Mets Fire Randolph, Peterson and Nieto.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

This is about Madden and his hard-on for 1970s Yankees. It informs the DN's entire sports-page POV.

[Guest themetfairy]

I can take this from Jon Stewart, because he's bleeding with us -

[Guest AG/DC]

He's not with me. He's perpetuating the myth because it makes a better story and better comedy.

Willie was not fired at three o'clock in the morning. He was fired around the 11 o'clock hour, while baseball men are still wide awake and operating.

[soupcan]

="AG/DC"]Willie was not fired at three o'clock in the morning. He was fired around the 11 o'clock hour, while baseball men are still wide awake and operating.

YES, YES, YES! Why is this hard for people to see?!

He was fired at 11:00ish after the game. That's when managers get fired!

Arrrrgh.

[Guest themetfairy]

Kevin Burkhardt reported that the firing occurred at 12:15 am local time.

That's still the middle of the night in my book.

[Guest AG/DC]

Which is around the 11 o'clock hour, is certainly not three in the morning, and is about the time a manager might get back to the hotel.

If the firing is unseemly, then it's unseemly. But the method it was done seems so typically typical of an in-season firing that it's banal.

[Frayed Knot]

]the firing occurred at 12:15 am local time -- That's still the middle of the night in my book.

Except if you hold a job where the working hours are typically mid-afternoon to around
11PM. In that world 12:15 is known as the end of the working day.

Besides, 12:15 is when they sent out the press release. The discussions with the particulars
occured a short time before that.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

There are a dozen Met fans here funnier than Jon Stewart.

[soupcan]

You're sweet.

[batmagadanleadoff]

="Frayed Knot":2mqm1e0q]Except if you hold a job where the working hours are typically mid-afternoon to around 11PM. In that world 12:15 is known as the end of the working day. Besides, 12:15 is when they sent out the press release. The discussions with the particulars occured a short time before that.[/quote:2mqm1e0q] Once you get past the Midnight Massacre hype, firing Willie was one of the smartest things the Wilpons ever did. Here are my top four or five smartest things the Wilpons ever did, in no particular order: 1. Firing Willie Randolph 2. Firing Dallas Green 3. Firing Art Howe 4. Firing Jeff Torborg

Centerfield Jun 18 2008 09:07 AM

Not you.

soupcan Jun 18 2008 09:11 AM

Ouch.

Centerfield Jun 18 2008 09:13 AM

Not me either.

AG/DC Jun 18 2008 09:20 AM

Well, sheesh. If you two don't count, who could he mean? There's Rogers, sure, but he's not a Met fan.

seawolf17 Jun 18 2008 09:35 AM

No, CF counts. Remember Latvia?

themetfairy Jun 18 2008 09:41 AM

="seawolf17":35mwt1ys]No, CF counts. Remember Latvia?[/quote:35mwt1ys] Every time I hear about Latvia, I think of CF. batmagadanleadoff Jun 18 2008 06:37 PM Quotes, Comments, and Excerpts on The Midnight Massacre +1 ]Jose Reyes might just as well have spit in his new manager's face, right there on the field. Wallace Matthews, Newsday ]Less than two hours after the Mets defeated the Angels on Monday night, the announcement of Randolph's firing was released to the media -- timing that Paul Lo Duca, another former Met, called "unprofessional." Chico Harlan, Washington Post ]Wright credited Randolph for helping him blossom into one of the game's best young players, but appeared eager to move on with Manuel in charge. "I'll forever be grateful for Willie for giving me the opportunity to continue my development as a young player," Wright said. "He took this team to a different level while he was here. But that being said, I'm excited about what Jerry can bring to the table." Bart Hubbuch NY Post ]That is what constitutes being a good general manager around here, taking the bullets for the boss until the day the boss steps out of the shadows and puts one in you. Minaya knows this, having seen Steve Phillips pull the same routine eight years ago, squirming uncomfortably while painting Alex Rodriguez as a "24-and-1 guy" to cover up the truth: that his boss, Fred Wilpon, didn't want to spend the money. We know how well that worked out for Phillips and we know how it will eventually work out for Minaya.... After all, for Jeff Wilpon, the Mets' cuckoo COO, time was running out.... If he didn't nip this in the bud now, the Mets might make a run and he'd never get to do what he has been aching to do since October 2006. Jeff Wilpon would never get to can the manager. There really is no other explanation for the timing of Randolph's firing�. [A] source closely connected to the heated infighting over Randolph's future told me on Monday, "Jeff has been remorseless in his desire to get rid of Willie." That desire went back to the 2006 NLCS, after which Wilpon looked back at the series - Billy Wagner blowing a key save, Aaron Heilman giving up a game-winning home run in Game 7 and Beltran staring at a season-ending 3-2 curveball with the bases loaded - and determined that Willie Randolph was the problem. "[Jeff] is a reactive young man," the source said. "He thinks he is the baseball expert, and he decided that Willie was not the guy to lead this club...." He's also the source of most of the leaks to the media recently that the manager was on thin ice, which rendered somewhat laughable Minaya's contention that questions about Randolph's job status were becoming too much of a distraction for his continued employment.... Consequently, the Mets turned an easy firing into the front-office equivalent of blowing a seven-game lead in September. Under Jeff Wilpon's expert guidance, the Mets made the Yankees' divorce from Joe Torre look like a family retirement party. Now, they hand the whole mess over to Jerry Manuel, who seems like a nice enough guy but obviously the wrong choice. Still out there is Gary Carter, who seems like a perfect fit: a confirmed backstabber and schemer who campaigned publicly for Randolph's job last month while he was still the manager. How Jeff Wilpon missed out on a soul mate like that is almost as baffling as the firing of Willie Randolph. Wallace Matthews, Newsday ]NEW YORK (AP) � Willie Randolph figured the New York Mets would fire someone. He just didn't think general manager Omar Minaya would pick him. "I thought he was talking about whacking a couple of my coaches," the ex-manager told several New York-area newspapers Wednesday outside his home in Franklin Lakes, N.J. "That's why I was stunned. I didn't think it was going to happen," Randolph said. "At the time, I felt the way he was talking to me, that I was pretty secure for the time being...." "Not the way I would have handled it," he said. "Bottom line, it is what it is." Willie Randolph, Associated Press ]The five-hour long flight from Los Angeles to New York provides ample time for introspection. Especially if you�re Willie Randolph, now the former Mets manager. Dismissed from his job after the Mets beat the Los Angeles Angels on Monday in Anaheim, Randolph arrived back home in New Jersey late Tuesday, his head still swimming from being told by Mets General Manager Omar Minaya that he was no longer the manager of the Mets. In a telephone interview Tuesday night, Randolph said he remained stunned by the dismissal, which took place in Minaya�s hotel room. �I didn�t see this coming,� he said. �When I spoke to Omar the day before I knew there might be some changes, but I got the feeling I was safe.� Or at least, Randolph added, safe until the next Mets-Yankees series, which takes place the last weekend of June, or the All-Star Game at Yankee Stadium, which takes place in the middle of July. On Sunday, as the Mets split a doubleheader at Shea Stadium with the Texas Rangers, Randolph said that he asked Minaya to pull the trigger, if that�s what Minaya had in mind, and not have Randolph travel all the way across the country to Anaheim. �I actually asked him. I said, �Omar, do this now. If you�re going to do this, do this now. I know you�ve got a lot of pressure on you, but if I�m not the guy to lead this team then don�t let me get on this plane.� I did say that to him.� �I just told Willie that I want to have closure by the end of this trip,� Minaya said Wednesday when asked to respond to Randolph�s assertion that he told Minaya he did not want to get on the plane if his dismissal was imminent. The trip the Mets are now on ends Sunday in Colorado, with the Mets then returning to Shea on Monday night to play Seattle. Minaya has also stated that he was not sure what he was going to do about Randolph when he went to sleep Sunday night and that he did not make up his mind until Monday... Asked if he thought his dismissal was entirely Minaya�s idea, as the general manager is contending, Randolph said: �I have my doubts. Let�s just leave it at that. I have my doubts.� At his Tuesday news conference in Anaheim, Minaya was asked if he thought Randolph had been treated shabbily by the Mets organization. He said he did not think that was the case. But asked if he thought �shabby� was too strong a word to characterize his treatment, Randolph chuckled, and said: �That�s not strong enough.� Wiliam Rhoden, NY Times Kong76 Jun 18 2008 06:58 PM CF, Latvia ... lol, Baltic Bomber humor never gets old. AG/DC Jun 18 2008 08:58 PM If you made up Wallace Matthews, I'd think he was too un-realistic a character. Vince Coleman Firecracker Jul 23 2008 08:52 PM Fred Wilpon takes the blame[/url:5bclim2i] for how Willie's firing went down. Or not. I kinda think he is really just pointing the finger at Omar. John Cougar Lunchbucket Dec 27 2008 08:25 PM Bump. I nominate this for the 2008 Craney Award. If you have 10 minutes read it top to bottom. I'll also put it up against any other medium's take on this incident for humor and insight and understanding. SteveJRogers Dec 27 2008 09:22 PM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":20ivi8ic]Bump. I nominate this for the 2008 Craney Award. If you have 10 minutes read it top to bottom. I'll also put it up against any other medium's take on this incident for humor and insight and understanding.[/quote:20ivi8ic] The thing is also that the whole incident is one "card" the anti-Wilpons or anti-Met people, whether fan or media member, will use forever to deride the Mets or the Wilpons as being classless; As in "Yeah, but we've never had a guy fly 3,000 miles only to fire him at night and fly all the way back." Like the argument over the 2004 ALCS vs 7 up with 17 to play (Which seems like this board actually is the only place where 7 up with 17 to play is NOT considered the greatest collapse in the history of sports period, but that is another topic), it is one more burden that Met fans have to put up with when arguing with other fans, or people that just don't know the whole story. metirish Dec 27 2008 09:27 PM The thing is that was a fun read over. A Boy Named Seo Dec 27 2008 10:03 PM Where the hell is Roblatt? TransMonk Dec 29 2008 03:27 PM I like how the embedded Newsday cover shows today's news. Edgy DC Dec 29 2008 06:25 PM Bam! ="seawolf17"] "Well, Joe, I'm just saying I'm available. In fact, I'm actually on a flight to Anaheim right now, and I brought my big box of manager stuff." Kong76 Dec 29 2008 06:57 PM Good bump, good nomination, and good illustration of 'bucket's sig line. John Cougar Lunchbucket Dec 29 2008 08:27 PM ="batmagadanleadoff":2u8um23g][ Once you get past the Midnight Massacre hype, firing Willie was one of the smartest things the Wilpons ever did. Here are my top four or five smartest things the Wilpons ever did, in no particular order: 1. Firing Willie Randolph 2. Firing Dallas Green 3. Firing Art Howe 4. Firing Jeff Torborg[/quote:2u8um23g] This response didn't get enough lolove.

[Centerfield]

Not you.

[soupcan]

Ouch.

[Centerfield]

Not me either.

[Guest AG/DC]

Well, sheesh. If you two don't count, who could he mean?

There's Rogers, sure, but he's not a Met fan.

[seawolf17]

No, CF counts. Remember Latvia?

[Guest themetfairy]

="seawolf17":35mwt1ys]No, CF counts. Remember Latvia?[/quote:35mwt1ys] Every time I hear about Latvia, I think of CF.

batmagadanleadoff Jun 18 2008 06:37 PM

Quotes, Comments, and Excerpts on The Midnight Massacre +1 ]Jose Reyes might just as well have spit in his new manager's face, right there on the field. Wallace Matthews, Newsday ]Less than two hours after the Mets defeated the Angels on Monday night, the announcement of Randolph's firing was released to the media -- timing that Paul Lo Duca, another former Met, called "unprofessional." Chico Harlan, Washington Post ]Wright credited Randolph for helping him blossom into one of the game's best young players, but appeared eager to move on with Manuel in charge. "I'll forever be grateful for Willie for giving me the opportunity to continue my development as a young player," Wright said. "He took this team to a different level while he was here. But that being said, I'm excited about what Jerry can bring to the table." Bart Hubbuch NY Post ]That is what constitutes being a good general manager around here, taking the bullets for the boss until the day the boss steps out of the shadows and puts one in you. Minaya knows this, having seen Steve Phillips pull the same routine eight years ago, squirming uncomfortably while painting Alex Rodriguez as a "24-and-1 guy" to cover up the truth: that his boss, Fred Wilpon, didn't want to spend the money. We know how well that worked out for Phillips and we know how it will eventually work out for Minaya.... After all, for Jeff Wilpon, the Mets' cuckoo COO, time was running out.... If he didn't nip this in the bud now, the Mets might make a run and he'd never get to do what he has been aching to do since October 2006. Jeff Wilpon would never get to can the manager. There really is no other explanation for the timing of Randolph's firing�. [A] source closely connected to the heated infighting over Randolph's future told me on Monday, "Jeff has been remorseless in his desire to get rid of Willie." That desire went back to the 2006 NLCS, after which Wilpon looked back at the series - Billy Wagner blowing a key save, Aaron Heilman giving up a game-winning home run in Game 7 and Beltran staring at a season-ending 3-2 curveball with the bases loaded - and determined that Willie Randolph was the problem. "[Jeff] is a reactive young man," the source said. "He thinks he is the baseball expert, and he decided that Willie was not the guy to lead this club...." He's also the source of most of the leaks to the media recently that the manager was on thin ice, which rendered somewhat laughable Minaya's contention that questions about Randolph's job status were becoming too much of a distraction for his continued employment.... Consequently, the Mets turned an easy firing into the front-office equivalent of blowing a seven-game lead in September. Under Jeff Wilpon's expert guidance, the Mets made the Yankees' divorce from Joe Torre look like a family retirement party. Now, they hand the whole mess over to Jerry Manuel, who seems like a nice enough guy but obviously the wrong choice. Still out there is Gary Carter, who seems like a perfect fit: a confirmed backstabber and schemer who campaigned publicly for Randolph's job last month while he was still the manager. How Jeff Wilpon missed out on a soul mate like that is almost as baffling as the firing of Willie Randolph. Wallace Matthews, Newsday ]NEW YORK (AP) � Willie Randolph figured the New York Mets would fire someone. He just didn't think general manager Omar Minaya would pick him. "I thought he was talking about whacking a couple of my coaches," the ex-manager told several New York-area newspapers Wednesday outside his home in Franklin Lakes, N.J. "That's why I was stunned. I didn't think it was going to happen," Randolph said. "At the time, I felt the way he was talking to me, that I was pretty secure for the time being...." "Not the way I would have handled it," he said. "Bottom line, it is what it is." Willie Randolph, Associated Press ]The five-hour long flight from Los Angeles to New York provides ample time for introspection. Especially if you�re Willie Randolph, now the former Mets manager. Dismissed from his job after the Mets beat the Los Angeles Angels on Monday in Anaheim, Randolph arrived back home in New Jersey late Tuesday, his head still swimming from being told by Mets General Manager Omar Minaya that he was no longer the manager of the Mets. In a telephone interview Tuesday night, Randolph said he remained stunned by the dismissal, which took place in Minaya�s hotel room. �I didn�t see this coming,� he said. �When I spoke to Omar the day before I knew there might be some changes, but I got the feeling I was safe.� Or at least, Randolph added, safe until the next Mets-Yankees series, which takes place the last weekend of June, or the All-Star Game at Yankee Stadium, which takes place in the middle of July. On Sunday, as the Mets split a doubleheader at Shea Stadium with the Texas Rangers, Randolph said that he asked Minaya to pull the trigger, if that�s what Minaya had in mind, and not have Randolph travel all the way across the country to Anaheim. �I actually asked him. I said, �Omar, do this now. If you�re going to do this, do this now. I know you�ve got a lot of pressure on you, but if I�m not the guy to lead this team then don�t let me get on this plane.� I did say that to him.� �I just told Willie that I want to have closure by the end of this trip,� Minaya said Wednesday when asked to respond to Randolph�s assertion that he told Minaya he did not want to get on the plane if his dismissal was imminent. The trip the Mets are now on ends Sunday in Colorado, with the Mets then returning to Shea on Monday night to play Seattle. Minaya has also stated that he was not sure what he was going to do about Randolph when he went to sleep Sunday night and that he did not make up his mind until Monday... Asked if he thought his dismissal was entirely Minaya�s idea, as the general manager is contending, Randolph said: �I have my doubts. Let�s just leave it at that. I have my doubts.� At his Tuesday news conference in Anaheim, Minaya was asked if he thought Randolph had been treated shabbily by the Mets organization. He said he did not think that was the case. But asked if he thought �shabby� was too strong a word to characterize his treatment, Randolph chuckled, and said: �That�s not strong enough.� Wiliam Rhoden, NY Times

Kong76 Jun 18 2008 06:58 PM

CF, Latvia ... lol, Baltic Bomber humor never gets old.

AG/DC Jun 18 2008 08:58 PM

If you made up Wallace Matthews, I'd think he was too un-realistic a character.

Vince Coleman Firecracker Jul 23 2008 08:52 PM

Fred Wilpon takes the blame[/url:5bclim2i] for how Willie's firing went down. Or not. I kinda think he is really just pointing the finger at Omar.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Dec 27 2008 08:25 PM

Bump. I nominate this for the 2008 Craney Award. If you have 10 minutes read it top to bottom. I'll also put it up against any other medium's take on this incident for humor and insight and understanding.

SteveJRogers Dec 27 2008 09:22 PM

="John Cougar Lunchbucket":20ivi8ic]Bump. I nominate this for the 2008 Craney Award. If you have 10 minutes read it top to bottom. I'll also put it up against any other medium's take on this incident for humor and insight and understanding.[/quote:20ivi8ic] The thing is also that the whole incident is one "card" the anti-Wilpons or anti-Met people, whether fan or media member, will use forever to deride the Mets or the Wilpons as being classless; As in "Yeah, but we've never had a guy fly 3,000 miles only to fire him at night and fly all the way back." Like the argument over the 2004 ALCS vs 7 up with 17 to play (Which seems like this board actually is the only place where 7 up with 17 to play is NOT considered the greatest collapse in the history of sports period, but that is another topic), it is one more burden that Met fans have to put up with when arguing with other fans, or people that just don't know the whole story. metirish Dec 27 2008 09:27 PM The thing is that was a fun read over. A Boy Named Seo Dec 27 2008 10:03 PM Where the hell is Roblatt? TransMonk Dec 29 2008 03:27 PM I like how the embedded Newsday cover shows today's news. Edgy DC Dec 29 2008 06:25 PM Bam! ="seawolf17"] "Well, Joe, I'm just saying I'm available. In fact, I'm actually on a flight to Anaheim right now, and I brought my big box of manager stuff." Kong76 Dec 29 2008 06:57 PM Good bump, good nomination, and good illustration of 'bucket's sig line. John Cougar Lunchbucket Dec 29 2008 08:27 PM ="batmagadanleadoff":2u8um23g][ Once you get past the Midnight Massacre hype, firing Willie was one of the smartest things the Wilpons ever did. Here are my top four or five smartest things the Wilpons ever did, in no particular order: 1. Firing Willie Randolph 2. Firing Dallas Green 3. Firing Art Howe 4. Firing Jeff Torborg[/quote:2u8um23g] This response didn't get enough lolove.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Quotes, Comments, and Excerpts on The Midnight Massacre +1

]Jose Reyes might just as well have spit in his new manager's face, right there on the field.

Wallace Matthews, Newsday

]Less than two hours after the Mets defeated the Angels on Monday night, the announcement of Randolph's firing was released to the media -- timing that Paul Lo Duca, another former Met, called "unprofessional."

Chico Harlan, Washington Post

]Wright credited Randolph for helping him blossom into one of the game's best young players, but appeared eager to move on with Manuel in charge. "I'll forever be grateful for Willie for giving me the opportunity to continue my development as a young player," Wright said. "He took this team to a different level while he was here. But that being said, I'm excited about what Jerry can bring to the table."

Bart Hubbuch NY Post

]That is what constitutes being a good general manager around here, taking the bullets for the boss until the day the boss steps out of the shadows and puts one in you. Minaya knows this, having seen Steve Phillips pull the same routine eight years ago, squirming uncomfortably while painting Alex Rodriguez as a "24-and-1 guy" to cover up the truth: that his boss, Fred Wilpon, didn't want to spend the money. We know how well that worked out for Phillips and we know how it will eventually work out for Minaya.... After all, for Jeff Wilpon, the Mets' cuckoo COO, time was running out.... If he didn't nip this in the bud now, the Mets might make a run and he'd never get to do what he has been aching to do since October 2006. Jeff Wilpon would never get to can the manager. There really is no other explanation for the timing of Randolph's firing�. [A] source closely connected to the heated infighting over Randolph's future told me on Monday, "Jeff has been remorseless in his desire to get rid of Willie." That desire went back to the 2006 NLCS, after which Wilpon looked back at the series - Billy Wagner blowing a key save, Aaron Heilman giving up a game-winning home run in Game 7 and Beltran staring at a season-ending 3-2 curveball with the bases loaded - and determined that Willie Randolph was the problem. "[Jeff] is a reactive young man," the source said. "He thinks he is the baseball expert, and he decided that Willie was not the guy to lead this club...." He's also the source of most of the leaks to the media recently that the manager was on thin ice, which rendered somewhat laughable Minaya's contention that questions about Randolph's job status were becoming too much of a distraction for his continued employment.... Consequently, the Mets turned an easy firing into the front-office equivalent of blowing a seven-game lead in September. Under Jeff Wilpon's expert guidance, the Mets made the Yankees' divorce from Joe Torre look like a family retirement party. Now, they hand the whole mess over to Jerry Manuel, who seems like a nice enough guy but obviously the wrong choice. Still out there is Gary Carter, who seems like a perfect fit: a confirmed backstabber and schemer who campaigned publicly for Randolph's job last month while he was still the manager. How Jeff Wilpon missed out on a soul mate like that is almost as baffling as the firing of Willie Randolph.

Wallace Matthews, Newsday

]NEW YORK (AP) � Willie Randolph figured the New York Mets would fire someone. He just didn't think general manager Omar Minaya would pick him. "I thought he was talking about whacking a couple of my coaches," the ex-manager told several New York-area newspapers Wednesday outside his home in Franklin Lakes, N.J. "That's why I was stunned. I didn't think it was going to happen," Randolph said. "At the time, I felt the way he was talking to me, that I was pretty secure for the time being...." "Not the way I would have handled it," he said. "Bottom line, it is what it is."

Willie Randolph, Associated Press

]The five-hour long flight from Los Angeles to New York provides ample time for introspection. Especially if you�re Willie Randolph, now the former Mets manager. Dismissed from his job after the Mets beat the Los Angeles Angels on Monday in Anaheim, Randolph arrived back home in New Jersey late Tuesday, his head still swimming from being told by Mets General Manager Omar Minaya that he was no longer the manager of the Mets. In a telephone interview Tuesday night, Randolph said he remained stunned by the dismissal, which took place in Minaya�s hotel room. �I didn�t see this coming,� he said. �When I spoke to Omar the day before I knew there might be some changes, but I got the feeling I was safe.� Or at least, Randolph added, safe until the next Mets-Yankees series, which takes place the last weekend of June, or the All-Star Game at Yankee Stadium, which takes place in the middle of July. On Sunday, as the Mets split a doubleheader at Shea Stadium with the Texas Rangers, Randolph said that he asked Minaya to pull the trigger, if that�s what Minaya had in mind, and not have Randolph travel all the way across the country to Anaheim. �I actually asked him. I said, �Omar, do this now. If you�re going to do this, do this now. I know you�ve got a lot of pressure on you, but if I�m not the guy to lead this team then don�t let me get on this plane.� I did say that to him.� �I just told Willie that I want to have closure by the end of this trip,� Minaya said Wednesday when asked to respond to Randolph�s assertion that he told Minaya he did not want to get on the plane if his dismissal was imminent. The trip the Mets are now on ends Sunday in Colorado, with the Mets then returning to Shea on Monday night to play Seattle. Minaya has also stated that he was not sure what he was going to do about Randolph when he went to sleep Sunday night and that he did not make up his mind until Monday... Asked if he thought his dismissal was entirely Minaya�s idea, as the general manager is contending, Randolph said: �I have my doubts. Let�s just leave it at that. I have my doubts.� At his Tuesday news conference in Anaheim, Minaya was asked if he thought Randolph had been treated shabbily by the Mets organization. He said he did not think that was the case. But asked if he thought �shabby� was too strong a word to characterize his treatment, Randolph chuckled, and said: �That�s not strong enough.�

Wiliam Rhoden, NY Times

[Guest Kong76]

CF, Latvia ... lol, Baltic Bomber humor never gets old.

[Guest AG/DC]

If you made up Wallace Matthews, I'd think he was too un-realistic a character.

[Guest Vince Coleman Firecracker]

Fred Wilpon takes the blame[/url:5bclim2i] for how Willie's firing went down. Or not. I kinda think he is really just pointing the finger at Omar.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Bump.

I nominate this for the 2008 Craney Award. If you have 10 minutes read it top to bottom. I'll also put it up against any other medium's take on this incident for humor and insight and understanding.

[stevejrogers]

="John Cougar Lunchbucket":20ivi8ic]Bump. I nominate this for the 2008 Craney Award. If you have 10 minutes read it top to bottom. I'll also put it up against any other medium's take on this incident for humor and insight and understanding.[/quote:20ivi8ic] The thing is also that the whole incident is one "card" the anti-Wilpons or anti-Met people, whether fan or media member, will use forever to deride the Mets or the Wilpons as being classless; As in "Yeah, but we've never had a guy fly 3,000 miles only to fire him at night and fly all the way back." Like the argument over the 2004 ALCS vs 7 up with 17 to play (Which seems like this board actually is the only place where 7 up with 17 to play is NOT considered the greatest collapse in the history of sports period, but that is another topic), it is one more burden that Met fans have to put up with when arguing with other fans, or people that just don't know the whole story.

metirish Dec 27 2008 09:27 PM

The thing is that was a fun read over.

A Boy Named Seo Dec 27 2008 10:03 PM

Where the hell is Roblatt?

TransMonk Dec 29 2008 03:27 PM

I like how the embedded Newsday cover shows today's news.

Edgy DC Dec 29 2008 06:25 PM

Bam! ="seawolf17"] "Well, Joe, I'm just saying I'm available. In fact, I'm actually on a flight to Anaheim right now, and I brought my big box of manager stuff."

Kong76 Dec 29 2008 06:57 PM

Good bump, good nomination, and good illustration of 'bucket's sig line.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Dec 29 2008 08:27 PM

="batmagadanleadoff":2u8um23g][ Once you get past the Midnight Massacre hype, firing Willie was one of the smartest things the Wilpons ever did. Here are my top four or five smartest things the Wilpons ever did, in no particular order: 1. Firing Willie Randolph 2. Firing Dallas Green 3. Firing Art Howe 4. Firing Jeff Torborg[/quote:2u8um23g] This response didn't get enough lolove.

[metirish]

The thing is that was a fun read over.

[A Boy Named Seo]

Where the hell is Roblatt?

[TransMonk]

I like how the embedded Newsday cover shows today's news.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Bam!

="seawolf17"] "Well, Joe, I'm just saying I'm available. In fact, I'm actually on a flight to Anaheim right now, and I brought my big box of manager stuff."

[Guest Kong76]

Good bump, good nomination, and good illustration of 'bucket's sig line.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

="batmagadanleadoff":2u8um23g][ Once you get past the Midnight Massacre hype, firing Willie was one of the smartest things the Wilpons ever did. Here are my top four or five smartest things the Wilpons ever did, in no particular order: 1. Firing Willie Randolph 2. Firing Dallas Green 3. Firing Art Howe 4. Firing Jeff Torborg[/quote:2u8um23g] This response didn't get enough lolove.