentially "when we fuckin' get around to it - now go away and stop bothering us", even as they had no problem making a public spectacle about marching their offices across to the new digs the street last week. "Mayor Bloomberg, tear down this stadium" metirish Jan 26 2009 01:16 PM The arrogance of all involved is sickening , how I despise all things Yankees. SteveJRogers Jan 26 2009 02:14 PM Supposedly they are going to use YSII for a movie production, plus the plan was that either the Mets or Yankees would use YSII to play games if either Citi Field or YSIII weren't ready come April. So despite the arrogance, there really are valid reasons why it is still up. Frayed Knot Jan 26 2009 02:36 PM Even if using YSII was the on-paper 'just-in-case' backup plan in the event that some wild mishap went on with the construction of either of the new stadiums the virtually ZERO chance such a plan would ever be put into place has now shrunk to roughly that of the Lions being put into next week's Super Bowl were a case of bubonic plague to sweep through either the Steeler or Cardinal camp. And, as the article mentions, they've yet to even select a company that would do the deconstruction or set a date as to when it might start. So the reason it's not only still up but will be so for at least another year has everything to do with the fact that they haven't finished milking the old girl for every cent she's worth and if that means that the city that just re-re-issued more tax-free bonds as the price climbed over a billion dollars and the local kids in the neighborhood they claim to care so much for (whenever they weren't threatening to leave that is) go without a public park for the next few years well then that's none of their damn business. metirish Jan 28 2009 08:10 PM New York Times ] In Dead of Winter, Shea Stadium Is Melting Away By KEN BELSON Published: January 28, 2009 With each passing day, Shea Stadium, the home of the Mets since 1964, fades further from Citi Field, the team�s new home. In the last few weeks, demolition crews have been ripping down entire sections of Shea from both ends of the outfield decks toward its middle. What was once a semi-enclosed bowl with 57,000 seats is now a skeleton of a grandstand. In the first weeks after the Mets finished their final season at Shea (with another desultory loss that knocked them out of playoff contention), crews removed the seats, signs and anything else that could be sold to collectors or reused in city parks. Then demolition crews started knocking out the field level and the concrete decks that made up the loge and the mezzanine. But the structure of the stadium, built for nearly $30 million, was largely intact. Not so anymore. Since the beginning of the year, crews have clawed away at Shea�s walls and beams, exposing escalators, elevator banks and air ducts. The stands above Gates A and E have vanished and parts of the neon players that adorned the outside of the stadium are gone, too. Twelve sections of the upper deck still have their concrete floors, but the other sections that remain are outlined only by their steel beams. Unlike stadiums in other cities that have been imploded, Shea had to be taken down piece by piece because of building codes. The rat-a-tat-tat of the construction machinery drowned out the noise of the jets taking off from LaGuardia Airport. Tarps on chain link fences say �Almost Home,� a reference to the soon-to-be-opened Citi Field, but also the six-month process of erasing Shea. In all, nearly 10,000 tons of steel and another 2,500 tons of concrete will be pulled out of Shea. Some of the concrete will be ground up and reused as the base material for the parking lot that will be installed in its place. The lot will include space for 2,000 cars and signs marking where home plate and the pitcher�s mound once were. Team representatives said that the demolition will be completed some time in the coming weeks, which is not hard to imagine. On Wednesday, lines of dump trucks made their way onto what was once the outfield, weaving around piles of crumpled metal and concrete covered in snow. Several Web sites have sprung up that have chronicled the destruction of the place where Seaver once threw, Piazza once squatted and the Stork, George Theodore, once roamed. In a way, the sites are a testament to the morbid curiosity of Mets fans, who have endured many morbid Mets teams. �It�s interesting how they are doing it piece by piece,� said Eric Okurowski, a 31-year master�s candidate and a life-long Met fan from Babylon, N.Y., who runs stadiumpage.com. �Most old stadia are blown up and it takes just a few seconds. It�s pretty interesting seeing it come apart in pieces over the course of four months.� Okurowski and several other die-hard fans are organizing a final farewell at Shea at noon Saturday to share stories and take photographs of what is left of the ballpark. As Shea diminishes, Citi Field emerges. While less imposing than Shea, the new stadium, at least from the outside, has an elegance that Shea lacked. Instead of the lattice of concrete ramps that constituted Shea�s exterior, Citi Field is covered in brick and punctuated with arches and an entrance rotunda. Flood lights highlight the outside while klieg lights illuminate what is left of Shea. More Articles in Sports �A version of this article appeared in print on January 29, 2009, on page B18 of the New York edition. apmorris Jan 29 2009 04:58 PM ="metirish"]New York Times ] Okurowski and several other die-hard fans are organizing a final farewell at Shea at noon Saturday to share stories and take photographs of what is left of the ballpark. Anyone going? (bring a camera) metirish Jan 29 2009 05:28 PM People are going http://www.faithandfearinflushing.com/ G-Fafif Jan 30 2009 03:38 PM Damn, dirty apes... apmorris Jan 30 2009 04:43 PM ="G-Fafif"]Damn, dirty apes... Awesomenessness Kong76 Jan 30 2009 07:24 PM Classic pic. dgwphotography Jan 31 2009 05:41 AM that's just brilliant. Benjamin Grimm Jan 31 2009 05:44 AM That really is brilliant. metirish Jan 31 2009 05:47 AM Yeah it's very clever. themetfairy Jan 31 2009 06:19 AM It's just a model.... batmagadanleadoff Jan 31 2009 04:06 PM I'm guessing that the picture has something to do with the Statue Liberty finale in Planet of.... But that picture never came up on my browser. Not today. Not yesterday. Benjamin Grimm Jan 31 2009 04:14 PM Me neither. I had to right click, select "Copy Location" and paste the following in my browser: http://faithandfear.blogharbor.com/_photos/heston.jpg Edgy DC Feb 02 2009 07:05 AM You MANIACS! soupcan Feb 05 2009 07:11 AM From stadiumpage.com Just a matter of time now.... Benjamin Grimm Feb 05 2009 08:06 AM It's starting to look more like the grandstand you'd see at a race track. Frayed Knot Feb 05 2009 08:11 AM Never can say goodbye No no no no, I Never can say goodbye Even though the pain and heartache Seems to follow me wherever I go Though I try and try to hide my feelings They always seem to show Then you try to say you're leaving me And I always have to say no... Tell me why Is it so That I ... Never can say goodbye No no no no, I Never can say goodbye Evertime I think I had enough I start heading for the door There's a very strange vibration That pierces me right to the core It says turn around you fool You know you love her more and more Tell me why Is it so Don't wanna let yo go I never can say goodbye soupcan Feb 06 2009 10:55 AM These are from wcbs880.com. And there are a few more there as well. G-Fafif Feb 08 2009 03:10 PM Shea among the ruins... Kong76 Feb 08 2009 03:47 PM I called KB over and asked if she wanted to see an eerie picture on my laptop and she saw this and started bawling. "That's all that's left? When was that picture taken?" "Uh, I guess last time it snowed." ... (I'm obnoxious in real life too) and I told her this is like a 25 page thread of the destruction of Shea and we started talking about our Moms and games and tailgates and she got me all throaty too and crying and screw you all but ok I admit that it's hard to see the old thing disappear and I've been suppressing the sadness. There, I said it. dgwphotography Feb 09 2009 07:41 AM the first time we go there this year will be a shock. Edgy DC Feb 09 2009 07:50 AM We should go and have a tribute concert in the parking lot. G-Fafif Feb 09 2009 10:37 AM ="Kong76":1akaid2f]I called KB over and asked if she wanted to see an eerie picture on my laptop and she saw this and started bawling.[/quote:1akaid2f] My wife, who worked downtown throughout the fall of 2001, invoked Ground Zero in terms of what it reminded her of looking at. soupcan Feb 13 2009 10:09 AM Another from baseballfever.com metirish Feb 13 2009 10:27 AM Great pictures over there...taken this morning from the #7 train Benjamin Grimm Feb 13 2009 10:48 AM They should leave that last chunk in place. smg58 Feb 13 2009 12:34 PM I drove past it the other day. It's really sad to see it. soupcan Feb 14 2009 07:21 AM I'm at LaGuardia waiting for a flight. Drove past Citi and Shea. Shea looks so sad and insignificant. I'm excited and wistful at the same time. cooby Feb 14 2009 08:22 AM Please, check for ice and geese. Not joking. soupcan Feb 14 2009 08:38 AM We're flying Continental - what could go wrong? dgwphotography Feb 14 2009 09:44 AM ="metirish"] It's fitting that that's the last piece left... Frayed Knot Feb 14 2009 09:49 AM Think of it as an image of Koosman throwing the final pitch of the '69 WS. It could be Orosco/'86 too but it looks more like Koosman. dgwphotography Feb 14 2009 09:51 AM hmmmm.... I always saw Matlack in that image... dgwphotography Feb 14 2009 09:57 AM ="Iubitul"]hmmmm.... I always saw Matlack in that image... Actually, no. Bob Ojeda. SteveJRogers Feb 14 2009 11:49 AM ="Iubitul"] ="Iubitul"]hmmmm.... I always saw Matlack in that image... Actually, no. Bob Ojeda. What is that watermark on the other side of the card top? A Boy Named Seo Feb 14 2009 11:58 AM ="metirish"]Great pictures over there...taken this morning from the #7 train Nice pic, Irish. Poor, little Shea getting swallowed up by Citi on both sides. Kong76 Feb 15 2009 01:46 PM We took a ride out there today. We packed up a camera, a couple of Heineken keg cans (KB drove) and set out. I was kind of emotional getting ready but by the time we were in the car and on our way I was kinda excited. There were a bunch of people milling about doing the same thing we were and while I didn't talk to anyone we all smiled and nodded to each other like we got it. What we really should have done was cooked a few hot dogs one more time but the beer was enough I guess to count as a tailgate of sorts. The pictures posted all over the internet get redundant after awhile I suppose, but I got a few unique images. metirish Feb 15 2009 02:20 PM Great pictures , thanks. themetfairy Feb 15 2009 03:08 PM Nice shots Kase! LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Feb 15 2009 05:20 PM Thanks, sir. Beautiful and gut-wrenching. (All in all, this offseason's been like a months-long wake... except one where the guests take parts of the deceased with them as souvenirs.) A Boy Named Seo Feb 15 2009 05:30 PM Great shots, man. Love the one of you raising your can of Heiny in salutation. holychicken Feb 15 2009 05:49 PM Whoa, crazy, KC. I was there today too and took some very similar pictures. I was the jackass with my little brown dog off the leash. He was very happy to be out running about like that. Edgy DC Feb 15 2009 06:01 PM Should have a concert out there. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Feb 15 2009 06:05 PM Or an Irish wake? -Loading up on Jameson fifths/Cueing up "Body of an American" on the iPods. Kong76 Feb 15 2009 06:13 PM holyc: I was the jackass with my little brown dog off the leash <<< I didn't see any little brown pups running about. It's funny, but I really thought I'd run into at least one Mets' fan I knew out there. Running into you woulda been cool and we coulda done a Heiny. holychicken Feb 15 2009 07:42 PM Yeah, I figured there would be no one there but the when I saw the number of people there I figured I would see someone I knew. I checked everyone saw there, but didn't recognize anyone as well. I figured my dog would have stuck out tho more than me DocTee Feb 15 2009 08:27 PM Cool pics, thanks for sharing them. Did you pour some of that Heiny on the ground, ghetto style, to remember Shea, your fallen friend? Kong76 Feb 16 2009 01:11 PM Tee: Did you pour some of that Heiny on the ground <<< I have to confess that I did deposit some used Heiny behind some construction materials. Edgy DC Feb 16 2009 01:13 PM I'm going to guess you haven't puked at Shea since October 12, 1982. Kong76 Feb 16 2009 06:24 PM I had to google the date but I didn't yak that night. John Cougar Lunchbucket Feb 17 2009 09:25 AM Nice shotz guys. ah, screw it. Zvon Feb 17 2009 12:28 PM ="SteveJRogers"] ="Iubitul"] ="Iubitul"]hmmmm.... I always saw Matlack in that image... Actually, no. Bob Ojeda. What is that watermark on the other side of the card top? That's the Desert Storm logo/thing they added to sets of cards for the troops overseas back in the day. themetfairy Feb 17 2009 02:00 PM Zvon! How have you been? attgig Feb 17 2009 03:53 PM http://twitpic.com/photos/bluenautica one last piece remaining. Frayed Knot Feb 18 2009 11:14 AM Last piece down (video available via Newsday's main sports page) It's all over but the sweeping. soupcan Feb 24 2009 08:02 AM These I guess are almost a week old. From http://www.stadiumpage.com Edgy DC Feb 24 2009 08:14 AM To heck with your copyright, Gary. soupcan Feb 24 2009 08:32 AM 'Zactly. Zvon Feb 24 2009 02:38 PM ="Edgy DC":33njl1ow]To heck with your copyright, Gary.[/quote:33njl1ow] I'll photoshop that out. Shhhh. holychicken Feb 24 2009 03:59 PM ="Zvon":13ygrx4a] ="Edgy DC":13ygrx4a]To heck with your copyright, Gary.[/quote:13ygrx4a] I'll photoshop that out. Shhhh.[/quote:13ygrx4a] Simple crop job ought to do. Edgy DC Mar 16 2009 02:56 PM Mini-Shea ripped up from the ground. http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/03/16/you-too-can-own-a-piece-of-the-mini-city/ Farmer Ted Mar 16 2009 03:14 PM They couldn't save those two satellite dishes? Coulda saved me a few bucks with DirecTV.

[Guest themetfairy]

Tom Seaver and Mr. Met revealing Number 1 -

[Guest themetfairy]

="G-Fafif"]Leiter had a little grin when the boos came. He knew what it was about. Funny how comfortable he seemed slipping back into his Met persona -- just as comfortable as he was dishing/ripping management the next day. That's Al. Foster being booed was both wrong and, if you take common decency out of the equation, almost appropriate. You want to celebrate Met tradition? In the '80s, he was traditionally booed (not by me, but I was outnumbered). I was mildly disappointed on '86 reunion night that Doug Sisk was applauded. It's half a miracle that everything and everybody wasn't booed after the way Sunday's game ended and the long wait to get things going ceremonially speaking. What was with those frigging sandwich boards in the outfield? Make 'em just so! Then ignore 'em!

Even Mr. Met was booed when he took down Number 1 to reveal this -

[Gwreck]

People weren't booing Mr. Met.

They were booing Citi Field.

[Guest Kong76]

Agreed, it was obnoxious that a zero wasn't there and that stupid logo was.

[Guest themetfairy]

="Gwreck":3rrhrm7m]People weren't booing Mr. Met. They were booing Citi Field.[/quote:3rrhrm7m] True.

batmagadanleadoff Sep 30 2008 08:04 PM

="themetfairy":1vx5k0gu]Note how the players were wearing uniforms that corresponded with the eras when they played.[/quote:1vx5k0gu] I was pleasantly surprised to see this. The Mets are more likely than not to cheap it up one way or another with these kind of ceremonies. Do you remember one particular '69 Mets reunion Old Timers Game? The players were given trucker style baseball caps. It appears though, that they incorrectly gave Willie Mays the same flannelly jersey the '60's Mets wore. In 1972, the Mets had switched to the modern stretch polyester uniform fabric. Mays never wore the flannelly Mets uniform. I'm going by memory here, but Mays would've been the only invitee that should've worn the polyestery 72-77 uniform. Dave Kingman, for example, had a second stint as a Met in the early '80's, and was given the two button uni that the Mets wore during their bad period. Other polyester 72-77 Mets, like Cleon and Garrett and Seaver and Yogi were also Mets before 1972, and so were able to wear the flannel '60's without violating the accuracy of the presentation. Was this an oversight or did the Mets cheap it up on grounds that it wasn't cost efficient (by what -- a hundred bucks?) to produce just one 72-77 uni? I also noticed that the only '90's Mets invited were also associated with the 2000 pennant winners. There were no pure '90's Mets present. (Edgardo Alfonzo, for example, was primarily a '90's Met, but not exclusively). Nobody there wore the button down racing stripes of 91-92 or the underlined Mets unis of 93-94. Nobody there wore my all time favorite Met unis, the 95-97 unis. Personally, I would have liked to see Anthony Young, among many many others, take a bow, just for the irony of it. [u:1vx5k0gu]On Edit[/u:1vx5k0gu]: Felix Millan belonged in a 72-77 poly uni. Does anyone remember which uni he wore during the ceremonies? SteveJRogers Sep 30 2008 08:14 PM I thought they should have had Franco represent that entire bridge between the 86ers and the Piazza era by wearing the 1986 style jersey and his old 31. For one as bml said, there was no onelse representing that era, and it really was Franco's peak as a Met closer. Hell, he had lost his closing job by the time 1999 rolled around. Thought it was slightly strange to see Foster in the 1982 style as that was the only year he wore them as a Met. Though it probably doesn't fit him anymore, it was nice to see Ed Kranepool don a jersey other than the last one he ever wore as a Met. I mean he was still wearing that yellowed 1979 home jersey during the 1994 1969 tribute! Speaking of 1969. Next year, 40th Anniversary, boy it will be weird seeing them celebrate it when the place where so many of those great moments will be a parking lot. FWIW since 1988 was never recognized, despite 1973 being honored at all the big milestone years, I guess the 99-00 squad will get a nice big combo bash (I hope anyway, it'd be the only way John Olerud returns) in 2010 for their ten year anniversary of the NL Champs. batmagadanleadoff Sep 30 2008 08:16 PM Franco debuted as a Met in 1990. Why would he wear an '86 jersey? Do you think that the actual '86 Mets would want this? This makes no sense. seawolf17 Sep 30 2008 08:21 PM What "pure 90s" Mets would you have wanted there? Bonilla? Jeff Kent? Vince Coleman? Those teams kinda sucked. Maybe Bernard Gilkey or Charlie O would have been cool. I'd vote for Pete Harnisch, but that's just my personal bias. John Cougar Lunchbucket Sep 30 2008 08:24 PM I always thought Butch Huskey was kinda Metly and 90sish. batmagadanleadoff Sep 30 2008 08:27 PM I'm not hung up at all on the idea that pure '90's Mets needed to be invited. I was only noticing though. But since you asked, Olerud for sure. I already mentioned Anthony Young. Todd Hundley. (Was there an issue with Hundley? Maybe he was invited but couldn't attend. I can't remember.) I liked Saberhagen a lot even though he was a bit of an asshole. You can't hold it against any Mets that their teams sucked. Otherwise, most of the invitees would've had to have been uninvited. SteveJRogers Sep 30 2008 08:37 PM ="batmagadanleadoff":1rti000y]Franco debuted as a Met in 1990. Why would he wear an '86 jersey? Do you think that the actual '86 Mets would want this? This makes no sense.[/quote:1rti000y] 1986 style, eh save for the change in pullover to button down and stitched on lettering instead of a nameplate for the NOB remained through 1992. While I agree that the style that came after the tail and before the black shadow and the snow white tops was a great style, Franco really wasn't Franco during those years. batmagadanleadoff Sep 30 2008 08:43 PM ="SteveJRogers":2b4tvqa5] ="batmagadanleadoff":2b4tvqa5]Franco debuted as a Met in 1990. Why would he wear an '86 jersey? Do you think that the actual '86 Mets would want this? This makes no sense.[/quote:2b4tvqa5] 1986 style, eh save for the change in pullover to button down and stitched on lettering instead of a nameplate for the NOB [/quote:2b4tvqa5] You forgot the anniversary patch the 86 Mets wore. That's what mainly distinguished the 86 uni from the 90 uni. You're right about the stitched on lettering, though. If you wanna get hyper technical, the 1990 unis had the Rawlings logo on the right sleeve. The 86 unis had no Mfr. logo on the sleeves. Frayed Knot Sep 30 2008 08:43 PM The more I read this board the more I realize that virtually everyone knows and cares about uniforms A LOT more than I do. SteveJRogers Sep 30 2008 08:48 PM ="seawolf17":19bd7ajf]What "pure 90s" Mets would you have wanted there? Bonilla? Jeff Kent? Vince Coleman? Those teams kinda sucked. Maybe Bernard Gilkey or Charlie O would have been cool. I'd vote for Pete Harnisch, but that's just my personal bias.[/quote:19bd7ajf] Hmmm, not saying I'd want them there, just saying it is odd to see Franco as a representative of the 1998-2001 Mets with Piazza, Zeile, Leiter, Ventura and Alfonzo. Granted he was there, and was the "captain" but I prefer remembering Franco with his # 31 jersey during the "Worst Team Money Can Buy" era. Put it this way, it would be exactly like seeing Kranepool in a replica of his 1979 home jersey out there. Just doesn't seem right even though he was there. SteveJRogers Sep 30 2008 08:52 PM ="batmagadanleadoff":3fgsp7nc] ="SteveJRogers":3fgsp7nc] ="batmagadanleadoff":3fgsp7nc]Franco debuted as a Met in 1990. Why would he wear an '86 jersey? Do you think that the actual '86 Mets would want this? This makes no sense.[/quote:3fgsp7nc] 1986 style, eh save for the change in pullover to button down and stitched on lettering instead of a nameplate for the NOB [/quote:3fgsp7nc] You forgot the anniversary patch the 86 Mets wore. That's what mainly distinguished the 86 uni from the 90 uni. You're right about the stitched on lettering, though. If you wanna get hyper technical, the 1990 unis had the Rawlings logo on the right sleeve. The 86 unis had no Mfr. logo on the sleeves.[/quote:3fgsp7nc] I didn't notice that the versions of the unis the 86ers were wearing out there had the actual 1986 jersey patch. Course they could have been wearing what they got (except for Doc of course) back in 2006, but the point was more the same style THAT the 1986ers were wearing at the ceremony. Not an actual 1986 Franco # 31 jersey that obviously only would be a Cincy Red jersey! batmagadanleadoff Sep 30 2008 08:57 PM The 86 Mets had the anniversary patch, and what appears to be a Majestic Mfr. Logo. The real 86 unis were manufactured by Rawlings; the sleeves were logoless. Mitchell & Ness made the flannelly '60's unis for Shea Goodbye. Apparently, more than one mfr. was involved in producing the various retro jerseys. AG/DC Sep 30 2008 09:21 PM Pure 90s Mets I salute: Rico Brogna Eddie Murray Todd Hundley, I guess Jose Vizcaino Jeff Kent Mlicki Manzanillo Yoshii While I'm in Japan, I salute Takashi Kashiwada, the man who opened Asia to the Mets. Know who'd be a cool invite (and maybe the Countdown Like It Oughta Be thought of this)? Steve Chilcott. themetfairy Oct 01 2008 02:24 AM Here are some pictures from Ralph Kiner Night (July 14, 2007). The view of Citi Field from the Shea tunnel near Gate E - Fans arriving from the subway - Citi Field rising behind Shea - themetfairy Oct 01 2008 02:27 AM Between the old and the new, before the September 14, 2008 Mr. Met Dash - themetfairy Oct 01 2008 06:07 AM This is an old photo. How old? Pre-MiniKnight old - the kid in the backpack is his older brother, who is now significantly taller than I am, and the little girl is now off to college. Oh, and that's me in the middle. In 1994 the Mets entered into a deal that included the installation of Nickelodeon's Extreme Baseball at Shea mini theme park just beyond right field. Living in the City with a 4-year-old and a toddler, ya gotta believe we made a lot of trips to that park. We were there for its opening, due to D-Dad's business connections, playing in the theme park along with some of the Mets who checked it out before that night's game (the only mar in that incredibly fun evening was the news that Dwight Gooden had entered rehab for the second time). When our planned baseball birthday party for our daughter at Shea (yes - there was a time in her life when she was actually into that kind of thing and didn't wince at the thought of baseball) was unworkable due to the strike, we amended the plan and had her party at the Nickelodeon park (for those of you who remember what Nickelodeon was into back then, you'll be amused to know that I was slimed. Slime is kind of like green vanilla pudding with an odd consistency...). This picture, though, was taken at a more routine time. We were at the park one afternoon (possibly 4th of July) and took a tour of Shea that included the clubhouse and the field. The kids and I sat in the Mets dugout while D-Dad took this picture. I generally hate having my picture taken, but this was an occasion that was worthy of an exception - themetfairy Oct 01 2008 06:12 AM This is a picture that iubitul took. D-Dad, a couple of friends and I had just completed the Run to Home Plate. We're in the Shea outfield, and the picture was taken above from the Picnic Area - (Psst - iubitul - did you ever scan the other photos from that day? There are a couple that would be fun to post if you did). G-Fafif Oct 01 2008 06:19 AM Not a photo-related comment but regarding invitees, Todd Hundley did receive a shoutout from Howie Rose when he ran down the list of those who couldn't be with us today. I was struck that the mostly dismal 1991-1996 Mets were represented by John Franco and nobody else, essentially. HoJo, Sid and Doc played on those teams, but aren't associated with them. Fonzie came up in '95, but he is a part of the postseason teams that came later in the mind's eye. So is Franco, I guess. Only because they went to the trouble of tracking down Doug Flynn, Craig Swan and John Stearns (and Mazzilli, I suppose, though he has '86 bona fides), did I get a little hung up on there not being a Rico Brogna (good fit, I hear), a Lance Johnson, or, as suggested, the Anthony Young. themetfairy Oct 01 2008 06:19 AM MK hanging out with some friends during a Mets Fan Club for Kids clinic. I think this was in 2005 - themetfairy Oct 01 2008 06:39 AM On the day I bought my good camera, I took this shot of David Wright connecting for a homer - Time will tell whether this was beginner's luck, but I'm happy with the shot. Benjamin Grimm Oct 01 2008 07:19 AM ="G-Fafif":2bw2zl3t]Not a photo-related comment but regarding invitees, Todd Hundley did receive a shoutout from Howie Rose when he ran down the list of those who couldn't be with us today. I was struck that the mostly dismal 1991-1996 Mets were represented by John Franco and nobody else, essentially. HoJo, Sid and Doc played on those teams, but aren't associated with them. Fonzie came up in '95, but he is a part of the postseason teams that came later in the mind's eye. So is Franco, I guess. Only because they went to the trouble of tracking down Doug Flynn, Craig Swan and John Stearns (and Mazzilli, I suppose, though he has '86 bona fides), did I get a little hung up on there not being a Rico Brogna (good fit, I hear), a Lance Johnson, or, as suggested, the Anthony Young.[/quote:2bw2zl3t] I was thinking along similar lines this morning in the car. There weren't many players present whose careers were strictly in the lean years and the in-between years. There were a few guys from the 1960's, like Frank Thomas, and 70's guys like Flynn, Swan, Stearns, and Kingman, but overall, very few of the returnees were guys who didn't appear in a World Series for the Mets. batmagadanleadoff Oct 01 2008 09:50 AM ="G-Fafif":1bl0kw4g]Only because they went to the trouble of tracking down Doug Flynn, Craig Swan and John Stearns (and Mazzilli, I suppose, though he has '86 bona fides), did I get a little hung up on there not being a Rico Brogna (good fit, I hear), a Lance Johnson, or, as suggested, the Anthony Young.[/quote:1bl0kw4g] Though I would've liked to see Anthony Young walk onto the Shea field last Sunday, as I already mentioned, I did not reasonably expect to see him. Until George Theodore was announced. Once The Stork was delivered, I thought that anything was possible and that everyone was in play. But not Bobby Bonilla. G-Fafif Oct 01 2008 10:05 AM ="batmagadanleadoff":36rnfjz9] ="G-Fafif":36rnfjz9]Only because they went to the trouble of tracking down Doug Flynn, Craig Swan and John Stearns (and Mazzilli, I suppose, though he has '86 bona fides), did I get a little hung up on there not being a Rico Brogna (good fit, I hear), a Lance Johnson, or, as suggested, the Anthony Young.[/quote:36rnfjz9] Though I would've liked to see Anthony Young walk onto the Shea field last Sunday, as I already mentioned, I did not reasonably expect to see him. Until George Theodore was announced. Once The Stork was delivered, I thought that anything was possible and that everyone was in play. But not Bobby Bonilla.[/quote:36rnfjz9] Shea Amnesty could have been the theme and everybody but Vince Coleman could have been welcomed and absolved. I could have applauded Bonilla. I could have applauded Alomar. I could have applauded Hebner just for old times' sake. I think, if sufficiently intoxicated, I could have applauded Glavine. But not Vince Coleman. A.Y., however, needed no amnesty. He was always treated well amid the disaster that went down around him. It would have been a classy Storklike move. themetfairy Oct 01 2008 02:26 PM MiniKnight's first game at Shea - I love how D-Dad caught Mr. Met's pixelated image smiling and waving on the scoreboard in the background. metsguyinmichigan Oct 01 2008 08:40 PM That's Mr. Met bestowing his blessing! Awesome shot! themetfairy Oct 01 2008 09:01 PM D-Dad says thanks soupcan Oct 02 2008 08:58 AM Not a Shea photo per se but still... I was looking through a box of crap in my attic and came across a Mets scorecard from 1985. I thought 'how cool would it be if this was from opening day and I actually scored it?'. I opened it up and guess what - it was and I did. Surprising to me because that opener I drove down from Syracuse with about 6-7 fraternity brothers and sat in the bitter cold of the upper deck. I'm sure I was drunk and my hands were frozen. In those days though I did score pretty much every game I went to. I checked UMDB against my log and I didn't do a half-bad job... Heep appears in the boxscore but not on my card, until you look closer - In the 7th it appears Heep was announced but I suppose Whitey replaced Campbell with Hassler for the lefty/righty thing so John Christensen took the AB. You can see that I wrote Heep's name but then crossed it out. Why was Davey PH-ing Heep for Straw though? Game was tied 5-5 men on first and second 2 out. What am I not seeing or remembering? Also - Note that Staub pinch-hit in the 9th and Darling ran for him. John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 02 2008 09:10 AM Holy shit, nice handwriting. Are you an architect? soupcan Oct 02 2008 09:11 AM Oh gosh really? Thanks. Its usually much neater, I was kind of embarassed to post it because I thought it was pretty sloppy. Not an architect but an illustrator in a previous life. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 09:13 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 02 2008 09:15 AM Strawberry opened the 1985 season hurt. His opening day start was in question and he did not play at all in the Mets next game. He missed a significant amount of playing time in 1985 to injuries. May I ask what frat you belonged to? Centerfield Oct 02 2008 09:13 AM ="themetfairy"]MiniKnight's first game at Shea - I love how D-Dad caught Mr. Met's pixelated image smiling and waving on the scoreboard in the background. That's amazing. MK already looks like himself. Not sure if that made any sense. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 09:17 AM How come my post above displays a "last edited" note even though this is the very next post? soupcan Oct 02 2008 09:19 AM ="batmagadanleadoff"]May I ask what frat you belonged to? Thanks for the Strawberry answer. HahnSolo Oct 02 2008 09:21 AM ="soupcan":3uc7yjo2] In those days though I did score pretty much every game I went to.[/quote:3uc7yjo2] You scored in the Shea upper deck? I should hang out at more games with you. metirish Oct 02 2008 09:24 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 02 2008 09:25 AM Brilliant posts from metfairy and soup...MF , the Mets cap looks over sized....what happened? Great score card soup , I scored my first game ever this season, in the second to last row up top behind home plate. It didn't look anything like yours though... soupcan Oct 02 2008 09:24 AM ="HahnSolo":2y3lkhxq]You scored in the Shea upper deck? I should hang out at more games with you.[/quote:2y3lkhxq] It was a looooong time ago. Its in me but its been hibernating for a while. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 09:29 AM ="soupcan":3jnfvsp6]Thanks for the Strawberry answer.[/quote:3jnfvsp6] That's on Comstock, with a lot of other frat houses, right? Did you see my Sherman Douglas post[/url:3jnfvsp6] from a few days ago? soupcan Oct 02 2008 09:32 AM Yup. 721 Comstock to be exact. I did see the Douglas post, you were right. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 09:33 AM Back on topic. Frayed Knot Oct 02 2008 09:34 AM ="batmagadanleadoff"]Strawberry opened the 1985 season hurt. His opening day start was in question and he did not play at all in the Mets next game. He missed a significant amount of playing time in 1985 to injuries. Most of his missed time was on account of when he rolled over on his thumb making a catch in a game I was at - in mid-May I think it was. ]How come my post above displays a "last edited" note even though this is the very next post? All that means is that you edited something in that post after the thread was active again. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 09:39 AM ="Frayed Knot":nd2dud0e] ="batmagadanleadoff":nd2dud0e]Strawberry opened the 1985 season hurt. His opening day start was in question and he did not play at all in the Mets next game. He missed a significant amount of playing time in 1985 to injuries.[/quote:nd2dud0e] Most of his missed time was on account of when he rolled over on his thumb making a catch in a game I was at - in mid-May I think it was. [/quote:nd2dud0e] You're right. But he opened the season with a nagging injury as well. I have the video of that complete game. I'll try and find it but it may take me a while, because I haven't converted that tape to disc. My old VHS's are a disorganized mess. dgwphotography Oct 02 2008 09:43 AM Soup - that's great stuff. I was sitting down underneath in the loge that day. Freaking Hernandez - strikes out in a big spot leading off the top of the 10th. So unclutch. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 09:49 AM ="Frayed Knot":itaev3d1]All that means is that you edited something in that post after the thread was active again.[/quote:itaev3d1] What do you mean by "thread was active again"? Based on experience, I thought that the "last edited" notation was activated only if the post was edited after someone else posted a subsequent message. soupcan Oct 02 2008 09:55 AM ="batmagadanleadoff":2of6od08]What do you mean by "thread was active again"? Based on experience, I thought that the "last edited" notation was activated only if the post was edited after someone else posted a subsequent message.[/quote:2of6od08] You edited at 11:15. CF posted at 11:13. OE: No, I'm wrong. That's weird. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 10:01 AM ="soupcan":3pdd5j9f] ="batmagadanleadoff":3pdd5j9f]What do you mean by "thread was active again"? Based on experience, I thought that the "last edited" notation was activated only if the post was edited after someone else posted a subsequent message.[/quote:3pdd5j9f] You edited at 11:15. CF posted at 11:13[/quote:3pdd5j9f] I dunno about that. When I originally posted that message, it appeared after CF's post. Why would my subsequent minute later edit appear based on an unedited post showing prior to my post, and thus, prior to my edit? batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 10:02 AM ="soupcan":2yeh8i49]OE: No, I'm wrong. That's weird.[/quote:2yeh8i49] Now you get it. themetfairy Oct 02 2008 10:38 AM ="Centerfield"] ="themetfairy"]MiniKnight's first game at Shea - I love how D-Dad caught Mr. Met's pixelated image smiling and waving on the scoreboard in the background. That's amazing. MK already looks like himself. Not sure if that made any sense. It makes sense. He's recognizable, even at three weeks old. Irish - I'm not sure what was up with the hat. That soon after a C-section I thought I was doing well getting dressed at all seawolf17 Oct 02 2008 12:03 PM Actually, as long as the message has been read at least once, then it gets the "edited" tag. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 02:26 PM ="seawolf17":neearbs2]Actually, as long as the message has been read at least once, then it gets the "edited" tag.[/quote:neearbs2] I'm not convinced because I know for sure that on occasion, I have edited some of my messages as much as a day after posting them. So long as my message in question was always the last one in the thread, the "last edited" note was never triggered. I know that others read the post after it was posted but prior to my edit based on the page view count. So based on my personal use, merely reading a post wouldn't be enough to trigger the edited notation if that post was ever to be edited. AG/DC Oct 02 2008 02:31 PM How about if somebody else had already hit the response button, even if they hadn't submitted? Frayed Knot Oct 02 2008 02:34 PM I think the mods should just confess that they're monitoring all of BatMags movements and activities. Nothing personal mind you, just be careful what you say in the bathroom. You never know who's listening. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 02:47 PM ="Frayed Knot":1klmkujp]I think the mods should just confess that they're monitoring all of BatMags movements and activities. Nothing personal mind you, just be careful what you say in the bathroom. You never know who's listening.[/quote:1klmkujp] That's what I always thought. Do you know that my avatar disappeared mysteriously? And that the feature that would allow me to simply submit another avatar is missing from my control panel or whatever it's called? What do you make of that, huh? dgwphotography Oct 02 2008 02:55 PM I don't remember if I've posted this one before: Fireworks Night, July 3, 2006: soupcan Oct 02 2008 03:02 PM Wow. cooby Oct 02 2008 03:37 PM ="soupcan":1twkt7gk] In those days though I did score pretty much every game I went to.[/quote:1twkt7gk] HAHAHAH, I am sure though that by now somebody else has already beaten me to this line, I'll go back and look cooby Oct 02 2008 03:40 PM Yep! themetfairy Oct 02 2008 03:50 PM ="Iubitul":2bej8qlv]I don't remember if I've posted this one before: Fireworks Night, July 3, 2006: [/quote:2bej8qlv] Whether it's a rerun or not, it's gorgeous. soupcan Oct 02 2008 04:48 PM ="cooby":1hpi6tfp] ="soupcan":1hpi6tfp] In those days though I did score pretty much every game I went to.[/quote:1hpi6tfp] HAHAHAH, I am sure though that by now somebody else has already beaten me to this line, I'll go back and look[/quote:1hpi6tfp] DOH! I didn't realize HahnSolo was taking the piss! I'm a moron. metsguyinmichigan Oct 02 2008 07:27 PM ="themetfairy":2i6sr6pi] ="Iubitul":2i6sr6pi]I don't remember if I've posted this one before: Fireworks Night, July 3, 2006: [/quote:2i6sr6pi] Whether it's a rerun or not, it's gorgeous.[/quote:2i6sr6pi] Clearly you're too good at this for it to just be a hobby. Are you a professional? I'm just in awe. I snapped shots of some of the same small details that you did -- like the little NYs in the grates around the trees -- yet you picked a really cool, unconventional angle to shoot it. Beautiful and creative. dgwphotography Oct 03 2008 12:32 AM ="metsguyinmichigan"] Clearly you're too good at this for it to just be a hobby. Are you a professional? I'm just in awe. I snapped shots of some of the same small details that you did -- like the little NYs in the grates around the trees -- yet you picked a really cool, unconventional angle to shoot it. Beautiful and creative. Thanks metsguy. I'm not a professional, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night... Seriously, it's a hobby - I'm a web developer by trade. But, it's also a passion that centers me. I can have a completely lousy day at work, but if I get to spend 15 productive minutes behind my camera, I'm completely relaxed and centered... Here's a couple of oldies. Please ignore the quality - my film scanner isn't working, so I had to scan the prints on a flatbed... July 4, 1986 - Nolan Ryan pitching to Gary Carter: September 18, 1986 - The best part of this pic is Backman's expression. Hungover much? John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 03 2008 05:46 AM Just look how much better those old shots look without Keyspan signs, giant dunkin donuts cups, too-dark blue paint, etc etc. This thread is going to make me dig out what I can find, but I'll start with this classikc: batmagadanleadoff Oct 03 2008 08:24 AM ="Iubitul":1jek1hyd]I don't remember if I've posted this one before: Fireworks Night, July 3, 2006: [/quote:1jek1hyd] I was surprised to read that you're not a pro. Professional is the first word that came to my mind when I saw this beautiful picture of Shea with the fireworks. Where were you sitting (or standing) when you took the picture of Carter batting against Ryan? AG/DC Oct 03 2008 08:33 AM If I remember him describing that photo last year, he put his camera down, satisfied he got the shot he wanted, and noticed the Mets team photographer right next to him going for the same shot. seawolf17 Oct 03 2008 08:34 AM Lost in that shot is the kid in the Wright shirt, bottom right corner, watching the fireworks. A nice touch. dgwphotography Oct 03 2008 11:56 AM ="batmagadanleadoff":2duv67l2]Where were you sitting (or standing) when you took the picture of Carter batting against Ryan?[/quote:2duv67l2] Thanks :-) I was able to sneak down to the first row behind home plate - got a lot of good shots that were on KC's site. dgwphotography Oct 03 2008 12:04 PM ="AG/DC":1gfkczpr]If I remember him describing that photo last year, he put his camera down, satisfied he got the shot he wanted, and noticed the Mets team photographer right next to him going for the same shot.[/quote:1gfkczpr] That was the first time I shot the fireworks, back in 1990. They had a photo contest sponsored by Kodak every year - I had won in the memorabilia category in 1989, and had my picture in the 1990 yearbook. So, I had the idea to try and shoot the fireworks that July - that's when I ran into Marc Lavine. When the 1991 yearbook came, and I saw his fireworks shot on the cover, I knew there was no way that mine made it into the yearbook. There's a post script to that story: I ran into Marc again in 2006. I snuck around to behind home plate in loge to take pictures of Mike Pelfrey in his ML debut. Marc was standing in the walkway right next to me. A security guard came over and started giving Marc a hard time about standing there. I leaned over the railing and asked him, "What, doesn't he recognize you?" Gotta love the security at Shea. Kong76 Oct 03 2008 05:44 PM The old school stuff is still there if anyone wants to re-explore .... http://www.kcmets.com/DGWPhotography/photonew1.htm metsguyinmichigan Oct 03 2008 05:48 PM I love the wallpaper shot of Reyes as a B-Met! SteveJRogers Oct 03 2008 06:25 PM ="Iubitul":2lf7a8xg] They had a photo contest sponsored by Kodak every year - I had won in the memorabilia category in 1989, and had my picture in the 1990 yearbook.[/quote:2lf7a8xg] I'm shocked that a Nikonian like you would stoop so low as to enter a contest run by Kodak! = dgwphotography Oct 03 2008 06:43 PM ="SteveJRogers":38evkptp] ="Iubitul":38evkptp] They had a photo contest sponsored by Kodak every year - I had won in the memorabilia category in 1989, and had my picture in the 1990 yearbook.[/quote:38evkptp] I'm shocked that a Nikonian like you would stoop so low as to enter a contest run by Kodak! =[/quote:38evkptp] Film, Steve. Film. I loved Kodak 64 slide film. Actually, starting in 1995, Kodak offered the DCS460[/url:38evkptp]. It was a 6mp digital camera which used a Nikon N90s SLR for the body. soupcan Oct 03 2008 09:07 PM ="Iubitul":2hzt6uz2]That was the first time I shot the fireworks, back in 1990. They had a photo contest sponsored by Kodak every year - I had won in the memorabilia category in 1989, and had my picture in the 1990 yearbook. [/quote:2hzt6uz2] So I read this and flipped through my '90 yearbook - holy cow - is (was) all that stuff in the picture yours? G-Fafif Oct 04 2008 04:04 AM I ran back to the '90 yearbook as well and was quite impressed with the collection as well as the photograph. A copy of "Nails" even! I'll bet Lenny Dykstra never read it. dgwphotography Oct 04 2008 05:28 AM Thanks guys. Yes, all that stuff in the picture is mine, and that collection has only grown... Of course I have a copy of Nails, my wife was such a big Dykstra fan, she even, gulp, rooted for the Phillies for a while when he got traded... soupcan Oct 06 2008 07:57 AM Taken on Opening Day 1987... Notice that there are no neon players on Shea yet. Sorry about the quality - haven't figured out the best settings for photos on the scanner yet. metirish Oct 06 2008 08:06 AM Those are great pictures soup , maybe it's the contrast but it looks cold and bleak that day.Is that guy wearing a batting helmet? DocTee Oct 06 2008 08:07 AM If you hadn't told me those were from 1987, I'd ve guessed they were from a decade earlier (based on the vehicles in the parking lot). AG/DC Oct 06 2008 08:08 AM Old school. That's how Met fans roll. soupcan Oct 06 2008 08:15 AM ="metirish":1lvfa5e8]Those are great pictures soup , maybe it's the contrast but it looks cold and bleak that day.Is that guy wearing a batting helmet?[/quote:1lvfa5e8] Cold and bleak - yes. Batting helmet - yes. ="DocTee":1lvfa5e8]If you hadn't told me those were from 1987, I'd ve guessed they were from a decade earlier (based on the vehicles in the parking lot).[/quote:1lvfa5e8] I agree - isn't it funny how its always the cars in photos that give a person a sense of the age of the picture? ="AG/DC":1lvfa5e8]Old school. That's how Met fans roll.[/quote:1lvfa5e8] Damn skippy. soupcan Oct 06 2008 08:31 AM Notice no skyline on the scoreboard. Round cut-outs in foul territory on either side of the plate. Never knew what those were for until I watched a DVD of game 4 of the '69 Series. During player intros before the game, Cuellar was warming up in it, tossing from there. Can you see straw-hat, hand-rolling lady in the front row behind homeplate? That's before they added the additional VIP seats and effectively put her 10 or so rows back. What the heck's going on at second base? AG/DC Oct 06 2008 08:37 AM I like the life-size bendable plastic Keith Hernandez figure out there. Nothing says "dreary opening day" like Ralph Kiner walking alone through the shade in his raincoat. soupcan Oct 06 2008 09:06 AM You think that's Ralph? I was going to guess Cashen. metirish Oct 06 2008 09:07 AM I was thinking M. Donald Grant . soupcan Oct 06 2008 09:08 AM He was long gone by then. metirish Oct 06 2008 09:08 AM Of course he wasn't even with the mets then...never mind me. Actually I meant Nelson Doubleday but I'm still probably wrong. soupcan Oct 06 2008 09:23 AM That could be Nelson. I don't think his hair was completely white yet in '87. batmagadanleadoff Oct 06 2008 09:24 AM I think it's Cashen, though it's hard to tell. I don't think it's Kiner; that's not Ralph's way of walking. AG/DC Oct 06 2008 09:26 AM Funny, I think that's exactly what makes him look Kineriffic. Funnier still is that I doubt either of us has seen Kiner walk more than a handful of times, but we both have a distinctive impression. Among other reasons, I think it's Ralph because he appears to be coming from a press scrum. batmagadanleadoff Oct 06 2008 09:31 AM ="soupcan"]That could be Nelson. I don't think his hair was completely white yet in '87. Maybe not, but it was surely on its way. That was the first game back since Wilpon wrested away Nelson's controlling interest in the club. Straw and Keith went at each other that Spring. Doc was in Smithers and at age 22, would never be consistently great again. Backman's "forty fuckin' car crashes" was already proving prophetic figuratively, if not literally. John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 06 2008 09:41 AM I would guess Doubleday. themetfairy Oct 06 2008 09:50 AM A couple of pictures from the 1987 opener - Opening ceremonies - First Pitch - John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 06 2008 09:57 AM Check out skinny Barry soupcan Oct 06 2008 10:00 AM Nice ones Fairy. Apparently you had much better seats than me... AG/DC Oct 06 2008 10:00 AM I like the area around the apple hat, strewn with empty crates and lurking hoods. metirish Oct 06 2008 10:03 AM I like how metfairy's picture helps answer who the people out in center field are in the picture soup posted, kind of cool that two members can post similar pictures for the same opening day in 1987. Farmer Ted Oct 06 2008 10:09 AM Any photos of Banner Day in the archives? Those would a nice treat. themetfairy Oct 06 2008 10:11 AM ="soupcan":19xbemwi]Nice ones Fairy. Apparently you had much better seats than me...[/quote:19xbemwi] Thanks soup. I worked for a law firm in 1987. There were only two good things about the job. One was my office (Empire State Building, 49th Floor, southern view) and the other was that the firm had season tickets and one of the partners would occasionally offer two of the seats to D-Dad and me. themetfairy Oct 06 2008 11:23 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 06 2008 11:45 AM I went into the old photo albums to scan some pictures from 1994's Nickelodeon's Extreme Baseball at Shea experiment. These are from the VIP Opening Party on June 28, 1994. I have pictures of each of my kids at about age 2 with John Franco. This is the one with my older son - We wouldn't have wanted to try to wipe the smile off of Bobby Bo's face - Back in 1994, we had no reason to dislike Jose Vizcaino - themetfairy Oct 06 2008 11:25 AM July 4, 1994. I previously posted the picture of myself with the kids in the dugout. Here are some other photos from that day. From the stadium tour that we took that day - themetfairy Oct 06 2008 11:30 AM Those of you who know my daughter now will be shocked to hear that there was a time she actually rooted for the Mets. We planned to have her 5th birthday at a game at Shea, but the plans were changed on account of strike. We had the birthday at the Nickelodeon park instead. The birthday girl - Cute cake - If you remember Nickelodeon at the time, slime was a big thing. The birthday girl didn't want to be slimed herself, but wanted to slime her mom instead. Let it not be said that I've never done anything for that girl - metirish Oct 06 2008 11:41 AM Absolutely classic , the clothes the uniforms , the sunglasses , everything. We need a thread for classic Mets and Shea pictures like these. Benjamin Grimm Oct 06 2008 12:02 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 06 2008 12:04 PM .. Benjamin Grimm Oct 06 2008 12:03 PM I've been thinking of putting a Shea slideshow on the UMDB. I have a few pictures of my own of the "Shea experience" that I've taken over the last couple of years. Some with architectural details, some of fans crowding through the gates, etc. I've been meaning to ask for submissions of similar photos, and I guess this is as good a time and place as any to start. I'm more interested in "neutral" photos rather than those that feature smiling friends or family members. Some of the photos posted in this thread would be great for that. If anyone who's posted any photos objects to the pictures being used in this manner, please let me know. (I intend to specifically ask permission to use any of these before I actually do so.) A couple of weeks ago I created a prototype slide show. Take a peek if you like: http://www.leaptoad.com/mets/slidetest.php Some day there will be similar slideshows available to all visitors, and they'll have individual themes. Right now I'm slowly putting together one that will capture the events surrounding the final day at Shea Stadium. themetfairy Oct 06 2008 12:32 PM Nice slideshow BG. And I have no objection if you'd like to use any photo that I've posted on the UMDB metirish Oct 06 2008 12:34 PM I like the prototype, nice work. themetfairy Oct 06 2008 06:07 PM May 30, 1999 was a Beanie Babies giveaway day at Shea. I was writing for Mary Beth's Bean Bag World Magazine at the time, and i was able to get press credentials for the game. I was constantly expecting security to tap me on the shoulder and tell me that I didn't belong on the field, but they didn't. Here's my press pass - Diamond Vision - D-Dad took this shot of me from the Field Level - Olerud and the Shea Scoreboard - The Diamond Vision later, from the Upper Deck - Pictures of players to follow.... themetfairy Oct 06 2008 06:12 PM Most of the players were incredibly good sports about having their picture taken with the Beanie Baby du Jour. My big regret was not asking Bobby Valentine for a picture, A) because he would have; and it was a Valentina Beanie Baby. The only one who turned me down was Todd Pratt, but since he was signing autographs at the time I'll give him a pass on that. Rey Ordonez - Roger Cedeno (whose solo homer provided the Mets with their only run as they lost that day) - Edgardo Alfonzo - Mike Piazza (who not only posed for this picture, but graciously gave me a little blather quote for my article) - Benny Agbayani - Fman99 Oct 06 2008 08:08 PM Great pictures MetFairy. How awesome to see those guys being good sports. Man I loved that '99 squad. themetfairy Oct 06 2008 08:23 PM They were a great bunch, for sure. cooby Oct 06 2008 09:16 PM NICE seawolf17 Oct 07 2008 12:57 PM Funny photos. What a neat experience. themetfairy Oct 07 2008 01:41 PM Thanks. It was surreal, and very cool soupcan Oct 13 2008 07:27 AM No seats! AG/DC Oct 13 2008 07:44 AM Well, that one guy has a seat. I think we can take him. metsguyinmichigan Oct 13 2008 09:51 AM He's guarding the stop sign before the people from MeiGray come to pick it up for the auction. soupcan Oct 15 2008 08:46 PM Found these pictures in a thread at baseball fever... AG/DC Oct 15 2008 09:44 PM Agh. themetfairy Oct 16 2008 04:42 AM That one gave me a bad dream last night Benjamin Grimm Oct 16 2008 08:13 AM I found this one the most painful: metirish Oct 16 2008 08:14 AM Great pictures , thanks soup. AG/DC Oct 16 2008 08:24 AM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ut1H4o_ie8c metirish Oct 16 2008 08:50 AM Great song edgy , a blast form the past. dgwphotography Oct 16 2008 09:01 AM I think I'm going through the anger phase of mourning. I'm sure I'll come around, but right now, I just so angry over everything regarding the dismantling of Shea, and the move to his corporate playground. Through it all, I keep getting the feeling that Shea was ours, and CitiField belongs to him. Bastard. AG/DC Oct 16 2008 09:19 AM I don'think it's us against him when the vast majority of the fans and media supported the move. If so, it's a slender us. Farmer Ted Oct 16 2008 10:52 AM Painful. But ther new place will be a treat. themetfairy Oct 16 2008 11:06 AM The new place will be ours. We'll make it ours, dammit! G-Fafif Oct 16 2008 03:51 PM Tour[/url:24y3xk17] of Citi Field parking lot... metirish Oct 16 2008 06:05 PM Whats with the actual hole in the pitchers mound? Benjamin Grimm Oct 16 2008 06:53 PM I'm guessing there was something buried under the mound that they wanted to retrieve. I don't have a great guess as to what it was. My best guess is some kind of camera, but I don't recall seeing any mounds-eye views on any telecasts. soupcan Oct 16 2008 07:06 PM ="metirish":35vh26wx]Whats with the actual hole in the pitchers mound?[/quote:35vh26wx] I'm guessing that they dug up the pitching rubber - to sell it of course - and that hole is a result. dgwphotography Oct 16 2008 07:18 PM no - I think that was where the plumbing was for the hose they used to water down the infield.... soupcan Oct 17 2008 07:31 AM ="Iubitul"]no - I think that was where the plumbing was for the hose they used to water down the infield.... Makes more sense. Wonder how much they're selling that for Zvon Oct 19 2008 06:48 PM I didn't realize this til recently. I thought I was bummed at seasons end because the team failed to get to the post season. But being a Met fan for 40 years, this is really something I'm used to. For the team, there was/is always next year. But this was it for Shea.... This is what really bummed me out. That they couldn't get Shea to the post season one more time. That would have been the way send her off. Great pictures here posted by all, and really fun to view. Iubitul, your pictures of Shea are breathtaking. Absolutely breathtaking and beautiful. Everybody, thanks for sharing them. themetfairy Oct 19 2008 06:51 PM Warewolf! Good to see you, man. Don't be a stranger! metirish Oct 20 2008 12:29 PM Found this persons work over at Faith & Fear( looks like a few have been posted here already) , very extensive collection of great pictures. What does picture #40 show? picnic area? http://sports.webshots.com/album/568107635SUQZeD Read this from Jason over at Faith and Fear. http://www.faithandfearinflushing.com/ Farmer Ted Oct 20 2008 07:37 PM Where the heck are they storing 55,000 seats? metsguyinmichigan Oct 21 2008 08:21 AM Uniwatch reports that the Agee marker appears to have been saved! Willets Point Oct 21 2008 08:25 AM ="Farmer Ted"]Where the heck are they storing 55,000 seats? dgwphotography Oct 22 2008 04:55 AM ="metsguyinmichigan"] Uniwatch reports that the Agee marker appears to have been saved! Yeah - probably to be sold... soupcan Oct 22 2008 07:40 AM Farmer Ted Oct 22 2008 02:52 PM I share Belushi's reaction. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gI3nb9x5VhY Zvon Oct 22 2008 06:11 PM ="soupcan"] Oh my.... This is difficult to witness. PiggiesTomatoes Oct 24 2008 08:29 PM A couple of shots from my only game this season -- at least it was a win. The only win against the pitiful Mariners this season. Down in Tampa now and don't get back to NY all that often for games. > My basehit at Shea. Fantasy Camp reunion in 2006... The place may have been a bit of a dump but it was our dump. Rockin' Doc Oct 25 2008 05:37 AM Nice pictures. Welcome to the pool. Nice handle, I hope you stick around. metirish Oct 25 2008 05:46 AM ="PiggiesTomatoes":2399a9u7] The place may have been a bit of a dump but it was our dump.[/quote:2399a9u7] Thank you and welcome. metsguyinmichigan Oct 25 2008 01:01 PM Great photos! I can't imagine how glorious it was to get that hit. Welcome aBordick! themetfairy Oct 25 2008 01:43 PM This little piggy is a welcome addition to the Pool - Welcome Zvon Oct 25 2008 07:00 PM Excellent pics Piggie! Actually batting at Shea must have been an incredible experience. Is that a female catcher? PiggiesTomatoes Oct 25 2008 07:59 PM Thanks, everyone, for the kind words. I'd joined some time ago but didn't visit for a while, then got locked out and getting back in was a bitch! Riffraff filter must work. Getting to play on the field was a thrill and yes, it was a female catcher. She was the only female in camp and was a trooper. Regards, JF Kong76 Oct 26 2008 05:03 PM PT: joined some time ago but didn't visit for a while, then got locked out and getting back in was a bitch! Riffraff filter must work <<< Read your email around 9 AM on Fri and answered, and had you set up before 6 PM that same day. No one was locked out and getting back was as easy as sending an email. PiggiesTomatoes Oct 26 2008 07:33 PM I wasn't being critical...thought that use of the term riffraff filter would have communicated sarcasm. That said, I'd attempted logging in unsuccessfully with my original password without luck and when I tried to use the forgot password link, I repeatedly received a message that my name and email address did not match. Then, I was unable to find an email address on the forum to contact, ultimately "googling" to find the admin addy. It wasn't easy...but I do appreciate the prompt reply once I emailed the correct address. JF G-Fafif Oct 26 2008 07:38 PM PT, Great pictures. At first glance I wondered how the Mariners game was suddenly being played in daylight. Per your sobriquet, let us know who will be ready first: Hausman or Kobel. Kong76 Oct 27 2008 05:41 AM Maybe it's me and I'm just being cranky and defensive but the email address is right up top: Everybody in the pool! Joining us for off-season hot stove discussion is easy. Shoot us an email [click here] Glad you re-found us. Willets Point Oct 27 2008 01:12 PM Welcome Piggie! You can hold the conch while you're here. soupcan Oct 28 2008 10:54 AM will the Dunkin' Dounts cup be the last man standing? metirish Oct 28 2008 10:57 AM Helps keep the workers running. Gwreck Oct 28 2008 11:46 AM It's somewhat refreshing that nobody was dumb enough to shell out the ~$5000 the greedy MeiGray group was asking for it. AG/DC Oct 28 2008 11:47 AM Or they're moving it to the new digs. seawolf17 Oct 28 2008 01:12 PM It'd be funny if they just left it in the parking lot. Benjamin Grimm Oct 28 2008 01:22 PM They do seem to have demolished around it. Maybe it will be moved to Citi Field. I imagine the new place will have some advertising, no? SteveJRogers Oct 28 2008 01:23 PM ="Gwreck":1zlwh6r8]It's somewhat refreshing that nobody was dumb enough to shell out the ~$5000 the greedy MeiGray group was asking for it.[/quote:1zlwh6r8] Say what you will about memorabilia sellers like MeiGray and Steiner, that probably really is the going rate for that kind of unique advertising as memorabilia. Honestly, there probably is a market for stuff like that; McDonald arches, Big Boys Big Boy, etc. Just no one that got involved in the Shea Memorabilia auctions was into it. metirish Oct 28 2008 01:28 PM ="SteveJRogers":1991yy98] Say what you will about memorabilia sellers like MeiGray and Steiner,[/quote:1991yy98] Thank you , I will. Fucking scum they are. Benjamin Grimm Oct 28 2008 01:33 PM I'm not sure I understand the animosity. metirish Oct 28 2008 01:39 PM Well he said say what you want so I did.... soupcan Oct 28 2008 02:15 PM I guess as long as there are people out there who are willing to pay those ridiculous prices then I don't have an issue with someone charging it. Capitalism and all that. I am upset at the kind of money they are asking for stuff though. I intended to get a pair of seats but $869.00? Really? For what will amount to a novelty in my yard? Then I looked around the website and I thought that this: ...would be cool. But those are up over $1,200.00. They so take advantage of our own feelings towards the team - hundreds of dollars for bricks, almost a grand for seats. Its just a little disappointing is all. soupcan Nov 01 2008 11:01 AM Say goodbye to the shrimpeaters! Field level frst base side is the first to go. Valadius Nov 01 2008 11:21 AM Do they HAVE to have debris strewn around that wonderful field? Kong76 Nov 01 2008 11:26 AM SJR: Say what you will about memorabilia sellers like MeiGray <<< Irish: Thank you , I will. Fucking scum they are <<< I know the guy who was the first premier club guy in line and I didn't get the impression that the guys willing to spend the cash thought MeiGray was hus- tling anyone ... they're brokers. He advertised the event to everyone on his memorabilia buying list and I assume he did so to generate interest among those who were obviously interested. I hope he got a kick back, it's the American way! I wrote back that they're gonna cause a few divorces to which he quipped, "never tell your wife what you're really spending on Mets' stuff!" soupcan Nov 01 2008 11:49 AM ="Valadius":3pluypt1]Do they HAVE to have debris strewn around that wonderful field?[/quote:3pluypt1] I think that's kinda unavoidable when you're tearing a structure down. What are they supposed to do - follow the bulldozers around with a broom and dustpan? metsmarathon Nov 01 2008 02:40 PM that's just silly. what they should do is gingerly remove each and every peice the way it was originally put in, and delicately hand carry it out of the stadium grounds, stepping only on the red carpet laid across the field, and place each dutifully salvaged quantum of the stadium into its own velvet lined receptacle wherein it will remain interred through the end of time. soupcan Nov 03 2008 07:55 AM Dunkin' Donuts Down! Benjamin Grimm Nov 03 2008 07:57 AM I expected it would be surrounded by a large puddle of spilled coffee. soupcan Nov 03 2008 07:57 AM Link There are more pictures on the site. ] November 1, 2008 Bulk of Shea Stadium awaits sale in Bridgewater company's warehouse By MICHAEL DEAK Staff Writer From the outside it looks like an unremarkable warehouse, not like the pyramids in Egypt that were built as mausoleums for the pharaohs. But inside that squat warehouse are treasures that, for New York Mets fans, are as valuable as anything that has ever been found inside the pyramids. It is the Bridgewater warehouse of the MeiGray Group, which has the task of selling all the contents of Shea Stadium, except for the seats. Warren resident Barry Meisel, a former sportswriter for the New York Daily News who is the president and chief operating officer of the MeiGray Group, doesn't want the exact location of the warehouse disclosed for security reasons because it houses thousands of items saved from Shea Stadium before the stadium's slow demolition started earlier this month. Everything is for sale, except for two items that Meisel bought for himself � a picture of the celebration after the Mets clinched the World Series in 1969, and the portion of the center field wall that bears the 410-foot marker. "I always wanted that," he said. Memorabilia Meisel estimated that the warehouse contains from 5,000 to 7,000 items from Shea Stadium. Some of the items are relatively minor, such as the hundreds of nameplates that were placed on the back of seats occupied by season ticket holders. There are numerous boxes of photographs taken from the walls of corridors, executive offices, suites and inside the stadium. The pictures are blown-up images of legendary Mets and the unforgettable moments from the team's 46-year history. In the middle of the warehouse is a nondescript pile of wood found at any demolition site. But, Meisel said, it is a special pile of wood � boards from benches in both the home and visiting team dugouts. The boards were never replaced in the dugouts but have been painted many times, he said. Also in the middle of the warehouse are the 150-foot foul poles that have been broken into 25-foot sections. There are rows of lockers from both the Mets and visitors' locker rooms, as well as cubicles from where players hung their clothes and kept their valuables during games. Throughout the warehouse are piles of outfield wall sections including the retired numbers of players and managers. Flags that flew at the top of the stadium have also found a home in the warehouse. There also are hundreds of signs from throughout the stadium � signs that hung on restroom doors and signs that directed fans to the subway station. A sign of team mascot Mr. Met saying smoking is prohibited in the stadium has already been sold for $100, Meisel said. And there are hundreds of curiosities: an orange water cooler with the Mets logo and a plaque from Seton Hall University honoring Frank Cashen, who was the Mets general manager in the 1980s and considered to be the architect of the team that won the 1986 World Series. There is even a lime marker that came from the Polo Grounds, the original home of the Mets, that was still used by the grounds crew at Shea. Toward the front of the warehouse is a cluster of fan assistance, concession and program booths that Meisel said would look great in any Met fan's backyard. One of the most intriguing items is the concrete marker that was placed in the left field upper deck where centerfielder Tommie Agee hit the longest home run in Shea Stadium's history, on April 10, 1969. Some of the most popular items salvaged from the stadium are not in the warehouse because they've already been sold. All of the stadium's 31 turnstiles have been sold. It was a daunting job, but all of the items were recovered from Shea Stadium after the last game of the season. Swing bidder Many of the items from Shea will be auctioned on the MeiGray's group's Web site. The first auction ended Friday, Oct. 31, but Meisel said there will be future monthly auctions. He estimates it will take a year to sell everything from the stadium. Proceeds from the sale will be divided among New York City, which owns the stadium, and the Mets Foundation, said Jay Horowitz, vice president of media relations for the Mets. The Mets Foundation funds and promotes a variety of charitable causes, including educational, social and athletic programs for young people. What people are willing to pay for some of the items has Meisel scratching his head. For example, the wrought-iron "tree surrounds" with the Mets logo that protected the trees in the parking lot are receiving bids of more than $1,000. Menu board signs from concession stands are fetching bids around $1,000. A section of the outfield wall goes for close to $900. Bids on ketchup and mustard holders with the Mets logo are more than $500. Even a neon Bud Light sign has a bid of $515. As a literal sign of better times, an outfield wall panel with an AIG advertisement had a bid of $1,420. "This (sale) only happens once every 45 years," Meisel said. A Jersey boy Meisel and his partner Bob Gray started the MeiGray Group in the 1990s. After 19 years as a sportswriter for the Daily News covering professional hockey and the New York Giants, Meisel said he became tired of traveling. Meisel's decision to channel his interest in sports into a new career came at an opportune time. With the economy growing steadily, the market for collectible sports memorabilia began to boom in the late 1990s. He developed the idea of selling authenticated jerseys that were worn by professional hockey players. He wrote a business plan and approached one of the teams that he used to cover, the New York Rangers, and in August 1997 signed an exclusive deal to sell the team's previously worn jerseys. The Rangers deal led to agreements with the New Jersey Devils. Next, the MeiGray group inked deals with NBA teams. An NHL or NBA player goes through about six jerseys during a season, three in the home uniform and three in the away uniforms, he said. Last week, as Meisel was sitting in the warehouse, he showed a jersey that had been worn the previous night by Elton Brand, an NBA veteran free agent, who had made his debut as a Philadelphia 76er on the night of Wednesday, Oct. 29. "It smells," Meisel said. "It's sweaty." But it's also valuable to collectors and fans of Brand. That's why representatives, working with the teams' equipment managers, of the MeiGray Group often go into locker rooms immediately after games to get the jerseys. The key to the business, headquartered in Branchburg, is the authentication process that guarantees buyers they are getting genuine items. The jersey comes with a letter of authentication with the team's letterhead, Meisel said. The MeiGray Group has seven full-time employees who are responsible for acquiring the items, cataloging and pricing them, selling them and then shipping them to the buyers. "We have a great staff," Meisel said, adding that he hires collectors to help him put values on the items. The company's growing reputation was one of the reasons why the MeiGray Group got the contract with the Mets to sell the memorabilia from Shea Stadium, which is owned by the City of New York. Meisel is no longer spending hours away from home traveling for his job, but said he works from 60 to 70 hours a week. "I'm happy," he said. "This is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity." John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 03 2008 07:58 AM ="soupcan"]Dunkin' Donuts Down! Finally some destruction I can support. It be cool if we cracked that open and Rachel Ray would come out naked. Edgy DC Nov 03 2008 08:01 AM it would be kind of cool to give the Agee marker to the Agee family. Ditto the Seaver/Stengel/Hodges numbers. Farmer Ted Nov 03 2008 08:42 AM The DD sign was an eyesore. Those stupid police lights and the K sign were bad ideas drawn up by some idiot in a board room. Edgy DC Nov 03 2008 08:47 AM Doesn't this look like they composed a Met jersey and photoshopped it onto a Yankee picture of Wille? metirish Nov 03 2008 08:48 AM ] Finally some destruction I can support. It be cool if we cracked that open and Rachel Ray would come out naked. Saw her recently and couldn't believe how heavy she has gotten. Benjamin Grimm Nov 03 2008 08:55 AM Rachael Ray is an example of how someone can be both cute AND unappealing at the same time. Edgy DC Nov 03 2008 08:58 AM Can we just not talk about happy homemakers from TV ever? Benjamin Grimm Nov 03 2008 09:04 AM metsguyinmichigan Nov 03 2008 09:53 AM ="Benjamin Grimm":2zdqcdh1]Rachael Ray is an example of how someone can be both cute AND unappealing at the same time.[/quote:2zdqcdh1] Well, if you go back to the early shows on Food Network, she was always a little chunky, part of her girl next door appeal. She certainly had a makeover when the show went big, and this year appeared to have some, um, surgical enhancements, in the chest area, unless they did some severe Photoshop work for the magazine covers. My crush on Rachael is well-known, and somewhat tolerated by my wife. Benjamin Grimm Nov 03 2008 11:14 AM It's not her weight that makes her unappealing, it's the noises that come out of her mouth. G-Fafif Nov 03 2008 11:42 AM ="Edgy DC":2j9ucmx8]Doesn't this look like they composed a Met jersey and photoshopped it onto a Yankee picture of Wille? [/quote:2j9ucmx8] This would explain why the Mets in recent years seemed so flat. metsguyinmichigan Nov 03 2008 12:10 PM ="Benjamin Grimm":1wzmvwjl]It's not her weight that makes her unappealing, it's the noises that come out of her mouth.[/quote:1wzmvwjl] She talks? Benjamin Grimm Nov 03 2008 12:17 PM She tries. themetfairy Nov 03 2008 01:02 PM She squawks. seawolf17 Nov 03 2008 02:46 PM ="soupcan":1mxbmvn9]A sign of team mascot Mr. Met saying smoking is prohibited in the stadium has already been sold for $100, Meisel said.[/quote:1mxbmvn9] FUCKIN' HELL. That's all I wanted from the stadium. I just left a message with someone at MeiGray. soupcan Nov 07 2008 07:18 AM Found these at baseball-fever.com First game ever at Shea... Last game ever at Shea... Benjamin Grimm Nov 07 2008 07:37 AM It was prettier when it opened than when it closed. Edgy DC Nov 07 2008 08:39 AM The pitch could have been in better condition. G-Fafif Nov 07 2008 09:00 AM A ballpark that looked better with a parking lot in the background will now itself be a parking lot. The irony is as thick as the outfield grass was thin. Benjamin Grimm Nov 07 2008 09:12 AM Looking at the two photos together really shows how much garishness was added to Shea over the years. I'm sure Citi Field with start out with a lot of that clutter already in place. I can only imagine what it will look like 40 years from now. (And I hope I live to find out! At this point, another 40 years is about as much as I care to get.) John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 07 2008 09:33 AM ="Edgy DC":2749cxyp]The pitch could have been in better condition.[/quote:2749cxyp] Shea was barely complete when it opened. They worked till the very last minute. They said it was very soft and muddy in the outfield. metirish Nov 07 2008 09:40 AM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":1qbr6llo] ="Edgy DC":1qbr6llo]The pitch could have been in better condition.[/quote:1qbr6llo] Shea was barely complete when it opened. They worked till the very last minute. They said it was very soft and muddy in the outfield.[/quote:1qbr6llo] Was there even a fence at the back behind CF separating it form the parking lot , it's hard to tell. soupcan Nov 07 2008 09:43 AM And half of the parking lot isn't even paved yet. Willets Point Nov 07 2008 09:46 AM All the cars are the same size though. soupcan Nov 11 2008 08:03 AM First base Field level is gone, Third base nearly so. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 08:14 AM One advantage to implosions (yes, I realize that wasn't possible in this case) is that they're quick. This is like a band-aid being slowly and painfully peeled off. seawolf17 Nov 11 2008 11:29 AM ="themetfairy":2tehg78d]One advantage to implosions (yes, I realize that wasn't possible in this case) is that they're quick. This is like a band-aid being slowly and painfully peeled off.[/quote:2tehg78d] No kidding. I should stop opening this thread. G-Fafif Nov 11 2008 12:26 PM That sure was some tadium. Zvon Nov 11 2008 12:57 PM ="themetfairy":3vpl9tnq]One advantage to implosions (yes, I realize that wasn't possible in this case) is that they're quick. This is like a band-aid being slowly and painfully peeled off.[/quote:3vpl9tnq] I couldn't have said it better. I have to say I am a bit surprised how the destruction of Shea is effecting me. It has to be this slow torturous way I'm viewing it bit by bit. ="seawolf17":3vpl9tnq]No kidding. I should stop opening this thread.[/quote:3vpl9tnq] I'm with you seawolf17. Edgy DC Nov 11 2008 01:12 PM We let this happen. More than a few advocated it's happening. It's no time to turn away now. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 01:22 PM I'll own up to wanting the new stadium. I'm not denying that. But I've seen this transition done in several other cities during the past few years, and to a team they've all handled it better than the Mets have. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 01:34 PM I'm enjoying the pictures and saving everyone one of them. Keep 'em coming, I stopped licking my wound about ten days ago. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 01:35 PM tmf: they've all handled it better than the Mets have <<< How so? soupcan Nov 11 2008 01:39 PM I'll miss the old girl too but c'mon. Think of what it will be like having wide walkways! Benjamin Grimm Nov 11 2008 01:42 PM Wide walkways and legroom are nothing to sneeze at. I'd feel differently if I still lived in New York. But as rarely as I get to Shea Queens to see the Mets play anymore, I don't think Citi Field will ever feel like home to me. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 01:44 PM I remember the Phillies homage to the Vet in 2003 - a stadium that was younger than Shea and didn't have nearly the history Shea did. IIRC they were the first to take down a number before each game, but they made sure that every number was taken down by someone with a meaningful connection to the team or the stadium (not a Lincoln Mercury dealer in the lot). Their post-game ceremony after their final game was very moving (I'll find the link to it shortly), without the idiotic delay that Mets fans had to endure after Shea's final game. They had books ghost written by the Phillies Phanatic helping prepare younger fans for the move. From top to bottom it just seemed like a much better thought out operation. Edgy DC Nov 11 2008 01:49 PM That has little to do with photos of the de-construction. Is a delay before a ceremony such a big deal? themetfairy Nov 11 2008 01:52 PM The delay before the ceremony was just endemic of the half-assed job the Mets did in properly celebrating Shea's final season. They had an opportunity to do the old girl real justice, and they dropped the ball every chance they could. I couldn't find that footage of the final game ceremony at the Vet on the Phillies' site (and I feel very dirty trolling around there - ick!). But it had much more of a well-planned feel to it. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 01:56 PM How did we get from handling the transition in a day by day demolition thread which you said other teams did better to closing ceremonies and silly number countdowns? themetfairy Nov 11 2008 02:06 PM ="KC"]How did we get from handling the transition in a day by day demolition thread which you said other teams did better to closing ceremonies and silly number countdowns? I mentioned the transition in general. You asked for details. I think that if the Mets did a better job in paying homage to Shea this past season that people wouldn't be as upset about its destruction as they are. Agree or disagree with that premise - it's merely a theory. Edgy DC Nov 11 2008 02:08 PM I wouldn't feel dirty seeking for it if you liked it. If you like it, you like it. It's all MLB's website anyhow. I'm just not ready to kick the Mets because they don't demolish the stadium in a manner comparable to the White Sox or the Rangers. Or such having anything to do with why folks say they won't open this thread. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 02:12 PM You seem to be switching gears, going from "we let this happen/some advocated for it" to "I'm not ready to kick the Mets." You cool with this or not? Kong76 Nov 11 2008 02:15 PM tmf: I mentioned the transition in general. You asked for details <<< How did all the others "to a team" handle the dismantling of their old stadium better than the Mets? Edgy DC Nov 11 2008 02:21 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Nov 11 2008 02:27 PM You're excerpting phrases out of sentences there. It's clear to anybody that I didn't support a new stadium. How it's demolished is a moot point and I don't see how it can be done better, or indeed has been done better by everyone else. Frayed Knot Nov 11 2008 02:25 PM Maybe they can demolish the stadium by bringing each piece out on a velvet pillow laid out on a sled pulled by a puppy dog. I'm sure we'd all feel better then. This wound-licking is getting too much. I want video of the destruction and i hope it's bloody. Benjamin Grimm Nov 11 2008 02:29 PM I don't think the Mets did such a bad job with the last year of Shea. Yeah, there were too many Lincoln-Mercury dealers pulling down the numbers. But I think the closing ceremony was nicely done. Very nicely done. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 02:36 PM The physical demolition of Shea has to be done in this manner because implosion is not possible. My point is that I don't think that people would be reacting to the demolition process as painfully as they are if the Mets had done a better job of honoring Shea properly in its final season. Benjamin Grimm Nov 11 2008 02:38 PM Speaking only for myself, I just find it a little bit sad. No pain though. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 02:39 PM I know people who are in real pain over this. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 02:44 PM There's no way I could cull what fairy's point was from what she typed, I don't read posters minds, we were talking about the demolition pics. Problem with getting too wrapped up in the Mets will never be the same with- out good ol' Shea is before you know it's twenty years from now and you're writing letters to the paper like Bob L about how greener the grass was there and popcorn fresher. The bathroom floors were even drier and less sticky 20 years from now too I bet and those wonderful sight lines ... themetfairy Nov 11 2008 02:50 PM If that's the case, then I weep for the yet-to-be-finished Citi Field. Frayed Knot Nov 11 2008 02:54 PM I think we're starting to sound like the wound-lickers we used to make fun of; - oh no, this stadium is being destroyed worse than any other stadium in the history of destroyed stadiums - only the Mets could paint their foul lines crooked - why did Shea have to die so young? Kong76 Nov 11 2008 02:57 PM tmf: I know people who are in real pain over this <<< Send 'em here! Edgy DC Nov 11 2008 03:00 PM ="Frayed Knot":3qcqh3up]I think we're starting to sound like the wound-lickers we used to make fun of; - oh no, this stadium is being destroyed worse than any other stadium in the history of destroyed stadiums - only the Mets could paint their foul lines crooked - why did Shea have to die so young?[/quote:3qcqh3up] Wait a minute, that second one wuz you. Edgy DC Nov 11 2008 03:00 PM ="KC"]tmf: I know people who are in real pain over this <<< Send 'em here! I think they're minors. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 03:02 PM Actually, Iubital's post yesterday ("it doesn't surprise me") started me on this build up of let's stop the wound licking that was bound to come out. I think. I ain't going back to look. (OE: meaning the foul line not lining up) themetfairy Nov 11 2008 03:18 PM ="Edgy DC"] ="KC"]tmf: I know people who are in real pain over this <<< Send 'em here! I think they're minors. No - the minors I know aren't as connected to Shea as most of the adults I know. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 03:24 PM How do they feel about the demolition? Do the also feel that it's being handled "to a team" much worse by the Mets? Or are they just bitter about the closing ceremonies and number countdown too? Send 'em here. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 03:32 PM Who are you talking about? Kong76 Nov 11 2008 03:39 PM The people who are in real pain over this, McFly. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 03:45 PM I'll leave it to them to specifically reply to you or not. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 03:50 PM If they're here (and I suspected they were) then you should have left them out of your poor defense to begin with and let them speak for themselves. You wiggled off like four hooks in this thread. G-Fafif Nov 11 2008 04:06 PM There is beauty, pain and joy in baseball. When they gut and pry apart where you experienced most of it, a person is likely to reflect on all three and feel, upon viewing the kinds of pictures in question, one of those sensations in particular. The beauty and the joy may have been carried out safely before MeiGray could sell them, but it is not surprising that the pain should linger and overshadow for many if not all across the duration of the demolition. Later? Who knows? We haven't been there yet. I suspect the beauty and the pain and the joy will coalesce into the warmer memories the magic of distance allows. Reality says somebody's doing a job in taking down Shea Stadium. Reality says the plan has been on the table long enough for everybody to adjust to the plan. But baseball and reality were never intended to mesh so easily. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 04:17 PM Eloquent as ever, and on topic. Bravo! themetfairy Nov 11 2008 04:29 PM ="KC":cumx5g68]If they're here (and I suspected they were) then you should have left them out of your poor defense to begin with and let them speak for themselves. You wiggled off like four hooks in this thread.[/quote:cumx5g68] Don't ask direct questions if you're not going to like the answers. What was I supposed to do? Ignore you? G-Fafif Nov 11 2008 04:32 PM ="KC":3vuetxpl]Eloquent as ever, and on topic. Bravo![/quote:3vuetxpl] Thanks much, but just throwing the last pitch of what TMF stated quite reasonably, I think...Benitez to the Fairy's Leiter, as it were. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 04:33 PM Thanks G. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 04:35 PM I disagree, I think she said something and then changed it to something else and then played on then something else. I have to stop, I'm gonna start getting PM's about causing waves in the bath tub. Frayed Knot Nov 11 2008 04:38 PM ="Edgy DC"] ="Frayed Knot"]I think we're starting to sound like the wound-lickers we used to make fun of; - oh no, this stadium is being destroyed worse than any other stadium in the history of destroyed stadiums - only the Mets could paint their foul lines crooked - why did Shea have to die so young? Wait a minute, that second one wuz you. Yes, but I was just noting the fact that they looked off via the angle in that aerial shot. What followed was a reply which stated that only the Mets could do something like that as if the new stadium really will have foul poles 150' from home plate on account of this organization being so incompetant that the thought of seeing where the lines actually lead hasn't yet occured to anyone during this whole multi-million dollar operation. I'd bring up the one post wondering if they really had to ruin the grass with all that machinery during the deconstruction but I don't think that one was totally serious (although I waver at times). G-Fafif Nov 11 2008 04:39 PM I find it way more upsetting that I posted my way up from Richie Hebner only to morph into Jerry DiPoto. Who ranks these things? Oh right. Us. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 04:46 PM ="KC":6z6ktyl3]I disagree, I think she said something and then changed it to something else and then played on then something else. I have to stop, I'm gonna start getting PM's about causing waves in the bath tub.[/quote:6z6ktyl3] I did nothing of the kind. I answered a question that you asked me. You chose not to like the answer. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 05:05 PM I ain't outlining it for you, and don't be so fucking snippy. You're not always right. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 05:07 PM I'm just playing defense here. I'm not the one accusing people of changing things around. Nor have I done or said anything that merits you swearing at me. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 05:16 PM I'm sorry, but you're just freakin' maddening sometimes. Poorly handled transition does not equal demolition. Go wiggle yourself. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 05:24 PM I never said it equaled demolition. I was talking about people's reactions to the demolition. And nothing I said justifies the kind of reaction you're having. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 05:33 PM No, your first response was about the closing ceremonies and the count down .... have you been drinking with cooby? I'm comfortable with my reaction for purposes of this thread and I apologize for cursing and that's all I have to say on the matter. C'mon, "go wiggle yourself" was pretty funny. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 05:43 PM No, I have not been drinking. This is what you consider an apology? I made a comment about the transition being handled poorly. You asked me to extrapolate. I did, and you reacted in a pretty hostile manner. If you don't like my opinion that's your prerogative. But you needn't go off like that just because you disagree with it. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 05:50 PM I apologized for cursing, that's it. Your reading comprehension skills are taking a beating in this thread. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 05:54 PM No. I'm simply taking a beating for not seeing an issue exactly the way that you do. Kong76 Nov 12 2008 04:20 AM A beating? If I was gonna get nasty I'd dig up a picture of you in a Phillies uniform and really stick it to you. I'm ultimately taking the beating when we argue because the bath house mentality of this board will almost always side with you. Mean ol' KC. *sigh* HahnSolo Nov 12 2008 06:42 AM Hi, I'm here for the "intelligent, lively and provocative discussion of the Mets, Ed Kranepool, and on a good day, the Ramones." Am I in the right place? Kong76 Nov 12 2008 06:58 AM seawolf17 Nov 12 2008 07:17 AM ="HahnSolo":3u9spspm]Hi, I'm here for the "intelligent, lively and provocative discussion of the Mets, Ed Kranepool, and on a good day, the Ramones." Am I in the right place?[/quote:3u9spspm] Eff that. I come here for the weekly KC/Scarlet fights. Edgy DC Nov 12 2008 07:35 AM I missed a GREAT NIGHT. Zvon Nov 12 2008 08:48 PM whats all this then....? Pages of posts but nary an image. Addressing the issue of pain... Some of us do feel pain in regard to Shea's demise. It's not even that bad. Its a pang....a feeling of remorse. It hurts on a level that's hard to express, and its a passing phase. Eventually this will be a thing of the past. Not yet though, seeing it being ripped down bit by bit, here and at other places as well. I have been going around and collecting pictures of Shea myself. Anything I come across. Early days,recent times,....even the demolition. So I bop in here and I see there have been additions to the Shea Photo thread, and I'm like, "Oh kool! Maybe its one I haven't seen. Hope its the older Shea...but any nice pic of Shea would be sweet to see..." I hope to see pictures of Shea in way of a recollection, an homage. That's just me though. Maybe there should be a seperate thread for Shea's demolition, ...I dunno. But it's really not a big deal. As you can see I'll still check out this thread, hoping for kool pics of Shea Stadium when it was in use. I've come across some really great Shea photos online recently, especially at Baseball Fever. Like this one. I am 95% positive that thats me running onto the field after game 5 of the '73 NLCS. Edgy DC Nov 12 2008 09:05 PM Classy look. Apparently, nobody was allowed in that day --- by law --- except 21-year-old white males with shoulder-length hair, workshirts, and bellbottoms. Zvon Nov 12 2008 09:15 PM ="Edgy DC":3fjgok91]Classy look. Apparently, nobody was allowed in that day --- by law --- except 21-year-old white males with shoulder-length hair, workshirts, and bellbottoms.[/quote:3fjgok91] Not so. I was 15. Kong76 Nov 13 2008 04:34 AM EDC: Classy look. Apparently, nobody was allowed in that day --- by law --- except 21-year-old white males with shoulder-length hair, workshirts, and bellbottoms ------------- I never noticed, but you're right. It looks like they just opened a gate for field level gen adm for a Deep Purple concert or something and all the guys are scrambling to get a good spot. Cool picture to be in. G-Fafif Nov 13 2008 05:42 AM It's fascinating, from a cultural perspective, to contrast the crowds storming the field images from '69 and '73. The tumult of the '60s may have waned away from the ballpark, but its remnants seem to have become codified in places that were largely shielded from change while change was at its most intense: like the ballpark. (Which is probably what pissed Dick Young off so.) It's often been said there was more of an edge to the '73 rushing of the field than '69's, for what that's worth. I don't remember the Orioles complaining they were frightened for their well-being the way the Reds did. That YouTube clip that MLB pulled earlier this year, the pregame show from Game Four of the '73 World Series, showed (to me anyway) what a different world we were living in versus four years earlier, not just in style but substance. If you recall, Kubek, Seaver and Hunter were all taking Charlie Finley to task for his handling of the Mike Andrews situation. Questioning authority, kind of a radical concept in establishment circles in 1969, was part of the polyester fabric of the game by 1973. Probably not a coincidence this was the same year as the Senate's Watergate hearings nor that within two weeks there would be such a backlash to the Saturday Night Massacre. soupcan Nov 14 2008 09:54 AM Latest shots from wcbs880 chopper... Field level is completely gone now. Here's some interesting stuff that I got from baseball fever. Shea Demolition Plans: Edgy DC Nov 14 2008 09:58 AM What's a "NON-BEARTING STRUCTURE"? Benjamin Grimm Nov 14 2008 10:00 AM Before anyone else beats me to it, let me just get this out of the way: It figures! The stupid Mets can't even get the spelling right! Willets Point Nov 14 2008 10:04 AM Question for Zvon. Is your shirt open showing your Siegfried & Roy hairless chest or were you wearing a fleshtone t-shirt? Zvon Nov 14 2008 01:26 PM ="Willets Point"]Question for Zvon. Is your shirt open showing your Siegfried & Roy hairless chest or were you wearing a fleshtone t-shirt? lol. I never went around displaying my slinky chest so I'm sure that's a T-shirt. Doubt it was fleshtone, probly orange. Thing is I'm not positive that's me. First time I saw the pic I looked right past that guy searching for me. Eventually I got back to him and thought that must be me. I have no recollection of what I wore that day. I do know I was a skinny guy with long hair who always wore white sneaks. If I had on a flannel shirt, which I wore often enough, it be rolled up at the sleeves. And the path I took puts me right about where that guy is. After that I ran to the edge of the home plate grass, stopped... saw that girl on the mound (looks like she's going for the rubber <[joke setup<]).. our eyes met...I ran to her on the mound and we did a Koosman/Grote type jump and hug. Twirled in a circle, split and ran in different directions. I never saw her again but I'll never forget that moment. Benjamin Grimm Nov 14 2008 01:27 PM I had no idea that Marlo Thomas was there that day! metirish Nov 14 2008 01:34 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Nov 14 2008 01:34 PM WOW , what a great picture , guy in the yellow shirt at second stands out and I count three suits that might be security , one to the right of yellow shirt and one to the left of Buddy and one n front of him. Edgy DC Nov 14 2008 01:34 PM That's a great story. How about Barry Gibb chicken dancing to your right? Zvon Nov 14 2008 01:37 PM ="Edgy DC":38ctzctd]That's a great story. How about Barry Gibb chicken dancing to your right?[/quote:38ctzctd] No hug for him. Zvon Nov 14 2008 02:31 PM The thing about storming (and that's a very apt description) of the field in '73, and why it did get out of control, was that every kid wanted to be part of that moment, to be part of the celebration like in '69. And as the game went on we all had the same idea : to get down to field level so it was possible. We did the same thing during game four. I ended up on the 1st base side then. Rose hit that extra inning homer and the celebration was over. I was right on the rail behind the added box on the 3rd base side late in game 5. The Reds families were sitting in them. Eventually the game was stopped and they were led out to the Reds bullpen for their safety. And it's not that we were bothering them personally in any way, shape or form (fans did taunt them when they were being led away though, lol). Its just that there was a sea of people behind them that became like one big giant swaying creature. We could not move independently, could hardly even breath. And you know what I did then? I jumped the rail into the make shift box. Like the Reds families I was a bit concerned for my safety. Unfortunately everyone along the rail ended up jumping into the box like lemmings. Again we became crammed. I saw the fans on the 1st base side did the same thing, but they were so packed in that the little wooden wall that enclosed the section collapsed, and they spilled out onto the field. The game had to be halted again. Tug was on the mound at this point. He was pissed off. I remember him approaching the pile of people waving his arms over and over in an upward motion as if to say EVERYONE! BACK UP AND INTO THE STANDS! It was pretty crazy. I got so sandwiched in the corner of the box that I felt that we were gonna burst out on this side too. I jumped out and went down into the Reds dugout. I was able to hide in plain sight there for quite a few minutes, sitting on a stool in the far corner of the dugout. Eventually a cop came up to me and asked what I was doing there. I told him...I was trying to stay alive, lol. He told me I had to stay alive back up in the stands. This was when I was shown on TV, when the cop was talking to me. (my parents and brothers got to see that from home. My bros thought it was the koolest thing, my folks were like wtf were you doing?). I've told this story before here (I have also mentioned looking for the footage of me on TV and it is nowhere to be found.) but I don't think I ever stressed the point that what happened occurred because too many kids had this dream of being in a '69 like celebration highlight reel. And what actually happened was we so embarrassed the team, the game, the city, that that footage will forever be locked away and forgotten. One of my best Shea memories though. A Boy Named Seo Nov 14 2008 02:40 PM I re-read that part about you being in the Reds dugout a couple times thinking I misread or misunderstood you. That's the craziest thing I've ever heard. Wild story, man. Thanks for sharing. dgwphotography Nov 15 2008 12:28 PM I think I'm one of the one's in real pain over this that TMF is referring to. The thing is not once has the countdown, the ceremonies, or anything that the Mets did or didn't do play a role in it. It is simply the fact that a place that has been a desired destination for me for over 35 years is no longer there. Shea is a place that I dreamed about visiting since my aunt gave me my first yearbook in 1972. It's the knowledge that I will never feel the attachment to the new place that I do to the old place. It's the fact that it was a home away from home of sorts - a place where I knew ever nook and cranny, where I knew where to get the best knishes, or the best dogs. A place that is home to so many memories. Whatever the Mets did or didn't do to mark this occasion plays no role in how I feel about it. Benjamin Grimm Nov 15 2008 01:43 PM I agree with that, except for the part about feeling real pain. I feel a touch of sadness, and a sense of loss, but I wouldn't call it pain. Kong76 Nov 15 2008 04:31 PM I'd like to get a copy of that CAD file with the non bearting typo. Hell, they show part of the guy's name and addy and it was easily discovered who and where he is. Maybe he's got a sense of humor and would leak one to us. Edgy DC Nov 15 2008 07:56 PM Scarsdale. Vic can take a short drive and knock on his door. cooby Nov 16 2008 08:19 PM Zvon, great picture, great stories! cooby Nov 16 2008 08:20 PM And what does "Non Bearting" mean? soupcan Nov 18 2008 11:01 AM All of these from baseball-fever.com Edgy DC Nov 18 2008 11:11 AM What? The auction house couldn't generate any action on the spongetech.com sign? Farmer Ted Nov 18 2008 11:17 AM Soup's top photo shows the location of our old seats. Crushing. Willets Point Nov 18 2008 11:25 AM ="Edgy DC":133d3wiq]What? The auction house couldn't generate any action on the spongetech.com sign?[/quote:133d3wiq] Maybe Bubba Sponge? Farmer Ted Nov 18 2008 11:31 AM Missed the Spongetech sign. Very sponge worthy. soupcan Nov 20 2008 10:01 AM More pictures available at nycsubway.org 9/1963 5/10/1964 8/1/1979 8/1/1979 Tiles removed between 1979 and 1980. 8/16/1980 9/24/2008 holychicken Nov 24 2008 09:01 AM Might be a bit late for this coming in after all of the destruction pics . . . but this is one of my favorite pictures of shea. It is my gf's younger sister. John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 24 2008 09:47 AM ="holychicken"]Might be a bit late for this coming in after all of the destruction pics . . . but this is one of my favorite pictures of shea. It is my gf's younger sister. Is she like, legal? holychicken Nov 24 2008 09:56 AM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":22rs38rb]Is she like, legal?[/quote:22rs38rb] Oh, I see. You see a dark-skinned person and immediately think "illegal immigrant." You should be ashamed! ehehhe SteveJRogers Nov 24 2008 11:37 AM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket"] ="holychicken"]Might be a bit late for this coming in after all of the destruction pics . . . but this is one of my favorite pictures of shea. It is my gf's younger sister. Is she like, legal? Uh, 'Bucket, aren't you very much attached at the moment? Now Chicken, I ask you the same question! Benjamin Grimm Nov 24 2008 11:39 AM I find it a little odd to be lusting after someone when all you know is the shape of her nose. Edgy DC Nov 24 2008 11:44 AM And which pores are and aren't corrupted. holychicken Nov 24 2008 12:06 PM Exactly. I didn't even post a picture of her most desirable body part, her posterior. Dear god, tell me my gf doesn't read this forum or she will surely whup me. seawolf17 Nov 24 2008 12:08 PM ="holychicken":21z05y4i]Exactly. I didn't even post a picture of her most desirable body part, her posterior. Dear god, tell me my gf doesn't read this forum or she will surely whup me.[/quote:21z05y4i] It's okay, you can still post it. We don't mind. Edgy DC Nov 24 2008 12:25 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Nov 24 2008 12:42 PM Butts, schmutz. Steve's a snot man. seawolf17 Nov 24 2008 12:38 PM ="Edgy DC":1hrzmxox]Butts, schmutz. Steve's a snot man.[/quote:1hrzmxox] Must be a Yankee fan thing. SteveJRogers Nov 24 2008 01:14 PM ="holychicken":26x42lii]Exactly. I didn't even post a picture of her most desirable body part, her posterior. Dear god, tell me my gf doesn't read this forum or she will surely whup me.[/quote:26x42lii] Geez, I was just following Bucket's lead. I mean I need some Met Chick love more than he does! soupcan Dec 04 2008 08:12 AM All from baseball-fever John Cougar Lunchbucket Dec 04 2008 08:18 AM Mike Mulligan always said his Steam Shovel could take down one stadium as fast as 100 men could in a day, although he was never quite sure of that. Benjamin Grimm Dec 04 2008 08:26 AM So now they're chewing away at the Loge level? Are they going to get to a point where there's just an unattached Upper Level (or Upper Tank as Keith Hernandez would call it) floating high in the air? soupcan Dec 04 2008 08:28 AM Yeah that's weird isn't it? You'd think they'd go top to bottom rather than the other way around. I'd like to think that they are professional demolishers and know what they are doing rather than they might just be stupid. Edgy DC Dec 04 2008 09:21 AM I don't know. These two guys aren't winning any smart awards with me right now. << dgwphotography Dec 04 2008 10:58 AM ="soupcan"] Zvon - is it me, or does this look tone-mapped? It looks like it has that HDR glow to it... HahnSolo Dec 04 2008 11:21 AM ="Edgy DC":2sv0q5gv] I don't know. These two guys aren't winning any smart awards with me right now. << [/quote:2sv0q5gv] Those two guys are still waiting for their hot pretzel ordered at the last home game. G-Fafif Dec 04 2008 12:30 PM Talk about your stiff Breezes playing havoc with Shea's outfield. Valadius Dec 04 2008 02:00 PM Part of me is rooting to see the picture of them ripping down that Fox News sign. Edgy DC Dec 04 2008 02:14 PM You strike me as somewhat partisan. Am I right? soupcan Dec 04 2008 02:17 PM Who Vlad? Nah - he's as fair and balanced as they come. Kong76 Dec 04 2008 03:45 PM I sent those latest photos to a friend of mine. He wrote back that he thought they were building a new stadium and not just fixing up Shea and slappin' on a new coat of paint like in years gone by. Chucklehead. Zvon Dec 04 2008 04:57 PM ="Iubitul"] ="soupcan"] Zvon - is it me, or does this look tone-mapped? It looks like it has that HDR glow to it... Yes. Especially in comparison with the others. It does bring the shaded areas out. Zvon Dec 04 2008 05:02 PM I wish they would get this over with. How are they gonna take down the highest heights sans demolition? themetfairy Dec 04 2008 05:12 PM It may take a while. I remember Old Comiskey Park was in a state of partial demolition when we visited New Comiskey in August of 1991. Kong76 Dec 04 2008 05:22 PM Z: How are they gonna take down the highest heights sans demolition? <=== Cranes and stuff, and how is what they've been doing not demolition? Kong76 Dec 04 2008 05:52 PM tmf: It may take a while. <=== They don't really have much time if they plan to level the joint and make it a parking lot. My guess is they'll finish well before opening day. I don't want to get into union contracts twice tonight, but they make it worth it to finish on time so there's no lolligaggin' nowadays. Zvon Dec 05 2008 03:10 PM ="KC":21ab889l]Cranes and stuff, and how is what they've been doing not demolition?[/quote:21ab889l] Sorry. I meant the usage of explosive charges. Kong76 Dec 05 2008 03:42 PM I figured, I was just goofin'. soupcan Dec 09 2008 08:13 AM Upper deck wrecking ball. BAM! Benjamin Grimm Dec 09 2008 08:32 AM They should have painted the wrecking ball to look like a baseball. metirish Dec 09 2008 08:33 AM That would have been really taking the piss on those that see that as a sad event. Benjamin Grimm Dec 09 2008 08:37 AM It would be a nod to tradition. It's what they did with the Ebbets Field wrecking ball. The same ball was used a few years later on the Polo Grounds: Benjamin Grimm Dec 09 2008 08:50 AM Cincinnati's Crosley Field too! soupcan Dec 13 2008 02:19 PM Wow - now I'm even starting to have a hard time looking... baseball-fever.com Benjamin Grimm Dec 13 2008 02:36 PM Yikes. Edgy DC Dec 13 2008 02:55 PM GYAH! Kong76 Dec 13 2008 07:10 PM They didn't sell the panels depicting the leap and Seaver's head? Edgy DC Dec 13 2008 07:23 PM It looks like the terrorist hit we were praying wouldn't happen actually did. Kong76 Dec 13 2008 07:44 PM Fuck terrorists, an accidental plane crash on a foggy evening in the wrong flight path was what I thought mighta happened one day. *62 Dec 14 2008 12:56 PM The pictures may be gruesome but the Stadium has overstayed its welcome. I may miss living in Brooklyn desperately, but 3,000 sq. ft. is way better than 920. Edgy DC Dec 14 2008 05:11 PM I don't get the reference. *62 Dec 14 2008 05:39 PM I love Shea for lots of reasons, and will miss it some ..... but it's a dump. Better? Edgy DC Dec 14 2008 05:53 PM I thought those numbers referred to something. Rockin' Doc Dec 14 2008 06:57 PM I think *62 lives in Florida if my memory is correct. He apparently once lived in Brooklyn and apparently hung out at Shea quite a bit in the past. I think he was stating that he missed living in Brooklyn, but preferred the 3000 sq. ft. of living space he can now afford over the 920 sq. ft. of living space he had in Brooklyn. Living in the south and comparing costs for homes with my friends and relatives relatives that live near the city, I understand what he is referring too. Then again, maybe I miss interpreted the meaning of his post. Either way, it's nice to have *62 posting here again. I hope he hangs around. soupcan Dec 16 2008 01:42 PM StadiumPage.com Benjamin Grimm Dec 16 2008 02:04 PM It's amazing that just ten weeks ago it was still full of color and people and noise. soupcan Dec 18 2008 07:45 PM soupcan Dec 29 2008 07:51 AM soupcan Jan 05 2009 12:40 PM G-Fafif Jan 05 2009 12:52 PM Impressive Photoshopping, Soup. Quite interesting to see what Shea Stadium would look like if somebody went mad and started to tear it down. If it wouldn't be too much trouble, please put Shea back together again. Thank you. batmagadanleadoff Jan 05 2009 01:18 PM ="soupcan"]http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q308/soupcan11/shea5-1.jpg That neon batter just reminded me of Gary Carter' follow through, particularly the way Gary would take an inside pitch and line drive one-bounce it to the outfielder for a single. Are there any other Mets that the neon hitter resembles? Edgy DC Jan 05 2009 02:35 PM Looks kind of slender for Carter. It also looks like a guy going to right, while Carter more typically pulled. metirish Jan 13 2009 01:35 PM from 01/10/2009 metsguyinmichigan Jan 13 2009 02:35 PM They're not saving any of the neon players? I know they're huge. but heck, they could slice them up and sell them for $10 a foot to geeks like me! Zvon Jan 13 2009 02:58 PM ="metsguyinmichigan":8phckkps]They're not saving any of the neon players? I know they're huge. but heck, they could slice them up and sell them for $10 a foot to geeks like me![/quote:8phckkps] Why sell just their feet? John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 13 2009 04:19 PM wham G-Fafif Jan 13 2009 04:53 PM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":1virpusd]wham[/quote:1virpusd] "Wake Me Up Before You Go Go" vs. "Baby I'm Your Man" Whoops...wrong thread. metirish Jan 15 2009 08:00 AM Newsday today has a classic Shea pictures collection. Die-hard fans dance in the aisles at 1:50 a.m. during the 21st inning of a 25-inning marathon game between the Mets and the Cardinals at Shea Stadium. (AP Photo / September 12, 1974) A view of Shea Stadium during the national anthem before a New York Mets-Los Angeles Dodgers game in 1973. (AP Photo / June 9, 1973) Fans rush onto the field and players celebrate after the Mets defeated the Baltimore Orioles to win the 1969 World Series. (AP Photo / October 16, 1969 A view of Shea Stadium after after souvenir-hunting fans ripped up the sod following the Mets' victory in the 1969 World Series. (AP Photo / October 16, 1969) Pirates first baseman Willie Stargell waves to the crowd at Shea Stadium during Willie Stargell Night at Shea. The man at left wiping his eye is Nelson Doubleday, Mets chairman of the board. (Newsday / Paul J. Bereswill / September 27, 1982 The new owners of the Mets pose at Shea Stadium. From left: Stephen E. O'Neil, president of City Investing Company; Nelson Doubleday, president of Doubleday Co.; Fred Wilpon, Chairman of the Board of Sterling Equities and John O. Pickett, owner of the NHL New York Islanders, who was instrumental in setting up the sale of the team. Pickett was not listed as an owner of the club. (AP File Photo / January 25, 1980) Car fire involving several cars in the Shea Stadium parking lot during a game in 2002. (AP Photo / April 27, 2002) Workers Angelo DiMaria, left, and Dominico Bannezo clean off old paint and rust as they get Shea Stadium ready for Opening Day in 2001. (Newsdya / J. Conrad Williams Jr / March 28, 2001) > soupcan Jan 15 2009 08:09 AM Amazing how much Jeff looks like his dad used to. Even down to the bad hairdo. ="metirish"] Edgy DC Jan 15 2009 08:10 AM Car Fire Day: Best. Promotion. Ever. HahnSolo Jan 15 2009 08:36 AM I miss crazy old Uncle Nelson. soupcan Jan 15 2009 08:39 AM Pop Quiz - without looking it up, how much did Nelson & Jeff pay for the Mets in 1980. If I remember right, I think it was $20 million. Farmer Ted Jan 15 2009 08:45 AM I only recall $350 million or so to finally kick Doubleday to the curb in '02. Edgy DC Jan 15 2009 09:02 AM Who pitched on Car Fire Day? metirish Jan 15 2009 09:07 AM ="Edgy DC":kdd41i0v]Who pitched on Car Fire Day?[/quote:kdd41i0v] I remember that game , I should say I remember it from watching it on TV and the announcers talking about the fire in the parking lot and showing it. I'll guess that Steve Trachsel pitched . John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 15 2009 09:14 AM ="soupcan":sgwypaic]Pop Quiz - without looking it up, how much did Nelson & Jeff pay for the Mets in 1980. If I remember right, I think it was $20 million.[/quote:sgwypaic] For some reason $21 million is the number I remember but geez. Edgy DC Jan 15 2009 09:14 AM Pedro Pistacio took a no-hiiter into the seventh the day after a crisp one-hitter by Testes. It was game two of a three-game sweep over Milwaukee and, for a minute there, it looked like the 2002 Mets had scrapped together a winning rotation of Leiter-Estes-Astacio-D'Amico-Trachsel. That plan blew up in the parking lot like so many SUVs. Edgy DC Jan 15 2009 09:15 AM Is that logo stitched together? It acually looks like a giant shoulder patch. soupcan Jan 15 2009 09:16 AM D'Amico. I had high hopes for him. soupcan Jan 15 2009 09:17 AM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":esm8z809]For some reason $21 million is the number I remember but geez.[/quote:esm8z809] I think you're right. dgwphotography Jan 15 2009 11:19 AM ="batmagadanleadoff"] ="soupcan"] That neon batter just reminded me of Gary Carter' follow through, particularly the way Gary would take an inside pitch and line drive one-bounce it to the outfielder for a single. Are there any other Mets that the neon hitter resembles? flip it around, and it's Mex. attgig Jan 15 2009 12:16 PM ="metirish"] Fans rush onto the field and players celebrate after the Mets defeated the Baltimore Orioles to win the 1969 World Series. (AP Photo / October 16, 1969 > i wonder if that will ever be allowed in pro sports. when did that stop? it's only on college that you see fans rushing the field. why is that? Edgy DC Jan 15 2009 12:19 PM Because student athletes don't need/demand protection from the masses the way millionnaire atheletes do. Why is the cop screening home plate doing the time warp? metirish Jan 15 2009 12:23 PM How about the guy down the RF line jumping from the stands? Benjamin Grimm Jan 15 2009 12:23 PM I think it stopped in 1986, at least in New York. The fans rushed the field after the division clincher, but the mounted cops prevented it in the World Series. I think, though, that the Phillies had the cops on horseback for the 1980 World Series. John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 17 2009 12:20 PM I went out there this morning, photos on facebook. Here's a vid shot as the 7 train arrives in Willets Pt. metirish Jan 17 2009 01:59 PM Great pictures btw. soupcan Jan 18 2009 01:53 PM These are from baseballfever... Kong76 Jan 18 2009 02:08 PM Even dollar cost averaging down to ~ 7 1/2, that sums up my Citigroup stock feelings. I've been somewhat unaffected by most of the images, but this one is particularly eerie to me: Kong76 Jan 18 2009 02:10 PM I know the home opener is late this year, but are they really gonna have the ol' girl completely gone by then and a parking lot installed? I thought they'd be more far along. Benjamin Grimm Jan 18 2009 03:30 PM I'm not sure they have to. The existing parking lot served Shea for the last few years, and Shea held more fans than Citi will. Kong76 Jan 18 2009 03:37 PM I don't mean they have to, I just thought that was the plan. Since groundbreaking, parking there has been a pain in the neck and I took the train mostly to games. I like to tailgate, plan on doing it a lot this year, and it's easier to do with a car. John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 18 2009 04:26 PM ="Kong76":3gm6qt5k]I know the home opener is late this year, but are they really gonna have the ol' girl completely gone by then and a parking lot installed? I thought they'd be more far along.[/quote:3gm6qt5k] Official plan is the last bits of Shea are to be disappeared by June 30. Those photos put mine to shame! metirish Jan 23 2009 02:23 PM Vince Coleman Firecracker Jan 23 2009 02:43 PM An auto body shop in a Quonset hut. Fantastic. Willets Point Jan 23 2009 02:44 PM I've got dibs on "City * Field * Collision" as my band's name. Frayed Knot Jan 24 2009 11:28 AM The ends of the horseshoe are starting to disappear http://www.wfan.com/pages/3706726.php?imageGalleryXRefId=907755#imgXR http://www.wfan.com/pages/3706726.php?imageGalleryXRefId=907756#imgXR G-Fafif Jan 24 2009 11:53 AM It's a stump, but it's our stump. dgwphotography Jan 24 2009 01:07 PM soupcan Jan 26 2009 12:33 PM More at stadiumpage.com Frayed Knot Jan 26 2009 12:56 PM btw, Harvey Araton tees off the Yanx in a piece in Sunday's NYTimes. Specifically it's the sweet time they're taking in getting rid of the old park even though the new one is nearly finished and that the whole deal was based on trading stadium space for park land, park land that now seems destined for 2011 at the earliest. Their answer as to when they'll get around to even starting deconstruction is essentially "when we fuckin' get around to it - now go away and stop bothering us", even as they had no problem making a public spectacle about marching their offices across to the new digs the street last week. "Mayor Bloomberg, tear down this stadium" metirish Jan 26 2009 01:16 PM The arrogance of all involved is sickening , how I despise all things Yankees. SteveJRogers Jan 26 2009 02:14 PM Supposedly they are going to use YSII for a movie production, plus the plan was that either the Mets or Yankees would use YSII to play games if either Citi Field or YSIII weren't ready come April. So despite the arrogance, there really are valid reasons why it is still up. Frayed Knot Jan 26 2009 02:36 PM Even if using YSII was the on-paper 'just-in-case' backup plan in the event that some wild mishap went on with the construction of either of the new stadiums the virtually ZERO chance such a plan would ever be put into place has now shrunk to roughly that of the Lions being put into next week's Super Bowl were a case of bubonic plague to sweep through either the Steeler or Cardinal camp. And, as the article mentions, they've yet to even select a company that would do the deconstruction or set a date as to when it might start. So the reason it's not only still up but will be so for at least another year has everything to do with the fact that they haven't finished milking the old girl for every cent she's worth and if that means that the city that just re-re-issued more tax-free bonds as the price climbed over a billion dollars and the local kids in the neighborhood they claim to care so much for (whenever they weren't threatening to leave that is) go without a public park for the next few years well then that's none of their damn business. metirish Jan 28 2009 08:10 PM New York Times ] In Dead of Winter, Shea Stadium Is Melting Away By KEN BELSON Published: January 28, 2009 With each passing day, Shea Stadium, the home of the Mets since 1964, fades further from Citi Field, the team�s new home. In the last few weeks, demolition crews have been ripping down entire sections of Shea from both ends of the outfield decks toward its middle. What was once a semi-enclosed bowl with 57,000 seats is now a skeleton of a grandstand. In the first weeks after the Mets finished their final season at Shea (with another desultory loss that knocked them out of playoff contention), crews removed the seats, signs and anything else that could be sold to collectors or reused in city parks. Then demolition crews started knocking out the field level and the concrete decks that made up the loge and the mezzanine. But the structure of the stadium, built for nearly $30 million, was largely intact. Not so anymore. Since the beginning of the year, crews have clawed away at Shea�s walls and beams, exposing escalators, elevator banks and air ducts. The stands above Gates A and E have vanished and parts of the neon players that adorned the outside of the stadium are gone, too. Twelve sections of the upper deck still have their concrete floors, but the other sections that remain are outlined only by their steel beams. Unlike stadiums in other cities that have been imploded, Shea had to be taken down piece by piece because of building codes. The rat-a-tat-tat of the construction machinery drowned out the noise of the jets taking off from LaGuardia Airport. Tarps on chain link fences say �Almost Home,� a reference to the soon-to-be-opened Citi Field, but also the six-month process of erasing Shea. In all, nearly 10,000 tons of steel and another 2,500 tons of concrete will be pulled out of Shea. Some of the concrete will be ground up and reused as the base material for the parking lot that will be installed in its place. The lot will include space for 2,000 cars and signs marking where home plate and the pitcher�s mound once were. Team representatives said that the demolition will be completed some time in the coming weeks, which is not hard to imagine. On Wednesday, lines of dump trucks made their way onto what was once the outfield, weaving around piles of crumpled metal and concrete covered in snow. Several Web sites have sprung up that have chronicled the destruction of the place where Seaver once threw, Piazza once squatted and the Stork, George Theodore, once roamed. In a way, the sites are a testament to the morbid curiosity of Mets fans, who have endured many morbid Mets teams. �It�s interesting how they are doing it piece by piece,� said Eric Okurowski, a 31-year master�s candidate and a life-long Met fan from Babylon, N.Y., who runs stadiumpage.com. �Most old stadia are blown up and it takes just a few seconds. It�s pretty interesting seeing it come apart in pieces over the course of four months.� Okurowski and several other die-hard fans are organizing a final farewell at Shea at noon Saturday to share stories and take photographs of what is left of the ballpark. As Shea diminishes, Citi Field emerges. While less imposing than Shea, the new stadium, at least from the outside, has an elegance that Shea lacked. Instead of the lattice of concrete ramps that constituted Shea�s exterior, Citi Field is covered in brick and punctuated with arches and an entrance rotunda. Flood lights highlight the outside while klieg lights illuminate what is left of Shea. More Articles in Sports �A version of this article appeared in print on January 29, 2009, on page B18 of the New York edition. apmorris Jan 29 2009 04:58 PM ="metirish"]New York Times ] Okurowski and several other die-hard fans are organizing a final farewell at Shea at noon Saturday to share stories and take photographs of what is left of the ballpark. Anyone going? (bring a camera) metirish Jan 29 2009 05:28 PM People are going http://www.faithandfearinflushing.com/ G-Fafif Jan 30 2009 03:38 PM Damn, dirty apes... apmorris Jan 30 2009 04:43 PM ="G-Fafif"]Damn, dirty apes... Awesomenessness Kong76 Jan 30 2009 07:24 PM Classic pic. dgwphotography Jan 31 2009 05:41 AM that's just brilliant. Benjamin Grimm Jan 31 2009 05:44 AM That really is brilliant. metirish Jan 31 2009 05:47 AM Yeah it's very clever. themetfairy Jan 31 2009 06:19 AM It's just a model.... batmagadanleadoff Jan 31 2009 04:06 PM I'm guessing that the picture has something to do with the Statue Liberty finale in Planet of.... But that picture never came up on my browser. Not today. Not yesterday. Benjamin Grimm Jan 31 2009 04:14 PM Me neither. I had to right click, select "Copy Location" and paste the following in my browser: http://faithandfear.blogharbor.com/_photos/heston.jpg Edgy DC Feb 02 2009 07:05 AM You MANIACS! soupcan Feb 05 2009 07:11 AM From stadiumpage.com Just a matter of time now.... Benjamin Grimm Feb 05 2009 08:06 AM It's starting to look more like the grandstand you'd see at a race track. Frayed Knot Feb 05 2009 08:11 AM Never can say goodbye No no no no, I Never can say goodbye Even though the pain and heartache Seems to follow me wherever I go Though I try and try to hide my feelings They always seem to show Then you try to say you're leaving me And I always have to say no... Tell me why Is it so That I ... Never can say goodbye No no no no, I Never can say goodbye Evertime I think I had enough I start heading for the door There's a very strange vibration That pierces me right to the core It says turn around you fool You know you love her more and more Tell me why Is it so Don't wanna let yo go I never can say goodbye soupcan Feb 06 2009 10:55 AM These are from wcbs880.com. And there are a few more there as well. G-Fafif Feb 08 2009 03:10 PM Shea among the ruins... Kong76 Feb 08 2009 03:47 PM I called KB over and asked if she wanted to see an eerie picture on my laptop and she saw this and started bawling. "That's all that's left? When was that picture taken?" "Uh, I guess last time it snowed." ... (I'm obnoxious in real life too) and I told her this is like a 25 page thread of the destruction of Shea and we started talking about our Moms and games and tailgates and she got me all throaty too and crying and screw you all but ok I admit that it's hard to see the old thing disappear and I've been suppressing the sadness. There, I said it. dgwphotography Feb 09 2009 07:41 AM the first time we go there this year will be a shock. Edgy DC Feb 09 2009 07:50 AM We should go and have a tribute concert in the parking lot. G-Fafif Feb 09 2009 10:37 AM ="Kong76":1akaid2f]I called KB over and asked if she wanted to see an eerie picture on my laptop and she saw this and started bawling.[/quote:1akaid2f] My wife, who worked downtown throughout the fall of 2001, invoked Ground Zero in terms of what it reminded her of looking at. soupcan Feb 13 2009 10:09 AM Another from baseballfever.com metirish Feb 13 2009 10:27 AM Great pictures over there...taken this morning from the #7 train Benjamin Grimm Feb 13 2009 10:48 AM They should leave that last chunk in place. smg58 Feb 13 2009 12:34 PM I drove past it the other day. It's really sad to see it. soupcan Feb 14 2009 07:21 AM I'm at LaGuardia waiting for a flight. Drove past Citi and Shea. Shea looks so sad and insignificant. I'm excited and wistful at the same time. cooby Feb 14 2009 08:22 AM Please, check for ice and geese. Not joking. soupcan Feb 14 2009 08:38 AM We're flying Continental - what could go wrong? dgwphotography Feb 14 2009 09:44 AM ="metirish"] It's fitting that that's the last piece left... Frayed Knot Feb 14 2009 09:49 AM Think of it as an image of Koosman throwing the final pitch of the '69 WS. It could be Orosco/'86 too but it looks more like Koosman. dgwphotography Feb 14 2009 09:51 AM hmmmm.... I always saw Matlack in that image... dgwphotography Feb 14 2009 09:57 AM ="Iubitul"]hmmmm.... I always saw Matlack in that image... Actually, no. Bob Ojeda. SteveJRogers Feb 14 2009 11:49 AM ="Iubitul"] ="Iubitul"]hmmmm.... I always saw Matlack in that image... Actually, no. Bob Ojeda. What is that watermark on the other side of the card top? A Boy Named Seo Feb 14 2009 11:58 AM ="metirish"]Great pictures over there...taken this morning from the #7 train Nice pic, Irish. Poor, little Shea getting swallowed up by Citi on both sides. Kong76 Feb 15 2009 01:46 PM We took a ride out there today. We packed up a camera, a couple of Heineken keg cans (KB drove) and set out. I was kind of emotional getting ready but by the time we were in the car and on our way I was kinda excited. There were a bunch of people milling about doing the same thing we were and while I didn't talk to anyone we all smiled and nodded to each other like we got it. What we really should have done was cooked a few hot dogs one more time but the beer was enough I guess to count as a tailgate of sorts. The pictures posted all over the internet get redundant after awhile I suppose, but I got a few unique images. metirish Feb 15 2009 02:20 PM Great pictures , thanks. themetfairy Feb 15 2009 03:08 PM Nice shots Kase! LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Feb 15 2009 05:20 PM Thanks, sir. Beautiful and gut-wrenching. (All in all, this offseason's been like a months-long wake... except one where the guests take parts of the deceased with them as souvenirs.) A Boy Named Seo Feb 15 2009 05:30 PM Great shots, man. Love the one of you raising your can of Heiny in salutation. holychicken Feb 15 2009 05:49 PM Whoa, crazy, KC. I was there today too and took some very similar pictures. I was the jackass with my little brown dog off the leash. He was very happy to be out running about like that. Edgy DC Feb 15 2009 06:01 PM Should have a concert out there. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Feb 15 2009 06:05 PM Or an Irish wake? -Loading up on Jameson fifths/Cueing up "Body of an American" on the iPods. Kong76 Feb 15 2009 06:13 PM holyc: I was the jackass with my little brown dog off the leash <<< I didn't see any little brown pups running about. It's funny, but I really thought I'd run into at least one Mets' fan I knew out there. Running into you woulda been cool and we coulda done a Heiny. holychicken Feb 15 2009 07:42 PM Yeah, I figured there would be no one there but the when I saw the number of people there I figured I would see someone I knew. I checked everyone saw there, but didn't recognize anyone as well. I figured my dog would have stuck out tho more than me DocTee Feb 15 2009 08:27 PM Cool pics, thanks for sharing them. Did you pour some of that Heiny on the ground, ghetto style, to remember Shea, your fallen friend? Kong76 Feb 16 2009 01:11 PM Tee: Did you pour some of that Heiny on the ground <<< I have to confess that I did deposit some used Heiny behind some construction materials. Edgy DC Feb 16 2009 01:13 PM I'm going to guess you haven't puked at Shea since October 12, 1982. Kong76 Feb 16 2009 06:24 PM I had to google the date but I didn't yak that night. John Cougar Lunchbucket Feb 17 2009 09:25 AM Nice shotz guys. ah, screw it. Zvon Feb 17 2009 12:28 PM ="SteveJRogers"] ="Iubitul"] ="Iubitul"]hmmmm.... I always saw Matlack in that image... Actually, no. Bob Ojeda. What is that watermark on the other side of the card top? That's the Desert Storm logo/thing they added to sets of cards for the troops overseas back in the day. themetfairy Feb 17 2009 02:00 PM Zvon! How have you been? attgig Feb 17 2009 03:53 PM http://twitpic.com/photos/bluenautica one last piece remaining. Frayed Knot Feb 18 2009 11:14 AM Last piece down (video available via Newsday's main sports page) It's all over but the sweeping. soupcan Feb 24 2009 08:02 AM These I guess are almost a week old. From http://www.stadiumpage.com Edgy DC Feb 24 2009 08:14 AM To heck with your copyright, Gary. soupcan Feb 24 2009 08:32 AM 'Zactly. Zvon Feb 24 2009 02:38 PM ="Edgy DC":33njl1ow]To heck with your copyright, Gary.[/quote:33njl1ow] I'll photoshop that out. Shhhh. holychicken Feb 24 2009 03:59 PM ="Zvon":13ygrx4a] ="Edgy DC":13ygrx4a]To heck with your copyright, Gary.[/quote:13ygrx4a] I'll photoshop that out. Shhhh.[/quote:13ygrx4a] Simple crop job ought to do. Edgy DC Mar 16 2009 02:56 PM Mini-Shea ripped up from the ground. http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/03/16/you-too-can-own-a-piece-of-the-mini-city/ Farmer Ted Mar 16 2009 03:14 PM They couldn't save those two satellite dishes? Coulda saved me a few bucks with DirecTV.

[batmagadanleadoff]

="themetfairy":1vx5k0gu]Note how the players were wearing uniforms that corresponded with the eras when they played.[/quote:1vx5k0gu] I was pleasantly surprised to see this. The Mets are more likely than not to cheap it up one way or another with these kind of ceremonies. Do you remember one particular '69 Mets reunion Old Timers Game? The players were given trucker style baseball caps. It appears though, that they incorrectly gave Willie Mays the same flannelly jersey the '60's Mets wore. In 1972, the Mets had switched to the modern stretch polyester uniform fabric. Mays never wore the flannelly Mets uniform. I'm going by memory here, but Mays would've been the only invitee that should've worn the polyestery 72-77 uniform. Dave Kingman, for example, had a second stint as a Met in the early '80's, and was given the two button uni that the Mets wore during their bad period. Other polyester 72-77 Mets, like Cleon and Garrett and Seaver and Yogi were also Mets before 1972, and so were able to wear the flannel '60's without violating the accuracy of the presentation. Was this an oversight or did the Mets cheap it up on grounds that it wasn't cost efficient (by what -- a hundred bucks?) to produce just one 72-77 uni? I also noticed that the only '90's Mets invited were also associated with the 2000 pennant winners. There were no pure '90's Mets present. (Edgardo Alfonzo, for example, was primarily a '90's Met, but not exclusively). Nobody there wore the button down racing stripes of 91-92 or the underlined Mets unis of 93-94. Nobody there wore my all time favorite Met unis, the 95-97 unis. Personally, I would have liked to see Anthony Young, among many many others, take a bow, just for the irony of it. [u:1vx5k0gu]On Edit[/u:1vx5k0gu]: Felix Millan belonged in a 72-77 poly uni. Does anyone remember which uni he wore during the ceremonies?

SteveJRogers Sep 30 2008 08:14 PM

I thought they should have had Franco represent that entire bridge between the 86ers and the Piazza era by wearing the 1986 style jersey and his old 31. For one as bml said, there was no onelse representing that era, and it really was Franco's peak as a Met closer. Hell, he had lost his closing job by the time 1999 rolled around. Thought it was slightly strange to see Foster in the 1982 style as that was the only year he wore them as a Met. Though it probably doesn't fit him anymore, it was nice to see Ed Kranepool don a jersey other than the last one he ever wore as a Met. I mean he was still wearing that yellowed 1979 home jersey during the 1994 1969 tribute! Speaking of 1969. Next year, 40th Anniversary, boy it will be weird seeing them celebrate it when the place where so many of those great moments will be a parking lot. FWIW since 1988 was never recognized, despite 1973 being honored at all the big milestone years, I guess the 99-00 squad will get a nice big combo bash (I hope anyway, it'd be the only way John Olerud returns) in 2010 for their ten year anniversary of the NL Champs.

batmagadanleadoff Sep 30 2008 08:16 PM

Franco debuted as a Met in 1990. Why would he wear an '86 jersey? Do you think that the actual '86 Mets would want this? This makes no sense.

seawolf17 Sep 30 2008 08:21 PM

What "pure 90s" Mets would you have wanted there? Bonilla? Jeff Kent? Vince Coleman? Those teams kinda sucked. Maybe Bernard Gilkey or Charlie O would have been cool. I'd vote for Pete Harnisch, but that's just my personal bias.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Sep 30 2008 08:24 PM

I always thought Butch Huskey was kinda Metly and 90sish.

batmagadanleadoff Sep 30 2008 08:27 PM

I'm not hung up at all on the idea that pure '90's Mets needed to be invited. I was only noticing though. But since you asked, Olerud for sure. I already mentioned Anthony Young. Todd Hundley. (Was there an issue with Hundley? Maybe he was invited but couldn't attend. I can't remember.) I liked Saberhagen a lot even though he was a bit of an asshole. You can't hold it against any Mets that their teams sucked. Otherwise, most of the invitees would've had to have been uninvited.

SteveJRogers Sep 30 2008 08:37 PM

="batmagadanleadoff":1rti000y]Franco debuted as a Met in 1990. Why would he wear an '86 jersey? Do you think that the actual '86 Mets would want this? This makes no sense.[/quote:1rti000y] 1986 style, eh save for the change in pullover to button down and stitched on lettering instead of a nameplate for the NOB remained through 1992. While I agree that the style that came after the tail and before the black shadow and the snow white tops was a great style, Franco really wasn't Franco during those years. batmagadanleadoff Sep 30 2008 08:43 PM ="SteveJRogers":2b4tvqa5] ="batmagadanleadoff":2b4tvqa5]Franco debuted as a Met in 1990. Why would he wear an '86 jersey? Do you think that the actual '86 Mets would want this? This makes no sense.[/quote:2b4tvqa5] 1986 style, eh save for the change in pullover to button down and stitched on lettering instead of a nameplate for the NOB [/quote:2b4tvqa5] You forgot the anniversary patch the 86 Mets wore. That's what mainly distinguished the 86 uni from the 90 uni. You're right about the stitched on lettering, though. If you wanna get hyper technical, the 1990 unis had the Rawlings logo on the right sleeve. The 86 unis had no Mfr. logo on the sleeves. Frayed Knot Sep 30 2008 08:43 PM The more I read this board the more I realize that virtually everyone knows and cares about uniforms A LOT more than I do. SteveJRogers Sep 30 2008 08:48 PM ="seawolf17":19bd7ajf]What "pure 90s" Mets would you have wanted there? Bonilla? Jeff Kent? Vince Coleman? Those teams kinda sucked. Maybe Bernard Gilkey or Charlie O would have been cool. I'd vote for Pete Harnisch, but that's just my personal bias.[/quote:19bd7ajf] Hmmm, not saying I'd want them there, just saying it is odd to see Franco as a representative of the 1998-2001 Mets with Piazza, Zeile, Leiter, Ventura and Alfonzo. Granted he was there, and was the "captain" but I prefer remembering Franco with his # 31 jersey during the "Worst Team Money Can Buy" era. Put it this way, it would be exactly like seeing Kranepool in a replica of his 1979 home jersey out there. Just doesn't seem right even though he was there. SteveJRogers Sep 30 2008 08:52 PM ="batmagadanleadoff":3fgsp7nc] ="SteveJRogers":3fgsp7nc] ="batmagadanleadoff":3fgsp7nc]Franco debuted as a Met in 1990. Why would he wear an '86 jersey? Do you think that the actual '86 Mets would want this? This makes no sense.[/quote:3fgsp7nc] 1986 style, eh save for the change in pullover to button down and stitched on lettering instead of a nameplate for the NOB [/quote:3fgsp7nc] You forgot the anniversary patch the 86 Mets wore. That's what mainly distinguished the 86 uni from the 90 uni. You're right about the stitched on lettering, though. If you wanna get hyper technical, the 1990 unis had the Rawlings logo on the right sleeve. The 86 unis had no Mfr. logo on the sleeves.[/quote:3fgsp7nc] I didn't notice that the versions of the unis the 86ers were wearing out there had the actual 1986 jersey patch. Course they could have been wearing what they got (except for Doc of course) back in 2006, but the point was more the same style THAT the 1986ers were wearing at the ceremony. Not an actual 1986 Franco # 31 jersey that obviously only would be a Cincy Red jersey! batmagadanleadoff Sep 30 2008 08:57 PM The 86 Mets had the anniversary patch, and what appears to be a Majestic Mfr. Logo. The real 86 unis were manufactured by Rawlings; the sleeves were logoless. Mitchell & Ness made the flannelly '60's unis for Shea Goodbye. Apparently, more than one mfr. was involved in producing the various retro jerseys. AG/DC Sep 30 2008 09:21 PM Pure 90s Mets I salute: Rico Brogna Eddie Murray Todd Hundley, I guess Jose Vizcaino Jeff Kent Mlicki Manzanillo Yoshii While I'm in Japan, I salute Takashi Kashiwada, the man who opened Asia to the Mets. Know who'd be a cool invite (and maybe the Countdown Like It Oughta Be thought of this)? Steve Chilcott. themetfairy Oct 01 2008 02:24 AM Here are some pictures from Ralph Kiner Night (July 14, 2007). The view of Citi Field from the Shea tunnel near Gate E - Fans arriving from the subway - Citi Field rising behind Shea - themetfairy Oct 01 2008 02:27 AM Between the old and the new, before the September 14, 2008 Mr. Met Dash - themetfairy Oct 01 2008 06:07 AM This is an old photo. How old? Pre-MiniKnight old - the kid in the backpack is his older brother, who is now significantly taller than I am, and the little girl is now off to college. Oh, and that's me in the middle. In 1994 the Mets entered into a deal that included the installation of Nickelodeon's Extreme Baseball at Shea mini theme park just beyond right field. Living in the City with a 4-year-old and a toddler, ya gotta believe we made a lot of trips to that park. We were there for its opening, due to D-Dad's business connections, playing in the theme park along with some of the Mets who checked it out before that night's game (the only mar in that incredibly fun evening was the news that Dwight Gooden had entered rehab for the second time). When our planned baseball birthday party for our daughter at Shea (yes - there was a time in her life when she was actually into that kind of thing and didn't wince at the thought of baseball) was unworkable due to the strike, we amended the plan and had her party at the Nickelodeon park (for those of you who remember what Nickelodeon was into back then, you'll be amused to know that I was slimed. Slime is kind of like green vanilla pudding with an odd consistency...). This picture, though, was taken at a more routine time. We were at the park one afternoon (possibly 4th of July) and took a tour of Shea that included the clubhouse and the field. The kids and I sat in the Mets dugout while D-Dad took this picture. I generally hate having my picture taken, but this was an occasion that was worthy of an exception - themetfairy Oct 01 2008 06:12 AM This is a picture that iubitul took. D-Dad, a couple of friends and I had just completed the Run to Home Plate. We're in the Shea outfield, and the picture was taken above from the Picnic Area - (Psst - iubitul - did you ever scan the other photos from that day? There are a couple that would be fun to post if you did). G-Fafif Oct 01 2008 06:19 AM Not a photo-related comment but regarding invitees, Todd Hundley did receive a shoutout from Howie Rose when he ran down the list of those who couldn't be with us today. I was struck that the mostly dismal 1991-1996 Mets were represented by John Franco and nobody else, essentially. HoJo, Sid and Doc played on those teams, but aren't associated with them. Fonzie came up in '95, but he is a part of the postseason teams that came later in the mind's eye. So is Franco, I guess. Only because they went to the trouble of tracking down Doug Flynn, Craig Swan and John Stearns (and Mazzilli, I suppose, though he has '86 bona fides), did I get a little hung up on there not being a Rico Brogna (good fit, I hear), a Lance Johnson, or, as suggested, the Anthony Young. themetfairy Oct 01 2008 06:19 AM MK hanging out with some friends during a Mets Fan Club for Kids clinic. I think this was in 2005 - themetfairy Oct 01 2008 06:39 AM On the day I bought my good camera, I took this shot of David Wright connecting for a homer - Time will tell whether this was beginner's luck, but I'm happy with the shot. Benjamin Grimm Oct 01 2008 07:19 AM ="G-Fafif":2bw2zl3t]Not a photo-related comment but regarding invitees, Todd Hundley did receive a shoutout from Howie Rose when he ran down the list of those who couldn't be with us today. I was struck that the mostly dismal 1991-1996 Mets were represented by John Franco and nobody else, essentially. HoJo, Sid and Doc played on those teams, but aren't associated with them. Fonzie came up in '95, but he is a part of the postseason teams that came later in the mind's eye. So is Franco, I guess. Only because they went to the trouble of tracking down Doug Flynn, Craig Swan and John Stearns (and Mazzilli, I suppose, though he has '86 bona fides), did I get a little hung up on there not being a Rico Brogna (good fit, I hear), a Lance Johnson, or, as suggested, the Anthony Young.[/quote:2bw2zl3t] I was thinking along similar lines this morning in the car. There weren't many players present whose careers were strictly in the lean years and the in-between years. There were a few guys from the 1960's, like Frank Thomas, and 70's guys like Flynn, Swan, Stearns, and Kingman, but overall, very few of the returnees were guys who didn't appear in a World Series for the Mets. batmagadanleadoff Oct 01 2008 09:50 AM ="G-Fafif":1bl0kw4g]Only because they went to the trouble of tracking down Doug Flynn, Craig Swan and John Stearns (and Mazzilli, I suppose, though he has '86 bona fides), did I get a little hung up on there not being a Rico Brogna (good fit, I hear), a Lance Johnson, or, as suggested, the Anthony Young.[/quote:1bl0kw4g] Though I would've liked to see Anthony Young walk onto the Shea field last Sunday, as I already mentioned, I did not reasonably expect to see him. Until George Theodore was announced. Once The Stork was delivered, I thought that anything was possible and that everyone was in play. But not Bobby Bonilla. G-Fafif Oct 01 2008 10:05 AM ="batmagadanleadoff":36rnfjz9] ="G-Fafif":36rnfjz9]Only because they went to the trouble of tracking down Doug Flynn, Craig Swan and John Stearns (and Mazzilli, I suppose, though he has '86 bona fides), did I get a little hung up on there not being a Rico Brogna (good fit, I hear), a Lance Johnson, or, as suggested, the Anthony Young.[/quote:36rnfjz9] Though I would've liked to see Anthony Young walk onto the Shea field last Sunday, as I already mentioned, I did not reasonably expect to see him. Until George Theodore was announced. Once The Stork was delivered, I thought that anything was possible and that everyone was in play. But not Bobby Bonilla.[/quote:36rnfjz9] Shea Amnesty could have been the theme and everybody but Vince Coleman could have been welcomed and absolved. I could have applauded Bonilla. I could have applauded Alomar. I could have applauded Hebner just for old times' sake. I think, if sufficiently intoxicated, I could have applauded Glavine. But not Vince Coleman. A.Y., however, needed no amnesty. He was always treated well amid the disaster that went down around him. It would have been a classy Storklike move. themetfairy Oct 01 2008 02:26 PM MiniKnight's first game at Shea - I love how D-Dad caught Mr. Met's pixelated image smiling and waving on the scoreboard in the background. metsguyinmichigan Oct 01 2008 08:40 PM That's Mr. Met bestowing his blessing! Awesome shot! themetfairy Oct 01 2008 09:01 PM D-Dad says thanks soupcan Oct 02 2008 08:58 AM Not a Shea photo per se but still... I was looking through a box of crap in my attic and came across a Mets scorecard from 1985. I thought 'how cool would it be if this was from opening day and I actually scored it?'. I opened it up and guess what - it was and I did. Surprising to me because that opener I drove down from Syracuse with about 6-7 fraternity brothers and sat in the bitter cold of the upper deck. I'm sure I was drunk and my hands were frozen. In those days though I did score pretty much every game I went to. I checked UMDB against my log and I didn't do a half-bad job... Heep appears in the boxscore but not on my card, until you look closer - In the 7th it appears Heep was announced but I suppose Whitey replaced Campbell with Hassler for the lefty/righty thing so John Christensen took the AB. You can see that I wrote Heep's name but then crossed it out. Why was Davey PH-ing Heep for Straw though? Game was tied 5-5 men on first and second 2 out. What am I not seeing or remembering? Also - Note that Staub pinch-hit in the 9th and Darling ran for him. John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 02 2008 09:10 AM Holy shit, nice handwriting. Are you an architect? soupcan Oct 02 2008 09:11 AM Oh gosh really? Thanks. Its usually much neater, I was kind of embarassed to post it because I thought it was pretty sloppy. Not an architect but an illustrator in a previous life. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 09:13 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 02 2008 09:15 AM Strawberry opened the 1985 season hurt. His opening day start was in question and he did not play at all in the Mets next game. He missed a significant amount of playing time in 1985 to injuries. May I ask what frat you belonged to? Centerfield Oct 02 2008 09:13 AM ="themetfairy"]MiniKnight's first game at Shea - I love how D-Dad caught Mr. Met's pixelated image smiling and waving on the scoreboard in the background. That's amazing. MK already looks like himself. Not sure if that made any sense. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 09:17 AM How come my post above displays a "last edited" note even though this is the very next post? soupcan Oct 02 2008 09:19 AM ="batmagadanleadoff"]May I ask what frat you belonged to? Thanks for the Strawberry answer. HahnSolo Oct 02 2008 09:21 AM ="soupcan":3uc7yjo2] In those days though I did score pretty much every game I went to.[/quote:3uc7yjo2] You scored in the Shea upper deck? I should hang out at more games with you. metirish Oct 02 2008 09:24 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 02 2008 09:25 AM Brilliant posts from metfairy and soup...MF , the Mets cap looks over sized....what happened? Great score card soup , I scored my first game ever this season, in the second to last row up top behind home plate. It didn't look anything like yours though... soupcan Oct 02 2008 09:24 AM ="HahnSolo":2y3lkhxq]You scored in the Shea upper deck? I should hang out at more games with you.[/quote:2y3lkhxq] It was a looooong time ago. Its in me but its been hibernating for a while. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 09:29 AM ="soupcan":3jnfvsp6]Thanks for the Strawberry answer.[/quote:3jnfvsp6] That's on Comstock, with a lot of other frat houses, right? Did you see my Sherman Douglas post[/url:3jnfvsp6] from a few days ago? soupcan Oct 02 2008 09:32 AM Yup. 721 Comstock to be exact. I did see the Douglas post, you were right. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 09:33 AM Back on topic. Frayed Knot Oct 02 2008 09:34 AM ="batmagadanleadoff"]Strawberry opened the 1985 season hurt. His opening day start was in question and he did not play at all in the Mets next game. He missed a significant amount of playing time in 1985 to injuries. Most of his missed time was on account of when he rolled over on his thumb making a catch in a game I was at - in mid-May I think it was. ]How come my post above displays a "last edited" note even though this is the very next post? All that means is that you edited something in that post after the thread was active again. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 09:39 AM ="Frayed Knot":nd2dud0e] ="batmagadanleadoff":nd2dud0e]Strawberry opened the 1985 season hurt. His opening day start was in question and he did not play at all in the Mets next game. He missed a significant amount of playing time in 1985 to injuries.[/quote:nd2dud0e] Most of his missed time was on account of when he rolled over on his thumb making a catch in a game I was at - in mid-May I think it was. [/quote:nd2dud0e] You're right. But he opened the season with a nagging injury as well. I have the video of that complete game. I'll try and find it but it may take me a while, because I haven't converted that tape to disc. My old VHS's are a disorganized mess. dgwphotography Oct 02 2008 09:43 AM Soup - that's great stuff. I was sitting down underneath in the loge that day. Freaking Hernandez - strikes out in a big spot leading off the top of the 10th. So unclutch. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 09:49 AM ="Frayed Knot":itaev3d1]All that means is that you edited something in that post after the thread was active again.[/quote:itaev3d1] What do you mean by "thread was active again"? Based on experience, I thought that the "last edited" notation was activated only if the post was edited after someone else posted a subsequent message. soupcan Oct 02 2008 09:55 AM ="batmagadanleadoff":2of6od08]What do you mean by "thread was active again"? Based on experience, I thought that the "last edited" notation was activated only if the post was edited after someone else posted a subsequent message.[/quote:2of6od08] You edited at 11:15. CF posted at 11:13. OE: No, I'm wrong. That's weird. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 10:01 AM ="soupcan":3pdd5j9f] ="batmagadanleadoff":3pdd5j9f]What do you mean by "thread was active again"? Based on experience, I thought that the "last edited" notation was activated only if the post was edited after someone else posted a subsequent message.[/quote:3pdd5j9f] You edited at 11:15. CF posted at 11:13[/quote:3pdd5j9f] I dunno about that. When I originally posted that message, it appeared after CF's post. Why would my subsequent minute later edit appear based on an unedited post showing prior to my post, and thus, prior to my edit? batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 10:02 AM ="soupcan":2yeh8i49]OE: No, I'm wrong. That's weird.[/quote:2yeh8i49] Now you get it. themetfairy Oct 02 2008 10:38 AM ="Centerfield"] ="themetfairy"]MiniKnight's first game at Shea - I love how D-Dad caught Mr. Met's pixelated image smiling and waving on the scoreboard in the background. That's amazing. MK already looks like himself. Not sure if that made any sense. It makes sense. He's recognizable, even at three weeks old. Irish - I'm not sure what was up with the hat. That soon after a C-section I thought I was doing well getting dressed at all seawolf17 Oct 02 2008 12:03 PM Actually, as long as the message has been read at least once, then it gets the "edited" tag. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 02:26 PM ="seawolf17":neearbs2]Actually, as long as the message has been read at least once, then it gets the "edited" tag.[/quote:neearbs2] I'm not convinced because I know for sure that on occasion, I have edited some of my messages as much as a day after posting them. So long as my message in question was always the last one in the thread, the "last edited" note was never triggered. I know that others read the post after it was posted but prior to my edit based on the page view count. So based on my personal use, merely reading a post wouldn't be enough to trigger the edited notation if that post was ever to be edited. AG/DC Oct 02 2008 02:31 PM How about if somebody else had already hit the response button, even if they hadn't submitted? Frayed Knot Oct 02 2008 02:34 PM I think the mods should just confess that they're monitoring all of BatMags movements and activities. Nothing personal mind you, just be careful what you say in the bathroom. You never know who's listening. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 02:47 PM ="Frayed Knot":1klmkujp]I think the mods should just confess that they're monitoring all of BatMags movements and activities. Nothing personal mind you, just be careful what you say in the bathroom. You never know who's listening.[/quote:1klmkujp] That's what I always thought. Do you know that my avatar disappeared mysteriously? And that the feature that would allow me to simply submit another avatar is missing from my control panel or whatever it's called? What do you make of that, huh? dgwphotography Oct 02 2008 02:55 PM I don't remember if I've posted this one before: Fireworks Night, July 3, 2006: soupcan Oct 02 2008 03:02 PM Wow. cooby Oct 02 2008 03:37 PM ="soupcan":1twkt7gk] In those days though I did score pretty much every game I went to.[/quote:1twkt7gk] HAHAHAH, I am sure though that by now somebody else has already beaten me to this line, I'll go back and look cooby Oct 02 2008 03:40 PM Yep! themetfairy Oct 02 2008 03:50 PM ="Iubitul":2bej8qlv]I don't remember if I've posted this one before: Fireworks Night, July 3, 2006: [/quote:2bej8qlv] Whether it's a rerun or not, it's gorgeous. soupcan Oct 02 2008 04:48 PM ="cooby":1hpi6tfp] ="soupcan":1hpi6tfp] In those days though I did score pretty much every game I went to.[/quote:1hpi6tfp] HAHAHAH, I am sure though that by now somebody else has already beaten me to this line, I'll go back and look[/quote:1hpi6tfp] DOH! I didn't realize HahnSolo was taking the piss! I'm a moron. metsguyinmichigan Oct 02 2008 07:27 PM ="themetfairy":2i6sr6pi] ="Iubitul":2i6sr6pi]I don't remember if I've posted this one before: Fireworks Night, July 3, 2006: [/quote:2i6sr6pi] Whether it's a rerun or not, it's gorgeous.[/quote:2i6sr6pi] Clearly you're too good at this for it to just be a hobby. Are you a professional? I'm just in awe. I snapped shots of some of the same small details that you did -- like the little NYs in the grates around the trees -- yet you picked a really cool, unconventional angle to shoot it. Beautiful and creative. dgwphotography Oct 03 2008 12:32 AM ="metsguyinmichigan"] Clearly you're too good at this for it to just be a hobby. Are you a professional? I'm just in awe. I snapped shots of some of the same small details that you did -- like the little NYs in the grates around the trees -- yet you picked a really cool, unconventional angle to shoot it. Beautiful and creative. Thanks metsguy. I'm not a professional, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night... Seriously, it's a hobby - I'm a web developer by trade. But, it's also a passion that centers me. I can have a completely lousy day at work, but if I get to spend 15 productive minutes behind my camera, I'm completely relaxed and centered... Here's a couple of oldies. Please ignore the quality - my film scanner isn't working, so I had to scan the prints on a flatbed... July 4, 1986 - Nolan Ryan pitching to Gary Carter: September 18, 1986 - The best part of this pic is Backman's expression. Hungover much? John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 03 2008 05:46 AM Just look how much better those old shots look without Keyspan signs, giant dunkin donuts cups, too-dark blue paint, etc etc. This thread is going to make me dig out what I can find, but I'll start with this classikc: batmagadanleadoff Oct 03 2008 08:24 AM ="Iubitul":1jek1hyd]I don't remember if I've posted this one before: Fireworks Night, July 3, 2006: [/quote:1jek1hyd] I was surprised to read that you're not a pro. Professional is the first word that came to my mind when I saw this beautiful picture of Shea with the fireworks. Where were you sitting (or standing) when you took the picture of Carter batting against Ryan? AG/DC Oct 03 2008 08:33 AM If I remember him describing that photo last year, he put his camera down, satisfied he got the shot he wanted, and noticed the Mets team photographer right next to him going for the same shot. seawolf17 Oct 03 2008 08:34 AM Lost in that shot is the kid in the Wright shirt, bottom right corner, watching the fireworks. A nice touch. dgwphotography Oct 03 2008 11:56 AM ="batmagadanleadoff":2duv67l2]Where were you sitting (or standing) when you took the picture of Carter batting against Ryan?[/quote:2duv67l2] Thanks :-) I was able to sneak down to the first row behind home plate - got a lot of good shots that were on KC's site. dgwphotography Oct 03 2008 12:04 PM ="AG/DC":1gfkczpr]If I remember him describing that photo last year, he put his camera down, satisfied he got the shot he wanted, and noticed the Mets team photographer right next to him going for the same shot.[/quote:1gfkczpr] That was the first time I shot the fireworks, back in 1990. They had a photo contest sponsored by Kodak every year - I had won in the memorabilia category in 1989, and had my picture in the 1990 yearbook. So, I had the idea to try and shoot the fireworks that July - that's when I ran into Marc Lavine. When the 1991 yearbook came, and I saw his fireworks shot on the cover, I knew there was no way that mine made it into the yearbook. There's a post script to that story: I ran into Marc again in 2006. I snuck around to behind home plate in loge to take pictures of Mike Pelfrey in his ML debut. Marc was standing in the walkway right next to me. A security guard came over and started giving Marc a hard time about standing there. I leaned over the railing and asked him, "What, doesn't he recognize you?" Gotta love the security at Shea. Kong76 Oct 03 2008 05:44 PM The old school stuff is still there if anyone wants to re-explore .... http://www.kcmets.com/DGWPhotography/photonew1.htm metsguyinmichigan Oct 03 2008 05:48 PM I love the wallpaper shot of Reyes as a B-Met! SteveJRogers Oct 03 2008 06:25 PM ="Iubitul":2lf7a8xg] They had a photo contest sponsored by Kodak every year - I had won in the memorabilia category in 1989, and had my picture in the 1990 yearbook.[/quote:2lf7a8xg] I'm shocked that a Nikonian like you would stoop so low as to enter a contest run by Kodak! = dgwphotography Oct 03 2008 06:43 PM ="SteveJRogers":38evkptp] ="Iubitul":38evkptp] They had a photo contest sponsored by Kodak every year - I had won in the memorabilia category in 1989, and had my picture in the 1990 yearbook.[/quote:38evkptp] I'm shocked that a Nikonian like you would stoop so low as to enter a contest run by Kodak! =[/quote:38evkptp] Film, Steve. Film. I loved Kodak 64 slide film. Actually, starting in 1995, Kodak offered the DCS460[/url:38evkptp]. It was a 6mp digital camera which used a Nikon N90s SLR for the body. soupcan Oct 03 2008 09:07 PM ="Iubitul":2hzt6uz2]That was the first time I shot the fireworks, back in 1990. They had a photo contest sponsored by Kodak every year - I had won in the memorabilia category in 1989, and had my picture in the 1990 yearbook. [/quote:2hzt6uz2] So I read this and flipped through my '90 yearbook - holy cow - is (was) all that stuff in the picture yours? G-Fafif Oct 04 2008 04:04 AM I ran back to the '90 yearbook as well and was quite impressed with the collection as well as the photograph. A copy of "Nails" even! I'll bet Lenny Dykstra never read it. dgwphotography Oct 04 2008 05:28 AM Thanks guys. Yes, all that stuff in the picture is mine, and that collection has only grown... Of course I have a copy of Nails, my wife was such a big Dykstra fan, she even, gulp, rooted for the Phillies for a while when he got traded... soupcan Oct 06 2008 07:57 AM Taken on Opening Day 1987... Notice that there are no neon players on Shea yet. Sorry about the quality - haven't figured out the best settings for photos on the scanner yet. metirish Oct 06 2008 08:06 AM Those are great pictures soup , maybe it's the contrast but it looks cold and bleak that day.Is that guy wearing a batting helmet? DocTee Oct 06 2008 08:07 AM If you hadn't told me those were from 1987, I'd ve guessed they were from a decade earlier (based on the vehicles in the parking lot). AG/DC Oct 06 2008 08:08 AM Old school. That's how Met fans roll. soupcan Oct 06 2008 08:15 AM ="metirish":1lvfa5e8]Those are great pictures soup , maybe it's the contrast but it looks cold and bleak that day.Is that guy wearing a batting helmet?[/quote:1lvfa5e8] Cold and bleak - yes. Batting helmet - yes. ="DocTee":1lvfa5e8]If you hadn't told me those were from 1987, I'd ve guessed they were from a decade earlier (based on the vehicles in the parking lot).[/quote:1lvfa5e8] I agree - isn't it funny how its always the cars in photos that give a person a sense of the age of the picture? ="AG/DC":1lvfa5e8]Old school. That's how Met fans roll.[/quote:1lvfa5e8] Damn skippy. soupcan Oct 06 2008 08:31 AM Notice no skyline on the scoreboard. Round cut-outs in foul territory on either side of the plate. Never knew what those were for until I watched a DVD of game 4 of the '69 Series. During player intros before the game, Cuellar was warming up in it, tossing from there. Can you see straw-hat, hand-rolling lady in the front row behind homeplate? That's before they added the additional VIP seats and effectively put her 10 or so rows back. What the heck's going on at second base? AG/DC Oct 06 2008 08:37 AM I like the life-size bendable plastic Keith Hernandez figure out there. Nothing says "dreary opening day" like Ralph Kiner walking alone through the shade in his raincoat. soupcan Oct 06 2008 09:06 AM You think that's Ralph? I was going to guess Cashen. metirish Oct 06 2008 09:07 AM I was thinking M. Donald Grant . soupcan Oct 06 2008 09:08 AM He was long gone by then. metirish Oct 06 2008 09:08 AM Of course he wasn't even with the mets then...never mind me. Actually I meant Nelson Doubleday but I'm still probably wrong. soupcan Oct 06 2008 09:23 AM That could be Nelson. I don't think his hair was completely white yet in '87. batmagadanleadoff Oct 06 2008 09:24 AM I think it's Cashen, though it's hard to tell. I don't think it's Kiner; that's not Ralph's way of walking. AG/DC Oct 06 2008 09:26 AM Funny, I think that's exactly what makes him look Kineriffic. Funnier still is that I doubt either of us has seen Kiner walk more than a handful of times, but we both have a distinctive impression. Among other reasons, I think it's Ralph because he appears to be coming from a press scrum. batmagadanleadoff Oct 06 2008 09:31 AM ="soupcan"]That could be Nelson. I don't think his hair was completely white yet in '87. Maybe not, but it was surely on its way. That was the first game back since Wilpon wrested away Nelson's controlling interest in the club. Straw and Keith went at each other that Spring. Doc was in Smithers and at age 22, would never be consistently great again. Backman's "forty fuckin' car crashes" was already proving prophetic figuratively, if not literally. John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 06 2008 09:41 AM I would guess Doubleday. themetfairy Oct 06 2008 09:50 AM A couple of pictures from the 1987 opener - Opening ceremonies - First Pitch - John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 06 2008 09:57 AM Check out skinny Barry soupcan Oct 06 2008 10:00 AM Nice ones Fairy. Apparently you had much better seats than me... AG/DC Oct 06 2008 10:00 AM I like the area around the apple hat, strewn with empty crates and lurking hoods. metirish Oct 06 2008 10:03 AM I like how metfairy's picture helps answer who the people out in center field are in the picture soup posted, kind of cool that two members can post similar pictures for the same opening day in 1987. Farmer Ted Oct 06 2008 10:09 AM Any photos of Banner Day in the archives? Those would a nice treat. themetfairy Oct 06 2008 10:11 AM ="soupcan":19xbemwi]Nice ones Fairy. Apparently you had much better seats than me...[/quote:19xbemwi] Thanks soup. I worked for a law firm in 1987. There were only two good things about the job. One was my office (Empire State Building, 49th Floor, southern view) and the other was that the firm had season tickets and one of the partners would occasionally offer two of the seats to D-Dad and me. themetfairy Oct 06 2008 11:23 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 06 2008 11:45 AM I went into the old photo albums to scan some pictures from 1994's Nickelodeon's Extreme Baseball at Shea experiment. These are from the VIP Opening Party on June 28, 1994. I have pictures of each of my kids at about age 2 with John Franco. This is the one with my older son - We wouldn't have wanted to try to wipe the smile off of Bobby Bo's face - Back in 1994, we had no reason to dislike Jose Vizcaino - themetfairy Oct 06 2008 11:25 AM July 4, 1994. I previously posted the picture of myself with the kids in the dugout. Here are some other photos from that day. From the stadium tour that we took that day - themetfairy Oct 06 2008 11:30 AM Those of you who know my daughter now will be shocked to hear that there was a time she actually rooted for the Mets. We planned to have her 5th birthday at a game at Shea, but the plans were changed on account of strike. We had the birthday at the Nickelodeon park instead. The birthday girl - Cute cake - If you remember Nickelodeon at the time, slime was a big thing. The birthday girl didn't want to be slimed herself, but wanted to slime her mom instead. Let it not be said that I've never done anything for that girl - metirish Oct 06 2008 11:41 AM Absolutely classic , the clothes the uniforms , the sunglasses , everything. We need a thread for classic Mets and Shea pictures like these. Benjamin Grimm Oct 06 2008 12:02 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 06 2008 12:04 PM .. Benjamin Grimm Oct 06 2008 12:03 PM I've been thinking of putting a Shea slideshow on the UMDB. I have a few pictures of my own of the "Shea experience" that I've taken over the last couple of years. Some with architectural details, some of fans crowding through the gates, etc. I've been meaning to ask for submissions of similar photos, and I guess this is as good a time and place as any to start. I'm more interested in "neutral" photos rather than those that feature smiling friends or family members. Some of the photos posted in this thread would be great for that. If anyone who's posted any photos objects to the pictures being used in this manner, please let me know. (I intend to specifically ask permission to use any of these before I actually do so.) A couple of weeks ago I created a prototype slide show. Take a peek if you like: http://www.leaptoad.com/mets/slidetest.php Some day there will be similar slideshows available to all visitors, and they'll have individual themes. Right now I'm slowly putting together one that will capture the events surrounding the final day at Shea Stadium. themetfairy Oct 06 2008 12:32 PM Nice slideshow BG. And I have no objection if you'd like to use any photo that I've posted on the UMDB metirish Oct 06 2008 12:34 PM I like the prototype, nice work. themetfairy Oct 06 2008 06:07 PM May 30, 1999 was a Beanie Babies giveaway day at Shea. I was writing for Mary Beth's Bean Bag World Magazine at the time, and i was able to get press credentials for the game. I was constantly expecting security to tap me on the shoulder and tell me that I didn't belong on the field, but they didn't. Here's my press pass - Diamond Vision - D-Dad took this shot of me from the Field Level - Olerud and the Shea Scoreboard - The Diamond Vision later, from the Upper Deck - Pictures of players to follow.... themetfairy Oct 06 2008 06:12 PM Most of the players were incredibly good sports about having their picture taken with the Beanie Baby du Jour. My big regret was not asking Bobby Valentine for a picture, A) because he would have; and it was a Valentina Beanie Baby. The only one who turned me down was Todd Pratt, but since he was signing autographs at the time I'll give him a pass on that. Rey Ordonez - Roger Cedeno (whose solo homer provided the Mets with their only run as they lost that day) - Edgardo Alfonzo - Mike Piazza (who not only posed for this picture, but graciously gave me a little blather quote for my article) - Benny Agbayani - Fman99 Oct 06 2008 08:08 PM Great pictures MetFairy. How awesome to see those guys being good sports. Man I loved that '99 squad. themetfairy Oct 06 2008 08:23 PM They were a great bunch, for sure. cooby Oct 06 2008 09:16 PM NICE seawolf17 Oct 07 2008 12:57 PM Funny photos. What a neat experience. themetfairy Oct 07 2008 01:41 PM Thanks. It was surreal, and very cool soupcan Oct 13 2008 07:27 AM No seats! AG/DC Oct 13 2008 07:44 AM Well, that one guy has a seat. I think we can take him. metsguyinmichigan Oct 13 2008 09:51 AM He's guarding the stop sign before the people from MeiGray come to pick it up for the auction. soupcan Oct 15 2008 08:46 PM Found these pictures in a thread at baseball fever... AG/DC Oct 15 2008 09:44 PM Agh. themetfairy Oct 16 2008 04:42 AM That one gave me a bad dream last night Benjamin Grimm Oct 16 2008 08:13 AM I found this one the most painful: metirish Oct 16 2008 08:14 AM Great pictures , thanks soup. AG/DC Oct 16 2008 08:24 AM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ut1H4o_ie8c metirish Oct 16 2008 08:50 AM Great song edgy , a blast form the past. dgwphotography Oct 16 2008 09:01 AM I think I'm going through the anger phase of mourning. I'm sure I'll come around, but right now, I just so angry over everything regarding the dismantling of Shea, and the move to his corporate playground. Through it all, I keep getting the feeling that Shea was ours, and CitiField belongs to him. Bastard. AG/DC Oct 16 2008 09:19 AM I don'think it's us against him when the vast majority of the fans and media supported the move. If so, it's a slender us. Farmer Ted Oct 16 2008 10:52 AM Painful. But ther new place will be a treat. themetfairy Oct 16 2008 11:06 AM The new place will be ours. We'll make it ours, dammit! G-Fafif Oct 16 2008 03:51 PM Tour[/url:24y3xk17] of Citi Field parking lot... metirish Oct 16 2008 06:05 PM Whats with the actual hole in the pitchers mound? Benjamin Grimm Oct 16 2008 06:53 PM I'm guessing there was something buried under the mound that they wanted to retrieve. I don't have a great guess as to what it was. My best guess is some kind of camera, but I don't recall seeing any mounds-eye views on any telecasts. soupcan Oct 16 2008 07:06 PM ="metirish":35vh26wx]Whats with the actual hole in the pitchers mound?[/quote:35vh26wx] I'm guessing that they dug up the pitching rubber - to sell it of course - and that hole is a result. dgwphotography Oct 16 2008 07:18 PM no - I think that was where the plumbing was for the hose they used to water down the infield.... soupcan Oct 17 2008 07:31 AM ="Iubitul"]no - I think that was where the plumbing was for the hose they used to water down the infield.... Makes more sense. Wonder how much they're selling that for Zvon Oct 19 2008 06:48 PM I didn't realize this til recently. I thought I was bummed at seasons end because the team failed to get to the post season. But being a Met fan for 40 years, this is really something I'm used to. For the team, there was/is always next year. But this was it for Shea.... This is what really bummed me out. That they couldn't get Shea to the post season one more time. That would have been the way send her off. Great pictures here posted by all, and really fun to view. Iubitul, your pictures of Shea are breathtaking. Absolutely breathtaking and beautiful. Everybody, thanks for sharing them. themetfairy Oct 19 2008 06:51 PM Warewolf! Good to see you, man. Don't be a stranger! metirish Oct 20 2008 12:29 PM Found this persons work over at Faith & Fear( looks like a few have been posted here already) , very extensive collection of great pictures. What does picture #40 show? picnic area? http://sports.webshots.com/album/568107635SUQZeD Read this from Jason over at Faith and Fear. http://www.faithandfearinflushing.com/ Farmer Ted Oct 20 2008 07:37 PM Where the heck are they storing 55,000 seats? metsguyinmichigan Oct 21 2008 08:21 AM Uniwatch reports that the Agee marker appears to have been saved! Willets Point Oct 21 2008 08:25 AM ="Farmer Ted"]Where the heck are they storing 55,000 seats? dgwphotography Oct 22 2008 04:55 AM ="metsguyinmichigan"] Uniwatch reports that the Agee marker appears to have been saved! Yeah - probably to be sold... soupcan Oct 22 2008 07:40 AM Farmer Ted Oct 22 2008 02:52 PM I share Belushi's reaction. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gI3nb9x5VhY Zvon Oct 22 2008 06:11 PM ="soupcan"] Oh my.... This is difficult to witness. PiggiesTomatoes Oct 24 2008 08:29 PM A couple of shots from my only game this season -- at least it was a win. The only win against the pitiful Mariners this season. Down in Tampa now and don't get back to NY all that often for games. > My basehit at Shea. Fantasy Camp reunion in 2006... The place may have been a bit of a dump but it was our dump. Rockin' Doc Oct 25 2008 05:37 AM Nice pictures. Welcome to the pool. Nice handle, I hope you stick around. metirish Oct 25 2008 05:46 AM ="PiggiesTomatoes":2399a9u7] The place may have been a bit of a dump but it was our dump.[/quote:2399a9u7] Thank you and welcome. metsguyinmichigan Oct 25 2008 01:01 PM Great photos! I can't imagine how glorious it was to get that hit. Welcome aBordick! themetfairy Oct 25 2008 01:43 PM This little piggy is a welcome addition to the Pool - Welcome Zvon Oct 25 2008 07:00 PM Excellent pics Piggie! Actually batting at Shea must have been an incredible experience. Is that a female catcher? PiggiesTomatoes Oct 25 2008 07:59 PM Thanks, everyone, for the kind words. I'd joined some time ago but didn't visit for a while, then got locked out and getting back in was a bitch! Riffraff filter must work. Getting to play on the field was a thrill and yes, it was a female catcher. She was the only female in camp and was a trooper. Regards, JF Kong76 Oct 26 2008 05:03 PM PT: joined some time ago but didn't visit for a while, then got locked out and getting back in was a bitch! Riffraff filter must work <<< Read your email around 9 AM on Fri and answered, and had you set up before 6 PM that same day. No one was locked out and getting back was as easy as sending an email. PiggiesTomatoes Oct 26 2008 07:33 PM I wasn't being critical...thought that use of the term riffraff filter would have communicated sarcasm. That said, I'd attempted logging in unsuccessfully with my original password without luck and when I tried to use the forgot password link, I repeatedly received a message that my name and email address did not match. Then, I was unable to find an email address on the forum to contact, ultimately "googling" to find the admin addy. It wasn't easy...but I do appreciate the prompt reply once I emailed the correct address. JF G-Fafif Oct 26 2008 07:38 PM PT, Great pictures. At first glance I wondered how the Mariners game was suddenly being played in daylight. Per your sobriquet, let us know who will be ready first: Hausman or Kobel. Kong76 Oct 27 2008 05:41 AM Maybe it's me and I'm just being cranky and defensive but the email address is right up top: Everybody in the pool! Joining us for off-season hot stove discussion is easy. Shoot us an email [click here] Glad you re-found us. Willets Point Oct 27 2008 01:12 PM Welcome Piggie! You can hold the conch while you're here. soupcan Oct 28 2008 10:54 AM will the Dunkin' Dounts cup be the last man standing? metirish Oct 28 2008 10:57 AM Helps keep the workers running. Gwreck Oct 28 2008 11:46 AM It's somewhat refreshing that nobody was dumb enough to shell out the ~$5000 the greedy MeiGray group was asking for it. AG/DC Oct 28 2008 11:47 AM Or they're moving it to the new digs. seawolf17 Oct 28 2008 01:12 PM It'd be funny if they just left it in the parking lot. Benjamin Grimm Oct 28 2008 01:22 PM They do seem to have demolished around it. Maybe it will be moved to Citi Field. I imagine the new place will have some advertising, no? SteveJRogers Oct 28 2008 01:23 PM ="Gwreck":1zlwh6r8]It's somewhat refreshing that nobody was dumb enough to shell out the ~$5000 the greedy MeiGray group was asking for it.[/quote:1zlwh6r8] Say what you will about memorabilia sellers like MeiGray and Steiner, that probably really is the going rate for that kind of unique advertising as memorabilia. Honestly, there probably is a market for stuff like that; McDonald arches, Big Boys Big Boy, etc. Just no one that got involved in the Shea Memorabilia auctions was into it. metirish Oct 28 2008 01:28 PM ="SteveJRogers":1991yy98] Say what you will about memorabilia sellers like MeiGray and Steiner,[/quote:1991yy98] Thank you , I will. Fucking scum they are. Benjamin Grimm Oct 28 2008 01:33 PM I'm not sure I understand the animosity. metirish Oct 28 2008 01:39 PM Well he said say what you want so I did.... soupcan Oct 28 2008 02:15 PM I guess as long as there are people out there who are willing to pay those ridiculous prices then I don't have an issue with someone charging it. Capitalism and all that. I am upset at the kind of money they are asking for stuff though. I intended to get a pair of seats but $869.00? Really? For what will amount to a novelty in my yard? Then I looked around the website and I thought that this: ...would be cool. But those are up over $1,200.00. They so take advantage of our own feelings towards the team - hundreds of dollars for bricks, almost a grand for seats. Its just a little disappointing is all. soupcan Nov 01 2008 11:01 AM Say goodbye to the shrimpeaters! Field level frst base side is the first to go. Valadius Nov 01 2008 11:21 AM Do they HAVE to have debris strewn around that wonderful field? Kong76 Nov 01 2008 11:26 AM SJR: Say what you will about memorabilia sellers like MeiGray <<< Irish: Thank you , I will. Fucking scum they are <<< I know the guy who was the first premier club guy in line and I didn't get the impression that the guys willing to spend the cash thought MeiGray was hus- tling anyone ... they're brokers. He advertised the event to everyone on his memorabilia buying list and I assume he did so to generate interest among those who were obviously interested. I hope he got a kick back, it's the American way! I wrote back that they're gonna cause a few divorces to which he quipped, "never tell your wife what you're really spending on Mets' stuff!" soupcan Nov 01 2008 11:49 AM ="Valadius":3pluypt1]Do they HAVE to have debris strewn around that wonderful field?[/quote:3pluypt1] I think that's kinda unavoidable when you're tearing a structure down. What are they supposed to do - follow the bulldozers around with a broom and dustpan? metsmarathon Nov 01 2008 02:40 PM that's just silly. what they should do is gingerly remove each and every peice the way it was originally put in, and delicately hand carry it out of the stadium grounds, stepping only on the red carpet laid across the field, and place each dutifully salvaged quantum of the stadium into its own velvet lined receptacle wherein it will remain interred through the end of time. soupcan Nov 03 2008 07:55 AM Dunkin' Donuts Down! Benjamin Grimm Nov 03 2008 07:57 AM I expected it would be surrounded by a large puddle of spilled coffee. soupcan Nov 03 2008 07:57 AM Link There are more pictures on the site. ] November 1, 2008 Bulk of Shea Stadium awaits sale in Bridgewater company's warehouse By MICHAEL DEAK Staff Writer From the outside it looks like an unremarkable warehouse, not like the pyramids in Egypt that were built as mausoleums for the pharaohs. But inside that squat warehouse are treasures that, for New York Mets fans, are as valuable as anything that has ever been found inside the pyramids. It is the Bridgewater warehouse of the MeiGray Group, which has the task of selling all the contents of Shea Stadium, except for the seats. Warren resident Barry Meisel, a former sportswriter for the New York Daily News who is the president and chief operating officer of the MeiGray Group, doesn't want the exact location of the warehouse disclosed for security reasons because it houses thousands of items saved from Shea Stadium before the stadium's slow demolition started earlier this month. Everything is for sale, except for two items that Meisel bought for himself � a picture of the celebration after the Mets clinched the World Series in 1969, and the portion of the center field wall that bears the 410-foot marker. "I always wanted that," he said. Memorabilia Meisel estimated that the warehouse contains from 5,000 to 7,000 items from Shea Stadium. Some of the items are relatively minor, such as the hundreds of nameplates that were placed on the back of seats occupied by season ticket holders. There are numerous boxes of photographs taken from the walls of corridors, executive offices, suites and inside the stadium. The pictures are blown-up images of legendary Mets and the unforgettable moments from the team's 46-year history. In the middle of the warehouse is a nondescript pile of wood found at any demolition site. But, Meisel said, it is a special pile of wood � boards from benches in both the home and visiting team dugouts. The boards were never replaced in the dugouts but have been painted many times, he said. Also in the middle of the warehouse are the 150-foot foul poles that have been broken into 25-foot sections. There are rows of lockers from both the Mets and visitors' locker rooms, as well as cubicles from where players hung their clothes and kept their valuables during games. Throughout the warehouse are piles of outfield wall sections including the retired numbers of players and managers. Flags that flew at the top of the stadium have also found a home in the warehouse. There also are hundreds of signs from throughout the stadium � signs that hung on restroom doors and signs that directed fans to the subway station. A sign of team mascot Mr. Met saying smoking is prohibited in the stadium has already been sold for $100, Meisel said. And there are hundreds of curiosities: an orange water cooler with the Mets logo and a plaque from Seton Hall University honoring Frank Cashen, who was the Mets general manager in the 1980s and considered to be the architect of the team that won the 1986 World Series. There is even a lime marker that came from the Polo Grounds, the original home of the Mets, that was still used by the grounds crew at Shea. Toward the front of the warehouse is a cluster of fan assistance, concession and program booths that Meisel said would look great in any Met fan's backyard. One of the most intriguing items is the concrete marker that was placed in the left field upper deck where centerfielder Tommie Agee hit the longest home run in Shea Stadium's history, on April 10, 1969. Some of the most popular items salvaged from the stadium are not in the warehouse because they've already been sold. All of the stadium's 31 turnstiles have been sold. It was a daunting job, but all of the items were recovered from Shea Stadium after the last game of the season. Swing bidder Many of the items from Shea will be auctioned on the MeiGray's group's Web site. The first auction ended Friday, Oct. 31, but Meisel said there will be future monthly auctions. He estimates it will take a year to sell everything from the stadium. Proceeds from the sale will be divided among New York City, which owns the stadium, and the Mets Foundation, said Jay Horowitz, vice president of media relations for the Mets. The Mets Foundation funds and promotes a variety of charitable causes, including educational, social and athletic programs for young people. What people are willing to pay for some of the items has Meisel scratching his head. For example, the wrought-iron "tree surrounds" with the Mets logo that protected the trees in the parking lot are receiving bids of more than $1,000. Menu board signs from concession stands are fetching bids around $1,000. A section of the outfield wall goes for close to $900. Bids on ketchup and mustard holders with the Mets logo are more than $500. Even a neon Bud Light sign has a bid of $515. As a literal sign of better times, an outfield wall panel with an AIG advertisement had a bid of $1,420. "This (sale) only happens once every 45 years," Meisel said. A Jersey boy Meisel and his partner Bob Gray started the MeiGray Group in the 1990s. After 19 years as a sportswriter for the Daily News covering professional hockey and the New York Giants, Meisel said he became tired of traveling. Meisel's decision to channel his interest in sports into a new career came at an opportune time. With the economy growing steadily, the market for collectible sports memorabilia began to boom in the late 1990s. He developed the idea of selling authenticated jerseys that were worn by professional hockey players. He wrote a business plan and approached one of the teams that he used to cover, the New York Rangers, and in August 1997 signed an exclusive deal to sell the team's previously worn jerseys. The Rangers deal led to agreements with the New Jersey Devils. Next, the MeiGray group inked deals with NBA teams. An NHL or NBA player goes through about six jerseys during a season, three in the home uniform and three in the away uniforms, he said. Last week, as Meisel was sitting in the warehouse, he showed a jersey that had been worn the previous night by Elton Brand, an NBA veteran free agent, who had made his debut as a Philadelphia 76er on the night of Wednesday, Oct. 29. "It smells," Meisel said. "It's sweaty." But it's also valuable to collectors and fans of Brand. That's why representatives, working with the teams' equipment managers, of the MeiGray Group often go into locker rooms immediately after games to get the jerseys. The key to the business, headquartered in Branchburg, is the authentication process that guarantees buyers they are getting genuine items. The jersey comes with a letter of authentication with the team's letterhead, Meisel said. The MeiGray Group has seven full-time employees who are responsible for acquiring the items, cataloging and pricing them, selling them and then shipping them to the buyers. "We have a great staff," Meisel said, adding that he hires collectors to help him put values on the items. The company's growing reputation was one of the reasons why the MeiGray Group got the contract with the Mets to sell the memorabilia from Shea Stadium, which is owned by the City of New York. Meisel is no longer spending hours away from home traveling for his job, but said he works from 60 to 70 hours a week. "I'm happy," he said. "This is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity." John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 03 2008 07:58 AM ="soupcan"]Dunkin' Donuts Down! Finally some destruction I can support. It be cool if we cracked that open and Rachel Ray would come out naked. Edgy DC Nov 03 2008 08:01 AM it would be kind of cool to give the Agee marker to the Agee family. Ditto the Seaver/Stengel/Hodges numbers. Farmer Ted Nov 03 2008 08:42 AM The DD sign was an eyesore. Those stupid police lights and the K sign were bad ideas drawn up by some idiot in a board room. Edgy DC Nov 03 2008 08:47 AM Doesn't this look like they composed a Met jersey and photoshopped it onto a Yankee picture of Wille? metirish Nov 03 2008 08:48 AM ] Finally some destruction I can support. It be cool if we cracked that open and Rachel Ray would come out naked. Saw her recently and couldn't believe how heavy she has gotten. Benjamin Grimm Nov 03 2008 08:55 AM Rachael Ray is an example of how someone can be both cute AND unappealing at the same time. Edgy DC Nov 03 2008 08:58 AM Can we just not talk about happy homemakers from TV ever? Benjamin Grimm Nov 03 2008 09:04 AM metsguyinmichigan Nov 03 2008 09:53 AM ="Benjamin Grimm":2zdqcdh1]Rachael Ray is an example of how someone can be both cute AND unappealing at the same time.[/quote:2zdqcdh1] Well, if you go back to the early shows on Food Network, she was always a little chunky, part of her girl next door appeal. She certainly had a makeover when the show went big, and this year appeared to have some, um, surgical enhancements, in the chest area, unless they did some severe Photoshop work for the magazine covers. My crush on Rachael is well-known, and somewhat tolerated by my wife. Benjamin Grimm Nov 03 2008 11:14 AM It's not her weight that makes her unappealing, it's the noises that come out of her mouth. G-Fafif Nov 03 2008 11:42 AM ="Edgy DC":2j9ucmx8]Doesn't this look like they composed a Met jersey and photoshopped it onto a Yankee picture of Wille? [/quote:2j9ucmx8] This would explain why the Mets in recent years seemed so flat. metsguyinmichigan Nov 03 2008 12:10 PM ="Benjamin Grimm":1wzmvwjl]It's not her weight that makes her unappealing, it's the noises that come out of her mouth.[/quote:1wzmvwjl] She talks? Benjamin Grimm Nov 03 2008 12:17 PM She tries. themetfairy Nov 03 2008 01:02 PM She squawks. seawolf17 Nov 03 2008 02:46 PM ="soupcan":1mxbmvn9]A sign of team mascot Mr. Met saying smoking is prohibited in the stadium has already been sold for $100, Meisel said.[/quote:1mxbmvn9] FUCKIN' HELL. That's all I wanted from the stadium. I just left a message with someone at MeiGray. soupcan Nov 07 2008 07:18 AM Found these at baseball-fever.com First game ever at Shea... Last game ever at Shea... Benjamin Grimm Nov 07 2008 07:37 AM It was prettier when it opened than when it closed. Edgy DC Nov 07 2008 08:39 AM The pitch could have been in better condition. G-Fafif Nov 07 2008 09:00 AM A ballpark that looked better with a parking lot in the background will now itself be a parking lot. The irony is as thick as the outfield grass was thin. Benjamin Grimm Nov 07 2008 09:12 AM Looking at the two photos together really shows how much garishness was added to Shea over the years. I'm sure Citi Field with start out with a lot of that clutter already in place. I can only imagine what it will look like 40 years from now. (And I hope I live to find out! At this point, another 40 years is about as much as I care to get.) John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 07 2008 09:33 AM ="Edgy DC":2749cxyp]The pitch could have been in better condition.[/quote:2749cxyp] Shea was barely complete when it opened. They worked till the very last minute. They said it was very soft and muddy in the outfield. metirish Nov 07 2008 09:40 AM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":1qbr6llo] ="Edgy DC":1qbr6llo]The pitch could have been in better condition.[/quote:1qbr6llo] Shea was barely complete when it opened. They worked till the very last minute. They said it was very soft and muddy in the outfield.[/quote:1qbr6llo] Was there even a fence at the back behind CF separating it form the parking lot , it's hard to tell. soupcan Nov 07 2008 09:43 AM And half of the parking lot isn't even paved yet. Willets Point Nov 07 2008 09:46 AM All the cars are the same size though. soupcan Nov 11 2008 08:03 AM First base Field level is gone, Third base nearly so. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 08:14 AM One advantage to implosions (yes, I realize that wasn't possible in this case) is that they're quick. This is like a band-aid being slowly and painfully peeled off. seawolf17 Nov 11 2008 11:29 AM ="themetfairy":2tehg78d]One advantage to implosions (yes, I realize that wasn't possible in this case) is that they're quick. This is like a band-aid being slowly and painfully peeled off.[/quote:2tehg78d] No kidding. I should stop opening this thread. G-Fafif Nov 11 2008 12:26 PM That sure was some tadium. Zvon Nov 11 2008 12:57 PM ="themetfairy":3vpl9tnq]One advantage to implosions (yes, I realize that wasn't possible in this case) is that they're quick. This is like a band-aid being slowly and painfully peeled off.[/quote:3vpl9tnq] I couldn't have said it better. I have to say I am a bit surprised how the destruction of Shea is effecting me. It has to be this slow torturous way I'm viewing it bit by bit. ="seawolf17":3vpl9tnq]No kidding. I should stop opening this thread.[/quote:3vpl9tnq] I'm with you seawolf17. Edgy DC Nov 11 2008 01:12 PM We let this happen. More than a few advocated it's happening. It's no time to turn away now. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 01:22 PM I'll own up to wanting the new stadium. I'm not denying that. But I've seen this transition done in several other cities during the past few years, and to a team they've all handled it better than the Mets have. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 01:34 PM I'm enjoying the pictures and saving everyone one of them. Keep 'em coming, I stopped licking my wound about ten days ago. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 01:35 PM tmf: they've all handled it better than the Mets have <<< How so? soupcan Nov 11 2008 01:39 PM I'll miss the old girl too but c'mon. Think of what it will be like having wide walkways! Benjamin Grimm Nov 11 2008 01:42 PM Wide walkways and legroom are nothing to sneeze at. I'd feel differently if I still lived in New York. But as rarely as I get to Shea Queens to see the Mets play anymore, I don't think Citi Field will ever feel like home to me. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 01:44 PM I remember the Phillies homage to the Vet in 2003 - a stadium that was younger than Shea and didn't have nearly the history Shea did. IIRC they were the first to take down a number before each game, but they made sure that every number was taken down by someone with a meaningful connection to the team or the stadium (not a Lincoln Mercury dealer in the lot). Their post-game ceremony after their final game was very moving (I'll find the link to it shortly), without the idiotic delay that Mets fans had to endure after Shea's final game. They had books ghost written by the Phillies Phanatic helping prepare younger fans for the move. From top to bottom it just seemed like a much better thought out operation. Edgy DC Nov 11 2008 01:49 PM That has little to do with photos of the de-construction. Is a delay before a ceremony such a big deal? themetfairy Nov 11 2008 01:52 PM The delay before the ceremony was just endemic of the half-assed job the Mets did in properly celebrating Shea's final season. They had an opportunity to do the old girl real justice, and they dropped the ball every chance they could. I couldn't find that footage of the final game ceremony at the Vet on the Phillies' site (and I feel very dirty trolling around there - ick!). But it had much more of a well-planned feel to it. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 01:56 PM How did we get from handling the transition in a day by day demolition thread which you said other teams did better to closing ceremonies and silly number countdowns? themetfairy Nov 11 2008 02:06 PM ="KC"]How did we get from handling the transition in a day by day demolition thread which you said other teams did better to closing ceremonies and silly number countdowns? I mentioned the transition in general. You asked for details. I think that if the Mets did a better job in paying homage to Shea this past season that people wouldn't be as upset about its destruction as they are. Agree or disagree with that premise - it's merely a theory. Edgy DC Nov 11 2008 02:08 PM I wouldn't feel dirty seeking for it if you liked it. If you like it, you like it. It's all MLB's website anyhow. I'm just not ready to kick the Mets because they don't demolish the stadium in a manner comparable to the White Sox or the Rangers. Or such having anything to do with why folks say they won't open this thread. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 02:12 PM You seem to be switching gears, going from "we let this happen/some advocated for it" to "I'm not ready to kick the Mets." You cool with this or not? Kong76 Nov 11 2008 02:15 PM tmf: I mentioned the transition in general. You asked for details <<< How did all the others "to a team" handle the dismantling of their old stadium better than the Mets? Edgy DC Nov 11 2008 02:21 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Nov 11 2008 02:27 PM You're excerpting phrases out of sentences there. It's clear to anybody that I didn't support a new stadium. How it's demolished is a moot point and I don't see how it can be done better, or indeed has been done better by everyone else. Frayed Knot Nov 11 2008 02:25 PM Maybe they can demolish the stadium by bringing each piece out on a velvet pillow laid out on a sled pulled by a puppy dog. I'm sure we'd all feel better then. This wound-licking is getting too much. I want video of the destruction and i hope it's bloody. Benjamin Grimm Nov 11 2008 02:29 PM I don't think the Mets did such a bad job with the last year of Shea. Yeah, there were too many Lincoln-Mercury dealers pulling down the numbers. But I think the closing ceremony was nicely done. Very nicely done. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 02:36 PM The physical demolition of Shea has to be done in this manner because implosion is not possible. My point is that I don't think that people would be reacting to the demolition process as painfully as they are if the Mets had done a better job of honoring Shea properly in its final season. Benjamin Grimm Nov 11 2008 02:38 PM Speaking only for myself, I just find it a little bit sad. No pain though. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 02:39 PM I know people who are in real pain over this. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 02:44 PM There's no way I could cull what fairy's point was from what she typed, I don't read posters minds, we were talking about the demolition pics. Problem with getting too wrapped up in the Mets will never be the same with- out good ol' Shea is before you know it's twenty years from now and you're writing letters to the paper like Bob L about how greener the grass was there and popcorn fresher. The bathroom floors were even drier and less sticky 20 years from now too I bet and those wonderful sight lines ... themetfairy Nov 11 2008 02:50 PM If that's the case, then I weep for the yet-to-be-finished Citi Field. Frayed Knot Nov 11 2008 02:54 PM I think we're starting to sound like the wound-lickers we used to make fun of; - oh no, this stadium is being destroyed worse than any other stadium in the history of destroyed stadiums - only the Mets could paint their foul lines crooked - why did Shea have to die so young? Kong76 Nov 11 2008 02:57 PM tmf: I know people who are in real pain over this <<< Send 'em here! Edgy DC Nov 11 2008 03:00 PM ="Frayed Knot":3qcqh3up]I think we're starting to sound like the wound-lickers we used to make fun of; - oh no, this stadium is being destroyed worse than any other stadium in the history of destroyed stadiums - only the Mets could paint their foul lines crooked - why did Shea have to die so young?[/quote:3qcqh3up] Wait a minute, that second one wuz you. Edgy DC Nov 11 2008 03:00 PM ="KC"]tmf: I know people who are in real pain over this <<< Send 'em here! I think they're minors. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 03:02 PM Actually, Iubital's post yesterday ("it doesn't surprise me") started me on this build up of let's stop the wound licking that was bound to come out. I think. I ain't going back to look. (OE: meaning the foul line not lining up) themetfairy Nov 11 2008 03:18 PM ="Edgy DC"] ="KC"]tmf: I know people who are in real pain over this <<< Send 'em here! I think they're minors. No - the minors I know aren't as connected to Shea as most of the adults I know. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 03:24 PM How do they feel about the demolition? Do the also feel that it's being handled "to a team" much worse by the Mets? Or are they just bitter about the closing ceremonies and number countdown too? Send 'em here. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 03:32 PM Who are you talking about? Kong76 Nov 11 2008 03:39 PM The people who are in real pain over this, McFly. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 03:45 PM I'll leave it to them to specifically reply to you or not. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 03:50 PM If they're here (and I suspected they were) then you should have left them out of your poor defense to begin with and let them speak for themselves. You wiggled off like four hooks in this thread. G-Fafif Nov 11 2008 04:06 PM There is beauty, pain and joy in baseball. When they gut and pry apart where you experienced most of it, a person is likely to reflect on all three and feel, upon viewing the kinds of pictures in question, one of those sensations in particular. The beauty and the joy may have been carried out safely before MeiGray could sell them, but it is not surprising that the pain should linger and overshadow for many if not all across the duration of the demolition. Later? Who knows? We haven't been there yet. I suspect the beauty and the pain and the joy will coalesce into the warmer memories the magic of distance allows. Reality says somebody's doing a job in taking down Shea Stadium. Reality says the plan has been on the table long enough for everybody to adjust to the plan. But baseball and reality were never intended to mesh so easily. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 04:17 PM Eloquent as ever, and on topic. Bravo! themetfairy Nov 11 2008 04:29 PM ="KC":cumx5g68]If they're here (and I suspected they were) then you should have left them out of your poor defense to begin with and let them speak for themselves. You wiggled off like four hooks in this thread.[/quote:cumx5g68] Don't ask direct questions if you're not going to like the answers. What was I supposed to do? Ignore you? G-Fafif Nov 11 2008 04:32 PM ="KC":3vuetxpl]Eloquent as ever, and on topic. Bravo![/quote:3vuetxpl] Thanks much, but just throwing the last pitch of what TMF stated quite reasonably, I think...Benitez to the Fairy's Leiter, as it were. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 04:33 PM Thanks G. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 04:35 PM I disagree, I think she said something and then changed it to something else and then played on then something else. I have to stop, I'm gonna start getting PM's about causing waves in the bath tub. Frayed Knot Nov 11 2008 04:38 PM ="Edgy DC"] ="Frayed Knot"]I think we're starting to sound like the wound-lickers we used to make fun of; - oh no, this stadium is being destroyed worse than any other stadium in the history of destroyed stadiums - only the Mets could paint their foul lines crooked - why did Shea have to die so young? Wait a minute, that second one wuz you. Yes, but I was just noting the fact that they looked off via the angle in that aerial shot. What followed was a reply which stated that only the Mets could do something like that as if the new stadium really will have foul poles 150' from home plate on account of this organization being so incompetant that the thought of seeing where the lines actually lead hasn't yet occured to anyone during this whole multi-million dollar operation. I'd bring up the one post wondering if they really had to ruin the grass with all that machinery during the deconstruction but I don't think that one was totally serious (although I waver at times). G-Fafif Nov 11 2008 04:39 PM I find it way more upsetting that I posted my way up from Richie Hebner only to morph into Jerry DiPoto. Who ranks these things? Oh right. Us. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 04:46 PM ="KC":6z6ktyl3]I disagree, I think she said something and then changed it to something else and then played on then something else. I have to stop, I'm gonna start getting PM's about causing waves in the bath tub.[/quote:6z6ktyl3] I did nothing of the kind. I answered a question that you asked me. You chose not to like the answer. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 05:05 PM I ain't outlining it for you, and don't be so fucking snippy. You're not always right. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 05:07 PM I'm just playing defense here. I'm not the one accusing people of changing things around. Nor have I done or said anything that merits you swearing at me. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 05:16 PM I'm sorry, but you're just freakin' maddening sometimes. Poorly handled transition does not equal demolition. Go wiggle yourself. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 05:24 PM I never said it equaled demolition. I was talking about people's reactions to the demolition. And nothing I said justifies the kind of reaction you're having. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 05:33 PM No, your first response was about the closing ceremonies and the count down .... have you been drinking with cooby? I'm comfortable with my reaction for purposes of this thread and I apologize for cursing and that's all I have to say on the matter. C'mon, "go wiggle yourself" was pretty funny. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 05:43 PM No, I have not been drinking. This is what you consider an apology? I made a comment about the transition being handled poorly. You asked me to extrapolate. I did, and you reacted in a pretty hostile manner. If you don't like my opinion that's your prerogative. But you needn't go off like that just because you disagree with it. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 05:50 PM I apologized for cursing, that's it. Your reading comprehension skills are taking a beating in this thread. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 05:54 PM No. I'm simply taking a beating for not seeing an issue exactly the way that you do. Kong76 Nov 12 2008 04:20 AM A beating? If I was gonna get nasty I'd dig up a picture of you in a Phillies uniform and really stick it to you. I'm ultimately taking the beating when we argue because the bath house mentality of this board will almost always side with you. Mean ol' KC. *sigh* HahnSolo Nov 12 2008 06:42 AM Hi, I'm here for the "intelligent, lively and provocative discussion of the Mets, Ed Kranepool, and on a good day, the Ramones." Am I in the right place? Kong76 Nov 12 2008 06:58 AM seawolf17 Nov 12 2008 07:17 AM ="HahnSolo":3u9spspm]Hi, I'm here for the "intelligent, lively and provocative discussion of the Mets, Ed Kranepool, and on a good day, the Ramones." Am I in the right place?[/quote:3u9spspm] Eff that. I come here for the weekly KC/Scarlet fights. Edgy DC Nov 12 2008 07:35 AM I missed a GREAT NIGHT. Zvon Nov 12 2008 08:48 PM whats all this then....? Pages of posts but nary an image. Addressing the issue of pain... Some of us do feel pain in regard to Shea's demise. It's not even that bad. Its a pang....a feeling of remorse. It hurts on a level that's hard to express, and its a passing phase. Eventually this will be a thing of the past. Not yet though, seeing it being ripped down bit by bit, here and at other places as well. I have been going around and collecting pictures of Shea myself. Anything I come across. Early days,recent times,....even the demolition. So I bop in here and I see there have been additions to the Shea Photo thread, and I'm like, "Oh kool! Maybe its one I haven't seen. Hope its the older Shea...but any nice pic of Shea would be sweet to see..." I hope to see pictures of Shea in way of a recollection, an homage. That's just me though. Maybe there should be a seperate thread for Shea's demolition, ...I dunno. But it's really not a big deal. As you can see I'll still check out this thread, hoping for kool pics of Shea Stadium when it was in use. I've come across some really great Shea photos online recently, especially at Baseball Fever. Like this one. I am 95% positive that thats me running onto the field after game 5 of the '73 NLCS. Edgy DC Nov 12 2008 09:05 PM Classy look. Apparently, nobody was allowed in that day --- by law --- except 21-year-old white males with shoulder-length hair, workshirts, and bellbottoms. Zvon Nov 12 2008 09:15 PM ="Edgy DC":3fjgok91]Classy look. Apparently, nobody was allowed in that day --- by law --- except 21-year-old white males with shoulder-length hair, workshirts, and bellbottoms.[/quote:3fjgok91] Not so. I was 15. Kong76 Nov 13 2008 04:34 AM EDC: Classy look. Apparently, nobody was allowed in that day --- by law --- except 21-year-old white males with shoulder-length hair, workshirts, and bellbottoms ------------- I never noticed, but you're right. It looks like they just opened a gate for field level gen adm for a Deep Purple concert or something and all the guys are scrambling to get a good spot. Cool picture to be in. G-Fafif Nov 13 2008 05:42 AM It's fascinating, from a cultural perspective, to contrast the crowds storming the field images from '69 and '73. The tumult of the '60s may have waned away from the ballpark, but its remnants seem to have become codified in places that were largely shielded from change while change was at its most intense: like the ballpark. (Which is probably what pissed Dick Young off so.) It's often been said there was more of an edge to the '73 rushing of the field than '69's, for what that's worth. I don't remember the Orioles complaining they were frightened for their well-being the way the Reds did. That YouTube clip that MLB pulled earlier this year, the pregame show from Game Four of the '73 World Series, showed (to me anyway) what a different world we were living in versus four years earlier, not just in style but substance. If you recall, Kubek, Seaver and Hunter were all taking Charlie Finley to task for his handling of the Mike Andrews situation. Questioning authority, kind of a radical concept in establishment circles in 1969, was part of the polyester fabric of the game by 1973. Probably not a coincidence this was the same year as the Senate's Watergate hearings nor that within two weeks there would be such a backlash to the Saturday Night Massacre. soupcan Nov 14 2008 09:54 AM Latest shots from wcbs880 chopper... Field level is completely gone now. Here's some interesting stuff that I got from baseball fever. Shea Demolition Plans: Edgy DC Nov 14 2008 09:58 AM What's a "NON-BEARTING STRUCTURE"? Benjamin Grimm Nov 14 2008 10:00 AM Before anyone else beats me to it, let me just get this out of the way: It figures! The stupid Mets can't even get the spelling right! Willets Point Nov 14 2008 10:04 AM Question for Zvon. Is your shirt open showing your Siegfried & Roy hairless chest or were you wearing a fleshtone t-shirt? Zvon Nov 14 2008 01:26 PM ="Willets Point"]Question for Zvon. Is your shirt open showing your Siegfried & Roy hairless chest or were you wearing a fleshtone t-shirt? lol. I never went around displaying my slinky chest so I'm sure that's a T-shirt. Doubt it was fleshtone, probly orange. Thing is I'm not positive that's me. First time I saw the pic I looked right past that guy searching for me. Eventually I got back to him and thought that must be me. I have no recollection of what I wore that day. I do know I was a skinny guy with long hair who always wore white sneaks. If I had on a flannel shirt, which I wore often enough, it be rolled up at the sleeves. And the path I took puts me right about where that guy is. After that I ran to the edge of the home plate grass, stopped... saw that girl on the mound (looks like she's going for the rubber <[joke setup<]).. our eyes met...I ran to her on the mound and we did a Koosman/Grote type jump and hug. Twirled in a circle, split and ran in different directions. I never saw her again but I'll never forget that moment. Benjamin Grimm Nov 14 2008 01:27 PM I had no idea that Marlo Thomas was there that day! metirish Nov 14 2008 01:34 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Nov 14 2008 01:34 PM WOW , what a great picture , guy in the yellow shirt at second stands out and I count three suits that might be security , one to the right of yellow shirt and one to the left of Buddy and one n front of him. Edgy DC Nov 14 2008 01:34 PM That's a great story. How about Barry Gibb chicken dancing to your right? Zvon Nov 14 2008 01:37 PM ="Edgy DC":38ctzctd]That's a great story. How about Barry Gibb chicken dancing to your right?[/quote:38ctzctd] No hug for him. Zvon Nov 14 2008 02:31 PM The thing about storming (and that's a very apt description) of the field in '73, and why it did get out of control, was that every kid wanted to be part of that moment, to be part of the celebration like in '69. And as the game went on we all had the same idea : to get down to field level so it was possible. We did the same thing during game four. I ended up on the 1st base side then. Rose hit that extra inning homer and the celebration was over. I was right on the rail behind the added box on the 3rd base side late in game 5. The Reds families were sitting in them. Eventually the game was stopped and they were led out to the Reds bullpen for their safety. And it's not that we were bothering them personally in any way, shape or form (fans did taunt them when they were being led away though, lol). Its just that there was a sea of people behind them that became like one big giant swaying creature. We could not move independently, could hardly even breath. And you know what I did then? I jumped the rail into the make shift box. Like the Reds families I was a bit concerned for my safety. Unfortunately everyone along the rail ended up jumping into the box like lemmings. Again we became crammed. I saw the fans on the 1st base side did the same thing, but they were so packed in that the little wooden wall that enclosed the section collapsed, and they spilled out onto the field. The game had to be halted again. Tug was on the mound at this point. He was pissed off. I remember him approaching the pile of people waving his arms over and over in an upward motion as if to say EVERYONE! BACK UP AND INTO THE STANDS! It was pretty crazy. I got so sandwiched in the corner of the box that I felt that we were gonna burst out on this side too. I jumped out and went down into the Reds dugout. I was able to hide in plain sight there for quite a few minutes, sitting on a stool in the far corner of the dugout. Eventually a cop came up to me and asked what I was doing there. I told him...I was trying to stay alive, lol. He told me I had to stay alive back up in the stands. This was when I was shown on TV, when the cop was talking to me. (my parents and brothers got to see that from home. My bros thought it was the koolest thing, my folks were like wtf were you doing?). I've told this story before here (I have also mentioned looking for the footage of me on TV and it is nowhere to be found.) but I don't think I ever stressed the point that what happened occurred because too many kids had this dream of being in a '69 like celebration highlight reel. And what actually happened was we so embarrassed the team, the game, the city, that that footage will forever be locked away and forgotten. One of my best Shea memories though. A Boy Named Seo Nov 14 2008 02:40 PM I re-read that part about you being in the Reds dugout a couple times thinking I misread or misunderstood you. That's the craziest thing I've ever heard. Wild story, man. Thanks for sharing. dgwphotography Nov 15 2008 12:28 PM I think I'm one of the one's in real pain over this that TMF is referring to. The thing is not once has the countdown, the ceremonies, or anything that the Mets did or didn't do play a role in it. It is simply the fact that a place that has been a desired destination for me for over 35 years is no longer there. Shea is a place that I dreamed about visiting since my aunt gave me my first yearbook in 1972. It's the knowledge that I will never feel the attachment to the new place that I do to the old place. It's the fact that it was a home away from home of sorts - a place where I knew ever nook and cranny, where I knew where to get the best knishes, or the best dogs. A place that is home to so many memories. Whatever the Mets did or didn't do to mark this occasion plays no role in how I feel about it. Benjamin Grimm Nov 15 2008 01:43 PM I agree with that, except for the part about feeling real pain. I feel a touch of sadness, and a sense of loss, but I wouldn't call it pain. Kong76 Nov 15 2008 04:31 PM I'd like to get a copy of that CAD file with the non bearting typo. Hell, they show part of the guy's name and addy and it was easily discovered who and where he is. Maybe he's got a sense of humor and would leak one to us. Edgy DC Nov 15 2008 07:56 PM Scarsdale. Vic can take a short drive and knock on his door. cooby Nov 16 2008 08:19 PM Zvon, great picture, great stories! cooby Nov 16 2008 08:20 PM And what does "Non Bearting" mean? soupcan Nov 18 2008 11:01 AM All of these from baseball-fever.com Edgy DC Nov 18 2008 11:11 AM What? The auction house couldn't generate any action on the spongetech.com sign? Farmer Ted Nov 18 2008 11:17 AM Soup's top photo shows the location of our old seats. Crushing. Willets Point Nov 18 2008 11:25 AM ="Edgy DC":133d3wiq]What? The auction house couldn't generate any action on the spongetech.com sign?[/quote:133d3wiq] Maybe Bubba Sponge? Farmer Ted Nov 18 2008 11:31 AM Missed the Spongetech sign. Very sponge worthy. soupcan Nov 20 2008 10:01 AM More pictures available at nycsubway.org 9/1963 5/10/1964 8/1/1979 8/1/1979 Tiles removed between 1979 and 1980. 8/16/1980 9/24/2008 holychicken Nov 24 2008 09:01 AM Might be a bit late for this coming in after all of the destruction pics . . . but this is one of my favorite pictures of shea. It is my gf's younger sister. John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 24 2008 09:47 AM ="holychicken"]Might be a bit late for this coming in after all of the destruction pics . . . but this is one of my favorite pictures of shea. It is my gf's younger sister. Is she like, legal? holychicken Nov 24 2008 09:56 AM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":22rs38rb]Is she like, legal?[/quote:22rs38rb] Oh, I see. You see a dark-skinned person and immediately think "illegal immigrant." You should be ashamed! ehehhe SteveJRogers Nov 24 2008 11:37 AM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket"] ="holychicken"]Might be a bit late for this coming in after all of the destruction pics . . . but this is one of my favorite pictures of shea. It is my gf's younger sister. Is she like, legal? Uh, 'Bucket, aren't you very much attached at the moment? Now Chicken, I ask you the same question! Benjamin Grimm Nov 24 2008 11:39 AM I find it a little odd to be lusting after someone when all you know is the shape of her nose. Edgy DC Nov 24 2008 11:44 AM And which pores are and aren't corrupted. holychicken Nov 24 2008 12:06 PM Exactly. I didn't even post a picture of her most desirable body part, her posterior. Dear god, tell me my gf doesn't read this forum or she will surely whup me. seawolf17 Nov 24 2008 12:08 PM ="holychicken":21z05y4i]Exactly. I didn't even post a picture of her most desirable body part, her posterior. Dear god, tell me my gf doesn't read this forum or she will surely whup me.[/quote:21z05y4i] It's okay, you can still post it. We don't mind. Edgy DC Nov 24 2008 12:25 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Nov 24 2008 12:42 PM Butts, schmutz. Steve's a snot man. seawolf17 Nov 24 2008 12:38 PM ="Edgy DC":1hrzmxox]Butts, schmutz. Steve's a snot man.[/quote:1hrzmxox] Must be a Yankee fan thing. SteveJRogers Nov 24 2008 01:14 PM ="holychicken":26x42lii]Exactly. I didn't even post a picture of her most desirable body part, her posterior. Dear god, tell me my gf doesn't read this forum or she will surely whup me.[/quote:26x42lii] Geez, I was just following Bucket's lead. I mean I need some Met Chick love more than he does! soupcan Dec 04 2008 08:12 AM All from baseball-fever John Cougar Lunchbucket Dec 04 2008 08:18 AM Mike Mulligan always said his Steam Shovel could take down one stadium as fast as 100 men could in a day, although he was never quite sure of that. Benjamin Grimm Dec 04 2008 08:26 AM So now they're chewing away at the Loge level? Are they going to get to a point where there's just an unattached Upper Level (or Upper Tank as Keith Hernandez would call it) floating high in the air? soupcan Dec 04 2008 08:28 AM Yeah that's weird isn't it? You'd think they'd go top to bottom rather than the other way around. I'd like to think that they are professional demolishers and know what they are doing rather than they might just be stupid. Edgy DC Dec 04 2008 09:21 AM I don't know. These two guys aren't winning any smart awards with me right now. << dgwphotography Dec 04 2008 10:58 AM ="soupcan"] Zvon - is it me, or does this look tone-mapped? It looks like it has that HDR glow to it... HahnSolo Dec 04 2008 11:21 AM ="Edgy DC":2sv0q5gv] I don't know. These two guys aren't winning any smart awards with me right now. << [/quote:2sv0q5gv] Those two guys are still waiting for their hot pretzel ordered at the last home game. G-Fafif Dec 04 2008 12:30 PM Talk about your stiff Breezes playing havoc with Shea's outfield. Valadius Dec 04 2008 02:00 PM Part of me is rooting to see the picture of them ripping down that Fox News sign. Edgy DC Dec 04 2008 02:14 PM You strike me as somewhat partisan. Am I right? soupcan Dec 04 2008 02:17 PM Who Vlad? Nah - he's as fair and balanced as they come. Kong76 Dec 04 2008 03:45 PM I sent those latest photos to a friend of mine. He wrote back that he thought they were building a new stadium and not just fixing up Shea and slappin' on a new coat of paint like in years gone by. Chucklehead. Zvon Dec 04 2008 04:57 PM ="Iubitul"] ="soupcan"] Zvon - is it me, or does this look tone-mapped? It looks like it has that HDR glow to it... Yes. Especially in comparison with the others. It does bring the shaded areas out. Zvon Dec 04 2008 05:02 PM I wish they would get this over with. How are they gonna take down the highest heights sans demolition? themetfairy Dec 04 2008 05:12 PM It may take a while. I remember Old Comiskey Park was in a state of partial demolition when we visited New Comiskey in August of 1991. Kong76 Dec 04 2008 05:22 PM Z: How are they gonna take down the highest heights sans demolition? <=== Cranes and stuff, and how is what they've been doing not demolition? Kong76 Dec 04 2008 05:52 PM tmf: It may take a while. <=== They don't really have much time if they plan to level the joint and make it a parking lot. My guess is they'll finish well before opening day. I don't want to get into union contracts twice tonight, but they make it worth it to finish on time so there's no lolligaggin' nowadays. Zvon Dec 05 2008 03:10 PM ="KC":21ab889l]Cranes and stuff, and how is what they've been doing not demolition?[/quote:21ab889l] Sorry. I meant the usage of explosive charges. Kong76 Dec 05 2008 03:42 PM I figured, I was just goofin'. soupcan Dec 09 2008 08:13 AM Upper deck wrecking ball. BAM! Benjamin Grimm Dec 09 2008 08:32 AM They should have painted the wrecking ball to look like a baseball. metirish Dec 09 2008 08:33 AM That would have been really taking the piss on those that see that as a sad event. Benjamin Grimm Dec 09 2008 08:37 AM It would be a nod to tradition. It's what they did with the Ebbets Field wrecking ball. The same ball was used a few years later on the Polo Grounds: Benjamin Grimm Dec 09 2008 08:50 AM Cincinnati's Crosley Field too! soupcan Dec 13 2008 02:19 PM Wow - now I'm even starting to have a hard time looking... baseball-fever.com Benjamin Grimm Dec 13 2008 02:36 PM Yikes. Edgy DC Dec 13 2008 02:55 PM GYAH! Kong76 Dec 13 2008 07:10 PM They didn't sell the panels depicting the leap and Seaver's head? Edgy DC Dec 13 2008 07:23 PM It looks like the terrorist hit we were praying wouldn't happen actually did. Kong76 Dec 13 2008 07:44 PM Fuck terrorists, an accidental plane crash on a foggy evening in the wrong flight path was what I thought mighta happened one day. *62 Dec 14 2008 12:56 PM The pictures may be gruesome but the Stadium has overstayed its welcome. I may miss living in Brooklyn desperately, but 3,000 sq. ft. is way better than 920. Edgy DC Dec 14 2008 05:11 PM I don't get the reference. *62 Dec 14 2008 05:39 PM I love Shea for lots of reasons, and will miss it some ..... but it's a dump. Better? Edgy DC Dec 14 2008 05:53 PM I thought those numbers referred to something. Rockin' Doc Dec 14 2008 06:57 PM I think *62 lives in Florida if my memory is correct. He apparently once lived in Brooklyn and apparently hung out at Shea quite a bit in the past. I think he was stating that he missed living in Brooklyn, but preferred the 3000 sq. ft. of living space he can now afford over the 920 sq. ft. of living space he had in Brooklyn. Living in the south and comparing costs for homes with my friends and relatives relatives that live near the city, I understand what he is referring too. Then again, maybe I miss interpreted the meaning of his post. Either way, it's nice to have *62 posting here again. I hope he hangs around. soupcan Dec 16 2008 01:42 PM StadiumPage.com Benjamin Grimm Dec 16 2008 02:04 PM It's amazing that just ten weeks ago it was still full of color and people and noise. soupcan Dec 18 2008 07:45 PM soupcan Dec 29 2008 07:51 AM soupcan Jan 05 2009 12:40 PM G-Fafif Jan 05 2009 12:52 PM Impressive Photoshopping, Soup. Quite interesting to see what Shea Stadium would look like if somebody went mad and started to tear it down. If it wouldn't be too much trouble, please put Shea back together again. Thank you. batmagadanleadoff Jan 05 2009 01:18 PM ="soupcan"]http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q308/soupcan11/shea5-1.jpg That neon batter just reminded me of Gary Carter' follow through, particularly the way Gary would take an inside pitch and line drive one-bounce it to the outfielder for a single. Are there any other Mets that the neon hitter resembles? Edgy DC Jan 05 2009 02:35 PM Looks kind of slender for Carter. It also looks like a guy going to right, while Carter more typically pulled. metirish Jan 13 2009 01:35 PM from 01/10/2009 metsguyinmichigan Jan 13 2009 02:35 PM They're not saving any of the neon players? I know they're huge. but heck, they could slice them up and sell them for $10 a foot to geeks like me! Zvon Jan 13 2009 02:58 PM ="metsguyinmichigan":8phckkps]They're not saving any of the neon players? I know they're huge. but heck, they could slice them up and sell them for $10 a foot to geeks like me![/quote:8phckkps] Why sell just their feet? John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 13 2009 04:19 PM wham G-Fafif Jan 13 2009 04:53 PM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":1virpusd]wham[/quote:1virpusd] "Wake Me Up Before You Go Go" vs. "Baby I'm Your Man" Whoops...wrong thread. metirish Jan 15 2009 08:00 AM Newsday today has a classic Shea pictures collection. Die-hard fans dance in the aisles at 1:50 a.m. during the 21st inning of a 25-inning marathon game between the Mets and the Cardinals at Shea Stadium. (AP Photo / September 12, 1974) A view of Shea Stadium during the national anthem before a New York Mets-Los Angeles Dodgers game in 1973. (AP Photo / June 9, 1973) Fans rush onto the field and players celebrate after the Mets defeated the Baltimore Orioles to win the 1969 World Series. (AP Photo / October 16, 1969 A view of Shea Stadium after after souvenir-hunting fans ripped up the sod following the Mets' victory in the 1969 World Series. (AP Photo / October 16, 1969) Pirates first baseman Willie Stargell waves to the crowd at Shea Stadium during Willie Stargell Night at Shea. The man at left wiping his eye is Nelson Doubleday, Mets chairman of the board. (Newsday / Paul J. Bereswill / September 27, 1982 The new owners of the Mets pose at Shea Stadium. From left: Stephen E. O'Neil, president of City Investing Company; Nelson Doubleday, president of Doubleday Co.; Fred Wilpon, Chairman of the Board of Sterling Equities and John O. Pickett, owner of the NHL New York Islanders, who was instrumental in setting up the sale of the team. Pickett was not listed as an owner of the club. (AP File Photo / January 25, 1980) Car fire involving several cars in the Shea Stadium parking lot during a game in 2002. (AP Photo / April 27, 2002) Workers Angelo DiMaria, left, and Dominico Bannezo clean off old paint and rust as they get Shea Stadium ready for Opening Day in 2001. (Newsdya / J. Conrad Williams Jr / March 28, 2001) > soupcan Jan 15 2009 08:09 AM Amazing how much Jeff looks like his dad used to. Even down to the bad hairdo. ="metirish"] Edgy DC Jan 15 2009 08:10 AM Car Fire Day: Best. Promotion. Ever. HahnSolo Jan 15 2009 08:36 AM I miss crazy old Uncle Nelson. soupcan Jan 15 2009 08:39 AM Pop Quiz - without looking it up, how much did Nelson & Jeff pay for the Mets in 1980. If I remember right, I think it was $20 million. Farmer Ted Jan 15 2009 08:45 AM I only recall $350 million or so to finally kick Doubleday to the curb in '02. Edgy DC Jan 15 2009 09:02 AM Who pitched on Car Fire Day? metirish Jan 15 2009 09:07 AM ="Edgy DC":kdd41i0v]Who pitched on Car Fire Day?[/quote:kdd41i0v] I remember that game , I should say I remember it from watching it on TV and the announcers talking about the fire in the parking lot and showing it. I'll guess that Steve Trachsel pitched . John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 15 2009 09:14 AM ="soupcan":sgwypaic]Pop Quiz - without looking it up, how much did Nelson & Jeff pay for the Mets in 1980. If I remember right, I think it was $20 million.[/quote:sgwypaic] For some reason $21 million is the number I remember but geez. Edgy DC Jan 15 2009 09:14 AM Pedro Pistacio took a no-hiiter into the seventh the day after a crisp one-hitter by Testes. It was game two of a three-game sweep over Milwaukee and, for a minute there, it looked like the 2002 Mets had scrapped together a winning rotation of Leiter-Estes-Astacio-D'Amico-Trachsel. That plan blew up in the parking lot like so many SUVs. Edgy DC Jan 15 2009 09:15 AM Is that logo stitched together? It acually looks like a giant shoulder patch. soupcan Jan 15 2009 09:16 AM D'Amico. I had high hopes for him. soupcan Jan 15 2009 09:17 AM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":esm8z809]For some reason $21 million is the number I remember but geez.[/quote:esm8z809] I think you're right. dgwphotography Jan 15 2009 11:19 AM ="batmagadanleadoff"] ="soupcan"] That neon batter just reminded me of Gary Carter' follow through, particularly the way Gary would take an inside pitch and line drive one-bounce it to the outfielder for a single. Are there any other Mets that the neon hitter resembles? flip it around, and it's Mex. attgig Jan 15 2009 12:16 PM ="metirish"] Fans rush onto the field and players celebrate after the Mets defeated the Baltimore Orioles to win the 1969 World Series. (AP Photo / October 16, 1969 > i wonder if that will ever be allowed in pro sports. when did that stop? it's only on college that you see fans rushing the field. why is that? Edgy DC Jan 15 2009 12:19 PM Because student athletes don't need/demand protection from the masses the way millionnaire atheletes do. Why is the cop screening home plate doing the time warp? metirish Jan 15 2009 12:23 PM How about the guy down the RF line jumping from the stands? Benjamin Grimm Jan 15 2009 12:23 PM I think it stopped in 1986, at least in New York. The fans rushed the field after the division clincher, but the mounted cops prevented it in the World Series. I think, though, that the Phillies had the cops on horseback for the 1980 World Series. John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 17 2009 12:20 PM I went out there this morning, photos on facebook. Here's a vid shot as the 7 train arrives in Willets Pt. metirish Jan 17 2009 01:59 PM Great pictures btw. soupcan Jan 18 2009 01:53 PM These are from baseballfever... Kong76 Jan 18 2009 02:08 PM Even dollar cost averaging down to ~ 7 1/2, that sums up my Citigroup stock feelings. I've been somewhat unaffected by most of the images, but this one is particularly eerie to me: Kong76 Jan 18 2009 02:10 PM I know the home opener is late this year, but are they really gonna have the ol' girl completely gone by then and a parking lot installed? I thought they'd be more far along. Benjamin Grimm Jan 18 2009 03:30 PM I'm not sure they have to. The existing parking lot served Shea for the last few years, and Shea held more fans than Citi will. Kong76 Jan 18 2009 03:37 PM I don't mean they have to, I just thought that was the plan. Since groundbreaking, parking there has been a pain in the neck and I took the train mostly to games. I like to tailgate, plan on doing it a lot this year, and it's easier to do with a car. John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 18 2009 04:26 PM ="Kong76":3gm6qt5k]I know the home opener is late this year, but are they really gonna have the ol' girl completely gone by then and a parking lot installed? I thought they'd be more far along.[/quote:3gm6qt5k] Official plan is the last bits of Shea are to be disappeared by June 30. Those photos put mine to shame! metirish Jan 23 2009 02:23 PM Vince Coleman Firecracker Jan 23 2009 02:43 PM An auto body shop in a Quonset hut. Fantastic. Willets Point Jan 23 2009 02:44 PM I've got dibs on "City * Field * Collision" as my band's name. Frayed Knot Jan 24 2009 11:28 AM The ends of the horseshoe are starting to disappear http://www.wfan.com/pages/3706726.php?imageGalleryXRefId=907755#imgXR http://www.wfan.com/pages/3706726.php?imageGalleryXRefId=907756#imgXR G-Fafif Jan 24 2009 11:53 AM It's a stump, but it's our stump. dgwphotography Jan 24 2009 01:07 PM soupcan Jan 26 2009 12:33 PM More at stadiumpage.com Frayed Knot Jan 26 2009 12:56 PM btw, Harvey Araton tees off the Yanx in a piece in Sunday's NYTimes. Specifically it's the sweet time they're taking in getting rid of the old park even though the new one is nearly finished and that the whole deal was based on trading stadium space for park land, park land that now seems destined for 2011 at the earliest. Their answer as to when they'll get around to even starting deconstruction is essentially "when we fuckin' get around to it - now go away and stop bothering us", even as they had no problem making a public spectacle about marching their offices across to the new digs the street last week. "Mayor Bloomberg, tear down this stadium" metirish Jan 26 2009 01:16 PM The arrogance of all involved is sickening , how I despise all things Yankees. SteveJRogers Jan 26 2009 02:14 PM Supposedly they are going to use YSII for a movie production, plus the plan was that either the Mets or Yankees would use YSII to play games if either Citi Field or YSIII weren't ready come April. So despite the arrogance, there really are valid reasons why it is still up. Frayed Knot Jan 26 2009 02:36 PM Even if using YSII was the on-paper 'just-in-case' backup plan in the event that some wild mishap went on with the construction of either of the new stadiums the virtually ZERO chance such a plan would ever be put into place has now shrunk to roughly that of the Lions being put into next week's Super Bowl were a case of bubonic plague to sweep through either the Steeler or Cardinal camp. And, as the article mentions, they've yet to even select a company that would do the deconstruction or set a date as to when it might start. So the reason it's not only still up but will be so for at least another year has everything to do with the fact that they haven't finished milking the old girl for every cent she's worth and if that means that the city that just re-re-issued more tax-free bonds as the price climbed over a billion dollars and the local kids in the neighborhood they claim to care so much for (whenever they weren't threatening to leave that is) go without a public park for the next few years well then that's none of their damn business. metirish Jan 28 2009 08:10 PM New York Times ] In Dead of Winter, Shea Stadium Is Melting Away By KEN BELSON Published: January 28, 2009 With each passing day, Shea Stadium, the home of the Mets since 1964, fades further from Citi Field, the team�s new home. In the last few weeks, demolition crews have been ripping down entire sections of Shea from both ends of the outfield decks toward its middle. What was once a semi-enclosed bowl with 57,000 seats is now a skeleton of a grandstand. In the first weeks after the Mets finished their final season at Shea (with another desultory loss that knocked them out of playoff contention), crews removed the seats, signs and anything else that could be sold to collectors or reused in city parks. Then demolition crews started knocking out the field level and the concrete decks that made up the loge and the mezzanine. But the structure of the stadium, built for nearly $30 million, was largely intact. Not so anymore. Since the beginning of the year, crews have clawed away at Shea�s walls and beams, exposing escalators, elevator banks and air ducts. The stands above Gates A and E have vanished and parts of the neon players that adorned the outside of the stadium are gone, too. Twelve sections of the upper deck still have their concrete floors, but the other sections that remain are outlined only by their steel beams. Unlike stadiums in other cities that have been imploded, Shea had to be taken down piece by piece because of building codes. The rat-a-tat-tat of the construction machinery drowned out the noise of the jets taking off from LaGuardia Airport. Tarps on chain link fences say �Almost Home,� a reference to the soon-to-be-opened Citi Field, but also the six-month process of erasing Shea. In all, nearly 10,000 tons of steel and another 2,500 tons of concrete will be pulled out of Shea. Some of the concrete will be ground up and reused as the base material for the parking lot that will be installed in its place. The lot will include space for 2,000 cars and signs marking where home plate and the pitcher�s mound once were. Team representatives said that the demolition will be completed some time in the coming weeks, which is not hard to imagine. On Wednesday, lines of dump trucks made their way onto what was once the outfield, weaving around piles of crumpled metal and concrete covered in snow. Several Web sites have sprung up that have chronicled the destruction of the place where Seaver once threw, Piazza once squatted and the Stork, George Theodore, once roamed. In a way, the sites are a testament to the morbid curiosity of Mets fans, who have endured many morbid Mets teams. �It�s interesting how they are doing it piece by piece,� said Eric Okurowski, a 31-year master�s candidate and a life-long Met fan from Babylon, N.Y., who runs stadiumpage.com. �Most old stadia are blown up and it takes just a few seconds. It�s pretty interesting seeing it come apart in pieces over the course of four months.� Okurowski and several other die-hard fans are organizing a final farewell at Shea at noon Saturday to share stories and take photographs of what is left of the ballpark. As Shea diminishes, Citi Field emerges. While less imposing than Shea, the new stadium, at least from the outside, has an elegance that Shea lacked. Instead of the lattice of concrete ramps that constituted Shea�s exterior, Citi Field is covered in brick and punctuated with arches and an entrance rotunda. Flood lights highlight the outside while klieg lights illuminate what is left of Shea. More Articles in Sports �A version of this article appeared in print on January 29, 2009, on page B18 of the New York edition. apmorris Jan 29 2009 04:58 PM ="metirish"]New York Times ] Okurowski and several other die-hard fans are organizing a final farewell at Shea at noon Saturday to share stories and take photographs of what is left of the ballpark. Anyone going? (bring a camera) metirish Jan 29 2009 05:28 PM People are going http://www.faithandfearinflushing.com/ G-Fafif Jan 30 2009 03:38 PM Damn, dirty apes... apmorris Jan 30 2009 04:43 PM ="G-Fafif"]Damn, dirty apes... Awesomenessness Kong76 Jan 30 2009 07:24 PM Classic pic. dgwphotography Jan 31 2009 05:41 AM that's just brilliant. Benjamin Grimm Jan 31 2009 05:44 AM That really is brilliant. metirish Jan 31 2009 05:47 AM Yeah it's very clever. themetfairy Jan 31 2009 06:19 AM It's just a model.... batmagadanleadoff Jan 31 2009 04:06 PM I'm guessing that the picture has something to do with the Statue Liberty finale in Planet of.... But that picture never came up on my browser. Not today. Not yesterday. Benjamin Grimm Jan 31 2009 04:14 PM Me neither. I had to right click, select "Copy Location" and paste the following in my browser: http://faithandfear.blogharbor.com/_photos/heston.jpg Edgy DC Feb 02 2009 07:05 AM You MANIACS! soupcan Feb 05 2009 07:11 AM From stadiumpage.com Just a matter of time now.... Benjamin Grimm Feb 05 2009 08:06 AM It's starting to look more like the grandstand you'd see at a race track. Frayed Knot Feb 05 2009 08:11 AM Never can say goodbye No no no no, I Never can say goodbye Even though the pain and heartache Seems to follow me wherever I go Though I try and try to hide my feelings They always seem to show Then you try to say you're leaving me And I always have to say no... Tell me why Is it so That I ... Never can say goodbye No no no no, I Never can say goodbye Evertime I think I had enough I start heading for the door There's a very strange vibration That pierces me right to the core It says turn around you fool You know you love her more and more Tell me why Is it so Don't wanna let yo go I never can say goodbye soupcan Feb 06 2009 10:55 AM These are from wcbs880.com. And there are a few more there as well. G-Fafif Feb 08 2009 03:10 PM Shea among the ruins... Kong76 Feb 08 2009 03:47 PM I called KB over and asked if she wanted to see an eerie picture on my laptop and she saw this and started bawling. "That's all that's left? When was that picture taken?" "Uh, I guess last time it snowed." ... (I'm obnoxious in real life too) and I told her this is like a 25 page thread of the destruction of Shea and we started talking about our Moms and games and tailgates and she got me all throaty too and crying and screw you all but ok I admit that it's hard to see the old thing disappear and I've been suppressing the sadness. There, I said it. dgwphotography Feb 09 2009 07:41 AM the first time we go there this year will be a shock. Edgy DC Feb 09 2009 07:50 AM We should go and have a tribute concert in the parking lot. G-Fafif Feb 09 2009 10:37 AM ="Kong76":1akaid2f]I called KB over and asked if she wanted to see an eerie picture on my laptop and she saw this and started bawling.[/quote:1akaid2f] My wife, who worked downtown throughout the fall of 2001, invoked Ground Zero in terms of what it reminded her of looking at. soupcan Feb 13 2009 10:09 AM Another from baseballfever.com metirish Feb 13 2009 10:27 AM Great pictures over there...taken this morning from the #7 train Benjamin Grimm Feb 13 2009 10:48 AM They should leave that last chunk in place. smg58 Feb 13 2009 12:34 PM I drove past it the other day. It's really sad to see it. soupcan Feb 14 2009 07:21 AM I'm at LaGuardia waiting for a flight. Drove past Citi and Shea. Shea looks so sad and insignificant. I'm excited and wistful at the same time. cooby Feb 14 2009 08:22 AM Please, check for ice and geese. Not joking. soupcan Feb 14 2009 08:38 AM We're flying Continental - what could go wrong? dgwphotography Feb 14 2009 09:44 AM ="metirish"] It's fitting that that's the last piece left... Frayed Knot Feb 14 2009 09:49 AM Think of it as an image of Koosman throwing the final pitch of the '69 WS. It could be Orosco/'86 too but it looks more like Koosman. dgwphotography Feb 14 2009 09:51 AM hmmmm.... I always saw Matlack in that image... dgwphotography Feb 14 2009 09:57 AM ="Iubitul"]hmmmm.... I always saw Matlack in that image... Actually, no. Bob Ojeda. SteveJRogers Feb 14 2009 11:49 AM ="Iubitul"] ="Iubitul"]hmmmm.... I always saw Matlack in that image... Actually, no. Bob Ojeda. What is that watermark on the other side of the card top? A Boy Named Seo Feb 14 2009 11:58 AM ="metirish"]Great pictures over there...taken this morning from the #7 train Nice pic, Irish. Poor, little Shea getting swallowed up by Citi on both sides. Kong76 Feb 15 2009 01:46 PM We took a ride out there today. We packed up a camera, a couple of Heineken keg cans (KB drove) and set out. I was kind of emotional getting ready but by the time we were in the car and on our way I was kinda excited. There were a bunch of people milling about doing the same thing we were and while I didn't talk to anyone we all smiled and nodded to each other like we got it. What we really should have done was cooked a few hot dogs one more time but the beer was enough I guess to count as a tailgate of sorts. The pictures posted all over the internet get redundant after awhile I suppose, but I got a few unique images. metirish Feb 15 2009 02:20 PM Great pictures , thanks. themetfairy Feb 15 2009 03:08 PM Nice shots Kase! LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Feb 15 2009 05:20 PM Thanks, sir. Beautiful and gut-wrenching. (All in all, this offseason's been like a months-long wake... except one where the guests take parts of the deceased with them as souvenirs.) A Boy Named Seo Feb 15 2009 05:30 PM Great shots, man. Love the one of you raising your can of Heiny in salutation. holychicken Feb 15 2009 05:49 PM Whoa, crazy, KC. I was there today too and took some very similar pictures. I was the jackass with my little brown dog off the leash. He was very happy to be out running about like that. Edgy DC Feb 15 2009 06:01 PM Should have a concert out there. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Feb 15 2009 06:05 PM Or an Irish wake? -Loading up on Jameson fifths/Cueing up "Body of an American" on the iPods. Kong76 Feb 15 2009 06:13 PM holyc: I was the jackass with my little brown dog off the leash <<< I didn't see any little brown pups running about. It's funny, but I really thought I'd run into at least one Mets' fan I knew out there. Running into you woulda been cool and we coulda done a Heiny. holychicken Feb 15 2009 07:42 PM Yeah, I figured there would be no one there but the when I saw the number of people there I figured I would see someone I knew. I checked everyone saw there, but didn't recognize anyone as well. I figured my dog would have stuck out tho more than me DocTee Feb 15 2009 08:27 PM Cool pics, thanks for sharing them. Did you pour some of that Heiny on the ground, ghetto style, to remember Shea, your fallen friend? Kong76 Feb 16 2009 01:11 PM Tee: Did you pour some of that Heiny on the ground <<< I have to confess that I did deposit some used Heiny behind some construction materials. Edgy DC Feb 16 2009 01:13 PM I'm going to guess you haven't puked at Shea since October 12, 1982. Kong76 Feb 16 2009 06:24 PM I had to google the date but I didn't yak that night. John Cougar Lunchbucket Feb 17 2009 09:25 AM Nice shotz guys. ah, screw it. Zvon Feb 17 2009 12:28 PM ="SteveJRogers"] ="Iubitul"] ="Iubitul"]hmmmm.... I always saw Matlack in that image... Actually, no. Bob Ojeda. What is that watermark on the other side of the card top? That's the Desert Storm logo/thing they added to sets of cards for the troops overseas back in the day. themetfairy Feb 17 2009 02:00 PM Zvon! How have you been? attgig Feb 17 2009 03:53 PM http://twitpic.com/photos/bluenautica one last piece remaining. Frayed Knot Feb 18 2009 11:14 AM Last piece down (video available via Newsday's main sports page) It's all over but the sweeping. soupcan Feb 24 2009 08:02 AM These I guess are almost a week old. From http://www.stadiumpage.com Edgy DC Feb 24 2009 08:14 AM To heck with your copyright, Gary. soupcan Feb 24 2009 08:32 AM 'Zactly. Zvon Feb 24 2009 02:38 PM ="Edgy DC":33njl1ow]To heck with your copyright, Gary.[/quote:33njl1ow] I'll photoshop that out. Shhhh. holychicken Feb 24 2009 03:59 PM ="Zvon":13ygrx4a] ="Edgy DC":13ygrx4a]To heck with your copyright, Gary.[/quote:13ygrx4a] I'll photoshop that out. Shhhh.[/quote:13ygrx4a] Simple crop job ought to do. Edgy DC Mar 16 2009 02:56 PM Mini-Shea ripped up from the ground. http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/03/16/you-too-can-own-a-piece-of-the-mini-city/ Farmer Ted Mar 16 2009 03:14 PM They couldn't save those two satellite dishes? Coulda saved me a few bucks with DirecTV.

[stevejrogers]

I thought they should have had Franco represent that entire bridge between the 86ers and the Piazza era by wearing the 1986 style jersey and his old 31. For one as bml said, there was no onelse representing that era, and it really was Franco's peak as a Met closer. Hell, he had lost his closing job by the time 1999 rolled around.

Thought it was slightly strange to see Foster in the 1982 style as that was the only year he wore them as a Met.

Though it probably doesn't fit him anymore, it was nice to see Ed Kranepool don a jersey other than the last one he ever wore as a Met. I mean he was still wearing that yellowed 1979 home jersey during the 1994 1969 tribute!

Speaking of 1969. Next year, 40th Anniversary, boy it will be weird seeing them celebrate it when the place where so many of those great moments will be a parking lot.

FWIW since 1988 was never recognized, despite 1973 being honored at all the big milestone years, I guess the 99-00 squad will get a nice big combo bash (I hope anyway, it'd be the only way John Olerud returns) in 2010 for their ten year anniversary of the NL Champs.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Franco debuted as a Met in 1990. Why would he wear an '86 jersey? Do you think that the actual '86 Mets would want this? This makes no sense.

[seawolf17]

What "pure 90s" Mets would you have wanted there? Bonilla? Jeff Kent? Vince Coleman? Those teams kinda sucked. Maybe Bernard Gilkey or Charlie O would have been cool.

I'd vote for Pete Harnisch, but that's just my personal bias.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

I always thought Butch Huskey was kinda Metly and 90sish.

[batmagadanleadoff]

I'm not hung up at all on the idea that pure '90's Mets needed to be invited. I was only noticing though. But since you asked, Olerud for sure. I already mentioned Anthony Young. Todd Hundley. (Was there an issue with Hundley? Maybe he was invited but couldn't attend. I can't remember.) I liked Saberhagen a lot even though he was a bit of an asshole.

You can't hold it against any Mets that their teams sucked. Otherwise, most of the invitees would've had to have been uninvited.

[stevejrogers]

="batmagadanleadoff":1rti000y]Franco debuted as a Met in 1990. Why would he wear an '86 jersey? Do you think that the actual '86 Mets would want this? This makes no sense.[/quote:1rti000y] 1986 style, eh save for the change in pullover to button down and stitched on lettering instead of a nameplate for the NOB remained through 1992. While I agree that the style that came after the tail and before the black shadow and the snow white tops was a great style, Franco really wasn't Franco during those years.

batmagadanleadoff Sep 30 2008 08:43 PM

="SteveJRogers":2b4tvqa5] ="batmagadanleadoff":2b4tvqa5]Franco debuted as a Met in 1990. Why would he wear an '86 jersey? Do you think that the actual '86 Mets would want this? This makes no sense.[/quote:2b4tvqa5] 1986 style, eh save for the change in pullover to button down and stitched on lettering instead of a nameplate for the NOB [/quote:2b4tvqa5] You forgot the anniversary patch the 86 Mets wore. That's what mainly distinguished the 86 uni from the 90 uni. You're right about the stitched on lettering, though. If you wanna get hyper technical, the 1990 unis had the Rawlings logo on the right sleeve. The 86 unis had no Mfr. logo on the sleeves. Frayed Knot Sep 30 2008 08:43 PM The more I read this board the more I realize that virtually everyone knows and cares about uniforms A LOT more than I do. SteveJRogers Sep 30 2008 08:48 PM ="seawolf17":19bd7ajf]What "pure 90s" Mets would you have wanted there? Bonilla? Jeff Kent? Vince Coleman? Those teams kinda sucked. Maybe Bernard Gilkey or Charlie O would have been cool. I'd vote for Pete Harnisch, but that's just my personal bias.[/quote:19bd7ajf] Hmmm, not saying I'd want them there, just saying it is odd to see Franco as a representative of the 1998-2001 Mets with Piazza, Zeile, Leiter, Ventura and Alfonzo. Granted he was there, and was the "captain" but I prefer remembering Franco with his # 31 jersey during the "Worst Team Money Can Buy" era. Put it this way, it would be exactly like seeing Kranepool in a replica of his 1979 home jersey out there. Just doesn't seem right even though he was there. SteveJRogers Sep 30 2008 08:52 PM ="batmagadanleadoff":3fgsp7nc] ="SteveJRogers":3fgsp7nc] ="batmagadanleadoff":3fgsp7nc]Franco debuted as a Met in 1990. Why would he wear an '86 jersey? Do you think that the actual '86 Mets would want this? This makes no sense.[/quote:3fgsp7nc] 1986 style, eh save for the change in pullover to button down and stitched on lettering instead of a nameplate for the NOB [/quote:3fgsp7nc] You forgot the anniversary patch the 86 Mets wore. That's what mainly distinguished the 86 uni from the 90 uni. You're right about the stitched on lettering, though. If you wanna get hyper technical, the 1990 unis had the Rawlings logo on the right sleeve. The 86 unis had no Mfr. logo on the sleeves.[/quote:3fgsp7nc] I didn't notice that the versions of the unis the 86ers were wearing out there had the actual 1986 jersey patch. Course they could have been wearing what they got (except for Doc of course) back in 2006, but the point was more the same style THAT the 1986ers were wearing at the ceremony. Not an actual 1986 Franco # 31 jersey that obviously only would be a Cincy Red jersey! batmagadanleadoff Sep 30 2008 08:57 PM The 86 Mets had the anniversary patch, and what appears to be a Majestic Mfr. Logo. The real 86 unis were manufactured by Rawlings; the sleeves were logoless. Mitchell & Ness made the flannelly '60's unis for Shea Goodbye. Apparently, more than one mfr. was involved in producing the various retro jerseys. AG/DC Sep 30 2008 09:21 PM Pure 90s Mets I salute: Rico Brogna Eddie Murray Todd Hundley, I guess Jose Vizcaino Jeff Kent Mlicki Manzanillo Yoshii While I'm in Japan, I salute Takashi Kashiwada, the man who opened Asia to the Mets. Know who'd be a cool invite (and maybe the Countdown Like It Oughta Be thought of this)? Steve Chilcott. themetfairy Oct 01 2008 02:24 AM Here are some pictures from Ralph Kiner Night (July 14, 2007). The view of Citi Field from the Shea tunnel near Gate E - Fans arriving from the subway - Citi Field rising behind Shea - themetfairy Oct 01 2008 02:27 AM Between the old and the new, before the September 14, 2008 Mr. Met Dash - themetfairy Oct 01 2008 06:07 AM This is an old photo. How old? Pre-MiniKnight old - the kid in the backpack is his older brother, who is now significantly taller than I am, and the little girl is now off to college. Oh, and that's me in the middle. In 1994 the Mets entered into a deal that included the installation of Nickelodeon's Extreme Baseball at Shea mini theme park just beyond right field. Living in the City with a 4-year-old and a toddler, ya gotta believe we made a lot of trips to that park. We were there for its opening, due to D-Dad's business connections, playing in the theme park along with some of the Mets who checked it out before that night's game (the only mar in that incredibly fun evening was the news that Dwight Gooden had entered rehab for the second time). When our planned baseball birthday party for our daughter at Shea (yes - there was a time in her life when she was actually into that kind of thing and didn't wince at the thought of baseball) was unworkable due to the strike, we amended the plan and had her party at the Nickelodeon park (for those of you who remember what Nickelodeon was into back then, you'll be amused to know that I was slimed. Slime is kind of like green vanilla pudding with an odd consistency...). This picture, though, was taken at a more routine time. We were at the park one afternoon (possibly 4th of July) and took a tour of Shea that included the clubhouse and the field. The kids and I sat in the Mets dugout while D-Dad took this picture. I generally hate having my picture taken, but this was an occasion that was worthy of an exception - themetfairy Oct 01 2008 06:12 AM This is a picture that iubitul took. D-Dad, a couple of friends and I had just completed the Run to Home Plate. We're in the Shea outfield, and the picture was taken above from the Picnic Area - (Psst - iubitul - did you ever scan the other photos from that day? There are a couple that would be fun to post if you did). G-Fafif Oct 01 2008 06:19 AM Not a photo-related comment but regarding invitees, Todd Hundley did receive a shoutout from Howie Rose when he ran down the list of those who couldn't be with us today. I was struck that the mostly dismal 1991-1996 Mets were represented by John Franco and nobody else, essentially. HoJo, Sid and Doc played on those teams, but aren't associated with them. Fonzie came up in '95, but he is a part of the postseason teams that came later in the mind's eye. So is Franco, I guess. Only because they went to the trouble of tracking down Doug Flynn, Craig Swan and John Stearns (and Mazzilli, I suppose, though he has '86 bona fides), did I get a little hung up on there not being a Rico Brogna (good fit, I hear), a Lance Johnson, or, as suggested, the Anthony Young. themetfairy Oct 01 2008 06:19 AM MK hanging out with some friends during a Mets Fan Club for Kids clinic. I think this was in 2005 - themetfairy Oct 01 2008 06:39 AM On the day I bought my good camera, I took this shot of David Wright connecting for a homer - Time will tell whether this was beginner's luck, but I'm happy with the shot. Benjamin Grimm Oct 01 2008 07:19 AM ="G-Fafif":2bw2zl3t]Not a photo-related comment but regarding invitees, Todd Hundley did receive a shoutout from Howie Rose when he ran down the list of those who couldn't be with us today. I was struck that the mostly dismal 1991-1996 Mets were represented by John Franco and nobody else, essentially. HoJo, Sid and Doc played on those teams, but aren't associated with them. Fonzie came up in '95, but he is a part of the postseason teams that came later in the mind's eye. So is Franco, I guess. Only because they went to the trouble of tracking down Doug Flynn, Craig Swan and John Stearns (and Mazzilli, I suppose, though he has '86 bona fides), did I get a little hung up on there not being a Rico Brogna (good fit, I hear), a Lance Johnson, or, as suggested, the Anthony Young.[/quote:2bw2zl3t] I was thinking along similar lines this morning in the car. There weren't many players present whose careers were strictly in the lean years and the in-between years. There were a few guys from the 1960's, like Frank Thomas, and 70's guys like Flynn, Swan, Stearns, and Kingman, but overall, very few of the returnees were guys who didn't appear in a World Series for the Mets. batmagadanleadoff Oct 01 2008 09:50 AM ="G-Fafif":1bl0kw4g]Only because they went to the trouble of tracking down Doug Flynn, Craig Swan and John Stearns (and Mazzilli, I suppose, though he has '86 bona fides), did I get a little hung up on there not being a Rico Brogna (good fit, I hear), a Lance Johnson, or, as suggested, the Anthony Young.[/quote:1bl0kw4g] Though I would've liked to see Anthony Young walk onto the Shea field last Sunday, as I already mentioned, I did not reasonably expect to see him. Until George Theodore was announced. Once The Stork was delivered, I thought that anything was possible and that everyone was in play. But not Bobby Bonilla. G-Fafif Oct 01 2008 10:05 AM ="batmagadanleadoff":36rnfjz9] ="G-Fafif":36rnfjz9]Only because they went to the trouble of tracking down Doug Flynn, Craig Swan and John Stearns (and Mazzilli, I suppose, though he has '86 bona fides), did I get a little hung up on there not being a Rico Brogna (good fit, I hear), a Lance Johnson, or, as suggested, the Anthony Young.[/quote:36rnfjz9] Though I would've liked to see Anthony Young walk onto the Shea field last Sunday, as I already mentioned, I did not reasonably expect to see him. Until George Theodore was announced. Once The Stork was delivered, I thought that anything was possible and that everyone was in play. But not Bobby Bonilla.[/quote:36rnfjz9] Shea Amnesty could have been the theme and everybody but Vince Coleman could have been welcomed and absolved. I could have applauded Bonilla. I could have applauded Alomar. I could have applauded Hebner just for old times' sake. I think, if sufficiently intoxicated, I could have applauded Glavine. But not Vince Coleman. A.Y., however, needed no amnesty. He was always treated well amid the disaster that went down around him. It would have been a classy Storklike move. themetfairy Oct 01 2008 02:26 PM MiniKnight's first game at Shea - I love how D-Dad caught Mr. Met's pixelated image smiling and waving on the scoreboard in the background. metsguyinmichigan Oct 01 2008 08:40 PM That's Mr. Met bestowing his blessing! Awesome shot! themetfairy Oct 01 2008 09:01 PM D-Dad says thanks soupcan Oct 02 2008 08:58 AM Not a Shea photo per se but still... I was looking through a box of crap in my attic and came across a Mets scorecard from 1985. I thought 'how cool would it be if this was from opening day and I actually scored it?'. I opened it up and guess what - it was and I did. Surprising to me because that opener I drove down from Syracuse with about 6-7 fraternity brothers and sat in the bitter cold of the upper deck. I'm sure I was drunk and my hands were frozen. In those days though I did score pretty much every game I went to. I checked UMDB against my log and I didn't do a half-bad job... Heep appears in the boxscore but not on my card, until you look closer - In the 7th it appears Heep was announced but I suppose Whitey replaced Campbell with Hassler for the lefty/righty thing so John Christensen took the AB. You can see that I wrote Heep's name but then crossed it out. Why was Davey PH-ing Heep for Straw though? Game was tied 5-5 men on first and second 2 out. What am I not seeing or remembering? Also - Note that Staub pinch-hit in the 9th and Darling ran for him. John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 02 2008 09:10 AM Holy shit, nice handwriting. Are you an architect? soupcan Oct 02 2008 09:11 AM Oh gosh really? Thanks. Its usually much neater, I was kind of embarassed to post it because I thought it was pretty sloppy. Not an architect but an illustrator in a previous life. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 09:13 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 02 2008 09:15 AM Strawberry opened the 1985 season hurt. His opening day start was in question and he did not play at all in the Mets next game. He missed a significant amount of playing time in 1985 to injuries. May I ask what frat you belonged to? Centerfield Oct 02 2008 09:13 AM ="themetfairy"]MiniKnight's first game at Shea - I love how D-Dad caught Mr. Met's pixelated image smiling and waving on the scoreboard in the background. That's amazing. MK already looks like himself. Not sure if that made any sense. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 09:17 AM How come my post above displays a "last edited" note even though this is the very next post? soupcan Oct 02 2008 09:19 AM ="batmagadanleadoff"]May I ask what frat you belonged to? Thanks for the Strawberry answer. HahnSolo Oct 02 2008 09:21 AM ="soupcan":3uc7yjo2] In those days though I did score pretty much every game I went to.[/quote:3uc7yjo2] You scored in the Shea upper deck? I should hang out at more games with you. metirish Oct 02 2008 09:24 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 02 2008 09:25 AM Brilliant posts from metfairy and soup...MF , the Mets cap looks over sized....what happened? Great score card soup , I scored my first game ever this season, in the second to last row up top behind home plate. It didn't look anything like yours though... soupcan Oct 02 2008 09:24 AM ="HahnSolo":2y3lkhxq]You scored in the Shea upper deck? I should hang out at more games with you.[/quote:2y3lkhxq] It was a looooong time ago. Its in me but its been hibernating for a while. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 09:29 AM ="soupcan":3jnfvsp6]Thanks for the Strawberry answer.[/quote:3jnfvsp6] That's on Comstock, with a lot of other frat houses, right? Did you see my Sherman Douglas post[/url:3jnfvsp6] from a few days ago? soupcan Oct 02 2008 09:32 AM Yup. 721 Comstock to be exact. I did see the Douglas post, you were right. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 09:33 AM Back on topic. Frayed Knot Oct 02 2008 09:34 AM ="batmagadanleadoff"]Strawberry opened the 1985 season hurt. His opening day start was in question and he did not play at all in the Mets next game. He missed a significant amount of playing time in 1985 to injuries. Most of his missed time was on account of when he rolled over on his thumb making a catch in a game I was at - in mid-May I think it was. ]How come my post above displays a "last edited" note even though this is the very next post? All that means is that you edited something in that post after the thread was active again. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 09:39 AM ="Frayed Knot":nd2dud0e] ="batmagadanleadoff":nd2dud0e]Strawberry opened the 1985 season hurt. His opening day start was in question and he did not play at all in the Mets next game. He missed a significant amount of playing time in 1985 to injuries.[/quote:nd2dud0e] Most of his missed time was on account of when he rolled over on his thumb making a catch in a game I was at - in mid-May I think it was. [/quote:nd2dud0e] You're right. But he opened the season with a nagging injury as well. I have the video of that complete game. I'll try and find it but it may take me a while, because I haven't converted that tape to disc. My old VHS's are a disorganized mess. dgwphotography Oct 02 2008 09:43 AM Soup - that's great stuff. I was sitting down underneath in the loge that day. Freaking Hernandez - strikes out in a big spot leading off the top of the 10th. So unclutch. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 09:49 AM ="Frayed Knot":itaev3d1]All that means is that you edited something in that post after the thread was active again.[/quote:itaev3d1] What do you mean by "thread was active again"? Based on experience, I thought that the "last edited" notation was activated only if the post was edited after someone else posted a subsequent message. soupcan Oct 02 2008 09:55 AM ="batmagadanleadoff":2of6od08]What do you mean by "thread was active again"? Based on experience, I thought that the "last edited" notation was activated only if the post was edited after someone else posted a subsequent message.[/quote:2of6od08] You edited at 11:15. CF posted at 11:13. OE: No, I'm wrong. That's weird. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 10:01 AM ="soupcan":3pdd5j9f] ="batmagadanleadoff":3pdd5j9f]What do you mean by "thread was active again"? Based on experience, I thought that the "last edited" notation was activated only if the post was edited after someone else posted a subsequent message.[/quote:3pdd5j9f] You edited at 11:15. CF posted at 11:13[/quote:3pdd5j9f] I dunno about that. When I originally posted that message, it appeared after CF's post. Why would my subsequent minute later edit appear based on an unedited post showing prior to my post, and thus, prior to my edit? batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 10:02 AM ="soupcan":2yeh8i49]OE: No, I'm wrong. That's weird.[/quote:2yeh8i49] Now you get it. themetfairy Oct 02 2008 10:38 AM ="Centerfield"] ="themetfairy"]MiniKnight's first game at Shea - I love how D-Dad caught Mr. Met's pixelated image smiling and waving on the scoreboard in the background. That's amazing. MK already looks like himself. Not sure if that made any sense. It makes sense. He's recognizable, even at three weeks old. Irish - I'm not sure what was up with the hat. That soon after a C-section I thought I was doing well getting dressed at all seawolf17 Oct 02 2008 12:03 PM Actually, as long as the message has been read at least once, then it gets the "edited" tag. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 02:26 PM ="seawolf17":neearbs2]Actually, as long as the message has been read at least once, then it gets the "edited" tag.[/quote:neearbs2] I'm not convinced because I know for sure that on occasion, I have edited some of my messages as much as a day after posting them. So long as my message in question was always the last one in the thread, the "last edited" note was never triggered. I know that others read the post after it was posted but prior to my edit based on the page view count. So based on my personal use, merely reading a post wouldn't be enough to trigger the edited notation if that post was ever to be edited. AG/DC Oct 02 2008 02:31 PM How about if somebody else had already hit the response button, even if they hadn't submitted? Frayed Knot Oct 02 2008 02:34 PM I think the mods should just confess that they're monitoring all of BatMags movements and activities. Nothing personal mind you, just be careful what you say in the bathroom. You never know who's listening. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 02:47 PM ="Frayed Knot":1klmkujp]I think the mods should just confess that they're monitoring all of BatMags movements and activities. Nothing personal mind you, just be careful what you say in the bathroom. You never know who's listening.[/quote:1klmkujp] That's what I always thought. Do you know that my avatar disappeared mysteriously? And that the feature that would allow me to simply submit another avatar is missing from my control panel or whatever it's called? What do you make of that, huh? dgwphotography Oct 02 2008 02:55 PM I don't remember if I've posted this one before: Fireworks Night, July 3, 2006: soupcan Oct 02 2008 03:02 PM Wow. cooby Oct 02 2008 03:37 PM ="soupcan":1twkt7gk] In those days though I did score pretty much every game I went to.[/quote:1twkt7gk] HAHAHAH, I am sure though that by now somebody else has already beaten me to this line, I'll go back and look cooby Oct 02 2008 03:40 PM Yep! themetfairy Oct 02 2008 03:50 PM ="Iubitul":2bej8qlv]I don't remember if I've posted this one before: Fireworks Night, July 3, 2006: [/quote:2bej8qlv] Whether it's a rerun or not, it's gorgeous. soupcan Oct 02 2008 04:48 PM ="cooby":1hpi6tfp] ="soupcan":1hpi6tfp] In those days though I did score pretty much every game I went to.[/quote:1hpi6tfp] HAHAHAH, I am sure though that by now somebody else has already beaten me to this line, I'll go back and look[/quote:1hpi6tfp] DOH! I didn't realize HahnSolo was taking the piss! I'm a moron. metsguyinmichigan Oct 02 2008 07:27 PM ="themetfairy":2i6sr6pi] ="Iubitul":2i6sr6pi]I don't remember if I've posted this one before: Fireworks Night, July 3, 2006: [/quote:2i6sr6pi] Whether it's a rerun or not, it's gorgeous.[/quote:2i6sr6pi] Clearly you're too good at this for it to just be a hobby. Are you a professional? I'm just in awe. I snapped shots of some of the same small details that you did -- like the little NYs in the grates around the trees -- yet you picked a really cool, unconventional angle to shoot it. Beautiful and creative. dgwphotography Oct 03 2008 12:32 AM ="metsguyinmichigan"] Clearly you're too good at this for it to just be a hobby. Are you a professional? I'm just in awe. I snapped shots of some of the same small details that you did -- like the little NYs in the grates around the trees -- yet you picked a really cool, unconventional angle to shoot it. Beautiful and creative. Thanks metsguy. I'm not a professional, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night... Seriously, it's a hobby - I'm a web developer by trade. But, it's also a passion that centers me. I can have a completely lousy day at work, but if I get to spend 15 productive minutes behind my camera, I'm completely relaxed and centered... Here's a couple of oldies. Please ignore the quality - my film scanner isn't working, so I had to scan the prints on a flatbed... July 4, 1986 - Nolan Ryan pitching to Gary Carter: September 18, 1986 - The best part of this pic is Backman's expression. Hungover much? John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 03 2008 05:46 AM Just look how much better those old shots look without Keyspan signs, giant dunkin donuts cups, too-dark blue paint, etc etc. This thread is going to make me dig out what I can find, but I'll start with this classikc: batmagadanleadoff Oct 03 2008 08:24 AM ="Iubitul":1jek1hyd]I don't remember if I've posted this one before: Fireworks Night, July 3, 2006: [/quote:1jek1hyd] I was surprised to read that you're not a pro. Professional is the first word that came to my mind when I saw this beautiful picture of Shea with the fireworks. Where were you sitting (or standing) when you took the picture of Carter batting against Ryan? AG/DC Oct 03 2008 08:33 AM If I remember him describing that photo last year, he put his camera down, satisfied he got the shot he wanted, and noticed the Mets team photographer right next to him going for the same shot. seawolf17 Oct 03 2008 08:34 AM Lost in that shot is the kid in the Wright shirt, bottom right corner, watching the fireworks. A nice touch. dgwphotography Oct 03 2008 11:56 AM ="batmagadanleadoff":2duv67l2]Where were you sitting (or standing) when you took the picture of Carter batting against Ryan?[/quote:2duv67l2] Thanks :-) I was able to sneak down to the first row behind home plate - got a lot of good shots that were on KC's site. dgwphotography Oct 03 2008 12:04 PM ="AG/DC":1gfkczpr]If I remember him describing that photo last year, he put his camera down, satisfied he got the shot he wanted, and noticed the Mets team photographer right next to him going for the same shot.[/quote:1gfkczpr] That was the first time I shot the fireworks, back in 1990. They had a photo contest sponsored by Kodak every year - I had won in the memorabilia category in 1989, and had my picture in the 1990 yearbook. So, I had the idea to try and shoot the fireworks that July - that's when I ran into Marc Lavine. When the 1991 yearbook came, and I saw his fireworks shot on the cover, I knew there was no way that mine made it into the yearbook. There's a post script to that story: I ran into Marc again in 2006. I snuck around to behind home plate in loge to take pictures of Mike Pelfrey in his ML debut. Marc was standing in the walkway right next to me. A security guard came over and started giving Marc a hard time about standing there. I leaned over the railing and asked him, "What, doesn't he recognize you?" Gotta love the security at Shea. Kong76 Oct 03 2008 05:44 PM The old school stuff is still there if anyone wants to re-explore .... http://www.kcmets.com/DGWPhotography/photonew1.htm metsguyinmichigan Oct 03 2008 05:48 PM I love the wallpaper shot of Reyes as a B-Met! SteveJRogers Oct 03 2008 06:25 PM ="Iubitul":2lf7a8xg] They had a photo contest sponsored by Kodak every year - I had won in the memorabilia category in 1989, and had my picture in the 1990 yearbook.[/quote:2lf7a8xg] I'm shocked that a Nikonian like you would stoop so low as to enter a contest run by Kodak! = dgwphotography Oct 03 2008 06:43 PM ="SteveJRogers":38evkptp] ="Iubitul":38evkptp] They had a photo contest sponsored by Kodak every year - I had won in the memorabilia category in 1989, and had my picture in the 1990 yearbook.[/quote:38evkptp] I'm shocked that a Nikonian like you would stoop so low as to enter a contest run by Kodak! =[/quote:38evkptp] Film, Steve. Film. I loved Kodak 64 slide film. Actually, starting in 1995, Kodak offered the DCS460[/url:38evkptp]. It was a 6mp digital camera which used a Nikon N90s SLR for the body. soupcan Oct 03 2008 09:07 PM ="Iubitul":2hzt6uz2]That was the first time I shot the fireworks, back in 1990. They had a photo contest sponsored by Kodak every year - I had won in the memorabilia category in 1989, and had my picture in the 1990 yearbook. [/quote:2hzt6uz2] So I read this and flipped through my '90 yearbook - holy cow - is (was) all that stuff in the picture yours? G-Fafif Oct 04 2008 04:04 AM I ran back to the '90 yearbook as well and was quite impressed with the collection as well as the photograph. A copy of "Nails" even! I'll bet Lenny Dykstra never read it. dgwphotography Oct 04 2008 05:28 AM Thanks guys. Yes, all that stuff in the picture is mine, and that collection has only grown... Of course I have a copy of Nails, my wife was such a big Dykstra fan, she even, gulp, rooted for the Phillies for a while when he got traded... soupcan Oct 06 2008 07:57 AM Taken on Opening Day 1987... Notice that there are no neon players on Shea yet. Sorry about the quality - haven't figured out the best settings for photos on the scanner yet. metirish Oct 06 2008 08:06 AM Those are great pictures soup , maybe it's the contrast but it looks cold and bleak that day.Is that guy wearing a batting helmet? DocTee Oct 06 2008 08:07 AM If you hadn't told me those were from 1987, I'd ve guessed they were from a decade earlier (based on the vehicles in the parking lot). AG/DC Oct 06 2008 08:08 AM Old school. That's how Met fans roll. soupcan Oct 06 2008 08:15 AM ="metirish":1lvfa5e8]Those are great pictures soup , maybe it's the contrast but it looks cold and bleak that day.Is that guy wearing a batting helmet?[/quote:1lvfa5e8] Cold and bleak - yes. Batting helmet - yes. ="DocTee":1lvfa5e8]If you hadn't told me those were from 1987, I'd ve guessed they were from a decade earlier (based on the vehicles in the parking lot).[/quote:1lvfa5e8] I agree - isn't it funny how its always the cars in photos that give a person a sense of the age of the picture? ="AG/DC":1lvfa5e8]Old school. That's how Met fans roll.[/quote:1lvfa5e8] Damn skippy. soupcan Oct 06 2008 08:31 AM Notice no skyline on the scoreboard. Round cut-outs in foul territory on either side of the plate. Never knew what those were for until I watched a DVD of game 4 of the '69 Series. During player intros before the game, Cuellar was warming up in it, tossing from there. Can you see straw-hat, hand-rolling lady in the front row behind homeplate? That's before they added the additional VIP seats and effectively put her 10 or so rows back. What the heck's going on at second base? AG/DC Oct 06 2008 08:37 AM I like the life-size bendable plastic Keith Hernandez figure out there. Nothing says "dreary opening day" like Ralph Kiner walking alone through the shade in his raincoat. soupcan Oct 06 2008 09:06 AM You think that's Ralph? I was going to guess Cashen. metirish Oct 06 2008 09:07 AM I was thinking M. Donald Grant . soupcan Oct 06 2008 09:08 AM He was long gone by then. metirish Oct 06 2008 09:08 AM Of course he wasn't even with the mets then...never mind me. Actually I meant Nelson Doubleday but I'm still probably wrong. soupcan Oct 06 2008 09:23 AM That could be Nelson. I don't think his hair was completely white yet in '87. batmagadanleadoff Oct 06 2008 09:24 AM I think it's Cashen, though it's hard to tell. I don't think it's Kiner; that's not Ralph's way of walking. AG/DC Oct 06 2008 09:26 AM Funny, I think that's exactly what makes him look Kineriffic. Funnier still is that I doubt either of us has seen Kiner walk more than a handful of times, but we both have a distinctive impression. Among other reasons, I think it's Ralph because he appears to be coming from a press scrum. batmagadanleadoff Oct 06 2008 09:31 AM ="soupcan"]That could be Nelson. I don't think his hair was completely white yet in '87. Maybe not, but it was surely on its way. That was the first game back since Wilpon wrested away Nelson's controlling interest in the club. Straw and Keith went at each other that Spring. Doc was in Smithers and at age 22, would never be consistently great again. Backman's "forty fuckin' car crashes" was already proving prophetic figuratively, if not literally. John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 06 2008 09:41 AM I would guess Doubleday. themetfairy Oct 06 2008 09:50 AM A couple of pictures from the 1987 opener - Opening ceremonies - First Pitch - John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 06 2008 09:57 AM Check out skinny Barry soupcan Oct 06 2008 10:00 AM Nice ones Fairy. Apparently you had much better seats than me... AG/DC Oct 06 2008 10:00 AM I like the area around the apple hat, strewn with empty crates and lurking hoods. metirish Oct 06 2008 10:03 AM I like how metfairy's picture helps answer who the people out in center field are in the picture soup posted, kind of cool that two members can post similar pictures for the same opening day in 1987. Farmer Ted Oct 06 2008 10:09 AM Any photos of Banner Day in the archives? Those would a nice treat. themetfairy Oct 06 2008 10:11 AM ="soupcan":19xbemwi]Nice ones Fairy. Apparently you had much better seats than me...[/quote:19xbemwi] Thanks soup. I worked for a law firm in 1987. There were only two good things about the job. One was my office (Empire State Building, 49th Floor, southern view) and the other was that the firm had season tickets and one of the partners would occasionally offer two of the seats to D-Dad and me. themetfairy Oct 06 2008 11:23 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 06 2008 11:45 AM I went into the old photo albums to scan some pictures from 1994's Nickelodeon's Extreme Baseball at Shea experiment. These are from the VIP Opening Party on June 28, 1994. I have pictures of each of my kids at about age 2 with John Franco. This is the one with my older son - We wouldn't have wanted to try to wipe the smile off of Bobby Bo's face - Back in 1994, we had no reason to dislike Jose Vizcaino - themetfairy Oct 06 2008 11:25 AM July 4, 1994. I previously posted the picture of myself with the kids in the dugout. Here are some other photos from that day. From the stadium tour that we took that day - themetfairy Oct 06 2008 11:30 AM Those of you who know my daughter now will be shocked to hear that there was a time she actually rooted for the Mets. We planned to have her 5th birthday at a game at Shea, but the plans were changed on account of strike. We had the birthday at the Nickelodeon park instead. The birthday girl - Cute cake - If you remember Nickelodeon at the time, slime was a big thing. The birthday girl didn't want to be slimed herself, but wanted to slime her mom instead. Let it not be said that I've never done anything for that girl - metirish Oct 06 2008 11:41 AM Absolutely classic , the clothes the uniforms , the sunglasses , everything. We need a thread for classic Mets and Shea pictures like these. Benjamin Grimm Oct 06 2008 12:02 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 06 2008 12:04 PM .. Benjamin Grimm Oct 06 2008 12:03 PM I've been thinking of putting a Shea slideshow on the UMDB. I have a few pictures of my own of the "Shea experience" that I've taken over the last couple of years. Some with architectural details, some of fans crowding through the gates, etc. I've been meaning to ask for submissions of similar photos, and I guess this is as good a time and place as any to start. I'm more interested in "neutral" photos rather than those that feature smiling friends or family members. Some of the photos posted in this thread would be great for that. If anyone who's posted any photos objects to the pictures being used in this manner, please let me know. (I intend to specifically ask permission to use any of these before I actually do so.) A couple of weeks ago I created a prototype slide show. Take a peek if you like: http://www.leaptoad.com/mets/slidetest.php Some day there will be similar slideshows available to all visitors, and they'll have individual themes. Right now I'm slowly putting together one that will capture the events surrounding the final day at Shea Stadium. themetfairy Oct 06 2008 12:32 PM Nice slideshow BG. And I have no objection if you'd like to use any photo that I've posted on the UMDB metirish Oct 06 2008 12:34 PM I like the prototype, nice work. themetfairy Oct 06 2008 06:07 PM May 30, 1999 was a Beanie Babies giveaway day at Shea. I was writing for Mary Beth's Bean Bag World Magazine at the time, and i was able to get press credentials for the game. I was constantly expecting security to tap me on the shoulder and tell me that I didn't belong on the field, but they didn't. Here's my press pass - Diamond Vision - D-Dad took this shot of me from the Field Level - Olerud and the Shea Scoreboard - The Diamond Vision later, from the Upper Deck - Pictures of players to follow.... themetfairy Oct 06 2008 06:12 PM Most of the players were incredibly good sports about having their picture taken with the Beanie Baby du Jour. My big regret was not asking Bobby Valentine for a picture, A) because he would have; and it was a Valentina Beanie Baby. The only one who turned me down was Todd Pratt, but since he was signing autographs at the time I'll give him a pass on that. Rey Ordonez - Roger Cedeno (whose solo homer provided the Mets with their only run as they lost that day) - Edgardo Alfonzo - Mike Piazza (who not only posed for this picture, but graciously gave me a little blather quote for my article) - Benny Agbayani - Fman99 Oct 06 2008 08:08 PM Great pictures MetFairy. How awesome to see those guys being good sports. Man I loved that '99 squad. themetfairy Oct 06 2008 08:23 PM They were a great bunch, for sure. cooby Oct 06 2008 09:16 PM NICE seawolf17 Oct 07 2008 12:57 PM Funny photos. What a neat experience. themetfairy Oct 07 2008 01:41 PM Thanks. It was surreal, and very cool soupcan Oct 13 2008 07:27 AM No seats! AG/DC Oct 13 2008 07:44 AM Well, that one guy has a seat. I think we can take him. metsguyinmichigan Oct 13 2008 09:51 AM He's guarding the stop sign before the people from MeiGray come to pick it up for the auction. soupcan Oct 15 2008 08:46 PM Found these pictures in a thread at baseball fever... AG/DC Oct 15 2008 09:44 PM Agh. themetfairy Oct 16 2008 04:42 AM That one gave me a bad dream last night Benjamin Grimm Oct 16 2008 08:13 AM I found this one the most painful: metirish Oct 16 2008 08:14 AM Great pictures , thanks soup. AG/DC Oct 16 2008 08:24 AM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ut1H4o_ie8c metirish Oct 16 2008 08:50 AM Great song edgy , a blast form the past. dgwphotography Oct 16 2008 09:01 AM I think I'm going through the anger phase of mourning. I'm sure I'll come around, but right now, I just so angry over everything regarding the dismantling of Shea, and the move to his corporate playground. Through it all, I keep getting the feeling that Shea was ours, and CitiField belongs to him. Bastard. AG/DC Oct 16 2008 09:19 AM I don'think it's us against him when the vast majority of the fans and media supported the move. If so, it's a slender us. Farmer Ted Oct 16 2008 10:52 AM Painful. But ther new place will be a treat. themetfairy Oct 16 2008 11:06 AM The new place will be ours. We'll make it ours, dammit! G-Fafif Oct 16 2008 03:51 PM Tour[/url:24y3xk17] of Citi Field parking lot... metirish Oct 16 2008 06:05 PM Whats with the actual hole in the pitchers mound? Benjamin Grimm Oct 16 2008 06:53 PM I'm guessing there was something buried under the mound that they wanted to retrieve. I don't have a great guess as to what it was. My best guess is some kind of camera, but I don't recall seeing any mounds-eye views on any telecasts. soupcan Oct 16 2008 07:06 PM ="metirish":35vh26wx]Whats with the actual hole in the pitchers mound?[/quote:35vh26wx] I'm guessing that they dug up the pitching rubber - to sell it of course - and that hole is a result. dgwphotography Oct 16 2008 07:18 PM no - I think that was where the plumbing was for the hose they used to water down the infield.... soupcan Oct 17 2008 07:31 AM ="Iubitul"]no - I think that was where the plumbing was for the hose they used to water down the infield.... Makes more sense. Wonder how much they're selling that for Zvon Oct 19 2008 06:48 PM I didn't realize this til recently. I thought I was bummed at seasons end because the team failed to get to the post season. But being a Met fan for 40 years, this is really something I'm used to. For the team, there was/is always next year. But this was it for Shea.... This is what really bummed me out. That they couldn't get Shea to the post season one more time. That would have been the way send her off. Great pictures here posted by all, and really fun to view. Iubitul, your pictures of Shea are breathtaking. Absolutely breathtaking and beautiful. Everybody, thanks for sharing them. themetfairy Oct 19 2008 06:51 PM Warewolf! Good to see you, man. Don't be a stranger! metirish Oct 20 2008 12:29 PM Found this persons work over at Faith & Fear( looks like a few have been posted here already) , very extensive collection of great pictures. What does picture #40 show? picnic area? http://sports.webshots.com/album/568107635SUQZeD Read this from Jason over at Faith and Fear. http://www.faithandfearinflushing.com/ Farmer Ted Oct 20 2008 07:37 PM Where the heck are they storing 55,000 seats? metsguyinmichigan Oct 21 2008 08:21 AM Uniwatch reports that the Agee marker appears to have been saved! Willets Point Oct 21 2008 08:25 AM ="Farmer Ted"]Where the heck are they storing 55,000 seats? dgwphotography Oct 22 2008 04:55 AM ="metsguyinmichigan"] Uniwatch reports that the Agee marker appears to have been saved! Yeah - probably to be sold... soupcan Oct 22 2008 07:40 AM Farmer Ted Oct 22 2008 02:52 PM I share Belushi's reaction. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gI3nb9x5VhY Zvon Oct 22 2008 06:11 PM ="soupcan"] Oh my.... This is difficult to witness. PiggiesTomatoes Oct 24 2008 08:29 PM A couple of shots from my only game this season -- at least it was a win. The only win against the pitiful Mariners this season. Down in Tampa now and don't get back to NY all that often for games. > My basehit at Shea. Fantasy Camp reunion in 2006... The place may have been a bit of a dump but it was our dump. Rockin' Doc Oct 25 2008 05:37 AM Nice pictures. Welcome to the pool. Nice handle, I hope you stick around. metirish Oct 25 2008 05:46 AM ="PiggiesTomatoes":2399a9u7] The place may have been a bit of a dump but it was our dump.[/quote:2399a9u7] Thank you and welcome. metsguyinmichigan Oct 25 2008 01:01 PM Great photos! I can't imagine how glorious it was to get that hit. Welcome aBordick! themetfairy Oct 25 2008 01:43 PM This little piggy is a welcome addition to the Pool - Welcome Zvon Oct 25 2008 07:00 PM Excellent pics Piggie! Actually batting at Shea must have been an incredible experience. Is that a female catcher? PiggiesTomatoes Oct 25 2008 07:59 PM Thanks, everyone, for the kind words. I'd joined some time ago but didn't visit for a while, then got locked out and getting back in was a bitch! Riffraff filter must work. Getting to play on the field was a thrill and yes, it was a female catcher. She was the only female in camp and was a trooper. Regards, JF Kong76 Oct 26 2008 05:03 PM PT: joined some time ago but didn't visit for a while, then got locked out and getting back in was a bitch! Riffraff filter must work <<< Read your email around 9 AM on Fri and answered, and had you set up before 6 PM that same day. No one was locked out and getting back was as easy as sending an email. PiggiesTomatoes Oct 26 2008 07:33 PM I wasn't being critical...thought that use of the term riffraff filter would have communicated sarcasm. That said, I'd attempted logging in unsuccessfully with my original password without luck and when I tried to use the forgot password link, I repeatedly received a message that my name and email address did not match. Then, I was unable to find an email address on the forum to contact, ultimately "googling" to find the admin addy. It wasn't easy...but I do appreciate the prompt reply once I emailed the correct address. JF G-Fafif Oct 26 2008 07:38 PM PT, Great pictures. At first glance I wondered how the Mariners game was suddenly being played in daylight. Per your sobriquet, let us know who will be ready first: Hausman or Kobel. Kong76 Oct 27 2008 05:41 AM Maybe it's me and I'm just being cranky and defensive but the email address is right up top: Everybody in the pool! Joining us for off-season hot stove discussion is easy. Shoot us an email [click here] Glad you re-found us. Willets Point Oct 27 2008 01:12 PM Welcome Piggie! You can hold the conch while you're here. soupcan Oct 28 2008 10:54 AM will the Dunkin' Dounts cup be the last man standing? metirish Oct 28 2008 10:57 AM Helps keep the workers running. Gwreck Oct 28 2008 11:46 AM It's somewhat refreshing that nobody was dumb enough to shell out the ~$5000 the greedy MeiGray group was asking for it. AG/DC Oct 28 2008 11:47 AM Or they're moving it to the new digs. seawolf17 Oct 28 2008 01:12 PM It'd be funny if they just left it in the parking lot. Benjamin Grimm Oct 28 2008 01:22 PM They do seem to have demolished around it. Maybe it will be moved to Citi Field. I imagine the new place will have some advertising, no? SteveJRogers Oct 28 2008 01:23 PM ="Gwreck":1zlwh6r8]It's somewhat refreshing that nobody was dumb enough to shell out the ~$5000 the greedy MeiGray group was asking for it.[/quote:1zlwh6r8] Say what you will about memorabilia sellers like MeiGray and Steiner, that probably really is the going rate for that kind of unique advertising as memorabilia. Honestly, there probably is a market for stuff like that; McDonald arches, Big Boys Big Boy, etc. Just no one that got involved in the Shea Memorabilia auctions was into it. metirish Oct 28 2008 01:28 PM ="SteveJRogers":1991yy98] Say what you will about memorabilia sellers like MeiGray and Steiner,[/quote:1991yy98] Thank you , I will. Fucking scum they are. Benjamin Grimm Oct 28 2008 01:33 PM I'm not sure I understand the animosity. metirish Oct 28 2008 01:39 PM Well he said say what you want so I did.... soupcan Oct 28 2008 02:15 PM I guess as long as there are people out there who are willing to pay those ridiculous prices then I don't have an issue with someone charging it. Capitalism and all that. I am upset at the kind of money they are asking for stuff though. I intended to get a pair of seats but $869.00? Really? For what will amount to a novelty in my yard? Then I looked around the website and I thought that this: ...would be cool. But those are up over $1,200.00. They so take advantage of our own feelings towards the team - hundreds of dollars for bricks, almost a grand for seats. Its just a little disappointing is all. soupcan Nov 01 2008 11:01 AM Say goodbye to the shrimpeaters! Field level frst base side is the first to go. Valadius Nov 01 2008 11:21 AM Do they HAVE to have debris strewn around that wonderful field? Kong76 Nov 01 2008 11:26 AM SJR: Say what you will about memorabilia sellers like MeiGray <<< Irish: Thank you , I will. Fucking scum they are <<< I know the guy who was the first premier club guy in line and I didn't get the impression that the guys willing to spend the cash thought MeiGray was hus- tling anyone ... they're brokers. He advertised the event to everyone on his memorabilia buying list and I assume he did so to generate interest among those who were obviously interested. I hope he got a kick back, it's the American way! I wrote back that they're gonna cause a few divorces to which he quipped, "never tell your wife what you're really spending on Mets' stuff!" soupcan Nov 01 2008 11:49 AM ="Valadius":3pluypt1]Do they HAVE to have debris strewn around that wonderful field?[/quote:3pluypt1] I think that's kinda unavoidable when you're tearing a structure down. What are they supposed to do - follow the bulldozers around with a broom and dustpan? metsmarathon Nov 01 2008 02:40 PM that's just silly. what they should do is gingerly remove each and every peice the way it was originally put in, and delicately hand carry it out of the stadium grounds, stepping only on the red carpet laid across the field, and place each dutifully salvaged quantum of the stadium into its own velvet lined receptacle wherein it will remain interred through the end of time. soupcan Nov 03 2008 07:55 AM Dunkin' Donuts Down! Benjamin Grimm Nov 03 2008 07:57 AM I expected it would be surrounded by a large puddle of spilled coffee. soupcan Nov 03 2008 07:57 AM Link There are more pictures on the site. ] November 1, 2008 Bulk of Shea Stadium awaits sale in Bridgewater company's warehouse By MICHAEL DEAK Staff Writer From the outside it looks like an unremarkable warehouse, not like the pyramids in Egypt that were built as mausoleums for the pharaohs. But inside that squat warehouse are treasures that, for New York Mets fans, are as valuable as anything that has ever been found inside the pyramids. It is the Bridgewater warehouse of the MeiGray Group, which has the task of selling all the contents of Shea Stadium, except for the seats. Warren resident Barry Meisel, a former sportswriter for the New York Daily News who is the president and chief operating officer of the MeiGray Group, doesn't want the exact location of the warehouse disclosed for security reasons because it houses thousands of items saved from Shea Stadium before the stadium's slow demolition started earlier this month. Everything is for sale, except for two items that Meisel bought for himself � a picture of the celebration after the Mets clinched the World Series in 1969, and the portion of the center field wall that bears the 410-foot marker. "I always wanted that," he said. Memorabilia Meisel estimated that the warehouse contains from 5,000 to 7,000 items from Shea Stadium. Some of the items are relatively minor, such as the hundreds of nameplates that were placed on the back of seats occupied by season ticket holders. There are numerous boxes of photographs taken from the walls of corridors, executive offices, suites and inside the stadium. The pictures are blown-up images of legendary Mets and the unforgettable moments from the team's 46-year history. In the middle of the warehouse is a nondescript pile of wood found at any demolition site. But, Meisel said, it is a special pile of wood � boards from benches in both the home and visiting team dugouts. The boards were never replaced in the dugouts but have been painted many times, he said. Also in the middle of the warehouse are the 150-foot foul poles that have been broken into 25-foot sections. There are rows of lockers from both the Mets and visitors' locker rooms, as well as cubicles from where players hung their clothes and kept their valuables during games. Throughout the warehouse are piles of outfield wall sections including the retired numbers of players and managers. Flags that flew at the top of the stadium have also found a home in the warehouse. There also are hundreds of signs from throughout the stadium � signs that hung on restroom doors and signs that directed fans to the subway station. A sign of team mascot Mr. Met saying smoking is prohibited in the stadium has already been sold for $100, Meisel said. And there are hundreds of curiosities: an orange water cooler with the Mets logo and a plaque from Seton Hall University honoring Frank Cashen, who was the Mets general manager in the 1980s and considered to be the architect of the team that won the 1986 World Series. There is even a lime marker that came from the Polo Grounds, the original home of the Mets, that was still used by the grounds crew at Shea. Toward the front of the warehouse is a cluster of fan assistance, concession and program booths that Meisel said would look great in any Met fan's backyard. One of the most intriguing items is the concrete marker that was placed in the left field upper deck where centerfielder Tommie Agee hit the longest home run in Shea Stadium's history, on April 10, 1969. Some of the most popular items salvaged from the stadium are not in the warehouse because they've already been sold. All of the stadium's 31 turnstiles have been sold. It was a daunting job, but all of the items were recovered from Shea Stadium after the last game of the season. Swing bidder Many of the items from Shea will be auctioned on the MeiGray's group's Web site. The first auction ended Friday, Oct. 31, but Meisel said there will be future monthly auctions. He estimates it will take a year to sell everything from the stadium. Proceeds from the sale will be divided among New York City, which owns the stadium, and the Mets Foundation, said Jay Horowitz, vice president of media relations for the Mets. The Mets Foundation funds and promotes a variety of charitable causes, including educational, social and athletic programs for young people. What people are willing to pay for some of the items has Meisel scratching his head. For example, the wrought-iron "tree surrounds" with the Mets logo that protected the trees in the parking lot are receiving bids of more than $1,000. Menu board signs from concession stands are fetching bids around $1,000. A section of the outfield wall goes for close to $900. Bids on ketchup and mustard holders with the Mets logo are more than $500. Even a neon Bud Light sign has a bid of $515. As a literal sign of better times, an outfield wall panel with an AIG advertisement had a bid of $1,420. "This (sale) only happens once every 45 years," Meisel said. A Jersey boy Meisel and his partner Bob Gray started the MeiGray Group in the 1990s. After 19 years as a sportswriter for the Daily News covering professional hockey and the New York Giants, Meisel said he became tired of traveling. Meisel's decision to channel his interest in sports into a new career came at an opportune time. With the economy growing steadily, the market for collectible sports memorabilia began to boom in the late 1990s. He developed the idea of selling authenticated jerseys that were worn by professional hockey players. He wrote a business plan and approached one of the teams that he used to cover, the New York Rangers, and in August 1997 signed an exclusive deal to sell the team's previously worn jerseys. The Rangers deal led to agreements with the New Jersey Devils. Next, the MeiGray group inked deals with NBA teams. An NHL or NBA player goes through about six jerseys during a season, three in the home uniform and three in the away uniforms, he said. Last week, as Meisel was sitting in the warehouse, he showed a jersey that had been worn the previous night by Elton Brand, an NBA veteran free agent, who had made his debut as a Philadelphia 76er on the night of Wednesday, Oct. 29. "It smells," Meisel said. "It's sweaty." But it's also valuable to collectors and fans of Brand. That's why representatives, working with the teams' equipment managers, of the MeiGray Group often go into locker rooms immediately after games to get the jerseys. The key to the business, headquartered in Branchburg, is the authentication process that guarantees buyers they are getting genuine items. The jersey comes with a letter of authentication with the team's letterhead, Meisel said. The MeiGray Group has seven full-time employees who are responsible for acquiring the items, cataloging and pricing them, selling them and then shipping them to the buyers. "We have a great staff," Meisel said, adding that he hires collectors to help him put values on the items. The company's growing reputation was one of the reasons why the MeiGray Group got the contract with the Mets to sell the memorabilia from Shea Stadium, which is owned by the City of New York. Meisel is no longer spending hours away from home traveling for his job, but said he works from 60 to 70 hours a week. "I'm happy," he said. "This is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity." John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 03 2008 07:58 AM ="soupcan"]Dunkin' Donuts Down! Finally some destruction I can support. It be cool if we cracked that open and Rachel Ray would come out naked. Edgy DC Nov 03 2008 08:01 AM it would be kind of cool to give the Agee marker to the Agee family. Ditto the Seaver/Stengel/Hodges numbers. Farmer Ted Nov 03 2008 08:42 AM The DD sign was an eyesore. Those stupid police lights and the K sign were bad ideas drawn up by some idiot in a board room. Edgy DC Nov 03 2008 08:47 AM Doesn't this look like they composed a Met jersey and photoshopped it onto a Yankee picture of Wille? metirish Nov 03 2008 08:48 AM ] Finally some destruction I can support. It be cool if we cracked that open and Rachel Ray would come out naked. Saw her recently and couldn't believe how heavy she has gotten. Benjamin Grimm Nov 03 2008 08:55 AM Rachael Ray is an example of how someone can be both cute AND unappealing at the same time. Edgy DC Nov 03 2008 08:58 AM Can we just not talk about happy homemakers from TV ever? Benjamin Grimm Nov 03 2008 09:04 AM metsguyinmichigan Nov 03 2008 09:53 AM ="Benjamin Grimm":2zdqcdh1]Rachael Ray is an example of how someone can be both cute AND unappealing at the same time.[/quote:2zdqcdh1] Well, if you go back to the early shows on Food Network, she was always a little chunky, part of her girl next door appeal. She certainly had a makeover when the show went big, and this year appeared to have some, um, surgical enhancements, in the chest area, unless they did some severe Photoshop work for the magazine covers. My crush on Rachael is well-known, and somewhat tolerated by my wife. Benjamin Grimm Nov 03 2008 11:14 AM It's not her weight that makes her unappealing, it's the noises that come out of her mouth. G-Fafif Nov 03 2008 11:42 AM ="Edgy DC":2j9ucmx8]Doesn't this look like they composed a Met jersey and photoshopped it onto a Yankee picture of Wille? [/quote:2j9ucmx8] This would explain why the Mets in recent years seemed so flat. metsguyinmichigan Nov 03 2008 12:10 PM ="Benjamin Grimm":1wzmvwjl]It's not her weight that makes her unappealing, it's the noises that come out of her mouth.[/quote:1wzmvwjl] She talks? Benjamin Grimm Nov 03 2008 12:17 PM She tries. themetfairy Nov 03 2008 01:02 PM She squawks. seawolf17 Nov 03 2008 02:46 PM ="soupcan":1mxbmvn9]A sign of team mascot Mr. Met saying smoking is prohibited in the stadium has already been sold for $100, Meisel said.[/quote:1mxbmvn9] FUCKIN' HELL. That's all I wanted from the stadium. I just left a message with someone at MeiGray. soupcan Nov 07 2008 07:18 AM Found these at baseball-fever.com First game ever at Shea... Last game ever at Shea... Benjamin Grimm Nov 07 2008 07:37 AM It was prettier when it opened than when it closed. Edgy DC Nov 07 2008 08:39 AM The pitch could have been in better condition. G-Fafif Nov 07 2008 09:00 AM A ballpark that looked better with a parking lot in the background will now itself be a parking lot. The irony is as thick as the outfield grass was thin. Benjamin Grimm Nov 07 2008 09:12 AM Looking at the two photos together really shows how much garishness was added to Shea over the years. I'm sure Citi Field with start out with a lot of that clutter already in place. I can only imagine what it will look like 40 years from now. (And I hope I live to find out! At this point, another 40 years is about as much as I care to get.) John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 07 2008 09:33 AM ="Edgy DC":2749cxyp]The pitch could have been in better condition.[/quote:2749cxyp] Shea was barely complete when it opened. They worked till the very last minute. They said it was very soft and muddy in the outfield. metirish Nov 07 2008 09:40 AM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":1qbr6llo] ="Edgy DC":1qbr6llo]The pitch could have been in better condition.[/quote:1qbr6llo] Shea was barely complete when it opened. They worked till the very last minute. They said it was very soft and muddy in the outfield.[/quote:1qbr6llo] Was there even a fence at the back behind CF separating it form the parking lot , it's hard to tell. soupcan Nov 07 2008 09:43 AM And half of the parking lot isn't even paved yet. Willets Point Nov 07 2008 09:46 AM All the cars are the same size though. soupcan Nov 11 2008 08:03 AM First base Field level is gone, Third base nearly so. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 08:14 AM One advantage to implosions (yes, I realize that wasn't possible in this case) is that they're quick. This is like a band-aid being slowly and painfully peeled off. seawolf17 Nov 11 2008 11:29 AM ="themetfairy":2tehg78d]One advantage to implosions (yes, I realize that wasn't possible in this case) is that they're quick. This is like a band-aid being slowly and painfully peeled off.[/quote:2tehg78d] No kidding. I should stop opening this thread. G-Fafif Nov 11 2008 12:26 PM That sure was some tadium. Zvon Nov 11 2008 12:57 PM ="themetfairy":3vpl9tnq]One advantage to implosions (yes, I realize that wasn't possible in this case) is that they're quick. This is like a band-aid being slowly and painfully peeled off.[/quote:3vpl9tnq] I couldn't have said it better. I have to say I am a bit surprised how the destruction of Shea is effecting me. It has to be this slow torturous way I'm viewing it bit by bit. ="seawolf17":3vpl9tnq]No kidding. I should stop opening this thread.[/quote:3vpl9tnq] I'm with you seawolf17. Edgy DC Nov 11 2008 01:12 PM We let this happen. More than a few advocated it's happening. It's no time to turn away now. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 01:22 PM I'll own up to wanting the new stadium. I'm not denying that. But I've seen this transition done in several other cities during the past few years, and to a team they've all handled it better than the Mets have. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 01:34 PM I'm enjoying the pictures and saving everyone one of them. Keep 'em coming, I stopped licking my wound about ten days ago. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 01:35 PM tmf: they've all handled it better than the Mets have <<< How so? soupcan Nov 11 2008 01:39 PM I'll miss the old girl too but c'mon. Think of what it will be like having wide walkways! Benjamin Grimm Nov 11 2008 01:42 PM Wide walkways and legroom are nothing to sneeze at. I'd feel differently if I still lived in New York. But as rarely as I get to Shea Queens to see the Mets play anymore, I don't think Citi Field will ever feel like home to me. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 01:44 PM I remember the Phillies homage to the Vet in 2003 - a stadium that was younger than Shea and didn't have nearly the history Shea did. IIRC they were the first to take down a number before each game, but they made sure that every number was taken down by someone with a meaningful connection to the team or the stadium (not a Lincoln Mercury dealer in the lot). Their post-game ceremony after their final game was very moving (I'll find the link to it shortly), without the idiotic delay that Mets fans had to endure after Shea's final game. They had books ghost written by the Phillies Phanatic helping prepare younger fans for the move. From top to bottom it just seemed like a much better thought out operation. Edgy DC Nov 11 2008 01:49 PM That has little to do with photos of the de-construction. Is a delay before a ceremony such a big deal? themetfairy Nov 11 2008 01:52 PM The delay before the ceremony was just endemic of the half-assed job the Mets did in properly celebrating Shea's final season. They had an opportunity to do the old girl real justice, and they dropped the ball every chance they could. I couldn't find that footage of the final game ceremony at the Vet on the Phillies' site (and I feel very dirty trolling around there - ick!). But it had much more of a well-planned feel to it. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 01:56 PM How did we get from handling the transition in a day by day demolition thread which you said other teams did better to closing ceremonies and silly number countdowns? themetfairy Nov 11 2008 02:06 PM ="KC"]How did we get from handling the transition in a day by day demolition thread which you said other teams did better to closing ceremonies and silly number countdowns? I mentioned the transition in general. You asked for details. I think that if the Mets did a better job in paying homage to Shea this past season that people wouldn't be as upset about its destruction as they are. Agree or disagree with that premise - it's merely a theory. Edgy DC Nov 11 2008 02:08 PM I wouldn't feel dirty seeking for it if you liked it. If you like it, you like it. It's all MLB's website anyhow. I'm just not ready to kick the Mets because they don't demolish the stadium in a manner comparable to the White Sox or the Rangers. Or such having anything to do with why folks say they won't open this thread. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 02:12 PM You seem to be switching gears, going from "we let this happen/some advocated for it" to "I'm not ready to kick the Mets." You cool with this or not? Kong76 Nov 11 2008 02:15 PM tmf: I mentioned the transition in general. You asked for details <<< How did all the others "to a team" handle the dismantling of their old stadium better than the Mets? Edgy DC Nov 11 2008 02:21 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Nov 11 2008 02:27 PM You're excerpting phrases out of sentences there. It's clear to anybody that I didn't support a new stadium. How it's demolished is a moot point and I don't see how it can be done better, or indeed has been done better by everyone else. Frayed Knot Nov 11 2008 02:25 PM Maybe they can demolish the stadium by bringing each piece out on a velvet pillow laid out on a sled pulled by a puppy dog. I'm sure we'd all feel better then. This wound-licking is getting too much. I want video of the destruction and i hope it's bloody. Benjamin Grimm Nov 11 2008 02:29 PM I don't think the Mets did such a bad job with the last year of Shea. Yeah, there were too many Lincoln-Mercury dealers pulling down the numbers. But I think the closing ceremony was nicely done. Very nicely done. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 02:36 PM The physical demolition of Shea has to be done in this manner because implosion is not possible. My point is that I don't think that people would be reacting to the demolition process as painfully as they are if the Mets had done a better job of honoring Shea properly in its final season. Benjamin Grimm Nov 11 2008 02:38 PM Speaking only for myself, I just find it a little bit sad. No pain though. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 02:39 PM I know people who are in real pain over this. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 02:44 PM There's no way I could cull what fairy's point was from what she typed, I don't read posters minds, we were talking about the demolition pics. Problem with getting too wrapped up in the Mets will never be the same with- out good ol' Shea is before you know it's twenty years from now and you're writing letters to the paper like Bob L about how greener the grass was there and popcorn fresher. The bathroom floors were even drier and less sticky 20 years from now too I bet and those wonderful sight lines ... themetfairy Nov 11 2008 02:50 PM If that's the case, then I weep for the yet-to-be-finished Citi Field. Frayed Knot Nov 11 2008 02:54 PM I think we're starting to sound like the wound-lickers we used to make fun of; - oh no, this stadium is being destroyed worse than any other stadium in the history of destroyed stadiums - only the Mets could paint their foul lines crooked - why did Shea have to die so young? Kong76 Nov 11 2008 02:57 PM tmf: I know people who are in real pain over this <<< Send 'em here! Edgy DC Nov 11 2008 03:00 PM ="Frayed Knot":3qcqh3up]I think we're starting to sound like the wound-lickers we used to make fun of; - oh no, this stadium is being destroyed worse than any other stadium in the history of destroyed stadiums - only the Mets could paint their foul lines crooked - why did Shea have to die so young?[/quote:3qcqh3up] Wait a minute, that second one wuz you. Edgy DC Nov 11 2008 03:00 PM ="KC"]tmf: I know people who are in real pain over this <<< Send 'em here! I think they're minors. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 03:02 PM Actually, Iubital's post yesterday ("it doesn't surprise me") started me on this build up of let's stop the wound licking that was bound to come out. I think. I ain't going back to look. (OE: meaning the foul line not lining up) themetfairy Nov 11 2008 03:18 PM ="Edgy DC"] ="KC"]tmf: I know people who are in real pain over this <<< Send 'em here! I think they're minors. No - the minors I know aren't as connected to Shea as most of the adults I know. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 03:24 PM How do they feel about the demolition? Do the also feel that it's being handled "to a team" much worse by the Mets? Or are they just bitter about the closing ceremonies and number countdown too? Send 'em here. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 03:32 PM Who are you talking about? Kong76 Nov 11 2008 03:39 PM The people who are in real pain over this, McFly. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 03:45 PM I'll leave it to them to specifically reply to you or not. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 03:50 PM If they're here (and I suspected they were) then you should have left them out of your poor defense to begin with and let them speak for themselves. You wiggled off like four hooks in this thread. G-Fafif Nov 11 2008 04:06 PM There is beauty, pain and joy in baseball. When they gut and pry apart where you experienced most of it, a person is likely to reflect on all three and feel, upon viewing the kinds of pictures in question, one of those sensations in particular. The beauty and the joy may have been carried out safely before MeiGray could sell them, but it is not surprising that the pain should linger and overshadow for many if not all across the duration of the demolition. Later? Who knows? We haven't been there yet. I suspect the beauty and the pain and the joy will coalesce into the warmer memories the magic of distance allows. Reality says somebody's doing a job in taking down Shea Stadium. Reality says the plan has been on the table long enough for everybody to adjust to the plan. But baseball and reality were never intended to mesh so easily. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 04:17 PM Eloquent as ever, and on topic. Bravo! themetfairy Nov 11 2008 04:29 PM ="KC":cumx5g68]If they're here (and I suspected they were) then you should have left them out of your poor defense to begin with and let them speak for themselves. You wiggled off like four hooks in this thread.[/quote:cumx5g68] Don't ask direct questions if you're not going to like the answers. What was I supposed to do? Ignore you? G-Fafif Nov 11 2008 04:32 PM ="KC":3vuetxpl]Eloquent as ever, and on topic. Bravo![/quote:3vuetxpl] Thanks much, but just throwing the last pitch of what TMF stated quite reasonably, I think...Benitez to the Fairy's Leiter, as it were. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 04:33 PM Thanks G. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 04:35 PM I disagree, I think she said something and then changed it to something else and then played on then something else. I have to stop, I'm gonna start getting PM's about causing waves in the bath tub. Frayed Knot Nov 11 2008 04:38 PM ="Edgy DC"] ="Frayed Knot"]I think we're starting to sound like the wound-lickers we used to make fun of; - oh no, this stadium is being destroyed worse than any other stadium in the history of destroyed stadiums - only the Mets could paint their foul lines crooked - why did Shea have to die so young? Wait a minute, that second one wuz you. Yes, but I was just noting the fact that they looked off via the angle in that aerial shot. What followed was a reply which stated that only the Mets could do something like that as if the new stadium really will have foul poles 150' from home plate on account of this organization being so incompetant that the thought of seeing where the lines actually lead hasn't yet occured to anyone during this whole multi-million dollar operation. I'd bring up the one post wondering if they really had to ruin the grass with all that machinery during the deconstruction but I don't think that one was totally serious (although I waver at times). G-Fafif Nov 11 2008 04:39 PM I find it way more upsetting that I posted my way up from Richie Hebner only to morph into Jerry DiPoto. Who ranks these things? Oh right. Us. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 04:46 PM ="KC":6z6ktyl3]I disagree, I think she said something and then changed it to something else and then played on then something else. I have to stop, I'm gonna start getting PM's about causing waves in the bath tub.[/quote:6z6ktyl3] I did nothing of the kind. I answered a question that you asked me. You chose not to like the answer. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 05:05 PM I ain't outlining it for you, and don't be so fucking snippy. You're not always right. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 05:07 PM I'm just playing defense here. I'm not the one accusing people of changing things around. Nor have I done or said anything that merits you swearing at me. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 05:16 PM I'm sorry, but you're just freakin' maddening sometimes. Poorly handled transition does not equal demolition. Go wiggle yourself. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 05:24 PM I never said it equaled demolition. I was talking about people's reactions to the demolition. And nothing I said justifies the kind of reaction you're having. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 05:33 PM No, your first response was about the closing ceremonies and the count down .... have you been drinking with cooby? I'm comfortable with my reaction for purposes of this thread and I apologize for cursing and that's all I have to say on the matter. C'mon, "go wiggle yourself" was pretty funny. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 05:43 PM No, I have not been drinking. This is what you consider an apology? I made a comment about the transition being handled poorly. You asked me to extrapolate. I did, and you reacted in a pretty hostile manner. If you don't like my opinion that's your prerogative. But you needn't go off like that just because you disagree with it. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 05:50 PM I apologized for cursing, that's it. Your reading comprehension skills are taking a beating in this thread. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 05:54 PM No. I'm simply taking a beating for not seeing an issue exactly the way that you do. Kong76 Nov 12 2008 04:20 AM A beating? If I was gonna get nasty I'd dig up a picture of you in a Phillies uniform and really stick it to you. I'm ultimately taking the beating when we argue because the bath house mentality of this board will almost always side with you. Mean ol' KC. *sigh* HahnSolo Nov 12 2008 06:42 AM Hi, I'm here for the "intelligent, lively and provocative discussion of the Mets, Ed Kranepool, and on a good day, the Ramones." Am I in the right place? Kong76 Nov 12 2008 06:58 AM seawolf17 Nov 12 2008 07:17 AM ="HahnSolo":3u9spspm]Hi, I'm here for the "intelligent, lively and provocative discussion of the Mets, Ed Kranepool, and on a good day, the Ramones." Am I in the right place?[/quote:3u9spspm] Eff that. I come here for the weekly KC/Scarlet fights. Edgy DC Nov 12 2008 07:35 AM I missed a GREAT NIGHT. Zvon Nov 12 2008 08:48 PM whats all this then....? Pages of posts but nary an image. Addressing the issue of pain... Some of us do feel pain in regard to Shea's demise. It's not even that bad. Its a pang....a feeling of remorse. It hurts on a level that's hard to express, and its a passing phase. Eventually this will be a thing of the past. Not yet though, seeing it being ripped down bit by bit, here and at other places as well. I have been going around and collecting pictures of Shea myself. Anything I come across. Early days,recent times,....even the demolition. So I bop in here and I see there have been additions to the Shea Photo thread, and I'm like, "Oh kool! Maybe its one I haven't seen. Hope its the older Shea...but any nice pic of Shea would be sweet to see..." I hope to see pictures of Shea in way of a recollection, an homage. That's just me though. Maybe there should be a seperate thread for Shea's demolition, ...I dunno. But it's really not a big deal. As you can see I'll still check out this thread, hoping for kool pics of Shea Stadium when it was in use. I've come across some really great Shea photos online recently, especially at Baseball Fever. Like this one. I am 95% positive that thats me running onto the field after game 5 of the '73 NLCS. Edgy DC Nov 12 2008 09:05 PM Classy look. Apparently, nobody was allowed in that day --- by law --- except 21-year-old white males with shoulder-length hair, workshirts, and bellbottoms. Zvon Nov 12 2008 09:15 PM ="Edgy DC":3fjgok91]Classy look. Apparently, nobody was allowed in that day --- by law --- except 21-year-old white males with shoulder-length hair, workshirts, and bellbottoms.[/quote:3fjgok91] Not so. I was 15. Kong76 Nov 13 2008 04:34 AM EDC: Classy look. Apparently, nobody was allowed in that day --- by law --- except 21-year-old white males with shoulder-length hair, workshirts, and bellbottoms ------------- I never noticed, but you're right. It looks like they just opened a gate for field level gen adm for a Deep Purple concert or something and all the guys are scrambling to get a good spot. Cool picture to be in. G-Fafif Nov 13 2008 05:42 AM It's fascinating, from a cultural perspective, to contrast the crowds storming the field images from '69 and '73. The tumult of the '60s may have waned away from the ballpark, but its remnants seem to have become codified in places that were largely shielded from change while change was at its most intense: like the ballpark. (Which is probably what pissed Dick Young off so.) It's often been said there was more of an edge to the '73 rushing of the field than '69's, for what that's worth. I don't remember the Orioles complaining they were frightened for their well-being the way the Reds did. That YouTube clip that MLB pulled earlier this year, the pregame show from Game Four of the '73 World Series, showed (to me anyway) what a different world we were living in versus four years earlier, not just in style but substance. If you recall, Kubek, Seaver and Hunter were all taking Charlie Finley to task for his handling of the Mike Andrews situation. Questioning authority, kind of a radical concept in establishment circles in 1969, was part of the polyester fabric of the game by 1973. Probably not a coincidence this was the same year as the Senate's Watergate hearings nor that within two weeks there would be such a backlash to the Saturday Night Massacre. soupcan Nov 14 2008 09:54 AM Latest shots from wcbs880 chopper... Field level is completely gone now. Here's some interesting stuff that I got from baseball fever. Shea Demolition Plans: Edgy DC Nov 14 2008 09:58 AM What's a "NON-BEARTING STRUCTURE"? Benjamin Grimm Nov 14 2008 10:00 AM Before anyone else beats me to it, let me just get this out of the way: It figures! The stupid Mets can't even get the spelling right! Willets Point Nov 14 2008 10:04 AM Question for Zvon. Is your shirt open showing your Siegfried & Roy hairless chest or were you wearing a fleshtone t-shirt? Zvon Nov 14 2008 01:26 PM ="Willets Point"]Question for Zvon. Is your shirt open showing your Siegfried & Roy hairless chest or were you wearing a fleshtone t-shirt? lol. I never went around displaying my slinky chest so I'm sure that's a T-shirt. Doubt it was fleshtone, probly orange. Thing is I'm not positive that's me. First time I saw the pic I looked right past that guy searching for me. Eventually I got back to him and thought that must be me. I have no recollection of what I wore that day. I do know I was a skinny guy with long hair who always wore white sneaks. If I had on a flannel shirt, which I wore often enough, it be rolled up at the sleeves. And the path I took puts me right about where that guy is. After that I ran to the edge of the home plate grass, stopped... saw that girl on the mound (looks like she's going for the rubber <[joke setup<]).. our eyes met...I ran to her on the mound and we did a Koosman/Grote type jump and hug. Twirled in a circle, split and ran in different directions. I never saw her again but I'll never forget that moment. Benjamin Grimm Nov 14 2008 01:27 PM I had no idea that Marlo Thomas was there that day! metirish Nov 14 2008 01:34 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Nov 14 2008 01:34 PM WOW , what a great picture , guy in the yellow shirt at second stands out and I count three suits that might be security , one to the right of yellow shirt and one to the left of Buddy and one n front of him. Edgy DC Nov 14 2008 01:34 PM That's a great story. How about Barry Gibb chicken dancing to your right? Zvon Nov 14 2008 01:37 PM ="Edgy DC":38ctzctd]That's a great story. How about Barry Gibb chicken dancing to your right?[/quote:38ctzctd] No hug for him. Zvon Nov 14 2008 02:31 PM The thing about storming (and that's a very apt description) of the field in '73, and why it did get out of control, was that every kid wanted to be part of that moment, to be part of the celebration like in '69. And as the game went on we all had the same idea : to get down to field level so it was possible. We did the same thing during game four. I ended up on the 1st base side then. Rose hit that extra inning homer and the celebration was over. I was right on the rail behind the added box on the 3rd base side late in game 5. The Reds families were sitting in them. Eventually the game was stopped and they were led out to the Reds bullpen for their safety. And it's not that we were bothering them personally in any way, shape or form (fans did taunt them when they were being led away though, lol). Its just that there was a sea of people behind them that became like one big giant swaying creature. We could not move independently, could hardly even breath. And you know what I did then? I jumped the rail into the make shift box. Like the Reds families I was a bit concerned for my safety. Unfortunately everyone along the rail ended up jumping into the box like lemmings. Again we became crammed. I saw the fans on the 1st base side did the same thing, but they were so packed in that the little wooden wall that enclosed the section collapsed, and they spilled out onto the field. The game had to be halted again. Tug was on the mound at this point. He was pissed off. I remember him approaching the pile of people waving his arms over and over in an upward motion as if to say EVERYONE! BACK UP AND INTO THE STANDS! It was pretty crazy. I got so sandwiched in the corner of the box that I felt that we were gonna burst out on this side too. I jumped out and went down into the Reds dugout. I was able to hide in plain sight there for quite a few minutes, sitting on a stool in the far corner of the dugout. Eventually a cop came up to me and asked what I was doing there. I told him...I was trying to stay alive, lol. He told me I had to stay alive back up in the stands. This was when I was shown on TV, when the cop was talking to me. (my parents and brothers got to see that from home. My bros thought it was the koolest thing, my folks were like wtf were you doing?). I've told this story before here (I have also mentioned looking for the footage of me on TV and it is nowhere to be found.) but I don't think I ever stressed the point that what happened occurred because too many kids had this dream of being in a '69 like celebration highlight reel. And what actually happened was we so embarrassed the team, the game, the city, that that footage will forever be locked away and forgotten. One of my best Shea memories though. A Boy Named Seo Nov 14 2008 02:40 PM I re-read that part about you being in the Reds dugout a couple times thinking I misread or misunderstood you. That's the craziest thing I've ever heard. Wild story, man. Thanks for sharing. dgwphotography Nov 15 2008 12:28 PM I think I'm one of the one's in real pain over this that TMF is referring to. The thing is not once has the countdown, the ceremonies, or anything that the Mets did or didn't do play a role in it. It is simply the fact that a place that has been a desired destination for me for over 35 years is no longer there. Shea is a place that I dreamed about visiting since my aunt gave me my first yearbook in 1972. It's the knowledge that I will never feel the attachment to the new place that I do to the old place. It's the fact that it was a home away from home of sorts - a place where I knew ever nook and cranny, where I knew where to get the best knishes, or the best dogs. A place that is home to so many memories. Whatever the Mets did or didn't do to mark this occasion plays no role in how I feel about it. Benjamin Grimm Nov 15 2008 01:43 PM I agree with that, except for the part about feeling real pain. I feel a touch of sadness, and a sense of loss, but I wouldn't call it pain. Kong76 Nov 15 2008 04:31 PM I'd like to get a copy of that CAD file with the non bearting typo. Hell, they show part of the guy's name and addy and it was easily discovered who and where he is. Maybe he's got a sense of humor and would leak one to us. Edgy DC Nov 15 2008 07:56 PM Scarsdale. Vic can take a short drive and knock on his door. cooby Nov 16 2008 08:19 PM Zvon, great picture, great stories! cooby Nov 16 2008 08:20 PM And what does "Non Bearting" mean? soupcan Nov 18 2008 11:01 AM All of these from baseball-fever.com Edgy DC Nov 18 2008 11:11 AM What? The auction house couldn't generate any action on the spongetech.com sign? Farmer Ted Nov 18 2008 11:17 AM Soup's top photo shows the location of our old seats. Crushing. Willets Point Nov 18 2008 11:25 AM ="Edgy DC":133d3wiq]What? The auction house couldn't generate any action on the spongetech.com sign?[/quote:133d3wiq] Maybe Bubba Sponge? Farmer Ted Nov 18 2008 11:31 AM Missed the Spongetech sign. Very sponge worthy. soupcan Nov 20 2008 10:01 AM More pictures available at nycsubway.org 9/1963 5/10/1964 8/1/1979 8/1/1979 Tiles removed between 1979 and 1980. 8/16/1980 9/24/2008 holychicken Nov 24 2008 09:01 AM Might be a bit late for this coming in after all of the destruction pics . . . but this is one of my favorite pictures of shea. It is my gf's younger sister. John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 24 2008 09:47 AM ="holychicken"]Might be a bit late for this coming in after all of the destruction pics . . . but this is one of my favorite pictures of shea. It is my gf's younger sister. Is she like, legal? holychicken Nov 24 2008 09:56 AM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":22rs38rb]Is she like, legal?[/quote:22rs38rb] Oh, I see. You see a dark-skinned person and immediately think "illegal immigrant." You should be ashamed! ehehhe SteveJRogers Nov 24 2008 11:37 AM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket"] ="holychicken"]Might be a bit late for this coming in after all of the destruction pics . . . but this is one of my favorite pictures of shea. It is my gf's younger sister. Is she like, legal? Uh, 'Bucket, aren't you very much attached at the moment? Now Chicken, I ask you the same question! Benjamin Grimm Nov 24 2008 11:39 AM I find it a little odd to be lusting after someone when all you know is the shape of her nose. Edgy DC Nov 24 2008 11:44 AM And which pores are and aren't corrupted. holychicken Nov 24 2008 12:06 PM Exactly. I didn't even post a picture of her most desirable body part, her posterior. Dear god, tell me my gf doesn't read this forum or she will surely whup me. seawolf17 Nov 24 2008 12:08 PM ="holychicken":21z05y4i]Exactly. I didn't even post a picture of her most desirable body part, her posterior. Dear god, tell me my gf doesn't read this forum or she will surely whup me.[/quote:21z05y4i] It's okay, you can still post it. We don't mind. Edgy DC Nov 24 2008 12:25 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Nov 24 2008 12:42 PM Butts, schmutz. Steve's a snot man. seawolf17 Nov 24 2008 12:38 PM ="Edgy DC":1hrzmxox]Butts, schmutz. Steve's a snot man.[/quote:1hrzmxox] Must be a Yankee fan thing. SteveJRogers Nov 24 2008 01:14 PM ="holychicken":26x42lii]Exactly. I didn't even post a picture of her most desirable body part, her posterior. Dear god, tell me my gf doesn't read this forum or she will surely whup me.[/quote:26x42lii] Geez, I was just following Bucket's lead. I mean I need some Met Chick love more than he does! soupcan Dec 04 2008 08:12 AM All from baseball-fever John Cougar Lunchbucket Dec 04 2008 08:18 AM Mike Mulligan always said his Steam Shovel could take down one stadium as fast as 100 men could in a day, although he was never quite sure of that. Benjamin Grimm Dec 04 2008 08:26 AM So now they're chewing away at the Loge level? Are they going to get to a point where there's just an unattached Upper Level (or Upper Tank as Keith Hernandez would call it) floating high in the air? soupcan Dec 04 2008 08:28 AM Yeah that's weird isn't it? You'd think they'd go top to bottom rather than the other way around. I'd like to think that they are professional demolishers and know what they are doing rather than they might just be stupid. Edgy DC Dec 04 2008 09:21 AM I don't know. These two guys aren't winning any smart awards with me right now. << dgwphotography Dec 04 2008 10:58 AM ="soupcan"] Zvon - is it me, or does this look tone-mapped? It looks like it has that HDR glow to it... HahnSolo Dec 04 2008 11:21 AM ="Edgy DC":2sv0q5gv] I don't know. These two guys aren't winning any smart awards with me right now. << [/quote:2sv0q5gv] Those two guys are still waiting for their hot pretzel ordered at the last home game. G-Fafif Dec 04 2008 12:30 PM Talk about your stiff Breezes playing havoc with Shea's outfield. Valadius Dec 04 2008 02:00 PM Part of me is rooting to see the picture of them ripping down that Fox News sign. Edgy DC Dec 04 2008 02:14 PM You strike me as somewhat partisan. Am I right? soupcan Dec 04 2008 02:17 PM Who Vlad? Nah - he's as fair and balanced as they come. Kong76 Dec 04 2008 03:45 PM I sent those latest photos to a friend of mine. He wrote back that he thought they were building a new stadium and not just fixing up Shea and slappin' on a new coat of paint like in years gone by. Chucklehead. Zvon Dec 04 2008 04:57 PM ="Iubitul"] ="soupcan"] Zvon - is it me, or does this look tone-mapped? It looks like it has that HDR glow to it... Yes. Especially in comparison with the others. It does bring the shaded areas out. Zvon Dec 04 2008 05:02 PM I wish they would get this over with. How are they gonna take down the highest heights sans demolition? themetfairy Dec 04 2008 05:12 PM It may take a while. I remember Old Comiskey Park was in a state of partial demolition when we visited New Comiskey in August of 1991. Kong76 Dec 04 2008 05:22 PM Z: How are they gonna take down the highest heights sans demolition? <=== Cranes and stuff, and how is what they've been doing not demolition? Kong76 Dec 04 2008 05:52 PM tmf: It may take a while. <=== They don't really have much time if they plan to level the joint and make it a parking lot. My guess is they'll finish well before opening day. I don't want to get into union contracts twice tonight, but they make it worth it to finish on time so there's no lolligaggin' nowadays. Zvon Dec 05 2008 03:10 PM ="KC":21ab889l]Cranes and stuff, and how is what they've been doing not demolition?[/quote:21ab889l] Sorry. I meant the usage of explosive charges. Kong76 Dec 05 2008 03:42 PM I figured, I was just goofin'. soupcan Dec 09 2008 08:13 AM Upper deck wrecking ball. BAM! Benjamin Grimm Dec 09 2008 08:32 AM They should have painted the wrecking ball to look like a baseball. metirish Dec 09 2008 08:33 AM That would have been really taking the piss on those that see that as a sad event. Benjamin Grimm Dec 09 2008 08:37 AM It would be a nod to tradition. It's what they did with the Ebbets Field wrecking ball. The same ball was used a few years later on the Polo Grounds: Benjamin Grimm Dec 09 2008 08:50 AM Cincinnati's Crosley Field too! soupcan Dec 13 2008 02:19 PM Wow - now I'm even starting to have a hard time looking... baseball-fever.com Benjamin Grimm Dec 13 2008 02:36 PM Yikes. Edgy DC Dec 13 2008 02:55 PM GYAH! Kong76 Dec 13 2008 07:10 PM They didn't sell the panels depicting the leap and Seaver's head? Edgy DC Dec 13 2008 07:23 PM It looks like the terrorist hit we were praying wouldn't happen actually did. Kong76 Dec 13 2008 07:44 PM Fuck terrorists, an accidental plane crash on a foggy evening in the wrong flight path was what I thought mighta happened one day. *62 Dec 14 2008 12:56 PM The pictures may be gruesome but the Stadium has overstayed its welcome. I may miss living in Brooklyn desperately, but 3,000 sq. ft. is way better than 920. Edgy DC Dec 14 2008 05:11 PM I don't get the reference. *62 Dec 14 2008 05:39 PM I love Shea for lots of reasons, and will miss it some ..... but it's a dump. Better? Edgy DC Dec 14 2008 05:53 PM I thought those numbers referred to something. Rockin' Doc Dec 14 2008 06:57 PM I think *62 lives in Florida if my memory is correct. He apparently once lived in Brooklyn and apparently hung out at Shea quite a bit in the past. I think he was stating that he missed living in Brooklyn, but preferred the 3000 sq. ft. of living space he can now afford over the 920 sq. ft. of living space he had in Brooklyn. Living in the south and comparing costs for homes with my friends and relatives relatives that live near the city, I understand what he is referring too. Then again, maybe I miss interpreted the meaning of his post. Either way, it's nice to have *62 posting here again. I hope he hangs around. soupcan Dec 16 2008 01:42 PM StadiumPage.com Benjamin Grimm Dec 16 2008 02:04 PM It's amazing that just ten weeks ago it was still full of color and people and noise. soupcan Dec 18 2008 07:45 PM soupcan Dec 29 2008 07:51 AM soupcan Jan 05 2009 12:40 PM G-Fafif Jan 05 2009 12:52 PM Impressive Photoshopping, Soup. Quite interesting to see what Shea Stadium would look like if somebody went mad and started to tear it down. If it wouldn't be too much trouble, please put Shea back together again. Thank you. batmagadanleadoff Jan 05 2009 01:18 PM ="soupcan"]http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q308/soupcan11/shea5-1.jpg That neon batter just reminded me of Gary Carter' follow through, particularly the way Gary would take an inside pitch and line drive one-bounce it to the outfielder for a single. Are there any other Mets that the neon hitter resembles? Edgy DC Jan 05 2009 02:35 PM Looks kind of slender for Carter. It also looks like a guy going to right, while Carter more typically pulled. metirish Jan 13 2009 01:35 PM from 01/10/2009 metsguyinmichigan Jan 13 2009 02:35 PM They're not saving any of the neon players? I know they're huge. but heck, they could slice them up and sell them for $10 a foot to geeks like me! Zvon Jan 13 2009 02:58 PM ="metsguyinmichigan":8phckkps]They're not saving any of the neon players? I know they're huge. but heck, they could slice them up and sell them for $10 a foot to geeks like me![/quote:8phckkps] Why sell just their feet? John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 13 2009 04:19 PM wham G-Fafif Jan 13 2009 04:53 PM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":1virpusd]wham[/quote:1virpusd] "Wake Me Up Before You Go Go" vs. "Baby I'm Your Man" Whoops...wrong thread. metirish Jan 15 2009 08:00 AM Newsday today has a classic Shea pictures collection. Die-hard fans dance in the aisles at 1:50 a.m. during the 21st inning of a 25-inning marathon game between the Mets and the Cardinals at Shea Stadium. (AP Photo / September 12, 1974) A view of Shea Stadium during the national anthem before a New York Mets-Los Angeles Dodgers game in 1973. (AP Photo / June 9, 1973) Fans rush onto the field and players celebrate after the Mets defeated the Baltimore Orioles to win the 1969 World Series. (AP Photo / October 16, 1969 A view of Shea Stadium after after souvenir-hunting fans ripped up the sod following the Mets' victory in the 1969 World Series. (AP Photo / October 16, 1969) Pirates first baseman Willie Stargell waves to the crowd at Shea Stadium during Willie Stargell Night at Shea. The man at left wiping his eye is Nelson Doubleday, Mets chairman of the board. (Newsday / Paul J. Bereswill / September 27, 1982 The new owners of the Mets pose at Shea Stadium. From left: Stephen E. O'Neil, president of City Investing Company; Nelson Doubleday, president of Doubleday Co.; Fred Wilpon, Chairman of the Board of Sterling Equities and John O. Pickett, owner of the NHL New York Islanders, who was instrumental in setting up the sale of the team. Pickett was not listed as an owner of the club. (AP File Photo / January 25, 1980) Car fire involving several cars in the Shea Stadium parking lot during a game in 2002. (AP Photo / April 27, 2002) Workers Angelo DiMaria, left, and Dominico Bannezo clean off old paint and rust as they get Shea Stadium ready for Opening Day in 2001. (Newsdya / J. Conrad Williams Jr / March 28, 2001) > soupcan Jan 15 2009 08:09 AM Amazing how much Jeff looks like his dad used to. Even down to the bad hairdo. ="metirish"] Edgy DC Jan 15 2009 08:10 AM Car Fire Day: Best. Promotion. Ever. HahnSolo Jan 15 2009 08:36 AM I miss crazy old Uncle Nelson. soupcan Jan 15 2009 08:39 AM Pop Quiz - without looking it up, how much did Nelson & Jeff pay for the Mets in 1980. If I remember right, I think it was $20 million. Farmer Ted Jan 15 2009 08:45 AM I only recall $350 million or so to finally kick Doubleday to the curb in '02. Edgy DC Jan 15 2009 09:02 AM Who pitched on Car Fire Day? metirish Jan 15 2009 09:07 AM ="Edgy DC":kdd41i0v]Who pitched on Car Fire Day?[/quote:kdd41i0v] I remember that game , I should say I remember it from watching it on TV and the announcers talking about the fire in the parking lot and showing it. I'll guess that Steve Trachsel pitched . John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 15 2009 09:14 AM ="soupcan":sgwypaic]Pop Quiz - without looking it up, how much did Nelson & Jeff pay for the Mets in 1980. If I remember right, I think it was $20 million.[/quote:sgwypaic] For some reason $21 million is the number I remember but geez. Edgy DC Jan 15 2009 09:14 AM Pedro Pistacio took a no-hiiter into the seventh the day after a crisp one-hitter by Testes. It was game two of a three-game sweep over Milwaukee and, for a minute there, it looked like the 2002 Mets had scrapped together a winning rotation of Leiter-Estes-Astacio-D'Amico-Trachsel. That plan blew up in the parking lot like so many SUVs. Edgy DC Jan 15 2009 09:15 AM Is that logo stitched together? It acually looks like a giant shoulder patch. soupcan Jan 15 2009 09:16 AM D'Amico. I had high hopes for him. soupcan Jan 15 2009 09:17 AM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":esm8z809]For some reason $21 million is the number I remember but geez.[/quote:esm8z809] I think you're right. dgwphotography Jan 15 2009 11:19 AM ="batmagadanleadoff"] ="soupcan"] That neon batter just reminded me of Gary Carter' follow through, particularly the way Gary would take an inside pitch and line drive one-bounce it to the outfielder for a single. Are there any other Mets that the neon hitter resembles? flip it around, and it's Mex. attgig Jan 15 2009 12:16 PM ="metirish"] Fans rush onto the field and players celebrate after the Mets defeated the Baltimore Orioles to win the 1969 World Series. (AP Photo / October 16, 1969 > i wonder if that will ever be allowed in pro sports. when did that stop? it's only on college that you see fans rushing the field. why is that? Edgy DC Jan 15 2009 12:19 PM Because student athletes don't need/demand protection from the masses the way millionnaire atheletes do. Why is the cop screening home plate doing the time warp? metirish Jan 15 2009 12:23 PM How about the guy down the RF line jumping from the stands? Benjamin Grimm Jan 15 2009 12:23 PM I think it stopped in 1986, at least in New York. The fans rushed the field after the division clincher, but the mounted cops prevented it in the World Series. I think, though, that the Phillies had the cops on horseback for the 1980 World Series. John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 17 2009 12:20 PM I went out there this morning, photos on facebook. Here's a vid shot as the 7 train arrives in Willets Pt. metirish Jan 17 2009 01:59 PM Great pictures btw. soupcan Jan 18 2009 01:53 PM These are from baseballfever... Kong76 Jan 18 2009 02:08 PM Even dollar cost averaging down to ~ 7 1/2, that sums up my Citigroup stock feelings. I've been somewhat unaffected by most of the images, but this one is particularly eerie to me: Kong76 Jan 18 2009 02:10 PM I know the home opener is late this year, but are they really gonna have the ol' girl completely gone by then and a parking lot installed? I thought they'd be more far along. Benjamin Grimm Jan 18 2009 03:30 PM I'm not sure they have to. The existing parking lot served Shea for the last few years, and Shea held more fans than Citi will. Kong76 Jan 18 2009 03:37 PM I don't mean they have to, I just thought that was the plan. Since groundbreaking, parking there has been a pain in the neck and I took the train mostly to games. I like to tailgate, plan on doing it a lot this year, and it's easier to do with a car. John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 18 2009 04:26 PM ="Kong76":3gm6qt5k]I know the home opener is late this year, but are they really gonna have the ol' girl completely gone by then and a parking lot installed? I thought they'd be more far along.[/quote:3gm6qt5k] Official plan is the last bits of Shea are to be disappeared by June 30. Those photos put mine to shame! metirish Jan 23 2009 02:23 PM Vince Coleman Firecracker Jan 23 2009 02:43 PM An auto body shop in a Quonset hut. Fantastic. Willets Point Jan 23 2009 02:44 PM I've got dibs on "City * Field * Collision" as my band's name. Frayed Knot Jan 24 2009 11:28 AM The ends of the horseshoe are starting to disappear http://www.wfan.com/pages/3706726.php?imageGalleryXRefId=907755#imgXR http://www.wfan.com/pages/3706726.php?imageGalleryXRefId=907756#imgXR G-Fafif Jan 24 2009 11:53 AM It's a stump, but it's our stump. dgwphotography Jan 24 2009 01:07 PM soupcan Jan 26 2009 12:33 PM More at stadiumpage.com Frayed Knot Jan 26 2009 12:56 PM btw, Harvey Araton tees off the Yanx in a piece in Sunday's NYTimes. Specifically it's the sweet time they're taking in getting rid of the old park even though the new one is nearly finished and that the whole deal was based on trading stadium space for park land, park land that now seems destined for 2011 at the earliest. Their answer as to when they'll get around to even starting deconstruction is essentially "when we fuckin' get around to it - now go away and stop bothering us", even as they had no problem making a public spectacle about marching their offices across to the new digs the street last week. "Mayor Bloomberg, tear down this stadium" metirish Jan 26 2009 01:16 PM The arrogance of all involved is sickening , how I despise all things Yankees. SteveJRogers Jan 26 2009 02:14 PM Supposedly they are going to use YSII for a movie production, plus the plan was that either the Mets or Yankees would use YSII to play games if either Citi Field or YSIII weren't ready come April. So despite the arrogance, there really are valid reasons why it is still up. Frayed Knot Jan 26 2009 02:36 PM Even if using YSII was the on-paper 'just-in-case' backup plan in the event that some wild mishap went on with the construction of either of the new stadiums the virtually ZERO chance such a plan would ever be put into place has now shrunk to roughly that of the Lions being put into next week's Super Bowl were a case of bubonic plague to sweep through either the Steeler or Cardinal camp. And, as the article mentions, they've yet to even select a company that would do the deconstruction or set a date as to when it might start. So the reason it's not only still up but will be so for at least another year has everything to do with the fact that they haven't finished milking the old girl for every cent she's worth and if that means that the city that just re-re-issued more tax-free bonds as the price climbed over a billion dollars and the local kids in the neighborhood they claim to care so much for (whenever they weren't threatening to leave that is) go without a public park for the next few years well then that's none of their damn business. metirish Jan 28 2009 08:10 PM New York Times ] In Dead of Winter, Shea Stadium Is Melting Away By KEN BELSON Published: January 28, 2009 With each passing day, Shea Stadium, the home of the Mets since 1964, fades further from Citi Field, the team�s new home. In the last few weeks, demolition crews have been ripping down entire sections of Shea from both ends of the outfield decks toward its middle. What was once a semi-enclosed bowl with 57,000 seats is now a skeleton of a grandstand. In the first weeks after the Mets finished their final season at Shea (with another desultory loss that knocked them out of playoff contention), crews removed the seats, signs and anything else that could be sold to collectors or reused in city parks. Then demolition crews started knocking out the field level and the concrete decks that made up the loge and the mezzanine. But the structure of the stadium, built for nearly $30 million, was largely intact. Not so anymore. Since the beginning of the year, crews have clawed away at Shea�s walls and beams, exposing escalators, elevator banks and air ducts. The stands above Gates A and E have vanished and parts of the neon players that adorned the outside of the stadium are gone, too. Twelve sections of the upper deck still have their concrete floors, but the other sections that remain are outlined only by their steel beams. Unlike stadiums in other cities that have been imploded, Shea had to be taken down piece by piece because of building codes. The rat-a-tat-tat of the construction machinery drowned out the noise of the jets taking off from LaGuardia Airport. Tarps on chain link fences say �Almost Home,� a reference to the soon-to-be-opened Citi Field, but also the six-month process of erasing Shea. In all, nearly 10,000 tons of steel and another 2,500 tons of concrete will be pulled out of Shea. Some of the concrete will be ground up and reused as the base material for the parking lot that will be installed in its place. The lot will include space for 2,000 cars and signs marking where home plate and the pitcher�s mound once were. Team representatives said that the demolition will be completed some time in the coming weeks, which is not hard to imagine. On Wednesday, lines of dump trucks made their way onto what was once the outfield, weaving around piles of crumpled metal and concrete covered in snow. Several Web sites have sprung up that have chronicled the destruction of the place where Seaver once threw, Piazza once squatted and the Stork, George Theodore, once roamed. In a way, the sites are a testament to the morbid curiosity of Mets fans, who have endured many morbid Mets teams. �It�s interesting how they are doing it piece by piece,� said Eric Okurowski, a 31-year master�s candidate and a life-long Met fan from Babylon, N.Y., who runs stadiumpage.com. �Most old stadia are blown up and it takes just a few seconds. It�s pretty interesting seeing it come apart in pieces over the course of four months.� Okurowski and several other die-hard fans are organizing a final farewell at Shea at noon Saturday to share stories and take photographs of what is left of the ballpark. As Shea diminishes, Citi Field emerges. While less imposing than Shea, the new stadium, at least from the outside, has an elegance that Shea lacked. Instead of the lattice of concrete ramps that constituted Shea�s exterior, Citi Field is covered in brick and punctuated with arches and an entrance rotunda. Flood lights highlight the outside while klieg lights illuminate what is left of Shea. More Articles in Sports �A version of this article appeared in print on January 29, 2009, on page B18 of the New York edition. apmorris Jan 29 2009 04:58 PM ="metirish"]New York Times ] Okurowski and several other die-hard fans are organizing a final farewell at Shea at noon Saturday to share stories and take photographs of what is left of the ballpark. Anyone going? (bring a camera) metirish Jan 29 2009 05:28 PM People are going http://www.faithandfearinflushing.com/ G-Fafif Jan 30 2009 03:38 PM Damn, dirty apes... apmorris Jan 30 2009 04:43 PM ="G-Fafif"]Damn, dirty apes... Awesomenessness Kong76 Jan 30 2009 07:24 PM Classic pic. dgwphotography Jan 31 2009 05:41 AM that's just brilliant. Benjamin Grimm Jan 31 2009 05:44 AM That really is brilliant. metirish Jan 31 2009 05:47 AM Yeah it's very clever. themetfairy Jan 31 2009 06:19 AM It's just a model.... batmagadanleadoff Jan 31 2009 04:06 PM I'm guessing that the picture has something to do with the Statue Liberty finale in Planet of.... But that picture never came up on my browser. Not today. Not yesterday. Benjamin Grimm Jan 31 2009 04:14 PM Me neither. I had to right click, select "Copy Location" and paste the following in my browser: http://faithandfear.blogharbor.com/_photos/heston.jpg Edgy DC Feb 02 2009 07:05 AM You MANIACS! soupcan Feb 05 2009 07:11 AM From stadiumpage.com Just a matter of time now.... Benjamin Grimm Feb 05 2009 08:06 AM It's starting to look more like the grandstand you'd see at a race track. Frayed Knot Feb 05 2009 08:11 AM Never can say goodbye No no no no, I Never can say goodbye Even though the pain and heartache Seems to follow me wherever I go Though I try and try to hide my feelings They always seem to show Then you try to say you're leaving me And I always have to say no... Tell me why Is it so That I ... Never can say goodbye No no no no, I Never can say goodbye Evertime I think I had enough I start heading for the door There's a very strange vibration That pierces me right to the core It says turn around you fool You know you love her more and more Tell me why Is it so Don't wanna let yo go I never can say goodbye soupcan Feb 06 2009 10:55 AM These are from wcbs880.com. And there are a few more there as well. G-Fafif Feb 08 2009 03:10 PM Shea among the ruins... Kong76 Feb 08 2009 03:47 PM I called KB over and asked if she wanted to see an eerie picture on my laptop and she saw this and started bawling. "That's all that's left? When was that picture taken?" "Uh, I guess last time it snowed." ... (I'm obnoxious in real life too) and I told her this is like a 25 page thread of the destruction of Shea and we started talking about our Moms and games and tailgates and she got me all throaty too and crying and screw you all but ok I admit that it's hard to see the old thing disappear and I've been suppressing the sadness. There, I said it. dgwphotography Feb 09 2009 07:41 AM the first time we go there this year will be a shock. Edgy DC Feb 09 2009 07:50 AM We should go and have a tribute concert in the parking lot. G-Fafif Feb 09 2009 10:37 AM ="Kong76":1akaid2f]I called KB over and asked if she wanted to see an eerie picture on my laptop and she saw this and started bawling.[/quote:1akaid2f] My wife, who worked downtown throughout the fall of 2001, invoked Ground Zero in terms of what it reminded her of looking at. soupcan Feb 13 2009 10:09 AM Another from baseballfever.com metirish Feb 13 2009 10:27 AM Great pictures over there...taken this morning from the #7 train Benjamin Grimm Feb 13 2009 10:48 AM They should leave that last chunk in place. smg58 Feb 13 2009 12:34 PM I drove past it the other day. It's really sad to see it. soupcan Feb 14 2009 07:21 AM I'm at LaGuardia waiting for a flight. Drove past Citi and Shea. Shea looks so sad and insignificant. I'm excited and wistful at the same time. cooby Feb 14 2009 08:22 AM Please, check for ice and geese. Not joking. soupcan Feb 14 2009 08:38 AM We're flying Continental - what could go wrong? dgwphotography Feb 14 2009 09:44 AM ="metirish"] It's fitting that that's the last piece left... Frayed Knot Feb 14 2009 09:49 AM Think of it as an image of Koosman throwing the final pitch of the '69 WS. It could be Orosco/'86 too but it looks more like Koosman. dgwphotography Feb 14 2009 09:51 AM hmmmm.... I always saw Matlack in that image... dgwphotography Feb 14 2009 09:57 AM ="Iubitul"]hmmmm.... I always saw Matlack in that image... Actually, no. Bob Ojeda. SteveJRogers Feb 14 2009 11:49 AM ="Iubitul"] ="Iubitul"]hmmmm.... I always saw Matlack in that image... Actually, no. Bob Ojeda. What is that watermark on the other side of the card top? A Boy Named Seo Feb 14 2009 11:58 AM ="metirish"]Great pictures over there...taken this morning from the #7 train Nice pic, Irish. Poor, little Shea getting swallowed up by Citi on both sides. Kong76 Feb 15 2009 01:46 PM We took a ride out there today. We packed up a camera, a couple of Heineken keg cans (KB drove) and set out. I was kind of emotional getting ready but by the time we were in the car and on our way I was kinda excited. There were a bunch of people milling about doing the same thing we were and while I didn't talk to anyone we all smiled and nodded to each other like we got it. What we really should have done was cooked a few hot dogs one more time but the beer was enough I guess to count as a tailgate of sorts. The pictures posted all over the internet get redundant after awhile I suppose, but I got a few unique images. metirish Feb 15 2009 02:20 PM Great pictures , thanks. themetfairy Feb 15 2009 03:08 PM Nice shots Kase! LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Feb 15 2009 05:20 PM Thanks, sir. Beautiful and gut-wrenching. (All in all, this offseason's been like a months-long wake... except one where the guests take parts of the deceased with them as souvenirs.) A Boy Named Seo Feb 15 2009 05:30 PM Great shots, man. Love the one of you raising your can of Heiny in salutation. holychicken Feb 15 2009 05:49 PM Whoa, crazy, KC. I was there today too and took some very similar pictures. I was the jackass with my little brown dog off the leash. He was very happy to be out running about like that. Edgy DC Feb 15 2009 06:01 PM Should have a concert out there. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Feb 15 2009 06:05 PM Or an Irish wake? -Loading up on Jameson fifths/Cueing up "Body of an American" on the iPods. Kong76 Feb 15 2009 06:13 PM holyc: I was the jackass with my little brown dog off the leash <<< I didn't see any little brown pups running about. It's funny, but I really thought I'd run into at least one Mets' fan I knew out there. Running into you woulda been cool and we coulda done a Heiny. holychicken Feb 15 2009 07:42 PM Yeah, I figured there would be no one there but the when I saw the number of people there I figured I would see someone I knew. I checked everyone saw there, but didn't recognize anyone as well. I figured my dog would have stuck out tho more than me DocTee Feb 15 2009 08:27 PM Cool pics, thanks for sharing them. Did you pour some of that Heiny on the ground, ghetto style, to remember Shea, your fallen friend? Kong76 Feb 16 2009 01:11 PM Tee: Did you pour some of that Heiny on the ground <<< I have to confess that I did deposit some used Heiny behind some construction materials. Edgy DC Feb 16 2009 01:13 PM I'm going to guess you haven't puked at Shea since October 12, 1982. Kong76 Feb 16 2009 06:24 PM I had to google the date but I didn't yak that night. John Cougar Lunchbucket Feb 17 2009 09:25 AM Nice shotz guys. ah, screw it. Zvon Feb 17 2009 12:28 PM ="SteveJRogers"] ="Iubitul"] ="Iubitul"]hmmmm.... I always saw Matlack in that image... Actually, no. Bob Ojeda. What is that watermark on the other side of the card top? That's the Desert Storm logo/thing they added to sets of cards for the troops overseas back in the day. themetfairy Feb 17 2009 02:00 PM Zvon! How have you been? attgig Feb 17 2009 03:53 PM http://twitpic.com/photos/bluenautica one last piece remaining. Frayed Knot Feb 18 2009 11:14 AM Last piece down (video available via Newsday's main sports page) It's all over but the sweeping. soupcan Feb 24 2009 08:02 AM These I guess are almost a week old. From http://www.stadiumpage.com Edgy DC Feb 24 2009 08:14 AM To heck with your copyright, Gary. soupcan Feb 24 2009 08:32 AM 'Zactly. Zvon Feb 24 2009 02:38 PM ="Edgy DC":33njl1ow]To heck with your copyright, Gary.[/quote:33njl1ow] I'll photoshop that out. Shhhh. holychicken Feb 24 2009 03:59 PM ="Zvon":13ygrx4a] ="Edgy DC":13ygrx4a]To heck with your copyright, Gary.[/quote:13ygrx4a] I'll photoshop that out. Shhhh.[/quote:13ygrx4a] Simple crop job ought to do. Edgy DC Mar 16 2009 02:56 PM Mini-Shea ripped up from the ground. http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/03/16/you-too-can-own-a-piece-of-the-mini-city/ Farmer Ted Mar 16 2009 03:14 PM They couldn't save those two satellite dishes? Coulda saved me a few bucks with DirecTV.

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="SteveJRogers":2b4tvqa5] ="batmagadanleadoff":2b4tvqa5]Franco debuted as a Met in 1990. Why would he wear an '86 jersey? Do you think that the actual '86 Mets would want this? This makes no sense.[/quote:2b4tvqa5] 1986 style, eh save for the change in pullover to button down and stitched on lettering instead of a nameplate for the NOB [/quote:2b4tvqa5] You forgot the anniversary patch the 86 Mets wore. That's what mainly distinguished the 86 uni from the 90 uni. You're right about the stitched on lettering, though. If you wanna get hyper technical, the 1990 unis had the Rawlings logo on the right sleeve. The 86 unis had no Mfr. logo on the sleeves. Frayed Knot Sep 30 2008 08:43 PM The more I read this board the more I realize that virtually everyone knows and cares about uniforms A LOT more than I do. SteveJRogers Sep 30 2008 08:48 PM ="seawolf17":19bd7ajf]What "pure 90s" Mets would you have wanted there? Bonilla? Jeff Kent? Vince Coleman? Those teams kinda sucked. Maybe Bernard Gilkey or Charlie O would have been cool. I'd vote for Pete Harnisch, but that's just my personal bias.[/quote:19bd7ajf] Hmmm, not saying I'd want them there, just saying it is odd to see Franco as a representative of the 1998-2001 Mets with Piazza, Zeile, Leiter, Ventura and Alfonzo. Granted he was there, and was the "captain" but I prefer remembering Franco with his # 31 jersey during the "Worst Team Money Can Buy" era. Put it this way, it would be exactly like seeing Kranepool in a replica of his 1979 home jersey out there. Just doesn't seem right even though he was there. SteveJRogers Sep 30 2008 08:52 PM ="batmagadanleadoff":3fgsp7nc] ="SteveJRogers":3fgsp7nc] ="batmagadanleadoff":3fgsp7nc]Franco debuted as a Met in 1990. Why would he wear an '86 jersey? Do you think that the actual '86 Mets would want this? This makes no sense.[/quote:3fgsp7nc] 1986 style, eh save for the change in pullover to button down and stitched on lettering instead of a nameplate for the NOB [/quote:3fgsp7nc] You forgot the anniversary patch the 86 Mets wore. That's what mainly distinguished the 86 uni from the 90 uni. You're right about the stitched on lettering, though. If you wanna get hyper technical, the 1990 unis had the Rawlings logo on the right sleeve. The 86 unis had no Mfr. logo on the sleeves.[/quote:3fgsp7nc] I didn't notice that the versions of the unis the 86ers were wearing out there had the actual 1986 jersey patch. Course they could have been wearing what they got (except for Doc of course) back in 2006, but the point was more the same style THAT the 1986ers were wearing at the ceremony. Not an actual 1986 Franco # 31 jersey that obviously only would be a Cincy Red jersey! batmagadanleadoff Sep 30 2008 08:57 PM The 86 Mets had the anniversary patch, and what appears to be a Majestic Mfr. Logo. The real 86 unis were manufactured by Rawlings; the sleeves were logoless. Mitchell & Ness made the flannelly '60's unis for Shea Goodbye. Apparently, more than one mfr. was involved in producing the various retro jerseys. AG/DC Sep 30 2008 09:21 PM Pure 90s Mets I salute: Rico Brogna Eddie Murray Todd Hundley, I guess Jose Vizcaino Jeff Kent Mlicki Manzanillo Yoshii While I'm in Japan, I salute Takashi Kashiwada, the man who opened Asia to the Mets. Know who'd be a cool invite (and maybe the Countdown Like It Oughta Be thought of this)? Steve Chilcott. themetfairy Oct 01 2008 02:24 AM Here are some pictures from Ralph Kiner Night (July 14, 2007). The view of Citi Field from the Shea tunnel near Gate E - Fans arriving from the subway - Citi Field rising behind Shea - themetfairy Oct 01 2008 02:27 AM Between the old and the new, before the September 14, 2008 Mr. Met Dash - themetfairy Oct 01 2008 06:07 AM This is an old photo. How old? Pre-MiniKnight old - the kid in the backpack is his older brother, who is now significantly taller than I am, and the little girl is now off to college. Oh, and that's me in the middle. In 1994 the Mets entered into a deal that included the installation of Nickelodeon's Extreme Baseball at Shea mini theme park just beyond right field. Living in the City with a 4-year-old and a toddler, ya gotta believe we made a lot of trips to that park. We were there for its opening, due to D-Dad's business connections, playing in the theme park along with some of the Mets who checked it out before that night's game (the only mar in that incredibly fun evening was the news that Dwight Gooden had entered rehab for the second time). When our planned baseball birthday party for our daughter at Shea (yes - there was a time in her life when she was actually into that kind of thing and didn't wince at the thought of baseball) was unworkable due to the strike, we amended the plan and had her party at the Nickelodeon park (for those of you who remember what Nickelodeon was into back then, you'll be amused to know that I was slimed. Slime is kind of like green vanilla pudding with an odd consistency...). This picture, though, was taken at a more routine time. We were at the park one afternoon (possibly 4th of July) and took a tour of Shea that included the clubhouse and the field. The kids and I sat in the Mets dugout while D-Dad took this picture. I generally hate having my picture taken, but this was an occasion that was worthy of an exception - themetfairy Oct 01 2008 06:12 AM This is a picture that iubitul took. D-Dad, a couple of friends and I had just completed the Run to Home Plate. We're in the Shea outfield, and the picture was taken above from the Picnic Area - (Psst - iubitul - did you ever scan the other photos from that day? There are a couple that would be fun to post if you did). G-Fafif Oct 01 2008 06:19 AM Not a photo-related comment but regarding invitees, Todd Hundley did receive a shoutout from Howie Rose when he ran down the list of those who couldn't be with us today. I was struck that the mostly dismal 1991-1996 Mets were represented by John Franco and nobody else, essentially. HoJo, Sid and Doc played on those teams, but aren't associated with them. Fonzie came up in '95, but he is a part of the postseason teams that came later in the mind's eye. So is Franco, I guess. Only because they went to the trouble of tracking down Doug Flynn, Craig Swan and John Stearns (and Mazzilli, I suppose, though he has '86 bona fides), did I get a little hung up on there not being a Rico Brogna (good fit, I hear), a Lance Johnson, or, as suggested, the Anthony Young. themetfairy Oct 01 2008 06:19 AM MK hanging out with some friends during a Mets Fan Club for Kids clinic. I think this was in 2005 - themetfairy Oct 01 2008 06:39 AM On the day I bought my good camera, I took this shot of David Wright connecting for a homer - Time will tell whether this was beginner's luck, but I'm happy with the shot. Benjamin Grimm Oct 01 2008 07:19 AM ="G-Fafif":2bw2zl3t]Not a photo-related comment but regarding invitees, Todd Hundley did receive a shoutout from Howie Rose when he ran down the list of those who couldn't be with us today. I was struck that the mostly dismal 1991-1996 Mets were represented by John Franco and nobody else, essentially. HoJo, Sid and Doc played on those teams, but aren't associated with them. Fonzie came up in '95, but he is a part of the postseason teams that came later in the mind's eye. So is Franco, I guess. Only because they went to the trouble of tracking down Doug Flynn, Craig Swan and John Stearns (and Mazzilli, I suppose, though he has '86 bona fides), did I get a little hung up on there not being a Rico Brogna (good fit, I hear), a Lance Johnson, or, as suggested, the Anthony Young.[/quote:2bw2zl3t] I was thinking along similar lines this morning in the car. There weren't many players present whose careers were strictly in the lean years and the in-between years. There were a few guys from the 1960's, like Frank Thomas, and 70's guys like Flynn, Swan, Stearns, and Kingman, but overall, very few of the returnees were guys who didn't appear in a World Series for the Mets. batmagadanleadoff Oct 01 2008 09:50 AM ="G-Fafif":1bl0kw4g]Only because they went to the trouble of tracking down Doug Flynn, Craig Swan and John Stearns (and Mazzilli, I suppose, though he has '86 bona fides), did I get a little hung up on there not being a Rico Brogna (good fit, I hear), a Lance Johnson, or, as suggested, the Anthony Young.[/quote:1bl0kw4g] Though I would've liked to see Anthony Young walk onto the Shea field last Sunday, as I already mentioned, I did not reasonably expect to see him. Until George Theodore was announced. Once The Stork was delivered, I thought that anything was possible and that everyone was in play. But not Bobby Bonilla. G-Fafif Oct 01 2008 10:05 AM ="batmagadanleadoff":36rnfjz9] ="G-Fafif":36rnfjz9]Only because they went to the trouble of tracking down Doug Flynn, Craig Swan and John Stearns (and Mazzilli, I suppose, though he has '86 bona fides), did I get a little hung up on there not being a Rico Brogna (good fit, I hear), a Lance Johnson, or, as suggested, the Anthony Young.[/quote:36rnfjz9] Though I would've liked to see Anthony Young walk onto the Shea field last Sunday, as I already mentioned, I did not reasonably expect to see him. Until George Theodore was announced. Once The Stork was delivered, I thought that anything was possible and that everyone was in play. But not Bobby Bonilla.[/quote:36rnfjz9] Shea Amnesty could have been the theme and everybody but Vince Coleman could have been welcomed and absolved. I could have applauded Bonilla. I could have applauded Alomar. I could have applauded Hebner just for old times' sake. I think, if sufficiently intoxicated, I could have applauded Glavine. But not Vince Coleman. A.Y., however, needed no amnesty. He was always treated well amid the disaster that went down around him. It would have been a classy Storklike move. themetfairy Oct 01 2008 02:26 PM MiniKnight's first game at Shea - I love how D-Dad caught Mr. Met's pixelated image smiling and waving on the scoreboard in the background. metsguyinmichigan Oct 01 2008 08:40 PM That's Mr. Met bestowing his blessing! Awesome shot! themetfairy Oct 01 2008 09:01 PM D-Dad says thanks soupcan Oct 02 2008 08:58 AM Not a Shea photo per se but still... I was looking through a box of crap in my attic and came across a Mets scorecard from 1985. I thought 'how cool would it be if this was from opening day and I actually scored it?'. I opened it up and guess what - it was and I did. Surprising to me because that opener I drove down from Syracuse with about 6-7 fraternity brothers and sat in the bitter cold of the upper deck. I'm sure I was drunk and my hands were frozen. In those days though I did score pretty much every game I went to. I checked UMDB against my log and I didn't do a half-bad job... Heep appears in the boxscore but not on my card, until you look closer - In the 7th it appears Heep was announced but I suppose Whitey replaced Campbell with Hassler for the lefty/righty thing so John Christensen took the AB. You can see that I wrote Heep's name but then crossed it out. Why was Davey PH-ing Heep for Straw though? Game was tied 5-5 men on first and second 2 out. What am I not seeing or remembering? Also - Note that Staub pinch-hit in the 9th and Darling ran for him. John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 02 2008 09:10 AM Holy shit, nice handwriting. Are you an architect? soupcan Oct 02 2008 09:11 AM Oh gosh really? Thanks. Its usually much neater, I was kind of embarassed to post it because I thought it was pretty sloppy. Not an architect but an illustrator in a previous life. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 09:13 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 02 2008 09:15 AM Strawberry opened the 1985 season hurt. His opening day start was in question and he did not play at all in the Mets next game. He missed a significant amount of playing time in 1985 to injuries. May I ask what frat you belonged to? Centerfield Oct 02 2008 09:13 AM ="themetfairy"]MiniKnight's first game at Shea - I love how D-Dad caught Mr. Met's pixelated image smiling and waving on the scoreboard in the background. That's amazing. MK already looks like himself. Not sure if that made any sense. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 09:17 AM How come my post above displays a "last edited" note even though this is the very next post? soupcan Oct 02 2008 09:19 AM ="batmagadanleadoff"]May I ask what frat you belonged to? Thanks for the Strawberry answer. HahnSolo Oct 02 2008 09:21 AM ="soupcan":3uc7yjo2] In those days though I did score pretty much every game I went to.[/quote:3uc7yjo2] You scored in the Shea upper deck? I should hang out at more games with you. metirish Oct 02 2008 09:24 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 02 2008 09:25 AM Brilliant posts from metfairy and soup...MF , the Mets cap looks over sized....what happened? Great score card soup , I scored my first game ever this season, in the second to last row up top behind home plate. It didn't look anything like yours though... soupcan Oct 02 2008 09:24 AM ="HahnSolo":2y3lkhxq]You scored in the Shea upper deck? I should hang out at more games with you.[/quote:2y3lkhxq] It was a looooong time ago. Its in me but its been hibernating for a while. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 09:29 AM ="soupcan":3jnfvsp6]Thanks for the Strawberry answer.[/quote:3jnfvsp6] That's on Comstock, with a lot of other frat houses, right? Did you see my Sherman Douglas post[/url:3jnfvsp6] from a few days ago? soupcan Oct 02 2008 09:32 AM Yup. 721 Comstock to be exact. I did see the Douglas post, you were right. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 09:33 AM Back on topic. Frayed Knot Oct 02 2008 09:34 AM ="batmagadanleadoff"]Strawberry opened the 1985 season hurt. His opening day start was in question and he did not play at all in the Mets next game. He missed a significant amount of playing time in 1985 to injuries. Most of his missed time was on account of when he rolled over on his thumb making a catch in a game I was at - in mid-May I think it was. ]How come my post above displays a "last edited" note even though this is the very next post? All that means is that you edited something in that post after the thread was active again. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 09:39 AM ="Frayed Knot":nd2dud0e] ="batmagadanleadoff":nd2dud0e]Strawberry opened the 1985 season hurt. His opening day start was in question and he did not play at all in the Mets next game. He missed a significant amount of playing time in 1985 to injuries.[/quote:nd2dud0e] Most of his missed time was on account of when he rolled over on his thumb making a catch in a game I was at - in mid-May I think it was. [/quote:nd2dud0e] You're right. But he opened the season with a nagging injury as well. I have the video of that complete game. I'll try and find it but it may take me a while, because I haven't converted that tape to disc. My old VHS's are a disorganized mess. dgwphotography Oct 02 2008 09:43 AM Soup - that's great stuff. I was sitting down underneath in the loge that day. Freaking Hernandez - strikes out in a big spot leading off the top of the 10th. So unclutch. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 09:49 AM ="Frayed Knot":itaev3d1]All that means is that you edited something in that post after the thread was active again.[/quote:itaev3d1] What do you mean by "thread was active again"? Based on experience, I thought that the "last edited" notation was activated only if the post was edited after someone else posted a subsequent message. soupcan Oct 02 2008 09:55 AM ="batmagadanleadoff":2of6od08]What do you mean by "thread was active again"? Based on experience, I thought that the "last edited" notation was activated only if the post was edited after someone else posted a subsequent message.[/quote:2of6od08] You edited at 11:15. CF posted at 11:13. OE: No, I'm wrong. That's weird. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 10:01 AM ="soupcan":3pdd5j9f] ="batmagadanleadoff":3pdd5j9f]What do you mean by "thread was active again"? Based on experience, I thought that the "last edited" notation was activated only if the post was edited after someone else posted a subsequent message.[/quote:3pdd5j9f] You edited at 11:15. CF posted at 11:13[/quote:3pdd5j9f] I dunno about that. When I originally posted that message, it appeared after CF's post. Why would my subsequent minute later edit appear based on an unedited post showing prior to my post, and thus, prior to my edit? batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 10:02 AM ="soupcan":2yeh8i49]OE: No, I'm wrong. That's weird.[/quote:2yeh8i49] Now you get it. themetfairy Oct 02 2008 10:38 AM ="Centerfield"] ="themetfairy"]MiniKnight's first game at Shea - I love how D-Dad caught Mr. Met's pixelated image smiling and waving on the scoreboard in the background. That's amazing. MK already looks like himself. Not sure if that made any sense. It makes sense. He's recognizable, even at three weeks old. Irish - I'm not sure what was up with the hat. That soon after a C-section I thought I was doing well getting dressed at all seawolf17 Oct 02 2008 12:03 PM Actually, as long as the message has been read at least once, then it gets the "edited" tag. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 02:26 PM ="seawolf17":neearbs2]Actually, as long as the message has been read at least once, then it gets the "edited" tag.[/quote:neearbs2] I'm not convinced because I know for sure that on occasion, I have edited some of my messages as much as a day after posting them. So long as my message in question was always the last one in the thread, the "last edited" note was never triggered. I know that others read the post after it was posted but prior to my edit based on the page view count. So based on my personal use, merely reading a post wouldn't be enough to trigger the edited notation if that post was ever to be edited. AG/DC Oct 02 2008 02:31 PM How about if somebody else had already hit the response button, even if they hadn't submitted? Frayed Knot Oct 02 2008 02:34 PM I think the mods should just confess that they're monitoring all of BatMags movements and activities. Nothing personal mind you, just be careful what you say in the bathroom. You never know who's listening. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 02:47 PM ="Frayed Knot":1klmkujp]I think the mods should just confess that they're monitoring all of BatMags movements and activities. Nothing personal mind you, just be careful what you say in the bathroom. You never know who's listening.[/quote:1klmkujp] That's what I always thought. Do you know that my avatar disappeared mysteriously? And that the feature that would allow me to simply submit another avatar is missing from my control panel or whatever it's called? What do you make of that, huh? dgwphotography Oct 02 2008 02:55 PM I don't remember if I've posted this one before: Fireworks Night, July 3, 2006: soupcan Oct 02 2008 03:02 PM Wow. cooby Oct 02 2008 03:37 PM ="soupcan":1twkt7gk] In those days though I did score pretty much every game I went to.[/quote:1twkt7gk] HAHAHAH, I am sure though that by now somebody else has already beaten me to this line, I'll go back and look cooby Oct 02 2008 03:40 PM Yep! themetfairy Oct 02 2008 03:50 PM ="Iubitul":2bej8qlv]I don't remember if I've posted this one before: Fireworks Night, July 3, 2006: [/quote:2bej8qlv] Whether it's a rerun or not, it's gorgeous. soupcan Oct 02 2008 04:48 PM ="cooby":1hpi6tfp] ="soupcan":1hpi6tfp] In those days though I did score pretty much every game I went to.[/quote:1hpi6tfp] HAHAHAH, I am sure though that by now somebody else has already beaten me to this line, I'll go back and look[/quote:1hpi6tfp] DOH! I didn't realize HahnSolo was taking the piss! I'm a moron. metsguyinmichigan Oct 02 2008 07:27 PM ="themetfairy":2i6sr6pi] ="Iubitul":2i6sr6pi]I don't remember if I've posted this one before: Fireworks Night, July 3, 2006: [/quote:2i6sr6pi] Whether it's a rerun or not, it's gorgeous.[/quote:2i6sr6pi] Clearly you're too good at this for it to just be a hobby. Are you a professional? I'm just in awe. I snapped shots of some of the same small details that you did -- like the little NYs in the grates around the trees -- yet you picked a really cool, unconventional angle to shoot it. Beautiful and creative. dgwphotography Oct 03 2008 12:32 AM ="metsguyinmichigan"] Clearly you're too good at this for it to just be a hobby. Are you a professional? I'm just in awe. I snapped shots of some of the same small details that you did -- like the little NYs in the grates around the trees -- yet you picked a really cool, unconventional angle to shoot it. Beautiful and creative. Thanks metsguy. I'm not a professional, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night... Seriously, it's a hobby - I'm a web developer by trade. But, it's also a passion that centers me. I can have a completely lousy day at work, but if I get to spend 15 productive minutes behind my camera, I'm completely relaxed and centered... Here's a couple of oldies. Please ignore the quality - my film scanner isn't working, so I had to scan the prints on a flatbed... July 4, 1986 - Nolan Ryan pitching to Gary Carter: September 18, 1986 - The best part of this pic is Backman's expression. Hungover much? John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 03 2008 05:46 AM Just look how much better those old shots look without Keyspan signs, giant dunkin donuts cups, too-dark blue paint, etc etc. This thread is going to make me dig out what I can find, but I'll start with this classikc: batmagadanleadoff Oct 03 2008 08:24 AM ="Iubitul":1jek1hyd]I don't remember if I've posted this one before: Fireworks Night, July 3, 2006: [/quote:1jek1hyd] I was surprised to read that you're not a pro. Professional is the first word that came to my mind when I saw this beautiful picture of Shea with the fireworks. Where were you sitting (or standing) when you took the picture of Carter batting against Ryan? AG/DC Oct 03 2008 08:33 AM If I remember him describing that photo last year, he put his camera down, satisfied he got the shot he wanted, and noticed the Mets team photographer right next to him going for the same shot. seawolf17 Oct 03 2008 08:34 AM Lost in that shot is the kid in the Wright shirt, bottom right corner, watching the fireworks. A nice touch. dgwphotography Oct 03 2008 11:56 AM ="batmagadanleadoff":2duv67l2]Where were you sitting (or standing) when you took the picture of Carter batting against Ryan?[/quote:2duv67l2] Thanks :-) I was able to sneak down to the first row behind home plate - got a lot of good shots that were on KC's site. dgwphotography Oct 03 2008 12:04 PM ="AG/DC":1gfkczpr]If I remember him describing that photo last year, he put his camera down, satisfied he got the shot he wanted, and noticed the Mets team photographer right next to him going for the same shot.[/quote:1gfkczpr] That was the first time I shot the fireworks, back in 1990. They had a photo contest sponsored by Kodak every year - I had won in the memorabilia category in 1989, and had my picture in the 1990 yearbook. So, I had the idea to try and shoot the fireworks that July - that's when I ran into Marc Lavine. When the 1991 yearbook came, and I saw his fireworks shot on the cover, I knew there was no way that mine made it into the yearbook. There's a post script to that story: I ran into Marc again in 2006. I snuck around to behind home plate in loge to take pictures of Mike Pelfrey in his ML debut. Marc was standing in the walkway right next to me. A security guard came over and started giving Marc a hard time about standing there. I leaned over the railing and asked him, "What, doesn't he recognize you?" Gotta love the security at Shea. Kong76 Oct 03 2008 05:44 PM The old school stuff is still there if anyone wants to re-explore .... http://www.kcmets.com/DGWPhotography/photonew1.htm metsguyinmichigan Oct 03 2008 05:48 PM I love the wallpaper shot of Reyes as a B-Met! SteveJRogers Oct 03 2008 06:25 PM ="Iubitul":2lf7a8xg] They had a photo contest sponsored by Kodak every year - I had won in the memorabilia category in 1989, and had my picture in the 1990 yearbook.[/quote:2lf7a8xg] I'm shocked that a Nikonian like you would stoop so low as to enter a contest run by Kodak! = dgwphotography Oct 03 2008 06:43 PM ="SteveJRogers":38evkptp] ="Iubitul":38evkptp] They had a photo contest sponsored by Kodak every year - I had won in the memorabilia category in 1989, and had my picture in the 1990 yearbook.[/quote:38evkptp] I'm shocked that a Nikonian like you would stoop so low as to enter a contest run by Kodak! =[/quote:38evkptp] Film, Steve. Film. I loved Kodak 64 slide film. Actually, starting in 1995, Kodak offered the DCS460[/url:38evkptp]. It was a 6mp digital camera which used a Nikon N90s SLR for the body. soupcan Oct 03 2008 09:07 PM ="Iubitul":2hzt6uz2]That was the first time I shot the fireworks, back in 1990. They had a photo contest sponsored by Kodak every year - I had won in the memorabilia category in 1989, and had my picture in the 1990 yearbook. [/quote:2hzt6uz2] So I read this and flipped through my '90 yearbook - holy cow - is (was) all that stuff in the picture yours? G-Fafif Oct 04 2008 04:04 AM I ran back to the '90 yearbook as well and was quite impressed with the collection as well as the photograph. A copy of "Nails" even! I'll bet Lenny Dykstra never read it. dgwphotography Oct 04 2008 05:28 AM Thanks guys. Yes, all that stuff in the picture is mine, and that collection has only grown... Of course I have a copy of Nails, my wife was such a big Dykstra fan, she even, gulp, rooted for the Phillies for a while when he got traded... soupcan Oct 06 2008 07:57 AM Taken on Opening Day 1987... Notice that there are no neon players on Shea yet. Sorry about the quality - haven't figured out the best settings for photos on the scanner yet. metirish Oct 06 2008 08:06 AM Those are great pictures soup , maybe it's the contrast but it looks cold and bleak that day.Is that guy wearing a batting helmet? DocTee Oct 06 2008 08:07 AM If you hadn't told me those were from 1987, I'd ve guessed they were from a decade earlier (based on the vehicles in the parking lot). AG/DC Oct 06 2008 08:08 AM Old school. That's how Met fans roll. soupcan Oct 06 2008 08:15 AM ="metirish":1lvfa5e8]Those are great pictures soup , maybe it's the contrast but it looks cold and bleak that day.Is that guy wearing a batting helmet?[/quote:1lvfa5e8] Cold and bleak - yes. Batting helmet - yes. ="DocTee":1lvfa5e8]If you hadn't told me those were from 1987, I'd ve guessed they were from a decade earlier (based on the vehicles in the parking lot).[/quote:1lvfa5e8] I agree - isn't it funny how its always the cars in photos that give a person a sense of the age of the picture? ="AG/DC":1lvfa5e8]Old school. That's how Met fans roll.[/quote:1lvfa5e8] Damn skippy. soupcan Oct 06 2008 08:31 AM Notice no skyline on the scoreboard. Round cut-outs in foul territory on either side of the plate. Never knew what those were for until I watched a DVD of game 4 of the '69 Series. During player intros before the game, Cuellar was warming up in it, tossing from there. Can you see straw-hat, hand-rolling lady in the front row behind homeplate? That's before they added the additional VIP seats and effectively put her 10 or so rows back. What the heck's going on at second base? AG/DC Oct 06 2008 08:37 AM I like the life-size bendable plastic Keith Hernandez figure out there. Nothing says "dreary opening day" like Ralph Kiner walking alone through the shade in his raincoat. soupcan Oct 06 2008 09:06 AM You think that's Ralph? I was going to guess Cashen. metirish Oct 06 2008 09:07 AM I was thinking M. Donald Grant . soupcan Oct 06 2008 09:08 AM He was long gone by then. metirish Oct 06 2008 09:08 AM Of course he wasn't even with the mets then...never mind me. Actually I meant Nelson Doubleday but I'm still probably wrong. soupcan Oct 06 2008 09:23 AM That could be Nelson. I don't think his hair was completely white yet in '87. batmagadanleadoff Oct 06 2008 09:24 AM I think it's Cashen, though it's hard to tell. I don't think it's Kiner; that's not Ralph's way of walking. AG/DC Oct 06 2008 09:26 AM Funny, I think that's exactly what makes him look Kineriffic. Funnier still is that I doubt either of us has seen Kiner walk more than a handful of times, but we both have a distinctive impression. Among other reasons, I think it's Ralph because he appears to be coming from a press scrum. batmagadanleadoff Oct 06 2008 09:31 AM ="soupcan"]That could be Nelson. I don't think his hair was completely white yet in '87. Maybe not, but it was surely on its way. That was the first game back since Wilpon wrested away Nelson's controlling interest in the club. Straw and Keith went at each other that Spring. Doc was in Smithers and at age 22, would never be consistently great again. Backman's "forty fuckin' car crashes" was already proving prophetic figuratively, if not literally. John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 06 2008 09:41 AM I would guess Doubleday. themetfairy Oct 06 2008 09:50 AM A couple of pictures from the 1987 opener - Opening ceremonies - First Pitch - John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 06 2008 09:57 AM Check out skinny Barry soupcan Oct 06 2008 10:00 AM Nice ones Fairy. Apparently you had much better seats than me... AG/DC Oct 06 2008 10:00 AM I like the area around the apple hat, strewn with empty crates and lurking hoods. metirish Oct 06 2008 10:03 AM I like how metfairy's picture helps answer who the people out in center field are in the picture soup posted, kind of cool that two members can post similar pictures for the same opening day in 1987. Farmer Ted Oct 06 2008 10:09 AM Any photos of Banner Day in the archives? Those would a nice treat. themetfairy Oct 06 2008 10:11 AM ="soupcan":19xbemwi]Nice ones Fairy. Apparently you had much better seats than me...[/quote:19xbemwi] Thanks soup. I worked for a law firm in 1987. There were only two good things about the job. One was my office (Empire State Building, 49th Floor, southern view) and the other was that the firm had season tickets and one of the partners would occasionally offer two of the seats to D-Dad and me. themetfairy Oct 06 2008 11:23 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 06 2008 11:45 AM I went into the old photo albums to scan some pictures from 1994's Nickelodeon's Extreme Baseball at Shea experiment. These are from the VIP Opening Party on June 28, 1994. I have pictures of each of my kids at about age 2 with John Franco. This is the one with my older son - We wouldn't have wanted to try to wipe the smile off of Bobby Bo's face - Back in 1994, we had no reason to dislike Jose Vizcaino - themetfairy Oct 06 2008 11:25 AM July 4, 1994. I previously posted the picture of myself with the kids in the dugout. Here are some other photos from that day. From the stadium tour that we took that day - themetfairy Oct 06 2008 11:30 AM Those of you who know my daughter now will be shocked to hear that there was a time she actually rooted for the Mets. We planned to have her 5th birthday at a game at Shea, but the plans were changed on account of strike. We had the birthday at the Nickelodeon park instead. The birthday girl - Cute cake - If you remember Nickelodeon at the time, slime was a big thing. The birthday girl didn't want to be slimed herself, but wanted to slime her mom instead. Let it not be said that I've never done anything for that girl - metirish Oct 06 2008 11:41 AM Absolutely classic , the clothes the uniforms , the sunglasses , everything. We need a thread for classic Mets and Shea pictures like these. Benjamin Grimm Oct 06 2008 12:02 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 06 2008 12:04 PM .. Benjamin Grimm Oct 06 2008 12:03 PM I've been thinking of putting a Shea slideshow on the UMDB. I have a few pictures of my own of the "Shea experience" that I've taken over the last couple of years. Some with architectural details, some of fans crowding through the gates, etc. I've been meaning to ask for submissions of similar photos, and I guess this is as good a time and place as any to start. I'm more interested in "neutral" photos rather than those that feature smiling friends or family members. Some of the photos posted in this thread would be great for that. If anyone who's posted any photos objects to the pictures being used in this manner, please let me know. (I intend to specifically ask permission to use any of these before I actually do so.) A couple of weeks ago I created a prototype slide show. Take a peek if you like: http://www.leaptoad.com/mets/slidetest.php Some day there will be similar slideshows available to all visitors, and they'll have individual themes. Right now I'm slowly putting together one that will capture the events surrounding the final day at Shea Stadium. themetfairy Oct 06 2008 12:32 PM Nice slideshow BG. And I have no objection if you'd like to use any photo that I've posted on the UMDB metirish Oct 06 2008 12:34 PM I like the prototype, nice work. themetfairy Oct 06 2008 06:07 PM May 30, 1999 was a Beanie Babies giveaway day at Shea. I was writing for Mary Beth's Bean Bag World Magazine at the time, and i was able to get press credentials for the game. I was constantly expecting security to tap me on the shoulder and tell me that I didn't belong on the field, but they didn't. Here's my press pass - Diamond Vision - D-Dad took this shot of me from the Field Level - Olerud and the Shea Scoreboard - The Diamond Vision later, from the Upper Deck - Pictures of players to follow.... themetfairy Oct 06 2008 06:12 PM Most of the players were incredibly good sports about having their picture taken with the Beanie Baby du Jour. My big regret was not asking Bobby Valentine for a picture, A) because he would have; and it was a Valentina Beanie Baby. The only one who turned me down was Todd Pratt, but since he was signing autographs at the time I'll give him a pass on that. Rey Ordonez - Roger Cedeno (whose solo homer provided the Mets with their only run as they lost that day) - Edgardo Alfonzo - Mike Piazza (who not only posed for this picture, but graciously gave me a little blather quote for my article) - Benny Agbayani - Fman99 Oct 06 2008 08:08 PM Great pictures MetFairy. How awesome to see those guys being good sports. Man I loved that '99 squad. themetfairy Oct 06 2008 08:23 PM They were a great bunch, for sure. cooby Oct 06 2008 09:16 PM NICE seawolf17 Oct 07 2008 12:57 PM Funny photos. What a neat experience. themetfairy Oct 07 2008 01:41 PM Thanks. It was surreal, and very cool soupcan Oct 13 2008 07:27 AM No seats! AG/DC Oct 13 2008 07:44 AM Well, that one guy has a seat. I think we can take him. metsguyinmichigan Oct 13 2008 09:51 AM He's guarding the stop sign before the people from MeiGray come to pick it up for the auction. soupcan Oct 15 2008 08:46 PM Found these pictures in a thread at baseball fever... AG/DC Oct 15 2008 09:44 PM Agh. themetfairy Oct 16 2008 04:42 AM That one gave me a bad dream last night Benjamin Grimm Oct 16 2008 08:13 AM I found this one the most painful: metirish Oct 16 2008 08:14 AM Great pictures , thanks soup. AG/DC Oct 16 2008 08:24 AM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ut1H4o_ie8c metirish Oct 16 2008 08:50 AM Great song edgy , a blast form the past. dgwphotography Oct 16 2008 09:01 AM I think I'm going through the anger phase of mourning. I'm sure I'll come around, but right now, I just so angry over everything regarding the dismantling of Shea, and the move to his corporate playground. Through it all, I keep getting the feeling that Shea was ours, and CitiField belongs to him. Bastard. AG/DC Oct 16 2008 09:19 AM I don'think it's us against him when the vast majority of the fans and media supported the move. If so, it's a slender us. Farmer Ted Oct 16 2008 10:52 AM Painful. But ther new place will be a treat. themetfairy Oct 16 2008 11:06 AM The new place will be ours. We'll make it ours, dammit! G-Fafif Oct 16 2008 03:51 PM Tour[/url:24y3xk17] of Citi Field parking lot... metirish Oct 16 2008 06:05 PM Whats with the actual hole in the pitchers mound? Benjamin Grimm Oct 16 2008 06:53 PM I'm guessing there was something buried under the mound that they wanted to retrieve. I don't have a great guess as to what it was. My best guess is some kind of camera, but I don't recall seeing any mounds-eye views on any telecasts. soupcan Oct 16 2008 07:06 PM ="metirish":35vh26wx]Whats with the actual hole in the pitchers mound?[/quote:35vh26wx] I'm guessing that they dug up the pitching rubber - to sell it of course - and that hole is a result. dgwphotography Oct 16 2008 07:18 PM no - I think that was where the plumbing was for the hose they used to water down the infield.... soupcan Oct 17 2008 07:31 AM ="Iubitul"]no - I think that was where the plumbing was for the hose they used to water down the infield.... Makes more sense. Wonder how much they're selling that for Zvon Oct 19 2008 06:48 PM I didn't realize this til recently. I thought I was bummed at seasons end because the team failed to get to the post season. But being a Met fan for 40 years, this is really something I'm used to. For the team, there was/is always next year. But this was it for Shea.... This is what really bummed me out. That they couldn't get Shea to the post season one more time. That would have been the way send her off. Great pictures here posted by all, and really fun to view. Iubitul, your pictures of Shea are breathtaking. Absolutely breathtaking and beautiful. Everybody, thanks for sharing them. themetfairy Oct 19 2008 06:51 PM Warewolf! Good to see you, man. Don't be a stranger! metirish Oct 20 2008 12:29 PM Found this persons work over at Faith & Fear( looks like a few have been posted here already) , very extensive collection of great pictures. What does picture #40 show? picnic area? http://sports.webshots.com/album/568107635SUQZeD Read this from Jason over at Faith and Fear. http://www.faithandfearinflushing.com/ Farmer Ted Oct 20 2008 07:37 PM Where the heck are they storing 55,000 seats? metsguyinmichigan Oct 21 2008 08:21 AM Uniwatch reports that the Agee marker appears to have been saved! Willets Point Oct 21 2008 08:25 AM ="Farmer Ted"]Where the heck are they storing 55,000 seats? dgwphotography Oct 22 2008 04:55 AM ="metsguyinmichigan"] Uniwatch reports that the Agee marker appears to have been saved! Yeah - probably to be sold... soupcan Oct 22 2008 07:40 AM Farmer Ted Oct 22 2008 02:52 PM I share Belushi's reaction. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gI3nb9x5VhY Zvon Oct 22 2008 06:11 PM ="soupcan"] Oh my.... This is difficult to witness. PiggiesTomatoes Oct 24 2008 08:29 PM A couple of shots from my only game this season -- at least it was a win. The only win against the pitiful Mariners this season. Down in Tampa now and don't get back to NY all that often for games. > My basehit at Shea. Fantasy Camp reunion in 2006... The place may have been a bit of a dump but it was our dump. Rockin' Doc Oct 25 2008 05:37 AM Nice pictures. Welcome to the pool. Nice handle, I hope you stick around. metirish Oct 25 2008 05:46 AM ="PiggiesTomatoes":2399a9u7] The place may have been a bit of a dump but it was our dump.[/quote:2399a9u7] Thank you and welcome. metsguyinmichigan Oct 25 2008 01:01 PM Great photos! I can't imagine how glorious it was to get that hit. Welcome aBordick! themetfairy Oct 25 2008 01:43 PM This little piggy is a welcome addition to the Pool - Welcome Zvon Oct 25 2008 07:00 PM Excellent pics Piggie! Actually batting at Shea must have been an incredible experience. Is that a female catcher? PiggiesTomatoes Oct 25 2008 07:59 PM Thanks, everyone, for the kind words. I'd joined some time ago but didn't visit for a while, then got locked out and getting back in was a bitch! Riffraff filter must work. Getting to play on the field was a thrill and yes, it was a female catcher. She was the only female in camp and was a trooper. Regards, JF Kong76 Oct 26 2008 05:03 PM PT: joined some time ago but didn't visit for a while, then got locked out and getting back in was a bitch! Riffraff filter must work <<< Read your email around 9 AM on Fri and answered, and had you set up before 6 PM that same day. No one was locked out and getting back was as easy as sending an email. PiggiesTomatoes Oct 26 2008 07:33 PM I wasn't being critical...thought that use of the term riffraff filter would have communicated sarcasm. That said, I'd attempted logging in unsuccessfully with my original password without luck and when I tried to use the forgot password link, I repeatedly received a message that my name and email address did not match. Then, I was unable to find an email address on the forum to contact, ultimately "googling" to find the admin addy. It wasn't easy...but I do appreciate the prompt reply once I emailed the correct address. JF G-Fafif Oct 26 2008 07:38 PM PT, Great pictures. At first glance I wondered how the Mariners game was suddenly being played in daylight. Per your sobriquet, let us know who will be ready first: Hausman or Kobel. Kong76 Oct 27 2008 05:41 AM Maybe it's me and I'm just being cranky and defensive but the email address is right up top: Everybody in the pool! Joining us for off-season hot stove discussion is easy. Shoot us an email [click here] Glad you re-found us. Willets Point Oct 27 2008 01:12 PM Welcome Piggie! You can hold the conch while you're here. soupcan Oct 28 2008 10:54 AM will the Dunkin' Dounts cup be the last man standing? metirish Oct 28 2008 10:57 AM Helps keep the workers running. Gwreck Oct 28 2008 11:46 AM It's somewhat refreshing that nobody was dumb enough to shell out the ~$5000 the greedy MeiGray group was asking for it. AG/DC Oct 28 2008 11:47 AM Or they're moving it to the new digs. seawolf17 Oct 28 2008 01:12 PM It'd be funny if they just left it in the parking lot. Benjamin Grimm Oct 28 2008 01:22 PM They do seem to have demolished around it. Maybe it will be moved to Citi Field. I imagine the new place will have some advertising, no? SteveJRogers Oct 28 2008 01:23 PM ="Gwreck":1zlwh6r8]It's somewhat refreshing that nobody was dumb enough to shell out the ~$5000 the greedy MeiGray group was asking for it.[/quote:1zlwh6r8] Say what you will about memorabilia sellers like MeiGray and Steiner, that probably really is the going rate for that kind of unique advertising as memorabilia. Honestly, there probably is a market for stuff like that; McDonald arches, Big Boys Big Boy, etc. Just no one that got involved in the Shea Memorabilia auctions was into it. metirish Oct 28 2008 01:28 PM ="SteveJRogers":1991yy98] Say what you will about memorabilia sellers like MeiGray and Steiner,[/quote:1991yy98] Thank you , I will. Fucking scum they are. Benjamin Grimm Oct 28 2008 01:33 PM I'm not sure I understand the animosity. metirish Oct 28 2008 01:39 PM Well he said say what you want so I did.... soupcan Oct 28 2008 02:15 PM I guess as long as there are people out there who are willing to pay those ridiculous prices then I don't have an issue with someone charging it. Capitalism and all that. I am upset at the kind of money they are asking for stuff though. I intended to get a pair of seats but $869.00? Really? For what will amount to a novelty in my yard? Then I looked around the website and I thought that this: ...would be cool. But those are up over $1,200.00. They so take advantage of our own feelings towards the team - hundreds of dollars for bricks, almost a grand for seats. Its just a little disappointing is all. soupcan Nov 01 2008 11:01 AM Say goodbye to the shrimpeaters! Field level frst base side is the first to go. Valadius Nov 01 2008 11:21 AM Do they HAVE to have debris strewn around that wonderful field? Kong76 Nov 01 2008 11:26 AM SJR: Say what you will about memorabilia sellers like MeiGray <<< Irish: Thank you , I will. Fucking scum they are <<< I know the guy who was the first premier club guy in line and I didn't get the impression that the guys willing to spend the cash thought MeiGray was hus- tling anyone ... they're brokers. He advertised the event to everyone on his memorabilia buying list and I assume he did so to generate interest among those who were obviously interested. I hope he got a kick back, it's the American way! I wrote back that they're gonna cause a few divorces to which he quipped, "never tell your wife what you're really spending on Mets' stuff!" soupcan Nov 01 2008 11:49 AM ="Valadius":3pluypt1]Do they HAVE to have debris strewn around that wonderful field?[/quote:3pluypt1] I think that's kinda unavoidable when you're tearing a structure down. What are they supposed to do - follow the bulldozers around with a broom and dustpan? metsmarathon Nov 01 2008 02:40 PM that's just silly. what they should do is gingerly remove each and every peice the way it was originally put in, and delicately hand carry it out of the stadium grounds, stepping only on the red carpet laid across the field, and place each dutifully salvaged quantum of the stadium into its own velvet lined receptacle wherein it will remain interred through the end of time. soupcan Nov 03 2008 07:55 AM Dunkin' Donuts Down! Benjamin Grimm Nov 03 2008 07:57 AM I expected it would be surrounded by a large puddle of spilled coffee. soupcan Nov 03 2008 07:57 AM Link There are more pictures on the site. ] November 1, 2008 Bulk of Shea Stadium awaits sale in Bridgewater company's warehouse By MICHAEL DEAK Staff Writer From the outside it looks like an unremarkable warehouse, not like the pyramids in Egypt that were built as mausoleums for the pharaohs. But inside that squat warehouse are treasures that, for New York Mets fans, are as valuable as anything that has ever been found inside the pyramids. It is the Bridgewater warehouse of the MeiGray Group, which has the task of selling all the contents of Shea Stadium, except for the seats. Warren resident Barry Meisel, a former sportswriter for the New York Daily News who is the president and chief operating officer of the MeiGray Group, doesn't want the exact location of the warehouse disclosed for security reasons because it houses thousands of items saved from Shea Stadium before the stadium's slow demolition started earlier this month. Everything is for sale, except for two items that Meisel bought for himself � a picture of the celebration after the Mets clinched the World Series in 1969, and the portion of the center field wall that bears the 410-foot marker. "I always wanted that," he said. Memorabilia Meisel estimated that the warehouse contains from 5,000 to 7,000 items from Shea Stadium. Some of the items are relatively minor, such as the hundreds of nameplates that were placed on the back of seats occupied by season ticket holders. There are numerous boxes of photographs taken from the walls of corridors, executive offices, suites and inside the stadium. The pictures are blown-up images of legendary Mets and the unforgettable moments from the team's 46-year history. In the middle of the warehouse is a nondescript pile of wood found at any demolition site. But, Meisel said, it is a special pile of wood � boards from benches in both the home and visiting team dugouts. The boards were never replaced in the dugouts but have been painted many times, he said. Also in the middle of the warehouse are the 150-foot foul poles that have been broken into 25-foot sections. There are rows of lockers from both the Mets and visitors' locker rooms, as well as cubicles from where players hung their clothes and kept their valuables during games. Throughout the warehouse are piles of outfield wall sections including the retired numbers of players and managers. Flags that flew at the top of the stadium have also found a home in the warehouse. There also are hundreds of signs from throughout the stadium � signs that hung on restroom doors and signs that directed fans to the subway station. A sign of team mascot Mr. Met saying smoking is prohibited in the stadium has already been sold for $100, Meisel said. And there are hundreds of curiosities: an orange water cooler with the Mets logo and a plaque from Seton Hall University honoring Frank Cashen, who was the Mets general manager in the 1980s and considered to be the architect of the team that won the 1986 World Series. There is even a lime marker that came from the Polo Grounds, the original home of the Mets, that was still used by the grounds crew at Shea. Toward the front of the warehouse is a cluster of fan assistance, concession and program booths that Meisel said would look great in any Met fan's backyard. One of the most intriguing items is the concrete marker that was placed in the left field upper deck where centerfielder Tommie Agee hit the longest home run in Shea Stadium's history, on April 10, 1969. Some of the most popular items salvaged from the stadium are not in the warehouse because they've already been sold. All of the stadium's 31 turnstiles have been sold. It was a daunting job, but all of the items were recovered from Shea Stadium after the last game of the season. Swing bidder Many of the items from Shea will be auctioned on the MeiGray's group's Web site. The first auction ended Friday, Oct. 31, but Meisel said there will be future monthly auctions. He estimates it will take a year to sell everything from the stadium. Proceeds from the sale will be divided among New York City, which owns the stadium, and the Mets Foundation, said Jay Horowitz, vice president of media relations for the Mets. The Mets Foundation funds and promotes a variety of charitable causes, including educational, social and athletic programs for young people. What people are willing to pay for some of the items has Meisel scratching his head. For example, the wrought-iron "tree surrounds" with the Mets logo that protected the trees in the parking lot are receiving bids of more than $1,000. Menu board signs from concession stands are fetching bids around $1,000. A section of the outfield wall goes for close to $900. Bids on ketchup and mustard holders with the Mets logo are more than $500. Even a neon Bud Light sign has a bid of $515. As a literal sign of better times, an outfield wall panel with an AIG advertisement had a bid of $1,420. "This (sale) only happens once every 45 years," Meisel said. A Jersey boy Meisel and his partner Bob Gray started the MeiGray Group in the 1990s. After 19 years as a sportswriter for the Daily News covering professional hockey and the New York Giants, Meisel said he became tired of traveling. Meisel's decision to channel his interest in sports into a new career came at an opportune time. With the economy growing steadily, the market for collectible sports memorabilia began to boom in the late 1990s. He developed the idea of selling authenticated jerseys that were worn by professional hockey players. He wrote a business plan and approached one of the teams that he used to cover, the New York Rangers, and in August 1997 signed an exclusive deal to sell the team's previously worn jerseys. The Rangers deal led to agreements with the New Jersey Devils. Next, the MeiGray group inked deals with NBA teams. An NHL or NBA player goes through about six jerseys during a season, three in the home uniform and three in the away uniforms, he said. Last week, as Meisel was sitting in the warehouse, he showed a jersey that had been worn the previous night by Elton Brand, an NBA veteran free agent, who had made his debut as a Philadelphia 76er on the night of Wednesday, Oct. 29. "It smells," Meisel said. "It's sweaty." But it's also valuable to collectors and fans of Brand. That's why representatives, working with the teams' equipment managers, of the MeiGray Group often go into locker rooms immediately after games to get the jerseys. The key to the business, headquartered in Branchburg, is the authentication process that guarantees buyers they are getting genuine items. The jersey comes with a letter of authentication with the team's letterhead, Meisel said. The MeiGray Group has seven full-time employees who are responsible for acquiring the items, cataloging and pricing them, selling them and then shipping them to the buyers. "We have a great staff," Meisel said, adding that he hires collectors to help him put values on the items. The company's growing reputation was one of the reasons why the MeiGray Group got the contract with the Mets to sell the memorabilia from Shea Stadium, which is owned by the City of New York. Meisel is no longer spending hours away from home traveling for his job, but said he works from 60 to 70 hours a week. "I'm happy," he said. "This is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity." John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 03 2008 07:58 AM ="soupcan"]Dunkin' Donuts Down! Finally some destruction I can support. It be cool if we cracked that open and Rachel Ray would come out naked. Edgy DC Nov 03 2008 08:01 AM it would be kind of cool to give the Agee marker to the Agee family. Ditto the Seaver/Stengel/Hodges numbers. Farmer Ted Nov 03 2008 08:42 AM The DD sign was an eyesore. Those stupid police lights and the K sign were bad ideas drawn up by some idiot in a board room. Edgy DC Nov 03 2008 08:47 AM Doesn't this look like they composed a Met jersey and photoshopped it onto a Yankee picture of Wille? metirish Nov 03 2008 08:48 AM ] Finally some destruction I can support. It be cool if we cracked that open and Rachel Ray would come out naked. Saw her recently and couldn't believe how heavy she has gotten. Benjamin Grimm Nov 03 2008 08:55 AM Rachael Ray is an example of how someone can be both cute AND unappealing at the same time. Edgy DC Nov 03 2008 08:58 AM Can we just not talk about happy homemakers from TV ever? Benjamin Grimm Nov 03 2008 09:04 AM metsguyinmichigan Nov 03 2008 09:53 AM ="Benjamin Grimm":2zdqcdh1]Rachael Ray is an example of how someone can be both cute AND unappealing at the same time.[/quote:2zdqcdh1] Well, if you go back to the early shows on Food Network, she was always a little chunky, part of her girl next door appeal. She certainly had a makeover when the show went big, and this year appeared to have some, um, surgical enhancements, in the chest area, unless they did some severe Photoshop work for the magazine covers. My crush on Rachael is well-known, and somewhat tolerated by my wife. Benjamin Grimm Nov 03 2008 11:14 AM It's not her weight that makes her unappealing, it's the noises that come out of her mouth. G-Fafif Nov 03 2008 11:42 AM ="Edgy DC":2j9ucmx8]Doesn't this look like they composed a Met jersey and photoshopped it onto a Yankee picture of Wille? [/quote:2j9ucmx8] This would explain why the Mets in recent years seemed so flat. metsguyinmichigan Nov 03 2008 12:10 PM ="Benjamin Grimm":1wzmvwjl]It's not her weight that makes her unappealing, it's the noises that come out of her mouth.[/quote:1wzmvwjl] She talks? Benjamin Grimm Nov 03 2008 12:17 PM She tries. themetfairy Nov 03 2008 01:02 PM She squawks. seawolf17 Nov 03 2008 02:46 PM ="soupcan":1mxbmvn9]A sign of team mascot Mr. Met saying smoking is prohibited in the stadium has already been sold for $100, Meisel said.[/quote:1mxbmvn9] FUCKIN' HELL. That's all I wanted from the stadium. I just left a message with someone at MeiGray. soupcan Nov 07 2008 07:18 AM Found these at baseball-fever.com First game ever at Shea... Last game ever at Shea... Benjamin Grimm Nov 07 2008 07:37 AM It was prettier when it opened than when it closed. Edgy DC Nov 07 2008 08:39 AM The pitch could have been in better condition. G-Fafif Nov 07 2008 09:00 AM A ballpark that looked better with a parking lot in the background will now itself be a parking lot. The irony is as thick as the outfield grass was thin. Benjamin Grimm Nov 07 2008 09:12 AM Looking at the two photos together really shows how much garishness was added to Shea over the years. I'm sure Citi Field with start out with a lot of that clutter already in place. I can only imagine what it will look like 40 years from now. (And I hope I live to find out! At this point, another 40 years is about as much as I care to get.) John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 07 2008 09:33 AM ="Edgy DC":2749cxyp]The pitch could have been in better condition.[/quote:2749cxyp] Shea was barely complete when it opened. They worked till the very last minute. They said it was very soft and muddy in the outfield. metirish Nov 07 2008 09:40 AM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":1qbr6llo] ="Edgy DC":1qbr6llo]The pitch could have been in better condition.[/quote:1qbr6llo] Shea was barely complete when it opened. They worked till the very last minute. They said it was very soft and muddy in the outfield.[/quote:1qbr6llo] Was there even a fence at the back behind CF separating it form the parking lot , it's hard to tell. soupcan Nov 07 2008 09:43 AM And half of the parking lot isn't even paved yet. Willets Point Nov 07 2008 09:46 AM All the cars are the same size though. soupcan Nov 11 2008 08:03 AM First base Field level is gone, Third base nearly so. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 08:14 AM One advantage to implosions (yes, I realize that wasn't possible in this case) is that they're quick. This is like a band-aid being slowly and painfully peeled off. seawolf17 Nov 11 2008 11:29 AM ="themetfairy":2tehg78d]One advantage to implosions (yes, I realize that wasn't possible in this case) is that they're quick. This is like a band-aid being slowly and painfully peeled off.[/quote:2tehg78d] No kidding. I should stop opening this thread. G-Fafif Nov 11 2008 12:26 PM That sure was some tadium. Zvon Nov 11 2008 12:57 PM ="themetfairy":3vpl9tnq]One advantage to implosions (yes, I realize that wasn't possible in this case) is that they're quick. This is like a band-aid being slowly and painfully peeled off.[/quote:3vpl9tnq] I couldn't have said it better. I have to say I am a bit surprised how the destruction of Shea is effecting me. It has to be this slow torturous way I'm viewing it bit by bit. ="seawolf17":3vpl9tnq]No kidding. I should stop opening this thread.[/quote:3vpl9tnq] I'm with you seawolf17. Edgy DC Nov 11 2008 01:12 PM We let this happen. More than a few advocated it's happening. It's no time to turn away now. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 01:22 PM I'll own up to wanting the new stadium. I'm not denying that. But I've seen this transition done in several other cities during the past few years, and to a team they've all handled it better than the Mets have. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 01:34 PM I'm enjoying the pictures and saving everyone one of them. Keep 'em coming, I stopped licking my wound about ten days ago. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 01:35 PM tmf: they've all handled it better than the Mets have <<< How so? soupcan Nov 11 2008 01:39 PM I'll miss the old girl too but c'mon. Think of what it will be like having wide walkways! Benjamin Grimm Nov 11 2008 01:42 PM Wide walkways and legroom are nothing to sneeze at. I'd feel differently if I still lived in New York. But as rarely as I get to Shea Queens to see the Mets play anymore, I don't think Citi Field will ever feel like home to me. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 01:44 PM I remember the Phillies homage to the Vet in 2003 - a stadium that was younger than Shea and didn't have nearly the history Shea did. IIRC they were the first to take down a number before each game, but they made sure that every number was taken down by someone with a meaningful connection to the team or the stadium (not a Lincoln Mercury dealer in the lot). Their post-game ceremony after their final game was very moving (I'll find the link to it shortly), without the idiotic delay that Mets fans had to endure after Shea's final game. They had books ghost written by the Phillies Phanatic helping prepare younger fans for the move. From top to bottom it just seemed like a much better thought out operation. Edgy DC Nov 11 2008 01:49 PM That has little to do with photos of the de-construction. Is a delay before a ceremony such a big deal? themetfairy Nov 11 2008 01:52 PM The delay before the ceremony was just endemic of the half-assed job the Mets did in properly celebrating Shea's final season. They had an opportunity to do the old girl real justice, and they dropped the ball every chance they could. I couldn't find that footage of the final game ceremony at the Vet on the Phillies' site (and I feel very dirty trolling around there - ick!). But it had much more of a well-planned feel to it. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 01:56 PM How did we get from handling the transition in a day by day demolition thread which you said other teams did better to closing ceremonies and silly number countdowns? themetfairy Nov 11 2008 02:06 PM ="KC"]How did we get from handling the transition in a day by day demolition thread which you said other teams did better to closing ceremonies and silly number countdowns? I mentioned the transition in general. You asked for details. I think that if the Mets did a better job in paying homage to Shea this past season that people wouldn't be as upset about its destruction as they are. Agree or disagree with that premise - it's merely a theory. Edgy DC Nov 11 2008 02:08 PM I wouldn't feel dirty seeking for it if you liked it. If you like it, you like it. It's all MLB's website anyhow. I'm just not ready to kick the Mets because they don't demolish the stadium in a manner comparable to the White Sox or the Rangers. Or such having anything to do with why folks say they won't open this thread. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 02:12 PM You seem to be switching gears, going from "we let this happen/some advocated for it" to "I'm not ready to kick the Mets." You cool with this or not? Kong76 Nov 11 2008 02:15 PM tmf: I mentioned the transition in general. You asked for details <<< How did all the others "to a team" handle the dismantling of their old stadium better than the Mets? Edgy DC Nov 11 2008 02:21 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Nov 11 2008 02:27 PM You're excerpting phrases out of sentences there. It's clear to anybody that I didn't support a new stadium. How it's demolished is a moot point and I don't see how it can be done better, or indeed has been done better by everyone else. Frayed Knot Nov 11 2008 02:25 PM Maybe they can demolish the stadium by bringing each piece out on a velvet pillow laid out on a sled pulled by a puppy dog. I'm sure we'd all feel better then. This wound-licking is getting too much. I want video of the destruction and i hope it's bloody. Benjamin Grimm Nov 11 2008 02:29 PM I don't think the Mets did such a bad job with the last year of Shea. Yeah, there were too many Lincoln-Mercury dealers pulling down the numbers. But I think the closing ceremony was nicely done. Very nicely done. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 02:36 PM The physical demolition of Shea has to be done in this manner because implosion is not possible. My point is that I don't think that people would be reacting to the demolition process as painfully as they are if the Mets had done a better job of honoring Shea properly in its final season. Benjamin Grimm Nov 11 2008 02:38 PM Speaking only for myself, I just find it a little bit sad. No pain though. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 02:39 PM I know people who are in real pain over this. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 02:44 PM There's no way I could cull what fairy's point was from what she typed, I don't read posters minds, we were talking about the demolition pics. Problem with getting too wrapped up in the Mets will never be the same with- out good ol' Shea is before you know it's twenty years from now and you're writing letters to the paper like Bob L about how greener the grass was there and popcorn fresher. The bathroom floors were even drier and less sticky 20 years from now too I bet and those wonderful sight lines ... themetfairy Nov 11 2008 02:50 PM If that's the case, then I weep for the yet-to-be-finished Citi Field. Frayed Knot Nov 11 2008 02:54 PM I think we're starting to sound like the wound-lickers we used to make fun of; - oh no, this stadium is being destroyed worse than any other stadium in the history of destroyed stadiums - only the Mets could paint their foul lines crooked - why did Shea have to die so young? Kong76 Nov 11 2008 02:57 PM tmf: I know people who are in real pain over this <<< Send 'em here! Edgy DC Nov 11 2008 03:00 PM ="Frayed Knot":3qcqh3up]I think we're starting to sound like the wound-lickers we used to make fun of; - oh no, this stadium is being destroyed worse than any other stadium in the history of destroyed stadiums - only the Mets could paint their foul lines crooked - why did Shea have to die so young?[/quote:3qcqh3up] Wait a minute, that second one wuz you. Edgy DC Nov 11 2008 03:00 PM ="KC"]tmf: I know people who are in real pain over this <<< Send 'em here! I think they're minors. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 03:02 PM Actually, Iubital's post yesterday ("it doesn't surprise me") started me on this build up of let's stop the wound licking that was bound to come out. I think. I ain't going back to look. (OE: meaning the foul line not lining up) themetfairy Nov 11 2008 03:18 PM ="Edgy DC"] ="KC"]tmf: I know people who are in real pain over this <<< Send 'em here! I think they're minors. No - the minors I know aren't as connected to Shea as most of the adults I know. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 03:24 PM How do they feel about the demolition? Do the also feel that it's being handled "to a team" much worse by the Mets? Or are they just bitter about the closing ceremonies and number countdown too? Send 'em here. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 03:32 PM Who are you talking about? Kong76 Nov 11 2008 03:39 PM The people who are in real pain over this, McFly. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 03:45 PM I'll leave it to them to specifically reply to you or not. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 03:50 PM If they're here (and I suspected they were) then you should have left them out of your poor defense to begin with and let them speak for themselves. You wiggled off like four hooks in this thread. G-Fafif Nov 11 2008 04:06 PM There is beauty, pain and joy in baseball. When they gut and pry apart where you experienced most of it, a person is likely to reflect on all three and feel, upon viewing the kinds of pictures in question, one of those sensations in particular. The beauty and the joy may have been carried out safely before MeiGray could sell them, but it is not surprising that the pain should linger and overshadow for many if not all across the duration of the demolition. Later? Who knows? We haven't been there yet. I suspect the beauty and the pain and the joy will coalesce into the warmer memories the magic of distance allows. Reality says somebody's doing a job in taking down Shea Stadium. Reality says the plan has been on the table long enough for everybody to adjust to the plan. But baseball and reality were never intended to mesh so easily. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 04:17 PM Eloquent as ever, and on topic. Bravo! themetfairy Nov 11 2008 04:29 PM ="KC":cumx5g68]If they're here (and I suspected they were) then you should have left them out of your poor defense to begin with and let them speak for themselves. You wiggled off like four hooks in this thread.[/quote:cumx5g68] Don't ask direct questions if you're not going to like the answers. What was I supposed to do? Ignore you? G-Fafif Nov 11 2008 04:32 PM ="KC":3vuetxpl]Eloquent as ever, and on topic. Bravo![/quote:3vuetxpl] Thanks much, but just throwing the last pitch of what TMF stated quite reasonably, I think...Benitez to the Fairy's Leiter, as it were. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 04:33 PM Thanks G. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 04:35 PM I disagree, I think she said something and then changed it to something else and then played on then something else. I have to stop, I'm gonna start getting PM's about causing waves in the bath tub. Frayed Knot Nov 11 2008 04:38 PM ="Edgy DC"] ="Frayed Knot"]I think we're starting to sound like the wound-lickers we used to make fun of; - oh no, this stadium is being destroyed worse than any other stadium in the history of destroyed stadiums - only the Mets could paint their foul lines crooked - why did Shea have to die so young? Wait a minute, that second one wuz you. Yes, but I was just noting the fact that they looked off via the angle in that aerial shot. What followed was a reply which stated that only the Mets could do something like that as if the new stadium really will have foul poles 150' from home plate on account of this organization being so incompetant that the thought of seeing where the lines actually lead hasn't yet occured to anyone during this whole multi-million dollar operation. I'd bring up the one post wondering if they really had to ruin the grass with all that machinery during the deconstruction but I don't think that one was totally serious (although I waver at times). G-Fafif Nov 11 2008 04:39 PM I find it way more upsetting that I posted my way up from Richie Hebner only to morph into Jerry DiPoto. Who ranks these things? Oh right. Us. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 04:46 PM ="KC":6z6ktyl3]I disagree, I think she said something and then changed it to something else and then played on then something else. I have to stop, I'm gonna start getting PM's about causing waves in the bath tub.[/quote:6z6ktyl3] I did nothing of the kind. I answered a question that you asked me. You chose not to like the answer. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 05:05 PM I ain't outlining it for you, and don't be so fucking snippy. You're not always right. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 05:07 PM I'm just playing defense here. I'm not the one accusing people of changing things around. Nor have I done or said anything that merits you swearing at me. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 05:16 PM I'm sorry, but you're just freakin' maddening sometimes. Poorly handled transition does not equal demolition. Go wiggle yourself. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 05:24 PM I never said it equaled demolition. I was talking about people's reactions to the demolition. And nothing I said justifies the kind of reaction you're having. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 05:33 PM No, your first response was about the closing ceremonies and the count down .... have you been drinking with cooby? I'm comfortable with my reaction for purposes of this thread and I apologize for cursing and that's all I have to say on the matter. C'mon, "go wiggle yourself" was pretty funny. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 05:43 PM No, I have not been drinking. This is what you consider an apology? I made a comment about the transition being handled poorly. You asked me to extrapolate. I did, and you reacted in a pretty hostile manner. If you don't like my opinion that's your prerogative. But you needn't go off like that just because you disagree with it. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 05:50 PM I apologized for cursing, that's it. Your reading comprehension skills are taking a beating in this thread. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 05:54 PM No. I'm simply taking a beating for not seeing an issue exactly the way that you do. Kong76 Nov 12 2008 04:20 AM A beating? If I was gonna get nasty I'd dig up a picture of you in a Phillies uniform and really stick it to you. I'm ultimately taking the beating when we argue because the bath house mentality of this board will almost always side with you. Mean ol' KC. *sigh* HahnSolo Nov 12 2008 06:42 AM Hi, I'm here for the "intelligent, lively and provocative discussion of the Mets, Ed Kranepool, and on a good day, the Ramones." Am I in the right place? Kong76 Nov 12 2008 06:58 AM seawolf17 Nov 12 2008 07:17 AM ="HahnSolo":3u9spspm]Hi, I'm here for the "intelligent, lively and provocative discussion of the Mets, Ed Kranepool, and on a good day, the Ramones." Am I in the right place?[/quote:3u9spspm] Eff that. I come here for the weekly KC/Scarlet fights. Edgy DC Nov 12 2008 07:35 AM I missed a GREAT NIGHT. Zvon Nov 12 2008 08:48 PM whats all this then....? Pages of posts but nary an image. Addressing the issue of pain... Some of us do feel pain in regard to Shea's demise. It's not even that bad. Its a pang....a feeling of remorse. It hurts on a level that's hard to express, and its a passing phase. Eventually this will be a thing of the past. Not yet though, seeing it being ripped down bit by bit, here and at other places as well. I have been going around and collecting pictures of Shea myself. Anything I come across. Early days,recent times,....even the demolition. So I bop in here and I see there have been additions to the Shea Photo thread, and I'm like, "Oh kool! Maybe its one I haven't seen. Hope its the older Shea...but any nice pic of Shea would be sweet to see..." I hope to see pictures of Shea in way of a recollection, an homage. That's just me though. Maybe there should be a seperate thread for Shea's demolition, ...I dunno. But it's really not a big deal. As you can see I'll still check out this thread, hoping for kool pics of Shea Stadium when it was in use. I've come across some really great Shea photos online recently, especially at Baseball Fever. Like this one. I am 95% positive that thats me running onto the field after game 5 of the '73 NLCS. Edgy DC Nov 12 2008 09:05 PM Classy look. Apparently, nobody was allowed in that day --- by law --- except 21-year-old white males with shoulder-length hair, workshirts, and bellbottoms. Zvon Nov 12 2008 09:15 PM ="Edgy DC":3fjgok91]Classy look. Apparently, nobody was allowed in that day --- by law --- except 21-year-old white males with shoulder-length hair, workshirts, and bellbottoms.[/quote:3fjgok91] Not so. I was 15. Kong76 Nov 13 2008 04:34 AM EDC: Classy look. Apparently, nobody was allowed in that day --- by law --- except 21-year-old white males with shoulder-length hair, workshirts, and bellbottoms ------------- I never noticed, but you're right. It looks like they just opened a gate for field level gen adm for a Deep Purple concert or something and all the guys are scrambling to get a good spot. Cool picture to be in. G-Fafif Nov 13 2008 05:42 AM It's fascinating, from a cultural perspective, to contrast the crowds storming the field images from '69 and '73. The tumult of the '60s may have waned away from the ballpark, but its remnants seem to have become codified in places that were largely shielded from change while change was at its most intense: like the ballpark. (Which is probably what pissed Dick Young off so.) It's often been said there was more of an edge to the '73 rushing of the field than '69's, for what that's worth. I don't remember the Orioles complaining they were frightened for their well-being the way the Reds did. That YouTube clip that MLB pulled earlier this year, the pregame show from Game Four of the '73 World Series, showed (to me anyway) what a different world we were living in versus four years earlier, not just in style but substance. If you recall, Kubek, Seaver and Hunter were all taking Charlie Finley to task for his handling of the Mike Andrews situation. Questioning authority, kind of a radical concept in establishment circles in 1969, was part of the polyester fabric of the game by 1973. Probably not a coincidence this was the same year as the Senate's Watergate hearings nor that within two weeks there would be such a backlash to the Saturday Night Massacre. soupcan Nov 14 2008 09:54 AM Latest shots from wcbs880 chopper... Field level is completely gone now. Here's some interesting stuff that I got from baseball fever. Shea Demolition Plans: Edgy DC Nov 14 2008 09:58 AM What's a "NON-BEARTING STRUCTURE"? Benjamin Grimm Nov 14 2008 10:00 AM Before anyone else beats me to it, let me just get this out of the way: It figures! The stupid Mets can't even get the spelling right! Willets Point Nov 14 2008 10:04 AM Question for Zvon. Is your shirt open showing your Siegfried & Roy hairless chest or were you wearing a fleshtone t-shirt? Zvon Nov 14 2008 01:26 PM ="Willets Point"]Question for Zvon. Is your shirt open showing your Siegfried & Roy hairless chest or were you wearing a fleshtone t-shirt? lol. I never went around displaying my slinky chest so I'm sure that's a T-shirt. Doubt it was fleshtone, probly orange. Thing is I'm not positive that's me. First time I saw the pic I looked right past that guy searching for me. Eventually I got back to him and thought that must be me. I have no recollection of what I wore that day. I do know I was a skinny guy with long hair who always wore white sneaks. If I had on a flannel shirt, which I wore often enough, it be rolled up at the sleeves. And the path I took puts me right about where that guy is. After that I ran to the edge of the home plate grass, stopped... saw that girl on the mound (looks like she's going for the rubber <[joke setup<]).. our eyes met...I ran to her on the mound and we did a Koosman/Grote type jump and hug. Twirled in a circle, split and ran in different directions. I never saw her again but I'll never forget that moment. Benjamin Grimm Nov 14 2008 01:27 PM I had no idea that Marlo Thomas was there that day! metirish Nov 14 2008 01:34 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Nov 14 2008 01:34 PM WOW , what a great picture , guy in the yellow shirt at second stands out and I count three suits that might be security , one to the right of yellow shirt and one to the left of Buddy and one n front of him. Edgy DC Nov 14 2008 01:34 PM That's a great story. How about Barry Gibb chicken dancing to your right? Zvon Nov 14 2008 01:37 PM ="Edgy DC":38ctzctd]That's a great story. How about Barry Gibb chicken dancing to your right?[/quote:38ctzctd] No hug for him. Zvon Nov 14 2008 02:31 PM The thing about storming (and that's a very apt description) of the field in '73, and why it did get out of control, was that every kid wanted to be part of that moment, to be part of the celebration like in '69. And as the game went on we all had the same idea : to get down to field level so it was possible. We did the same thing during game four. I ended up on the 1st base side then. Rose hit that extra inning homer and the celebration was over. I was right on the rail behind the added box on the 3rd base side late in game 5. The Reds families were sitting in them. Eventually the game was stopped and they were led out to the Reds bullpen for their safety. And it's not that we were bothering them personally in any way, shape or form (fans did taunt them when they were being led away though, lol). Its just that there was a sea of people behind them that became like one big giant swaying creature. We could not move independently, could hardly even breath. And you know what I did then? I jumped the rail into the make shift box. Like the Reds families I was a bit concerned for my safety. Unfortunately everyone along the rail ended up jumping into the box like lemmings. Again we became crammed. I saw the fans on the 1st base side did the same thing, but they were so packed in that the little wooden wall that enclosed the section collapsed, and they spilled out onto the field. The game had to be halted again. Tug was on the mound at this point. He was pissed off. I remember him approaching the pile of people waving his arms over and over in an upward motion as if to say EVERYONE! BACK UP AND INTO THE STANDS! It was pretty crazy. I got so sandwiched in the corner of the box that I felt that we were gonna burst out on this side too. I jumped out and went down into the Reds dugout. I was able to hide in plain sight there for quite a few minutes, sitting on a stool in the far corner of the dugout. Eventually a cop came up to me and asked what I was doing there. I told him...I was trying to stay alive, lol. He told me I had to stay alive back up in the stands. This was when I was shown on TV, when the cop was talking to me. (my parents and brothers got to see that from home. My bros thought it was the koolest thing, my folks were like wtf were you doing?). I've told this story before here (I have also mentioned looking for the footage of me on TV and it is nowhere to be found.) but I don't think I ever stressed the point that what happened occurred because too many kids had this dream of being in a '69 like celebration highlight reel. And what actually happened was we so embarrassed the team, the game, the city, that that footage will forever be locked away and forgotten. One of my best Shea memories though. A Boy Named Seo Nov 14 2008 02:40 PM I re-read that part about you being in the Reds dugout a couple times thinking I misread or misunderstood you. That's the craziest thing I've ever heard. Wild story, man. Thanks for sharing. dgwphotography Nov 15 2008 12:28 PM I think I'm one of the one's in real pain over this that TMF is referring to. The thing is not once has the countdown, the ceremonies, or anything that the Mets did or didn't do play a role in it. It is simply the fact that a place that has been a desired destination for me for over 35 years is no longer there. Shea is a place that I dreamed about visiting since my aunt gave me my first yearbook in 1972. It's the knowledge that I will never feel the attachment to the new place that I do to the old place. It's the fact that it was a home away from home of sorts - a place where I knew ever nook and cranny, where I knew where to get the best knishes, or the best dogs. A place that is home to so many memories. Whatever the Mets did or didn't do to mark this occasion plays no role in how I feel about it. Benjamin Grimm Nov 15 2008 01:43 PM I agree with that, except for the part about feeling real pain. I feel a touch of sadness, and a sense of loss, but I wouldn't call it pain. Kong76 Nov 15 2008 04:31 PM I'd like to get a copy of that CAD file with the non bearting typo. Hell, they show part of the guy's name and addy and it was easily discovered who and where he is. Maybe he's got a sense of humor and would leak one to us. Edgy DC Nov 15 2008 07:56 PM Scarsdale. Vic can take a short drive and knock on his door. cooby Nov 16 2008 08:19 PM Zvon, great picture, great stories! cooby Nov 16 2008 08:20 PM And what does "Non Bearting" mean? soupcan Nov 18 2008 11:01 AM All of these from baseball-fever.com Edgy DC Nov 18 2008 11:11 AM What? The auction house couldn't generate any action on the spongetech.com sign? Farmer Ted Nov 18 2008 11:17 AM Soup's top photo shows the location of our old seats. Crushing. Willets Point Nov 18 2008 11:25 AM ="Edgy DC":133d3wiq]What? The auction house couldn't generate any action on the spongetech.com sign?[/quote:133d3wiq] Maybe Bubba Sponge? Farmer Ted Nov 18 2008 11:31 AM Missed the Spongetech sign. Very sponge worthy. soupcan Nov 20 2008 10:01 AM More pictures available at nycsubway.org 9/1963 5/10/1964 8/1/1979 8/1/1979 Tiles removed between 1979 and 1980. 8/16/1980 9/24/2008 holychicken Nov 24 2008 09:01 AM Might be a bit late for this coming in after all of the destruction pics . . . but this is one of my favorite pictures of shea. It is my gf's younger sister. John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 24 2008 09:47 AM ="holychicken"]Might be a bit late for this coming in after all of the destruction pics . . . but this is one of my favorite pictures of shea. It is my gf's younger sister. Is she like, legal? holychicken Nov 24 2008 09:56 AM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":22rs38rb]Is she like, legal?[/quote:22rs38rb] Oh, I see. You see a dark-skinned person and immediately think "illegal immigrant." You should be ashamed! ehehhe SteveJRogers Nov 24 2008 11:37 AM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket"] ="holychicken"]Might be a bit late for this coming in after all of the destruction pics . . . but this is one of my favorite pictures of shea. It is my gf's younger sister. Is she like, legal? Uh, 'Bucket, aren't you very much attached at the moment? Now Chicken, I ask you the same question! Benjamin Grimm Nov 24 2008 11:39 AM I find it a little odd to be lusting after someone when all you know is the shape of her nose. Edgy DC Nov 24 2008 11:44 AM And which pores are and aren't corrupted. holychicken Nov 24 2008 12:06 PM Exactly. I didn't even post a picture of her most desirable body part, her posterior. Dear god, tell me my gf doesn't read this forum or she will surely whup me. seawolf17 Nov 24 2008 12:08 PM ="holychicken":21z05y4i]Exactly. I didn't even post a picture of her most desirable body part, her posterior. Dear god, tell me my gf doesn't read this forum or she will surely whup me.[/quote:21z05y4i] It's okay, you can still post it. We don't mind. Edgy DC Nov 24 2008 12:25 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Nov 24 2008 12:42 PM Butts, schmutz. Steve's a snot man. seawolf17 Nov 24 2008 12:38 PM ="Edgy DC":1hrzmxox]Butts, schmutz. Steve's a snot man.[/quote:1hrzmxox] Must be a Yankee fan thing. SteveJRogers Nov 24 2008 01:14 PM ="holychicken":26x42lii]Exactly. I didn't even post a picture of her most desirable body part, her posterior. Dear god, tell me my gf doesn't read this forum or she will surely whup me.[/quote:26x42lii] Geez, I was just following Bucket's lead. I mean I need some Met Chick love more than he does! soupcan Dec 04 2008 08:12 AM All from baseball-fever John Cougar Lunchbucket Dec 04 2008 08:18 AM Mike Mulligan always said his Steam Shovel could take down one stadium as fast as 100 men could in a day, although he was never quite sure of that. Benjamin Grimm Dec 04 2008 08:26 AM So now they're chewing away at the Loge level? Are they going to get to a point where there's just an unattached Upper Level (or Upper Tank as Keith Hernandez would call it) floating high in the air? soupcan Dec 04 2008 08:28 AM Yeah that's weird isn't it? You'd think they'd go top to bottom rather than the other way around. I'd like to think that they are professional demolishers and know what they are doing rather than they might just be stupid. Edgy DC Dec 04 2008 09:21 AM I don't know. These two guys aren't winning any smart awards with me right now. << dgwphotography Dec 04 2008 10:58 AM ="soupcan"] Zvon - is it me, or does this look tone-mapped? It looks like it has that HDR glow to it... HahnSolo Dec 04 2008 11:21 AM ="Edgy DC":2sv0q5gv] I don't know. These two guys aren't winning any smart awards with me right now. << [/quote:2sv0q5gv] Those two guys are still waiting for their hot pretzel ordered at the last home game. G-Fafif Dec 04 2008 12:30 PM Talk about your stiff Breezes playing havoc with Shea's outfield. Valadius Dec 04 2008 02:00 PM Part of me is rooting to see the picture of them ripping down that Fox News sign. Edgy DC Dec 04 2008 02:14 PM You strike me as somewhat partisan. Am I right? soupcan Dec 04 2008 02:17 PM Who Vlad? Nah - he's as fair and balanced as they come. Kong76 Dec 04 2008 03:45 PM I sent those latest photos to a friend of mine. He wrote back that he thought they were building a new stadium and not just fixing up Shea and slappin' on a new coat of paint like in years gone by. Chucklehead. Zvon Dec 04 2008 04:57 PM ="Iubitul"] ="soupcan"] Zvon - is it me, or does this look tone-mapped? It looks like it has that HDR glow to it... Yes. Especially in comparison with the others. It does bring the shaded areas out. Zvon Dec 04 2008 05:02 PM I wish they would get this over with. How are they gonna take down the highest heights sans demolition? themetfairy Dec 04 2008 05:12 PM It may take a while. I remember Old Comiskey Park was in a state of partial demolition when we visited New Comiskey in August of 1991. Kong76 Dec 04 2008 05:22 PM Z: How are they gonna take down the highest heights sans demolition? <=== Cranes and stuff, and how is what they've been doing not demolition? Kong76 Dec 04 2008 05:52 PM tmf: It may take a while. <=== They don't really have much time if they plan to level the joint and make it a parking lot. My guess is they'll finish well before opening day. I don't want to get into union contracts twice tonight, but they make it worth it to finish on time so there's no lolligaggin' nowadays. Zvon Dec 05 2008 03:10 PM ="KC":21ab889l]Cranes and stuff, and how is what they've been doing not demolition?[/quote:21ab889l] Sorry. I meant the usage of explosive charges. Kong76 Dec 05 2008 03:42 PM I figured, I was just goofin'. soupcan Dec 09 2008 08:13 AM Upper deck wrecking ball. BAM! Benjamin Grimm Dec 09 2008 08:32 AM They should have painted the wrecking ball to look like a baseball. metirish Dec 09 2008 08:33 AM That would have been really taking the piss on those that see that as a sad event. Benjamin Grimm Dec 09 2008 08:37 AM It would be a nod to tradition. It's what they did with the Ebbets Field wrecking ball. The same ball was used a few years later on the Polo Grounds: Benjamin Grimm Dec 09 2008 08:50 AM Cincinnati's Crosley Field too! soupcan Dec 13 2008 02:19 PM Wow - now I'm even starting to have a hard time looking... baseball-fever.com Benjamin Grimm Dec 13 2008 02:36 PM Yikes. Edgy DC Dec 13 2008 02:55 PM GYAH! Kong76 Dec 13 2008 07:10 PM They didn't sell the panels depicting the leap and Seaver's head? Edgy DC Dec 13 2008 07:23 PM It looks like the terrorist hit we were praying wouldn't happen actually did. Kong76 Dec 13 2008 07:44 PM Fuck terrorists, an accidental plane crash on a foggy evening in the wrong flight path was what I thought mighta happened one day. *62 Dec 14 2008 12:56 PM The pictures may be gruesome but the Stadium has overstayed its welcome. I may miss living in Brooklyn desperately, but 3,000 sq. ft. is way better than 920. Edgy DC Dec 14 2008 05:11 PM I don't get the reference. *62 Dec 14 2008 05:39 PM I love Shea for lots of reasons, and will miss it some ..... but it's a dump. Better? Edgy DC Dec 14 2008 05:53 PM I thought those numbers referred to something. Rockin' Doc Dec 14 2008 06:57 PM I think *62 lives in Florida if my memory is correct. He apparently once lived in Brooklyn and apparently hung out at Shea quite a bit in the past. I think he was stating that he missed living in Brooklyn, but preferred the 3000 sq. ft. of living space he can now afford over the 920 sq. ft. of living space he had in Brooklyn. Living in the south and comparing costs for homes with my friends and relatives relatives that live near the city, I understand what he is referring too. Then again, maybe I miss interpreted the meaning of his post. Either way, it's nice to have *62 posting here again. I hope he hangs around. soupcan Dec 16 2008 01:42 PM StadiumPage.com Benjamin Grimm Dec 16 2008 02:04 PM It's amazing that just ten weeks ago it was still full of color and people and noise. soupcan Dec 18 2008 07:45 PM soupcan Dec 29 2008 07:51 AM soupcan Jan 05 2009 12:40 PM G-Fafif Jan 05 2009 12:52 PM Impressive Photoshopping, Soup. Quite interesting to see what Shea Stadium would look like if somebody went mad and started to tear it down. If it wouldn't be too much trouble, please put Shea back together again. Thank you. batmagadanleadoff Jan 05 2009 01:18 PM ="soupcan"]http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q308/soupcan11/shea5-1.jpg That neon batter just reminded me of Gary Carter' follow through, particularly the way Gary would take an inside pitch and line drive one-bounce it to the outfielder for a single. Are there any other Mets that the neon hitter resembles? Edgy DC Jan 05 2009 02:35 PM Looks kind of slender for Carter. It also looks like a guy going to right, while Carter more typically pulled. metirish Jan 13 2009 01:35 PM from 01/10/2009 metsguyinmichigan Jan 13 2009 02:35 PM They're not saving any of the neon players? I know they're huge. but heck, they could slice them up and sell them for $10 a foot to geeks like me! Zvon Jan 13 2009 02:58 PM ="metsguyinmichigan":8phckkps]They're not saving any of the neon players? I know they're huge. but heck, they could slice them up and sell them for $10 a foot to geeks like me![/quote:8phckkps] Why sell just their feet? John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 13 2009 04:19 PM wham G-Fafif Jan 13 2009 04:53 PM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":1virpusd]wham[/quote:1virpusd] "Wake Me Up Before You Go Go" vs. "Baby I'm Your Man" Whoops...wrong thread. metirish Jan 15 2009 08:00 AM Newsday today has a classic Shea pictures collection. Die-hard fans dance in the aisles at 1:50 a.m. during the 21st inning of a 25-inning marathon game between the Mets and the Cardinals at Shea Stadium. (AP Photo / September 12, 1974) A view of Shea Stadium during the national anthem before a New York Mets-Los Angeles Dodgers game in 1973. (AP Photo / June 9, 1973) Fans rush onto the field and players celebrate after the Mets defeated the Baltimore Orioles to win the 1969 World Series. (AP Photo / October 16, 1969 A view of Shea Stadium after after souvenir-hunting fans ripped up the sod following the Mets' victory in the 1969 World Series. (AP Photo / October 16, 1969) Pirates first baseman Willie Stargell waves to the crowd at Shea Stadium during Willie Stargell Night at Shea. The man at left wiping his eye is Nelson Doubleday, Mets chairman of the board. (Newsday / Paul J. Bereswill / September 27, 1982 The new owners of the Mets pose at Shea Stadium. From left: Stephen E. O'Neil, president of City Investing Company; Nelson Doubleday, president of Doubleday Co.; Fred Wilpon, Chairman of the Board of Sterling Equities and John O. Pickett, owner of the NHL New York Islanders, who was instrumental in setting up the sale of the team. Pickett was not listed as an owner of the club. (AP File Photo / January 25, 1980) Car fire involving several cars in the Shea Stadium parking lot during a game in 2002. (AP Photo / April 27, 2002) Workers Angelo DiMaria, left, and Dominico Bannezo clean off old paint and rust as they get Shea Stadium ready for Opening Day in 2001. (Newsdya / J. Conrad Williams Jr / March 28, 2001) > soupcan Jan 15 2009 08:09 AM Amazing how much Jeff looks like his dad used to. Even down to the bad hairdo. ="metirish"] Edgy DC Jan 15 2009 08:10 AM Car Fire Day: Best. Promotion. Ever. HahnSolo Jan 15 2009 08:36 AM I miss crazy old Uncle Nelson. soupcan Jan 15 2009 08:39 AM Pop Quiz - without looking it up, how much did Nelson & Jeff pay for the Mets in 1980. If I remember right, I think it was $20 million. Farmer Ted Jan 15 2009 08:45 AM I only recall $350 million or so to finally kick Doubleday to the curb in '02. Edgy DC Jan 15 2009 09:02 AM Who pitched on Car Fire Day? metirish Jan 15 2009 09:07 AM ="Edgy DC":kdd41i0v]Who pitched on Car Fire Day?[/quote:kdd41i0v] I remember that game , I should say I remember it from watching it on TV and the announcers talking about the fire in the parking lot and showing it. I'll guess that Steve Trachsel pitched . John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 15 2009 09:14 AM ="soupcan":sgwypaic]Pop Quiz - without looking it up, how much did Nelson & Jeff pay for the Mets in 1980. If I remember right, I think it was $20 million.[/quote:sgwypaic] For some reason $21 million is the number I remember but geez. Edgy DC Jan 15 2009 09:14 AM Pedro Pistacio took a no-hiiter into the seventh the day after a crisp one-hitter by Testes. It was game two of a three-game sweep over Milwaukee and, for a minute there, it looked like the 2002 Mets had scrapped together a winning rotation of Leiter-Estes-Astacio-D'Amico-Trachsel. That plan blew up in the parking lot like so many SUVs. Edgy DC Jan 15 2009 09:15 AM Is that logo stitched together? It acually looks like a giant shoulder patch. soupcan Jan 15 2009 09:16 AM D'Amico. I had high hopes for him. soupcan Jan 15 2009 09:17 AM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":esm8z809]For some reason $21 million is the number I remember but geez.[/quote:esm8z809] I think you're right. dgwphotography Jan 15 2009 11:19 AM ="batmagadanleadoff"] ="soupcan"] That neon batter just reminded me of Gary Carter' follow through, particularly the way Gary would take an inside pitch and line drive one-bounce it to the outfielder for a single. Are there any other Mets that the neon hitter resembles? flip it around, and it's Mex. attgig Jan 15 2009 12:16 PM ="metirish"] Fans rush onto the field and players celebrate after the Mets defeated the Baltimore Orioles to win the 1969 World Series. (AP Photo / October 16, 1969 > i wonder if that will ever be allowed in pro sports. when did that stop? it's only on college that you see fans rushing the field. why is that? Edgy DC Jan 15 2009 12:19 PM Because student athletes don't need/demand protection from the masses the way millionnaire atheletes do. Why is the cop screening home plate doing the time warp? metirish Jan 15 2009 12:23 PM How about the guy down the RF line jumping from the stands? Benjamin Grimm Jan 15 2009 12:23 PM I think it stopped in 1986, at least in New York. The fans rushed the field after the division clincher, but the mounted cops prevented it in the World Series. I think, though, that the Phillies had the cops on horseback for the 1980 World Series. John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 17 2009 12:20 PM I went out there this morning, photos on facebook. Here's a vid shot as the 7 train arrives in Willets Pt. metirish Jan 17 2009 01:59 PM Great pictures btw. soupcan Jan 18 2009 01:53 PM These are from baseballfever... Kong76 Jan 18 2009 02:08 PM Even dollar cost averaging down to ~ 7 1/2, that sums up my Citigroup stock feelings. I've been somewhat unaffected by most of the images, but this one is particularly eerie to me: Kong76 Jan 18 2009 02:10 PM I know the home opener is late this year, but are they really gonna have the ol' girl completely gone by then and a parking lot installed? I thought they'd be more far along. Benjamin Grimm Jan 18 2009 03:30 PM I'm not sure they have to. The existing parking lot served Shea for the last few years, and Shea held more fans than Citi will. Kong76 Jan 18 2009 03:37 PM I don't mean they have to, I just thought that was the plan. Since groundbreaking, parking there has been a pain in the neck and I took the train mostly to games. I like to tailgate, plan on doing it a lot this year, and it's easier to do with a car. John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 18 2009 04:26 PM ="Kong76":3gm6qt5k]I know the home opener is late this year, but are they really gonna have the ol' girl completely gone by then and a parking lot installed? I thought they'd be more far along.[/quote:3gm6qt5k] Official plan is the last bits of Shea are to be disappeared by June 30. Those photos put mine to shame! metirish Jan 23 2009 02:23 PM Vince Coleman Firecracker Jan 23 2009 02:43 PM An auto body shop in a Quonset hut. Fantastic. Willets Point Jan 23 2009 02:44 PM I've got dibs on "City * Field * Collision" as my band's name. Frayed Knot Jan 24 2009 11:28 AM The ends of the horseshoe are starting to disappear http://www.wfan.com/pages/3706726.php?imageGalleryXRefId=907755#imgXR http://www.wfan.com/pages/3706726.php?imageGalleryXRefId=907756#imgXR G-Fafif Jan 24 2009 11:53 AM It's a stump, but it's our stump. dgwphotography Jan 24 2009 01:07 PM soupcan Jan 26 2009 12:33 PM More at stadiumpage.com Frayed Knot Jan 26 2009 12:56 PM btw, Harvey Araton tees off the Yanx in a piece in Sunday's NYTimes. Specifically it's the sweet time they're taking in getting rid of the old park even though the new one is nearly finished and that the whole deal was based on trading stadium space for park land, park land that now seems destined for 2011 at the earliest. Their answer as to when they'll get around to even starting deconstruction is essentially "when we fuckin' get around to it - now go away and stop bothering us", even as they had no problem making a public spectacle about marching their offices across to the new digs the street last week. "Mayor Bloomberg, tear down this stadium" metirish Jan 26 2009 01:16 PM The arrogance of all involved is sickening , how I despise all things Yankees. SteveJRogers Jan 26 2009 02:14 PM Supposedly they are going to use YSII for a movie production, plus the plan was that either the Mets or Yankees would use YSII to play games if either Citi Field or YSIII weren't ready come April. So despite the arrogance, there really are valid reasons why it is still up. Frayed Knot Jan 26 2009 02:36 PM Even if using YSII was the on-paper 'just-in-case' backup plan in the event that some wild mishap went on with the construction of either of the new stadiums the virtually ZERO chance such a plan would ever be put into place has now shrunk to roughly that of the Lions being put into next week's Super Bowl were a case of bubonic plague to sweep through either the Steeler or Cardinal camp. And, as the article mentions, they've yet to even select a company that would do the deconstruction or set a date as to when it might start. So the reason it's not only still up but will be so for at least another year has everything to do with the fact that they haven't finished milking the old girl for every cent she's worth and if that means that the city that just re-re-issued more tax-free bonds as the price climbed over a billion dollars and the local kids in the neighborhood they claim to care so much for (whenever they weren't threatening to leave that is) go without a public park for the next few years well then that's none of their damn business. metirish Jan 28 2009 08:10 PM New York Times ] In Dead of Winter, Shea Stadium Is Melting Away By KEN BELSON Published: January 28, 2009 With each passing day, Shea Stadium, the home of the Mets since 1964, fades further from Citi Field, the team�s new home. In the last few weeks, demolition crews have been ripping down entire sections of Shea from both ends of the outfield decks toward its middle. What was once a semi-enclosed bowl with 57,000 seats is now a skeleton of a grandstand. In the first weeks after the Mets finished their final season at Shea (with another desultory loss that knocked them out of playoff contention), crews removed the seats, signs and anything else that could be sold to collectors or reused in city parks. Then demolition crews started knocking out the field level and the concrete decks that made up the loge and the mezzanine. But the structure of the stadium, built for nearly $30 million, was largely intact. Not so anymore. Since the beginning of the year, crews have clawed away at Shea�s walls and beams, exposing escalators, elevator banks and air ducts. The stands above Gates A and E have vanished and parts of the neon players that adorned the outside of the stadium are gone, too. Twelve sections of the upper deck still have their concrete floors, but the other sections that remain are outlined only by their steel beams. Unlike stadiums in other cities that have been imploded, Shea had to be taken down piece by piece because of building codes. The rat-a-tat-tat of the construction machinery drowned out the noise of the jets taking off from LaGuardia Airport. Tarps on chain link fences say �Almost Home,� a reference to the soon-to-be-opened Citi Field, but also the six-month process of erasing Shea. In all, nearly 10,000 tons of steel and another 2,500 tons of concrete will be pulled out of Shea. Some of the concrete will be ground up and reused as the base material for the parking lot that will be installed in its place. The lot will include space for 2,000 cars and signs marking where home plate and the pitcher�s mound once were. Team representatives said that the demolition will be completed some time in the coming weeks, which is not hard to imagine. On Wednesday, lines of dump trucks made their way onto what was once the outfield, weaving around piles of crumpled metal and concrete covered in snow. Several Web sites have sprung up that have chronicled the destruction of the place where Seaver once threw, Piazza once squatted and the Stork, George Theodore, once roamed. In a way, the sites are a testament to the morbid curiosity of Mets fans, who have endured many morbid Mets teams. �It�s interesting how they are doing it piece by piece,� said Eric Okurowski, a 31-year master�s candidate and a life-long Met fan from Babylon, N.Y., who runs stadiumpage.com. �Most old stadia are blown up and it takes just a few seconds. It�s pretty interesting seeing it come apart in pieces over the course of four months.� Okurowski and several other die-hard fans are organizing a final farewell at Shea at noon Saturday to share stories and take photographs of what is left of the ballpark. As Shea diminishes, Citi Field emerges. While less imposing than Shea, the new stadium, at least from the outside, has an elegance that Shea lacked. Instead of the lattice of concrete ramps that constituted Shea�s exterior, Citi Field is covered in brick and punctuated with arches and an entrance rotunda. Flood lights highlight the outside while klieg lights illuminate what is left of Shea. More Articles in Sports �A version of this article appeared in print on January 29, 2009, on page B18 of the New York edition. apmorris Jan 29 2009 04:58 PM ="metirish"]New York Times ] Okurowski and several other die-hard fans are organizing a final farewell at Shea at noon Saturday to share stories and take photographs of what is left of the ballpark. Anyone going? (bring a camera) metirish Jan 29 2009 05:28 PM People are going http://www.faithandfearinflushing.com/ G-Fafif Jan 30 2009 03:38 PM Damn, dirty apes... apmorris Jan 30 2009 04:43 PM ="G-Fafif"]Damn, dirty apes... Awesomenessness Kong76 Jan 30 2009 07:24 PM Classic pic. dgwphotography Jan 31 2009 05:41 AM that's just brilliant. Benjamin Grimm Jan 31 2009 05:44 AM That really is brilliant. metirish Jan 31 2009 05:47 AM Yeah it's very clever. themetfairy Jan 31 2009 06:19 AM It's just a model.... batmagadanleadoff Jan 31 2009 04:06 PM I'm guessing that the picture has something to do with the Statue Liberty finale in Planet of.... But that picture never came up on my browser. Not today. Not yesterday. Benjamin Grimm Jan 31 2009 04:14 PM Me neither. I had to right click, select "Copy Location" and paste the following in my browser: http://faithandfear.blogharbor.com/_photos/heston.jpg Edgy DC Feb 02 2009 07:05 AM You MANIACS! soupcan Feb 05 2009 07:11 AM From stadiumpage.com Just a matter of time now.... Benjamin Grimm Feb 05 2009 08:06 AM It's starting to look more like the grandstand you'd see at a race track. Frayed Knot Feb 05 2009 08:11 AM Never can say goodbye No no no no, I Never can say goodbye Even though the pain and heartache Seems to follow me wherever I go Though I try and try to hide my feelings They always seem to show Then you try to say you're leaving me And I always have to say no... Tell me why Is it so That I ... Never can say goodbye No no no no, I Never can say goodbye Evertime I think I had enough I start heading for the door There's a very strange vibration That pierces me right to the core It says turn around you fool You know you love her more and more Tell me why Is it so Don't wanna let yo go I never can say goodbye soupcan Feb 06 2009 10:55 AM These are from wcbs880.com. And there are a few more there as well. G-Fafif Feb 08 2009 03:10 PM Shea among the ruins... Kong76 Feb 08 2009 03:47 PM I called KB over and asked if she wanted to see an eerie picture on my laptop and she saw this and started bawling. "That's all that's left? When was that picture taken?" "Uh, I guess last time it snowed." ... (I'm obnoxious in real life too) and I told her this is like a 25 page thread of the destruction of Shea and we started talking about our Moms and games and tailgates and she got me all throaty too and crying and screw you all but ok I admit that it's hard to see the old thing disappear and I've been suppressing the sadness. There, I said it. dgwphotography Feb 09 2009 07:41 AM the first time we go there this year will be a shock. Edgy DC Feb 09 2009 07:50 AM We should go and have a tribute concert in the parking lot. G-Fafif Feb 09 2009 10:37 AM ="Kong76":1akaid2f]I called KB over and asked if she wanted to see an eerie picture on my laptop and she saw this and started bawling.[/quote:1akaid2f] My wife, who worked downtown throughout the fall of 2001, invoked Ground Zero in terms of what it reminded her of looking at. soupcan Feb 13 2009 10:09 AM Another from baseballfever.com metirish Feb 13 2009 10:27 AM Great pictures over there...taken this morning from the #7 train Benjamin Grimm Feb 13 2009 10:48 AM They should leave that last chunk in place. smg58 Feb 13 2009 12:34 PM I drove past it the other day. It's really sad to see it. soupcan Feb 14 2009 07:21 AM I'm at LaGuardia waiting for a flight. Drove past Citi and Shea. Shea looks so sad and insignificant. I'm excited and wistful at the same time. cooby Feb 14 2009 08:22 AM Please, check for ice and geese. Not joking. soupcan Feb 14 2009 08:38 AM We're flying Continental - what could go wrong? dgwphotography Feb 14 2009 09:44 AM ="metirish"] It's fitting that that's the last piece left... Frayed Knot Feb 14 2009 09:49 AM Think of it as an image of Koosman throwing the final pitch of the '69 WS. It could be Orosco/'86 too but it looks more like Koosman. dgwphotography Feb 14 2009 09:51 AM hmmmm.... I always saw Matlack in that image... dgwphotography Feb 14 2009 09:57 AM ="Iubitul"]hmmmm.... I always saw Matlack in that image... Actually, no. Bob Ojeda. SteveJRogers Feb 14 2009 11:49 AM ="Iubitul"] ="Iubitul"]hmmmm.... I always saw Matlack in that image... Actually, no. Bob Ojeda. What is that watermark on the other side of the card top? A Boy Named Seo Feb 14 2009 11:58 AM ="metirish"]Great pictures over there...taken this morning from the #7 train Nice pic, Irish. Poor, little Shea getting swallowed up by Citi on both sides. Kong76 Feb 15 2009 01:46 PM We took a ride out there today. We packed up a camera, a couple of Heineken keg cans (KB drove) and set out. I was kind of emotional getting ready but by the time we were in the car and on our way I was kinda excited. There were a bunch of people milling about doing the same thing we were and while I didn't talk to anyone we all smiled and nodded to each other like we got it. What we really should have done was cooked a few hot dogs one more time but the beer was enough I guess to count as a tailgate of sorts. The pictures posted all over the internet get redundant after awhile I suppose, but I got a few unique images. metirish Feb 15 2009 02:20 PM Great pictures , thanks. themetfairy Feb 15 2009 03:08 PM Nice shots Kase! LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Feb 15 2009 05:20 PM Thanks, sir. Beautiful and gut-wrenching. (All in all, this offseason's been like a months-long wake... except one where the guests take parts of the deceased with them as souvenirs.) A Boy Named Seo Feb 15 2009 05:30 PM Great shots, man. Love the one of you raising your can of Heiny in salutation. holychicken Feb 15 2009 05:49 PM Whoa, crazy, KC. I was there today too and took some very similar pictures. I was the jackass with my little brown dog off the leash. He was very happy to be out running about like that. Edgy DC Feb 15 2009 06:01 PM Should have a concert out there. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Feb 15 2009 06:05 PM Or an Irish wake? -Loading up on Jameson fifths/Cueing up "Body of an American" on the iPods. Kong76 Feb 15 2009 06:13 PM holyc: I was the jackass with my little brown dog off the leash <<< I didn't see any little brown pups running about. It's funny, but I really thought I'd run into at least one Mets' fan I knew out there. Running into you woulda been cool and we coulda done a Heiny. holychicken Feb 15 2009 07:42 PM Yeah, I figured there would be no one there but the when I saw the number of people there I figured I would see someone I knew. I checked everyone saw there, but didn't recognize anyone as well. I figured my dog would have stuck out tho more than me DocTee Feb 15 2009 08:27 PM Cool pics, thanks for sharing them. Did you pour some of that Heiny on the ground, ghetto style, to remember Shea, your fallen friend? Kong76 Feb 16 2009 01:11 PM Tee: Did you pour some of that Heiny on the ground <<< I have to confess that I did deposit some used Heiny behind some construction materials. Edgy DC Feb 16 2009 01:13 PM I'm going to guess you haven't puked at Shea since October 12, 1982. Kong76 Feb 16 2009 06:24 PM I had to google the date but I didn't yak that night. John Cougar Lunchbucket Feb 17 2009 09:25 AM Nice shotz guys. ah, screw it. Zvon Feb 17 2009 12:28 PM ="SteveJRogers"] ="Iubitul"] ="Iubitul"]hmmmm.... I always saw Matlack in that image... Actually, no. Bob Ojeda. What is that watermark on the other side of the card top? That's the Desert Storm logo/thing they added to sets of cards for the troops overseas back in the day. themetfairy Feb 17 2009 02:00 PM Zvon! How have you been? attgig Feb 17 2009 03:53 PM http://twitpic.com/photos/bluenautica one last piece remaining. Frayed Knot Feb 18 2009 11:14 AM Last piece down (video available via Newsday's main sports page) It's all over but the sweeping. soupcan Feb 24 2009 08:02 AM These I guess are almost a week old. From http://www.stadiumpage.com Edgy DC Feb 24 2009 08:14 AM To heck with your copyright, Gary. soupcan Feb 24 2009 08:32 AM 'Zactly. Zvon Feb 24 2009 02:38 PM ="Edgy DC":33njl1ow]To heck with your copyright, Gary.[/quote:33njl1ow] I'll photoshop that out. Shhhh. holychicken Feb 24 2009 03:59 PM ="Zvon":13ygrx4a] ="Edgy DC":13ygrx4a]To heck with your copyright, Gary.[/quote:13ygrx4a] I'll photoshop that out. Shhhh.[/quote:13ygrx4a] Simple crop job ought to do. Edgy DC Mar 16 2009 02:56 PM Mini-Shea ripped up from the ground. http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/03/16/you-too-can-own-a-piece-of-the-mini-city/ Farmer Ted Mar 16 2009 03:14 PM They couldn't save those two satellite dishes? Coulda saved me a few bucks with DirecTV.

[Frayed Knot]

The more I read this board the more I realize that virtually everyone knows and cares about uniforms A LOT more than I do.

[stevejrogers]

="seawolf17":19bd7ajf]What "pure 90s" Mets would you have wanted there? Bonilla? Jeff Kent? Vince Coleman? Those teams kinda sucked. Maybe Bernard Gilkey or Charlie O would have been cool. I'd vote for Pete Harnisch, but that's just my personal bias.[/quote:19bd7ajf] Hmmm, not saying I'd want them there, just saying it is odd to see Franco as a representative of the 1998-2001 Mets with Piazza, Zeile, Leiter, Ventura and Alfonzo. Granted he was there, and was the "captain" but I prefer remembering Franco with his # 31 jersey during the "Worst Team Money Can Buy" era. Put it this way, it would be exactly like seeing Kranepool in a replica of his 1979 home jersey out there. Just doesn't seem right even though he was there.

SteveJRogers Sep 30 2008 08:52 PM

="batmagadanleadoff":3fgsp7nc] ="SteveJRogers":3fgsp7nc] ="batmagadanleadoff":3fgsp7nc]Franco debuted as a Met in 1990. Why would he wear an '86 jersey? Do you think that the actual '86 Mets would want this? This makes no sense.[/quote:3fgsp7nc] 1986 style, eh save for the change in pullover to button down and stitched on lettering instead of a nameplate for the NOB [/quote:3fgsp7nc] You forgot the anniversary patch the 86 Mets wore. That's what mainly distinguished the 86 uni from the 90 uni. You're right about the stitched on lettering, though. If you wanna get hyper technical, the 1990 unis had the Rawlings logo on the right sleeve. The 86 unis had no Mfr. logo on the sleeves.[/quote:3fgsp7nc] I didn't notice that the versions of the unis the 86ers were wearing out there had the actual 1986 jersey patch. Course they could have been wearing what they got (except for Doc of course) back in 2006, but the point was more the same style THAT the 1986ers were wearing at the ceremony. Not an actual 1986 Franco # 31 jersey that obviously only would be a Cincy Red jersey! batmagadanleadoff Sep 30 2008 08:57 PM The 86 Mets had the anniversary patch, and what appears to be a Majestic Mfr. Logo. The real 86 unis were manufactured by Rawlings; the sleeves were logoless. Mitchell & Ness made the flannelly '60's unis for Shea Goodbye. Apparently, more than one mfr. was involved in producing the various retro jerseys. AG/DC Sep 30 2008 09:21 PM Pure 90s Mets I salute: Rico Brogna Eddie Murray Todd Hundley, I guess Jose Vizcaino Jeff Kent Mlicki Manzanillo Yoshii While I'm in Japan, I salute Takashi Kashiwada, the man who opened Asia to the Mets. Know who'd be a cool invite (and maybe the Countdown Like It Oughta Be thought of this)? Steve Chilcott. themetfairy Oct 01 2008 02:24 AM Here are some pictures from Ralph Kiner Night (July 14, 2007). The view of Citi Field from the Shea tunnel near Gate E - Fans arriving from the subway - Citi Field rising behind Shea - themetfairy Oct 01 2008 02:27 AM Between the old and the new, before the September 14, 2008 Mr. Met Dash - themetfairy Oct 01 2008 06:07 AM This is an old photo. How old? Pre-MiniKnight old - the kid in the backpack is his older brother, who is now significantly taller than I am, and the little girl is now off to college. Oh, and that's me in the middle. In 1994 the Mets entered into a deal that included the installation of Nickelodeon's Extreme Baseball at Shea mini theme park just beyond right field. Living in the City with a 4-year-old and a toddler, ya gotta believe we made a lot of trips to that park. We were there for its opening, due to D-Dad's business connections, playing in the theme park along with some of the Mets who checked it out before that night's game (the only mar in that incredibly fun evening was the news that Dwight Gooden had entered rehab for the second time). When our planned baseball birthday party for our daughter at Shea (yes - there was a time in her life when she was actually into that kind of thing and didn't wince at the thought of baseball) was unworkable due to the strike, we amended the plan and had her party at the Nickelodeon park (for those of you who remember what Nickelodeon was into back then, you'll be amused to know that I was slimed. Slime is kind of like green vanilla pudding with an odd consistency...). This picture, though, was taken at a more routine time. We were at the park one afternoon (possibly 4th of July) and took a tour of Shea that included the clubhouse and the field. The kids and I sat in the Mets dugout while D-Dad took this picture. I generally hate having my picture taken, but this was an occasion that was worthy of an exception - themetfairy Oct 01 2008 06:12 AM This is a picture that iubitul took. D-Dad, a couple of friends and I had just completed the Run to Home Plate. We're in the Shea outfield, and the picture was taken above from the Picnic Area - (Psst - iubitul - did you ever scan the other photos from that day? There are a couple that would be fun to post if you did). G-Fafif Oct 01 2008 06:19 AM Not a photo-related comment but regarding invitees, Todd Hundley did receive a shoutout from Howie Rose when he ran down the list of those who couldn't be with us today. I was struck that the mostly dismal 1991-1996 Mets were represented by John Franco and nobody else, essentially. HoJo, Sid and Doc played on those teams, but aren't associated with them. Fonzie came up in '95, but he is a part of the postseason teams that came later in the mind's eye. So is Franco, I guess. Only because they went to the trouble of tracking down Doug Flynn, Craig Swan and John Stearns (and Mazzilli, I suppose, though he has '86 bona fides), did I get a little hung up on there not being a Rico Brogna (good fit, I hear), a Lance Johnson, or, as suggested, the Anthony Young. themetfairy Oct 01 2008 06:19 AM MK hanging out with some friends during a Mets Fan Club for Kids clinic. I think this was in 2005 - themetfairy Oct 01 2008 06:39 AM On the day I bought my good camera, I took this shot of David Wright connecting for a homer - Time will tell whether this was beginner's luck, but I'm happy with the shot. Benjamin Grimm Oct 01 2008 07:19 AM ="G-Fafif":2bw2zl3t]Not a photo-related comment but regarding invitees, Todd Hundley did receive a shoutout from Howie Rose when he ran down the list of those who couldn't be with us today. I was struck that the mostly dismal 1991-1996 Mets were represented by John Franco and nobody else, essentially. HoJo, Sid and Doc played on those teams, but aren't associated with them. Fonzie came up in '95, but he is a part of the postseason teams that came later in the mind's eye. So is Franco, I guess. Only because they went to the trouble of tracking down Doug Flynn, Craig Swan and John Stearns (and Mazzilli, I suppose, though he has '86 bona fides), did I get a little hung up on there not being a Rico Brogna (good fit, I hear), a Lance Johnson, or, as suggested, the Anthony Young.[/quote:2bw2zl3t] I was thinking along similar lines this morning in the car. There weren't many players present whose careers were strictly in the lean years and the in-between years. There were a few guys from the 1960's, like Frank Thomas, and 70's guys like Flynn, Swan, Stearns, and Kingman, but overall, very few of the returnees were guys who didn't appear in a World Series for the Mets. batmagadanleadoff Oct 01 2008 09:50 AM ="G-Fafif":1bl0kw4g]Only because they went to the trouble of tracking down Doug Flynn, Craig Swan and John Stearns (and Mazzilli, I suppose, though he has '86 bona fides), did I get a little hung up on there not being a Rico Brogna (good fit, I hear), a Lance Johnson, or, as suggested, the Anthony Young.[/quote:1bl0kw4g] Though I would've liked to see Anthony Young walk onto the Shea field last Sunday, as I already mentioned, I did not reasonably expect to see him. Until George Theodore was announced. Once The Stork was delivered, I thought that anything was possible and that everyone was in play. But not Bobby Bonilla. G-Fafif Oct 01 2008 10:05 AM ="batmagadanleadoff":36rnfjz9] ="G-Fafif":36rnfjz9]Only because they went to the trouble of tracking down Doug Flynn, Craig Swan and John Stearns (and Mazzilli, I suppose, though he has '86 bona fides), did I get a little hung up on there not being a Rico Brogna (good fit, I hear), a Lance Johnson, or, as suggested, the Anthony Young.[/quote:36rnfjz9] Though I would've liked to see Anthony Young walk onto the Shea field last Sunday, as I already mentioned, I did not reasonably expect to see him. Until George Theodore was announced. Once The Stork was delivered, I thought that anything was possible and that everyone was in play. But not Bobby Bonilla.[/quote:36rnfjz9] Shea Amnesty could have been the theme and everybody but Vince Coleman could have been welcomed and absolved. I could have applauded Bonilla. I could have applauded Alomar. I could have applauded Hebner just for old times' sake. I think, if sufficiently intoxicated, I could have applauded Glavine. But not Vince Coleman. A.Y., however, needed no amnesty. He was always treated well amid the disaster that went down around him. It would have been a classy Storklike move. themetfairy Oct 01 2008 02:26 PM MiniKnight's first game at Shea - I love how D-Dad caught Mr. Met's pixelated image smiling and waving on the scoreboard in the background. metsguyinmichigan Oct 01 2008 08:40 PM That's Mr. Met bestowing his blessing! Awesome shot! themetfairy Oct 01 2008 09:01 PM D-Dad says thanks soupcan Oct 02 2008 08:58 AM Not a Shea photo per se but still... I was looking through a box of crap in my attic and came across a Mets scorecard from 1985. I thought 'how cool would it be if this was from opening day and I actually scored it?'. I opened it up and guess what - it was and I did. Surprising to me because that opener I drove down from Syracuse with about 6-7 fraternity brothers and sat in the bitter cold of the upper deck. I'm sure I was drunk and my hands were frozen. In those days though I did score pretty much every game I went to. I checked UMDB against my log and I didn't do a half-bad job... Heep appears in the boxscore but not on my card, until you look closer - In the 7th it appears Heep was announced but I suppose Whitey replaced Campbell with Hassler for the lefty/righty thing so John Christensen took the AB. You can see that I wrote Heep's name but then crossed it out. Why was Davey PH-ing Heep for Straw though? Game was tied 5-5 men on first and second 2 out. What am I not seeing or remembering? Also - Note that Staub pinch-hit in the 9th and Darling ran for him. John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 02 2008 09:10 AM Holy shit, nice handwriting. Are you an architect? soupcan Oct 02 2008 09:11 AM Oh gosh really? Thanks. Its usually much neater, I was kind of embarassed to post it because I thought it was pretty sloppy. Not an architect but an illustrator in a previous life. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 09:13 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 02 2008 09:15 AM Strawberry opened the 1985 season hurt. His opening day start was in question and he did not play at all in the Mets next game. He missed a significant amount of playing time in 1985 to injuries. May I ask what frat you belonged to? Centerfield Oct 02 2008 09:13 AM ="themetfairy"]MiniKnight's first game at Shea - I love how D-Dad caught Mr. Met's pixelated image smiling and waving on the scoreboard in the background. That's amazing. MK already looks like himself. Not sure if that made any sense. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 09:17 AM How come my post above displays a "last edited" note even though this is the very next post? soupcan Oct 02 2008 09:19 AM ="batmagadanleadoff"]May I ask what frat you belonged to? Thanks for the Strawberry answer. HahnSolo Oct 02 2008 09:21 AM ="soupcan":3uc7yjo2] In those days though I did score pretty much every game I went to.[/quote:3uc7yjo2] You scored in the Shea upper deck? I should hang out at more games with you. metirish Oct 02 2008 09:24 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 02 2008 09:25 AM Brilliant posts from metfairy and soup...MF , the Mets cap looks over sized....what happened? Great score card soup , I scored my first game ever this season, in the second to last row up top behind home plate. It didn't look anything like yours though... soupcan Oct 02 2008 09:24 AM ="HahnSolo":2y3lkhxq]You scored in the Shea upper deck? I should hang out at more games with you.[/quote:2y3lkhxq] It was a looooong time ago. Its in me but its been hibernating for a while. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 09:29 AM ="soupcan":3jnfvsp6]Thanks for the Strawberry answer.[/quote:3jnfvsp6] That's on Comstock, with a lot of other frat houses, right? Did you see my Sherman Douglas post[/url:3jnfvsp6] from a few days ago? soupcan Oct 02 2008 09:32 AM Yup. 721 Comstock to be exact. I did see the Douglas post, you were right. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 09:33 AM Back on topic. Frayed Knot Oct 02 2008 09:34 AM ="batmagadanleadoff"]Strawberry opened the 1985 season hurt. His opening day start was in question and he did not play at all in the Mets next game. He missed a significant amount of playing time in 1985 to injuries. Most of his missed time was on account of when he rolled over on his thumb making a catch in a game I was at - in mid-May I think it was. ]How come my post above displays a "last edited" note even though this is the very next post? All that means is that you edited something in that post after the thread was active again. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 09:39 AM ="Frayed Knot":nd2dud0e] ="batmagadanleadoff":nd2dud0e]Strawberry opened the 1985 season hurt. His opening day start was in question and he did not play at all in the Mets next game. He missed a significant amount of playing time in 1985 to injuries.[/quote:nd2dud0e] Most of his missed time was on account of when he rolled over on his thumb making a catch in a game I was at - in mid-May I think it was. [/quote:nd2dud0e] You're right. But he opened the season with a nagging injury as well. I have the video of that complete game. I'll try and find it but it may take me a while, because I haven't converted that tape to disc. My old VHS's are a disorganized mess. dgwphotography Oct 02 2008 09:43 AM Soup - that's great stuff. I was sitting down underneath in the loge that day. Freaking Hernandez - strikes out in a big spot leading off the top of the 10th. So unclutch. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 09:49 AM ="Frayed Knot":itaev3d1]All that means is that you edited something in that post after the thread was active again.[/quote:itaev3d1] What do you mean by "thread was active again"? Based on experience, I thought that the "last edited" notation was activated only if the post was edited after someone else posted a subsequent message. soupcan Oct 02 2008 09:55 AM ="batmagadanleadoff":2of6od08]What do you mean by "thread was active again"? Based on experience, I thought that the "last edited" notation was activated only if the post was edited after someone else posted a subsequent message.[/quote:2of6od08] You edited at 11:15. CF posted at 11:13. OE: No, I'm wrong. That's weird. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 10:01 AM ="soupcan":3pdd5j9f] ="batmagadanleadoff":3pdd5j9f]What do you mean by "thread was active again"? Based on experience, I thought that the "last edited" notation was activated only if the post was edited after someone else posted a subsequent message.[/quote:3pdd5j9f] You edited at 11:15. CF posted at 11:13[/quote:3pdd5j9f] I dunno about that. When I originally posted that message, it appeared after CF's post. Why would my subsequent minute later edit appear based on an unedited post showing prior to my post, and thus, prior to my edit? batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 10:02 AM ="soupcan":2yeh8i49]OE: No, I'm wrong. That's weird.[/quote:2yeh8i49] Now you get it. themetfairy Oct 02 2008 10:38 AM ="Centerfield"] ="themetfairy"]MiniKnight's first game at Shea - I love how D-Dad caught Mr. Met's pixelated image smiling and waving on the scoreboard in the background. That's amazing. MK already looks like himself. Not sure if that made any sense. It makes sense. He's recognizable, even at three weeks old. Irish - I'm not sure what was up with the hat. That soon after a C-section I thought I was doing well getting dressed at all seawolf17 Oct 02 2008 12:03 PM Actually, as long as the message has been read at least once, then it gets the "edited" tag. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 02:26 PM ="seawolf17":neearbs2]Actually, as long as the message has been read at least once, then it gets the "edited" tag.[/quote:neearbs2] I'm not convinced because I know for sure that on occasion, I have edited some of my messages as much as a day after posting them. So long as my message in question was always the last one in the thread, the "last edited" note was never triggered. I know that others read the post after it was posted but prior to my edit based on the page view count. So based on my personal use, merely reading a post wouldn't be enough to trigger the edited notation if that post was ever to be edited. AG/DC Oct 02 2008 02:31 PM How about if somebody else had already hit the response button, even if they hadn't submitted? Frayed Knot Oct 02 2008 02:34 PM I think the mods should just confess that they're monitoring all of BatMags movements and activities. Nothing personal mind you, just be careful what you say in the bathroom. You never know who's listening. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 02:47 PM ="Frayed Knot":1klmkujp]I think the mods should just confess that they're monitoring all of BatMags movements and activities. Nothing personal mind you, just be careful what you say in the bathroom. You never know who's listening.[/quote:1klmkujp] That's what I always thought. Do you know that my avatar disappeared mysteriously? And that the feature that would allow me to simply submit another avatar is missing from my control panel or whatever it's called? What do you make of that, huh? dgwphotography Oct 02 2008 02:55 PM I don't remember if I've posted this one before: Fireworks Night, July 3, 2006: soupcan Oct 02 2008 03:02 PM Wow. cooby Oct 02 2008 03:37 PM ="soupcan":1twkt7gk] In those days though I did score pretty much every game I went to.[/quote:1twkt7gk] HAHAHAH, I am sure though that by now somebody else has already beaten me to this line, I'll go back and look cooby Oct 02 2008 03:40 PM Yep! themetfairy Oct 02 2008 03:50 PM ="Iubitul":2bej8qlv]I don't remember if I've posted this one before: Fireworks Night, July 3, 2006: [/quote:2bej8qlv] Whether it's a rerun or not, it's gorgeous. soupcan Oct 02 2008 04:48 PM ="cooby":1hpi6tfp] ="soupcan":1hpi6tfp] In those days though I did score pretty much every game I went to.[/quote:1hpi6tfp] HAHAHAH, I am sure though that by now somebody else has already beaten me to this line, I'll go back and look[/quote:1hpi6tfp] DOH! I didn't realize HahnSolo was taking the piss! I'm a moron. metsguyinmichigan Oct 02 2008 07:27 PM ="themetfairy":2i6sr6pi] ="Iubitul":2i6sr6pi]I don't remember if I've posted this one before: Fireworks Night, July 3, 2006: [/quote:2i6sr6pi] Whether it's a rerun or not, it's gorgeous.[/quote:2i6sr6pi] Clearly you're too good at this for it to just be a hobby. Are you a professional? I'm just in awe. I snapped shots of some of the same small details that you did -- like the little NYs in the grates around the trees -- yet you picked a really cool, unconventional angle to shoot it. Beautiful and creative. dgwphotography Oct 03 2008 12:32 AM ="metsguyinmichigan"] Clearly you're too good at this for it to just be a hobby. Are you a professional? I'm just in awe. I snapped shots of some of the same small details that you did -- like the little NYs in the grates around the trees -- yet you picked a really cool, unconventional angle to shoot it. Beautiful and creative. Thanks metsguy. I'm not a professional, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night... Seriously, it's a hobby - I'm a web developer by trade. But, it's also a passion that centers me. I can have a completely lousy day at work, but if I get to spend 15 productive minutes behind my camera, I'm completely relaxed and centered... Here's a couple of oldies. Please ignore the quality - my film scanner isn't working, so I had to scan the prints on a flatbed... July 4, 1986 - Nolan Ryan pitching to Gary Carter: September 18, 1986 - The best part of this pic is Backman's expression. Hungover much? John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 03 2008 05:46 AM Just look how much better those old shots look without Keyspan signs, giant dunkin donuts cups, too-dark blue paint, etc etc. This thread is going to make me dig out what I can find, but I'll start with this classikc: batmagadanleadoff Oct 03 2008 08:24 AM ="Iubitul":1jek1hyd]I don't remember if I've posted this one before: Fireworks Night, July 3, 2006: [/quote:1jek1hyd] I was surprised to read that you're not a pro. Professional is the first word that came to my mind when I saw this beautiful picture of Shea with the fireworks. Where were you sitting (or standing) when you took the picture of Carter batting against Ryan? AG/DC Oct 03 2008 08:33 AM If I remember him describing that photo last year, he put his camera down, satisfied he got the shot he wanted, and noticed the Mets team photographer right next to him going for the same shot. seawolf17 Oct 03 2008 08:34 AM Lost in that shot is the kid in the Wright shirt, bottom right corner, watching the fireworks. A nice touch. dgwphotography Oct 03 2008 11:56 AM ="batmagadanleadoff":2duv67l2]Where were you sitting (or standing) when you took the picture of Carter batting against Ryan?[/quote:2duv67l2] Thanks :-) I was able to sneak down to the first row behind home plate - got a lot of good shots that were on KC's site. dgwphotography Oct 03 2008 12:04 PM ="AG/DC":1gfkczpr]If I remember him describing that photo last year, he put his camera down, satisfied he got the shot he wanted, and noticed the Mets team photographer right next to him going for the same shot.[/quote:1gfkczpr] That was the first time I shot the fireworks, back in 1990. They had a photo contest sponsored by Kodak every year - I had won in the memorabilia category in 1989, and had my picture in the 1990 yearbook. So, I had the idea to try and shoot the fireworks that July - that's when I ran into Marc Lavine. When the 1991 yearbook came, and I saw his fireworks shot on the cover, I knew there was no way that mine made it into the yearbook. There's a post script to that story: I ran into Marc again in 2006. I snuck around to behind home plate in loge to take pictures of Mike Pelfrey in his ML debut. Marc was standing in the walkway right next to me. A security guard came over and started giving Marc a hard time about standing there. I leaned over the railing and asked him, "What, doesn't he recognize you?" Gotta love the security at Shea. Kong76 Oct 03 2008 05:44 PM The old school stuff is still there if anyone wants to re-explore .... http://www.kcmets.com/DGWPhotography/photonew1.htm metsguyinmichigan Oct 03 2008 05:48 PM I love the wallpaper shot of Reyes as a B-Met! SteveJRogers Oct 03 2008 06:25 PM ="Iubitul":2lf7a8xg] They had a photo contest sponsored by Kodak every year - I had won in the memorabilia category in 1989, and had my picture in the 1990 yearbook.[/quote:2lf7a8xg] I'm shocked that a Nikonian like you would stoop so low as to enter a contest run by Kodak! = dgwphotography Oct 03 2008 06:43 PM ="SteveJRogers":38evkptp] ="Iubitul":38evkptp] They had a photo contest sponsored by Kodak every year - I had won in the memorabilia category in 1989, and had my picture in the 1990 yearbook.[/quote:38evkptp] I'm shocked that a Nikonian like you would stoop so low as to enter a contest run by Kodak! =[/quote:38evkptp] Film, Steve. Film. I loved Kodak 64 slide film. Actually, starting in 1995, Kodak offered the DCS460[/url:38evkptp]. It was a 6mp digital camera which used a Nikon N90s SLR for the body. soupcan Oct 03 2008 09:07 PM ="Iubitul":2hzt6uz2]That was the first time I shot the fireworks, back in 1990. They had a photo contest sponsored by Kodak every year - I had won in the memorabilia category in 1989, and had my picture in the 1990 yearbook. [/quote:2hzt6uz2] So I read this and flipped through my '90 yearbook - holy cow - is (was) all that stuff in the picture yours? G-Fafif Oct 04 2008 04:04 AM I ran back to the '90 yearbook as well and was quite impressed with the collection as well as the photograph. A copy of "Nails" even! I'll bet Lenny Dykstra never read it. dgwphotography Oct 04 2008 05:28 AM Thanks guys. Yes, all that stuff in the picture is mine, and that collection has only grown... Of course I have a copy of Nails, my wife was such a big Dykstra fan, she even, gulp, rooted for the Phillies for a while when he got traded... soupcan Oct 06 2008 07:57 AM Taken on Opening Day 1987... Notice that there are no neon players on Shea yet. Sorry about the quality - haven't figured out the best settings for photos on the scanner yet. metirish Oct 06 2008 08:06 AM Those are great pictures soup , maybe it's the contrast but it looks cold and bleak that day.Is that guy wearing a batting helmet? DocTee Oct 06 2008 08:07 AM If you hadn't told me those were from 1987, I'd ve guessed they were from a decade earlier (based on the vehicles in the parking lot). AG/DC Oct 06 2008 08:08 AM Old school. That's how Met fans roll. soupcan Oct 06 2008 08:15 AM ="metirish":1lvfa5e8]Those are great pictures soup , maybe it's the contrast but it looks cold and bleak that day.Is that guy wearing a batting helmet?[/quote:1lvfa5e8] Cold and bleak - yes. Batting helmet - yes. ="DocTee":1lvfa5e8]If you hadn't told me those were from 1987, I'd ve guessed they were from a decade earlier (based on the vehicles in the parking lot).[/quote:1lvfa5e8] I agree - isn't it funny how its always the cars in photos that give a person a sense of the age of the picture? ="AG/DC":1lvfa5e8]Old school. That's how Met fans roll.[/quote:1lvfa5e8] Damn skippy. soupcan Oct 06 2008 08:31 AM Notice no skyline on the scoreboard. Round cut-outs in foul territory on either side of the plate. Never knew what those were for until I watched a DVD of game 4 of the '69 Series. During player intros before the game, Cuellar was warming up in it, tossing from there. Can you see straw-hat, hand-rolling lady in the front row behind homeplate? That's before they added the additional VIP seats and effectively put her 10 or so rows back. What the heck's going on at second base? AG/DC Oct 06 2008 08:37 AM I like the life-size bendable plastic Keith Hernandez figure out there. Nothing says "dreary opening day" like Ralph Kiner walking alone through the shade in his raincoat. soupcan Oct 06 2008 09:06 AM You think that's Ralph? I was going to guess Cashen. metirish Oct 06 2008 09:07 AM I was thinking M. Donald Grant . soupcan Oct 06 2008 09:08 AM He was long gone by then. metirish Oct 06 2008 09:08 AM Of course he wasn't even with the mets then...never mind me. Actually I meant Nelson Doubleday but I'm still probably wrong. soupcan Oct 06 2008 09:23 AM That could be Nelson. I don't think his hair was completely white yet in '87. batmagadanleadoff Oct 06 2008 09:24 AM I think it's Cashen, though it's hard to tell. I don't think it's Kiner; that's not Ralph's way of walking. AG/DC Oct 06 2008 09:26 AM Funny, I think that's exactly what makes him look Kineriffic. Funnier still is that I doubt either of us has seen Kiner walk more than a handful of times, but we both have a distinctive impression. Among other reasons, I think it's Ralph because he appears to be coming from a press scrum. batmagadanleadoff Oct 06 2008 09:31 AM ="soupcan"]That could be Nelson. I don't think his hair was completely white yet in '87. Maybe not, but it was surely on its way. That was the first game back since Wilpon wrested away Nelson's controlling interest in the club. Straw and Keith went at each other that Spring. Doc was in Smithers and at age 22, would never be consistently great again. Backman's "forty fuckin' car crashes" was already proving prophetic figuratively, if not literally. John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 06 2008 09:41 AM I would guess Doubleday. themetfairy Oct 06 2008 09:50 AM A couple of pictures from the 1987 opener - Opening ceremonies - First Pitch - John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 06 2008 09:57 AM Check out skinny Barry soupcan Oct 06 2008 10:00 AM Nice ones Fairy. Apparently you had much better seats than me... AG/DC Oct 06 2008 10:00 AM I like the area around the apple hat, strewn with empty crates and lurking hoods. metirish Oct 06 2008 10:03 AM I like how metfairy's picture helps answer who the people out in center field are in the picture soup posted, kind of cool that two members can post similar pictures for the same opening day in 1987. Farmer Ted Oct 06 2008 10:09 AM Any photos of Banner Day in the archives? Those would a nice treat. themetfairy Oct 06 2008 10:11 AM ="soupcan":19xbemwi]Nice ones Fairy. Apparently you had much better seats than me...[/quote:19xbemwi] Thanks soup. I worked for a law firm in 1987. There were only two good things about the job. One was my office (Empire State Building, 49th Floor, southern view) and the other was that the firm had season tickets and one of the partners would occasionally offer two of the seats to D-Dad and me. themetfairy Oct 06 2008 11:23 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 06 2008 11:45 AM I went into the old photo albums to scan some pictures from 1994's Nickelodeon's Extreme Baseball at Shea experiment. These are from the VIP Opening Party on June 28, 1994. I have pictures of each of my kids at about age 2 with John Franco. This is the one with my older son - We wouldn't have wanted to try to wipe the smile off of Bobby Bo's face - Back in 1994, we had no reason to dislike Jose Vizcaino - themetfairy Oct 06 2008 11:25 AM July 4, 1994. I previously posted the picture of myself with the kids in the dugout. Here are some other photos from that day. From the stadium tour that we took that day - themetfairy Oct 06 2008 11:30 AM Those of you who know my daughter now will be shocked to hear that there was a time she actually rooted for the Mets. We planned to have her 5th birthday at a game at Shea, but the plans were changed on account of strike. We had the birthday at the Nickelodeon park instead. The birthday girl - Cute cake - If you remember Nickelodeon at the time, slime was a big thing. The birthday girl didn't want to be slimed herself, but wanted to slime her mom instead. Let it not be said that I've never done anything for that girl - metirish Oct 06 2008 11:41 AM Absolutely classic , the clothes the uniforms , the sunglasses , everything. We need a thread for classic Mets and Shea pictures like these. Benjamin Grimm Oct 06 2008 12:02 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 06 2008 12:04 PM .. Benjamin Grimm Oct 06 2008 12:03 PM I've been thinking of putting a Shea slideshow on the UMDB. I have a few pictures of my own of the "Shea experience" that I've taken over the last couple of years. Some with architectural details, some of fans crowding through the gates, etc. I've been meaning to ask for submissions of similar photos, and I guess this is as good a time and place as any to start. I'm more interested in "neutral" photos rather than those that feature smiling friends or family members. Some of the photos posted in this thread would be great for that. If anyone who's posted any photos objects to the pictures being used in this manner, please let me know. (I intend to specifically ask permission to use any of these before I actually do so.) A couple of weeks ago I created a prototype slide show. Take a peek if you like: http://www.leaptoad.com/mets/slidetest.php Some day there will be similar slideshows available to all visitors, and they'll have individual themes. Right now I'm slowly putting together one that will capture the events surrounding the final day at Shea Stadium. themetfairy Oct 06 2008 12:32 PM Nice slideshow BG. And I have no objection if you'd like to use any photo that I've posted on the UMDB metirish Oct 06 2008 12:34 PM I like the prototype, nice work. themetfairy Oct 06 2008 06:07 PM May 30, 1999 was a Beanie Babies giveaway day at Shea. I was writing for Mary Beth's Bean Bag World Magazine at the time, and i was able to get press credentials for the game. I was constantly expecting security to tap me on the shoulder and tell me that I didn't belong on the field, but they didn't. Here's my press pass - Diamond Vision - D-Dad took this shot of me from the Field Level - Olerud and the Shea Scoreboard - The Diamond Vision later, from the Upper Deck - Pictures of players to follow.... themetfairy Oct 06 2008 06:12 PM Most of the players were incredibly good sports about having their picture taken with the Beanie Baby du Jour. My big regret was not asking Bobby Valentine for a picture, A) because he would have; and it was a Valentina Beanie Baby. The only one who turned me down was Todd Pratt, but since he was signing autographs at the time I'll give him a pass on that. Rey Ordonez - Roger Cedeno (whose solo homer provided the Mets with their only run as they lost that day) - Edgardo Alfonzo - Mike Piazza (who not only posed for this picture, but graciously gave me a little blather quote for my article) - Benny Agbayani - Fman99 Oct 06 2008 08:08 PM Great pictures MetFairy. How awesome to see those guys being good sports. Man I loved that '99 squad. themetfairy Oct 06 2008 08:23 PM They were a great bunch, for sure. cooby Oct 06 2008 09:16 PM NICE seawolf17 Oct 07 2008 12:57 PM Funny photos. What a neat experience. themetfairy Oct 07 2008 01:41 PM Thanks. It was surreal, and very cool soupcan Oct 13 2008 07:27 AM No seats! AG/DC Oct 13 2008 07:44 AM Well, that one guy has a seat. I think we can take him. metsguyinmichigan Oct 13 2008 09:51 AM He's guarding the stop sign before the people from MeiGray come to pick it up for the auction. soupcan Oct 15 2008 08:46 PM Found these pictures in a thread at baseball fever... AG/DC Oct 15 2008 09:44 PM Agh. themetfairy Oct 16 2008 04:42 AM That one gave me a bad dream last night Benjamin Grimm Oct 16 2008 08:13 AM I found this one the most painful: metirish Oct 16 2008 08:14 AM Great pictures , thanks soup. AG/DC Oct 16 2008 08:24 AM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ut1H4o_ie8c metirish Oct 16 2008 08:50 AM Great song edgy , a blast form the past. dgwphotography Oct 16 2008 09:01 AM I think I'm going through the anger phase of mourning. I'm sure I'll come around, but right now, I just so angry over everything regarding the dismantling of Shea, and the move to his corporate playground. Through it all, I keep getting the feeling that Shea was ours, and CitiField belongs to him. Bastard. AG/DC Oct 16 2008 09:19 AM I don'think it's us against him when the vast majority of the fans and media supported the move. If so, it's a slender us. Farmer Ted Oct 16 2008 10:52 AM Painful. But ther new place will be a treat. themetfairy Oct 16 2008 11:06 AM The new place will be ours. We'll make it ours, dammit! G-Fafif Oct 16 2008 03:51 PM Tour[/url:24y3xk17] of Citi Field parking lot... metirish Oct 16 2008 06:05 PM Whats with the actual hole in the pitchers mound? Benjamin Grimm Oct 16 2008 06:53 PM I'm guessing there was something buried under the mound that they wanted to retrieve. I don't have a great guess as to what it was. My best guess is some kind of camera, but I don't recall seeing any mounds-eye views on any telecasts. soupcan Oct 16 2008 07:06 PM ="metirish":35vh26wx]Whats with the actual hole in the pitchers mound?[/quote:35vh26wx] I'm guessing that they dug up the pitching rubber - to sell it of course - and that hole is a result. dgwphotography Oct 16 2008 07:18 PM no - I think that was where the plumbing was for the hose they used to water down the infield.... soupcan Oct 17 2008 07:31 AM ="Iubitul"]no - I think that was where the plumbing was for the hose they used to water down the infield.... Makes more sense. Wonder how much they're selling that for Zvon Oct 19 2008 06:48 PM I didn't realize this til recently. I thought I was bummed at seasons end because the team failed to get to the post season. But being a Met fan for 40 years, this is really something I'm used to. For the team, there was/is always next year. But this was it for Shea.... This is what really bummed me out. That they couldn't get Shea to the post season one more time. That would have been the way send her off. Great pictures here posted by all, and really fun to view. Iubitul, your pictures of Shea are breathtaking. Absolutely breathtaking and beautiful. Everybody, thanks for sharing them. themetfairy Oct 19 2008 06:51 PM Warewolf! Good to see you, man. Don't be a stranger! metirish Oct 20 2008 12:29 PM Found this persons work over at Faith & Fear( looks like a few have been posted here already) , very extensive collection of great pictures. What does picture #40 show? picnic area? http://sports.webshots.com/album/568107635SUQZeD Read this from Jason over at Faith and Fear. http://www.faithandfearinflushing.com/ Farmer Ted Oct 20 2008 07:37 PM Where the heck are they storing 55,000 seats? metsguyinmichigan Oct 21 2008 08:21 AM Uniwatch reports that the Agee marker appears to have been saved! Willets Point Oct 21 2008 08:25 AM ="Farmer Ted"]Where the heck are they storing 55,000 seats? dgwphotography Oct 22 2008 04:55 AM ="metsguyinmichigan"] Uniwatch reports that the Agee marker appears to have been saved! Yeah - probably to be sold... soupcan Oct 22 2008 07:40 AM Farmer Ted Oct 22 2008 02:52 PM I share Belushi's reaction. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gI3nb9x5VhY Zvon Oct 22 2008 06:11 PM ="soupcan"] Oh my.... This is difficult to witness. PiggiesTomatoes Oct 24 2008 08:29 PM A couple of shots from my only game this season -- at least it was a win. The only win against the pitiful Mariners this season. Down in Tampa now and don't get back to NY all that often for games. > My basehit at Shea. Fantasy Camp reunion in 2006... The place may have been a bit of a dump but it was our dump. Rockin' Doc Oct 25 2008 05:37 AM Nice pictures. Welcome to the pool. Nice handle, I hope you stick around. metirish Oct 25 2008 05:46 AM ="PiggiesTomatoes":2399a9u7] The place may have been a bit of a dump but it was our dump.[/quote:2399a9u7] Thank you and welcome. metsguyinmichigan Oct 25 2008 01:01 PM Great photos! I can't imagine how glorious it was to get that hit. Welcome aBordick! themetfairy Oct 25 2008 01:43 PM This little piggy is a welcome addition to the Pool - Welcome Zvon Oct 25 2008 07:00 PM Excellent pics Piggie! Actually batting at Shea must have been an incredible experience. Is that a female catcher? PiggiesTomatoes Oct 25 2008 07:59 PM Thanks, everyone, for the kind words. I'd joined some time ago but didn't visit for a while, then got locked out and getting back in was a bitch! Riffraff filter must work. Getting to play on the field was a thrill and yes, it was a female catcher. She was the only female in camp and was a trooper. Regards, JF Kong76 Oct 26 2008 05:03 PM PT: joined some time ago but didn't visit for a while, then got locked out and getting back in was a bitch! Riffraff filter must work <<< Read your email around 9 AM on Fri and answered, and had you set up before 6 PM that same day. No one was locked out and getting back was as easy as sending an email. PiggiesTomatoes Oct 26 2008 07:33 PM I wasn't being critical...thought that use of the term riffraff filter would have communicated sarcasm. That said, I'd attempted logging in unsuccessfully with my original password without luck and when I tried to use the forgot password link, I repeatedly received a message that my name and email address did not match. Then, I was unable to find an email address on the forum to contact, ultimately "googling" to find the admin addy. It wasn't easy...but I do appreciate the prompt reply once I emailed the correct address. JF G-Fafif Oct 26 2008 07:38 PM PT, Great pictures. At first glance I wondered how the Mariners game was suddenly being played in daylight. Per your sobriquet, let us know who will be ready first: Hausman or Kobel. Kong76 Oct 27 2008 05:41 AM Maybe it's me and I'm just being cranky and defensive but the email address is right up top: Everybody in the pool! Joining us for off-season hot stove discussion is easy. Shoot us an email [click here] Glad you re-found us. Willets Point Oct 27 2008 01:12 PM Welcome Piggie! You can hold the conch while you're here. soupcan Oct 28 2008 10:54 AM will the Dunkin' Dounts cup be the last man standing? metirish Oct 28 2008 10:57 AM Helps keep the workers running. Gwreck Oct 28 2008 11:46 AM It's somewhat refreshing that nobody was dumb enough to shell out the ~$5000 the greedy MeiGray group was asking for it. AG/DC Oct 28 2008 11:47 AM Or they're moving it to the new digs. seawolf17 Oct 28 2008 01:12 PM It'd be funny if they just left it in the parking lot. Benjamin Grimm Oct 28 2008 01:22 PM They do seem to have demolished around it. Maybe it will be moved to Citi Field. I imagine the new place will have some advertising, no? SteveJRogers Oct 28 2008 01:23 PM ="Gwreck":1zlwh6r8]It's somewhat refreshing that nobody was dumb enough to shell out the ~$5000 the greedy MeiGray group was asking for it.[/quote:1zlwh6r8] Say what you will about memorabilia sellers like MeiGray and Steiner, that probably really is the going rate for that kind of unique advertising as memorabilia. Honestly, there probably is a market for stuff like that; McDonald arches, Big Boys Big Boy, etc. Just no one that got involved in the Shea Memorabilia auctions was into it. metirish Oct 28 2008 01:28 PM ="SteveJRogers":1991yy98] Say what you will about memorabilia sellers like MeiGray and Steiner,[/quote:1991yy98] Thank you , I will. Fucking scum they are. Benjamin Grimm Oct 28 2008 01:33 PM I'm not sure I understand the animosity. metirish Oct 28 2008 01:39 PM Well he said say what you want so I did.... soupcan Oct 28 2008 02:15 PM I guess as long as there are people out there who are willing to pay those ridiculous prices then I don't have an issue with someone charging it. Capitalism and all that. I am upset at the kind of money they are asking for stuff though. I intended to get a pair of seats but $869.00? Really? For what will amount to a novelty in my yard? Then I looked around the website and I thought that this: ...would be cool. But those are up over $1,200.00. They so take advantage of our own feelings towards the team - hundreds of dollars for bricks, almost a grand for seats. Its just a little disappointing is all. soupcan Nov 01 2008 11:01 AM Say goodbye to the shrimpeaters! Field level frst base side is the first to go. Valadius Nov 01 2008 11:21 AM Do they HAVE to have debris strewn around that wonderful field? Kong76 Nov 01 2008 11:26 AM SJR: Say what you will about memorabilia sellers like MeiGray <<< Irish: Thank you , I will. Fucking scum they are <<< I know the guy who was the first premier club guy in line and I didn't get the impression that the guys willing to spend the cash thought MeiGray was hus- tling anyone ... they're brokers. He advertised the event to everyone on his memorabilia buying list and I assume he did so to generate interest among those who were obviously interested. I hope he got a kick back, it's the American way! I wrote back that they're gonna cause a few divorces to which he quipped, "never tell your wife what you're really spending on Mets' stuff!" soupcan Nov 01 2008 11:49 AM ="Valadius":3pluypt1]Do they HAVE to have debris strewn around that wonderful field?[/quote:3pluypt1] I think that's kinda unavoidable when you're tearing a structure down. What are they supposed to do - follow the bulldozers around with a broom and dustpan? metsmarathon Nov 01 2008 02:40 PM that's just silly. what they should do is gingerly remove each and every peice the way it was originally put in, and delicately hand carry it out of the stadium grounds, stepping only on the red carpet laid across the field, and place each dutifully salvaged quantum of the stadium into its own velvet lined receptacle wherein it will remain interred through the end of time. soupcan Nov 03 2008 07:55 AM Dunkin' Donuts Down! Benjamin Grimm Nov 03 2008 07:57 AM I expected it would be surrounded by a large puddle of spilled coffee. soupcan Nov 03 2008 07:57 AM Link There are more pictures on the site. ] November 1, 2008 Bulk of Shea Stadium awaits sale in Bridgewater company's warehouse By MICHAEL DEAK Staff Writer From the outside it looks like an unremarkable warehouse, not like the pyramids in Egypt that were built as mausoleums for the pharaohs. But inside that squat warehouse are treasures that, for New York Mets fans, are as valuable as anything that has ever been found inside the pyramids. It is the Bridgewater warehouse of the MeiGray Group, which has the task of selling all the contents of Shea Stadium, except for the seats. Warren resident Barry Meisel, a former sportswriter for the New York Daily News who is the president and chief operating officer of the MeiGray Group, doesn't want the exact location of the warehouse disclosed for security reasons because it houses thousands of items saved from Shea Stadium before the stadium's slow demolition started earlier this month. Everything is for sale, except for two items that Meisel bought for himself � a picture of the celebration after the Mets clinched the World Series in 1969, and the portion of the center field wall that bears the 410-foot marker. "I always wanted that," he said. Memorabilia Meisel estimated that the warehouse contains from 5,000 to 7,000 items from Shea Stadium. Some of the items are relatively minor, such as the hundreds of nameplates that were placed on the back of seats occupied by season ticket holders. There are numerous boxes of photographs taken from the walls of corridors, executive offices, suites and inside the stadium. The pictures are blown-up images of legendary Mets and the unforgettable moments from the team's 46-year history. In the middle of the warehouse is a nondescript pile of wood found at any demolition site. But, Meisel said, it is a special pile of wood � boards from benches in both the home and visiting team dugouts. The boards were never replaced in the dugouts but have been painted many times, he said. Also in the middle of the warehouse are the 150-foot foul poles that have been broken into 25-foot sections. There are rows of lockers from both the Mets and visitors' locker rooms, as well as cubicles from where players hung their clothes and kept their valuables during games. Throughout the warehouse are piles of outfield wall sections including the retired numbers of players and managers. Flags that flew at the top of the stadium have also found a home in the warehouse. There also are hundreds of signs from throughout the stadium � signs that hung on restroom doors and signs that directed fans to the subway station. A sign of team mascot Mr. Met saying smoking is prohibited in the stadium has already been sold for $100, Meisel said. And there are hundreds of curiosities: an orange water cooler with the Mets logo and a plaque from Seton Hall University honoring Frank Cashen, who was the Mets general manager in the 1980s and considered to be the architect of the team that won the 1986 World Series. There is even a lime marker that came from the Polo Grounds, the original home of the Mets, that was still used by the grounds crew at Shea. Toward the front of the warehouse is a cluster of fan assistance, concession and program booths that Meisel said would look great in any Met fan's backyard. One of the most intriguing items is the concrete marker that was placed in the left field upper deck where centerfielder Tommie Agee hit the longest home run in Shea Stadium's history, on April 10, 1969. Some of the most popular items salvaged from the stadium are not in the warehouse because they've already been sold. All of the stadium's 31 turnstiles have been sold. It was a daunting job, but all of the items were recovered from Shea Stadium after the last game of the season. Swing bidder Many of the items from Shea will be auctioned on the MeiGray's group's Web site. The first auction ended Friday, Oct. 31, but Meisel said there will be future monthly auctions. He estimates it will take a year to sell everything from the stadium. Proceeds from the sale will be divided among New York City, which owns the stadium, and the Mets Foundation, said Jay Horowitz, vice president of media relations for the Mets. The Mets Foundation funds and promotes a variety of charitable causes, including educational, social and athletic programs for young people. What people are willing to pay for some of the items has Meisel scratching his head. For example, the wrought-iron "tree surrounds" with the Mets logo that protected the trees in the parking lot are receiving bids of more than $1,000. Menu board signs from concession stands are fetching bids around $1,000. A section of the outfield wall goes for close to $900. Bids on ketchup and mustard holders with the Mets logo are more than $500. Even a neon Bud Light sign has a bid of $515. As a literal sign of better times, an outfield wall panel with an AIG advertisement had a bid of $1,420. "This (sale) only happens once every 45 years," Meisel said. A Jersey boy Meisel and his partner Bob Gray started the MeiGray Group in the 1990s. After 19 years as a sportswriter for the Daily News covering professional hockey and the New York Giants, Meisel said he became tired of traveling. Meisel's decision to channel his interest in sports into a new career came at an opportune time. With the economy growing steadily, the market for collectible sports memorabilia began to boom in the late 1990s. He developed the idea of selling authenticated jerseys that were worn by professional hockey players. He wrote a business plan and approached one of the teams that he used to cover, the New York Rangers, and in August 1997 signed an exclusive deal to sell the team's previously worn jerseys. The Rangers deal led to agreements with the New Jersey Devils. Next, the MeiGray group inked deals with NBA teams. An NHL or NBA player goes through about six jerseys during a season, three in the home uniform and three in the away uniforms, he said. Last week, as Meisel was sitting in the warehouse, he showed a jersey that had been worn the previous night by Elton Brand, an NBA veteran free agent, who had made his debut as a Philadelphia 76er on the night of Wednesday, Oct. 29. "It smells," Meisel said. "It's sweaty." But it's also valuable to collectors and fans of Brand. That's why representatives, working with the teams' equipment managers, of the MeiGray Group often go into locker rooms immediately after games to get the jerseys. The key to the business, headquartered in Branchburg, is the authentication process that guarantees buyers they are getting genuine items. The jersey comes with a letter of authentication with the team's letterhead, Meisel said. The MeiGray Group has seven full-time employees who are responsible for acquiring the items, cataloging and pricing them, selling them and then shipping them to the buyers. "We have a great staff," Meisel said, adding that he hires collectors to help him put values on the items. The company's growing reputation was one of the reasons why the MeiGray Group got the contract with the Mets to sell the memorabilia from Shea Stadium, which is owned by the City of New York. Meisel is no longer spending hours away from home traveling for his job, but said he works from 60 to 70 hours a week. "I'm happy," he said. "This is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity." John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 03 2008 07:58 AM ="soupcan"]Dunkin' Donuts Down! Finally some destruction I can support. It be cool if we cracked that open and Rachel Ray would come out naked. Edgy DC Nov 03 2008 08:01 AM it would be kind of cool to give the Agee marker to the Agee family. Ditto the Seaver/Stengel/Hodges numbers. Farmer Ted Nov 03 2008 08:42 AM The DD sign was an eyesore. Those stupid police lights and the K sign were bad ideas drawn up by some idiot in a board room. Edgy DC Nov 03 2008 08:47 AM Doesn't this look like they composed a Met jersey and photoshopped it onto a Yankee picture of Wille? metirish Nov 03 2008 08:48 AM ] Finally some destruction I can support. It be cool if we cracked that open and Rachel Ray would come out naked. Saw her recently and couldn't believe how heavy she has gotten. Benjamin Grimm Nov 03 2008 08:55 AM Rachael Ray is an example of how someone can be both cute AND unappealing at the same time. Edgy DC Nov 03 2008 08:58 AM Can we just not talk about happy homemakers from TV ever? Benjamin Grimm Nov 03 2008 09:04 AM metsguyinmichigan Nov 03 2008 09:53 AM ="Benjamin Grimm":2zdqcdh1]Rachael Ray is an example of how someone can be both cute AND unappealing at the same time.[/quote:2zdqcdh1] Well, if you go back to the early shows on Food Network, she was always a little chunky, part of her girl next door appeal. She certainly had a makeover when the show went big, and this year appeared to have some, um, surgical enhancements, in the chest area, unless they did some severe Photoshop work for the magazine covers. My crush on Rachael is well-known, and somewhat tolerated by my wife. Benjamin Grimm Nov 03 2008 11:14 AM It's not her weight that makes her unappealing, it's the noises that come out of her mouth. G-Fafif Nov 03 2008 11:42 AM ="Edgy DC":2j9ucmx8]Doesn't this look like they composed a Met jersey and photoshopped it onto a Yankee picture of Wille? [/quote:2j9ucmx8] This would explain why the Mets in recent years seemed so flat. metsguyinmichigan Nov 03 2008 12:10 PM ="Benjamin Grimm":1wzmvwjl]It's not her weight that makes her unappealing, it's the noises that come out of her mouth.[/quote:1wzmvwjl] She talks? Benjamin Grimm Nov 03 2008 12:17 PM She tries. themetfairy Nov 03 2008 01:02 PM She squawks. seawolf17 Nov 03 2008 02:46 PM ="soupcan":1mxbmvn9]A sign of team mascot Mr. Met saying smoking is prohibited in the stadium has already been sold for $100, Meisel said.[/quote:1mxbmvn9] FUCKIN' HELL. That's all I wanted from the stadium. I just left a message with someone at MeiGray. soupcan Nov 07 2008 07:18 AM Found these at baseball-fever.com First game ever at Shea... Last game ever at Shea... Benjamin Grimm Nov 07 2008 07:37 AM It was prettier when it opened than when it closed. Edgy DC Nov 07 2008 08:39 AM The pitch could have been in better condition. G-Fafif Nov 07 2008 09:00 AM A ballpark that looked better with a parking lot in the background will now itself be a parking lot. The irony is as thick as the outfield grass was thin. Benjamin Grimm Nov 07 2008 09:12 AM Looking at the two photos together really shows how much garishness was added to Shea over the years. I'm sure Citi Field with start out with a lot of that clutter already in place. I can only imagine what it will look like 40 years from now. (And I hope I live to find out! At this point, another 40 years is about as much as I care to get.) John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 07 2008 09:33 AM ="Edgy DC":2749cxyp]The pitch could have been in better condition.[/quote:2749cxyp] Shea was barely complete when it opened. They worked till the very last minute. They said it was very soft and muddy in the outfield. metirish Nov 07 2008 09:40 AM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":1qbr6llo] ="Edgy DC":1qbr6llo]The pitch could have been in better condition.[/quote:1qbr6llo] Shea was barely complete when it opened. They worked till the very last minute. They said it was very soft and muddy in the outfield.[/quote:1qbr6llo] Was there even a fence at the back behind CF separating it form the parking lot , it's hard to tell. soupcan Nov 07 2008 09:43 AM And half of the parking lot isn't even paved yet. Willets Point Nov 07 2008 09:46 AM All the cars are the same size though. soupcan Nov 11 2008 08:03 AM First base Field level is gone, Third base nearly so. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 08:14 AM One advantage to implosions (yes, I realize that wasn't possible in this case) is that they're quick. This is like a band-aid being slowly and painfully peeled off. seawolf17 Nov 11 2008 11:29 AM ="themetfairy":2tehg78d]One advantage to implosions (yes, I realize that wasn't possible in this case) is that they're quick. This is like a band-aid being slowly and painfully peeled off.[/quote:2tehg78d] No kidding. I should stop opening this thread. G-Fafif Nov 11 2008 12:26 PM That sure was some tadium. Zvon Nov 11 2008 12:57 PM ="themetfairy":3vpl9tnq]One advantage to implosions (yes, I realize that wasn't possible in this case) is that they're quick. This is like a band-aid being slowly and painfully peeled off.[/quote:3vpl9tnq] I couldn't have said it better. I have to say I am a bit surprised how the destruction of Shea is effecting me. It has to be this slow torturous way I'm viewing it bit by bit. ="seawolf17":3vpl9tnq]No kidding. I should stop opening this thread.[/quote:3vpl9tnq] I'm with you seawolf17. Edgy DC Nov 11 2008 01:12 PM We let this happen. More than a few advocated it's happening. It's no time to turn away now. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 01:22 PM I'll own up to wanting the new stadium. I'm not denying that. But I've seen this transition done in several other cities during the past few years, and to a team they've all handled it better than the Mets have. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 01:34 PM I'm enjoying the pictures and saving everyone one of them. Keep 'em coming, I stopped licking my wound about ten days ago. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 01:35 PM tmf: they've all handled it better than the Mets have <<< How so? soupcan Nov 11 2008 01:39 PM I'll miss the old girl too but c'mon. Think of what it will be like having wide walkways! Benjamin Grimm Nov 11 2008 01:42 PM Wide walkways and legroom are nothing to sneeze at. I'd feel differently if I still lived in New York. But as rarely as I get to Shea Queens to see the Mets play anymore, I don't think Citi Field will ever feel like home to me. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 01:44 PM I remember the Phillies homage to the Vet in 2003 - a stadium that was younger than Shea and didn't have nearly the history Shea did. IIRC they were the first to take down a number before each game, but they made sure that every number was taken down by someone with a meaningful connection to the team or the stadium (not a Lincoln Mercury dealer in the lot). Their post-game ceremony after their final game was very moving (I'll find the link to it shortly), without the idiotic delay that Mets fans had to endure after Shea's final game. They had books ghost written by the Phillies Phanatic helping prepare younger fans for the move. From top to bottom it just seemed like a much better thought out operation. Edgy DC Nov 11 2008 01:49 PM That has little to do with photos of the de-construction. Is a delay before a ceremony such a big deal? themetfairy Nov 11 2008 01:52 PM The delay before the ceremony was just endemic of the half-assed job the Mets did in properly celebrating Shea's final season. They had an opportunity to do the old girl real justice, and they dropped the ball every chance they could. I couldn't find that footage of the final game ceremony at the Vet on the Phillies' site (and I feel very dirty trolling around there - ick!). But it had much more of a well-planned feel to it. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 01:56 PM How did we get from handling the transition in a day by day demolition thread which you said other teams did better to closing ceremonies and silly number countdowns? themetfairy Nov 11 2008 02:06 PM ="KC"]How did we get from handling the transition in a day by day demolition thread which you said other teams did better to closing ceremonies and silly number countdowns? I mentioned the transition in general. You asked for details. I think that if the Mets did a better job in paying homage to Shea this past season that people wouldn't be as upset about its destruction as they are. Agree or disagree with that premise - it's merely a theory. Edgy DC Nov 11 2008 02:08 PM I wouldn't feel dirty seeking for it if you liked it. If you like it, you like it. It's all MLB's website anyhow. I'm just not ready to kick the Mets because they don't demolish the stadium in a manner comparable to the White Sox or the Rangers. Or such having anything to do with why folks say they won't open this thread. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 02:12 PM You seem to be switching gears, going from "we let this happen/some advocated for it" to "I'm not ready to kick the Mets." You cool with this or not? Kong76 Nov 11 2008 02:15 PM tmf: I mentioned the transition in general. You asked for details <<< How did all the others "to a team" handle the dismantling of their old stadium better than the Mets? Edgy DC Nov 11 2008 02:21 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Nov 11 2008 02:27 PM You're excerpting phrases out of sentences there. It's clear to anybody that I didn't support a new stadium. How it's demolished is a moot point and I don't see how it can be done better, or indeed has been done better by everyone else. Frayed Knot Nov 11 2008 02:25 PM Maybe they can demolish the stadium by bringing each piece out on a velvet pillow laid out on a sled pulled by a puppy dog. I'm sure we'd all feel better then. This wound-licking is getting too much. I want video of the destruction and i hope it's bloody. Benjamin Grimm Nov 11 2008 02:29 PM I don't think the Mets did such a bad job with the last year of Shea. Yeah, there were too many Lincoln-Mercury dealers pulling down the numbers. But I think the closing ceremony was nicely done. Very nicely done. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 02:36 PM The physical demolition of Shea has to be done in this manner because implosion is not possible. My point is that I don't think that people would be reacting to the demolition process as painfully as they are if the Mets had done a better job of honoring Shea properly in its final season. Benjamin Grimm Nov 11 2008 02:38 PM Speaking only for myself, I just find it a little bit sad. No pain though. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 02:39 PM I know people who are in real pain over this. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 02:44 PM There's no way I could cull what fairy's point was from what she typed, I don't read posters minds, we were talking about the demolition pics. Problem with getting too wrapped up in the Mets will never be the same with- out good ol' Shea is before you know it's twenty years from now and you're writing letters to the paper like Bob L about how greener the grass was there and popcorn fresher. The bathroom floors were even drier and less sticky 20 years from now too I bet and those wonderful sight lines ... themetfairy Nov 11 2008 02:50 PM If that's the case, then I weep for the yet-to-be-finished Citi Field. Frayed Knot Nov 11 2008 02:54 PM I think we're starting to sound like the wound-lickers we used to make fun of; - oh no, this stadium is being destroyed worse than any other stadium in the history of destroyed stadiums - only the Mets could paint their foul lines crooked - why did Shea have to die so young? Kong76 Nov 11 2008 02:57 PM tmf: I know people who are in real pain over this <<< Send 'em here! Edgy DC Nov 11 2008 03:00 PM ="Frayed Knot":3qcqh3up]I think we're starting to sound like the wound-lickers we used to make fun of; - oh no, this stadium is being destroyed worse than any other stadium in the history of destroyed stadiums - only the Mets could paint their foul lines crooked - why did Shea have to die so young?[/quote:3qcqh3up] Wait a minute, that second one wuz you. Edgy DC Nov 11 2008 03:00 PM ="KC"]tmf: I know people who are in real pain over this <<< Send 'em here! I think they're minors. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 03:02 PM Actually, Iubital's post yesterday ("it doesn't surprise me") started me on this build up of let's stop the wound licking that was bound to come out. I think. I ain't going back to look. (OE: meaning the foul line not lining up) themetfairy Nov 11 2008 03:18 PM ="Edgy DC"] ="KC"]tmf: I know people who are in real pain over this <<< Send 'em here! I think they're minors. No - the minors I know aren't as connected to Shea as most of the adults I know. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 03:24 PM How do they feel about the demolition? Do the also feel that it's being handled "to a team" much worse by the Mets? Or are they just bitter about the closing ceremonies and number countdown too? Send 'em here. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 03:32 PM Who are you talking about? Kong76 Nov 11 2008 03:39 PM The people who are in real pain over this, McFly. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 03:45 PM I'll leave it to them to specifically reply to you or not. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 03:50 PM If they're here (and I suspected they were) then you should have left them out of your poor defense to begin with and let them speak for themselves. You wiggled off like four hooks in this thread. G-Fafif Nov 11 2008 04:06 PM There is beauty, pain and joy in baseball. When they gut and pry apart where you experienced most of it, a person is likely to reflect on all three and feel, upon viewing the kinds of pictures in question, one of those sensations in particular. The beauty and the joy may have been carried out safely before MeiGray could sell them, but it is not surprising that the pain should linger and overshadow for many if not all across the duration of the demolition. Later? Who knows? We haven't been there yet. I suspect the beauty and the pain and the joy will coalesce into the warmer memories the magic of distance allows. Reality says somebody's doing a job in taking down Shea Stadium. Reality says the plan has been on the table long enough for everybody to adjust to the plan. But baseball and reality were never intended to mesh so easily. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 04:17 PM Eloquent as ever, and on topic. Bravo! themetfairy Nov 11 2008 04:29 PM ="KC":cumx5g68]If they're here (and I suspected they were) then you should have left them out of your poor defense to begin with and let them speak for themselves. You wiggled off like four hooks in this thread.[/quote:cumx5g68] Don't ask direct questions if you're not going to like the answers. What was I supposed to do? Ignore you? G-Fafif Nov 11 2008 04:32 PM ="KC":3vuetxpl]Eloquent as ever, and on topic. Bravo![/quote:3vuetxpl] Thanks much, but just throwing the last pitch of what TMF stated quite reasonably, I think...Benitez to the Fairy's Leiter, as it were. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 04:33 PM Thanks G. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 04:35 PM I disagree, I think she said something and then changed it to something else and then played on then something else. I have to stop, I'm gonna start getting PM's about causing waves in the bath tub. Frayed Knot Nov 11 2008 04:38 PM ="Edgy DC"] ="Frayed Knot"]I think we're starting to sound like the wound-lickers we used to make fun of; - oh no, this stadium is being destroyed worse than any other stadium in the history of destroyed stadiums - only the Mets could paint their foul lines crooked - why did Shea have to die so young? Wait a minute, that second one wuz you. Yes, but I was just noting the fact that they looked off via the angle in that aerial shot. What followed was a reply which stated that only the Mets could do something like that as if the new stadium really will have foul poles 150' from home plate on account of this organization being so incompetant that the thought of seeing where the lines actually lead hasn't yet occured to anyone during this whole multi-million dollar operation. I'd bring up the one post wondering if they really had to ruin the grass with all that machinery during the deconstruction but I don't think that one was totally serious (although I waver at times). G-Fafif Nov 11 2008 04:39 PM I find it way more upsetting that I posted my way up from Richie Hebner only to morph into Jerry DiPoto. Who ranks these things? Oh right. Us. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 04:46 PM ="KC":6z6ktyl3]I disagree, I think she said something and then changed it to something else and then played on then something else. I have to stop, I'm gonna start getting PM's about causing waves in the bath tub.[/quote:6z6ktyl3] I did nothing of the kind. I answered a question that you asked me. You chose not to like the answer. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 05:05 PM I ain't outlining it for you, and don't be so fucking snippy. You're not always right. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 05:07 PM I'm just playing defense here. I'm not the one accusing people of changing things around. Nor have I done or said anything that merits you swearing at me. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 05:16 PM I'm sorry, but you're just freakin' maddening sometimes. Poorly handled transition does not equal demolition. Go wiggle yourself. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 05:24 PM I never said it equaled demolition. I was talking about people's reactions to the demolition. And nothing I said justifies the kind of reaction you're having. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 05:33 PM No, your first response was about the closing ceremonies and the count down .... have you been drinking with cooby? I'm comfortable with my reaction for purposes of this thread and I apologize for cursing and that's all I have to say on the matter. C'mon, "go wiggle yourself" was pretty funny. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 05:43 PM No, I have not been drinking. This is what you consider an apology? I made a comment about the transition being handled poorly. You asked me to extrapolate. I did, and you reacted in a pretty hostile manner. If you don't like my opinion that's your prerogative. But you needn't go off like that just because you disagree with it. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 05:50 PM I apologized for cursing, that's it. Your reading comprehension skills are taking a beating in this thread. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 05:54 PM No. I'm simply taking a beating for not seeing an issue exactly the way that you do. Kong76 Nov 12 2008 04:20 AM A beating? If I was gonna get nasty I'd dig up a picture of you in a Phillies uniform and really stick it to you. I'm ultimately taking the beating when we argue because the bath house mentality of this board will almost always side with you. Mean ol' KC. *sigh* HahnSolo Nov 12 2008 06:42 AM Hi, I'm here for the "intelligent, lively and provocative discussion of the Mets, Ed Kranepool, and on a good day, the Ramones." Am I in the right place? Kong76 Nov 12 2008 06:58 AM seawolf17 Nov 12 2008 07:17 AM ="HahnSolo":3u9spspm]Hi, I'm here for the "intelligent, lively and provocative discussion of the Mets, Ed Kranepool, and on a good day, the Ramones." Am I in the right place?[/quote:3u9spspm] Eff that. I come here for the weekly KC/Scarlet fights. Edgy DC Nov 12 2008 07:35 AM I missed a GREAT NIGHT. Zvon Nov 12 2008 08:48 PM whats all this then....? Pages of posts but nary an image. Addressing the issue of pain... Some of us do feel pain in regard to Shea's demise. It's not even that bad. Its a pang....a feeling of remorse. It hurts on a level that's hard to express, and its a passing phase. Eventually this will be a thing of the past. Not yet though, seeing it being ripped down bit by bit, here and at other places as well. I have been going around and collecting pictures of Shea myself. Anything I come across. Early days,recent times,....even the demolition. So I bop in here and I see there have been additions to the Shea Photo thread, and I'm like, "Oh kool! Maybe its one I haven't seen. Hope its the older Shea...but any nice pic of Shea would be sweet to see..." I hope to see pictures of Shea in way of a recollection, an homage. That's just me though. Maybe there should be a seperate thread for Shea's demolition, ...I dunno. But it's really not a big deal. As you can see I'll still check out this thread, hoping for kool pics of Shea Stadium when it was in use. I've come across some really great Shea photos online recently, especially at Baseball Fever. Like this one. I am 95% positive that thats me running onto the field after game 5 of the '73 NLCS. Edgy DC Nov 12 2008 09:05 PM Classy look. Apparently, nobody was allowed in that day --- by law --- except 21-year-old white males with shoulder-length hair, workshirts, and bellbottoms. Zvon Nov 12 2008 09:15 PM ="Edgy DC":3fjgok91]Classy look. Apparently, nobody was allowed in that day --- by law --- except 21-year-old white males with shoulder-length hair, workshirts, and bellbottoms.[/quote:3fjgok91] Not so. I was 15. Kong76 Nov 13 2008 04:34 AM EDC: Classy look. Apparently, nobody was allowed in that day --- by law --- except 21-year-old white males with shoulder-length hair, workshirts, and bellbottoms ------------- I never noticed, but you're right. It looks like they just opened a gate for field level gen adm for a Deep Purple concert or something and all the guys are scrambling to get a good spot. Cool picture to be in. G-Fafif Nov 13 2008 05:42 AM It's fascinating, from a cultural perspective, to contrast the crowds storming the field images from '69 and '73. The tumult of the '60s may have waned away from the ballpark, but its remnants seem to have become codified in places that were largely shielded from change while change was at its most intense: like the ballpark. (Which is probably what pissed Dick Young off so.) It's often been said there was more of an edge to the '73 rushing of the field than '69's, for what that's worth. I don't remember the Orioles complaining they were frightened for their well-being the way the Reds did. That YouTube clip that MLB pulled earlier this year, the pregame show from Game Four of the '73 World Series, showed (to me anyway) what a different world we were living in versus four years earlier, not just in style but substance. If you recall, Kubek, Seaver and Hunter were all taking Charlie Finley to task for his handling of the Mike Andrews situation. Questioning authority, kind of a radical concept in establishment circles in 1969, was part of the polyester fabric of the game by 1973. Probably not a coincidence this was the same year as the Senate's Watergate hearings nor that within two weeks there would be such a backlash to the Saturday Night Massacre. soupcan Nov 14 2008 09:54 AM Latest shots from wcbs880 chopper... Field level is completely gone now. Here's some interesting stuff that I got from baseball fever. Shea Demolition Plans: Edgy DC Nov 14 2008 09:58 AM What's a "NON-BEARTING STRUCTURE"? Benjamin Grimm Nov 14 2008 10:00 AM Before anyone else beats me to it, let me just get this out of the way: It figures! The stupid Mets can't even get the spelling right! Willets Point Nov 14 2008 10:04 AM Question for Zvon. Is your shirt open showing your Siegfried & Roy hairless chest or were you wearing a fleshtone t-shirt? Zvon Nov 14 2008 01:26 PM ="Willets Point"]Question for Zvon. Is your shirt open showing your Siegfried & Roy hairless chest or were you wearing a fleshtone t-shirt? lol. I never went around displaying my slinky chest so I'm sure that's a T-shirt. Doubt it was fleshtone, probly orange. Thing is I'm not positive that's me. First time I saw the pic I looked right past that guy searching for me. Eventually I got back to him and thought that must be me. I have no recollection of what I wore that day. I do know I was a skinny guy with long hair who always wore white sneaks. If I had on a flannel shirt, which I wore often enough, it be rolled up at the sleeves. And the path I took puts me right about where that guy is. After that I ran to the edge of the home plate grass, stopped... saw that girl on the mound (looks like she's going for the rubber <[joke setup<]).. our eyes met...I ran to her on the mound and we did a Koosman/Grote type jump and hug. Twirled in a circle, split and ran in different directions. I never saw her again but I'll never forget that moment. Benjamin Grimm Nov 14 2008 01:27 PM I had no idea that Marlo Thomas was there that day! metirish Nov 14 2008 01:34 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Nov 14 2008 01:34 PM WOW , what a great picture , guy in the yellow shirt at second stands out and I count three suits that might be security , one to the right of yellow shirt and one to the left of Buddy and one n front of him. Edgy DC Nov 14 2008 01:34 PM That's a great story. How about Barry Gibb chicken dancing to your right? Zvon Nov 14 2008 01:37 PM ="Edgy DC":38ctzctd]That's a great story. How about Barry Gibb chicken dancing to your right?[/quote:38ctzctd] No hug for him. Zvon Nov 14 2008 02:31 PM The thing about storming (and that's a very apt description) of the field in '73, and why it did get out of control, was that every kid wanted to be part of that moment, to be part of the celebration like in '69. And as the game went on we all had the same idea : to get down to field level so it was possible. We did the same thing during game four. I ended up on the 1st base side then. Rose hit that extra inning homer and the celebration was over. I was right on the rail behind the added box on the 3rd base side late in game 5. The Reds families were sitting in them. Eventually the game was stopped and they were led out to the Reds bullpen for their safety. And it's not that we were bothering them personally in any way, shape or form (fans did taunt them when they were being led away though, lol). Its just that there was a sea of people behind them that became like one big giant swaying creature. We could not move independently, could hardly even breath. And you know what I did then? I jumped the rail into the make shift box. Like the Reds families I was a bit concerned for my safety. Unfortunately everyone along the rail ended up jumping into the box like lemmings. Again we became crammed. I saw the fans on the 1st base side did the same thing, but they were so packed in that the little wooden wall that enclosed the section collapsed, and they spilled out onto the field. The game had to be halted again. Tug was on the mound at this point. He was pissed off. I remember him approaching the pile of people waving his arms over and over in an upward motion as if to say EVERYONE! BACK UP AND INTO THE STANDS! It was pretty crazy. I got so sandwiched in the corner of the box that I felt that we were gonna burst out on this side too. I jumped out and went down into the Reds dugout. I was able to hide in plain sight there for quite a few minutes, sitting on a stool in the far corner of the dugout. Eventually a cop came up to me and asked what I was doing there. I told him...I was trying to stay alive, lol. He told me I had to stay alive back up in the stands. This was when I was shown on TV, when the cop was talking to me. (my parents and brothers got to see that from home. My bros thought it was the koolest thing, my folks were like wtf were you doing?). I've told this story before here (I have also mentioned looking for the footage of me on TV and it is nowhere to be found.) but I don't think I ever stressed the point that what happened occurred because too many kids had this dream of being in a '69 like celebration highlight reel. And what actually happened was we so embarrassed the team, the game, the city, that that footage will forever be locked away and forgotten. One of my best Shea memories though. A Boy Named Seo Nov 14 2008 02:40 PM I re-read that part about you being in the Reds dugout a couple times thinking I misread or misunderstood you. That's the craziest thing I've ever heard. Wild story, man. Thanks for sharing. dgwphotography Nov 15 2008 12:28 PM I think I'm one of the one's in real pain over this that TMF is referring to. The thing is not once has the countdown, the ceremonies, or anything that the Mets did or didn't do play a role in it. It is simply the fact that a place that has been a desired destination for me for over 35 years is no longer there. Shea is a place that I dreamed about visiting since my aunt gave me my first yearbook in 1972. It's the knowledge that I will never feel the attachment to the new place that I do to the old place. It's the fact that it was a home away from home of sorts - a place where I knew ever nook and cranny, where I knew where to get the best knishes, or the best dogs. A place that is home to so many memories. Whatever the Mets did or didn't do to mark this occasion plays no role in how I feel about it. Benjamin Grimm Nov 15 2008 01:43 PM I agree with that, except for the part about feeling real pain. I feel a touch of sadness, and a sense of loss, but I wouldn't call it pain. Kong76 Nov 15 2008 04:31 PM I'd like to get a copy of that CAD file with the non bearting typo. Hell, they show part of the guy's name and addy and it was easily discovered who and where he is. Maybe he's got a sense of humor and would leak one to us. Edgy DC Nov 15 2008 07:56 PM Scarsdale. Vic can take a short drive and knock on his door. cooby Nov 16 2008 08:19 PM Zvon, great picture, great stories! cooby Nov 16 2008 08:20 PM And what does "Non Bearting" mean? soupcan Nov 18 2008 11:01 AM All of these from baseball-fever.com Edgy DC Nov 18 2008 11:11 AM What? The auction house couldn't generate any action on the spongetech.com sign? Farmer Ted Nov 18 2008 11:17 AM Soup's top photo shows the location of our old seats. Crushing. Willets Point Nov 18 2008 11:25 AM ="Edgy DC":133d3wiq]What? The auction house couldn't generate any action on the spongetech.com sign?[/quote:133d3wiq] Maybe Bubba Sponge? Farmer Ted Nov 18 2008 11:31 AM Missed the Spongetech sign. Very sponge worthy. soupcan Nov 20 2008 10:01 AM More pictures available at nycsubway.org 9/1963 5/10/1964 8/1/1979 8/1/1979 Tiles removed between 1979 and 1980. 8/16/1980 9/24/2008 holychicken Nov 24 2008 09:01 AM Might be a bit late for this coming in after all of the destruction pics . . . but this is one of my favorite pictures of shea. It is my gf's younger sister. John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 24 2008 09:47 AM ="holychicken"]Might be a bit late for this coming in after all of the destruction pics . . . but this is one of my favorite pictures of shea. It is my gf's younger sister. Is she like, legal? holychicken Nov 24 2008 09:56 AM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":22rs38rb]Is she like, legal?[/quote:22rs38rb] Oh, I see. You see a dark-skinned person and immediately think "illegal immigrant." You should be ashamed! ehehhe SteveJRogers Nov 24 2008 11:37 AM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket"] ="holychicken"]Might be a bit late for this coming in after all of the destruction pics . . . but this is one of my favorite pictures of shea. It is my gf's younger sister. Is she like, legal? Uh, 'Bucket, aren't you very much attached at the moment? Now Chicken, I ask you the same question! Benjamin Grimm Nov 24 2008 11:39 AM I find it a little odd to be lusting after someone when all you know is the shape of her nose. Edgy DC Nov 24 2008 11:44 AM And which pores are and aren't corrupted. holychicken Nov 24 2008 12:06 PM Exactly. I didn't even post a picture of her most desirable body part, her posterior. Dear god, tell me my gf doesn't read this forum or she will surely whup me. seawolf17 Nov 24 2008 12:08 PM ="holychicken":21z05y4i]Exactly. I didn't even post a picture of her most desirable body part, her posterior. Dear god, tell me my gf doesn't read this forum or she will surely whup me.[/quote:21z05y4i] It's okay, you can still post it. We don't mind. Edgy DC Nov 24 2008 12:25 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Nov 24 2008 12:42 PM Butts, schmutz. Steve's a snot man. seawolf17 Nov 24 2008 12:38 PM ="Edgy DC":1hrzmxox]Butts, schmutz. Steve's a snot man.[/quote:1hrzmxox] Must be a Yankee fan thing. SteveJRogers Nov 24 2008 01:14 PM ="holychicken":26x42lii]Exactly. I didn't even post a picture of her most desirable body part, her posterior. Dear god, tell me my gf doesn't read this forum or she will surely whup me.[/quote:26x42lii] Geez, I was just following Bucket's lead. I mean I need some Met Chick love more than he does! soupcan Dec 04 2008 08:12 AM All from baseball-fever John Cougar Lunchbucket Dec 04 2008 08:18 AM Mike Mulligan always said his Steam Shovel could take down one stadium as fast as 100 men could in a day, although he was never quite sure of that. Benjamin Grimm Dec 04 2008 08:26 AM So now they're chewing away at the Loge level? Are they going to get to a point where there's just an unattached Upper Level (or Upper Tank as Keith Hernandez would call it) floating high in the air? soupcan Dec 04 2008 08:28 AM Yeah that's weird isn't it? You'd think they'd go top to bottom rather than the other way around. I'd like to think that they are professional demolishers and know what they are doing rather than they might just be stupid. Edgy DC Dec 04 2008 09:21 AM I don't know. These two guys aren't winning any smart awards with me right now. << dgwphotography Dec 04 2008 10:58 AM ="soupcan"] Zvon - is it me, or does this look tone-mapped? It looks like it has that HDR glow to it... HahnSolo Dec 04 2008 11:21 AM ="Edgy DC":2sv0q5gv] I don't know. These two guys aren't winning any smart awards with me right now. << [/quote:2sv0q5gv] Those two guys are still waiting for their hot pretzel ordered at the last home game. G-Fafif Dec 04 2008 12:30 PM Talk about your stiff Breezes playing havoc with Shea's outfield. Valadius Dec 04 2008 02:00 PM Part of me is rooting to see the picture of them ripping down that Fox News sign. Edgy DC Dec 04 2008 02:14 PM You strike me as somewhat partisan. Am I right? soupcan Dec 04 2008 02:17 PM Who Vlad? Nah - he's as fair and balanced as they come. Kong76 Dec 04 2008 03:45 PM I sent those latest photos to a friend of mine. He wrote back that he thought they were building a new stadium and not just fixing up Shea and slappin' on a new coat of paint like in years gone by. Chucklehead. Zvon Dec 04 2008 04:57 PM ="Iubitul"] ="soupcan"] Zvon - is it me, or does this look tone-mapped? It looks like it has that HDR glow to it... Yes. Especially in comparison with the others. It does bring the shaded areas out. Zvon Dec 04 2008 05:02 PM I wish they would get this over with. How are they gonna take down the highest heights sans demolition? themetfairy Dec 04 2008 05:12 PM It may take a while. I remember Old Comiskey Park was in a state of partial demolition when we visited New Comiskey in August of 1991. Kong76 Dec 04 2008 05:22 PM Z: How are they gonna take down the highest heights sans demolition? <=== Cranes and stuff, and how is what they've been doing not demolition? Kong76 Dec 04 2008 05:52 PM tmf: It may take a while. <=== They don't really have much time if they plan to level the joint and make it a parking lot. My guess is they'll finish well before opening day. I don't want to get into union contracts twice tonight, but they make it worth it to finish on time so there's no lolligaggin' nowadays. Zvon Dec 05 2008 03:10 PM ="KC":21ab889l]Cranes and stuff, and how is what they've been doing not demolition?[/quote:21ab889l] Sorry. I meant the usage of explosive charges. Kong76 Dec 05 2008 03:42 PM I figured, I was just goofin'. soupcan Dec 09 2008 08:13 AM Upper deck wrecking ball. BAM! Benjamin Grimm Dec 09 2008 08:32 AM They should have painted the wrecking ball to look like a baseball. metirish Dec 09 2008 08:33 AM That would have been really taking the piss on those that see that as a sad event. Benjamin Grimm Dec 09 2008 08:37 AM It would be a nod to tradition. It's what they did with the Ebbets Field wrecking ball. The same ball was used a few years later on the Polo Grounds: Benjamin Grimm Dec 09 2008 08:50 AM Cincinnati's Crosley Field too! soupcan Dec 13 2008 02:19 PM Wow - now I'm even starting to have a hard time looking... baseball-fever.com Benjamin Grimm Dec 13 2008 02:36 PM Yikes. Edgy DC Dec 13 2008 02:55 PM GYAH! Kong76 Dec 13 2008 07:10 PM They didn't sell the panels depicting the leap and Seaver's head? Edgy DC Dec 13 2008 07:23 PM It looks like the terrorist hit we were praying wouldn't happen actually did. Kong76 Dec 13 2008 07:44 PM Fuck terrorists, an accidental plane crash on a foggy evening in the wrong flight path was what I thought mighta happened one day. *62 Dec 14 2008 12:56 PM The pictures may be gruesome but the Stadium has overstayed its welcome. I may miss living in Brooklyn desperately, but 3,000 sq. ft. is way better than 920. Edgy DC Dec 14 2008 05:11 PM I don't get the reference. *62 Dec 14 2008 05:39 PM I love Shea for lots of reasons, and will miss it some ..... but it's a dump. Better? Edgy DC Dec 14 2008 05:53 PM I thought those numbers referred to something. Rockin' Doc Dec 14 2008 06:57 PM I think *62 lives in Florida if my memory is correct. He apparently once lived in Brooklyn and apparently hung out at Shea quite a bit in the past. I think he was stating that he missed living in Brooklyn, but preferred the 3000 sq. ft. of living space he can now afford over the 920 sq. ft. of living space he had in Brooklyn. Living in the south and comparing costs for homes with my friends and relatives relatives that live near the city, I understand what he is referring too. Then again, maybe I miss interpreted the meaning of his post. Either way, it's nice to have *62 posting here again. I hope he hangs around. soupcan Dec 16 2008 01:42 PM StadiumPage.com Benjamin Grimm Dec 16 2008 02:04 PM It's amazing that just ten weeks ago it was still full of color and people and noise. soupcan Dec 18 2008 07:45 PM soupcan Dec 29 2008 07:51 AM soupcan Jan 05 2009 12:40 PM G-Fafif Jan 05 2009 12:52 PM Impressive Photoshopping, Soup. Quite interesting to see what Shea Stadium would look like if somebody went mad and started to tear it down. If it wouldn't be too much trouble, please put Shea back together again. Thank you. batmagadanleadoff Jan 05 2009 01:18 PM ="soupcan"]http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q308/soupcan11/shea5-1.jpg That neon batter just reminded me of Gary Carter' follow through, particularly the way Gary would take an inside pitch and line drive one-bounce it to the outfielder for a single. Are there any other Mets that the neon hitter resembles? Edgy DC Jan 05 2009 02:35 PM Looks kind of slender for Carter. It also looks like a guy going to right, while Carter more typically pulled. metirish Jan 13 2009 01:35 PM from 01/10/2009 metsguyinmichigan Jan 13 2009 02:35 PM They're not saving any of the neon players? I know they're huge. but heck, they could slice them up and sell them for $10 a foot to geeks like me! Zvon Jan 13 2009 02:58 PM ="metsguyinmichigan":8phckkps]They're not saving any of the neon players? I know they're huge. but heck, they could slice them up and sell them for $10 a foot to geeks like me![/quote:8phckkps] Why sell just their feet? John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 13 2009 04:19 PM wham G-Fafif Jan 13 2009 04:53 PM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":1virpusd]wham[/quote:1virpusd] "Wake Me Up Before You Go Go" vs. "Baby I'm Your Man" Whoops...wrong thread. metirish Jan 15 2009 08:00 AM Newsday today has a classic Shea pictures collection. Die-hard fans dance in the aisles at 1:50 a.m. during the 21st inning of a 25-inning marathon game between the Mets and the Cardinals at Shea Stadium. (AP Photo / September 12, 1974) A view of Shea Stadium during the national anthem before a New York Mets-Los Angeles Dodgers game in 1973. (AP Photo / June 9, 1973) Fans rush onto the field and players celebrate after the Mets defeated the Baltimore Orioles to win the 1969 World Series. (AP Photo / October 16, 1969 A view of Shea Stadium after after souvenir-hunting fans ripped up the sod following the Mets' victory in the 1969 World Series. (AP Photo / October 16, 1969) Pirates first baseman Willie Stargell waves to the crowd at Shea Stadium during Willie Stargell Night at Shea. The man at left wiping his eye is Nelson Doubleday, Mets chairman of the board. (Newsday / Paul J. Bereswill / September 27, 1982 The new owners of the Mets pose at Shea Stadium. From left: Stephen E. O'Neil, president of City Investing Company; Nelson Doubleday, president of Doubleday Co.; Fred Wilpon, Chairman of the Board of Sterling Equities and John O. Pickett, owner of the NHL New York Islanders, who was instrumental in setting up the sale of the team. Pickett was not listed as an owner of the club. (AP File Photo / January 25, 1980) Car fire involving several cars in the Shea Stadium parking lot during a game in 2002. (AP Photo / April 27, 2002) Workers Angelo DiMaria, left, and Dominico Bannezo clean off old paint and rust as they get Shea Stadium ready for Opening Day in 2001. (Newsdya / J. Conrad Williams Jr / March 28, 2001) > soupcan Jan 15 2009 08:09 AM Amazing how much Jeff looks like his dad used to. Even down to the bad hairdo. ="metirish"] Edgy DC Jan 15 2009 08:10 AM Car Fire Day: Best. Promotion. Ever. HahnSolo Jan 15 2009 08:36 AM I miss crazy old Uncle Nelson. soupcan Jan 15 2009 08:39 AM Pop Quiz - without looking it up, how much did Nelson & Jeff pay for the Mets in 1980. If I remember right, I think it was $20 million. Farmer Ted Jan 15 2009 08:45 AM I only recall $350 million or so to finally kick Doubleday to the curb in '02. Edgy DC Jan 15 2009 09:02 AM Who pitched on Car Fire Day? metirish Jan 15 2009 09:07 AM ="Edgy DC":kdd41i0v]Who pitched on Car Fire Day?[/quote:kdd41i0v] I remember that game , I should say I remember it from watching it on TV and the announcers talking about the fire in the parking lot and showing it. I'll guess that Steve Trachsel pitched . John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 15 2009 09:14 AM ="soupcan":sgwypaic]Pop Quiz - without looking it up, how much did Nelson & Jeff pay for the Mets in 1980. If I remember right, I think it was $20 million.[/quote:sgwypaic] For some reason $21 million is the number I remember but geez. Edgy DC Jan 15 2009 09:14 AM Pedro Pistacio took a no-hiiter into the seventh the day after a crisp one-hitter by Testes. It was game two of a three-game sweep over Milwaukee and, for a minute there, it looked like the 2002 Mets had scrapped together a winning rotation of Leiter-Estes-Astacio-D'Amico-Trachsel. That plan blew up in the parking lot like so many SUVs. Edgy DC Jan 15 2009 09:15 AM Is that logo stitched together? It acually looks like a giant shoulder patch. soupcan Jan 15 2009 09:16 AM D'Amico. I had high hopes for him. soupcan Jan 15 2009 09:17 AM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":esm8z809]For some reason $21 million is the number I remember but geez.[/quote:esm8z809] I think you're right. dgwphotography Jan 15 2009 11:19 AM ="batmagadanleadoff"] ="soupcan"] That neon batter just reminded me of Gary Carter' follow through, particularly the way Gary would take an inside pitch and line drive one-bounce it to the outfielder for a single. Are there any other Mets that the neon hitter resembles? flip it around, and it's Mex. attgig Jan 15 2009 12:16 PM ="metirish"] Fans rush onto the field and players celebrate after the Mets defeated the Baltimore Orioles to win the 1969 World Series. (AP Photo / October 16, 1969 > i wonder if that will ever be allowed in pro sports. when did that stop? it's only on college that you see fans rushing the field. why is that? Edgy DC Jan 15 2009 12:19 PM Because student athletes don't need/demand protection from the masses the way millionnaire atheletes do. Why is the cop screening home plate doing the time warp? metirish Jan 15 2009 12:23 PM How about the guy down the RF line jumping from the stands? Benjamin Grimm Jan 15 2009 12:23 PM I think it stopped in 1986, at least in New York. The fans rushed the field after the division clincher, but the mounted cops prevented it in the World Series. I think, though, that the Phillies had the cops on horseback for the 1980 World Series. John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 17 2009 12:20 PM I went out there this morning, photos on facebook. Here's a vid shot as the 7 train arrives in Willets Pt. metirish Jan 17 2009 01:59 PM Great pictures btw. soupcan Jan 18 2009 01:53 PM These are from baseballfever... Kong76 Jan 18 2009 02:08 PM Even dollar cost averaging down to ~ 7 1/2, that sums up my Citigroup stock feelings. I've been somewhat unaffected by most of the images, but this one is particularly eerie to me: Kong76 Jan 18 2009 02:10 PM I know the home opener is late this year, but are they really gonna have the ol' girl completely gone by then and a parking lot installed? I thought they'd be more far along. Benjamin Grimm Jan 18 2009 03:30 PM I'm not sure they have to. The existing parking lot served Shea for the last few years, and Shea held more fans than Citi will. Kong76 Jan 18 2009 03:37 PM I don't mean they have to, I just thought that was the plan. Since groundbreaking, parking there has been a pain in the neck and I took the train mostly to games. I like to tailgate, plan on doing it a lot this year, and it's easier to do with a car. John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 18 2009 04:26 PM ="Kong76":3gm6qt5k]I know the home opener is late this year, but are they really gonna have the ol' girl completely gone by then and a parking lot installed? I thought they'd be more far along.[/quote:3gm6qt5k] Official plan is the last bits of Shea are to be disappeared by June 30. Those photos put mine to shame! metirish Jan 23 2009 02:23 PM Vince Coleman Firecracker Jan 23 2009 02:43 PM An auto body shop in a Quonset hut. Fantastic. Willets Point Jan 23 2009 02:44 PM I've got dibs on "City * Field * Collision" as my band's name. Frayed Knot Jan 24 2009 11:28 AM The ends of the horseshoe are starting to disappear http://www.wfan.com/pages/3706726.php?imageGalleryXRefId=907755#imgXR http://www.wfan.com/pages/3706726.php?imageGalleryXRefId=907756#imgXR G-Fafif Jan 24 2009 11:53 AM It's a stump, but it's our stump. dgwphotography Jan 24 2009 01:07 PM soupcan Jan 26 2009 12:33 PM More at stadiumpage.com Frayed Knot Jan 26 2009 12:56 PM btw, Harvey Araton tees off the Yanx in a piece in Sunday's NYTimes. Specifically it's the sweet time they're taking in getting rid of the old park even though the new one is nearly finished and that the whole deal was based on trading stadium space for park land, park land that now seems destined for 2011 at the earliest. Their answer as to when they'll get around to even starting deconstruction is essentially "when we fuckin' get around to it - now go away and stop bothering us", even as they had no problem making a public spectacle about marching their offices across to the new digs the street last week. "Mayor Bloomberg, tear down this stadium" metirish Jan 26 2009 01:16 PM The arrogance of all involved is sickening , how I despise all things Yankees. SteveJRogers Jan 26 2009 02:14 PM Supposedly they are going to use YSII for a movie production, plus the plan was that either the Mets or Yankees would use YSII to play games if either Citi Field or YSIII weren't ready come April. So despite the arrogance, there really are valid reasons why it is still up. Frayed Knot Jan 26 2009 02:36 PM Even if using YSII was the on-paper 'just-in-case' backup plan in the event that some wild mishap went on with the construction of either of the new stadiums the virtually ZERO chance such a plan would ever be put into place has now shrunk to roughly that of the Lions being put into next week's Super Bowl were a case of bubonic plague to sweep through either the Steeler or Cardinal camp. And, as the article mentions, they've yet to even select a company that would do the deconstruction or set a date as to when it might start. So the reason it's not only still up but will be so for at least another year has everything to do with the fact that they haven't finished milking the old girl for every cent she's worth and if that means that the city that just re-re-issued more tax-free bonds as the price climbed over a billion dollars and the local kids in the neighborhood they claim to care so much for (whenever they weren't threatening to leave that is) go without a public park for the next few years well then that's none of their damn business. metirish Jan 28 2009 08:10 PM New York Times ] In Dead of Winter, Shea Stadium Is Melting Away By KEN BELSON Published: January 28, 2009 With each passing day, Shea Stadium, the home of the Mets since 1964, fades further from Citi Field, the team�s new home. In the last few weeks, demolition crews have been ripping down entire sections of Shea from both ends of the outfield decks toward its middle. What was once a semi-enclosed bowl with 57,000 seats is now a skeleton of a grandstand. In the first weeks after the Mets finished their final season at Shea (with another desultory loss that knocked them out of playoff contention), crews removed the seats, signs and anything else that could be sold to collectors or reused in city parks. Then demolition crews started knocking out the field level and the concrete decks that made up the loge and the mezzanine. But the structure of the stadium, built for nearly $30 million, was largely intact. Not so anymore. Since the beginning of the year, crews have clawed away at Shea�s walls and beams, exposing escalators, elevator banks and air ducts. The stands above Gates A and E have vanished and parts of the neon players that adorned the outside of the stadium are gone, too. Twelve sections of the upper deck still have their concrete floors, but the other sections that remain are outlined only by their steel beams. Unlike stadiums in other cities that have been imploded, Shea had to be taken down piece by piece because of building codes. The rat-a-tat-tat of the construction machinery drowned out the noise of the jets taking off from LaGuardia Airport. Tarps on chain link fences say �Almost Home,� a reference to the soon-to-be-opened Citi Field, but also the six-month process of erasing Shea. In all, nearly 10,000 tons of steel and another 2,500 tons of concrete will be pulled out of Shea. Some of the concrete will be ground up and reused as the base material for the parking lot that will be installed in its place. The lot will include space for 2,000 cars and signs marking where home plate and the pitcher�s mound once were. Team representatives said that the demolition will be completed some time in the coming weeks, which is not hard to imagine. On Wednesday, lines of dump trucks made their way onto what was once the outfield, weaving around piles of crumpled metal and concrete covered in snow. Several Web sites have sprung up that have chronicled the destruction of the place where Seaver once threw, Piazza once squatted and the Stork, George Theodore, once roamed. In a way, the sites are a testament to the morbid curiosity of Mets fans, who have endured many morbid Mets teams. �It�s interesting how they are doing it piece by piece,� said Eric Okurowski, a 31-year master�s candidate and a life-long Met fan from Babylon, N.Y., who runs stadiumpage.com. �Most old stadia are blown up and it takes just a few seconds. It�s pretty interesting seeing it come apart in pieces over the course of four months.� Okurowski and several other die-hard fans are organizing a final farewell at Shea at noon Saturday to share stories and take photographs of what is left of the ballpark. As Shea diminishes, Citi Field emerges. While less imposing than Shea, the new stadium, at least from the outside, has an elegance that Shea lacked. Instead of the lattice of concrete ramps that constituted Shea�s exterior, Citi Field is covered in brick and punctuated with arches and an entrance rotunda. Flood lights highlight the outside while klieg lights illuminate what is left of Shea. More Articles in Sports �A version of this article appeared in print on January 29, 2009, on page B18 of the New York edition. apmorris Jan 29 2009 04:58 PM ="metirish"]New York Times ] Okurowski and several other die-hard fans are organizing a final farewell at Shea at noon Saturday to share stories and take photographs of what is left of the ballpark. Anyone going? (bring a camera) metirish Jan 29 2009 05:28 PM People are going http://www.faithandfearinflushing.com/ G-Fafif Jan 30 2009 03:38 PM Damn, dirty apes... apmorris Jan 30 2009 04:43 PM ="G-Fafif"]Damn, dirty apes... Awesomenessness Kong76 Jan 30 2009 07:24 PM Classic pic. dgwphotography Jan 31 2009 05:41 AM that's just brilliant. Benjamin Grimm Jan 31 2009 05:44 AM That really is brilliant. metirish Jan 31 2009 05:47 AM Yeah it's very clever. themetfairy Jan 31 2009 06:19 AM It's just a model.... batmagadanleadoff Jan 31 2009 04:06 PM I'm guessing that the picture has something to do with the Statue Liberty finale in Planet of.... But that picture never came up on my browser. Not today. Not yesterday. Benjamin Grimm Jan 31 2009 04:14 PM Me neither. I had to right click, select "Copy Location" and paste the following in my browser: http://faithandfear.blogharbor.com/_photos/heston.jpg Edgy DC Feb 02 2009 07:05 AM You MANIACS! soupcan Feb 05 2009 07:11 AM From stadiumpage.com Just a matter of time now.... Benjamin Grimm Feb 05 2009 08:06 AM It's starting to look more like the grandstand you'd see at a race track. Frayed Knot Feb 05 2009 08:11 AM Never can say goodbye No no no no, I Never can say goodbye Even though the pain and heartache Seems to follow me wherever I go Though I try and try to hide my feelings They always seem to show Then you try to say you're leaving me And I always have to say no... Tell me why Is it so That I ... Never can say goodbye No no no no, I Never can say goodbye Evertime I think I had enough I start heading for the door There's a very strange vibration That pierces me right to the core It says turn around you fool You know you love her more and more Tell me why Is it so Don't wanna let yo go I never can say goodbye soupcan Feb 06 2009 10:55 AM These are from wcbs880.com. And there are a few more there as well. G-Fafif Feb 08 2009 03:10 PM Shea among the ruins... Kong76 Feb 08 2009 03:47 PM I called KB over and asked if she wanted to see an eerie picture on my laptop and she saw this and started bawling. "That's all that's left? When was that picture taken?" "Uh, I guess last time it snowed." ... (I'm obnoxious in real life too) and I told her this is like a 25 page thread of the destruction of Shea and we started talking about our Moms and games and tailgates and she got me all throaty too and crying and screw you all but ok I admit that it's hard to see the old thing disappear and I've been suppressing the sadness. There, I said it. dgwphotography Feb 09 2009 07:41 AM the first time we go there this year will be a shock. Edgy DC Feb 09 2009 07:50 AM We should go and have a tribute concert in the parking lot. G-Fafif Feb 09 2009 10:37 AM ="Kong76":1akaid2f]I called KB over and asked if she wanted to see an eerie picture on my laptop and she saw this and started bawling.[/quote:1akaid2f] My wife, who worked downtown throughout the fall of 2001, invoked Ground Zero in terms of what it reminded her of looking at. soupcan Feb 13 2009 10:09 AM Another from baseballfever.com metirish Feb 13 2009 10:27 AM Great pictures over there...taken this morning from the #7 train Benjamin Grimm Feb 13 2009 10:48 AM They should leave that last chunk in place. smg58 Feb 13 2009 12:34 PM I drove past it the other day. It's really sad to see it. soupcan Feb 14 2009 07:21 AM I'm at LaGuardia waiting for a flight. Drove past Citi and Shea. Shea looks so sad and insignificant. I'm excited and wistful at the same time. cooby Feb 14 2009 08:22 AM Please, check for ice and geese. Not joking. soupcan Feb 14 2009 08:38 AM We're flying Continental - what could go wrong? dgwphotography Feb 14 2009 09:44 AM ="metirish"] It's fitting that that's the last piece left... Frayed Knot Feb 14 2009 09:49 AM Think of it as an image of Koosman throwing the final pitch of the '69 WS. It could be Orosco/'86 too but it looks more like Koosman. dgwphotography Feb 14 2009 09:51 AM hmmmm.... I always saw Matlack in that image... dgwphotography Feb 14 2009 09:57 AM ="Iubitul"]hmmmm.... I always saw Matlack in that image... Actually, no. Bob Ojeda. SteveJRogers Feb 14 2009 11:49 AM ="Iubitul"] ="Iubitul"]hmmmm.... I always saw Matlack in that image... Actually, no. Bob Ojeda. What is that watermark on the other side of the card top? A Boy Named Seo Feb 14 2009 11:58 AM ="metirish"]Great pictures over there...taken this morning from the #7 train Nice pic, Irish. Poor, little Shea getting swallowed up by Citi on both sides. Kong76 Feb 15 2009 01:46 PM We took a ride out there today. We packed up a camera, a couple of Heineken keg cans (KB drove) and set out. I was kind of emotional getting ready but by the time we were in the car and on our way I was kinda excited. There were a bunch of people milling about doing the same thing we were and while I didn't talk to anyone we all smiled and nodded to each other like we got it. What we really should have done was cooked a few hot dogs one more time but the beer was enough I guess to count as a tailgate of sorts. The pictures posted all over the internet get redundant after awhile I suppose, but I got a few unique images. metirish Feb 15 2009 02:20 PM Great pictures , thanks. themetfairy Feb 15 2009 03:08 PM Nice shots Kase! LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Feb 15 2009 05:20 PM Thanks, sir. Beautiful and gut-wrenching. (All in all, this offseason's been like a months-long wake... except one where the guests take parts of the deceased with them as souvenirs.) A Boy Named Seo Feb 15 2009 05:30 PM Great shots, man. Love the one of you raising your can of Heiny in salutation. holychicken Feb 15 2009 05:49 PM Whoa, crazy, KC. I was there today too and took some very similar pictures. I was the jackass with my little brown dog off the leash. He was very happy to be out running about like that. Edgy DC Feb 15 2009 06:01 PM Should have a concert out there. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Feb 15 2009 06:05 PM Or an Irish wake? -Loading up on Jameson fifths/Cueing up "Body of an American" on the iPods. Kong76 Feb 15 2009 06:13 PM holyc: I was the jackass with my little brown dog off the leash <<< I didn't see any little brown pups running about. It's funny, but I really thought I'd run into at least one Mets' fan I knew out there. Running into you woulda been cool and we coulda done a Heiny. holychicken Feb 15 2009 07:42 PM Yeah, I figured there would be no one there but the when I saw the number of people there I figured I would see someone I knew. I checked everyone saw there, but didn't recognize anyone as well. I figured my dog would have stuck out tho more than me DocTee Feb 15 2009 08:27 PM Cool pics, thanks for sharing them. Did you pour some of that Heiny on the ground, ghetto style, to remember Shea, your fallen friend? Kong76 Feb 16 2009 01:11 PM Tee: Did you pour some of that Heiny on the ground <<< I have to confess that I did deposit some used Heiny behind some construction materials. Edgy DC Feb 16 2009 01:13 PM I'm going to guess you haven't puked at Shea since October 12, 1982. Kong76 Feb 16 2009 06:24 PM I had to google the date but I didn't yak that night. John Cougar Lunchbucket Feb 17 2009 09:25 AM Nice shotz guys. ah, screw it. Zvon Feb 17 2009 12:28 PM ="SteveJRogers"] ="Iubitul"] ="Iubitul"]hmmmm.... I always saw Matlack in that image... Actually, no. Bob Ojeda. What is that watermark on the other side of the card top? That's the Desert Storm logo/thing they added to sets of cards for the troops overseas back in the day. themetfairy Feb 17 2009 02:00 PM Zvon! How have you been? attgig Feb 17 2009 03:53 PM http://twitpic.com/photos/bluenautica one last piece remaining. Frayed Knot Feb 18 2009 11:14 AM Last piece down (video available via Newsday's main sports page) It's all over but the sweeping. soupcan Feb 24 2009 08:02 AM These I guess are almost a week old. From http://www.stadiumpage.com Edgy DC Feb 24 2009 08:14 AM To heck with your copyright, Gary. soupcan Feb 24 2009 08:32 AM 'Zactly. Zvon Feb 24 2009 02:38 PM ="Edgy DC":33njl1ow]To heck with your copyright, Gary.[/quote:33njl1ow] I'll photoshop that out. Shhhh. holychicken Feb 24 2009 03:59 PM ="Zvon":13ygrx4a] ="Edgy DC":13ygrx4a]To heck with your copyright, Gary.[/quote:13ygrx4a] I'll photoshop that out. Shhhh.[/quote:13ygrx4a] Simple crop job ought to do. Edgy DC Mar 16 2009 02:56 PM Mini-Shea ripped up from the ground. http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/03/16/you-too-can-own-a-piece-of-the-mini-city/ Farmer Ted Mar 16 2009 03:14 PM They couldn't save those two satellite dishes? Coulda saved me a few bucks with DirecTV.

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="batmagadanleadoff":3fgsp7nc] ="SteveJRogers":3fgsp7nc] ="batmagadanleadoff":3fgsp7nc]Franco debuted as a Met in 1990. Why would he wear an '86 jersey? Do you think that the actual '86 Mets would want this? This makes no sense.[/quote:3fgsp7nc] 1986 style, eh save for the change in pullover to button down and stitched on lettering instead of a nameplate for the NOB [/quote:3fgsp7nc] You forgot the anniversary patch the 86 Mets wore. That's what mainly distinguished the 86 uni from the 90 uni. You're right about the stitched on lettering, though. If you wanna get hyper technical, the 1990 unis had the Rawlings logo on the right sleeve. The 86 unis had no Mfr. logo on the sleeves.[/quote:3fgsp7nc] I didn't notice that the versions of the unis the 86ers were wearing out there had the actual 1986 jersey patch. Course they could have been wearing what they got (except for Doc of course) back in 2006, but the point was more the same style THAT the 1986ers were wearing at the ceremony. Not an actual 1986 Franco # 31 jersey that obviously only would be a Cincy Red jersey! batmagadanleadoff Sep 30 2008 08:57 PM The 86 Mets had the anniversary patch, and what appears to be a Majestic Mfr. Logo. The real 86 unis were manufactured by Rawlings; the sleeves were logoless. Mitchell & Ness made the flannelly '60's unis for Shea Goodbye. Apparently, more than one mfr. was involved in producing the various retro jerseys. AG/DC Sep 30 2008 09:21 PM Pure 90s Mets I salute: Rico Brogna Eddie Murray Todd Hundley, I guess Jose Vizcaino Jeff Kent Mlicki Manzanillo Yoshii While I'm in Japan, I salute Takashi Kashiwada, the man who opened Asia to the Mets. Know who'd be a cool invite (and maybe the Countdown Like It Oughta Be thought of this)? Steve Chilcott. themetfairy Oct 01 2008 02:24 AM Here are some pictures from Ralph Kiner Night (July 14, 2007). The view of Citi Field from the Shea tunnel near Gate E - Fans arriving from the subway - Citi Field rising behind Shea - themetfairy Oct 01 2008 02:27 AM Between the old and the new, before the September 14, 2008 Mr. Met Dash - themetfairy Oct 01 2008 06:07 AM This is an old photo. How old? Pre-MiniKnight old - the kid in the backpack is his older brother, who is now significantly taller than I am, and the little girl is now off to college. Oh, and that's me in the middle. In 1994 the Mets entered into a deal that included the installation of Nickelodeon's Extreme Baseball at Shea mini theme park just beyond right field. Living in the City with a 4-year-old and a toddler, ya gotta believe we made a lot of trips to that park. We were there for its opening, due to D-Dad's business connections, playing in the theme park along with some of the Mets who checked it out before that night's game (the only mar in that incredibly fun evening was the news that Dwight Gooden had entered rehab for the second time). When our planned baseball birthday party for our daughter at Shea (yes - there was a time in her life when she was actually into that kind of thing and didn't wince at the thought of baseball) was unworkable due to the strike, we amended the plan and had her party at the Nickelodeon park (for those of you who remember what Nickelodeon was into back then, you'll be amused to know that I was slimed. Slime is kind of like green vanilla pudding with an odd consistency...). This picture, though, was taken at a more routine time. We were at the park one afternoon (possibly 4th of July) and took a tour of Shea that included the clubhouse and the field. The kids and I sat in the Mets dugout while D-Dad took this picture. I generally hate having my picture taken, but this was an occasion that was worthy of an exception - themetfairy Oct 01 2008 06:12 AM This is a picture that iubitul took. D-Dad, a couple of friends and I had just completed the Run to Home Plate. We're in the Shea outfield, and the picture was taken above from the Picnic Area - (Psst - iubitul - did you ever scan the other photos from that day? There are a couple that would be fun to post if you did). G-Fafif Oct 01 2008 06:19 AM Not a photo-related comment but regarding invitees, Todd Hundley did receive a shoutout from Howie Rose when he ran down the list of those who couldn't be with us today. I was struck that the mostly dismal 1991-1996 Mets were represented by John Franco and nobody else, essentially. HoJo, Sid and Doc played on those teams, but aren't associated with them. Fonzie came up in '95, but he is a part of the postseason teams that came later in the mind's eye. So is Franco, I guess. Only because they went to the trouble of tracking down Doug Flynn, Craig Swan and John Stearns (and Mazzilli, I suppose, though he has '86 bona fides), did I get a little hung up on there not being a Rico Brogna (good fit, I hear), a Lance Johnson, or, as suggested, the Anthony Young. themetfairy Oct 01 2008 06:19 AM MK hanging out with some friends during a Mets Fan Club for Kids clinic. I think this was in 2005 - themetfairy Oct 01 2008 06:39 AM On the day I bought my good camera, I took this shot of David Wright connecting for a homer - Time will tell whether this was beginner's luck, but I'm happy with the shot. Benjamin Grimm Oct 01 2008 07:19 AM ="G-Fafif":2bw2zl3t]Not a photo-related comment but regarding invitees, Todd Hundley did receive a shoutout from Howie Rose when he ran down the list of those who couldn't be with us today. I was struck that the mostly dismal 1991-1996 Mets were represented by John Franco and nobody else, essentially. HoJo, Sid and Doc played on those teams, but aren't associated with them. Fonzie came up in '95, but he is a part of the postseason teams that came later in the mind's eye. So is Franco, I guess. Only because they went to the trouble of tracking down Doug Flynn, Craig Swan and John Stearns (and Mazzilli, I suppose, though he has '86 bona fides), did I get a little hung up on there not being a Rico Brogna (good fit, I hear), a Lance Johnson, or, as suggested, the Anthony Young.[/quote:2bw2zl3t] I was thinking along similar lines this morning in the car. There weren't many players present whose careers were strictly in the lean years and the in-between years. There were a few guys from the 1960's, like Frank Thomas, and 70's guys like Flynn, Swan, Stearns, and Kingman, but overall, very few of the returnees were guys who didn't appear in a World Series for the Mets. batmagadanleadoff Oct 01 2008 09:50 AM ="G-Fafif":1bl0kw4g]Only because they went to the trouble of tracking down Doug Flynn, Craig Swan and John Stearns (and Mazzilli, I suppose, though he has '86 bona fides), did I get a little hung up on there not being a Rico Brogna (good fit, I hear), a Lance Johnson, or, as suggested, the Anthony Young.[/quote:1bl0kw4g] Though I would've liked to see Anthony Young walk onto the Shea field last Sunday, as I already mentioned, I did not reasonably expect to see him. Until George Theodore was announced. Once The Stork was delivered, I thought that anything was possible and that everyone was in play. But not Bobby Bonilla. G-Fafif Oct 01 2008 10:05 AM ="batmagadanleadoff":36rnfjz9] ="G-Fafif":36rnfjz9]Only because they went to the trouble of tracking down Doug Flynn, Craig Swan and John Stearns (and Mazzilli, I suppose, though he has '86 bona fides), did I get a little hung up on there not being a Rico Brogna (good fit, I hear), a Lance Johnson, or, as suggested, the Anthony Young.[/quote:36rnfjz9] Though I would've liked to see Anthony Young walk onto the Shea field last Sunday, as I already mentioned, I did not reasonably expect to see him. Until George Theodore was announced. Once The Stork was delivered, I thought that anything was possible and that everyone was in play. But not Bobby Bonilla.[/quote:36rnfjz9] Shea Amnesty could have been the theme and everybody but Vince Coleman could have been welcomed and absolved. I could have applauded Bonilla. I could have applauded Alomar. I could have applauded Hebner just for old times' sake. I think, if sufficiently intoxicated, I could have applauded Glavine. But not Vince Coleman. A.Y., however, needed no amnesty. He was always treated well amid the disaster that went down around him. It would have been a classy Storklike move. themetfairy Oct 01 2008 02:26 PM MiniKnight's first game at Shea - I love how D-Dad caught Mr. Met's pixelated image smiling and waving on the scoreboard in the background. metsguyinmichigan Oct 01 2008 08:40 PM That's Mr. Met bestowing his blessing! Awesome shot! themetfairy Oct 01 2008 09:01 PM D-Dad says thanks soupcan Oct 02 2008 08:58 AM Not a Shea photo per se but still... I was looking through a box of crap in my attic and came across a Mets scorecard from 1985. I thought 'how cool would it be if this was from opening day and I actually scored it?'. I opened it up and guess what - it was and I did. Surprising to me because that opener I drove down from Syracuse with about 6-7 fraternity brothers and sat in the bitter cold of the upper deck. I'm sure I was drunk and my hands were frozen. In those days though I did score pretty much every game I went to. I checked UMDB against my log and I didn't do a half-bad job... Heep appears in the boxscore but not on my card, until you look closer - In the 7th it appears Heep was announced but I suppose Whitey replaced Campbell with Hassler for the lefty/righty thing so John Christensen took the AB. You can see that I wrote Heep's name but then crossed it out. Why was Davey PH-ing Heep for Straw though? Game was tied 5-5 men on first and second 2 out. What am I not seeing or remembering? Also - Note that Staub pinch-hit in the 9th and Darling ran for him. John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 02 2008 09:10 AM Holy shit, nice handwriting. Are you an architect? soupcan Oct 02 2008 09:11 AM Oh gosh really? Thanks. Its usually much neater, I was kind of embarassed to post it because I thought it was pretty sloppy. Not an architect but an illustrator in a previous life. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 09:13 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 02 2008 09:15 AM Strawberry opened the 1985 season hurt. His opening day start was in question and he did not play at all in the Mets next game. He missed a significant amount of playing time in 1985 to injuries. May I ask what frat you belonged to? Centerfield Oct 02 2008 09:13 AM ="themetfairy"]MiniKnight's first game at Shea - I love how D-Dad caught Mr. Met's pixelated image smiling and waving on the scoreboard in the background. That's amazing. MK already looks like himself. Not sure if that made any sense. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 09:17 AM How come my post above displays a "last edited" note even though this is the very next post? soupcan Oct 02 2008 09:19 AM ="batmagadanleadoff"]May I ask what frat you belonged to? Thanks for the Strawberry answer. HahnSolo Oct 02 2008 09:21 AM ="soupcan":3uc7yjo2] In those days though I did score pretty much every game I went to.[/quote:3uc7yjo2] You scored in the Shea upper deck? I should hang out at more games with you. metirish Oct 02 2008 09:24 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 02 2008 09:25 AM Brilliant posts from metfairy and soup...MF , the Mets cap looks over sized....what happened? Great score card soup , I scored my first game ever this season, in the second to last row up top behind home plate. It didn't look anything like yours though... soupcan Oct 02 2008 09:24 AM ="HahnSolo":2y3lkhxq]You scored in the Shea upper deck? I should hang out at more games with you.[/quote:2y3lkhxq] It was a looooong time ago. Its in me but its been hibernating for a while. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 09:29 AM ="soupcan":3jnfvsp6]Thanks for the Strawberry answer.[/quote:3jnfvsp6] That's on Comstock, with a lot of other frat houses, right? Did you see my Sherman Douglas post[/url:3jnfvsp6] from a few days ago? soupcan Oct 02 2008 09:32 AM Yup. 721 Comstock to be exact. I did see the Douglas post, you were right. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 09:33 AM Back on topic. Frayed Knot Oct 02 2008 09:34 AM ="batmagadanleadoff"]Strawberry opened the 1985 season hurt. His opening day start was in question and he did not play at all in the Mets next game. He missed a significant amount of playing time in 1985 to injuries. Most of his missed time was on account of when he rolled over on his thumb making a catch in a game I was at - in mid-May I think it was. ]How come my post above displays a "last edited" note even though this is the very next post? All that means is that you edited something in that post after the thread was active again. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 09:39 AM ="Frayed Knot":nd2dud0e] ="batmagadanleadoff":nd2dud0e]Strawberry opened the 1985 season hurt. His opening day start was in question and he did not play at all in the Mets next game. He missed a significant amount of playing time in 1985 to injuries.[/quote:nd2dud0e] Most of his missed time was on account of when he rolled over on his thumb making a catch in a game I was at - in mid-May I think it was. [/quote:nd2dud0e] You're right. But he opened the season with a nagging injury as well. I have the video of that complete game. I'll try and find it but it may take me a while, because I haven't converted that tape to disc. My old VHS's are a disorganized mess. dgwphotography Oct 02 2008 09:43 AM Soup - that's great stuff. I was sitting down underneath in the loge that day. Freaking Hernandez - strikes out in a big spot leading off the top of the 10th. So unclutch. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 09:49 AM ="Frayed Knot":itaev3d1]All that means is that you edited something in that post after the thread was active again.[/quote:itaev3d1] What do you mean by "thread was active again"? Based on experience, I thought that the "last edited" notation was activated only if the post was edited after someone else posted a subsequent message. soupcan Oct 02 2008 09:55 AM ="batmagadanleadoff":2of6od08]What do you mean by "thread was active again"? Based on experience, I thought that the "last edited" notation was activated only if the post was edited after someone else posted a subsequent message.[/quote:2of6od08] You edited at 11:15. CF posted at 11:13. OE: No, I'm wrong. That's weird. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 10:01 AM ="soupcan":3pdd5j9f] ="batmagadanleadoff":3pdd5j9f]What do you mean by "thread was active again"? Based on experience, I thought that the "last edited" notation was activated only if the post was edited after someone else posted a subsequent message.[/quote:3pdd5j9f] You edited at 11:15. CF posted at 11:13[/quote:3pdd5j9f] I dunno about that. When I originally posted that message, it appeared after CF's post. Why would my subsequent minute later edit appear based on an unedited post showing prior to my post, and thus, prior to my edit? batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 10:02 AM ="soupcan":2yeh8i49]OE: No, I'm wrong. That's weird.[/quote:2yeh8i49] Now you get it. themetfairy Oct 02 2008 10:38 AM ="Centerfield"] ="themetfairy"]MiniKnight's first game at Shea - I love how D-Dad caught Mr. Met's pixelated image smiling and waving on the scoreboard in the background. That's amazing. MK already looks like himself. Not sure if that made any sense. It makes sense. He's recognizable, even at three weeks old. Irish - I'm not sure what was up with the hat. That soon after a C-section I thought I was doing well getting dressed at all seawolf17 Oct 02 2008 12:03 PM Actually, as long as the message has been read at least once, then it gets the "edited" tag. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 02:26 PM ="seawolf17":neearbs2]Actually, as long as the message has been read at least once, then it gets the "edited" tag.[/quote:neearbs2] I'm not convinced because I know for sure that on occasion, I have edited some of my messages as much as a day after posting them. So long as my message in question was always the last one in the thread, the "last edited" note was never triggered. I know that others read the post after it was posted but prior to my edit based on the page view count. So based on my personal use, merely reading a post wouldn't be enough to trigger the edited notation if that post was ever to be edited. AG/DC Oct 02 2008 02:31 PM How about if somebody else had already hit the response button, even if they hadn't submitted? Frayed Knot Oct 02 2008 02:34 PM I think the mods should just confess that they're monitoring all of BatMags movements and activities. Nothing personal mind you, just be careful what you say in the bathroom. You never know who's listening. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 02:47 PM ="Frayed Knot":1klmkujp]I think the mods should just confess that they're monitoring all of BatMags movements and activities. Nothing personal mind you, just be careful what you say in the bathroom. You never know who's listening.[/quote:1klmkujp] That's what I always thought. Do you know that my avatar disappeared mysteriously? And that the feature that would allow me to simply submit another avatar is missing from my control panel or whatever it's called? What do you make of that, huh? dgwphotography Oct 02 2008 02:55 PM I don't remember if I've posted this one before: Fireworks Night, July 3, 2006: soupcan Oct 02 2008 03:02 PM Wow. cooby Oct 02 2008 03:37 PM ="soupcan":1twkt7gk] In those days though I did score pretty much every game I went to.[/quote:1twkt7gk] HAHAHAH, I am sure though that by now somebody else has already beaten me to this line, I'll go back and look cooby Oct 02 2008 03:40 PM Yep! themetfairy Oct 02 2008 03:50 PM ="Iubitul":2bej8qlv]I don't remember if I've posted this one before: Fireworks Night, July 3, 2006: [/quote:2bej8qlv] Whether it's a rerun or not, it's gorgeous. soupcan Oct 02 2008 04:48 PM ="cooby":1hpi6tfp] ="soupcan":1hpi6tfp] In those days though I did score pretty much every game I went to.[/quote:1hpi6tfp] HAHAHAH, I am sure though that by now somebody else has already beaten me to this line, I'll go back and look[/quote:1hpi6tfp] DOH! I didn't realize HahnSolo was taking the piss! I'm a moron. metsguyinmichigan Oct 02 2008 07:27 PM ="themetfairy":2i6sr6pi] ="Iubitul":2i6sr6pi]I don't remember if I've posted this one before: Fireworks Night, July 3, 2006: [/quote:2i6sr6pi] Whether it's a rerun or not, it's gorgeous.[/quote:2i6sr6pi] Clearly you're too good at this for it to just be a hobby. Are you a professional? I'm just in awe. I snapped shots of some of the same small details that you did -- like the little NYs in the grates around the trees -- yet you picked a really cool, unconventional angle to shoot it. Beautiful and creative. dgwphotography Oct 03 2008 12:32 AM ="metsguyinmichigan"] Clearly you're too good at this for it to just be a hobby. Are you a professional? I'm just in awe. I snapped shots of some of the same small details that you did -- like the little NYs in the grates around the trees -- yet you picked a really cool, unconventional angle to shoot it. Beautiful and creative. Thanks metsguy. I'm not a professional, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night... Seriously, it's a hobby - I'm a web developer by trade. But, it's also a passion that centers me. I can have a completely lousy day at work, but if I get to spend 15 productive minutes behind my camera, I'm completely relaxed and centered... Here's a couple of oldies. Please ignore the quality - my film scanner isn't working, so I had to scan the prints on a flatbed... July 4, 1986 - Nolan Ryan pitching to Gary Carter: September 18, 1986 - The best part of this pic is Backman's expression. Hungover much? John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 03 2008 05:46 AM Just look how much better those old shots look without Keyspan signs, giant dunkin donuts cups, too-dark blue paint, etc etc. This thread is going to make me dig out what I can find, but I'll start with this classikc: batmagadanleadoff Oct 03 2008 08:24 AM ="Iubitul":1jek1hyd]I don't remember if I've posted this one before: Fireworks Night, July 3, 2006: [/quote:1jek1hyd] I was surprised to read that you're not a pro. Professional is the first word that came to my mind when I saw this beautiful picture of Shea with the fireworks. Where were you sitting (or standing) when you took the picture of Carter batting against Ryan? AG/DC Oct 03 2008 08:33 AM If I remember him describing that photo last year, he put his camera down, satisfied he got the shot he wanted, and noticed the Mets team photographer right next to him going for the same shot. seawolf17 Oct 03 2008 08:34 AM Lost in that shot is the kid in the Wright shirt, bottom right corner, watching the fireworks. A nice touch. dgwphotography Oct 03 2008 11:56 AM ="batmagadanleadoff":2duv67l2]Where were you sitting (or standing) when you took the picture of Carter batting against Ryan?[/quote:2duv67l2] Thanks :-) I was able to sneak down to the first row behind home plate - got a lot of good shots that were on KC's site. dgwphotography Oct 03 2008 12:04 PM ="AG/DC":1gfkczpr]If I remember him describing that photo last year, he put his camera down, satisfied he got the shot he wanted, and noticed the Mets team photographer right next to him going for the same shot.[/quote:1gfkczpr] That was the first time I shot the fireworks, back in 1990. They had a photo contest sponsored by Kodak every year - I had won in the memorabilia category in 1989, and had my picture in the 1990 yearbook. So, I had the idea to try and shoot the fireworks that July - that's when I ran into Marc Lavine. When the 1991 yearbook came, and I saw his fireworks shot on the cover, I knew there was no way that mine made it into the yearbook. There's a post script to that story: I ran into Marc again in 2006. I snuck around to behind home plate in loge to take pictures of Mike Pelfrey in his ML debut. Marc was standing in the walkway right next to me. A security guard came over and started giving Marc a hard time about standing there. I leaned over the railing and asked him, "What, doesn't he recognize you?" Gotta love the security at Shea. Kong76 Oct 03 2008 05:44 PM The old school stuff is still there if anyone wants to re-explore .... http://www.kcmets.com/DGWPhotography/photonew1.htm metsguyinmichigan Oct 03 2008 05:48 PM I love the wallpaper shot of Reyes as a B-Met! SteveJRogers Oct 03 2008 06:25 PM ="Iubitul":2lf7a8xg] They had a photo contest sponsored by Kodak every year - I had won in the memorabilia category in 1989, and had my picture in the 1990 yearbook.[/quote:2lf7a8xg] I'm shocked that a Nikonian like you would stoop so low as to enter a contest run by Kodak! = dgwphotography Oct 03 2008 06:43 PM ="SteveJRogers":38evkptp] ="Iubitul":38evkptp] They had a photo contest sponsored by Kodak every year - I had won in the memorabilia category in 1989, and had my picture in the 1990 yearbook.[/quote:38evkptp] I'm shocked that a Nikonian like you would stoop so low as to enter a contest run by Kodak! =[/quote:38evkptp] Film, Steve. Film. I loved Kodak 64 slide film. Actually, starting in 1995, Kodak offered the DCS460[/url:38evkptp]. It was a 6mp digital camera which used a Nikon N90s SLR for the body. soupcan Oct 03 2008 09:07 PM ="Iubitul":2hzt6uz2]That was the first time I shot the fireworks, back in 1990. They had a photo contest sponsored by Kodak every year - I had won in the memorabilia category in 1989, and had my picture in the 1990 yearbook. [/quote:2hzt6uz2] So I read this and flipped through my '90 yearbook - holy cow - is (was) all that stuff in the picture yours? G-Fafif Oct 04 2008 04:04 AM I ran back to the '90 yearbook as well and was quite impressed with the collection as well as the photograph. A copy of "Nails" even! I'll bet Lenny Dykstra never read it. dgwphotography Oct 04 2008 05:28 AM Thanks guys. Yes, all that stuff in the picture is mine, and that collection has only grown... Of course I have a copy of Nails, my wife was such a big Dykstra fan, she even, gulp, rooted for the Phillies for a while when he got traded... soupcan Oct 06 2008 07:57 AM Taken on Opening Day 1987... Notice that there are no neon players on Shea yet. Sorry about the quality - haven't figured out the best settings for photos on the scanner yet. metirish Oct 06 2008 08:06 AM Those are great pictures soup , maybe it's the contrast but it looks cold and bleak that day.Is that guy wearing a batting helmet? DocTee Oct 06 2008 08:07 AM If you hadn't told me those were from 1987, I'd ve guessed they were from a decade earlier (based on the vehicles in the parking lot). AG/DC Oct 06 2008 08:08 AM Old school. That's how Met fans roll. soupcan Oct 06 2008 08:15 AM ="metirish":1lvfa5e8]Those are great pictures soup , maybe it's the contrast but it looks cold and bleak that day.Is that guy wearing a batting helmet?[/quote:1lvfa5e8] Cold and bleak - yes. Batting helmet - yes. ="DocTee":1lvfa5e8]If you hadn't told me those were from 1987, I'd ve guessed they were from a decade earlier (based on the vehicles in the parking lot).[/quote:1lvfa5e8] I agree - isn't it funny how its always the cars in photos that give a person a sense of the age of the picture? ="AG/DC":1lvfa5e8]Old school. That's how Met fans roll.[/quote:1lvfa5e8] Damn skippy. soupcan Oct 06 2008 08:31 AM Notice no skyline on the scoreboard. Round cut-outs in foul territory on either side of the plate. Never knew what those were for until I watched a DVD of game 4 of the '69 Series. During player intros before the game, Cuellar was warming up in it, tossing from there. Can you see straw-hat, hand-rolling lady in the front row behind homeplate? That's before they added the additional VIP seats and effectively put her 10 or so rows back. What the heck's going on at second base? AG/DC Oct 06 2008 08:37 AM I like the life-size bendable plastic Keith Hernandez figure out there. Nothing says "dreary opening day" like Ralph Kiner walking alone through the shade in his raincoat. soupcan Oct 06 2008 09:06 AM You think that's Ralph? I was going to guess Cashen. metirish Oct 06 2008 09:07 AM I was thinking M. Donald Grant . soupcan Oct 06 2008 09:08 AM He was long gone by then. metirish Oct 06 2008 09:08 AM Of course he wasn't even with the mets then...never mind me. Actually I meant Nelson Doubleday but I'm still probably wrong. soupcan Oct 06 2008 09:23 AM That could be Nelson. I don't think his hair was completely white yet in '87. batmagadanleadoff Oct 06 2008 09:24 AM I think it's Cashen, though it's hard to tell. I don't think it's Kiner; that's not Ralph's way of walking. AG/DC Oct 06 2008 09:26 AM Funny, I think that's exactly what makes him look Kineriffic. Funnier still is that I doubt either of us has seen Kiner walk more than a handful of times, but we both have a distinctive impression. Among other reasons, I think it's Ralph because he appears to be coming from a press scrum. batmagadanleadoff Oct 06 2008 09:31 AM ="soupcan"]That could be Nelson. I don't think his hair was completely white yet in '87. Maybe not, but it was surely on its way. That was the first game back since Wilpon wrested away Nelson's controlling interest in the club. Straw and Keith went at each other that Spring. Doc was in Smithers and at age 22, would never be consistently great again. Backman's "forty fuckin' car crashes" was already proving prophetic figuratively, if not literally. John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 06 2008 09:41 AM I would guess Doubleday. themetfairy Oct 06 2008 09:50 AM A couple of pictures from the 1987 opener - Opening ceremonies - First Pitch - John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 06 2008 09:57 AM Check out skinny Barry soupcan Oct 06 2008 10:00 AM Nice ones Fairy. Apparently you had much better seats than me... AG/DC Oct 06 2008 10:00 AM I like the area around the apple hat, strewn with empty crates and lurking hoods. metirish Oct 06 2008 10:03 AM I like how metfairy's picture helps answer who the people out in center field are in the picture soup posted, kind of cool that two members can post similar pictures for the same opening day in 1987. Farmer Ted Oct 06 2008 10:09 AM Any photos of Banner Day in the archives? Those would a nice treat. themetfairy Oct 06 2008 10:11 AM ="soupcan":19xbemwi]Nice ones Fairy. Apparently you had much better seats than me...[/quote:19xbemwi] Thanks soup. I worked for a law firm in 1987. There were only two good things about the job. One was my office (Empire State Building, 49th Floor, southern view) and the other was that the firm had season tickets and one of the partners would occasionally offer two of the seats to D-Dad and me. themetfairy Oct 06 2008 11:23 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 06 2008 11:45 AM I went into the old photo albums to scan some pictures from 1994's Nickelodeon's Extreme Baseball at Shea experiment. These are from the VIP Opening Party on June 28, 1994. I have pictures of each of my kids at about age 2 with John Franco. This is the one with my older son - We wouldn't have wanted to try to wipe the smile off of Bobby Bo's face - Back in 1994, we had no reason to dislike Jose Vizcaino - themetfairy Oct 06 2008 11:25 AM July 4, 1994. I previously posted the picture of myself with the kids in the dugout. Here are some other photos from that day. From the stadium tour that we took that day - themetfairy Oct 06 2008 11:30 AM Those of you who know my daughter now will be shocked to hear that there was a time she actually rooted for the Mets. We planned to have her 5th birthday at a game at Shea, but the plans were changed on account of strike. We had the birthday at the Nickelodeon park instead. The birthday girl - Cute cake - If you remember Nickelodeon at the time, slime was a big thing. The birthday girl didn't want to be slimed herself, but wanted to slime her mom instead. Let it not be said that I've never done anything for that girl - metirish Oct 06 2008 11:41 AM Absolutely classic , the clothes the uniforms , the sunglasses , everything. We need a thread for classic Mets and Shea pictures like these. Benjamin Grimm Oct 06 2008 12:02 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 06 2008 12:04 PM .. Benjamin Grimm Oct 06 2008 12:03 PM I've been thinking of putting a Shea slideshow on the UMDB. I have a few pictures of my own of the "Shea experience" that I've taken over the last couple of years. Some with architectural details, some of fans crowding through the gates, etc. I've been meaning to ask for submissions of similar photos, and I guess this is as good a time and place as any to start. I'm more interested in "neutral" photos rather than those that feature smiling friends or family members. Some of the photos posted in this thread would be great for that. If anyone who's posted any photos objects to the pictures being used in this manner, please let me know. (I intend to specifically ask permission to use any of these before I actually do so.) A couple of weeks ago I created a prototype slide show. Take a peek if you like: http://www.leaptoad.com/mets/slidetest.php Some day there will be similar slideshows available to all visitors, and they'll have individual themes. Right now I'm slowly putting together one that will capture the events surrounding the final day at Shea Stadium. themetfairy Oct 06 2008 12:32 PM Nice slideshow BG. And I have no objection if you'd like to use any photo that I've posted on the UMDB metirish Oct 06 2008 12:34 PM I like the prototype, nice work. themetfairy Oct 06 2008 06:07 PM May 30, 1999 was a Beanie Babies giveaway day at Shea. I was writing for Mary Beth's Bean Bag World Magazine at the time, and i was able to get press credentials for the game. I was constantly expecting security to tap me on the shoulder and tell me that I didn't belong on the field, but they didn't. Here's my press pass - Diamond Vision - D-Dad took this shot of me from the Field Level - Olerud and the Shea Scoreboard - The Diamond Vision later, from the Upper Deck - Pictures of players to follow.... themetfairy Oct 06 2008 06:12 PM Most of the players were incredibly good sports about having their picture taken with the Beanie Baby du Jour. My big regret was not asking Bobby Valentine for a picture, A) because he would have; and it was a Valentina Beanie Baby. The only one who turned me down was Todd Pratt, but since he was signing autographs at the time I'll give him a pass on that. Rey Ordonez - Roger Cedeno (whose solo homer provided the Mets with their only run as they lost that day) - Edgardo Alfonzo - Mike Piazza (who not only posed for this picture, but graciously gave me a little blather quote for my article) - Benny Agbayani - Fman99 Oct 06 2008 08:08 PM Great pictures MetFairy. How awesome to see those guys being good sports. Man I loved that '99 squad. themetfairy Oct 06 2008 08:23 PM They were a great bunch, for sure. cooby Oct 06 2008 09:16 PM NICE seawolf17 Oct 07 2008 12:57 PM Funny photos. What a neat experience. themetfairy Oct 07 2008 01:41 PM Thanks. It was surreal, and very cool soupcan Oct 13 2008 07:27 AM No seats! AG/DC Oct 13 2008 07:44 AM Well, that one guy has a seat. I think we can take him. metsguyinmichigan Oct 13 2008 09:51 AM He's guarding the stop sign before the people from MeiGray come to pick it up for the auction. soupcan Oct 15 2008 08:46 PM Found these pictures in a thread at baseball fever... AG/DC Oct 15 2008 09:44 PM Agh. themetfairy Oct 16 2008 04:42 AM That one gave me a bad dream last night Benjamin Grimm Oct 16 2008 08:13 AM I found this one the most painful: metirish Oct 16 2008 08:14 AM Great pictures , thanks soup. AG/DC Oct 16 2008 08:24 AM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ut1H4o_ie8c metirish Oct 16 2008 08:50 AM Great song edgy , a blast form the past. dgwphotography Oct 16 2008 09:01 AM I think I'm going through the anger phase of mourning. I'm sure I'll come around, but right now, I just so angry over everything regarding the dismantling of Shea, and the move to his corporate playground. Through it all, I keep getting the feeling that Shea was ours, and CitiField belongs to him. Bastard. AG/DC Oct 16 2008 09:19 AM I don'think it's us against him when the vast majority of the fans and media supported the move. If so, it's a slender us. Farmer Ted Oct 16 2008 10:52 AM Painful. But ther new place will be a treat. themetfairy Oct 16 2008 11:06 AM The new place will be ours. We'll make it ours, dammit! G-Fafif Oct 16 2008 03:51 PM Tour[/url:24y3xk17] of Citi Field parking lot... metirish Oct 16 2008 06:05 PM Whats with the actual hole in the pitchers mound? Benjamin Grimm Oct 16 2008 06:53 PM I'm guessing there was something buried under the mound that they wanted to retrieve. I don't have a great guess as to what it was. My best guess is some kind of camera, but I don't recall seeing any mounds-eye views on any telecasts. soupcan Oct 16 2008 07:06 PM ="metirish":35vh26wx]Whats with the actual hole in the pitchers mound?[/quote:35vh26wx] I'm guessing that they dug up the pitching rubber - to sell it of course - and that hole is a result. dgwphotography Oct 16 2008 07:18 PM no - I think that was where the plumbing was for the hose they used to water down the infield.... soupcan Oct 17 2008 07:31 AM ="Iubitul"]no - I think that was where the plumbing was for the hose they used to water down the infield.... Makes more sense. Wonder how much they're selling that for Zvon Oct 19 2008 06:48 PM I didn't realize this til recently. I thought I was bummed at seasons end because the team failed to get to the post season. But being a Met fan for 40 years, this is really something I'm used to. For the team, there was/is always next year. But this was it for Shea.... This is what really bummed me out. That they couldn't get Shea to the post season one more time. That would have been the way send her off. Great pictures here posted by all, and really fun to view. Iubitul, your pictures of Shea are breathtaking. Absolutely breathtaking and beautiful. Everybody, thanks for sharing them. themetfairy Oct 19 2008 06:51 PM Warewolf! Good to see you, man. Don't be a stranger! metirish Oct 20 2008 12:29 PM Found this persons work over at Faith & Fear( looks like a few have been posted here already) , very extensive collection of great pictures. What does picture #40 show? picnic area? http://sports.webshots.com/album/568107635SUQZeD Read this from Jason over at Faith and Fear. http://www.faithandfearinflushing.com/ Farmer Ted Oct 20 2008 07:37 PM Where the heck are they storing 55,000 seats? metsguyinmichigan Oct 21 2008 08:21 AM Uniwatch reports that the Agee marker appears to have been saved! Willets Point Oct 21 2008 08:25 AM ="Farmer Ted"]Where the heck are they storing 55,000 seats? dgwphotography Oct 22 2008 04:55 AM ="metsguyinmichigan"] Uniwatch reports that the Agee marker appears to have been saved! Yeah - probably to be sold... soupcan Oct 22 2008 07:40 AM Farmer Ted Oct 22 2008 02:52 PM I share Belushi's reaction. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gI3nb9x5VhY Zvon Oct 22 2008 06:11 PM ="soupcan"] Oh my.... This is difficult to witness. PiggiesTomatoes Oct 24 2008 08:29 PM A couple of shots from my only game this season -- at least it was a win. The only win against the pitiful Mariners this season. Down in Tampa now and don't get back to NY all that often for games. > My basehit at Shea. Fantasy Camp reunion in 2006... The place may have been a bit of a dump but it was our dump. Rockin' Doc Oct 25 2008 05:37 AM Nice pictures. Welcome to the pool. Nice handle, I hope you stick around. metirish Oct 25 2008 05:46 AM ="PiggiesTomatoes":2399a9u7] The place may have been a bit of a dump but it was our dump.[/quote:2399a9u7] Thank you and welcome. metsguyinmichigan Oct 25 2008 01:01 PM Great photos! I can't imagine how glorious it was to get that hit. Welcome aBordick! themetfairy Oct 25 2008 01:43 PM This little piggy is a welcome addition to the Pool - Welcome Zvon Oct 25 2008 07:00 PM Excellent pics Piggie! Actually batting at Shea must have been an incredible experience. Is that a female catcher? PiggiesTomatoes Oct 25 2008 07:59 PM Thanks, everyone, for the kind words. I'd joined some time ago but didn't visit for a while, then got locked out and getting back in was a bitch! Riffraff filter must work. Getting to play on the field was a thrill and yes, it was a female catcher. She was the only female in camp and was a trooper. Regards, JF Kong76 Oct 26 2008 05:03 PM PT: joined some time ago but didn't visit for a while, then got locked out and getting back in was a bitch! Riffraff filter must work <<< Read your email around 9 AM on Fri and answered, and had you set up before 6 PM that same day. No one was locked out and getting back was as easy as sending an email. PiggiesTomatoes Oct 26 2008 07:33 PM I wasn't being critical...thought that use of the term riffraff filter would have communicated sarcasm. That said, I'd attempted logging in unsuccessfully with my original password without luck and when I tried to use the forgot password link, I repeatedly received a message that my name and email address did not match. Then, I was unable to find an email address on the forum to contact, ultimately "googling" to find the admin addy. It wasn't easy...but I do appreciate the prompt reply once I emailed the correct address. JF G-Fafif Oct 26 2008 07:38 PM PT, Great pictures. At first glance I wondered how the Mariners game was suddenly being played in daylight. Per your sobriquet, let us know who will be ready first: Hausman or Kobel. Kong76 Oct 27 2008 05:41 AM Maybe it's me and I'm just being cranky and defensive but the email address is right up top: Everybody in the pool! Joining us for off-season hot stove discussion is easy. Shoot us an email [click here] Glad you re-found us. Willets Point Oct 27 2008 01:12 PM Welcome Piggie! You can hold the conch while you're here. soupcan Oct 28 2008 10:54 AM will the Dunkin' Dounts cup be the last man standing? metirish Oct 28 2008 10:57 AM Helps keep the workers running. Gwreck Oct 28 2008 11:46 AM It's somewhat refreshing that nobody was dumb enough to shell out the ~$5000 the greedy MeiGray group was asking for it. AG/DC Oct 28 2008 11:47 AM Or they're moving it to the new digs. seawolf17 Oct 28 2008 01:12 PM It'd be funny if they just left it in the parking lot. Benjamin Grimm Oct 28 2008 01:22 PM They do seem to have demolished around it. Maybe it will be moved to Citi Field. I imagine the new place will have some advertising, no? SteveJRogers Oct 28 2008 01:23 PM ="Gwreck":1zlwh6r8]It's somewhat refreshing that nobody was dumb enough to shell out the ~$5000 the greedy MeiGray group was asking for it.[/quote:1zlwh6r8] Say what you will about memorabilia sellers like MeiGray and Steiner, that probably really is the going rate for that kind of unique advertising as memorabilia. Honestly, there probably is a market for stuff like that; McDonald arches, Big Boys Big Boy, etc. Just no one that got involved in the Shea Memorabilia auctions was into it. metirish Oct 28 2008 01:28 PM ="SteveJRogers":1991yy98] Say what you will about memorabilia sellers like MeiGray and Steiner,[/quote:1991yy98] Thank you , I will. Fucking scum they are. Benjamin Grimm Oct 28 2008 01:33 PM I'm not sure I understand the animosity. metirish Oct 28 2008 01:39 PM Well he said say what you want so I did.... soupcan Oct 28 2008 02:15 PM I guess as long as there are people out there who are willing to pay those ridiculous prices then I don't have an issue with someone charging it. Capitalism and all that. I am upset at the kind of money they are asking for stuff though. I intended to get a pair of seats but $869.00? Really? For what will amount to a novelty in my yard? Then I looked around the website and I thought that this: ...would be cool. But those are up over $1,200.00. They so take advantage of our own feelings towards the team - hundreds of dollars for bricks, almost a grand for seats. Its just a little disappointing is all. soupcan Nov 01 2008 11:01 AM Say goodbye to the shrimpeaters! Field level frst base side is the first to go. Valadius Nov 01 2008 11:21 AM Do they HAVE to have debris strewn around that wonderful field? Kong76 Nov 01 2008 11:26 AM SJR: Say what you will about memorabilia sellers like MeiGray <<< Irish: Thank you , I will. Fucking scum they are <<< I know the guy who was the first premier club guy in line and I didn't get the impression that the guys willing to spend the cash thought MeiGray was hus- tling anyone ... they're brokers. He advertised the event to everyone on his memorabilia buying list and I assume he did so to generate interest among those who were obviously interested. I hope he got a kick back, it's the American way! I wrote back that they're gonna cause a few divorces to which he quipped, "never tell your wife what you're really spending on Mets' stuff!" soupcan Nov 01 2008 11:49 AM ="Valadius":3pluypt1]Do they HAVE to have debris strewn around that wonderful field?[/quote:3pluypt1] I think that's kinda unavoidable when you're tearing a structure down. What are they supposed to do - follow the bulldozers around with a broom and dustpan? metsmarathon Nov 01 2008 02:40 PM that's just silly. what they should do is gingerly remove each and every peice the way it was originally put in, and delicately hand carry it out of the stadium grounds, stepping only on the red carpet laid across the field, and place each dutifully salvaged quantum of the stadium into its own velvet lined receptacle wherein it will remain interred through the end of time. soupcan Nov 03 2008 07:55 AM Dunkin' Donuts Down! Benjamin Grimm Nov 03 2008 07:57 AM I expected it would be surrounded by a large puddle of spilled coffee. soupcan Nov 03 2008 07:57 AM Link There are more pictures on the site. ] November 1, 2008 Bulk of Shea Stadium awaits sale in Bridgewater company's warehouse By MICHAEL DEAK Staff Writer From the outside it looks like an unremarkable warehouse, not like the pyramids in Egypt that were built as mausoleums for the pharaohs. But inside that squat warehouse are treasures that, for New York Mets fans, are as valuable as anything that has ever been found inside the pyramids. It is the Bridgewater warehouse of the MeiGray Group, which has the task of selling all the contents of Shea Stadium, except for the seats. Warren resident Barry Meisel, a former sportswriter for the New York Daily News who is the president and chief operating officer of the MeiGray Group, doesn't want the exact location of the warehouse disclosed for security reasons because it houses thousands of items saved from Shea Stadium before the stadium's slow demolition started earlier this month. Everything is for sale, except for two items that Meisel bought for himself � a picture of the celebration after the Mets clinched the World Series in 1969, and the portion of the center field wall that bears the 410-foot marker. "I always wanted that," he said. Memorabilia Meisel estimated that the warehouse contains from 5,000 to 7,000 items from Shea Stadium. Some of the items are relatively minor, such as the hundreds of nameplates that were placed on the back of seats occupied by season ticket holders. There are numerous boxes of photographs taken from the walls of corridors, executive offices, suites and inside the stadium. The pictures are blown-up images of legendary Mets and the unforgettable moments from the team's 46-year history. In the middle of the warehouse is a nondescript pile of wood found at any demolition site. But, Meisel said, it is a special pile of wood � boards from benches in both the home and visiting team dugouts. The boards were never replaced in the dugouts but have been painted many times, he said. Also in the middle of the warehouse are the 150-foot foul poles that have been broken into 25-foot sections. There are rows of lockers from both the Mets and visitors' locker rooms, as well as cubicles from where players hung their clothes and kept their valuables during games. Throughout the warehouse are piles of outfield wall sections including the retired numbers of players and managers. Flags that flew at the top of the stadium have also found a home in the warehouse. There also are hundreds of signs from throughout the stadium � signs that hung on restroom doors and signs that directed fans to the subway station. A sign of team mascot Mr. Met saying smoking is prohibited in the stadium has already been sold for $100, Meisel said. And there are hundreds of curiosities: an orange water cooler with the Mets logo and a plaque from Seton Hall University honoring Frank Cashen, who was the Mets general manager in the 1980s and considered to be the architect of the team that won the 1986 World Series. There is even a lime marker that came from the Polo Grounds, the original home of the Mets, that was still used by the grounds crew at Shea. Toward the front of the warehouse is a cluster of fan assistance, concession and program booths that Meisel said would look great in any Met fan's backyard. One of the most intriguing items is the concrete marker that was placed in the left field upper deck where centerfielder Tommie Agee hit the longest home run in Shea Stadium's history, on April 10, 1969. Some of the most popular items salvaged from the stadium are not in the warehouse because they've already been sold. All of the stadium's 31 turnstiles have been sold. It was a daunting job, but all of the items were recovered from Shea Stadium after the last game of the season. Swing bidder Many of the items from Shea will be auctioned on the MeiGray's group's Web site. The first auction ended Friday, Oct. 31, but Meisel said there will be future monthly auctions. He estimates it will take a year to sell everything from the stadium. Proceeds from the sale will be divided among New York City, which owns the stadium, and the Mets Foundation, said Jay Horowitz, vice president of media relations for the Mets. The Mets Foundation funds and promotes a variety of charitable causes, including educational, social and athletic programs for young people. What people are willing to pay for some of the items has Meisel scratching his head. For example, the wrought-iron "tree surrounds" with the Mets logo that protected the trees in the parking lot are receiving bids of more than $1,000. Menu board signs from concession stands are fetching bids around $1,000. A section of the outfield wall goes for close to $900. Bids on ketchup and mustard holders with the Mets logo are more than $500. Even a neon Bud Light sign has a bid of $515. As a literal sign of better times, an outfield wall panel with an AIG advertisement had a bid of $1,420. "This (sale) only happens once every 45 years," Meisel said. A Jersey boy Meisel and his partner Bob Gray started the MeiGray Group in the 1990s. After 19 years as a sportswriter for the Daily News covering professional hockey and the New York Giants, Meisel said he became tired of traveling. Meisel's decision to channel his interest in sports into a new career came at an opportune time. With the economy growing steadily, the market for collectible sports memorabilia began to boom in the late 1990s. He developed the idea of selling authenticated jerseys that were worn by professional hockey players. He wrote a business plan and approached one of the teams that he used to cover, the New York Rangers, and in August 1997 signed an exclusive deal to sell the team's previously worn jerseys. The Rangers deal led to agreements with the New Jersey Devils. Next, the MeiGray group inked deals with NBA teams. An NHL or NBA player goes through about six jerseys during a season, three in the home uniform and three in the away uniforms, he said. Last week, as Meisel was sitting in the warehouse, he showed a jersey that had been worn the previous night by Elton Brand, an NBA veteran free agent, who had made his debut as a Philadelphia 76er on the night of Wednesday, Oct. 29. "It smells," Meisel said. "It's sweaty." But it's also valuable to collectors and fans of Brand. That's why representatives, working with the teams' equipment managers, of the MeiGray Group often go into locker rooms immediately after games to get the jerseys. The key to the business, headquartered in Branchburg, is the authentication process that guarantees buyers they are getting genuine items. The jersey comes with a letter of authentication with the team's letterhead, Meisel said. The MeiGray Group has seven full-time employees who are responsible for acquiring the items, cataloging and pricing them, selling them and then shipping them to the buyers. "We have a great staff," Meisel said, adding that he hires collectors to help him put values on the items. The company's growing reputation was one of the reasons why the MeiGray Group got the contract with the Mets to sell the memorabilia from Shea Stadium, which is owned by the City of New York. Meisel is no longer spending hours away from home traveling for his job, but said he works from 60 to 70 hours a week. "I'm happy," he said. "This is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity." John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 03 2008 07:58 AM ="soupcan"]Dunkin' Donuts Down! Finally some destruction I can support. It be cool if we cracked that open and Rachel Ray would come out naked. Edgy DC Nov 03 2008 08:01 AM it would be kind of cool to give the Agee marker to the Agee family. Ditto the Seaver/Stengel/Hodges numbers. Farmer Ted Nov 03 2008 08:42 AM The DD sign was an eyesore. Those stupid police lights and the K sign were bad ideas drawn up by some idiot in a board room. Edgy DC Nov 03 2008 08:47 AM Doesn't this look like they composed a Met jersey and photoshopped it onto a Yankee picture of Wille? metirish Nov 03 2008 08:48 AM ] Finally some destruction I can support. It be cool if we cracked that open and Rachel Ray would come out naked. Saw her recently and couldn't believe how heavy she has gotten. Benjamin Grimm Nov 03 2008 08:55 AM Rachael Ray is an example of how someone can be both cute AND unappealing at the same time. Edgy DC Nov 03 2008 08:58 AM Can we just not talk about happy homemakers from TV ever? Benjamin Grimm Nov 03 2008 09:04 AM metsguyinmichigan Nov 03 2008 09:53 AM ="Benjamin Grimm":2zdqcdh1]Rachael Ray is an example of how someone can be both cute AND unappealing at the same time.[/quote:2zdqcdh1] Well, if you go back to the early shows on Food Network, she was always a little chunky, part of her girl next door appeal. She certainly had a makeover when the show went big, and this year appeared to have some, um, surgical enhancements, in the chest area, unless they did some severe Photoshop work for the magazine covers. My crush on Rachael is well-known, and somewhat tolerated by my wife. Benjamin Grimm Nov 03 2008 11:14 AM It's not her weight that makes her unappealing, it's the noises that come out of her mouth. G-Fafif Nov 03 2008 11:42 AM ="Edgy DC":2j9ucmx8]Doesn't this look like they composed a Met jersey and photoshopped it onto a Yankee picture of Wille? [/quote:2j9ucmx8] This would explain why the Mets in recent years seemed so flat. metsguyinmichigan Nov 03 2008 12:10 PM ="Benjamin Grimm":1wzmvwjl]It's not her weight that makes her unappealing, it's the noises that come out of her mouth.[/quote:1wzmvwjl] She talks? Benjamin Grimm Nov 03 2008 12:17 PM She tries. themetfairy Nov 03 2008 01:02 PM She squawks. seawolf17 Nov 03 2008 02:46 PM ="soupcan":1mxbmvn9]A sign of team mascot Mr. Met saying smoking is prohibited in the stadium has already been sold for $100, Meisel said.[/quote:1mxbmvn9] FUCKIN' HELL. That's all I wanted from the stadium. I just left a message with someone at MeiGray. soupcan Nov 07 2008 07:18 AM Found these at baseball-fever.com First game ever at Shea... Last game ever at Shea... Benjamin Grimm Nov 07 2008 07:37 AM It was prettier when it opened than when it closed. Edgy DC Nov 07 2008 08:39 AM The pitch could have been in better condition. G-Fafif Nov 07 2008 09:00 AM A ballpark that looked better with a parking lot in the background will now itself be a parking lot. The irony is as thick as the outfield grass was thin. Benjamin Grimm Nov 07 2008 09:12 AM Looking at the two photos together really shows how much garishness was added to Shea over the years. I'm sure Citi Field with start out with a lot of that clutter already in place. I can only imagine what it will look like 40 years from now. (And I hope I live to find out! At this point, another 40 years is about as much as I care to get.) John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 07 2008 09:33 AM ="Edgy DC":2749cxyp]The pitch could have been in better condition.[/quote:2749cxyp] Shea was barely complete when it opened. They worked till the very last minute. They said it was very soft and muddy in the outfield. metirish Nov 07 2008 09:40 AM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":1qbr6llo] ="Edgy DC":1qbr6llo]The pitch could have been in better condition.[/quote:1qbr6llo] Shea was barely complete when it opened. They worked till the very last minute. They said it was very soft and muddy in the outfield.[/quote:1qbr6llo] Was there even a fence at the back behind CF separating it form the parking lot , it's hard to tell. soupcan Nov 07 2008 09:43 AM And half of the parking lot isn't even paved yet. Willets Point Nov 07 2008 09:46 AM All the cars are the same size though. soupcan Nov 11 2008 08:03 AM First base Field level is gone, Third base nearly so. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 08:14 AM One advantage to implosions (yes, I realize that wasn't possible in this case) is that they're quick. This is like a band-aid being slowly and painfully peeled off. seawolf17 Nov 11 2008 11:29 AM ="themetfairy":2tehg78d]One advantage to implosions (yes, I realize that wasn't possible in this case) is that they're quick. This is like a band-aid being slowly and painfully peeled off.[/quote:2tehg78d] No kidding. I should stop opening this thread. G-Fafif Nov 11 2008 12:26 PM That sure was some tadium. Zvon Nov 11 2008 12:57 PM ="themetfairy":3vpl9tnq]One advantage to implosions (yes, I realize that wasn't possible in this case) is that they're quick. This is like a band-aid being slowly and painfully peeled off.[/quote:3vpl9tnq] I couldn't have said it better. I have to say I am a bit surprised how the destruction of Shea is effecting me. It has to be this slow torturous way I'm viewing it bit by bit. ="seawolf17":3vpl9tnq]No kidding. I should stop opening this thread.[/quote:3vpl9tnq] I'm with you seawolf17. Edgy DC Nov 11 2008 01:12 PM We let this happen. More than a few advocated it's happening. It's no time to turn away now. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 01:22 PM I'll own up to wanting the new stadium. I'm not denying that. But I've seen this transition done in several other cities during the past few years, and to a team they've all handled it better than the Mets have. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 01:34 PM I'm enjoying the pictures and saving everyone one of them. Keep 'em coming, I stopped licking my wound about ten days ago. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 01:35 PM tmf: they've all handled it better than the Mets have <<< How so? soupcan Nov 11 2008 01:39 PM I'll miss the old girl too but c'mon. Think of what it will be like having wide walkways! Benjamin Grimm Nov 11 2008 01:42 PM Wide walkways and legroom are nothing to sneeze at. I'd feel differently if I still lived in New York. But as rarely as I get to Shea Queens to see the Mets play anymore, I don't think Citi Field will ever feel like home to me. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 01:44 PM I remember the Phillies homage to the Vet in 2003 - a stadium that was younger than Shea and didn't have nearly the history Shea did. IIRC they were the first to take down a number before each game, but they made sure that every number was taken down by someone with a meaningful connection to the team or the stadium (not a Lincoln Mercury dealer in the lot). Their post-game ceremony after their final game was very moving (I'll find the link to it shortly), without the idiotic delay that Mets fans had to endure after Shea's final game. They had books ghost written by the Phillies Phanatic helping prepare younger fans for the move. From top to bottom it just seemed like a much better thought out operation. Edgy DC Nov 11 2008 01:49 PM That has little to do with photos of the de-construction. Is a delay before a ceremony such a big deal? themetfairy Nov 11 2008 01:52 PM The delay before the ceremony was just endemic of the half-assed job the Mets did in properly celebrating Shea's final season. They had an opportunity to do the old girl real justice, and they dropped the ball every chance they could. I couldn't find that footage of the final game ceremony at the Vet on the Phillies' site (and I feel very dirty trolling around there - ick!). But it had much more of a well-planned feel to it. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 01:56 PM How did we get from handling the transition in a day by day demolition thread which you said other teams did better to closing ceremonies and silly number countdowns? themetfairy Nov 11 2008 02:06 PM ="KC"]How did we get from handling the transition in a day by day demolition thread which you said other teams did better to closing ceremonies and silly number countdowns? I mentioned the transition in general. You asked for details. I think that if the Mets did a better job in paying homage to Shea this past season that people wouldn't be as upset about its destruction as they are. Agree or disagree with that premise - it's merely a theory. Edgy DC Nov 11 2008 02:08 PM I wouldn't feel dirty seeking for it if you liked it. If you like it, you like it. It's all MLB's website anyhow. I'm just not ready to kick the Mets because they don't demolish the stadium in a manner comparable to the White Sox or the Rangers. Or such having anything to do with why folks say they won't open this thread. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 02:12 PM You seem to be switching gears, going from "we let this happen/some advocated for it" to "I'm not ready to kick the Mets." You cool with this or not? Kong76 Nov 11 2008 02:15 PM tmf: I mentioned the transition in general. You asked for details <<< How did all the others "to a team" handle the dismantling of their old stadium better than the Mets? Edgy DC Nov 11 2008 02:21 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Nov 11 2008 02:27 PM You're excerpting phrases out of sentences there. It's clear to anybody that I didn't support a new stadium. How it's demolished is a moot point and I don't see how it can be done better, or indeed has been done better by everyone else. Frayed Knot Nov 11 2008 02:25 PM Maybe they can demolish the stadium by bringing each piece out on a velvet pillow laid out on a sled pulled by a puppy dog. I'm sure we'd all feel better then. This wound-licking is getting too much. I want video of the destruction and i hope it's bloody. Benjamin Grimm Nov 11 2008 02:29 PM I don't think the Mets did such a bad job with the last year of Shea. Yeah, there were too many Lincoln-Mercury dealers pulling down the numbers. But I think the closing ceremony was nicely done. Very nicely done. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 02:36 PM The physical demolition of Shea has to be done in this manner because implosion is not possible. My point is that I don't think that people would be reacting to the demolition process as painfully as they are if the Mets had done a better job of honoring Shea properly in its final season. Benjamin Grimm Nov 11 2008 02:38 PM Speaking only for myself, I just find it a little bit sad. No pain though. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 02:39 PM I know people who are in real pain over this. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 02:44 PM There's no way I could cull what fairy's point was from what she typed, I don't read posters minds, we were talking about the demolition pics. Problem with getting too wrapped up in the Mets will never be the same with- out good ol' Shea is before you know it's twenty years from now and you're writing letters to the paper like Bob L about how greener the grass was there and popcorn fresher. The bathroom floors were even drier and less sticky 20 years from now too I bet and those wonderful sight lines ... themetfairy Nov 11 2008 02:50 PM If that's the case, then I weep for the yet-to-be-finished Citi Field. Frayed Knot Nov 11 2008 02:54 PM I think we're starting to sound like the wound-lickers we used to make fun of; - oh no, this stadium is being destroyed worse than any other stadium in the history of destroyed stadiums - only the Mets could paint their foul lines crooked - why did Shea have to die so young? Kong76 Nov 11 2008 02:57 PM tmf: I know people who are in real pain over this <<< Send 'em here! Edgy DC Nov 11 2008 03:00 PM ="Frayed Knot":3qcqh3up]I think we're starting to sound like the wound-lickers we used to make fun of; - oh no, this stadium is being destroyed worse than any other stadium in the history of destroyed stadiums - only the Mets could paint their foul lines crooked - why did Shea have to die so young?[/quote:3qcqh3up] Wait a minute, that second one wuz you. Edgy DC Nov 11 2008 03:00 PM ="KC"]tmf: I know people who are in real pain over this <<< Send 'em here! I think they're minors. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 03:02 PM Actually, Iubital's post yesterday ("it doesn't surprise me") started me on this build up of let's stop the wound licking that was bound to come out. I think. I ain't going back to look. (OE: meaning the foul line not lining up) themetfairy Nov 11 2008 03:18 PM ="Edgy DC"] ="KC"]tmf: I know people who are in real pain over this <<< Send 'em here! I think they're minors. No - the minors I know aren't as connected to Shea as most of the adults I know. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 03:24 PM How do they feel about the demolition? Do the also feel that it's being handled "to a team" much worse by the Mets? Or are they just bitter about the closing ceremonies and number countdown too? Send 'em here. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 03:32 PM Who are you talking about? Kong76 Nov 11 2008 03:39 PM The people who are in real pain over this, McFly. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 03:45 PM I'll leave it to them to specifically reply to you or not. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 03:50 PM If they're here (and I suspected they were) then you should have left them out of your poor defense to begin with and let them speak for themselves. You wiggled off like four hooks in this thread. G-Fafif Nov 11 2008 04:06 PM There is beauty, pain and joy in baseball. When they gut and pry apart where you experienced most of it, a person is likely to reflect on all three and feel, upon viewing the kinds of pictures in question, one of those sensations in particular. The beauty and the joy may have been carried out safely before MeiGray could sell them, but it is not surprising that the pain should linger and overshadow for many if not all across the duration of the demolition. Later? Who knows? We haven't been there yet. I suspect the beauty and the pain and the joy will coalesce into the warmer memories the magic of distance allows. Reality says somebody's doing a job in taking down Shea Stadium. Reality says the plan has been on the table long enough for everybody to adjust to the plan. But baseball and reality were never intended to mesh so easily. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 04:17 PM Eloquent as ever, and on topic. Bravo! themetfairy Nov 11 2008 04:29 PM ="KC":cumx5g68]If they're here (and I suspected they were) then you should have left them out of your poor defense to begin with and let them speak for themselves. You wiggled off like four hooks in this thread.[/quote:cumx5g68] Don't ask direct questions if you're not going to like the answers. What was I supposed to do? Ignore you? G-Fafif Nov 11 2008 04:32 PM ="KC":3vuetxpl]Eloquent as ever, and on topic. Bravo![/quote:3vuetxpl] Thanks much, but just throwing the last pitch of what TMF stated quite reasonably, I think...Benitez to the Fairy's Leiter, as it were. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 04:33 PM Thanks G. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 04:35 PM I disagree, I think she said something and then changed it to something else and then played on then something else. I have to stop, I'm gonna start getting PM's about causing waves in the bath tub. Frayed Knot Nov 11 2008 04:38 PM ="Edgy DC"] ="Frayed Knot"]I think we're starting to sound like the wound-lickers we used to make fun of; - oh no, this stadium is being destroyed worse than any other stadium in the history of destroyed stadiums - only the Mets could paint their foul lines crooked - why did Shea have to die so young? Wait a minute, that second one wuz you. Yes, but I was just noting the fact that they looked off via the angle in that aerial shot. What followed was a reply which stated that only the Mets could do something like that as if the new stadium really will have foul poles 150' from home plate on account of this organization being so incompetant that the thought of seeing where the lines actually lead hasn't yet occured to anyone during this whole multi-million dollar operation. I'd bring up the one post wondering if they really had to ruin the grass with all that machinery during the deconstruction but I don't think that one was totally serious (although I waver at times). G-Fafif Nov 11 2008 04:39 PM I find it way more upsetting that I posted my way up from Richie Hebner only to morph into Jerry DiPoto. Who ranks these things? Oh right. Us. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 04:46 PM ="KC":6z6ktyl3]I disagree, I think she said something and then changed it to something else and then played on then something else. I have to stop, I'm gonna start getting PM's about causing waves in the bath tub.[/quote:6z6ktyl3] I did nothing of the kind. I answered a question that you asked me. You chose not to like the answer. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 05:05 PM I ain't outlining it for you, and don't be so fucking snippy. You're not always right. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 05:07 PM I'm just playing defense here. I'm not the one accusing people of changing things around. Nor have I done or said anything that merits you swearing at me. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 05:16 PM I'm sorry, but you're just freakin' maddening sometimes. Poorly handled transition does not equal demolition. Go wiggle yourself. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 05:24 PM I never said it equaled demolition. I was talking about people's reactions to the demolition. And nothing I said justifies the kind of reaction you're having. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 05:33 PM No, your first response was about the closing ceremonies and the count down .... have you been drinking with cooby? I'm comfortable with my reaction for purposes of this thread and I apologize for cursing and that's all I have to say on the matter. C'mon, "go wiggle yourself" was pretty funny. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 05:43 PM No, I have not been drinking. This is what you consider an apology? I made a comment about the transition being handled poorly. You asked me to extrapolate. I did, and you reacted in a pretty hostile manner. If you don't like my opinion that's your prerogative. But you needn't go off like that just because you disagree with it. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 05:50 PM I apologized for cursing, that's it. Your reading comprehension skills are taking a beating in this thread. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 05:54 PM No. I'm simply taking a beating for not seeing an issue exactly the way that you do. Kong76 Nov 12 2008 04:20 AM A beating? If I was gonna get nasty I'd dig up a picture of you in a Phillies uniform and really stick it to you. I'm ultimately taking the beating when we argue because the bath house mentality of this board will almost always side with you. Mean ol' KC. *sigh* HahnSolo Nov 12 2008 06:42 AM Hi, I'm here for the "intelligent, lively and provocative discussion of the Mets, Ed Kranepool, and on a good day, the Ramones." Am I in the right place? Kong76 Nov 12 2008 06:58 AM seawolf17 Nov 12 2008 07:17 AM ="HahnSolo":3u9spspm]Hi, I'm here for the "intelligent, lively and provocative discussion of the Mets, Ed Kranepool, and on a good day, the Ramones." Am I in the right place?[/quote:3u9spspm] Eff that. I come here for the weekly KC/Scarlet fights. Edgy DC Nov 12 2008 07:35 AM I missed a GREAT NIGHT. Zvon Nov 12 2008 08:48 PM whats all this then....? Pages of posts but nary an image. Addressing the issue of pain... Some of us do feel pain in regard to Shea's demise. It's not even that bad. Its a pang....a feeling of remorse. It hurts on a level that's hard to express, and its a passing phase. Eventually this will be a thing of the past. Not yet though, seeing it being ripped down bit by bit, here and at other places as well. I have been going around and collecting pictures of Shea myself. Anything I come across. Early days,recent times,....even the demolition. So I bop in here and I see there have been additions to the Shea Photo thread, and I'm like, "Oh kool! Maybe its one I haven't seen. Hope its the older Shea...but any nice pic of Shea would be sweet to see..." I hope to see pictures of Shea in way of a recollection, an homage. That's just me though. Maybe there should be a seperate thread for Shea's demolition, ...I dunno. But it's really not a big deal. As you can see I'll still check out this thread, hoping for kool pics of Shea Stadium when it was in use. I've come across some really great Shea photos online recently, especially at Baseball Fever. Like this one. I am 95% positive that thats me running onto the field after game 5 of the '73 NLCS. Edgy DC Nov 12 2008 09:05 PM Classy look. Apparently, nobody was allowed in that day --- by law --- except 21-year-old white males with shoulder-length hair, workshirts, and bellbottoms. Zvon Nov 12 2008 09:15 PM ="Edgy DC":3fjgok91]Classy look. Apparently, nobody was allowed in that day --- by law --- except 21-year-old white males with shoulder-length hair, workshirts, and bellbottoms.[/quote:3fjgok91] Not so. I was 15. Kong76 Nov 13 2008 04:34 AM EDC: Classy look. Apparently, nobody was allowed in that day --- by law --- except 21-year-old white males with shoulder-length hair, workshirts, and bellbottoms ------------- I never noticed, but you're right. It looks like they just opened a gate for field level gen adm for a Deep Purple concert or something and all the guys are scrambling to get a good spot. Cool picture to be in. G-Fafif Nov 13 2008 05:42 AM It's fascinating, from a cultural perspective, to contrast the crowds storming the field images from '69 and '73. The tumult of the '60s may have waned away from the ballpark, but its remnants seem to have become codified in places that were largely shielded from change while change was at its most intense: like the ballpark. (Which is probably what pissed Dick Young off so.) It's often been said there was more of an edge to the '73 rushing of the field than '69's, for what that's worth. I don't remember the Orioles complaining they were frightened for their well-being the way the Reds did. That YouTube clip that MLB pulled earlier this year, the pregame show from Game Four of the '73 World Series, showed (to me anyway) what a different world we were living in versus four years earlier, not just in style but substance. If you recall, Kubek, Seaver and Hunter were all taking Charlie Finley to task for his handling of the Mike Andrews situation. Questioning authority, kind of a radical concept in establishment circles in 1969, was part of the polyester fabric of the game by 1973. Probably not a coincidence this was the same year as the Senate's Watergate hearings nor that within two weeks there would be such a backlash to the Saturday Night Massacre. soupcan Nov 14 2008 09:54 AM Latest shots from wcbs880 chopper... Field level is completely gone now. Here's some interesting stuff that I got from baseball fever. Shea Demolition Plans: Edgy DC Nov 14 2008 09:58 AM What's a "NON-BEARTING STRUCTURE"? Benjamin Grimm Nov 14 2008 10:00 AM Before anyone else beats me to it, let me just get this out of the way: It figures! The stupid Mets can't even get the spelling right! Willets Point Nov 14 2008 10:04 AM Question for Zvon. Is your shirt open showing your Siegfried & Roy hairless chest or were you wearing a fleshtone t-shirt? Zvon Nov 14 2008 01:26 PM ="Willets Point"]Question for Zvon. Is your shirt open showing your Siegfried & Roy hairless chest or were you wearing a fleshtone t-shirt? lol. I never went around displaying my slinky chest so I'm sure that's a T-shirt. Doubt it was fleshtone, probly orange. Thing is I'm not positive that's me. First time I saw the pic I looked right past that guy searching for me. Eventually I got back to him and thought that must be me. I have no recollection of what I wore that day. I do know I was a skinny guy with long hair who always wore white sneaks. If I had on a flannel shirt, which I wore often enough, it be rolled up at the sleeves. And the path I took puts me right about where that guy is. After that I ran to the edge of the home plate grass, stopped... saw that girl on the mound (looks like she's going for the rubber <[joke setup<]).. our eyes met...I ran to her on the mound and we did a Koosman/Grote type jump and hug. Twirled in a circle, split and ran in different directions. I never saw her again but I'll never forget that moment. Benjamin Grimm Nov 14 2008 01:27 PM I had no idea that Marlo Thomas was there that day! metirish Nov 14 2008 01:34 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Nov 14 2008 01:34 PM WOW , what a great picture , guy in the yellow shirt at second stands out and I count three suits that might be security , one to the right of yellow shirt and one to the left of Buddy and one n front of him. Edgy DC Nov 14 2008 01:34 PM That's a great story. How about Barry Gibb chicken dancing to your right? Zvon Nov 14 2008 01:37 PM ="Edgy DC":38ctzctd]That's a great story. How about Barry Gibb chicken dancing to your right?[/quote:38ctzctd] No hug for him. Zvon Nov 14 2008 02:31 PM The thing about storming (and that's a very apt description) of the field in '73, and why it did get out of control, was that every kid wanted to be part of that moment, to be part of the celebration like in '69. And as the game went on we all had the same idea : to get down to field level so it was possible. We did the same thing during game four. I ended up on the 1st base side then. Rose hit that extra inning homer and the celebration was over. I was right on the rail behind the added box on the 3rd base side late in game 5. The Reds families were sitting in them. Eventually the game was stopped and they were led out to the Reds bullpen for their safety. And it's not that we were bothering them personally in any way, shape or form (fans did taunt them when they were being led away though, lol). Its just that there was a sea of people behind them that became like one big giant swaying creature. We could not move independently, could hardly even breath. And you know what I did then? I jumped the rail into the make shift box. Like the Reds families I was a bit concerned for my safety. Unfortunately everyone along the rail ended up jumping into the box like lemmings. Again we became crammed. I saw the fans on the 1st base side did the same thing, but they were so packed in that the little wooden wall that enclosed the section collapsed, and they spilled out onto the field. The game had to be halted again. Tug was on the mound at this point. He was pissed off. I remember him approaching the pile of people waving his arms over and over in an upward motion as if to say EVERYONE! BACK UP AND INTO THE STANDS! It was pretty crazy. I got so sandwiched in the corner of the box that I felt that we were gonna burst out on this side too. I jumped out and went down into the Reds dugout. I was able to hide in plain sight there for quite a few minutes, sitting on a stool in the far corner of the dugout. Eventually a cop came up to me and asked what I was doing there. I told him...I was trying to stay alive, lol. He told me I had to stay alive back up in the stands. This was when I was shown on TV, when the cop was talking to me. (my parents and brothers got to see that from home. My bros thought it was the koolest thing, my folks were like wtf were you doing?). I've told this story before here (I have also mentioned looking for the footage of me on TV and it is nowhere to be found.) but I don't think I ever stressed the point that what happened occurred because too many kids had this dream of being in a '69 like celebration highlight reel. And what actually happened was we so embarrassed the team, the game, the city, that that footage will forever be locked away and forgotten. One of my best Shea memories though. A Boy Named Seo Nov 14 2008 02:40 PM I re-read that part about you being in the Reds dugout a couple times thinking I misread or misunderstood you. That's the craziest thing I've ever heard. Wild story, man. Thanks for sharing. dgwphotography Nov 15 2008 12:28 PM I think I'm one of the one's in real pain over this that TMF is referring to. The thing is not once has the countdown, the ceremonies, or anything that the Mets did or didn't do play a role in it. It is simply the fact that a place that has been a desired destination for me for over 35 years is no longer there. Shea is a place that I dreamed about visiting since my aunt gave me my first yearbook in 1972. It's the knowledge that I will never feel the attachment to the new place that I do to the old place. It's the fact that it was a home away from home of sorts - a place where I knew ever nook and cranny, where I knew where to get the best knishes, or the best dogs. A place that is home to so many memories. Whatever the Mets did or didn't do to mark this occasion plays no role in how I feel about it. Benjamin Grimm Nov 15 2008 01:43 PM I agree with that, except for the part about feeling real pain. I feel a touch of sadness, and a sense of loss, but I wouldn't call it pain. Kong76 Nov 15 2008 04:31 PM I'd like to get a copy of that CAD file with the non bearting typo. Hell, they show part of the guy's name and addy and it was easily discovered who and where he is. Maybe he's got a sense of humor and would leak one to us. Edgy DC Nov 15 2008 07:56 PM Scarsdale. Vic can take a short drive and knock on his door. cooby Nov 16 2008 08:19 PM Zvon, great picture, great stories! cooby Nov 16 2008 08:20 PM And what does "Non Bearting" mean? soupcan Nov 18 2008 11:01 AM All of these from baseball-fever.com Edgy DC Nov 18 2008 11:11 AM What? The auction house couldn't generate any action on the spongetech.com sign? Farmer Ted Nov 18 2008 11:17 AM Soup's top photo shows the location of our old seats. Crushing. Willets Point Nov 18 2008 11:25 AM ="Edgy DC":133d3wiq]What? The auction house couldn't generate any action on the spongetech.com sign?[/quote:133d3wiq] Maybe Bubba Sponge? Farmer Ted Nov 18 2008 11:31 AM Missed the Spongetech sign. Very sponge worthy. soupcan Nov 20 2008 10:01 AM More pictures available at nycsubway.org 9/1963 5/10/1964 8/1/1979 8/1/1979 Tiles removed between 1979 and 1980. 8/16/1980 9/24/2008 holychicken Nov 24 2008 09:01 AM Might be a bit late for this coming in after all of the destruction pics . . . but this is one of my favorite pictures of shea. It is my gf's younger sister. John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 24 2008 09:47 AM ="holychicken"]Might be a bit late for this coming in after all of the destruction pics . . . but this is one of my favorite pictures of shea. It is my gf's younger sister. Is she like, legal? holychicken Nov 24 2008 09:56 AM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":22rs38rb]Is she like, legal?[/quote:22rs38rb] Oh, I see. You see a dark-skinned person and immediately think "illegal immigrant." You should be ashamed! ehehhe SteveJRogers Nov 24 2008 11:37 AM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket"] ="holychicken"]Might be a bit late for this coming in after all of the destruction pics . . . but this is one of my favorite pictures of shea. It is my gf's younger sister. Is she like, legal? Uh, 'Bucket, aren't you very much attached at the moment? Now Chicken, I ask you the same question! Benjamin Grimm Nov 24 2008 11:39 AM I find it a little odd to be lusting after someone when all you know is the shape of her nose. Edgy DC Nov 24 2008 11:44 AM And which pores are and aren't corrupted. holychicken Nov 24 2008 12:06 PM Exactly. I didn't even post a picture of her most desirable body part, her posterior. Dear god, tell me my gf doesn't read this forum or she will surely whup me. seawolf17 Nov 24 2008 12:08 PM ="holychicken":21z05y4i]Exactly. I didn't even post a picture of her most desirable body part, her posterior. Dear god, tell me my gf doesn't read this forum or she will surely whup me.[/quote:21z05y4i] It's okay, you can still post it. We don't mind. Edgy DC Nov 24 2008 12:25 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Nov 24 2008 12:42 PM Butts, schmutz. Steve's a snot man. seawolf17 Nov 24 2008 12:38 PM ="Edgy DC":1hrzmxox]Butts, schmutz. Steve's a snot man.[/quote:1hrzmxox] Must be a Yankee fan thing. SteveJRogers Nov 24 2008 01:14 PM ="holychicken":26x42lii]Exactly. I didn't even post a picture of her most desirable body part, her posterior. Dear god, tell me my gf doesn't read this forum or she will surely whup me.[/quote:26x42lii] Geez, I was just following Bucket's lead. I mean I need some Met Chick love more than he does! soupcan Dec 04 2008 08:12 AM All from baseball-fever John Cougar Lunchbucket Dec 04 2008 08:18 AM Mike Mulligan always said his Steam Shovel could take down one stadium as fast as 100 men could in a day, although he was never quite sure of that. Benjamin Grimm Dec 04 2008 08:26 AM So now they're chewing away at the Loge level? Are they going to get to a point where there's just an unattached Upper Level (or Upper Tank as Keith Hernandez would call it) floating high in the air? soupcan Dec 04 2008 08:28 AM Yeah that's weird isn't it? You'd think they'd go top to bottom rather than the other way around. I'd like to think that they are professional demolishers and know what they are doing rather than they might just be stupid. Edgy DC Dec 04 2008 09:21 AM I don't know. These two guys aren't winning any smart awards with me right now. << dgwphotography Dec 04 2008 10:58 AM ="soupcan"] Zvon - is it me, or does this look tone-mapped? It looks like it has that HDR glow to it... HahnSolo Dec 04 2008 11:21 AM ="Edgy DC":2sv0q5gv] I don't know. These two guys aren't winning any smart awards with me right now. << [/quote:2sv0q5gv] Those two guys are still waiting for their hot pretzel ordered at the last home game. G-Fafif Dec 04 2008 12:30 PM Talk about your stiff Breezes playing havoc with Shea's outfield. Valadius Dec 04 2008 02:00 PM Part of me is rooting to see the picture of them ripping down that Fox News sign. Edgy DC Dec 04 2008 02:14 PM You strike me as somewhat partisan. Am I right? soupcan Dec 04 2008 02:17 PM Who Vlad? Nah - he's as fair and balanced as they come. Kong76 Dec 04 2008 03:45 PM I sent those latest photos to a friend of mine. He wrote back that he thought they were building a new stadium and not just fixing up Shea and slappin' on a new coat of paint like in years gone by. Chucklehead. Zvon Dec 04 2008 04:57 PM ="Iubitul"] ="soupcan"] Zvon - is it me, or does this look tone-mapped? It looks like it has that HDR glow to it... Yes. Especially in comparison with the others. It does bring the shaded areas out. Zvon Dec 04 2008 05:02 PM I wish they would get this over with. How are they gonna take down the highest heights sans demolition? themetfairy Dec 04 2008 05:12 PM It may take a while. I remember Old Comiskey Park was in a state of partial demolition when we visited New Comiskey in August of 1991. Kong76 Dec 04 2008 05:22 PM Z: How are they gonna take down the highest heights sans demolition? <=== Cranes and stuff, and how is what they've been doing not demolition? Kong76 Dec 04 2008 05:52 PM tmf: It may take a while. <=== They don't really have much time if they plan to level the joint and make it a parking lot. My guess is they'll finish well before opening day. I don't want to get into union contracts twice tonight, but they make it worth it to finish on time so there's no lolligaggin' nowadays. Zvon Dec 05 2008 03:10 PM ="KC":21ab889l]Cranes and stuff, and how is what they've been doing not demolition?[/quote:21ab889l] Sorry. I meant the usage of explosive charges. Kong76 Dec 05 2008 03:42 PM I figured, I was just goofin'. soupcan Dec 09 2008 08:13 AM Upper deck wrecking ball. BAM! Benjamin Grimm Dec 09 2008 08:32 AM They should have painted the wrecking ball to look like a baseball. metirish Dec 09 2008 08:33 AM That would have been really taking the piss on those that see that as a sad event. Benjamin Grimm Dec 09 2008 08:37 AM It would be a nod to tradition. It's what they did with the Ebbets Field wrecking ball. The same ball was used a few years later on the Polo Grounds: Benjamin Grimm Dec 09 2008 08:50 AM Cincinnati's Crosley Field too! soupcan Dec 13 2008 02:19 PM Wow - now I'm even starting to have a hard time looking... baseball-fever.com Benjamin Grimm Dec 13 2008 02:36 PM Yikes. Edgy DC Dec 13 2008 02:55 PM GYAH! Kong76 Dec 13 2008 07:10 PM They didn't sell the panels depicting the leap and Seaver's head? Edgy DC Dec 13 2008 07:23 PM It looks like the terrorist hit we were praying wouldn't happen actually did. Kong76 Dec 13 2008 07:44 PM Fuck terrorists, an accidental plane crash on a foggy evening in the wrong flight path was what I thought mighta happened one day. *62 Dec 14 2008 12:56 PM The pictures may be gruesome but the Stadium has overstayed its welcome. I may miss living in Brooklyn desperately, but 3,000 sq. ft. is way better than 920. Edgy DC Dec 14 2008 05:11 PM I don't get the reference. *62 Dec 14 2008 05:39 PM I love Shea for lots of reasons, and will miss it some ..... but it's a dump. Better? Edgy DC Dec 14 2008 05:53 PM I thought those numbers referred to something. Rockin' Doc Dec 14 2008 06:57 PM I think *62 lives in Florida if my memory is correct. He apparently once lived in Brooklyn and apparently hung out at Shea quite a bit in the past. I think he was stating that he missed living in Brooklyn, but preferred the 3000 sq. ft. of living space he can now afford over the 920 sq. ft. of living space he had in Brooklyn. Living in the south and comparing costs for homes with my friends and relatives relatives that live near the city, I understand what he is referring too. Then again, maybe I miss interpreted the meaning of his post. Either way, it's nice to have *62 posting here again. I hope he hangs around. soupcan Dec 16 2008 01:42 PM StadiumPage.com Benjamin Grimm Dec 16 2008 02:04 PM It's amazing that just ten weeks ago it was still full of color and people and noise. soupcan Dec 18 2008 07:45 PM soupcan Dec 29 2008 07:51 AM soupcan Jan 05 2009 12:40 PM G-Fafif Jan 05 2009 12:52 PM Impressive Photoshopping, Soup. Quite interesting to see what Shea Stadium would look like if somebody went mad and started to tear it down. If it wouldn't be too much trouble, please put Shea back together again. Thank you. batmagadanleadoff Jan 05 2009 01:18 PM ="soupcan"]http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q308/soupcan11/shea5-1.jpg That neon batter just reminded me of Gary Carter' follow through, particularly the way Gary would take an inside pitch and line drive one-bounce it to the outfielder for a single. Are there any other Mets that the neon hitter resembles? Edgy DC Jan 05 2009 02:35 PM Looks kind of slender for Carter. It also looks like a guy going to right, while Carter more typically pulled. metirish Jan 13 2009 01:35 PM from 01/10/2009 metsguyinmichigan Jan 13 2009 02:35 PM They're not saving any of the neon players? I know they're huge. but heck, they could slice them up and sell them for $10 a foot to geeks like me! Zvon Jan 13 2009 02:58 PM ="metsguyinmichigan":8phckkps]They're not saving any of the neon players? I know they're huge. but heck, they could slice them up and sell them for $10 a foot to geeks like me![/quote:8phckkps] Why sell just their feet? John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 13 2009 04:19 PM wham G-Fafif Jan 13 2009 04:53 PM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":1virpusd]wham[/quote:1virpusd] "Wake Me Up Before You Go Go" vs. "Baby I'm Your Man" Whoops...wrong thread. metirish Jan 15 2009 08:00 AM Newsday today has a classic Shea pictures collection. Die-hard fans dance in the aisles at 1:50 a.m. during the 21st inning of a 25-inning marathon game between the Mets and the Cardinals at Shea Stadium. (AP Photo / September 12, 1974) A view of Shea Stadium during the national anthem before a New York Mets-Los Angeles Dodgers game in 1973. (AP Photo / June 9, 1973) Fans rush onto the field and players celebrate after the Mets defeated the Baltimore Orioles to win the 1969 World Series. (AP Photo / October 16, 1969 A view of Shea Stadium after after souvenir-hunting fans ripped up the sod following the Mets' victory in the 1969 World Series. (AP Photo / October 16, 1969) Pirates first baseman Willie Stargell waves to the crowd at Shea Stadium during Willie Stargell Night at Shea. The man at left wiping his eye is Nelson Doubleday, Mets chairman of the board. (Newsday / Paul J. Bereswill / September 27, 1982 The new owners of the Mets pose at Shea Stadium. From left: Stephen E. O'Neil, president of City Investing Company; Nelson Doubleday, president of Doubleday Co.; Fred Wilpon, Chairman of the Board of Sterling Equities and John O. Pickett, owner of the NHL New York Islanders, who was instrumental in setting up the sale of the team. Pickett was not listed as an owner of the club. (AP File Photo / January 25, 1980) Car fire involving several cars in the Shea Stadium parking lot during a game in 2002. (AP Photo / April 27, 2002) Workers Angelo DiMaria, left, and Dominico Bannezo clean off old paint and rust as they get Shea Stadium ready for Opening Day in 2001. (Newsdya / J. Conrad Williams Jr / March 28, 2001) > soupcan Jan 15 2009 08:09 AM Amazing how much Jeff looks like his dad used to. Even down to the bad hairdo. ="metirish"] Edgy DC Jan 15 2009 08:10 AM Car Fire Day: Best. Promotion. Ever. HahnSolo Jan 15 2009 08:36 AM I miss crazy old Uncle Nelson. soupcan Jan 15 2009 08:39 AM Pop Quiz - without looking it up, how much did Nelson & Jeff pay for the Mets in 1980. If I remember right, I think it was $20 million. Farmer Ted Jan 15 2009 08:45 AM I only recall $350 million or so to finally kick Doubleday to the curb in '02. Edgy DC Jan 15 2009 09:02 AM Who pitched on Car Fire Day? metirish Jan 15 2009 09:07 AM ="Edgy DC":kdd41i0v]Who pitched on Car Fire Day?[/quote:kdd41i0v] I remember that game , I should say I remember it from watching it on TV and the announcers talking about the fire in the parking lot and showing it. I'll guess that Steve Trachsel pitched . John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 15 2009 09:14 AM ="soupcan":sgwypaic]Pop Quiz - without looking it up, how much did Nelson & Jeff pay for the Mets in 1980. If I remember right, I think it was $20 million.[/quote:sgwypaic] For some reason $21 million is the number I remember but geez. Edgy DC Jan 15 2009 09:14 AM Pedro Pistacio took a no-hiiter into the seventh the day after a crisp one-hitter by Testes. It was game two of a three-game sweep over Milwaukee and, for a minute there, it looked like the 2002 Mets had scrapped together a winning rotation of Leiter-Estes-Astacio-D'Amico-Trachsel. That plan blew up in the parking lot like so many SUVs. Edgy DC Jan 15 2009 09:15 AM Is that logo stitched together? It acually looks like a giant shoulder patch. soupcan Jan 15 2009 09:16 AM D'Amico. I had high hopes for him. soupcan Jan 15 2009 09:17 AM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":esm8z809]For some reason $21 million is the number I remember but geez.[/quote:esm8z809] I think you're right. dgwphotography Jan 15 2009 11:19 AM ="batmagadanleadoff"] ="soupcan"] That neon batter just reminded me of Gary Carter' follow through, particularly the way Gary would take an inside pitch and line drive one-bounce it to the outfielder for a single. Are there any other Mets that the neon hitter resembles? flip it around, and it's Mex. attgig Jan 15 2009 12:16 PM ="metirish"] Fans rush onto the field and players celebrate after the Mets defeated the Baltimore Orioles to win the 1969 World Series. (AP Photo / October 16, 1969 > i wonder if that will ever be allowed in pro sports. when did that stop? it's only on college that you see fans rushing the field. why is that? Edgy DC Jan 15 2009 12:19 PM Because student athletes don't need/demand protection from the masses the way millionnaire atheletes do. Why is the cop screening home plate doing the time warp? metirish Jan 15 2009 12:23 PM How about the guy down the RF line jumping from the stands? Benjamin Grimm Jan 15 2009 12:23 PM I think it stopped in 1986, at least in New York. The fans rushed the field after the division clincher, but the mounted cops prevented it in the World Series. I think, though, that the Phillies had the cops on horseback for the 1980 World Series. John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 17 2009 12:20 PM I went out there this morning, photos on facebook. Here's a vid shot as the 7 train arrives in Willets Pt. metirish Jan 17 2009 01:59 PM Great pictures btw. soupcan Jan 18 2009 01:53 PM These are from baseballfever... Kong76 Jan 18 2009 02:08 PM Even dollar cost averaging down to ~ 7 1/2, that sums up my Citigroup stock feelings. I've been somewhat unaffected by most of the images, but this one is particularly eerie to me: Kong76 Jan 18 2009 02:10 PM I know the home opener is late this year, but are they really gonna have the ol' girl completely gone by then and a parking lot installed? I thought they'd be more far along. Benjamin Grimm Jan 18 2009 03:30 PM I'm not sure they have to. The existing parking lot served Shea for the last few years, and Shea held more fans than Citi will. Kong76 Jan 18 2009 03:37 PM I don't mean they have to, I just thought that was the plan. Since groundbreaking, parking there has been a pain in the neck and I took the train mostly to games. I like to tailgate, plan on doing it a lot this year, and it's easier to do with a car. John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 18 2009 04:26 PM ="Kong76":3gm6qt5k]I know the home opener is late this year, but are they really gonna have the ol' girl completely gone by then and a parking lot installed? I thought they'd be more far along.[/quote:3gm6qt5k] Official plan is the last bits of Shea are to be disappeared by June 30. Those photos put mine to shame! metirish Jan 23 2009 02:23 PM Vince Coleman Firecracker Jan 23 2009 02:43 PM An auto body shop in a Quonset hut. Fantastic. Willets Point Jan 23 2009 02:44 PM I've got dibs on "City * Field * Collision" as my band's name. Frayed Knot Jan 24 2009 11:28 AM The ends of the horseshoe are starting to disappear http://www.wfan.com/pages/3706726.php?imageGalleryXRefId=907755#imgXR http://www.wfan.com/pages/3706726.php?imageGalleryXRefId=907756#imgXR G-Fafif Jan 24 2009 11:53 AM It's a stump, but it's our stump. dgwphotography Jan 24 2009 01:07 PM soupcan Jan 26 2009 12:33 PM More at stadiumpage.com Frayed Knot Jan 26 2009 12:56 PM btw, Harvey Araton tees off the Yanx in a piece in Sunday's NYTimes. Specifically it's the sweet time they're taking in getting rid of the old park even though the new one is nearly finished and that the whole deal was based on trading stadium space for park land, park land that now seems destined for 2011 at the earliest. Their answer as to when they'll get around to even starting deconstruction is essentially "when we fuckin' get around to it - now go away and stop bothering us", even as they had no problem making a public spectacle about marching their offices across to the new digs the street last week. "Mayor Bloomberg, tear down this stadium" metirish Jan 26 2009 01:16 PM The arrogance of all involved is sickening , how I despise all things Yankees. SteveJRogers Jan 26 2009 02:14 PM Supposedly they are going to use YSII for a movie production, plus the plan was that either the Mets or Yankees would use YSII to play games if either Citi Field or YSIII weren't ready come April. So despite the arrogance, there really are valid reasons why it is still up. Frayed Knot Jan 26 2009 02:36 PM Even if using YSII was the on-paper 'just-in-case' backup plan in the event that some wild mishap went on with the construction of either of the new stadiums the virtually ZERO chance such a plan would ever be put into place has now shrunk to roughly that of the Lions being put into next week's Super Bowl were a case of bubonic plague to sweep through either the Steeler or Cardinal camp. And, as the article mentions, they've yet to even select a company that would do the deconstruction or set a date as to when it might start. So the reason it's not only still up but will be so for at least another year has everything to do with the fact that they haven't finished milking the old girl for every cent she's worth and if that means that the city that just re-re-issued more tax-free bonds as the price climbed over a billion dollars and the local kids in the neighborhood they claim to care so much for (whenever they weren't threatening to leave that is) go without a public park for the next few years well then that's none of their damn business. metirish Jan 28 2009 08:10 PM New York Times ] In Dead of Winter, Shea Stadium Is Melting Away By KEN BELSON Published: January 28, 2009 With each passing day, Shea Stadium, the home of the Mets since 1964, fades further from Citi Field, the team�s new home. In the last few weeks, demolition crews have been ripping down entire sections of Shea from both ends of the outfield decks toward its middle. What was once a semi-enclosed bowl with 57,000 seats is now a skeleton of a grandstand. In the first weeks after the Mets finished their final season at Shea (with another desultory loss that knocked them out of playoff contention), crews removed the seats, signs and anything else that could be sold to collectors or reused in city parks. Then demolition crews started knocking out the field level and the concrete decks that made up the loge and the mezzanine. But the structure of the stadium, built for nearly $30 million, was largely intact. Not so anymore. Since the beginning of the year, crews have clawed away at Shea�s walls and beams, exposing escalators, elevator banks and air ducts. The stands above Gates A and E have vanished and parts of the neon players that adorned the outside of the stadium are gone, too. Twelve sections of the upper deck still have their concrete floors, but the other sections that remain are outlined only by their steel beams. Unlike stadiums in other cities that have been imploded, Shea had to be taken down piece by piece because of building codes. The rat-a-tat-tat of the construction machinery drowned out the noise of the jets taking off from LaGuardia Airport. Tarps on chain link fences say �Almost Home,� a reference to the soon-to-be-opened Citi Field, but also the six-month process of erasing Shea. In all, nearly 10,000 tons of steel and another 2,500 tons of concrete will be pulled out of Shea. Some of the concrete will be ground up and reused as the base material for the parking lot that will be installed in its place. The lot will include space for 2,000 cars and signs marking where home plate and the pitcher�s mound once were. Team representatives said that the demolition will be completed some time in the coming weeks, which is not hard to imagine. On Wednesday, lines of dump trucks made their way onto what was once the outfield, weaving around piles of crumpled metal and concrete covered in snow. Several Web sites have sprung up that have chronicled the destruction of the place where Seaver once threw, Piazza once squatted and the Stork, George Theodore, once roamed. In a way, the sites are a testament to the morbid curiosity of Mets fans, who have endured many morbid Mets teams. �It�s interesting how they are doing it piece by piece,� said Eric Okurowski, a 31-year master�s candidate and a life-long Met fan from Babylon, N.Y., who runs stadiumpage.com. �Most old stadia are blown up and it takes just a few seconds. It�s pretty interesting seeing it come apart in pieces over the course of four months.� Okurowski and several other die-hard fans are organizing a final farewell at Shea at noon Saturday to share stories and take photographs of what is left of the ballpark. As Shea diminishes, Citi Field emerges. While less imposing than Shea, the new stadium, at least from the outside, has an elegance that Shea lacked. Instead of the lattice of concrete ramps that constituted Shea�s exterior, Citi Field is covered in brick and punctuated with arches and an entrance rotunda. Flood lights highlight the outside while klieg lights illuminate what is left of Shea. More Articles in Sports �A version of this article appeared in print on January 29, 2009, on page B18 of the New York edition. apmorris Jan 29 2009 04:58 PM ="metirish"]New York Times ] Okurowski and several other die-hard fans are organizing a final farewell at Shea at noon Saturday to share stories and take photographs of what is left of the ballpark. Anyone going? (bring a camera) metirish Jan 29 2009 05:28 PM People are going http://www.faithandfearinflushing.com/ G-Fafif Jan 30 2009 03:38 PM Damn, dirty apes... apmorris Jan 30 2009 04:43 PM ="G-Fafif"]Damn, dirty apes... Awesomenessness Kong76 Jan 30 2009 07:24 PM Classic pic. dgwphotography Jan 31 2009 05:41 AM that's just brilliant. Benjamin Grimm Jan 31 2009 05:44 AM That really is brilliant. metirish Jan 31 2009 05:47 AM Yeah it's very clever. themetfairy Jan 31 2009 06:19 AM It's just a model.... batmagadanleadoff Jan 31 2009 04:06 PM I'm guessing that the picture has something to do with the Statue Liberty finale in Planet of.... But that picture never came up on my browser. Not today. Not yesterday. Benjamin Grimm Jan 31 2009 04:14 PM Me neither. I had to right click, select "Copy Location" and paste the following in my browser: http://faithandfear.blogharbor.com/_photos/heston.jpg Edgy DC Feb 02 2009 07:05 AM You MANIACS! soupcan Feb 05 2009 07:11 AM From stadiumpage.com Just a matter of time now.... Benjamin Grimm Feb 05 2009 08:06 AM It's starting to look more like the grandstand you'd see at a race track. Frayed Knot Feb 05 2009 08:11 AM Never can say goodbye No no no no, I Never can say goodbye Even though the pain and heartache Seems to follow me wherever I go Though I try and try to hide my feelings They always seem to show Then you try to say you're leaving me And I always have to say no... Tell me why Is it so That I ... Never can say goodbye No no no no, I Never can say goodbye Evertime I think I had enough I start heading for the door There's a very strange vibration That pierces me right to the core It says turn around you fool You know you love her more and more Tell me why Is it so Don't wanna let yo go I never can say goodbye soupcan Feb 06 2009 10:55 AM These are from wcbs880.com. And there are a few more there as well. G-Fafif Feb 08 2009 03:10 PM Shea among the ruins... Kong76 Feb 08 2009 03:47 PM I called KB over and asked if she wanted to see an eerie picture on my laptop and she saw this and started bawling. "That's all that's left? When was that picture taken?" "Uh, I guess last time it snowed." ... (I'm obnoxious in real life too) and I told her this is like a 25 page thread of the destruction of Shea and we started talking about our Moms and games and tailgates and she got me all throaty too and crying and screw you all but ok I admit that it's hard to see the old thing disappear and I've been suppressing the sadness. There, I said it. dgwphotography Feb 09 2009 07:41 AM the first time we go there this year will be a shock. Edgy DC Feb 09 2009 07:50 AM We should go and have a tribute concert in the parking lot. G-Fafif Feb 09 2009 10:37 AM ="Kong76":1akaid2f]I called KB over and asked if she wanted to see an eerie picture on my laptop and she saw this and started bawling.[/quote:1akaid2f] My wife, who worked downtown throughout the fall of 2001, invoked Ground Zero in terms of what it reminded her of looking at. soupcan Feb 13 2009 10:09 AM Another from baseballfever.com metirish Feb 13 2009 10:27 AM Great pictures over there...taken this morning from the #7 train Benjamin Grimm Feb 13 2009 10:48 AM They should leave that last chunk in place. smg58 Feb 13 2009 12:34 PM I drove past it the other day. It's really sad to see it. soupcan Feb 14 2009 07:21 AM I'm at LaGuardia waiting for a flight. Drove past Citi and Shea. Shea looks so sad and insignificant. I'm excited and wistful at the same time. cooby Feb 14 2009 08:22 AM Please, check for ice and geese. Not joking. soupcan Feb 14 2009 08:38 AM We're flying Continental - what could go wrong? dgwphotography Feb 14 2009 09:44 AM ="metirish"] It's fitting that that's the last piece left... Frayed Knot Feb 14 2009 09:49 AM Think of it as an image of Koosman throwing the final pitch of the '69 WS. It could be Orosco/'86 too but it looks more like Koosman. dgwphotography Feb 14 2009 09:51 AM hmmmm.... I always saw Matlack in that image... dgwphotography Feb 14 2009 09:57 AM ="Iubitul"]hmmmm.... I always saw Matlack in that image... Actually, no. Bob Ojeda. SteveJRogers Feb 14 2009 11:49 AM ="Iubitul"] ="Iubitul"]hmmmm.... I always saw Matlack in that image... Actually, no. Bob Ojeda. What is that watermark on the other side of the card top? A Boy Named Seo Feb 14 2009 11:58 AM ="metirish"]Great pictures over there...taken this morning from the #7 train Nice pic, Irish. Poor, little Shea getting swallowed up by Citi on both sides. Kong76 Feb 15 2009 01:46 PM We took a ride out there today. We packed up a camera, a couple of Heineken keg cans (KB drove) and set out. I was kind of emotional getting ready but by the time we were in the car and on our way I was kinda excited. There were a bunch of people milling about doing the same thing we were and while I didn't talk to anyone we all smiled and nodded to each other like we got it. What we really should have done was cooked a few hot dogs one more time but the beer was enough I guess to count as a tailgate of sorts. The pictures posted all over the internet get redundant after awhile I suppose, but I got a few unique images. metirish Feb 15 2009 02:20 PM Great pictures , thanks. themetfairy Feb 15 2009 03:08 PM Nice shots Kase! LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Feb 15 2009 05:20 PM Thanks, sir. Beautiful and gut-wrenching. (All in all, this offseason's been like a months-long wake... except one where the guests take parts of the deceased with them as souvenirs.) A Boy Named Seo Feb 15 2009 05:30 PM Great shots, man. Love the one of you raising your can of Heiny in salutation. holychicken Feb 15 2009 05:49 PM Whoa, crazy, KC. I was there today too and took some very similar pictures. I was the jackass with my little brown dog off the leash. He was very happy to be out running about like that. Edgy DC Feb 15 2009 06:01 PM Should have a concert out there. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Feb 15 2009 06:05 PM Or an Irish wake? -Loading up on Jameson fifths/Cueing up "Body of an American" on the iPods. Kong76 Feb 15 2009 06:13 PM holyc: I was the jackass with my little brown dog off the leash <<< I didn't see any little brown pups running about. It's funny, but I really thought I'd run into at least one Mets' fan I knew out there. Running into you woulda been cool and we coulda done a Heiny. holychicken Feb 15 2009 07:42 PM Yeah, I figured there would be no one there but the when I saw the number of people there I figured I would see someone I knew. I checked everyone saw there, but didn't recognize anyone as well. I figured my dog would have stuck out tho more than me DocTee Feb 15 2009 08:27 PM Cool pics, thanks for sharing them. Did you pour some of that Heiny on the ground, ghetto style, to remember Shea, your fallen friend? Kong76 Feb 16 2009 01:11 PM Tee: Did you pour some of that Heiny on the ground <<< I have to confess that I did deposit some used Heiny behind some construction materials. Edgy DC Feb 16 2009 01:13 PM I'm going to guess you haven't puked at Shea since October 12, 1982. Kong76 Feb 16 2009 06:24 PM I had to google the date but I didn't yak that night. John Cougar Lunchbucket Feb 17 2009 09:25 AM Nice shotz guys. ah, screw it. Zvon Feb 17 2009 12:28 PM ="SteveJRogers"] ="Iubitul"] ="Iubitul"]hmmmm.... I always saw Matlack in that image... Actually, no. Bob Ojeda. What is that watermark on the other side of the card top? That's the Desert Storm logo/thing they added to sets of cards for the troops overseas back in the day. themetfairy Feb 17 2009 02:00 PM Zvon! How have you been? attgig Feb 17 2009 03:53 PM http://twitpic.com/photos/bluenautica one last piece remaining. Frayed Knot Feb 18 2009 11:14 AM Last piece down (video available via Newsday's main sports page) It's all over but the sweeping. soupcan Feb 24 2009 08:02 AM These I guess are almost a week old. From http://www.stadiumpage.com Edgy DC Feb 24 2009 08:14 AM To heck with your copyright, Gary. soupcan Feb 24 2009 08:32 AM 'Zactly. Zvon Feb 24 2009 02:38 PM ="Edgy DC":33njl1ow]To heck with your copyright, Gary.[/quote:33njl1ow] I'll photoshop that out. Shhhh. holychicken Feb 24 2009 03:59 PM ="Zvon":13ygrx4a] ="Edgy DC":13ygrx4a]To heck with your copyright, Gary.[/quote:13ygrx4a] I'll photoshop that out. Shhhh.[/quote:13ygrx4a] Simple crop job ought to do. Edgy DC Mar 16 2009 02:56 PM Mini-Shea ripped up from the ground. http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/03/16/you-too-can-own-a-piece-of-the-mini-city/ Farmer Ted Mar 16 2009 03:14 PM They couldn't save those two satellite dishes? Coulda saved me a few bucks with DirecTV.

[batmagadanleadoff]

The 86 Mets had the anniversary patch, and what appears to be a Majestic Mfr. Logo. The real 86 unis were manufactured by Rawlings; the sleeves were logoless. Mitchell & Ness made the flannelly '60's unis for Shea Goodbye. Apparently, more than one mfr. was involved in producing the various retro jerseys.

[Guest AG/DC]

Pure 90s Mets I salute:

Rico Brogna
Eddie Murray
Todd Hundley, I guess
Jose Vizcaino
Jeff Kent
Mlicki
Manzanillo
Yoshii
While I'm in Japan, I salute Takashi Kashiwada, the man who opened Asia to the Mets.

Know who'd be a cool invite (and maybe the Countdown Like It Oughta Be thought of this)? Steve Chilcott.

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Here are some pictures from Ralph Kiner Night (July 14, 2007).

The view of Citi Field from the Shea tunnel near Gate E -




Fans arriving from the subway -




Citi Field rising behind Shea -

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Between the old and the new, before the September 14, 2008 Mr. Met Dash -

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This is an old photo. How old? Pre-MiniKnight old - the kid in the backpack is his older brother, who is now significantly taller than I am, and the little girl is now off to college. Oh, and that's me in the middle.

In 1994 the Mets entered into a deal that included the installation of Nickelodeon's Extreme Baseball at Shea mini theme park just beyond right field. Living in the City with a 4-year-old and a toddler, ya gotta believe we made a lot of trips to that park. We were there for its opening, due to D-Dad's business connections, playing in the theme park along with some of the Mets who checked it out before that night's game (the only mar in that incredibly fun evening was the news that Dwight Gooden had entered rehab for the second time). When our planned baseball birthday party for our daughter at Shea (yes - there was a time in her life when she was actually into that kind of thing and didn't wince at the thought of baseball) was unworkable due to the strike, we amended the plan and had her party at the Nickelodeon park (for those of you who remember what Nickelodeon was into back then, you'll be amused to know that I was slimed. Slime is kind of like green vanilla pudding with an odd consistency...). This picture, though, was taken at a more routine time. We were at the park one afternoon (possibly 4th of July) and took a tour of Shea that included the clubhouse and the field. The kids and I sat in the Mets dugout while D-Dad took this picture. I generally hate having my picture taken, but this was an occasion that was worthy of an exception -

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This is a picture that iubitul took. D-Dad, a couple of friends and I had just completed the Run to Home Plate. We're in the Shea outfield, and the picture was taken above from the Picnic Area -




(Psst - iubitul - did you ever scan the other photos from that day? There are a couple that would be fun to post if you did).

[G-Fafif]

Not a photo-related comment but regarding invitees, Todd Hundley did receive a shoutout from Howie Rose when he ran down the list of those who couldn't be with us today. I was struck that the mostly dismal 1991-1996 Mets were represented by John Franco and nobody else, essentially. HoJo, Sid and Doc played on those teams, but aren't associated with them. Fonzie came up in '95, but he is a part of the postseason teams that came later in the mind's eye. So is Franco, I guess.

Only because they went to the trouble of tracking down Doug Flynn, Craig Swan and John Stearns (and Mazzilli, I suppose, though he has '86 bona fides), did I get a little hung up on there not being a Rico Brogna (good fit, I hear), a Lance Johnson, or, as suggested, the Anthony Young.

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MK hanging out with some friends during a Mets Fan Club for Kids clinic. I think this was in 2005 -

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On the day I bought my good camera, I took this shot of David Wright connecting for a homer -





Time will tell whether this was beginner's luck, but I'm happy with the shot.

[Benjamin Grimm]

="G-Fafif":2bw2zl3t]Not a photo-related comment but regarding invitees, Todd Hundley did receive a shoutout from Howie Rose when he ran down the list of those who couldn't be with us today. I was struck that the mostly dismal 1991-1996 Mets were represented by John Franco and nobody else, essentially. HoJo, Sid and Doc played on those teams, but aren't associated with them. Fonzie came up in '95, but he is a part of the postseason teams that came later in the mind's eye. So is Franco, I guess. Only because they went to the trouble of tracking down Doug Flynn, Craig Swan and John Stearns (and Mazzilli, I suppose, though he has '86 bona fides), did I get a little hung up on there not being a Rico Brogna (good fit, I hear), a Lance Johnson, or, as suggested, the Anthony Young.[/quote:2bw2zl3t] I was thinking along similar lines this morning in the car. There weren't many players present whose careers were strictly in the lean years and the in-between years. There were a few guys from the 1960's, like Frank Thomas, and 70's guys like Flynn, Swan, Stearns, and Kingman, but overall, very few of the returnees were guys who didn't appear in a World Series for the Mets.

batmagadanleadoff Oct 01 2008 09:50 AM

="G-Fafif":1bl0kw4g]Only because they went to the trouble of tracking down Doug Flynn, Craig Swan and John Stearns (and Mazzilli, I suppose, though he has '86 bona fides), did I get a little hung up on there not being a Rico Brogna (good fit, I hear), a Lance Johnson, or, as suggested, the Anthony Young.[/quote:1bl0kw4g] Though I would've liked to see Anthony Young walk onto the Shea field last Sunday, as I already mentioned, I did not reasonably expect to see him. Until George Theodore was announced. Once The Stork was delivered, I thought that anything was possible and that everyone was in play. But not Bobby Bonilla. G-Fafif Oct 01 2008 10:05 AM ="batmagadanleadoff":36rnfjz9] ="G-Fafif":36rnfjz9]Only because they went to the trouble of tracking down Doug Flynn, Craig Swan and John Stearns (and Mazzilli, I suppose, though he has '86 bona fides), did I get a little hung up on there not being a Rico Brogna (good fit, I hear), a Lance Johnson, or, as suggested, the Anthony Young.[/quote:36rnfjz9] Though I would've liked to see Anthony Young walk onto the Shea field last Sunday, as I already mentioned, I did not reasonably expect to see him. Until George Theodore was announced. Once The Stork was delivered, I thought that anything was possible and that everyone was in play. But not Bobby Bonilla.[/quote:36rnfjz9] Shea Amnesty could have been the theme and everybody but Vince Coleman could have been welcomed and absolved. I could have applauded Bonilla. I could have applauded Alomar. I could have applauded Hebner just for old times' sake. I think, if sufficiently intoxicated, I could have applauded Glavine. But not Vince Coleman. A.Y., however, needed no amnesty. He was always treated well amid the disaster that went down around him. It would have been a classy Storklike move. themetfairy Oct 01 2008 02:26 PM MiniKnight's first game at Shea - I love how D-Dad caught Mr. Met's pixelated image smiling and waving on the scoreboard in the background. metsguyinmichigan Oct 01 2008 08:40 PM That's Mr. Met bestowing his blessing! Awesome shot! themetfairy Oct 01 2008 09:01 PM D-Dad says thanks soupcan Oct 02 2008 08:58 AM Not a Shea photo per se but still... I was looking through a box of crap in my attic and came across a Mets scorecard from 1985. I thought 'how cool would it be if this was from opening day and I actually scored it?'. I opened it up and guess what - it was and I did. Surprising to me because that opener I drove down from Syracuse with about 6-7 fraternity brothers and sat in the bitter cold of the upper deck. I'm sure I was drunk and my hands were frozen. In those days though I did score pretty much every game I went to. I checked UMDB against my log and I didn't do a half-bad job... Heep appears in the boxscore but not on my card, until you look closer - In the 7th it appears Heep was announced but I suppose Whitey replaced Campbell with Hassler for the lefty/righty thing so John Christensen took the AB. You can see that I wrote Heep's name but then crossed it out. Why was Davey PH-ing Heep for Straw though? Game was tied 5-5 men on first and second 2 out. What am I not seeing or remembering? Also - Note that Staub pinch-hit in the 9th and Darling ran for him. John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 02 2008 09:10 AM Holy shit, nice handwriting. Are you an architect? soupcan Oct 02 2008 09:11 AM Oh gosh really? Thanks. Its usually much neater, I was kind of embarassed to post it because I thought it was pretty sloppy. Not an architect but an illustrator in a previous life. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 09:13 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 02 2008 09:15 AM Strawberry opened the 1985 season hurt. His opening day start was in question and he did not play at all in the Mets next game. He missed a significant amount of playing time in 1985 to injuries. May I ask what frat you belonged to? Centerfield Oct 02 2008 09:13 AM ="themetfairy"]MiniKnight's first game at Shea - I love how D-Dad caught Mr. Met's pixelated image smiling and waving on the scoreboard in the background. That's amazing. MK already looks like himself. Not sure if that made any sense. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 09:17 AM How come my post above displays a "last edited" note even though this is the very next post? soupcan Oct 02 2008 09:19 AM ="batmagadanleadoff"]May I ask what frat you belonged to? Thanks for the Strawberry answer. HahnSolo Oct 02 2008 09:21 AM ="soupcan":3uc7yjo2] In those days though I did score pretty much every game I went to.[/quote:3uc7yjo2] You scored in the Shea upper deck? I should hang out at more games with you. metirish Oct 02 2008 09:24 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 02 2008 09:25 AM Brilliant posts from metfairy and soup...MF , the Mets cap looks over sized....what happened? Great score card soup , I scored my first game ever this season, in the second to last row up top behind home plate. It didn't look anything like yours though... soupcan Oct 02 2008 09:24 AM ="HahnSolo":2y3lkhxq]You scored in the Shea upper deck? I should hang out at more games with you.[/quote:2y3lkhxq] It was a looooong time ago. Its in me but its been hibernating for a while. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 09:29 AM ="soupcan":3jnfvsp6]Thanks for the Strawberry answer.[/quote:3jnfvsp6] That's on Comstock, with a lot of other frat houses, right? Did you see my Sherman Douglas post[/url:3jnfvsp6] from a few days ago? soupcan Oct 02 2008 09:32 AM Yup. 721 Comstock to be exact. I did see the Douglas post, you were right. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 09:33 AM Back on topic. Frayed Knot Oct 02 2008 09:34 AM ="batmagadanleadoff"]Strawberry opened the 1985 season hurt. His opening day start was in question and he did not play at all in the Mets next game. He missed a significant amount of playing time in 1985 to injuries. Most of his missed time was on account of when he rolled over on his thumb making a catch in a game I was at - in mid-May I think it was. ]How come my post above displays a "last edited" note even though this is the very next post? All that means is that you edited something in that post after the thread was active again. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 09:39 AM ="Frayed Knot":nd2dud0e] ="batmagadanleadoff":nd2dud0e]Strawberry opened the 1985 season hurt. His opening day start was in question and he did not play at all in the Mets next game. He missed a significant amount of playing time in 1985 to injuries.[/quote:nd2dud0e] Most of his missed time was on account of when he rolled over on his thumb making a catch in a game I was at - in mid-May I think it was. [/quote:nd2dud0e] You're right. But he opened the season with a nagging injury as well. I have the video of that complete game. I'll try and find it but it may take me a while, because I haven't converted that tape to disc. My old VHS's are a disorganized mess. dgwphotography Oct 02 2008 09:43 AM Soup - that's great stuff. I was sitting down underneath in the loge that day. Freaking Hernandez - strikes out in a big spot leading off the top of the 10th. So unclutch. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 09:49 AM ="Frayed Knot":itaev3d1]All that means is that you edited something in that post after the thread was active again.[/quote:itaev3d1] What do you mean by "thread was active again"? Based on experience, I thought that the "last edited" notation was activated only if the post was edited after someone else posted a subsequent message. soupcan Oct 02 2008 09:55 AM ="batmagadanleadoff":2of6od08]What do you mean by "thread was active again"? Based on experience, I thought that the "last edited" notation was activated only if the post was edited after someone else posted a subsequent message.[/quote:2of6od08] You edited at 11:15. CF posted at 11:13. OE: No, I'm wrong. That's weird. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 10:01 AM ="soupcan":3pdd5j9f] ="batmagadanleadoff":3pdd5j9f]What do you mean by "thread was active again"? Based on experience, I thought that the "last edited" notation was activated only if the post was edited after someone else posted a subsequent message.[/quote:3pdd5j9f] You edited at 11:15. CF posted at 11:13[/quote:3pdd5j9f] I dunno about that. When I originally posted that message, it appeared after CF's post. Why would my subsequent minute later edit appear based on an unedited post showing prior to my post, and thus, prior to my edit? batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 10:02 AM ="soupcan":2yeh8i49]OE: No, I'm wrong. That's weird.[/quote:2yeh8i49] Now you get it. themetfairy Oct 02 2008 10:38 AM ="Centerfield"] ="themetfairy"]MiniKnight's first game at Shea - I love how D-Dad caught Mr. Met's pixelated image smiling and waving on the scoreboard in the background. That's amazing. MK already looks like himself. Not sure if that made any sense. It makes sense. He's recognizable, even at three weeks old. Irish - I'm not sure what was up with the hat. That soon after a C-section I thought I was doing well getting dressed at all seawolf17 Oct 02 2008 12:03 PM Actually, as long as the message has been read at least once, then it gets the "edited" tag. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 02:26 PM ="seawolf17":neearbs2]Actually, as long as the message has been read at least once, then it gets the "edited" tag.[/quote:neearbs2] I'm not convinced because I know for sure that on occasion, I have edited some of my messages as much as a day after posting them. So long as my message in question was always the last one in the thread, the "last edited" note was never triggered. I know that others read the post after it was posted but prior to my edit based on the page view count. So based on my personal use, merely reading a post wouldn't be enough to trigger the edited notation if that post was ever to be edited. AG/DC Oct 02 2008 02:31 PM How about if somebody else had already hit the response button, even if they hadn't submitted? Frayed Knot Oct 02 2008 02:34 PM I think the mods should just confess that they're monitoring all of BatMags movements and activities. Nothing personal mind you, just be careful what you say in the bathroom. You never know who's listening. batmagadanleadoff Oct 02 2008 02:47 PM ="Frayed Knot":1klmkujp]I think the mods should just confess that they're monitoring all of BatMags movements and activities. Nothing personal mind you, just be careful what you say in the bathroom. You never know who's listening.[/quote:1klmkujp] That's what I always thought. Do you know that my avatar disappeared mysteriously? And that the feature that would allow me to simply submit another avatar is missing from my control panel or whatever it's called? What do you make of that, huh? dgwphotography Oct 02 2008 02:55 PM I don't remember if I've posted this one before: Fireworks Night, July 3, 2006: soupcan Oct 02 2008 03:02 PM Wow. cooby Oct 02 2008 03:37 PM ="soupcan":1twkt7gk] In those days though I did score pretty much every game I went to.[/quote:1twkt7gk] HAHAHAH, I am sure though that by now somebody else has already beaten me to this line, I'll go back and look cooby Oct 02 2008 03:40 PM Yep! themetfairy Oct 02 2008 03:50 PM ="Iubitul":2bej8qlv]I don't remember if I've posted this one before: Fireworks Night, July 3, 2006: [/quote:2bej8qlv] Whether it's a rerun or not, it's gorgeous. soupcan Oct 02 2008 04:48 PM ="cooby":1hpi6tfp] ="soupcan":1hpi6tfp] In those days though I did score pretty much every game I went to.[/quote:1hpi6tfp] HAHAHAH, I am sure though that by now somebody else has already beaten me to this line, I'll go back and look[/quote:1hpi6tfp] DOH! I didn't realize HahnSolo was taking the piss! I'm a moron. metsguyinmichigan Oct 02 2008 07:27 PM ="themetfairy":2i6sr6pi] ="Iubitul":2i6sr6pi]I don't remember if I've posted this one before: Fireworks Night, July 3, 2006: [/quote:2i6sr6pi] Whether it's a rerun or not, it's gorgeous.[/quote:2i6sr6pi] Clearly you're too good at this for it to just be a hobby. Are you a professional? I'm just in awe. I snapped shots of some of the same small details that you did -- like the little NYs in the grates around the trees -- yet you picked a really cool, unconventional angle to shoot it. Beautiful and creative. dgwphotography Oct 03 2008 12:32 AM ="metsguyinmichigan"] Clearly you're too good at this for it to just be a hobby. Are you a professional? I'm just in awe. I snapped shots of some of the same small details that you did -- like the little NYs in the grates around the trees -- yet you picked a really cool, unconventional angle to shoot it. Beautiful and creative. Thanks metsguy. I'm not a professional, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night... Seriously, it's a hobby - I'm a web developer by trade. But, it's also a passion that centers me. I can have a completely lousy day at work, but if I get to spend 15 productive minutes behind my camera, I'm completely relaxed and centered... Here's a couple of oldies. Please ignore the quality - my film scanner isn't working, so I had to scan the prints on a flatbed... July 4, 1986 - Nolan Ryan pitching to Gary Carter: September 18, 1986 - The best part of this pic is Backman's expression. Hungover much? John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 03 2008 05:46 AM Just look how much better those old shots look without Keyspan signs, giant dunkin donuts cups, too-dark blue paint, etc etc. This thread is going to make me dig out what I can find, but I'll start with this classikc: batmagadanleadoff Oct 03 2008 08:24 AM ="Iubitul":1jek1hyd]I don't remember if I've posted this one before: Fireworks Night, July 3, 2006: [/quote:1jek1hyd] I was surprised to read that you're not a pro. Professional is the first word that came to my mind when I saw this beautiful picture of Shea with the fireworks. Where were you sitting (or standing) when you took the picture of Carter batting against Ryan? AG/DC Oct 03 2008 08:33 AM If I remember him describing that photo last year, he put his camera down, satisfied he got the shot he wanted, and noticed the Mets team photographer right next to him going for the same shot. seawolf17 Oct 03 2008 08:34 AM Lost in that shot is the kid in the Wright shirt, bottom right corner, watching the fireworks. A nice touch. dgwphotography Oct 03 2008 11:56 AM ="batmagadanleadoff":2duv67l2]Where were you sitting (or standing) when you took the picture of Carter batting against Ryan?[/quote:2duv67l2] Thanks :-) I was able to sneak down to the first row behind home plate - got a lot of good shots that were on KC's site. dgwphotography Oct 03 2008 12:04 PM ="AG/DC":1gfkczpr]If I remember him describing that photo last year, he put his camera down, satisfied he got the shot he wanted, and noticed the Mets team photographer right next to him going for the same shot.[/quote:1gfkczpr] That was the first time I shot the fireworks, back in 1990. They had a photo contest sponsored by Kodak every year - I had won in the memorabilia category in 1989, and had my picture in the 1990 yearbook. So, I had the idea to try and shoot the fireworks that July - that's when I ran into Marc Lavine. When the 1991 yearbook came, and I saw his fireworks shot on the cover, I knew there was no way that mine made it into the yearbook. There's a post script to that story: I ran into Marc again in 2006. I snuck around to behind home plate in loge to take pictures of Mike Pelfrey in his ML debut. Marc was standing in the walkway right next to me. A security guard came over and started giving Marc a hard time about standing there. I leaned over the railing and asked him, "What, doesn't he recognize you?" Gotta love the security at Shea. Kong76 Oct 03 2008 05:44 PM The old school stuff is still there if anyone wants to re-explore .... http://www.kcmets.com/DGWPhotography/photonew1.htm metsguyinmichigan Oct 03 2008 05:48 PM I love the wallpaper shot of Reyes as a B-Met! SteveJRogers Oct 03 2008 06:25 PM ="Iubitul":2lf7a8xg] They had a photo contest sponsored by Kodak every year - I had won in the memorabilia category in 1989, and had my picture in the 1990 yearbook.[/quote:2lf7a8xg] I'm shocked that a Nikonian like you would stoop so low as to enter a contest run by Kodak! = dgwphotography Oct 03 2008 06:43 PM ="SteveJRogers":38evkptp] ="Iubitul":38evkptp] They had a photo contest sponsored by Kodak every year - I had won in the memorabilia category in 1989, and had my picture in the 1990 yearbook.[/quote:38evkptp] I'm shocked that a Nikonian like you would stoop so low as to enter a contest run by Kodak! =[/quote:38evkptp] Film, Steve. Film. I loved Kodak 64 slide film. Actually, starting in 1995, Kodak offered the DCS460[/url:38evkptp]. It was a 6mp digital camera which used a Nikon N90s SLR for the body. soupcan Oct 03 2008 09:07 PM ="Iubitul":2hzt6uz2]That was the first time I shot the fireworks, back in 1990. They had a photo contest sponsored by Kodak every year - I had won in the memorabilia category in 1989, and had my picture in the 1990 yearbook. [/quote:2hzt6uz2] So I read this and flipped through my '90 yearbook - holy cow - is (was) all that stuff in the picture yours? G-Fafif Oct 04 2008 04:04 AM I ran back to the '90 yearbook as well and was quite impressed with the collection as well as the photograph. A copy of "Nails" even! I'll bet Lenny Dykstra never read it. dgwphotography Oct 04 2008 05:28 AM Thanks guys. Yes, all that stuff in the picture is mine, and that collection has only grown... Of course I have a copy of Nails, my wife was such a big Dykstra fan, she even, gulp, rooted for the Phillies for a while when he got traded... soupcan Oct 06 2008 07:57 AM Taken on Opening Day 1987... Notice that there are no neon players on Shea yet. Sorry about the quality - haven't figured out the best settings for photos on the scanner yet. metirish Oct 06 2008 08:06 AM Those are great pictures soup , maybe it's the contrast but it looks cold and bleak that day.Is that guy wearing a batting helmet? DocTee Oct 06 2008 08:07 AM If you hadn't told me those were from 1987, I'd ve guessed they were from a decade earlier (based on the vehicles in the parking lot). AG/DC Oct 06 2008 08:08 AM Old school. That's how Met fans roll. soupcan Oct 06 2008 08:15 AM ="metirish":1lvfa5e8]Those are great pictures soup , maybe it's the contrast but it looks cold and bleak that day.Is that guy wearing a batting helmet?[/quote:1lvfa5e8] Cold and bleak - yes. Batting helmet - yes. ="DocTee":1lvfa5e8]If you hadn't told me those were from 1987, I'd ve guessed they were from a decade earlier (based on the vehicles in the parking lot).[/quote:1lvfa5e8] I agree - isn't it funny how its always the cars in photos that give a person a sense of the age of the picture? ="AG/DC":1lvfa5e8]Old school. That's how Met fans roll.[/quote:1lvfa5e8] Damn skippy. soupcan Oct 06 2008 08:31 AM Notice no skyline on the scoreboard. Round cut-outs in foul territory on either side of the plate. Never knew what those were for until I watched a DVD of game 4 of the '69 Series. During player intros before the game, Cuellar was warming up in it, tossing from there. Can you see straw-hat, hand-rolling lady in the front row behind homeplate? That's before they added the additional VIP seats and effectively put her 10 or so rows back. What the heck's going on at second base? AG/DC Oct 06 2008 08:37 AM I like the life-size bendable plastic Keith Hernandez figure out there. Nothing says "dreary opening day" like Ralph Kiner walking alone through the shade in his raincoat. soupcan Oct 06 2008 09:06 AM You think that's Ralph? I was going to guess Cashen. metirish Oct 06 2008 09:07 AM I was thinking M. Donald Grant . soupcan Oct 06 2008 09:08 AM He was long gone by then. metirish Oct 06 2008 09:08 AM Of course he wasn't even with the mets then...never mind me. Actually I meant Nelson Doubleday but I'm still probably wrong. soupcan Oct 06 2008 09:23 AM That could be Nelson. I don't think his hair was completely white yet in '87. batmagadanleadoff Oct 06 2008 09:24 AM I think it's Cashen, though it's hard to tell. I don't think it's Kiner; that's not Ralph's way of walking. AG/DC Oct 06 2008 09:26 AM Funny, I think that's exactly what makes him look Kineriffic. Funnier still is that I doubt either of us has seen Kiner walk more than a handful of times, but we both have a distinctive impression. Among other reasons, I think it's Ralph because he appears to be coming from a press scrum. batmagadanleadoff Oct 06 2008 09:31 AM ="soupcan"]That could be Nelson. I don't think his hair was completely white yet in '87. Maybe not, but it was surely on its way. That was the first game back since Wilpon wrested away Nelson's controlling interest in the club. Straw and Keith went at each other that Spring. Doc was in Smithers and at age 22, would never be consistently great again. Backman's "forty fuckin' car crashes" was already proving prophetic figuratively, if not literally. John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 06 2008 09:41 AM I would guess Doubleday. themetfairy Oct 06 2008 09:50 AM A couple of pictures from the 1987 opener - Opening ceremonies - First Pitch - John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 06 2008 09:57 AM Check out skinny Barry soupcan Oct 06 2008 10:00 AM Nice ones Fairy. Apparently you had much better seats than me... AG/DC Oct 06 2008 10:00 AM I like the area around the apple hat, strewn with empty crates and lurking hoods. metirish Oct 06 2008 10:03 AM I like how metfairy's picture helps answer who the people out in center field are in the picture soup posted, kind of cool that two members can post similar pictures for the same opening day in 1987. Farmer Ted Oct 06 2008 10:09 AM Any photos of Banner Day in the archives? Those would a nice treat. themetfairy Oct 06 2008 10:11 AM ="soupcan":19xbemwi]Nice ones Fairy. Apparently you had much better seats than me...[/quote:19xbemwi] Thanks soup. I worked for a law firm in 1987. There were only two good things about the job. One was my office (Empire State Building, 49th Floor, southern view) and the other was that the firm had season tickets and one of the partners would occasionally offer two of the seats to D-Dad and me. themetfairy Oct 06 2008 11:23 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 06 2008 11:45 AM I went into the old photo albums to scan some pictures from 1994's Nickelodeon's Extreme Baseball at Shea experiment. These are from the VIP Opening Party on June 28, 1994. I have pictures of each of my kids at about age 2 with John Franco. This is the one with my older son - We wouldn't have wanted to try to wipe the smile off of Bobby Bo's face - Back in 1994, we had no reason to dislike Jose Vizcaino - themetfairy Oct 06 2008 11:25 AM July 4, 1994. I previously posted the picture of myself with the kids in the dugout. Here are some other photos from that day. From the stadium tour that we took that day - themetfairy Oct 06 2008 11:30 AM Those of you who know my daughter now will be shocked to hear that there was a time she actually rooted for the Mets. We planned to have her 5th birthday at a game at Shea, but the plans were changed on account of strike. We had the birthday at the Nickelodeon park instead. The birthday girl - Cute cake - If you remember Nickelodeon at the time, slime was a big thing. The birthday girl didn't want to be slimed herself, but wanted to slime her mom instead. Let it not be said that I've never done anything for that girl - metirish Oct 06 2008 11:41 AM Absolutely classic , the clothes the uniforms , the sunglasses , everything. We need a thread for classic Mets and Shea pictures like these. Benjamin Grimm Oct 06 2008 12:02 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 06 2008 12:04 PM .. Benjamin Grimm Oct 06 2008 12:03 PM I've been thinking of putting a Shea slideshow on the UMDB. I have a few pictures of my own of the "Shea experience" that I've taken over the last couple of years. Some with architectural details, some of fans crowding through the gates, etc. I've been meaning to ask for submissions of similar photos, and I guess this is as good a time and place as any to start. I'm more interested in "neutral" photos rather than those that feature smiling friends or family members. Some of the photos posted in this thread would be great for that. If anyone who's posted any photos objects to the pictures being used in this manner, please let me know. (I intend to specifically ask permission to use any of these before I actually do so.) A couple of weeks ago I created a prototype slide show. Take a peek if you like: http://www.leaptoad.com/mets/slidetest.php Some day there will be similar slideshows available to all visitors, and they'll have individual themes. Right now I'm slowly putting together one that will capture the events surrounding the final day at Shea Stadium. themetfairy Oct 06 2008 12:32 PM Nice slideshow BG. And I have no objection if you'd like to use any photo that I've posted on the UMDB metirish Oct 06 2008 12:34 PM I like the prototype, nice work. themetfairy Oct 06 2008 06:07 PM May 30, 1999 was a Beanie Babies giveaway day at Shea. I was writing for Mary Beth's Bean Bag World Magazine at the time, and i was able to get press credentials for the game. I was constantly expecting security to tap me on the shoulder and tell me that I didn't belong on the field, but they didn't. Here's my press pass - Diamond Vision - D-Dad took this shot of me from the Field Level - Olerud and the Shea Scoreboard - The Diamond Vision later, from the Upper Deck - Pictures of players to follow.... themetfairy Oct 06 2008 06:12 PM Most of the players were incredibly good sports about having their picture taken with the Beanie Baby du Jour. My big regret was not asking Bobby Valentine for a picture, A) because he would have; and it was a Valentina Beanie Baby. The only one who turned me down was Todd Pratt, but since he was signing autographs at the time I'll give him a pass on that. Rey Ordonez - Roger Cedeno (whose solo homer provided the Mets with their only run as they lost that day) - Edgardo Alfonzo - Mike Piazza (who not only posed for this picture, but graciously gave me a little blather quote for my article) - Benny Agbayani - Fman99 Oct 06 2008 08:08 PM Great pictures MetFairy. How awesome to see those guys being good sports. Man I loved that '99 squad. themetfairy Oct 06 2008 08:23 PM They were a great bunch, for sure. cooby Oct 06 2008 09:16 PM NICE seawolf17 Oct 07 2008 12:57 PM Funny photos. What a neat experience. themetfairy Oct 07 2008 01:41 PM Thanks. It was surreal, and very cool soupcan Oct 13 2008 07:27 AM No seats! AG/DC Oct 13 2008 07:44 AM Well, that one guy has a seat. I think we can take him. metsguyinmichigan Oct 13 2008 09:51 AM He's guarding the stop sign before the people from MeiGray come to pick it up for the auction. soupcan Oct 15 2008 08:46 PM Found these pictures in a thread at baseball fever... AG/DC Oct 15 2008 09:44 PM Agh. themetfairy Oct 16 2008 04:42 AM That one gave me a bad dream last night Benjamin Grimm Oct 16 2008 08:13 AM I found this one the most painful: metirish Oct 16 2008 08:14 AM Great pictures , thanks soup. AG/DC Oct 16 2008 08:24 AM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ut1H4o_ie8c metirish Oct 16 2008 08:50 AM Great song edgy , a blast form the past. dgwphotography Oct 16 2008 09:01 AM I think I'm going through the anger phase of mourning. I'm sure I'll come around, but right now, I just so angry over everything regarding the dismantling of Shea, and the move to his corporate playground. Through it all, I keep getting the feeling that Shea was ours, and CitiField belongs to him. Bastard. AG/DC Oct 16 2008 09:19 AM I don'think it's us against him when the vast majority of the fans and media supported the move. If so, it's a slender us. Farmer Ted Oct 16 2008 10:52 AM Painful. But ther new place will be a treat. themetfairy Oct 16 2008 11:06 AM The new place will be ours. We'll make it ours, dammit! G-Fafif Oct 16 2008 03:51 PM Tour[/url:24y3xk17] of Citi Field parking lot... metirish Oct 16 2008 06:05 PM Whats with the actual hole in the pitchers mound? Benjamin Grimm Oct 16 2008 06:53 PM I'm guessing there was something buried under the mound that they wanted to retrieve. I don't have a great guess as to what it was. My best guess is some kind of camera, but I don't recall seeing any mounds-eye views on any telecasts. soupcan Oct 16 2008 07:06 PM ="metirish":35vh26wx]Whats with the actual hole in the pitchers mound?[/quote:35vh26wx] I'm guessing that they dug up the pitching rubber - to sell it of course - and that hole is a result. dgwphotography Oct 16 2008 07:18 PM no - I think that was where the plumbing was for the hose they used to water down the infield.... soupcan Oct 17 2008 07:31 AM ="Iubitul"]no - I think that was where the plumbing was for the hose they used to water down the infield.... Makes more sense. Wonder how much they're selling that for Zvon Oct 19 2008 06:48 PM I didn't realize this til recently. I thought I was bummed at seasons end because the team failed to get to the post season. But being a Met fan for 40 years, this is really something I'm used to. For the team, there was/is always next year. But this was it for Shea.... This is what really bummed me out. That they couldn't get Shea to the post season one more time. That would have been the way send her off. Great pictures here posted by all, and really fun to view. Iubitul, your pictures of Shea are breathtaking. Absolutely breathtaking and beautiful. Everybody, thanks for sharing them. themetfairy Oct 19 2008 06:51 PM Warewolf! Good to see you, man. Don't be a stranger! metirish Oct 20 2008 12:29 PM Found this persons work over at Faith & Fear( looks like a few have been posted here already) , very extensive collection of great pictures. What does picture #40 show? picnic area? http://sports.webshots.com/album/568107635SUQZeD Read this from Jason over at Faith and Fear. http://www.faithandfearinflushing.com/ Farmer Ted Oct 20 2008 07:37 PM Where the heck are they storing 55,000 seats? metsguyinmichigan Oct 21 2008 08:21 AM Uniwatch reports that the Agee marker appears to have been saved! Willets Point Oct 21 2008 08:25 AM ="Farmer Ted"]Where the heck are they storing 55,000 seats? dgwphotography Oct 22 2008 04:55 AM ="metsguyinmichigan"] Uniwatch reports that the Agee marker appears to have been saved! Yeah - probably to be sold... soupcan Oct 22 2008 07:40 AM Farmer Ted Oct 22 2008 02:52 PM I share Belushi's reaction. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gI3nb9x5VhY Zvon Oct 22 2008 06:11 PM ="soupcan"] Oh my.... This is difficult to witness. PiggiesTomatoes Oct 24 2008 08:29 PM A couple of shots from my only game this season -- at least it was a win. The only win against the pitiful Mariners this season. Down in Tampa now and don't get back to NY all that often for games. > My basehit at Shea. Fantasy Camp reunion in 2006... The place may have been a bit of a dump but it was our dump. Rockin' Doc Oct 25 2008 05:37 AM Nice pictures. Welcome to the pool. Nice handle, I hope you stick around. metirish Oct 25 2008 05:46 AM ="PiggiesTomatoes":2399a9u7] The place may have been a bit of a dump but it was our dump.[/quote:2399a9u7] Thank you and welcome. metsguyinmichigan Oct 25 2008 01:01 PM Great photos! I can't imagine how glorious it was to get that hit. Welcome aBordick! themetfairy Oct 25 2008 01:43 PM This little piggy is a welcome addition to the Pool - Welcome Zvon Oct 25 2008 07:00 PM Excellent pics Piggie! Actually batting at Shea must have been an incredible experience. Is that a female catcher? PiggiesTomatoes Oct 25 2008 07:59 PM Thanks, everyone, for the kind words. I'd joined some time ago but didn't visit for a while, then got locked out and getting back in was a bitch! Riffraff filter must work. Getting to play on the field was a thrill and yes, it was a female catcher. She was the only female in camp and was a trooper. Regards, JF Kong76 Oct 26 2008 05:03 PM PT: joined some time ago but didn't visit for a while, then got locked out and getting back in was a bitch! Riffraff filter must work <<< Read your email around 9 AM on Fri and answered, and had you set up before 6 PM that same day. No one was locked out and getting back was as easy as sending an email. PiggiesTomatoes Oct 26 2008 07:33 PM I wasn't being critical...thought that use of the term riffraff filter would have communicated sarcasm. That said, I'd attempted logging in unsuccessfully with my original password without luck and when I tried to use the forgot password link, I repeatedly received a message that my name and email address did not match. Then, I was unable to find an email address on the forum to contact, ultimately "googling" to find the admin addy. It wasn't easy...but I do appreciate the prompt reply once I emailed the correct address. JF G-Fafif Oct 26 2008 07:38 PM PT, Great pictures. At first glance I wondered how the Mariners game was suddenly being played in daylight. Per your sobriquet, let us know who will be ready first: Hausman or Kobel. Kong76 Oct 27 2008 05:41 AM Maybe it's me and I'm just being cranky and defensive but the email address is right up top: Everybody in the pool! Joining us for off-season hot stove discussion is easy. Shoot us an email [click here] Glad you re-found us. Willets Point Oct 27 2008 01:12 PM Welcome Piggie! You can hold the conch while you're here. soupcan Oct 28 2008 10:54 AM will the Dunkin' Dounts cup be the last man standing? metirish Oct 28 2008 10:57 AM Helps keep the workers running. Gwreck Oct 28 2008 11:46 AM It's somewhat refreshing that nobody was dumb enough to shell out the ~$5000 the greedy MeiGray group was asking for it. AG/DC Oct 28 2008 11:47 AM Or they're moving it to the new digs. seawolf17 Oct 28 2008 01:12 PM It'd be funny if they just left it in the parking lot. Benjamin Grimm Oct 28 2008 01:22 PM They do seem to have demolished around it. Maybe it will be moved to Citi Field. I imagine the new place will have some advertising, no? SteveJRogers Oct 28 2008 01:23 PM ="Gwreck":1zlwh6r8]It's somewhat refreshing that nobody was dumb enough to shell out the ~$5000 the greedy MeiGray group was asking for it.[/quote:1zlwh6r8] Say what you will about memorabilia sellers like MeiGray and Steiner, that probably really is the going rate for that kind of unique advertising as memorabilia. Honestly, there probably is a market for stuff like that; McDonald arches, Big Boys Big Boy, etc. Just no one that got involved in the Shea Memorabilia auctions was into it. metirish Oct 28 2008 01:28 PM ="SteveJRogers":1991yy98] Say what you will about memorabilia sellers like MeiGray and Steiner,[/quote:1991yy98] Thank you , I will. Fucking scum they are. Benjamin Grimm Oct 28 2008 01:33 PM I'm not sure I understand the animosity. metirish Oct 28 2008 01:39 PM Well he said say what you want so I did.... soupcan Oct 28 2008 02:15 PM I guess as long as there are people out there who are willing to pay those ridiculous prices then I don't have an issue with someone charging it. Capitalism and all that. I am upset at the kind of money they are asking for stuff though. I intended to get a pair of seats but $869.00? Really? For what will amount to a novelty in my yard? Then I looked around the website and I thought that this: ...would be cool. But those are up over $1,200.00. They so take advantage of our own feelings towards the team - hundreds of dollars for bricks, almost a grand for seats. Its just a little disappointing is all. soupcan Nov 01 2008 11:01 AM Say goodbye to the shrimpeaters! Field level frst base side is the first to go. Valadius Nov 01 2008 11:21 AM Do they HAVE to have debris strewn around that wonderful field? Kong76 Nov 01 2008 11:26 AM SJR: Say what you will about memorabilia sellers like MeiGray <<< Irish: Thank you , I will. Fucking scum they are <<< I know the guy who was the first premier club guy in line and I didn't get the impression that the guys willing to spend the cash thought MeiGray was hus- tling anyone ... they're brokers. He advertised the event to everyone on his memorabilia buying list and I assume he did so to generate interest among those who were obviously interested. I hope he got a kick back, it's the American way! I wrote back that they're gonna cause a few divorces to which he quipped, "never tell your wife what you're really spending on Mets' stuff!" soupcan Nov 01 2008 11:49 AM ="Valadius":3pluypt1]Do they HAVE to have debris strewn around that wonderful field?[/quote:3pluypt1] I think that's kinda unavoidable when you're tearing a structure down. What are they supposed to do - follow the bulldozers around with a broom and dustpan? metsmarathon Nov 01 2008 02:40 PM that's just silly. what they should do is gingerly remove each and every peice the way it was originally put in, and delicately hand carry it out of the stadium grounds, stepping only on the red carpet laid across the field, and place each dutifully salvaged quantum of the stadium into its own velvet lined receptacle wherein it will remain interred through the end of time. soupcan Nov 03 2008 07:55 AM Dunkin' Donuts Down! Benjamin Grimm Nov 03 2008 07:57 AM I expected it would be surrounded by a large puddle of spilled coffee. soupcan Nov 03 2008 07:57 AM Link There are more pictures on the site. ] November 1, 2008 Bulk of Shea Stadium awaits sale in Bridgewater company's warehouse By MICHAEL DEAK Staff Writer From the outside it looks like an unremarkable warehouse, not like the pyramids in Egypt that were built as mausoleums for the pharaohs. But inside that squat warehouse are treasures that, for New York Mets fans, are as valuable as anything that has ever been found inside the pyramids. It is the Bridgewater warehouse of the MeiGray Group, which has the task of selling all the contents of Shea Stadium, except for the seats. Warren resident Barry Meisel, a former sportswriter for the New York Daily News who is the president and chief operating officer of the MeiGray Group, doesn't want the exact location of the warehouse disclosed for security reasons because it houses thousands of items saved from Shea Stadium before the stadium's slow demolition started earlier this month. Everything is for sale, except for two items that Meisel bought for himself � a picture of the celebration after the Mets clinched the World Series in 1969, and the portion of the center field wall that bears the 410-foot marker. "I always wanted that," he said. Memorabilia Meisel estimated that the warehouse contains from 5,000 to 7,000 items from Shea Stadium. Some of the items are relatively minor, such as the hundreds of nameplates that were placed on the back of seats occupied by season ticket holders. There are numerous boxes of photographs taken from the walls of corridors, executive offices, suites and inside the stadium. The pictures are blown-up images of legendary Mets and the unforgettable moments from the team's 46-year history. In the middle of the warehouse is a nondescript pile of wood found at any demolition site. But, Meisel said, it is a special pile of wood � boards from benches in both the home and visiting team dugouts. The boards were never replaced in the dugouts but have been painted many times, he said. Also in the middle of the warehouse are the 150-foot foul poles that have been broken into 25-foot sections. There are rows of lockers from both the Mets and visitors' locker rooms, as well as cubicles from where players hung their clothes and kept their valuables during games. Throughout the warehouse are piles of outfield wall sections including the retired numbers of players and managers. Flags that flew at the top of the stadium have also found a home in the warehouse. There also are hundreds of signs from throughout the stadium � signs that hung on restroom doors and signs that directed fans to the subway station. A sign of team mascot Mr. Met saying smoking is prohibited in the stadium has already been sold for $100, Meisel said. And there are hundreds of curiosities: an orange water cooler with the Mets logo and a plaque from Seton Hall University honoring Frank Cashen, who was the Mets general manager in the 1980s and considered to be the architect of the team that won the 1986 World Series. There is even a lime marker that came from the Polo Grounds, the original home of the Mets, that was still used by the grounds crew at Shea. Toward the front of the warehouse is a cluster of fan assistance, concession and program booths that Meisel said would look great in any Met fan's backyard. One of the most intriguing items is the concrete marker that was placed in the left field upper deck where centerfielder Tommie Agee hit the longest home run in Shea Stadium's history, on April 10, 1969. Some of the most popular items salvaged from the stadium are not in the warehouse because they've already been sold. All of the stadium's 31 turnstiles have been sold. It was a daunting job, but all of the items were recovered from Shea Stadium after the last game of the season. Swing bidder Many of the items from Shea will be auctioned on the MeiGray's group's Web site. The first auction ended Friday, Oct. 31, but Meisel said there will be future monthly auctions. He estimates it will take a year to sell everything from the stadium. Proceeds from the sale will be divided among New York City, which owns the stadium, and the Mets Foundation, said Jay Horowitz, vice president of media relations for the Mets. The Mets Foundation funds and promotes a variety of charitable causes, including educational, social and athletic programs for young people. What people are willing to pay for some of the items has Meisel scratching his head. For example, the wrought-iron "tree surrounds" with the Mets logo that protected the trees in the parking lot are receiving bids of more than $1,000. Menu board signs from concession stands are fetching bids around $1,000. A section of the outfield wall goes for close to $900. Bids on ketchup and mustard holders with the Mets logo are more than $500. Even a neon Bud Light sign has a bid of $515. As a literal sign of better times, an outfield wall panel with an AIG advertisement had a bid of $1,420. "This (sale) only happens once every 45 years," Meisel said. A Jersey boy Meisel and his partner Bob Gray started the MeiGray Group in the 1990s. After 19 years as a sportswriter for the Daily News covering professional hockey and the New York Giants, Meisel said he became tired of traveling. Meisel's decision to channel his interest in sports into a new career came at an opportune time. With the economy growing steadily, the market for collectible sports memorabilia began to boom in the late 1990s. He developed the idea of selling authenticated jerseys that were worn by professional hockey players. He wrote a business plan and approached one of the teams that he used to cover, the New York Rangers, and in August 1997 signed an exclusive deal to sell the team's previously worn jerseys. The Rangers deal led to agreements with the New Jersey Devils. Next, the MeiGray group inked deals with NBA teams. An NHL or NBA player goes through about six jerseys during a season, three in the home uniform and three in the away uniforms, he said. Last week, as Meisel was sitting in the warehouse, he showed a jersey that had been worn the previous night by Elton Brand, an NBA veteran free agent, who had made his debut as a Philadelphia 76er on the night of Wednesday, Oct. 29. "It smells," Meisel said. "It's sweaty." But it's also valuable to collectors and fans of Brand. That's why representatives, working with the teams' equipment managers, of the MeiGray Group often go into locker rooms immediately after games to get the jerseys. The key to the business, headquartered in Branchburg, is the authentication process that guarantees buyers they are getting genuine items. The jersey comes with a letter of authentication with the team's letterhead, Meisel said. The MeiGray Group has seven full-time employees who are responsible for acquiring the items, cataloging and pricing them, selling them and then shipping them to the buyers. "We have a great staff," Meisel said, adding that he hires collectors to help him put values on the items. The company's growing reputation was one of the reasons why the MeiGray Group got the contract with the Mets to sell the memorabilia from Shea Stadium, which is owned by the City of New York. Meisel is no longer spending hours away from home traveling for his job, but said he works from 60 to 70 hours a week. "I'm happy," he said. "This is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity." John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 03 2008 07:58 AM ="soupcan"]Dunkin' Donuts Down! Finally some destruction I can support. It be cool if we cracked that open and Rachel Ray would come out naked. Edgy DC Nov 03 2008 08:01 AM it would be kind of cool to give the Agee marker to the Agee family. Ditto the Seaver/Stengel/Hodges numbers. Farmer Ted Nov 03 2008 08:42 AM The DD sign was an eyesore. Those stupid police lights and the K sign were bad ideas drawn up by some idiot in a board room. Edgy DC Nov 03 2008 08:47 AM Doesn't this look like they composed a Met jersey and photoshopped it onto a Yankee picture of Wille? metirish Nov 03 2008 08:48 AM ] Finally some destruction I can support. It be cool if we cracked that open and Rachel Ray would come out naked. Saw her recently and couldn't believe how heavy she has gotten. Benjamin Grimm Nov 03 2008 08:55 AM Rachael Ray is an example of how someone can be both cute AND unappealing at the same time. Edgy DC Nov 03 2008 08:58 AM Can we just not talk about happy homemakers from TV ever? Benjamin Grimm Nov 03 2008 09:04 AM metsguyinmichigan Nov 03 2008 09:53 AM ="Benjamin Grimm":2zdqcdh1]Rachael Ray is an example of how someone can be both cute AND unappealing at the same time.[/quote:2zdqcdh1] Well, if you go back to the early shows on Food Network, she was always a little chunky, part of her girl next door appeal. She certainly had a makeover when the show went big, and this year appeared to have some, um, surgical enhancements, in the chest area, unless they did some severe Photoshop work for the magazine covers. My crush on Rachael is well-known, and somewhat tolerated by my wife. Benjamin Grimm Nov 03 2008 11:14 AM It's not her weight that makes her unappealing, it's the noises that come out of her mouth. G-Fafif Nov 03 2008 11:42 AM ="Edgy DC":2j9ucmx8]Doesn't this look like they composed a Met jersey and photoshopped it onto a Yankee picture of Wille? [/quote:2j9ucmx8] This would explain why the Mets in recent years seemed so flat. metsguyinmichigan Nov 03 2008 12:10 PM ="Benjamin Grimm":1wzmvwjl]It's not her weight that makes her unappealing, it's the noises that come out of her mouth.[/quote:1wzmvwjl] She talks? Benjamin Grimm Nov 03 2008 12:17 PM She tries. themetfairy Nov 03 2008 01:02 PM She squawks. seawolf17 Nov 03 2008 02:46 PM ="soupcan":1mxbmvn9]A sign of team mascot Mr. Met saying smoking is prohibited in the stadium has already been sold for $100, Meisel said.[/quote:1mxbmvn9] FUCKIN' HELL. That's all I wanted from the stadium. I just left a message with someone at MeiGray. soupcan Nov 07 2008 07:18 AM Found these at baseball-fever.com First game ever at Shea... Last game ever at Shea... Benjamin Grimm Nov 07 2008 07:37 AM It was prettier when it opened than when it closed. Edgy DC Nov 07 2008 08:39 AM The pitch could have been in better condition. G-Fafif Nov 07 2008 09:00 AM A ballpark that looked better with a parking lot in the background will now itself be a parking lot. The irony is as thick as the outfield grass was thin. Benjamin Grimm Nov 07 2008 09:12 AM Looking at the two photos together really shows how much garishness was added to Shea over the years. I'm sure Citi Field with start out with a lot of that clutter already in place. I can only imagine what it will look like 40 years from now. (And I hope I live to find out! At this point, another 40 years is about as much as I care to get.) John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 07 2008 09:33 AM ="Edgy DC":2749cxyp]The pitch could have been in better condition.[/quote:2749cxyp] Shea was barely complete when it opened. They worked till the very last minute. They said it was very soft and muddy in the outfield. metirish Nov 07 2008 09:40 AM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":1qbr6llo] ="Edgy DC":1qbr6llo]The pitch could have been in better condition.[/quote:1qbr6llo] Shea was barely complete when it opened. They worked till the very last minute. They said it was very soft and muddy in the outfield.[/quote:1qbr6llo] Was there even a fence at the back behind CF separating it form the parking lot , it's hard to tell. soupcan Nov 07 2008 09:43 AM And half of the parking lot isn't even paved yet. Willets Point Nov 07 2008 09:46 AM All the cars are the same size though. soupcan Nov 11 2008 08:03 AM First base Field level is gone, Third base nearly so. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 08:14 AM One advantage to implosions (yes, I realize that wasn't possible in this case) is that they're quick. This is like a band-aid being slowly and painfully peeled off. seawolf17 Nov 11 2008 11:29 AM ="themetfairy":2tehg78d]One advantage to implosions (yes, I realize that wasn't possible in this case) is that they're quick. This is like a band-aid being slowly and painfully peeled off.[/quote:2tehg78d] No kidding. I should stop opening this thread. G-Fafif Nov 11 2008 12:26 PM That sure was some tadium. Zvon Nov 11 2008 12:57 PM ="themetfairy":3vpl9tnq]One advantage to implosions (yes, I realize that wasn't possible in this case) is that they're quick. This is like a band-aid being slowly and painfully peeled off.[/quote:3vpl9tnq] I couldn't have said it better. I have to say I am a bit surprised how the destruction of Shea is effecting me. It has to be this slow torturous way I'm viewing it bit by bit. ="seawolf17":3vpl9tnq]No kidding. I should stop opening this thread.[/quote:3vpl9tnq] I'm with you seawolf17. Edgy DC Nov 11 2008 01:12 PM We let this happen. More than a few advocated it's happening. It's no time to turn away now. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 01:22 PM I'll own up to wanting the new stadium. I'm not denying that. But I've seen this transition done in several other cities during the past few years, and to a team they've all handled it better than the Mets have. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 01:34 PM I'm enjoying the pictures and saving everyone one of them. Keep 'em coming, I stopped licking my wound about ten days ago. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 01:35 PM tmf: they've all handled it better than the Mets have <<< How so? soupcan Nov 11 2008 01:39 PM I'll miss the old girl too but c'mon. Think of what it will be like having wide walkways! Benjamin Grimm Nov 11 2008 01:42 PM Wide walkways and legroom are nothing to sneeze at. I'd feel differently if I still lived in New York. But as rarely as I get to Shea Queens to see the Mets play anymore, I don't think Citi Field will ever feel like home to me. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 01:44 PM I remember the Phillies homage to the Vet in 2003 - a stadium that was younger than Shea and didn't have nearly the history Shea did. IIRC they were the first to take down a number before each game, but they made sure that every number was taken down by someone with a meaningful connection to the team or the stadium (not a Lincoln Mercury dealer in the lot). Their post-game ceremony after their final game was very moving (I'll find the link to it shortly), without the idiotic delay that Mets fans had to endure after Shea's final game. They had books ghost written by the Phillies Phanatic helping prepare younger fans for the move. From top to bottom it just seemed like a much better thought out operation. Edgy DC Nov 11 2008 01:49 PM That has little to do with photos of the de-construction. Is a delay before a ceremony such a big deal? themetfairy Nov 11 2008 01:52 PM The delay before the ceremony was just endemic of the half-assed job the Mets did in properly celebrating Shea's final season. They had an opportunity to do the old girl real justice, and they dropped the ball every chance they could. I couldn't find that footage of the final game ceremony at the Vet on the Phillies' site (and I feel very dirty trolling around there - ick!). But it had much more of a well-planned feel to it. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 01:56 PM How did we get from handling the transition in a day by day demolition thread which you said other teams did better to closing ceremonies and silly number countdowns? themetfairy Nov 11 2008 02:06 PM ="KC"]How did we get from handling the transition in a day by day demolition thread which you said other teams did better to closing ceremonies and silly number countdowns? I mentioned the transition in general. You asked for details. I think that if the Mets did a better job in paying homage to Shea this past season that people wouldn't be as upset about its destruction as they are. Agree or disagree with that premise - it's merely a theory. Edgy DC Nov 11 2008 02:08 PM I wouldn't feel dirty seeking for it if you liked it. If you like it, you like it. It's all MLB's website anyhow. I'm just not ready to kick the Mets because they don't demolish the stadium in a manner comparable to the White Sox or the Rangers. Or such having anything to do with why folks say they won't open this thread. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 02:12 PM You seem to be switching gears, going from "we let this happen/some advocated for it" to "I'm not ready to kick the Mets." You cool with this or not? Kong76 Nov 11 2008 02:15 PM tmf: I mentioned the transition in general. You asked for details <<< How did all the others "to a team" handle the dismantling of their old stadium better than the Mets? Edgy DC Nov 11 2008 02:21 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Nov 11 2008 02:27 PM You're excerpting phrases out of sentences there. It's clear to anybody that I didn't support a new stadium. How it's demolished is a moot point and I don't see how it can be done better, or indeed has been done better by everyone else. Frayed Knot Nov 11 2008 02:25 PM Maybe they can demolish the stadium by bringing each piece out on a velvet pillow laid out on a sled pulled by a puppy dog. I'm sure we'd all feel better then. This wound-licking is getting too much. I want video of the destruction and i hope it's bloody. Benjamin Grimm Nov 11 2008 02:29 PM I don't think the Mets did such a bad job with the last year of Shea. Yeah, there were too many Lincoln-Mercury dealers pulling down the numbers. But I think the closing ceremony was nicely done. Very nicely done. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 02:36 PM The physical demolition of Shea has to be done in this manner because implosion is not possible. My point is that I don't think that people would be reacting to the demolition process as painfully as they are if the Mets had done a better job of honoring Shea properly in its final season. Benjamin Grimm Nov 11 2008 02:38 PM Speaking only for myself, I just find it a little bit sad. No pain though. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 02:39 PM I know people who are in real pain over this. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 02:44 PM There's no way I could cull what fairy's point was from what she typed, I don't read posters minds, we were talking about the demolition pics. Problem with getting too wrapped up in the Mets will never be the same with- out good ol' Shea is before you know it's twenty years from now and you're writing letters to the paper like Bob L about how greener the grass was there and popcorn fresher. The bathroom floors were even drier and less sticky 20 years from now too I bet and those wonderful sight lines ... themetfairy Nov 11 2008 02:50 PM If that's the case, then I weep for the yet-to-be-finished Citi Field. Frayed Knot Nov 11 2008 02:54 PM I think we're starting to sound like the wound-lickers we used to make fun of; - oh no, this stadium is being destroyed worse than any other stadium in the history of destroyed stadiums - only the Mets could paint their foul lines crooked - why did Shea have to die so young? Kong76 Nov 11 2008 02:57 PM tmf: I know people who are in real pain over this <<< Send 'em here! Edgy DC Nov 11 2008 03:00 PM ="Frayed Knot":3qcqh3up]I think we're starting to sound like the wound-lickers we used to make fun of; - oh no, this stadium is being destroyed worse than any other stadium in the history of destroyed stadiums - only the Mets could paint their foul lines crooked - why did Shea have to die so young?[/quote:3qcqh3up] Wait a minute, that second one wuz you. Edgy DC Nov 11 2008 03:00 PM ="KC"]tmf: I know people who are in real pain over this <<< Send 'em here! I think they're minors. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 03:02 PM Actually, Iubital's post yesterday ("it doesn't surprise me") started me on this build up of let's stop the wound licking that was bound to come out. I think. I ain't going back to look. (OE: meaning the foul line not lining up) themetfairy Nov 11 2008 03:18 PM ="Edgy DC"] ="KC"]tmf: I know people who are in real pain over this <<< Send 'em here! I think they're minors. No - the minors I know aren't as connected to Shea as most of the adults I know. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 03:24 PM How do they feel about the demolition? Do the also feel that it's being handled "to a team" much worse by the Mets? Or are they just bitter about the closing ceremonies and number countdown too? Send 'em here. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 03:32 PM Who are you talking about? Kong76 Nov 11 2008 03:39 PM The people who are in real pain over this, McFly. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 03:45 PM I'll leave it to them to specifically reply to you or not. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 03:50 PM If they're here (and I suspected they were) then you should have left them out of your poor defense to begin with and let them speak for themselves. You wiggled off like four hooks in this thread. G-Fafif Nov 11 2008 04:06 PM There is beauty, pain and joy in baseball. When they gut and pry apart where you experienced most of it, a person is likely to reflect on all three and feel, upon viewing the kinds of pictures in question, one of those sensations in particular. The beauty and the joy may have been carried out safely before MeiGray could sell them, but it is not surprising that the pain should linger and overshadow for many if not all across the duration of the demolition. Later? Who knows? We haven't been there yet. I suspect the beauty and the pain and the joy will coalesce into the warmer memories the magic of distance allows. Reality says somebody's doing a job in taking down Shea Stadium. Reality says the plan has been on the table long enough for everybody to adjust to the plan. But baseball and reality were never intended to mesh so easily. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 04:17 PM Eloquent as ever, and on topic. Bravo! themetfairy Nov 11 2008 04:29 PM ="KC":cumx5g68]If they're here (and I suspected they were) then you should have left them out of your poor defense to begin with and let them speak for themselves. You wiggled off like four hooks in this thread.[/quote:cumx5g68] Don't ask direct questions if you're not going to like the answers. What was I supposed to do? Ignore you? G-Fafif Nov 11 2008 04:32 PM ="KC":3vuetxpl]Eloquent as ever, and on topic. Bravo![/quote:3vuetxpl] Thanks much, but just throwing the last pitch of what TMF stated quite reasonably, I think...Benitez to the Fairy's Leiter, as it were. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 04:33 PM Thanks G. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 04:35 PM I disagree, I think she said something and then changed it to something else and then played on then something else. I have to stop, I'm gonna start getting PM's about causing waves in the bath tub. Frayed Knot Nov 11 2008 04:38 PM ="Edgy DC"] ="Frayed Knot"]I think we're starting to sound like the wound-lickers we used to make fun of; - oh no, this stadium is being destroyed worse than any other stadium in the history of destroyed stadiums - only the Mets could paint their foul lines crooked - why did Shea have to die so young? Wait a minute, that second one wuz you. Yes, but I was just noting the fact that they looked off via the angle in that aerial shot. What followed was a reply which stated that only the Mets could do something like that as if the new stadium really will have foul poles 150' from home plate on account of this organization being so incompetant that the thought of seeing where the lines actually lead hasn't yet occured to anyone during this whole multi-million dollar operation. I'd bring up the one post wondering if they really had to ruin the grass with all that machinery during the deconstruction but I don't think that one was totally serious (although I waver at times). G-Fafif Nov 11 2008 04:39 PM I find it way more upsetting that I posted my way up from Richie Hebner only to morph into Jerry DiPoto. Who ranks these things? Oh right. Us. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 04:46 PM ="KC":6z6ktyl3]I disagree, I think she said something and then changed it to something else and then played on then something else. I have to stop, I'm gonna start getting PM's about causing waves in the bath tub.[/quote:6z6ktyl3] I did nothing of the kind. I answered a question that you asked me. You chose not to like the answer. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 05:05 PM I ain't outlining it for you, and don't be so fucking snippy. You're not always right. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 05:07 PM I'm just playing defense here. I'm not the one accusing people of changing things around. Nor have I done or said anything that merits you swearing at me. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 05:16 PM I'm sorry, but you're just freakin' maddening sometimes. Poorly handled transition does not equal demolition. Go wiggle yourself. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 05:24 PM I never said it equaled demolition. I was talking about people's reactions to the demolition. And nothing I said justifies the kind of reaction you're having. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 05:33 PM No, your first response was about the closing ceremonies and the count down .... have you been drinking with cooby? I'm comfortable with my reaction for purposes of this thread and I apologize for cursing and that's all I have to say on the matter. C'mon, "go wiggle yourself" was pretty funny. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 05:43 PM No, I have not been drinking. This is what you consider an apology? I made a comment about the transition being handled poorly. You asked me to extrapolate. I did, and you reacted in a pretty hostile manner. If you don't like my opinion that's your prerogative. But you needn't go off like that just because you disagree with it. Kong76 Nov 11 2008 05:50 PM I apologized for cursing, that's it. Your reading comprehension skills are taking a beating in this thread. themetfairy Nov 11 2008 05:54 PM No. I'm simply taking a beating for not seeing an issue exactly the way that you do. Kong76 Nov 12 2008 04:20 AM A beating? If I was gonna get nasty I'd dig up a picture of you in a Phillies uniform and really stick it to you. I'm ultimately taking the beating when we argue because the bath house mentality of this board will almost always side with you. Mean ol' KC. *sigh* HahnSolo Nov 12 2008 06:42 AM Hi, I'm here for the "intelligent, lively and provocative discussion of the Mets, Ed Kranepool, and on a good day, the Ramones." Am I in the right place? Kong76 Nov 12 2008 06:58 AM seawolf17 Nov 12 2008 07:17 AM ="HahnSolo":3u9spspm]Hi, I'm here for the "intelligent, lively and provocative discussion of the Mets, Ed Kranepool, and on a good day, the Ramones." Am I in the right place?[/quote:3u9spspm] Eff that. I come here for the weekly KC/Scarlet fights. Edgy DC Nov 12 2008 07:35 AM I missed a GREAT NIGHT. Zvon Nov 12 2008 08:48 PM whats all this then....? Pages of posts but nary an image. Addressing the issue of pain... Some of us do feel pain in regard to Shea's demise. It's not even that bad. Its a pang....a feeling of remorse. It hurts on a level that's hard to express, and its a passing phase. Eventually this will be a thing of the past. Not yet though, seeing it being ripped down bit by bit, here and at other places as well. I have been going around and collecting pictures of Shea myself. Anything I come across. Early days,recent times,....even the demolition. So I bop in here and I see there have been additions to the Shea Photo thread, and I'm like, "Oh kool! Maybe its one I haven't seen. Hope its the older Shea...but any nice pic of Shea would be sweet to see..." I hope to see pictures of Shea in way of a recollection, an homage. That's just me though. Maybe there should be a seperate thread for Shea's demolition, ...I dunno. But it's really not a big deal. As you can see I'll still check out this thread, hoping for kool pics of Shea Stadium when it was in use. I've come across some really great Shea photos online recently, especially at Baseball Fever. Like this one. I am 95% positive that thats me running onto the field after game 5 of the '73 NLCS. Edgy DC Nov 12 2008 09:05 PM Classy look. Apparently, nobody was allowed in that day --- by law --- except 21-year-old white males with shoulder-length hair, workshirts, and bellbottoms. Zvon Nov 12 2008 09:15 PM ="Edgy DC":3fjgok91]Classy look. Apparently, nobody was allowed in that day --- by law --- except 21-year-old white males with shoulder-length hair, workshirts, and bellbottoms.[/quote:3fjgok91] Not so. I was 15. Kong76 Nov 13 2008 04:34 AM EDC: Classy look. Apparently, nobody was allowed in that day --- by law --- except 21-year-old white males with shoulder-length hair, workshirts, and bellbottoms ------------- I never noticed, but you're right. It looks like they just opened a gate for field level gen adm for a Deep Purple concert or something and all the guys are scrambling to get a good spot. Cool picture to be in. G-Fafif Nov 13 2008 05:42 AM It's fascinating, from a cultural perspective, to contrast the crowds storming the field images from '69 and '73. The tumult of the '60s may have waned away from the ballpark, but its remnants seem to have become codified in places that were largely shielded from change while change was at its most intense: like the ballpark. (Which is probably what pissed Dick Young off so.) It's often been said there was more of an edge to the '73 rushing of the field than '69's, for what that's worth. I don't remember the Orioles complaining they were frightened for their well-being the way the Reds did. That YouTube clip that MLB pulled earlier this year, the pregame show from Game Four of the '73 World Series, showed (to me anyway) what a different world we were living in versus four years earlier, not just in style but substance. If you recall, Kubek, Seaver and Hunter were all taking Charlie Finley to task for his handling of the Mike Andrews situation. Questioning authority, kind of a radical concept in establishment circles in 1969, was part of the polyester fabric of the game by 1973. Probably not a coincidence this was the same year as the Senate's Watergate hearings nor that within two weeks there would be such a backlash to the Saturday Night Massacre. soupcan Nov 14 2008 09:54 AM Latest shots from wcbs880 chopper... Field level is completely gone now. Here's some interesting stuff that I got from baseball fever. Shea Demolition Plans: Edgy DC Nov 14 2008 09:58 AM What's a "NON-BEARTING STRUCTURE"? Benjamin Grimm Nov 14 2008 10:00 AM Before anyone else beats me to it, let me just get this out of the way: It figures! The stupid Mets can't even get the spelling right! Willets Point Nov 14 2008 10:04 AM Question for Zvon. Is your shirt open showing your Siegfried & Roy hairless chest or were you wearing a fleshtone t-shirt? Zvon Nov 14 2008 01:26 PM ="Willets Point"]Question for Zvon. Is your shirt open showing your Siegfried & Roy hairless chest or were you wearing a fleshtone t-shirt? lol. I never went around displaying my slinky chest so I'm sure that's a T-shirt. Doubt it was fleshtone, probly orange. Thing is I'm not positive that's me. First time I saw the pic I looked right past that guy searching for me. Eventually I got back to him and thought that must be me. I have no recollection of what I wore that day. I do know I was a skinny guy with long hair who always wore white sneaks. If I had on a flannel shirt, which I wore often enough, it be rolled up at the sleeves. And the path I took puts me right about where that guy is. After that I ran to the edge of the home plate grass, stopped... saw that girl on the mound (looks like she's going for the rubber <[joke setup<]).. our eyes met...I ran to her on the mound and we did a Koosman/Grote type jump and hug. Twirled in a circle, split and ran in different directions. I never saw her again but I'll never forget that moment. Benjamin Grimm Nov 14 2008 01:27 PM I had no idea that Marlo Thomas was there that day! metirish Nov 14 2008 01:34 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Nov 14 2008 01:34 PM WOW , what a great picture , guy in the yellow shirt at second stands out and I count three suits that might be security , one to the right of yellow shirt and one to the left of Buddy and one n front of him. Edgy DC Nov 14 2008 01:34 PM That's a great story. How about Barry Gibb chicken dancing to your right? Zvon Nov 14 2008 01:37 PM ="Edgy DC":38ctzctd]That's a great story. How about Barry Gibb chicken dancing to your right?[/quote:38ctzctd] No hug for him. Zvon Nov 14 2008 02:31 PM The thing about storming (and that's a very apt description) of the field in '73, and why it did get out of control, was that every kid wanted to be part of that moment, to be part of the celebration like in '69. And as the game went on we all had the same idea : to get down to field level so it was possible. We did the same thing during game four. I ended up on the 1st base side then. Rose hit that extra inning homer and the celebration was over. I was right on the rail behind the added box on the 3rd base side late in game 5. The Reds families were sitting in them. Eventually the game was stopped and they were led out to the Reds bullpen for their safety. And it's not that we were bothering them personally in any way, shape or form (fans did taunt them when they were being led away though, lol). Its just that there was a sea of people behind them that became like one big giant swaying creature. We could not move independently, could hardly even breath. And you know what I did then? I jumped the rail into the make shift box. Like the Reds families I was a bit concerned for my safety. Unfortunately everyone along the rail ended up jumping into the box like lemmings. Again we became crammed. I saw the fans on the 1st base side did the same thing, but they were so packed in that the little wooden wall that enclosed the section collapsed, and they spilled out onto the field. The game had to be halted again. Tug was on the mound at this point. He was pissed off. I remember him approaching the pile of people waving his arms over and over in an upward motion as if to say EVERYONE! BACK UP AND INTO THE STANDS! It was pretty crazy. I got so sandwiched in the corner of the box that I felt that we were gonna burst out on this side too. I jumped out and went down into the Reds dugout. I was able to hide in plain sight there for quite a few minutes, sitting on a stool in the far corner of the dugout. Eventually a cop came up to me and asked what I was doing there. I told him...I was trying to stay alive, lol. He told me I had to stay alive back up in the stands. This was when I was shown on TV, when the cop was talking to me. (my parents and brothers got to see that from home. My bros thought it was the koolest thing, my folks were like wtf were you doing?). I've told this story before here (I have also mentioned looking for the footage of me on TV and it is nowhere to be found.) but I don't think I ever stressed the point that what happened occurred because too many kids had this dream of being in a '69 like celebration highlight reel. And what actually happened was we so embarrassed the team, the game, the city, that that footage will forever be locked away and forgotten. One of my best Shea memories though. A Boy Named Seo Nov 14 2008 02:40 PM I re-read that part about you being in the Reds dugout a couple times thinking I misread or misunderstood you. That's the craziest thing I've ever heard. Wild story, man. Thanks for sharing. dgwphotography Nov 15 2008 12:28 PM I think I'm one of the one's in real pain over this that TMF is referring to. The thing is not once has the countdown, the ceremonies, or anything that the Mets did or didn't do play a role in it. It is simply the fact that a place that has been a desired destination for me for over 35 years is no longer there. Shea is a place that I dreamed about visiting since my aunt gave me my first yearbook in 1972. It's the knowledge that I will never feel the attachment to the new place that I do to the old place. It's the fact that it was a home away from home of sorts - a place where I knew ever nook and cranny, where I knew where to get the best knishes, or the best dogs. A place that is home to so many memories. Whatever the Mets did or didn't do to mark this occasion plays no role in how I feel about it. Benjamin Grimm Nov 15 2008 01:43 PM I agree with that, except for the part about feeling real pain. I feel a touch of sadness, and a sense of loss, but I wouldn't call it pain. Kong76 Nov 15 2008 04:31 PM I'd like to get a copy of that CAD file with the non bearting typo. Hell, they show part of the guy's name and addy and it was easily discovered who and where he is. Maybe he's got a sense of humor and would leak one to us. Edgy DC Nov 15 2008 07:56 PM Scarsdale. Vic can take a short drive and knock on his door. cooby Nov 16 2008 08:19 PM Zvon, great picture, great stories! cooby Nov 16 2008 08:20 PM And what does "Non Bearting" mean? soupcan Nov 18 2008 11:01 AM All of these from baseball-fever.com Edgy DC Nov 18 2008 11:11 AM What? The auction house couldn't generate any action on the spongetech.com sign? Farmer Ted Nov 18 2008 11:17 AM Soup's top photo shows the location of our old seats. Crushing. Willets Point Nov 18 2008 11:25 AM ="Edgy DC":133d3wiq]What? The auction house couldn't generate any action on the spongetech.com sign?[/quote:133d3wiq] Maybe Bubba Sponge? Farmer Ted Nov 18 2008 11:31 AM Missed the Spongetech sign. Very sponge worthy. soupcan Nov 20 2008 10:01 AM More pictures available at nycsubway.org 9/1963 5/10/1964 8/1/1979 8/1/1979 Tiles removed between 1979 and 1980. 8/16/1980 9/24/2008 holychicken Nov 24 2008 09:01 AM Might be a bit late for this coming in after all of the destruction pics . . . but this is one of my favorite pictures of shea. It is my gf's younger sister. John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 24 2008 09:47 AM ="holychicken"]Might be a bit late for this coming in after all of the destruction pics . . . but this is one of my favorite pictures of shea. It is my gf's younger sister. Is she like, legal? holychicken Nov 24 2008 09:56 AM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":22rs38rb]Is she like, legal?[/quote:22rs38rb] Oh, I see. You see a dark-skinned person and immediately think "illegal immigrant." You should be ashamed! ehehhe SteveJRogers Nov 24 2008 11:37 AM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket"] ="holychicken"]Might be a bit late for this coming in after all of the destruction pics . . . but this is one of my favorite pictures of shea. It is my gf's younger sister. Is she like, legal? Uh, 'Bucket, aren't you very much attached at the moment? Now Chicken, I ask you the same question! Benjamin Grimm Nov 24 2008 11:39 AM I find it a little odd to be lusting after someone when all you know is the shape of her nose. Edgy DC Nov 24 2008 11:44 AM And which pores are and aren't corrupted. holychicken Nov 24 2008 12:06 PM Exactly. I didn't even post a picture of her most desirable body part, her posterior. Dear god, tell me my gf doesn't read this forum or she will surely whup me. seawolf17 Nov 24 2008 12:08 PM ="holychicken":21z05y4i]Exactly. I didn't even post a picture of her most desirable body part, her posterior. Dear god, tell me my gf doesn't read this forum or she will surely whup me.[/quote:21z05y4i] It's okay, you can still post it. We don't mind. Edgy DC Nov 24 2008 12:25 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Nov 24 2008 12:42 PM Butts, schmutz. Steve's a snot man. seawolf17 Nov 24 2008 12:38 PM ="Edgy DC":1hrzmxox]Butts, schmutz. Steve's a snot man.[/quote:1hrzmxox] Must be a Yankee fan thing. SteveJRogers Nov 24 2008 01:14 PM ="holychicken":26x42lii]Exactly. I didn't even post a picture of her most desirable body part, her posterior. Dear god, tell me my gf doesn't read this forum or she will surely whup me.[/quote:26x42lii] Geez, I was just following Bucket's lead. I mean I need some Met Chick love more than he does! soupcan Dec 04 2008 08:12 AM All from baseball-fever John Cougar Lunchbucket Dec 04 2008 08:18 AM Mike Mulligan always said his Steam Shovel could take down one stadium as fast as 100 men could in a day, although he was never quite sure of that. Benjamin Grimm Dec 04 2008 08:26 AM So now they're chewing away at the Loge level? Are they going to get to a point where there's just an unattached Upper Level (or Upper Tank as Keith Hernandez would call it) floating high in the air? soupcan Dec 04 2008 08:28 AM Yeah that's weird isn't it? You'd think they'd go top to bottom rather than the other way around. I'd like to think that they are professional demolishers and know what they are doing rather than they might just be stupid. Edgy DC Dec 04 2008 09:21 AM I don't know. These two guys aren't winning any smart awards with me right now. << dgwphotography Dec 04 2008 10:58 AM ="soupcan"] Zvon - is it me, or does this look tone-mapped? It looks like it has that HDR glow to it... HahnSolo Dec 04 2008 11:21 AM ="Edgy DC":2sv0q5gv] I don't know. These two guys aren't winning any smart awards with me right now. << [/quote:2sv0q5gv] Those two guys are still waiting for their hot pretzel ordered at the last home game. G-Fafif Dec 04 2008 12:30 PM Talk about your stiff Breezes playing havoc with Shea's outfield. Valadius Dec 04 2008 02:00 PM Part of me is rooting to see the picture of them ripping down that Fox News sign. Edgy DC Dec 04 2008 02:14 PM You strike me as somewhat partisan. Am I right? soupcan Dec 04 2008 02:17 PM Who Vlad? Nah - he's as fair and balanced as they come. Kong76 Dec 04 2008 03:45 PM I sent those latest photos to a friend of mine. He wrote back that he thought they were building a new stadium and not just fixing up Shea and slappin' on a new coat of paint like in years gone by. Chucklehead. Zvon Dec 04 2008 04:57 PM ="Iubitul"] ="soupcan"] Zvon - is it me, or does this look tone-mapped? It looks like it has that HDR glow to it... Yes. Especially in comparison with the others. It does bring the shaded areas out. Zvon Dec 04 2008 05:02 PM I wish they would get this over with. How are they gonna take down the highest heights sans demolition? themetfairy Dec 04 2008 05:12 PM It may take a while. I remember Old Comiskey Park was in a state of partial demolition when we visited New Comiskey in August of 1991. Kong76 Dec 04 2008 05:22 PM Z: How are they gonna take down the highest heights sans demolition? <=== Cranes and stuff, and how is what they've been doing not demolition? Kong76 Dec 04 2008 05:52 PM tmf: It may take a while. <=== They don't really have much time if they plan to level the joint and make it a parking lot. My guess is they'll finish well before opening day. I don't want to get into union contracts twice tonight, but they make it worth it to finish on time so there's no lolligaggin' nowadays. Zvon Dec 05 2008 03:10 PM ="KC":21ab889l]Cranes and stuff, and how is what they've been doing not demolition?[/quote:21ab889l] Sorry. I meant the usage of explosive charges. Kong76 Dec 05 2008 03:42 PM I figured, I was just goofin'. soupcan Dec 09 2008 08:13 AM Upper deck wrecking ball. BAM! Benjamin Grimm Dec 09 2008 08:32 AM They should have painted the wrecking ball to look like a baseball. metirish Dec 09 2008 08:33 AM That would have been really taking the piss on those that see that as a sad event. Benjamin Grimm Dec 09 2008 08:37 AM It would be a nod to tradition. It's what they did with the Ebbets Field wrecking ball. The same ball was used a few years later on the Polo Grounds: Benjamin Grimm Dec 09 2008 08:50 AM Cincinnati's Crosley Field too! soupcan Dec 13 2008 02:19 PM Wow - now I'm even starting to have a hard time looking... baseball-fever.com Benjamin Grimm Dec 13 2008 02:36 PM Yikes. Edgy DC Dec 13 2008 02:55 PM GYAH! Kong76 Dec 13 2008 07:10 PM They didn't sell the panels depicting the leap and Seaver's head? Edgy DC Dec 13 2008 07:23 PM It looks like the terrorist hit we were praying wouldn't happen actually did. Kong76 Dec 13 2008 07:44 PM Fuck terrorists, an accidental plane crash on a foggy evening in the wrong flight path was what I thought mighta happened one day. *62 Dec 14 2008 12:56 PM The pictures may be gruesome but the Stadium has overstayed its welcome. I may miss living in Brooklyn desperately, but 3,000 sq. ft. is way better than 920. Edgy DC Dec 14 2008 05:11 PM I don't get the reference. *62 Dec 14 2008 05:39 PM I love Shea for lots of reasons, and will miss it some ..... but it's a dump. Better? Edgy DC Dec 14 2008 05:53 PM I thought those numbers referred to something. Rockin' Doc Dec 14 2008 06:57 PM I think *62 lives in Florida if my memory is correct. He apparently once lived in Brooklyn and apparently hung out at Shea quite a bit in the past. I think he was stating that he missed living in Brooklyn, but preferred the 3000 sq. ft. of living space he can now afford over the 920 sq. ft. of living space he had in Brooklyn. Living in the south and comparing costs for homes with my friends and relatives relatives that live near the city, I understand what he is referring too. Then again, maybe I miss interpreted the meaning of his post. Either way, it's nice to have *62 posting here again. I hope he hangs around. soupcan Dec 16 2008 01:42 PM StadiumPage.com Benjamin Grimm Dec 16 2008 02:04 PM It's amazing that just ten weeks ago it was still full of color and people and noise. soupcan Dec 18 2008 07:45 PM soupcan Dec 29 2008 07:51 AM soupcan Jan 05 2009 12:40 PM G-Fafif Jan 05 2009 12:52 PM Impressive Photoshopping, Soup. Quite interesting to see what Shea Stadium would look like if somebody went mad and started to tear it down. If it wouldn't be too much trouble, please put Shea back together again. Thank you. batmagadanleadoff Jan 05 2009 01:18 PM ="soupcan"]http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q308/soupcan11/shea5-1.jpg That neon batter just reminded me of Gary Carter' follow through, particularly the way Gary would take an inside pitch and line drive one-bounce it to the outfielder for a single. Are there any other Mets that the neon hitter resembles? Edgy DC Jan 05 2009 02:35 PM Looks kind of slender for Carter. It also looks like a guy going to right, while Carter more typically pulled. metirish Jan 13 2009 01:35 PM from 01/10/2009 metsguyinmichigan Jan 13 2009 02:35 PM They're not saving any of the neon players? I know they're huge. but heck, they could slice them up and sell them for $10 a foot to geeks like me! Zvon Jan 13 2009 02:58 PM ="metsguyinmichigan":8phckkps]They're not saving any of the neon players? I know they're huge. but heck, they could slice them up and sell them for $10 a foot to geeks like me![/quote:8phckkps] Why sell just their feet? John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 13 2009 04:19 PM wham G-Fafif Jan 13 2009 04:53 PM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":1virpusd]wham[/quote:1virpusd] "Wake Me Up Before You Go Go" vs. "Baby I'm Your Man" Whoops...wrong thread. metirish Jan 15 2009 08:00 AM Newsday today has a classic Shea pictures collection. Die-hard fans dance in the aisles at 1:50 a.m. during the 21st inning of a 25-inning marathon game between the Mets and the Cardinals at Shea Stadium. (AP Photo / September 12, 1974) A view of Shea Stadium during the national anthem before a New York Mets-Los Angeles Dodgers game in 1973. (AP Photo / June 9, 1973) Fans rush onto the field and players celebrate after the Mets defeated the Baltimore Orioles to win the 1969 World Series. (AP Photo / October 16, 1969 A view of Shea Stadium after after souvenir-hunting fans ripped up the sod following the Mets' victory in the 1969 World Series. (AP Photo / October 16, 1969) Pirates first baseman Willie Stargell waves to the crowd at Shea Stadium during Willie Stargell Night at Shea. The man at left wiping his eye is Nelson Doubleday, Mets chairman of the board. (Newsday / Paul J. Bereswill / September 27, 1982 The new owners of the Mets pose at Shea Stadium. From left: Stephen E. O'Neil, president of City Investing Company; Nelson Doubleday, president of Doubleday Co.; Fred Wilpon, Chairman of the Board of Sterling Equities and John O. Pickett, owner of the NHL New York Islanders, who was instrumental in setting up the sale of the team. Pickett was not listed as an owner of the club. (AP File Photo / January 25, 1980) Car fire involving several cars in the Shea Stadium parking lot during a game in 2002. (AP Photo / April 27, 2002) Workers Angelo DiMaria, left, and Dominico Bannezo clean off old paint and rust as they get Shea Stadium ready for Opening Day in 2001. (Newsdya / J. Conrad Williams Jr / March 28, 2001) > soupcan Jan 15 2009 08:09 AM Amazing how much Jeff looks like his dad used to. Even down to the bad hairdo. ="metirish"] Edgy DC Jan 15 2009 08:10 AM Car Fire Day: Best. Promotion. Ever. HahnSolo Jan 15 2009 08:36 AM I miss crazy old Uncle Nelson. soupcan Jan 15 2009 08:39 AM Pop Quiz - without looking it up, how much did Nelson & Jeff pay for the Mets in 1980. If I remember right, I think it was $20 million. Farmer Ted Jan 15 2009 08:45 AM I only recall $350 million or so to finally kick Doubleday to the curb in '02. Edgy DC Jan 15 2009 09:02 AM Who pitched on Car Fire Day? metirish Jan 15 2009 09:07 AM ="Edgy DC":kdd41i0v]Who pitched on Car Fire Day?[/quote:kdd41i0v] I remember that game , I should say I remember it from watching it on TV and the announcers talking about the fire in the parking lot and showing it. I'll guess that Steve Trachsel pitched . John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 15 2009 09:14 AM ="soupcan":sgwypaic]Pop Quiz - without looking it up, how much did Nelson & Jeff pay for the Mets in 1980. If I remember right, I think it was $20 million.[/quote:sgwypaic] For some reason $21 million is the number I remember but geez. Edgy DC Jan 15 2009 09:14 AM Pedro Pistacio took a no-hiiter into the seventh the day after a crisp one-hitter by Testes. It was game two of a three-game sweep over Milwaukee and, for a minute there, it looked like the 2002 Mets had scrapped together a winning rotation of Leiter-Estes-Astacio-D'Amico-Trachsel. That plan blew up in the parking lot like so many SUVs. Edgy DC Jan 15 2009 09:15 AM Is that logo stitched together? It acually looks like a giant shoulder patch. soupcan Jan 15 2009 09:16 AM D'Amico. I had high hopes for him. soupcan Jan 15 2009 09:17 AM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":esm8z809]For some reason $21 million is the number I remember but geez.[/quote:esm8z809] I think you're right. dgwphotography Jan 15 2009 11:19 AM ="batmagadanleadoff"] ="soupcan"] That neon batter just reminded me of Gary Carter' follow through, particularly the way Gary would take an inside pitch and line drive one-bounce it to the outfielder for a single. Are there any other Mets that the neon hitter resembles? flip it around, and it's Mex. attgig Jan 15 2009 12:16 PM ="metirish"] Fans rush onto the field and players celebrate after the Mets defeated the Baltimore Orioles to win the 1969 World Series. (AP Photo / October 16, 1969 > i wonder if that will ever be allowed in pro sports. when did that stop? it's only on college that you see fans rushing the field. why is that? Edgy DC Jan 15 2009 12:19 PM Because student athletes don't need/demand protection from the masses the way millionnaire atheletes do. Why is the cop screening home plate doing the time warp? metirish Jan 15 2009 12:23 PM How about the guy down the RF line jumping from the stands? Benjamin Grimm Jan 15 2009 12:23 PM I think it stopped in 1986, at least in New York. The fans rushed the field after the division clincher, but the mounted cops prevented it in the World Series. I think, though, that the Phillies had the cops on horseback for the 1980 World Series. John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 17 2009 12:20 PM I went out there this morning, photos on facebook. Here's a vid shot as the 7 train arrives in Willets Pt. metirish Jan 17 2009 01:59 PM Great pictures btw. soupcan Jan 18 2009 01:53 PM These are from baseballfever... Kong76 Jan 18 2009 02:08 PM Even dollar cost averaging down to ~ 7 1/2, that sums up my Citigroup stock feelings. I've been somewhat unaffected by most of the images, but this one is particularly eerie to me: Kong76 Jan 18 2009 02:10 PM I know the home opener is late this year, but are they really gonna have the ol' girl completely gone by then and a parking lot installed? I thought they'd be more far along. Benjamin Grimm Jan 18 2009 03:30 PM I'm not sure they have to. The existing parking lot served Shea for the last few years, and Shea held more fans than Citi will. Kong76 Jan 18 2009 03:37 PM I don't mean they have to, I just thought that was the plan. Since groundbreaking, parking there has been a pain in the neck and I took the train mostly to games. I like to tailgate, plan on doing it a lot this year, and it's easier to do with a car. John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 18 2009 04:26 PM ="Kong76":3gm6qt5k]I know the home opener is late this year, but are they really gonna have the ol' girl completely gone by then and a parking lot installed? I thought they'd be more far along.[/quote:3gm6qt5k] Official plan is the last bits of Shea are to be disappeared by June 30. Those photos put mine to shame! metirish Jan 23 2009 02:23 PM Vince Coleman Firecracker Jan 23 2009 02:43 PM An auto body shop in a Quonset hut. Fantastic. Willets Point Jan 23 2009 02:44 PM I've got dibs on "City * Field * Collision" as my band's name. Frayed Knot Jan 24 2009 11:28 AM The ends of the horseshoe are starting to disappear http://www.wfan.com/pages/3706726.php?imageGalleryXRefId=907755#imgXR http://www.wfan.com/pages/3706726.php?imageGalleryXRefId=907756#imgXR G-Fafif Jan 24 2009 11:53 AM It's a stump, but it's our stump. dgwphotography Jan 24 2009 01:07 PM soupcan Jan 26 2009 12:33 PM More at stadiumpage.com Frayed Knot Jan 26 2009 12:56 PM btw, Harvey Araton tees off the Yanx in a piece in Sunday's NYTimes. Specifically it's the sweet time they're taking in getting rid of the old park even though the new one is nearly finished and that the whole deal was based on trading stadium space for park land, park land that now seems destined for 2011 at the earliest. Their answer as to when they'll get around to even starting deconstruction is essentially "when we fuckin' get around to it - now go away and stop bothering us", even as they had no problem making a public spectacle about marching their offices across to the new digs the street last week. "Mayor Bloomberg, tear down this stadium" metirish Jan 26 2009 01:16 PM The arrogance of all involved is sickening , how I despise all things Yankees. SteveJRogers Jan 26 2009 02:14 PM Supposedly they are going to use YSII for a movie production, plus the plan was that either the Mets or Yankees would use YSII to play games if either Citi Field or YSIII weren't ready come April. So despite the arrogance, there really are valid reasons why it is still up. Frayed Knot Jan 26 2009 02:36 PM Even if using YSII was the on-paper 'just-in-case' backup plan in the event that some wild mishap went on with the construction of either of the new stadiums the virtually ZERO chance such a plan would ever be put into place has now shrunk to roughly that of the Lions being put into next week's Super Bowl were a case of bubonic plague to sweep through either the Steeler or Cardinal camp. And, as the article mentions, they've yet to even select a company that would do the deconstruction or set a date as to when it might start. So the reason it's not only still up but will be so for at least another year has everything to do with the fact that they haven't finished milking the old girl for every cent she's worth and if that means that the city that just re-re-issued more tax-free bonds as the price climbed over a billion dollars and the local kids in the neighborhood they claim to care so much for (whenever they weren't threatening to leave that is) go without a public park for the next few years well then that's none of their damn business. metirish Jan 28 2009 08:10 PM New York Times ] In Dead of Winter, Shea Stadium Is Melting Away By KEN BELSON Published: January 28, 2009 With each passing day, Shea Stadium, the home of the Mets since 1964, fades further from Citi Field, the team�s new home. In the last few weeks, demolition crews have been ripping down entire sections of Shea from both ends of the outfield decks toward its middle. What was once a semi-enclosed bowl with 57,000 seats is now a skeleton of a grandstand. In the first weeks after the Mets finished their final season at Shea (with another desultory loss that knocked them out of playoff contention), crews removed the seats, signs and anything else that could be sold to collectors or reused in city parks. Then demolition crews started knocking out the field level and the concrete decks that made up the loge and the mezzanine. But the structure of the stadium, built for nearly $30 million, was largely intact. Not so anymore. Since the beginning of the year, crews have clawed away at Shea�s walls and beams, exposing escalators, elevator banks and air ducts. The stands above Gates A and E have vanished and parts of the neon players that adorned the outside of the stadium are gone, too. Twelve sections of the upper deck still have their concrete floors, but the other sections that remain are outlined only by their steel beams. Unlike stadiums in other cities that have been imploded, Shea had to be taken down piece by piece because of building codes. The rat-a-tat-tat of the construction machinery drowned out the noise of the jets taking off from LaGuardia Airport. Tarps on chain link fences say �Almost Home,� a reference to the soon-to-be-opened Citi Field, but also the six-month process of erasing Shea. In all, nearly 10,000 tons of steel and another 2,500 tons of concrete will be pulled out of Shea. Some of the concrete will be ground up and reused as the base material for the parking lot that will be installed in its place. The lot will include space for 2,000 cars and signs marking where home plate and the pitcher�s mound once were. Team representatives said that the demolition will be completed some time in the coming weeks, which is not hard to imagine. On Wednesday, lines of dump trucks made their way onto what was once the outfield, weaving around piles of crumpled metal and concrete covered in snow. Several Web sites have sprung up that have chronicled the destruction of the place where Seaver once threw, Piazza once squatted and the Stork, George Theodore, once roamed. In a way, the sites are a testament to the morbid curiosity of Mets fans, who have endured many morbid Mets teams. �It�s interesting how they are doing it piece by piece,� said Eric Okurowski, a 31-year master�s candidate and a life-long Met fan from Babylon, N.Y., who runs stadiumpage.com. �Most old stadia are blown up and it takes just a few seconds. It�s pretty interesting seeing it come apart in pieces over the course of four months.� Okurowski and several other die-hard fans are organizing a final farewell at Shea at noon Saturday to share stories and take photographs of what is left of the ballpark. As Shea diminishes, Citi Field emerges. While less imposing than Shea, the new stadium, at least from the outside, has an elegance that Shea lacked. Instead of the lattice of concrete ramps that constituted Shea�s exterior, Citi Field is covered in brick and punctuated with arches and an entrance rotunda. Flood lights highlight the outside while klieg lights illuminate what is left of Shea. More Articles in Sports �A version of this article appeared in print on January 29, 2009, on page B18 of the New York edition. apmorris Jan 29 2009 04:58 PM ="metirish"]New York Times ] Okurowski and several other die-hard fans are organizing a final farewell at Shea at noon Saturday to share stories and take photographs of what is left of the ballpark. Anyone going? (bring a camera) metirish Jan 29 2009 05:28 PM People are going http://www.faithandfearinflushing.com/ G-Fafif Jan 30 2009 03:38 PM Damn, dirty apes... apmorris Jan 30 2009 04:43 PM ="G-Fafif"]Damn, dirty apes... Awesomenessness Kong76 Jan 30 2009 07:24 PM Classic pic. dgwphotography Jan 31 2009 05:41 AM that's just brilliant. Benjamin Grimm Jan 31 2009 05:44 AM That really is brilliant. metirish Jan 31 2009 05:47 AM Yeah it's very clever. themetfairy Jan 31 2009 06:19 AM It's just a model.... batmagadanleadoff Jan 31 2009 04:06 PM I'm guessing that the picture has something to do with the Statue Liberty finale in Planet of.... But that picture never came up on my browser. Not today. Not yesterday. Benjamin Grimm Jan 31 2009 04:14 PM Me neither. I had to right click, select "Copy Location" and paste the following in my browser: http://faithandfear.blogharbor.com/_photos/heston.jpg Edgy DC Feb 02 2009 07:05 AM You MANIACS! soupcan Feb 05 2009 07:11 AM From stadiumpage.com Just a matter of time now.... Benjamin Grimm Feb 05 2009 08:06 AM It's starting to look more like the grandstand you'd see at a race track. Frayed Knot Feb 05 2009 08:11 AM Never can say goodbye No no no no, I Never can say goodbye Even though the pain and heartache Seems to follow me wherever I go Though I try and try to hide my feelings They always seem to show Then you try to say you're leaving me And I always have to say no... Tell me why Is it so That I ... Never can say goodbye No no no no, I Never can say goodbye Evertime I think I had enough I start heading for the door There's a very strange vibration That pierces me right to the core It says turn around you fool You know you love her more and more Tell me why Is it so Don't wanna let yo go I never can say goodbye soupcan Feb 06 2009 10:55 AM These are from wcbs880.com. And there are a few more there as well. G-Fafif Feb 08 2009 03:10 PM Shea among the ruins... Kong76 Feb 08 2009 03:47 PM I called KB over and asked if she wanted to see an eerie picture on my laptop and she saw this and started bawling. "That's all that's left? When was that picture taken?" "Uh, I guess last time it snowed." ... (I'm obnoxious in real life too) and I told her this is like a 25 page thread of the destruction of Shea and we started talking about our Moms and games and tailgates and she got me all throaty too and crying and screw you all but ok I admit that it's hard to see the old thing disappear and I've been suppressing the sadness. There, I said it. dgwphotography Feb 09 2009 07:41 AM the first time we go there this year will be a shock. Edgy DC Feb 09 2009 07:50 AM We should go and have a tribute concert in the parking lot. G-Fafif Feb 09 2009 10:37 AM ="Kong76":1akaid2f]I called KB over and asked if she wanted to see an eerie picture on my laptop and she saw this and started bawling.[/quote:1akaid2f] My wife, who worked downtown throughout the fall of 2001, invoked Ground Zero in terms of what it reminded her of looking at. soupcan Feb 13 2009 10:09 AM Another from baseballfever.com metirish Feb 13 2009 10:27 AM Great pictures over there...taken this morning from the #7 train Benjamin Grimm Feb 13 2009 10:48 AM They should leave that last chunk in place. smg58 Feb 13 2009 12:34 PM I drove past it the other day. It's really sad to see it. soupcan Feb 14 2009 07:21 AM I'm at LaGuardia waiting for a flight. Drove past Citi and Shea. Shea looks so sad and insignificant. I'm excited and wistful at the same time. cooby Feb 14 2009 08:22 AM Please, check for ice and geese. Not joking. soupcan Feb 14 2009 08:38 AM We're flying Continental - what could go wrong? dgwphotography Feb 14 2009 09:44 AM ="metirish"] It's fitting that that's the last piece left... Frayed Knot Feb 14 2009 09:49 AM Think of it as an image of Koosman throwing the final pitch of the '69 WS. It could be Orosco/'86 too but it looks more like Koosman. dgwphotography Feb 14 2009 09:51 AM hmmmm.... I always saw Matlack in that image... dgwphotography Feb 14 2009 09:57 AM ="Iubitul"]hmmmm.... I always saw Matlack in that image... Actually, no. Bob Ojeda. SteveJRogers Feb 14 2009 11:49 AM ="Iubitul"] ="Iubitul"]hmmmm.... I always saw Matlack in that image... Actually, no. Bob Ojeda. What is that watermark on the other side of the card top? A Boy Named Seo Feb 14 2009 11:58 AM ="metirish"]Great pictures over there...taken this morning from the #7 train Nice pic, Irish. Poor, little Shea getting swallowed up by Citi on both sides. Kong76 Feb 15 2009 01:46 PM We took a ride out there today. We packed up a camera, a couple of Heineken keg cans (KB drove) and set out. I was kind of emotional getting ready but by the time we were in the car and on our way I was kinda excited. There were a bunch of people milling about doing the same thing we were and while I didn't talk to anyone we all smiled and nodded to each other like we got it. What we really should have done was cooked a few hot dogs one more time but the beer was enough I guess to count as a tailgate of sorts. The pictures posted all over the internet get redundant after awhile I suppose, but I got a few unique images. metirish Feb 15 2009 02:20 PM Great pictures , thanks. themetfairy Feb 15 2009 03:08 PM Nice shots Kase! LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Feb 15 2009 05:20 PM Thanks, sir. Beautiful and gut-wrenching. (All in all, this offseason's been like a months-long wake... except one where the guests take parts of the deceased with them as souvenirs.) A Boy Named Seo Feb 15 2009 05:30 PM Great shots, man. Love the one of you raising your can of Heiny in salutation. holychicken Feb 15 2009 05:49 PM Whoa, crazy, KC. I was there today too and took some very similar pictures. I was the jackass with my little brown dog off the leash. He was very happy to be out running about like that. Edgy DC Feb 15 2009 06:01 PM Should have a concert out there. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Feb 15 2009 06:05 PM Or an Irish wake? -Loading up on Jameson fifths/Cueing up "Body of an American" on the iPods. Kong76 Feb 15 2009 06:13 PM holyc: I was the jackass with my little brown dog off the leash <<< I didn't see any little brown pups running about. It's funny, but I really thought I'd run into at least one Mets' fan I knew out there. Running into you woulda been cool and we coulda done a Heiny. holychicken Feb 15 2009 07:42 PM Yeah, I figured there would be no one there but the when I saw the number of people there I figured I would see someone I knew. I checked everyone saw there, but didn't recognize anyone as well. I figured my dog would have stuck out tho more than me DocTee Feb 15 2009 08:27 PM Cool pics, thanks for sharing them. Did you pour some of that Heiny on the ground, ghetto style, to remember Shea, your fallen friend? Kong76 Feb 16 2009 01:11 PM Tee: Did you pour some of that Heiny on the ground <<< I have to confess that I did deposit some used Heiny behind some construction materials. Edgy DC Feb 16 2009 01:13 PM I'm going to guess you haven't puked at Shea since October 12, 1982. Kong76 Feb 16 2009 06:24 PM I had to google the date but I didn't yak that night. John Cougar Lunchbucket Feb 17 2009 09:25 AM Nice shotz guys. ah, screw it. Zvon Feb 17 2009 12:28 PM ="SteveJRogers"] ="Iubitul"] ="Iubitul"]hmmmm.... I always saw Matlack in that image... Actually, no. Bob Ojeda. What is that watermark on the other side of the card top? That's the Desert Storm logo/thing they added to sets of cards for the troops overseas back in the day. themetfairy Feb 17 2009 02:00 PM Zvon! How have you been? attgig Feb 17 2009 03:53 PM http://twitpic.com/photos/bluenautica one last piece remaining. Frayed Knot Feb 18 2009 11:14 AM Last piece down (video available via Newsday's main sports page) It's all over but the sweeping. soupcan Feb 24 2009 08:02 AM These I guess are almost a week old. From http://www.stadiumpage.com Edgy DC Feb 24 2009 08:14 AM To heck with your copyright, Gary. soupcan Feb 24 2009 08:32 AM 'Zactly. Zvon Feb 24 2009 02:38 PM ="Edgy DC":33njl1ow]To heck with your copyright, Gary.[/quote:33njl1ow] I'll photoshop that out. Shhhh. holychicken Feb 24 2009 03:59 PM ="Zvon":13ygrx4a] ="Edgy DC":13ygrx4a]To heck with your copyright, Gary.[/quote:13ygrx4a] I'll photoshop that out. Shhhh.[/quote:13ygrx4a] Simple crop job ought to do. Edgy DC Mar 16 2009 02:56 PM Mini-Shea ripped up from the ground. http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/03/16/you-too-can-own-a-piece-of-the-mini-city/ Farmer Ted Mar 16 2009 03:14 PM They couldn't save those two satellite dishes? Coulda saved me a few bucks with DirecTV.