A.P. Discuss SNY Thread

[metirish]

Well yeah of course they did....I like Cotter,infact I think SNY did a great job this season,congrats to them and please leave keith alone.

[Centerfield]

Frayed Knot wrote: Discussions during both Sunday's game and tonight's mentioned Darling's wife being in/returning from Seattle for the Giants/SHawks game. Is this current version of Mrs. D some sort of on-air personality or just a faceless cog in the machine? What a stupid term: "On-air personality"

Ron Darling is always talking about his boys...I'm guessing these must be from his prior marriage to that model, Toni. And I guess that the boys live with Ron and the current Mrs. Darling, whoever that may be.

[HahnSolo]

Ron Darling, hopeless romantic...

http://insideweddings.com/real-weddings/9/thats-amore/

[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

xcellent find

[HahnSolo]

Who, me or Ron?

[MFS62]

http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/mets/ny-spmets0928-sub,0,4551010.story?coll=ny-sports-headlines

Good News.

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[metirish]

Very cool news.

[MFS62]

Has anyone read which teams of announcers we'll get on the nationally televised games?

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[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

] Cohen back on radio for Mets playoffs By Neil Best Newsday Staff Writer September 28, 2006, 1:00 PM EDT Gary Cohen, SportsNet New York's play-by-play man for Mets games, will work two innings in each of the team's playoff games in the WFAN booth with Howie Rose and Tom McCarthy. Cohen, a Mets radio announcer from 1989-2005, cannot call the games on television because during the playoffs all games appear on national TV. So for months Cohen has assumed he would be limited to pre- and post-game coverage on SNY. That changed when WFAN invited him to join the radio team in addition to his SNY work. SNY gave its blessing, as did Rose and McCarthy. Cohen will do color commentary alongside Rose in fifth and play-by-play alongside McCarthy in sixth. "I couldn't be more thrilled," Cohen Thursday morning. He thanked Rose and McCarthy for "incredible graciousness" in welcoming him back into the radio booth.

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

I suspect that they won't announce the announcers until the matchups are established.

My guess is that Tim McCarver and Joe Buck will be doing the Yankees games. Or they may jump around and do whatever game is on prime time.



That's nice about Gary Cohen. I won't be hearing any of it though (unless my cable goes out or something) as I'll be glued to the television throughout the Mets playoff run, however long it lasts.

[MFS62]

Uh, Yancy.
That was what I linked to a few posts above.

Although I have to admit, it looks a heckuva' lot better when you don't have to look at the Yankee promo on that page.

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[Gwreck]

Yancy Street Gang wrote: That's nice about Gary Cohen. I won't be hearing any of it though (unless my cable goes out or something) as I'll be glued to the television throughout the Mets playoff run, however long it lasts.

Why not use the radio and mute the TV?

[Guest ScarletKnight41]

MFS62 wrote: Uh, Yancy. That was what I linked to a few posts above. Later

Yes, but Yancy made it convenient for us to know what the article was about without having to click the link. When people are pressed for time, it's not convenient to click a link if there's no indication what the article is about.

BTW, Thanks Yancy.

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

MFS62 wrote: Uh, Yancy. That was what I linked to a few posts above.

I know. That's how I found it.

[Centerfield]

WFAN Boss: Hey Tom, how you doing? Getting geared up for the post-season?

Tom McCarthy: Absolutely boss. I can�t wait.

WB: Good good. You don�t know how lucky you are. You know, when Gary Cohen was here, it was 13 years before he got to call a post-season game and here you are getting a chance in your first.

TM: Oh yeah definitely, I feel lucky for sure.

WB: You know, it sure is a shame Gary won�t get to call the post-season games this year. What a waste it is to limit him to post-game.

TM: Yeah, it sure is a shame.

WB: I mean, he�s basically been the voice of the Mets over the last 20 years or so. It�s just not fair.

TM: (getting uncomfortable)

WB: I would even say some fans will feel like they�re missing something because they won�t be able to hear Gary�s legendary calls.

TM: I�m sure Gary will be excited about his TV role.

WB: Oh, absolutely. Besides, we�ve got you now. (slaps Tom on the back) I�m sure with time the fans will grow to love you too.

TM: (smiling awkwardly) Thanks boss. That means a lot...

WB: It�s just a shame is all.

-silence-

TM: You know, I guess if Gary were interested, it wouldn�t be so bad if he stopped by the booth for a visit or two...

WB: Oh yeah? That�s a great idea Tom! I�ll tell you what, you take a break during the middle innings and I�ll have Gary come in and do play-by-play!

TM: Well, I didn�t really mean...I just...I mean I could still do the play-by-

WB: Boy the fans are gonna love this. You really are a team player Tom!

TM: Maybe we could share the play-by-play, like I could take a pitch and then Gary could....

WB: And then if it goes well, we can talk to Gary about increasing his role. That was a great idea Tom. Boy, October is looking better already!

TM: Um, ok. Great.

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

I was thinking that they ought to shove Tom out of the booth in favor of Gary after the 8th inning. That way if there are any memorable game-ending plays, Gary and/or Howie would get to do the call.

I have nothing against Tom McCarthy, by the way. I don't even know what he sounds like. For probably the first time since 1971 I've gone the whole year without listening to Mets baseball on the radio.

[Centerfield]

Yancy Street Gang wrote: I was thinking that they ought to shove Tom out of the booth in favor of Gary after the 8th inning. That way if there are any memorable game-ending plays, Gary and/or Howie would get to do the call.

Yup. ©

[HahnSolo]

I like Gary and all, but my postseason would not have been marred if I don't hear him calling a Mets game.

[soupcan]

M & MD are making quite the fuss over this, saying that Cohen initiated this and that it is patently unfair to both McCarthy and Rose (although it is McCarthy whose air time will be pruned back) and is 'just wrong'.

Not sure I see what the big deal is but then again sports broadcasting is not my field. Maybe Gary oversteps by trying to stick his nose back into the radio booth? Does McCarthy feel slighted in this situation?

I don't know. I must assume they have some insight into this situation that I don't since they work for FAN and know all the players in this drama.

They also alluded to a frosty relationship that Cohen had with Bob Murphy that I'd always suspected but never had any evidence of.

[Guest Edgy DC]

How do they know that Cohen initiated this?

[metirish]

] They also alluded to a frosty relationship that Cohen had with Bob Murphy that I'd always suspected but never had any evidence of.

I've heard that one several times but never any reasons given,Gary has nothing but good things to say about Bob when he talks about him on air.

[soupcan]

Edgy DC wrote: How do they know that Cohen initiated this?

They say 'they know'.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Oh, well, OK.

[Guest MadDog]

Ah, COME ON, Edge! We don't have to justify anything! I'm a world-class sports talk show host! I can say whatever I want, because Dr. Joseph Dellorusso will still pay us money to run his commercials! I just know these things because I know everything!

And while I'm at it, Pedro Martinez is a candyass!

[soupcan]

Well let's assume for the sake of argument that they do know.

They do work there, they are probably privy to conversations, they know the Mets guys, they know the station manager.

If it were true and Cohen did initiate, is he wrong? Is WFAN wrong for allowing it?

Should McCarthy feel put out?

I guess I like to think that it doesn't matter who does what, the more the merrier and what not.

Maybe there is a great deal of cache involved in calling postseason games on the radio, what do I know?

[HahnSolo]

metirish wrote: ] They also alluded to a frosty relationship that Cohen had with Bob Murphy that I'd always suspected but never had any evidence of. I've heard that one several times but never any reasons given,Gary has nothing but good things to say about Bob when he talks about him on air.

I've heard that Cohen took issue with Murph's smoking in the booth. Beyond that, I don't know how frosty their relationship was.

[metsmarathon]

so... the most he's taking from anybody is an inning in the middle fo the game, and i'm supposed to believe this is some huge unfair controversy about who initiated it and why, while just about every mets fan who would listen to the game on the radio is happier as a result?

yawn.

[metirish]

I've not listened to an inning on the radio all season so I don't know why I care about this,fo all we know McCarthy and Cohen could be best friends.

[G-Fafif]

M&MD are world-class A-holes.

As usual, at their remove from their audience, they miss the point. This isn't about slapping Tom McCarthy or even gratifying Gary Cohen. It's about serving the Mets fan with the best possible broadcast. They have someone who is considered (rightly, I believe) among the best announcers in the business, someone associated with the team like no other current voice, and he is available. Two innings of Gary Cohen is better than no innings of Gary Cohen. Nine (or however many it takes) innings of Gary Cohen would be ideal, but that wish is prohibitive given that Tom McCarthy does have a job.

I've truly stopped listening to M&MD after years of insisting I would. The last time I tuned in for anything but the Willie Randolph report was the day after we clinched when they spit all over it from the top of the show. It may be their cute way of tweaking, but it's no longer fresh and it's not remotely funny. One night they ran over when I turned on the FAN for "Mets Extra" and I was subject to a serious discussion that Carlos Beltran is not a good defensive centerfielder. It was only 30 seconds or so but it convinced me yet again for good that they are the biggest frauds in the media.

There isn't a sinkhole large enough to swallow them, their egos and their immense lack of knowledge and talent. (Insert your own Francesa girth joke here if you like.)

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

If Mike and the Mad Dog think this is an important issue, then I'm sure it is.

They're a lot smarter than we are, you know.