Guest Bret Sabermetric Guests Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 Probably a transliteration issue. Far as I know, it just means "troublemaker." I used to get told not to be a plutgemacher all the time, for some reason.
Guest d'Kong76 Guests Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 Childhood Yiddish slang would make for a good rainy day thread. I wasraised Catholic, but routinely heard a dozen words at home that I still usetoday. I think there's a house minimum of a six-pack of Rheingold on all CPF bets.
MFS62 Old-Timey Member Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 My boss once asked me if I spoke any foreign languages.I told him that since I was raised in New York, I probably knew some words in over 20 different langiuages (OK, hyperbole). The bad news was, the words that I know would probably get me tossed out of those countries.Later
Vic Sage Old-Timey Member Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 a pitching rotation on the precipice of disaster;an offense with holes at 2b and RF, health questions at 1b and LF, and a mystery man in cf;a bullpen with an aging, big $ closer with a sore finger, and a setup guy who was a failed closer from Baltimore, who'll get way too many chances to blow way too many games;a small ball manager with no balls at all;a gm with an itchy trigger finger who hasn't demonstrated any particular ability to assess young talent, anda rich owner in the biggest media market in the world who requires strict adherence to a budget (eg, see Cameron and Benson trades), thus hamstringing efforts to fix the team in midstream.BUT DON'T WORRY... BE HAPPY! BIESBOL IZ BAKK!! ... almost...
Theoldmole Old-Timey Member Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 MF -- just read "worrisome things." Great.
MFS62 Old-Timey Member Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 Thanks, you were my inspiration.Later
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 coupla quibbles:and a setup guy who was a failed closer from Baltimore, who'll get way too many chances to blow way too many games;Even if Julio suxx I don't think he's anything more than the 4th option at this point - or 3rd set-up man if you will. Sanchez and Heilman are more likely to be the immediate lead-ins to Wagner so it's not like a call to JJ is going to result in constant 8th inning meltdowns w/o other options. Either way, it beats the hell out of having Mike DeJean as the #1 option going into last year.a rich owner in the biggest media market in the world who requires strict adherence to a budget (eg, see Cameron and Benson trades), thus hamstringing efforts to fix the team in midstream. I don't think the owners are married to a specific budget number that they won't cross; it's more like they want to shed what is considered excess at the beginning specifically so they can add later on.Of course that's not always a good thing.
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 a gm with an itchy trigger finger who hasn't demonstrated any particular ability to assess young talentIs this referring to the draft, trades, promotions, or what?
smg58 Old-Timey Member Posted May 2, 2006 Posted May 2, 2006 On one hand, Nady probably isn't this good, and there's only one direction for Sanchez' ERA to go. On the other hand, Floyd will play better. And the Mets might not have to be THIS good to win the NL East this year. The Nationals and the Marlins are as bad as they look, and the Phillies continue to be overrated. The Braves will make a run at some point, but we've already built up a good lead.My big worry is an injury to the wrong person (i.e. Pedro), but otherwise we have nothing to complain about right now.
Guest Rotblatt Guests Posted May 2, 2006 Posted May 2, 2006 Like WP, I worry that our hot April is the start of a cruel joke and that the punchline won't come until mid-September.
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted June 11, 2006 Posted June 11, 2006 Mole sounds worried, so he may need this thread.
Elster88 Old-Timey Member Posted June 11, 2006 Posted June 11, 2006 More like he wants to be worried because he's used to it. Maybe this thread will scare him and help him feel more natural.
TransMonk Old-Timey Member Posted June 28, 2006 Posted June 28, 2006 Just need to get this off my chest...no panic, but worried.1. We are now 5-8 vs. other division/wildcard leaders...and we don't even have to play the best 2 teams in Chicago and Detroit. Winning 100 games won't matter if we can't hang with the big boys.2. Pedro has looked very beatable over the past few starts. How hurt is he? The SP as is will not be able to pick up the slack.3. Milledge. His gaffes were "cute" when we were winning...but not when we lose. He has shown me no signs of being anything more than average in his month of regular playing time in the bigs...he has a lot of potential, but not necessarily "untouchable" to me anymore.OK...I feel better now.
Guest d'Kong76 Guests Posted June 28, 2006 Posted June 28, 2006 I was about to post: This team is due for a collapse, but saw this was bumped ...... the starting pitching sucks, we ain't got a second baseman, freakin'thumb boy is waving at trophies and posting about post season lineups,papers and tv pundits are declaring the Mets are tops, Floyd has been hurt forever but it took forever to DL him -- woohoo -- he's going to ConeyIsland tomorrow, Milledge - eh, I'll stop at that.The division sucks, the Mets have been playing over their heads and themedia bought into it and I wouldn't be shocked if they lose tomorrow andand get embarrased by the Yanks over the weekend - who barely haveanyone left in the starting lineup. Yuck.
stevejrogers Old-Timey Member Posted June 28, 2006 Posted June 28, 2006 KC wrote:I was about to post: This team is due for a collapse, but saw this was bumped ...... the starting pitching sucks, we ain't got a second baseman, freakin'thumb boy is waving at trophies and posting about post season lineups,papers and tv pundits are declaring the Mets are tops, Floyd has been hurt forever but it took forever to DL him -- woohoo -- he's going to ConeyIsland tomorrow, Milledge - eh, I'll stop at that.The division sucks, the Mets have been playing over their heads and themedia bought into it and I wouldn't be shocked if they lose tomorrow andand get embarrased by the Yanks over the weekend - who barely haveanyone left in the starting lineup. Yuck.Freaking thumb boy? You're saying a 29 year old guy pointing at a 20 year old trophy is bringing us bad karma?True if any or more of the other NL Least teams were in the 5-9 game out range and over .500 I'd be deeply concerned, but I'd chalk this up to a mid-season speed bump rather than the Mets falling back to earth (see 05 Orioles and Nationals) Yeah thats probably because of the lack of depth in our division.I trust Omar and staff will pull the trigger on moves, hell I even SAID as much in that postseason roster thread. There should be a professional 2Bman and some SP depth, and it better come A freaking SAP.But we have enough of a lead where we can start experimenting with Pelfrey, ectNow, the Milledge touchable thing is a very tricky topic. You'll hear from fans both on the Internet Met Community, and the callers on radio shows act like complete hypocrites citing Jose Reyes (as someone often rumored and often used as a IMC and caller "chip" in a hypothetical trade to get a big name star to Shea) and Scott Kazmir (as the ultimate "one that got away, despite being used as a chip in the aforementioned hypotheical trades) as to why we shouldn't trade Milledge, even if it nets a Zito or a Willis.Is this a dire situation? No. Talk to me after the deadline about dire straights if the roster is relativly the same, save for a prospect or two filling holes in the rotation, then I'll press the panic button and start threads declaring whoever is in 2nd as the 2006 NL East Champions!
Zvon Old-Timey Member Posted June 28, 2006 Posted June 28, 2006 What?Us worry?Im not gonna sweat a mid season lull as long as they pick it up down the stretch.And I have no doubt that this team will.Afew timely moves by Omar to shore up some deficiencies would be nice.Mets are lookin at Julio Lugo for 2nd base, but I personally feel pitching is more important. Valentin has filled in second very well, thank you.
Willets Point Old-Timey Member Posted June 28, 2006 Posted June 28, 2006 Glavine is pitching tomorrow. Despite being Mr. Schaefer Six here, he's been lucky lately winning while not pitching all to well. It could all come crashing down tomorrow and the Mets will be swept at Fenway.
Guest mlbaseballtalk Guests Posted June 28, 2006 Posted June 28, 2006 Willets Point wrote:Glavine is pitching tomorrow. Despite being Mr. Schaefer Six here, he's been lucky lately. It could all come crashing down tomorrow.True. Right now I'm still not worried, even if we do drop all three this weekend. Its still the Red Sox and Yankees. One of those teams is still making the postseason and quite possibly the World Series itself. Probably won't get the Wild Card (then again, look what happened to the O's and Nats last year because they fell apart with teams just waiting to swoop in and claim the throne) I'd be more concerned dropping games next week as that would tie into dropping 2 out of 3 to the Orioles (Benson or no Benson we should not be doing that) so the Pirates and Fish at home SHOULD be just what the doctor ordered before the All Star Break
smg58 Old-Timey Member Posted June 29, 2006 Posted June 29, 2006 I'm worried that whoever wins in the NL will get swept again in the Series. The AL is smacking down the NL across the board, and it's certainly not just the Mets. I do think the Mets at least need another pitcher for when they get to the playoffs -- anybody worried about the playoffs not happening should look at how the rest of the division has been doing -- but Valentin has earned at least another month at second. I still think patience with Milledge will be heavily rewarded, but he goes down when Floyd is ready, which will hopefully be this weekend. As for which pitcher to look at, I don't know right now. I'm not sure why Barry Zito's name keeps popping up in rumors when the A's are in first place. He's not going anywhere.
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted June 29, 2006 Posted June 29, 2006 I worry, and I worry that I will constantly worry, that the last good start from Martinez or Glavine will be the last good start from Martinez or Glavine.They'll have to hit their way out of this.
metirish Old-Timey Member Posted June 29, 2006 Posted June 29, 2006 In Omar I trust, getting smacked around by the AL might be a blessing in that Omar goes out and makes a trade for another bat and a starting pitcher, Soriano and Zito would fit the bill thank you.....this is the year to go and win it all....go Omar.
Guest d'Kong76 Guests Posted June 29, 2006 Posted June 29, 2006 SR: >>>You're saying a 29 year old guy pointing at a 20 year old trophy is bringing us bad karma?<<<No, I'm saying that posting post season rosters in mid-June while pointingat the trophy is annoying. And next time you want to talk about me, PM me and not one of the otheradmins. 29 year olds don't go whining to Uncle Edgy.
Willets Point Old-Timey Member Posted June 29, 2006 Posted June 29, 2006 metirish wrote:In Omar I trust, getting smacked around by the AL might be a blessing in that Omar goes out and makes a trade for another bat and a starting pitcher, Soriano and Zito would fit the bill thank you.....this is the year to go and win it all....go Omar.All this losing is wonderful?
soupcan Old-Timey Member Posted June 29, 2006 Posted June 29, 2006 Don't start calling the suicide hotline just yet.Its simply two bad losses, that's all.Remember when Wagner blew the Yankee game? Remember how horrible you felt? Coming into Boston that game and those feelings weren't even on your radar were they?Think about it - these losses to Boston were b-a-d, bad but if we played tighter defense in both games and Wright got one well-placed hit they would not have been blowouts and we very well could've taken one of them. If we had done that and tonight was the rubbah game you wouldn't be all doom and gloom now would ya? What if Floyd was in left instead of Milledge? Reyes didn't do anything. Two hits from him in this series and that could have also made the difference. Don't let the final score fool you, these games very easily could've been more competitive. We all know that what we've seen in Boston was not the same Mets team we've been watching this year. Hand it to the Sox also - they are white-freakin'-hot right now and have been almost unbeatable at Fenway this year anyway.We took 2 of 3 from the Yanks and 2 of 3 from Toronto. We lost 2 of 3 at St. Louis but that was when our rotation was worse than it is now with Lima and Gonzalez. Even so in that series a healthy Pujols was held hitless.You're never as good as look when you are winning and you are never as bad as you look when you are losing.In short - Chill-ax.
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted June 29, 2006 Posted June 29, 2006 I'm not worrying about anything right now.I'm confident that the Mets will get to the playoffs. I'm not that confident that the Mets will go deep into the playoffs, but that's a worry for October.If they're on one of their hot streaks as they enter the playoffs, they'll find the magic to get to the World Series. And if they're on a cold spell, they'll make an early exit, something the Mets have never done in the postseason. But like I said, that's a worry for October. If anything's ailing Pedro right now, I'd give him a good seven-day (or more) rest over the All-Star break.I don't have blind trust in Omar. He's still the guy who traded Benson for Julio a few days after trading Seo. If he gets tradelust, he's as likely to make a bad one as a good one.
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