A.P. Discuss SNY Thread

[stevejrogers]

To some people its just as interesting of a facet of team history as the day and day out player movement and who has played the most games at what position.

Is it an non-story? Well yeah, if Tom and Howie are 100% fine and return for 2007 then yes its a complete one-day news story.

Its still a fun little bit of trivita (sp) in the anals of Met broadcast history

[Guest Edgy DC]

SteveJRogers wrote: Cohen can be seen as "hogging" mike time in the broadcast booth.

You're in the passive voice here. Try, "Manager's decision and progative to use his staff the way he saw fit." That works pretty well for me.

Let it go.

SteveJRogers wrote: If you want to believe it wasn't his call or not, its still him getting "face time" in the expense of those who have been doing it all year.

I didn't say I believed either way.

Such expense. Please. Nobody is "getting in the way" of anything.

[Guest Edgy DC]

"anals"?

[stevejrogers]

Edgy DC wrote: ="SteveJRogers"}Cohen can be seen as "hogging" mike time in the broadcast booth. You're in the passive voice here. Try, "Manager's decision and progative to use his staff the way he saw fit." That works pretty well for me. Let it go.

And I'm the one who fancies myself as a wannabe sports writer. Geez...

[stevejrogers]

Double Post...

[stevejrogers]

Edgy DC wrote: "anals"?

Again, what did I want to be someday?

Whats the word I'm looking for?

[Guest Edgy DC]

"Annals"?

[stevejrogers]

Edgy DC wrote: "Annals"?

Bingo.

As to the getting in the way, would you feel the same if Russo and Francessa decided, based on their job in June, did an inning of a postseason game? And don't give me the "Cohen did every game, from the TV side" point because it really is the same situation here.

[Guest OlerudOwned]

I don't think I'd want to be stuck in the anals of baseball history.

[Guest ScarletKnight41]

SteveJRogers wrote: ="Edgy DC"]"Annals"? Bingo. As to the getting in the way, would you feel the same if Russo and Francessa decided, based on their job in June, did an inning of a postseason game? And don't give me the "Cohen did every game, from the TV side" point because it really is the same situation here.

You really can't think that this is a persuasive analogy, can you?

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

SteveJRogers wrote: ="Yancy Street Gang"]Because we're viewers. Not because we're broadcasting wonks. Okay fine, so why is there even a CPF or an UMDB then?

Huh?

Umm, to discuss whether or not Gary Cohen is an egomaniac?

[soupcan]

Megalomaniac I think would be more apropos, no?

[Guest Edgy DC]

SteveJRogers wrote: ="Edgy DC"]"Annals"? Bingo. As to the getting in the way, would you feel the same if Russo and Francessa decided, based on their job in June, did an inning of a postseason game? And don't give me the "Cohen did every game, from the TV side" point because it really is the same situation here.

Just how ridiculous are you trying to be?

[metsmarathon]

aren't the fan and sny boradcast partners anyways?

why does there need to be any more drama surrounding this than two broadcasting partners pooling their resources in such a fashion as may bring additional enjoyment to die-hard mets fans?

[metsmarathon]

aren't the fan and sny boradcast partners anyways?

why does there need to be any more drama surrounding this than two broadcasting partners pooling their resources in such a fashion as may bring additional enjoyment to die-hard mets fans?

[Guest cleonjones11]

SteveJRogers wrote: ="Yancy Street Gang"]Because we're viewers. Not because we're broadcasting wonks. Okay fine, so why is there even a CPF or an UMDB then?

This is asinine even by my standards

[Guest OlerudOwned]

cleonjones11 wrote: ="SteveJRogers"] ="Yancy Street Gang"]Because we're viewers. Not because we're broadcasting wonks. Okay fine, so why is there even a CPF or an UMDB then? This is asinine even by my standards

Hoo-boy

[Guest Spacemans Bong]

Gary Cohen is the voice of the Mets. Period. If Tom McCarthy doesn't like that, he's welcome to go elsewhere. To complain over this would be some idiot in LA complaining that Charley Steiner is getting short-shrifted by Vin Scully taking over the radio duties in the postseason.

Besides, if anything Cohen is giving up money by doing this. He did the Braves-Astros series for ESPN Radio last year, and would almost certainly have been asked to return for another series.

[stevejrogers]

Spacemans Bong wrote: Besides, if anything Cohen is giving up money by doing this. He did the Braves-Astros series for ESPN Radio last year, and would almost certainly have been asked to return for another series.

He wouldn't, he's working all Met games for SNY's pre and post game coverage

[Centerfield]

Steve is the Lastings Milledge of the CPF clubhouse.

[Elster88]

Didn't feel like starting a new thread. David Wright on the FAN at 4 today.

[G-Fafif]

To an earlier point, Ralph, Rusty and Fran each took three innings in Game 2 of the '86 NLCS when Murph took ill.

To the overriding point, Gary Cohen is the acknowledged flagship voice of the New York Mets. Whether he's not somebody's particular cup of tea is a different matter; that's determined by one's subjective tastes. What cannot be disputed is Gary Cohen's voice is clearly identified as the voice of Mets baseball as of this moment -- not Howie's, not Tom's, not Keith's, not Ron's, not Eddie C.'s He is, in substance if not quite in length of tenture, the Met equivalent of Vin Scully. His deployment in the FAN booth, whether it was through his selfish cunning or the visionary planning of management is perfectly valid.

I'm a Gary Cohen fan. I listened to those first-round ESPN Radiocasts of Octobers past just to hear him. If I haven't already, I will flip on the radio Wednesday and Thursday and Saturday in the fifth inning and keep it on through the sixth. If there are other games involving the Mets in this series or other series (let's hope), I will do the same. I know from discussions with others that I'm not the only person who will do this. Granted, the attraction is Mets playoff baseball, but having the Voice of the Mets calling the Mets in the playoffs is clearly a value-added element.

The intrigue and backstabbing and gossipy whatnot of the broadcasting industry is entertaining to a limited extent. After a fashion, though, it's about what's put on the air. In this case, the radio-listening Mets fan benefits (I believe) by having Gary Cohen calling parts of the game. It does not put out Howie and Tom to a great extent. That's not really my concern, but it's a legitimate internal one. In other words, they get to do seven regulation innings without Cohen and any extra frames. They'll be fine.

Those who would attack Cohen for his upcoming cameos -- whether they are trying to get a rise out of a radio audience, stir up a newspaper readership or just demonstrating their lack of understanding about what it is to be a Mets fan on an Internet board -- don't matter. They, I sense, aren't going to go out of their way to listen to these games on WFAN. They are not likely to have their hopes dashed or routines disrupted because Gary Cohen's voice joins those of Tom McCarthy and Howie Rose. If there's a single person out there who is not related to those two who will be disappointed that they are deprived of an extra inning of them, well, he or she will be one more person than I imagine exists.

[metirish]

missing your Mets fix?....Postseason live on SNY...Wright,Darling,Cohen and Coleman on the show.

[Gwreck]

From the Postseason Live:

Mary Noble: Mets in 5
Ed Coleman: Mets in 4
Ron Darling: Mets in 4
Gary Cohen: Mets in 3

[metirish]

I swear an old GF of mine was the one over the shoulder of Matt Yallof all during the show.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Freaking Matt Yallof steals all the girls.

[metirish]

One other thing,Marty Noble is one big man......

[MFS62]

Yesterday I was at a client site for a 3:45PM meeting. It had been scheduled far in advance, and I couldn't get it changed. Needless to say, I had no idea what had happened in the game. About 6PM there was a break in the meeting, so I hopped on one of their PCs to check the IGT and/or Yahoo Sports to get a recap. Their friggin' Internet connection was down!!

The meeting ended about 6:45 and I jumped in my car to listen to the game if it was still on. I heard the last inning and a half. I couldn't get WFAN, but was able to get ESPN radio. I recognized the voice of the color guy - Dave Campbell, but didn't get the name of the play-by-play guy. He was awful.

For most of the hitters, he didn't say what they had done in their previous at bats. For some, he gave partial info. For example, when Delgado came to bat, he said he was 4 for 4 up to that point, but said nothing about homers, RBIs or runs scored. At the end of the game, there was no scoring recap.

As I got closer to home, I was able to get WFAN. The game ended around 7:10. WFAN went to their post-game show. I listened from about 7:15 until I got home around 7:50. They never gave the sound bytes of the scoring plays like they usually do, even though they announced that they were "upcoming".

It wasn't until I turned on SNY that I was able to see the highlights of the game.

Thank you, SNY.

Later

[Guest cooby]

Holy smokes, that sounds like one of my bad dreams

[Guest martin]

i thought SNY had a terrific first season. my favorite moment was mid-season, when one of of those goofy inflated mascots was waddling around, a mr met, the camera is on him as we come back from commercial.

Cohen deadpans "that guy is pumped up"

hernandez ignores him and start babbling about something. cohen moves along, doesnt even chuckle, is perfectly content to have nobody in the booth appreciate his wonderful joke. i love that guy.