Non-NYM off-season moves

[metirish]

Scott at the time worked in the Red Sox org , that's the "we"

[MFS62]

Nice of him to let us know that.

Thanks.

Later

[Johnny Lunchbucket]

To be clear, Zack Scott isn't a reporter. The reporter is Passan and Scott is remarking on his reporting

[metirish]

=MFS62 post_id=180126 time=1733249042 user_id=60]
Nice of him to let us know that.

Thanks.

Later

[MFS62]

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: To be clear, Zack Scott isn't a reporter. The reporter is Passan and Scott is remarking on his reporting

Scott still didn't let us know what team he was talking about. We shouldn't have to look it up.

Later

[Frayed Knot]

This went out over a Twitter/X account.

Presumably anyone following Scott on that platform would know who he is and what he does and those are the folks he's speaking to.

The only ambiguity is that it's being relayed here second hand and being read by those who don't necessarily know about him.

[MFS62]

Frayed Knot wrote: Presumably anyone following Scott on that platform would know who he is and what he does and those are the folks he's speaking to.

Exactly. And the people who know him know that he has worked for the Red Sox and The Mets and consulted with the Rangers and the Pirates.

So, shouldn't he have identified the team he was speaking about when he said "we"?

Later

[metirish]

Take the L and move on 😂

[Johnny Lunchbucket]

I know you're committed to this outrage act but there's enough info in that Tweet to divine which team is being spoken of, and the ... that leads to the entire tweet reveals its the Sox -- just not red or white

[MFS62]

JD Martinez signs with the Tigers.

Later

[MFS62]

Shane Bieber reportedly (Yahoo sports) re-signs with Guardians 1 yr, $10 mil, $16 Million option for 2026.



Later

[smg58]

The Indians presumably have a better idea of Bieber's health than anybody else does. It's a good deal for them if Bieber pitches most of the season.

[G-Fafif]

Willy Adames, who annoys Jesse Winker, signs with SF. 7 years, 182 mil.

Edited December 7, 2024 by Guest

[metirish]

Conforto to the Dodgers

[Centerfield]

Jordan Romano to the Phillies. 1 year deal. $7.75M. I was hoping the Mets would be involved here.

[metirish]

[Edgy MD]

Eight years for Fried is some stuff.

[Gwreck]

The years are really a red herring, since basically every long term pitching contract comes with lost time.



The total dollars, though? That's a lot.



Not sad he's out of the NL East.

[Frayed Knot]

Fried turns 31 next month so the deal takes him through his age 38 season.

[Bob Alpacadaca]

Seems like a wild overpay for Fried.

[MFS62]

Jeff Passan is reporting that Toronto is finalizing a deal to acquire ex-Met infielder Andres Giminez from Cleveland.



Later

[metirish]

I guess when you lose out on Soto you pivot to Giminez

[Frayed Knot]

Fried's been pretty darn good in his career [ERA+ since his first full season in 2019 = 114, 208, 143, 166, 171, 128]

and only in 2023 did he miss significant time. In every other season he made virtually every start: 30, 11 (Covid yr), 28, 30, 14, and 29 in '24

while notching a 2nd & 5th in CY voting, three Gold Gloves, two AS teams, and even a (Sigh!) Silver Slugger*.

So there are definitely worse guys to give big money to. As always, and especially so with pitchers north of 30, you worry about the length.



* The very last one awarded for a pitcher





And, once again given their usual shunning of long contracts to players over 30, I wonder if the Braves even tried to keep him or just

preemptively decided to let him walk.

[G-Fafif]

Toronto gets:

2B Andres Gimenez

RHP Nick Sandlin



Cleveland gets:

1B Spencer Horwitz

OF Nick Mitchell

[TransMonk]

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Not sad he's out of the NL East.

[MFS62]

Nathan Evoidi re-signs with Texas. no details.

Later

[Fman99]

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=Gwreck post_id=180737 time=1733872683 user_id=56]
Not sad he's out of the NL East.

[smg58]

I like Fried, but I would have been reluctant to give him five years. Eight? Nope. I'd much rather do what we did with Soto.



I own Spencer Horwitz in the ottoneu league. He's kind of a Daniel Murphy type -- he doesn't have the power bat you'd expect from a first baseman, but it's not clear at this stage in his career that he can play second base well enough to stick there. He had an .864 OPS against right-handed pitching as a rookie though, so there's plenty of value even if he's older than Gimenez.

[smg58]

When the Angels signed Yusei Kikuchi for 3 and 66, I thought it was too early in the offseason to grab a pitcher at the edge of what I'd consider paying for him. Now it looks like the Angels made a shrewd deal.

[G-Fafif]

Guardians flip Spencer Horwitz to Buccos.