Who's your All-Star?

[Edgy MD]

Lindor, despite two top-ten MVP seasons, has yet to make an All-Star team as a Met.



I'd say he's moving toward becoming the greatest-ever Met never make the All-Stars, but that title is currently held by teammate Brandon Nimmo, who is extending his lead.

[Lefty Specialist]

=G-Fafif post_id=161674 time=1720390022 user_id=55]
Pete Alonso is your sole 2024 Mets All-Star, pending injury replacement mishegas.

[bmfc1]

Pete is 6th on the Mets in WAR.

Lindor is the only player in the top 20 of fWAR not to make it.

MLB gave the 3d SS spot to Abrams to fill the WSH slot and needed a 1B + HR Derby participant so they picked Pete even though there were FIVE better choices.

[Johnny Lunchbucket]

=G-Fafif post_id=161674 time=1720390022 user_id=55]
Pete Alonso is your sole 2024 Mets All-Star, pending injury replacement mishegas.

[Frayed Knot]

Kind of a strange choice given that the competition among hard-hittin' 1st basemen is often the toughest.

Might be a dearth of them this season (I'd have to check) but Pete wouldn't have been in my first three NYM options.

Nimmo, Lindor, or Severino in some order or another would be above Pete for me.

[Fman99]

Surprising pick

[Frayed Knot]

Pete has also announced that he will participate in the HR Derby

Not a surprise.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Edgy MD wrote: Lindor, despite two top-ten MVP seasons, has yet to make an All-Star team as a Met. I'd say he's moving toward becoming the greatest-ever Met never make the All-Stars, but that title is currently held by teammate Brandon Nimmo, who is extending his lead.

I'd say it's John Olerud. Hope you don't think this post is also a fight.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Edgy MD wrote: Lindor, despite two top-ten MVP seasons, has yet to make an All-Star team as a Met. I'd say he's moving toward becoming the greatest-ever Met never make the All-Stars, but that title is currently held by teammate Brandon Nimmo, who is extending his lead. I'd say it's John Olerud. Hope you don't think this post is also a fight.

Also, Nimmo never had a full season where he was clearly all-star caliber. Not that I'm knocking him. He's an asset and a nifty player to have on your team. Just pointing out his limits. Also, the way "all star" is defined is pretty fucking stupid. An all star is essentially the player who's had the best April and May. An all star is also the best player on a team through the end of June even if that player is the 120th best player in the league.



Tough gig for Olerud who was AS/MVP caliber for three straight years but played first base for the Mets during the peak of the steroids era.

[Edgy MD]

=Marshmallowmilkshake post_id=161677 time=1720390625 user_id=119]
Good for Pete. I was hoping for Nimmo to get a shot, and I think Lindor deserves it, too. Isn't Betts out? Maybe Lindor can take his place.

[Johnny Lunchbucket]

Alonso for the time being screws over Christian Walker who's having a superior year across the board

[ashie62]

=Fman99 post_id=161694 time=1720400868 user_id=86]Surprising pick

[Marshmallowmilkshake]

Consensus on Buster Olney's podcast today was that Lindor is likely to be added -- and some love thrown Nimmo's way, too!

[batmagadanleadoff]

=ashie62 post_id=161718 time=1720436538 user_id=90]
=Fman99 post_id=161694 time=1720400868 user_id=86]Surprising pick

[metirish]

What ? Is this true ?

[Marshmallowmilkshake]

https://twitter.com/BNightengale/status/1810118449626329298 What ? Is this true ?

I don't see what's wrong there. It looks like Pete was saying if selected for the team, he'd participate in the derby. Is Nightengale implying that Pete was selected only because he would compete in the derby?

[metirish]

Right, that's how I read it , Bob is Bob though

[ashie62]

Me too



I thought Severino or Nimmo would be the pick, not so much Lindor

[Edgy MD]

Your 2024 Mets — theoretical All-Stars all over the place, but slam-dunk All-Stars nowhere to be found



(even though Francisco Lindor is like fifth in WAR in all of baseball).

[metirish]

Where is our hero advocating for Lindor ?

[Bob Alpacadaca]

https://twitter.com/Jim22Palmer/status/1810270102786605247 Where is our hero advocating for Lindor ?

Perhaps Palmer meant to say, "Yankee bias" instead of "NYC bias." C'mon, Jim!

[MFS62]

Palmer probably still hasn't forgiven the Mets since 1969.



In a nicer story, Pirate Rookie All-Star Paul Skenes said he wanted to meet Bob Uecker and I saw a picture on FB that showed they were introduced. Something about that makes me feel good.

Later

[Benjamin Grimm]

I wouldn't have guessed that Bob Uecker was still alive. Good for him!

[batmagadanleadoff]

https://twitter.com/BNightengale/status/1810118449626329298 What ? Is this true ? I don't see what's wrong there. It looks like Pete was saying if selected for the team, he'd participate in the derby. Is Nightengale implying that Pete was selected only because he would compete in the derby?

I think it's worse than that. According to a piece in The Athletic, Alonso played hardball with MLB and told MLB that he'd participate in the HR Derby only if he was also selected to the All-Star team. Apparently, Alonso had some leverage over MLB because the potential field for the Derby was greatly reduced after some injuries and opt-outs. Alonso was not an original choice for this year's Derby but after MLB's preferred field was diminished, MLB wanted Alonso very badly for the Derby, and so gave in to Alonso's demand.



By getting Pete Alonso in the Home Run Derby, MLB shortchanged two of his Mets teammates



Excerpt:

Brandon Nimmo and Francisco Lindor are deserving All-Stars. But neither earned spots in the fan or player voting, and Major League Baseball's desire for teammate Pete Alonso to be in the Home Run Derby prevented them from getting the Mets' only selection. Wittingly or not, Alonso created unintended consequences for Nimmo and Lindor when he said of the Derby, “If I'm selected to the All-Star team, I'm definitely open to doing it.” The league used each of its five at-large selections to account for teams that were left without a representative in the fan or player balloting. That is how Alonso became the Mets' only All-Star.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5629570/2024/07/10/pete-alonso-home-run-derby-mets-nimmo-lindor/https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5629570/2024/07/10/pete-alonso-home-run-derby-mets-nimmo-lindor/



The article's kinda fudgy but I think that my interpretation is the soundest because a player doesn't have to be an All-Star selection to participate in the HR Derby.

[MFS62]

The fact that they could have invited him to participate if he hadn't been an All-Star and he still demanded to be on the team leads me to guess that he either has an All Star bonus clause in his contract or his agent told him to do it to build his free agency resume. Or both.

Later

[batmagadanleadoff]

On the heels of Paul Skenes' 11-strikeout performance with seven no-hit innings Thursday, the Pittsburgh Pirates star rookie was named the National League's All-Star Game starting pitcher Friday.



Skenes will be the fifth rookie to start an All-Star Game in MLB history, joining Hideo Nomo (1995), Fernando Valenzuela (1981), Mark Fidrych (1976) and Dave Stenhouse (1962).



Since making his major-league debut on May 11, Skenes is 6-0 with a 1.90 ERA with 89 strikeouts and just 14 runs allowed in 66 1/3 innings. His ERA would be first in the league and his 12.08 strikeouts per nine innings would be second-best if he pitched enough innings to qualify as a league leader.



https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5633934/2024/07/12/pirates-paul-skenes-all-star-game-starter/https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5633934/2024/07/12/pirates-paul-skenes-all-star-game-starter/

[MFS62]

The two runs the Mets scored off Skenes (in 7 IP) was the most of any major league team he's faced.

We got his number.



Later

[Marshmallowmilkshake]

Did anyone have Jose Iglesias? OMG! He's headed to the Home Run Derby.



https://sny.tv/articles/mets-jose-iglesias-perform-omg-live-home-run-derbyhttps://sny.tv/articles/mets-jose-iglesias-perform-omg-live-home-run-derby

[Cowtipper]

They are really running this OMG thing into the ground very quickly.

[Fman99]

While all star caliber Mets Lindor & Nimmo stay home and make frowny faces (or take vacations and get rest, like I know).



Not to put down Iglesias' on field contributions which have wildly exceeded any reasonable expectations a Mets fan might have had when he was called up.