Urdaneta's Pee: Guilty

[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

See ya in 50 games.

[metirish]

or not.....

Seems like the Mets could do better job educating these guys,or something.

[Gwreck]

Source? Still looking for something definitive on this.

[metirish]

When did the Mets know about this,before he was sent down?

[Guest Edgy DC]

Yer up. Yer down. Urine. Yer out.

[Centerfield]

Geez imagine what his ERA would have been without dope.

[Guest Edgy DC]

I think the Mets would be magnanimous if they volunteered to retroactively forfeit any games that Urdaneta has been found to have pitched in.

[Centerfield]

Or at least replay them.

[Guest iramets]

A fish starts stinking at the head.

[nymr83]

i don't have a list, but its starting to seem like a disproportionate number of guys caught with 'Roids have been 1) Mets and 2) Pitchers.

[soupcan]

iramets wrote: A fish starts stinking at the head.

If Lino Urdaneta was the 'head' of the fish we call the Mets, well then I'd be worried. As it stands, I ain't.

="Nymr83"]i don't have a list, but its starting to seem like a disproportionate number of guys caught with 'Roids have been 1) Mets and 2) Pitchers.

Supposedly the numbers from the Mets are about the average league-wide.

[Frayed Knot]

The last list I saw showing the number of catch-ees by organization (including both major & minor leaguers) had the Mets near the top but not quite at it, IIRC.

[Guest iramets]

According to Wally Matthews, whom we all know to be a filthy lying motherfucker, the Mets' organization is WAY high on the list of steroids-tolerant organizations.

[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

Seriously dumb quote by Jeffy, kudos to Matthews (and Filip Bondy) for not interpreting it quite as literally stupid as it looks in print.

That said, steroids is an epidemic. I don't think there's any team that's more guilty than the next, necessarily. It would be interesting to know more about how and why these guys keep getting nailed.

[MFS62]

Oops - wrong thread.

Later

[Benjamin Grimm]

="Wallace Matthews"]The Mets are far from the squeaky-clean organization their owner and his kid would have you believe. And who knows how much further the story will go once the music starts playing for Kirk Radom- ski, former Shea laundry boy turned federal drug informant? In fact, listening to Kid Wilpon, it sure sounded as if the Mets' concern was not so much eliminating steroids as it was eliminating positive steroids tests. "We like to be a stand-up organization and keep a real good eye on it to try to educate our kids," he said. "I have a call later with the nutritionist to see, are we doing anything wrong, can we do anything better to try to help these young men so they don't test positive.

Ouch.


It really is hard to put a positive spin on resigning Mota to a two-year deal after he had tested positive, and structuring the contract so that he wouldn't be pinched financially by his suspension.

Bad move, and it's going to be made worse by bad timing, as Mota's return is almost simultaneous with the start of Urdaneta's suspension.

[metirish]

I might find it hard to say good things about signing Mota after the steroids but in all honesty I'll not care if when he comes back he pitches like he did last year after coming over.

[duan]

what's more interesting to is that the a large number of positive tests have been by what could be best described as 'marginal relievers'.

two theories here
1. Guys with most to make/least to lose from juicing are guys who go from being 26th men to 25th.
2. Relievers are the people who need help (usage patterns & recovery time probs) the most.

[Guest Edgy DC]

When was the last positive cocaine test?

It's like steroids has cured baseball of the scourge of coke.

[seawolf17]

It seems like a lot of the positive tests have been Latino players, too. Is there a list somewhere?

[metirish]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Major_League_Baseball_players_suspended_for_steroids

List needs to be updated I think.

[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

seawolf17 wrote: It seems like a lot of the positive tests have been Latino players, too.

Sterooids are easy to get in places like Mexico (whjere Urdaneta was previously employed) and in the DR, where I'm not eeven sure they're illegal.

Also, I'd guess many Latin scrubeenos have a lot to lose just by failing to be a Latin scrubeeno.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Scott Schoeneweis fails to make the Mets, he's got a history degree from Duke. Waner Mateo may be cutting sugar cane back in the DR.