Get ready for the shitshow

[Edgy MD]

What happens when the clock gamesmanship becomes a defining part of the game?

[A Boy Named Seo]

More Max Madness. Called for a balk, not because he didn't come to a complete stop, but because he quick-pitched Victor Robles who wasn't ready and looking up. The twitter thread includes a post-game Max Q&A where he explains his side and a tweet from Howie trying to make sense of it all. Baseball in 2023 is weird.

Fangraphs covers all of Max's stuff -> https://blogs.fangraphs.com/max-scherzer-tests-the-limits-of-the-new-pitch-clock-rules/https://blogs.fangraphs.com/max-scherzer-tests-the-limits-of-the-new-pitch-clock-rules/

[Frayed Knot]

Test the limits of the rules now.

That's part of what ST is for.

[metirish]

Make of this what you will, if anything

[G-Fafif]

Vogey is ready.

[Benjamin Grimm]

He probably means he'll take one home with him after the game.

[duan]

that's pretty good in fairness.

[G-Fafif]

If ya really wanna shift, bring in an outfielder, per Jayson Starks and some teams messing around with the notion.



https://theathletic.com/4336237/2023/03/23/mlb-two-man-outfield-shift/https://theathletic.com/4336237/2023/03/23/mlb-two-man-outfield-shift/

[Benjamin Grimm]

If ya really wanna shift, bring in an outfielder, per Jayson Starks and some teams messing around with the notion. https://theathletic.com/4336237/2023/03/23/mlb-two-man-outfield-shift/https://theathletic.com/4336237/2023/03/23/mlb-two-man-outfield-shift/

I've been thinking that this is inevitable, and will probably be addressed in yet another rule change for 2024.

[Edgy MD]

=duan post_id=120500 time=1679658942 user_id=99]
that's pretty good in fairness.

[duan]

Ah it's good humoured and self aware.

[metirish]

[kcmets]

I don't tweet much, if at all really but...



"Pitch clock and gametime management - good. Ghost runners - stupid."



You've all been tweeted. Yay!

[Edgy MD]

Yeah, the question is too frequently phrased in terms of "What do you think of 'the new rules'?" Each rule clearly deserves to be considered individually.



But that's the way The Man operates.

[nymr83]

Carrasco flat out said the pitch clock bothered him today. Definitely something to watch as he already felt like the most likely starter to have a NON INJURY related regression to shit this year.

[Johnny Lunchbucket]

I don't think Buck would like "I wasn't prepared" as an excuse.

[Edgy MD]

On the other hand, it's not like the rest o' the team was steppin' up.

[duan]

I think it's fair to have it as a 'it got to me' issue - but you then need to have that sorted for next time out. Fact of the matter is the pitchclock has made baseball WAY WAY snappier and a much better game.

[nymr83]

=duan post_id=121351 time=1680603205 user_id=99]
I think it's fair to have it as a 'it got to me' issue - but you then need to have that sorted for next time out. Fact of the matter is the pitchclock has made baseball WAY WAY snappier and a much better game.

[Fman99]

I think when 2023 wraps up you'll see a bunch of guys like Carrasco did yesterday - who never figure out how to adapt to the pitch clock. I'm not saying Cookie can't right it, only that there will be some dudes who never do.



Once Verlander is back, the pressure mounts, assuming Megill and Peterson continue to look MLB ready and everyone else manages to not get hurt. This is Cookie's walk year and the Mets won't give him 31 more starts if he peters out in the middle innings repeatedly.

[duan]

=nymr83 post_id=121358 time=1680612378 user_id=54]


Spring training was the time to sort it out, but I don't know that he CAN sort it out - he mentioned it was a fatigue thing, that he felt he didn't have time to recover during/after two long innings

[duan]

=Fman99 post_id=121359 time=1680613405 user_id=86]
I think when 2023 wraps up you'll see a bunch of guys like Carrasco did yesterday - who never figure out how to adapt to the pitch clock. I'm not saying Cookie can't right it, only that there will be some dudes who never do.

[ashie62]

So Carrasco is on a short leash

[Frayed Knot]

Not after one game, no.

[Edgy MD]

Ashie likes to move on quickly.



It seems cardio is going to be a crucial training element going forward, for pitchers and hitters as well.

[metirish]

MLB eyes more rule changes, will experiment in Atlantic League

3:02 PM ET



Associated Press



PHOENIX -- Major League Baseball isn't done tinkering with potential rule changes for the sport.



The league announced a series of experimental rules Tuesday that will be used in the Atlantic League this season, including a designated pinch runner, "double-hook" designated hitter rule and further limitations on a pitcher's ability to make pick-off moves.



The designated pinch runner rule allows a player who is not in the starting lineup to be used at any point of the game as a substitute baserunner. The player who was subbed out, as well as the pinch runner, would still be able to return to the game.





The "double-hook" designated hitter rule allows teams to use the DH throughout the game as long as the starting pitcher throws at least five innings. If that doesn't occur, than the team loses it's DH and the pitcher's spot would bat for the remainder of the game. The rule was also used in the Atlantic League last season.



There's also a single disengagement rule, which means pitchers can only take their foot off the rubber once per at-bat to attempt a pick-off or reset the pitch clock.



The Atlantic League is an independent, minor league that has been a designated MLB Partner League since 2019, helping the sport test new rules. Some of the rules have stuck and eventually been used in the big leagues, while others haven't.



MLB has debuted a series of rules changes this season that were tested throughout the minors, including the Atlantic League. The new pitch clock has shaved about 30 minutes off game times through the season's first three weeks, while limits on the infield shift and bigger bases have helped boost offense.



"We thank the Atlantic League for their continued partnership," said Morgan Sword, MLB's Vice President of Baseball Operations, in a statement. "In recent years, the ALPB's experimental rules have aimed to emphasize athleticism, improved pace of play and other means of giving fans the game they want to see."

[Edgy MD]

Shit fuck and shitfuck.



This is fundamentally undermining the philosophical foundation of baseball.



The Atlantic League, allowing themselves to be used as lab rats, should be ashamed.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Based on past history, I have to assume that all of these changes will eventually make it to MLB.



I agree with Edgy. The rule that once you're out of the game you're out of the game is fundamental, and I see no reason to get rid of it.



And why the double-hook rule? I like that it (seemingly?) would result in fewer DH at bats, but I wonder what the motivation for it is.

[MFS62]

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

What "brokes" are these fixes trying to remedy?

Shitfuck is an understatement.



Later

[Edgy MD]

They keep telling me that they're doing this for "the fans," and I feel like I'm being gaslit.



Soccer has, like, six rules.