Standings 2025

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I'm not very good at tables. So I'm probably the wrong guy to start this thread. So I'll just focus on the interesting stuff. We're almost at the 25% mark of the season already.



Mets start the day 24-14. Two game lead (1 in the loss column) over the Phillies (21-15).



The Braves started out 0-7 but have gone 17-12 since (17-19 overall). You figure once they get healthier, they'll put themselves in the mix.



In the NL, there are at least 6 contenders (NYM, PHI, CHC, LAD, SDP, SFG). 7 if you count the Braves, and 8 if you think Arizona will eventually make a run. I guess it's possible that a team like the Reds get hot too. Barring a surprise NL Central team making a run, you figure the Cubs take the division. That leaves 2 NL East Teams, and 2 or 3 NL West Teams fighting for 3 WC spots. The surprise team so far are the Giants, but at 24-14 and a +39 run differential, they definitely look for real.



The White Sox are playing .270 ball, which is blistering hot for them. The Rockies are this year's version of the White Sox. 6-29, good for a .171 win percentage.

[Benjamin Grimm]

If the Mets go .500 the rest of the way, they'll win 86 games, which may be enough for a playoff spot, but probably won't. It would have been enough, to at least qualify for a tiebreaker, in the AL in 2022 and 2024, and the NL in 2023.



But of course, we hope (and expect) them to be better than a .500 team the rest of the way. If they play ten games above over .500 over the the last 124 games (which should be easier than doing it over 38 games, as they've already done) the Mets will win 91 games, which would give them a much better chance.

[Frayed Knot]

After 38 games last season they were 18-20 and already 9 games out of 1st ... but the bad was just getting started.

They'd win their next game (salvaging 1 of 3 from ATL) but then go 3 - 13 to sit at 22-33 / .333 win pct and 16 G off the pace

of the 39-18 Phils at the conclusion of the games of 5/29



It got a bit better after that.

Edited May 8, 2025 by Guest

[kcmets]

=Centerfield post_id=192027 time=1746730318 user_id=65]I'm not very good at tables. So I'm probably the wrong guy to start this thread.

[Centerfield]

Mets win!

Phillies lose!

Braves lose!

[kcmets]

Nats too.

[Edgy MD]

Hey!! We open June in first place!

[Cowtipper]

I've been AWOL for a week or so ... when did they recapture first place?

[Centerfield]

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Mets win!

Phillies lose!

Braves lose!

[metirish]

A good night

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Mets win!

Phillies lose!

Braves lose!

[Frayed Knot]

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Mets win!

Phillies lose!

Braves lose!

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Mets win!

Phillies lose!

Braves lose!

[Frayed Knot]

Phils just got swept by the Pirates, are 1-6 in June, and have lost 8 of their last 9



Braves are 0-7 in June and have lost 14 of 17



Mets were 3.0 game behind Philly on May 24th and 5.5 ahead of ATL

As of tonight, barely a week later, they're 4.5 and 11.5 ahead.



And while part of that is us playing series vs COL, CHW, and COL recently, there was also a four-game series with LAD mixed in. Plus there's the whole deal where we wind up with a total of 13 games vs LAD & NYY while the other NL teams only have to play them nine times so I'm not listening to any whining on their part.

Also, I'm just now realizing that we haven't played the Braves AT ALL this season (how fucked up is that?) but we will get them 7 times in our next 16 games and them or PHI in 10 of the next 16 right after dealing with WAS & TBR in the next six.

[metirish]

A week apparently is a long time in baseball

[Centerfield]

As FK mentioned in the other thread, the low point of the Mets 2024 season was May 30, 2024. The Mets were 24-33. We were 15.5 games behind Philadelphia for the division, and 9 games behind Atlanta for the WC.



Records the rest of the way:



NYM: 65-40

PHI: 55-49

ATL: 57-50



By playing .619 baseball for 4 months, the Mets were able to close the 9 games against Atlanta, but were never in the division race.



Back to 2025, the Atlanta Braves are 27-37. They're 14 games back of the Mets, and 9.5 games back of the Phillies, who right now are the third and final WC. There's certainly plenty of time for them to get right and snag a Wild Card. Especially if any of the top 3 fall back to the pack. The division is also in play, but the Mets can make that a much harder by continuing to win. Last year Philadelphia wasn't great in the second half, but they did play 6 games over .500 from May 31 onward.



For what it's worth, Fangraphs projects them to have a better record than the Mets for the rest of the year.



https://www.fangraphs.com/standings/playoff-oddshttps://www.fangraphs.com/standings/playoff-odds



NYM: 51.3 - 44.7

ATL: 55.5 - 42.5

[Centerfield]

More on the Braves. Atlanta's pitching is not bad. 13th overall in ERA, and 15th in WHIP. You figure as Strider gets back to being healthy, that could improve. Where the Braves have been bad is scoring runs. 21st in MLB (Mets are 7th). The Braves are 17th in OPS.



Looking at each of their players, I can't really understand why their overall numbers are bad. Acuna was out, but he's been back for 15 games and is raking (.944 OPS). Ozuna and Olson have an OPS in the .800s, and they've been getting great production from their new catcher Drake Baldwin (.859 OPS). Austin Riley (.783) and Sean Murphy (.771) have also been good. That's 6 good hitters. That should be enough to give you above-average offense.



Albies and Harris have been disappointing, and none of the other role players are really producing, but you'd think with that top 6 they'd at least be average. One thing it is not, is OPS with RISP. They're 22nd in OPS with RISP (.696), which is nearly identical to their overall OPS (.699).

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[Fman99]

Good stuff. Mets 8-2 in their last 10, Phillies 2-8 in theirs. The way life should be

[Benjamin Grimm]

Having a 14.5 game lead over the Braves is really nice. It seems very unlikely that they'll be able to overcome that, but they're a deep team and can't really be counted out yet.



And the Phillies, 5 games out with over 90 remaining, have certainly beaten much bigger odds, as we all remember.



But we should also be keeping an eye on the Cubs (2 games behind the Mets) and Dodgers (3.5), as well as the Giants (4) and Padres (4.5). The Mets need no more than one of those teams to finish ahead of them in order to get a bye from the Wild Card Series.

[Lefty Specialist]

Well, make that 5 1/2 over the Phillies and an even 15 over the Braves.



In the last ten games, the Mets are 8-2, the Phillies are 3-7, and the Nats, Braves and Marlins are 2-8. That's how you pull away in the division.

[Fman99]

Mets also now have the best record in MLB at 45-24, a half game better than Detroit at 45-23, and a stellar 27-7 at home, also the best home record in baseball.

[Johnny Lunchbucket]

21 games over.



Last year's Mets didn't get to 10 games over until August. 10 games over! August!

[Benjamin Grimm]

Actually... September!



https://leaptoad.com/mets/above_below_500_graph.php?year=2024>



https://leaptoad.com/mets/above_below_500_graph.php?year=2025>

[Centerfield]

I still can't believe 2024 unfolded the way it did.

[Centerfield]

It's hard to grasp how much damage has been done in one week. We may not see 21 games over .500 for a long long time. Certainly not in June. Probably not in July either.



Just a fucking disaster.

[stevejrogers]

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It's hard to grasp how much damage has been done in one week. We may not see 21 games over .500 for a long long time. Certainly not in June. Probably not in July either.



Just a fucking disaster.