Let's talk about Trevor Bauer

[Lefty Specialist]

=TransMonk post_id=55532 time=1612558942 user_id=71]
100% OK with him going to LA.

[ashie62]

Dodgers overpaid in every way.



Nothing to see, move along.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Dodgers overpaid in every way.

So what? You give a shit? This bothers you? It's your money? And how much more money was the Dodgers offer compared to the Mets, anyway? Because the Mets didn't offer to "overpay"?



The Mets offered more money and would've made Bauer the highest paid player over the first two years of the contract.

[LWFS]

The Dodgers DID make Bauer the highest paid player over the first two years. One would presume they offered more.

[nymr83]

Dodgers overpaid in every way. So what? You give a shit? This bothers you? It's your money? And how much more money was the Dodgers offer compared to the Mets, anyway? Because the Mets didn't offer to "overpay"? The Mets offered more money and would've made Bauer the highest paid player over the first two years of the contract.

Its not my money and wouldnt have bothered me at all. What does bother me is the structure - I would have been fine with 1 year or 3 years but not a series of 1 year opt ins for the player - THAT would have been a bad deal where the Mets get all the risk and none of the reward

[Edgy MD]

There's a pain point for everybody.



The only guy I want to overpay for is Lyle Overbay.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Edgy MD wrote: There's a pain point for everybody. The only guy I want to overpay for is Lyle Overbay.

Whose "pain point" are you talking about? Yours? Or the Mets? Because if it's your "pain point", why should we care? (Make your case). And if it's the Mets "pain point", well the Mets offered Bauer more money than the Dodgers did.



I can't complain about the Mets pursuit of Bauer. They did all they could. It appears that Bauer wanted to play for his home town team all along and migtht've been using the Mets as a bargaining chip against the Dodgers. I don't have a gripe with the posters here who didn't want the Mets to sign Bauer for personality reasons. Even though Syndergaard never had a 60 game stretch as good as Bauer's 2020. And even though Bauer was better than Syndergaard over the last three seasons even if Bauer was mediocre in 2019. And Bauer's not coming off of Tommy John surgery. Whatever. I thought Gary Carter was an enormous dick, too, but I tolerated him. A different sort of dick. A manipulative dick. But a dick. Still, Bauer comes with performance risks. His Cy Young came in a 60 game season where he pitched almost exclusively against his division. He's using a substance to enhance his spin rate and should baseball suddenly crack down on the use of that substance, well then who knows how good Bauer will be, then. Maybe another 2019? Who knows?



My beef is with these posts about how now the Mets can afford to extend Conforto and Syndergaard, having not signed Bauer. I mean, $30M is like pizza-pie money to Steve Cohen but I guess this hasn't sunk in. And yes, Syndergaard will come a lot cheaper than Bauer. That's because Syndergaard's not as good.

[Benjamin Grimm]

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[Edgy MD]

Edgy MD wrote: There's a pain point for everybody. The only guy I want to overpay for is Lyle Overbay. Whose "pain point" are you talking about? Yours? Or the Mets?

Everybody's.



My pain point was one year and one dollar. I don't want this guy representing my team.

[batmagadanleadoff]

=LWFS post_id=55548 time=1612565509 user_id=84]
The Dodgers DID make Bauer the highest paid player over the first two years.

[LWFS]

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=55573 time=1612625949 user_id=68]
=LWFS post_id=55548 time=1612565509 user_id=84]
The Dodgers DID make Bauer the highest paid player over the first two years.

[bmfc1]

https://nypost.com/2021/02/07/mets-thought-they-had-reached-a-deal-with-trevor-bauer/https://nypost.com/2021/02/07/mets-thought-they-had-reached-a-deal-with-trevor-bauer/

Was Bauer's agent disingenuous or did the Dodgers simply outwork the Mets at the last minute?

[G-Fafif]

https://nypost.com/2021/02/07/mets-thought-they-had-reached-a-deal-with-trevor-bauer/https://nypost.com/2021/02/07/mets-thought-they-had-reached-a-deal-with-trevor-bauer/ Was Bauer's agent disingenuous or did the Dodgers simply outwork the Mets at the last minute?

Queen Latifah is

AGENT DISINGENUOUS

...coming up after the Super Bowl

on CBS

[Fman99]

The guy actually posted a

multi-tweet apology to Mets fans for inadvertently leaking promotional materials that he wanted to have ready to go. I'm not really sure what his angle is on this, aside from potentially trying to keep the door open for another FA flirtation next winter if he has a good 2021 and opts out of his LA deal.

[batmagadanleadoff]

The guy actually posted a https://twitter.com/BauerOutage/status/1358618486348500993multi-tweet apology to Mets fans for inadvertently leaking promotional materials that he wanted to have ready to go. I'm not really sure what his angle is on this, aside from potentially trying to keep the door open for another FA flirtation next winter if he has a good 2021 and opts out of his LA deal.

I don't buy it and that tweet was no mistake. He's a fucking idiot. (And a great pitcher).



I can't quite put my finger on it but that tweet and his agent's tweet -- "Down to 2" -- annoy me more than anything else Bauer did. He played the Mets as far as I'm concerned.

[smg58]

https://nypost.com/2021/02/07/mets-thought-they-had-reached-a-deal-with-trevor-bauer/https://nypost.com/2021/02/07/mets-thought-they-had-reached-a-deal-with-trevor-bauer/ Was Bauer's agent disingenuous or did the Dodgers simply outwork the Mets at the last minute?

I see no need to assume an either/or here. The agent did the job she was hired to do, and I don't think she or Bauer cares if you disagree with the methods. And the Mets seemed to go through the whole offseason incorrectly assuming nobody would produce a more desirable deal.

[smg58]

I don't buy it and that tweet was no mistake.

Yes.

He's a fucking idiot. (And a great pitcher).

Yes to the first part. That, couple with Bauer only being occasionally great, make me think this is a blessing in disguise.

I can't quite put my finger on it but that tweet and his agent's tweet -- "Down to 2" -- annoy me more than anything else Bauer did. He played the Mets as far as I'm concerned.

It never seemed to occur to the Mets that the Southern California native might have an interest in playing for the Southern California team with a wider wallet and a roster that is perfectly capable of repeating as champions even without him.

[Edgy MD]

I don't think there's any evidence that would lead me to conclude that the Mets didn't believe the competition was real.

[batmagadanleadoff]

I think Cohen's pulling punches either to not annihilate his competitors or to send a signal that he won't be "had". And the upshot is that he whiffed on Realmuto, Springer and Bauer for a collective total amount of money that's pennies to him.

[ashie62]

Bauer is not a great pitcher. Good? Yes. Very good? now and then.

[Edgy MD]

I must've missed something. Did the Mets make an offer to J.T. Realmuto?

[Frayed Knot]

I think Cohen's pulling punches either to not annihilate his competitors or to send a signal that he won't be "had".

Or, after spending, what?, somewhere around 1/5 of his wealth buying the team, he's opting to spend based on the revenue the club creates rather than spending at a pace that might require

him to dump even more cash into it in the very first year, especially when you consider that the club's revenue was limited last year by a shortened season played without fans and conditions

are uncertain heading into this season.

[Centerfield]

Cohen made $2 billion+ last year. So he ended up at break even plus the Mets.



Cohen is concerned with playing nice, not being taken for a ride, and possibly the non-monetary penalties associated with the tax. He is not, in any way, concerned about the extra $20 million to George Springer or the last few years of the Realmuto deal.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Frayed Knot wrote: I think Cohen's pulling punches either to not annihilate his competitors or to send a signal that he won't be "had". Or, after spending, what?, somewhere around 1/5 of his wealth buying the team, he's opting to spend based on the revenue the club creates rather than spending at a pace that might require him to dump even more cash into it in the very first year, especially when you consider that the club's revenue was limited last year by a shortened season played without fans and conditions are uncertain heading into this season.

Give me a break already. Cohen's like no other owner and in a category all by himself. You could steal $30M from him every single month and he wouldn't even notice.



Do you also think that the Mets are worth what Cohen paid for based upon strict accounting principles?



Jeez, I guess it woulda bankrupted him to offer Springer another $20M or $25M. Spread out over six years.

[Frayed Knot]

I gotta say, I find amusing this idea that Cohen is basing his spending decisions on how he thinks it might make the other owners feel.








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Do you also think that the Mets are worth what Cohen paid for based upon strict accounting principles?

[TransMonk]

https://twitter.com/BauerOutage/status/1360338977836789760https://twitter.com/BauerOutage/status/1360338977836789760



Dude couldn't make it past day one in LA before being upset at contradictory press. He would've been eaten alive in NYC and it would have been embarrassing for all.



The Athletic article in question was an editorial from a female reporter pointing out what Bauer didn't say at his Dodger intro that she wishes he would have.

[Edgy MD]

Pretty funny to lament the declining latter-day fake news standards of a once-great journalism outlet that's less then five years old.