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I believe Schneck holds the Mets record for most years on the MLB roster without ever getting his own Topps baseball card.

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=batmagadanleadoff post_id=58645 time=1616694200 user_id=68]
I believe Schneck holds the Mets record for most years on the MLB roster without ever getting his own Topps baseball card.

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Just getting to read the Mays stories.



A couple random thoughts:



-- Dick Young was already kissing up to M. Donald Grant. Executive of the year? Foreshadowing.

-- Jim Beauchamp was the last to wear 24 before Willie, and Don Hahn apparently was sent to Tidewater. My memories of Hahn are forever linked to the staged yearbook photo of him making an above the wall catch!


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Sad to hear of the injury to teenaged New Jersey jockey Steve Plomchok, I looked him up, and learned he was convicted and sent up the river in the late seventies following a conviction in a big race fixing scandal that made a little bit of news at the time (sort of rings a bell to me, anyhow).



Apparently, https://www.nytimes.com/1979/04/07/archives/7-racing-figures-sentenced-in-fixes-big-tony-talked.htmlthe jig was up when Big Tony squealed, which, I'm sorry, but who couldn't see that coming?


  • 2 weeks later...
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https://leaptoad.com/mets/covers/1986/19861026_NSD_01.jpg> https://leaptoad.com/mets/covers/1986/19861026_NSD_02.jpg>

https://leaptoad.com/mets/covers/1986/19861026_NYDN_01.jpg> https://leaptoad.com/mets/covers/1986/19861026_NYDN_02a.jpg>



Is it possible that Mookie's grounder was only an iconic moment in hindsight? I was at Shea that night and I knew how special that grounder was, but here we have four covers, and none of them include a photo of Mookie and Buckner. (Maybe the Post got it right? I don't have access to their covers from October 1986.)


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I believe it's a function of deadlines. The game ended around 12:30 AM. The News pictured is a Racing Final, not a Sports Final. New York Newsday tended to be an earlier edition than LI.



I know the later News had a photo of Marv Albert interviewing Ray Knight, leading me to infer they went with whatever they could get amid the time crunch.



Also: no Sunday NY Post in 1986.


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Amazin' how we've forgotten how indifferent the morning edition could be, and even when the early edition that hit the stoop had the headline right and the leded paragraph, paragraphs underneath that were written while the outcome of the game was still unknown. And the lead photo would suggest that the big story was this amazing bubble Gary Carter blew while sitting next to Bob Ojeda.



By the 2000 World Series, we not only got full coverage the next morning, but a ghostwritten column under Mike Piazza's name, as if the game ended at 12:30 and everybody was packing it in and maybe grabbing a quick drink before dropping dead on their beds and he was all, "Ah shit, I've got a deadline."


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Lupica is right, they play ball too late, even on a weekend.



Like someone said elsewhere: more day games, especially in the playoffs, please.


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It was definitely related to being young and the Mets being on top of the world, but I confess a sweet fondness for the Friday night 8:00 starts.



By the way, does anybody still do the ghostwritten-column-by-the-superstar thing during the World Series? Those go all the way back to Babe Ruth and probably further.


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I believe it's a function of deadlines. The game ended around 12:30 AM. The News pictured is a Racing Final, not a Sports Final. New York Newsday tended to be an earlier edition than LI.



I know the later News had a photo of Marv Albert interview ping Ray Knight, leading me to infer they went with whatever they could get amid the time crunch.



Also: no Sunday NY Post in 1986.


I remember that. I have specific memories of "getting the papers" the next day -- or next morning, really -- and being very dissatisfied with the tabloid covers not really capturing the enormity of what transpired in game six. I realized it was probably the deadlines.



Here's a Boston Herald cover.



[FIMG=555]https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51292137211_1e9df0271e_h.jpg[/FIMG]


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Edgy MD wrote:

Man, that looks like Carter is about to have a bite taken out of his ass by a sick, sick man.


Is that two Wally Backmans surrounding Carter?









(One's probably the batboy, I think).


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The thing that I had totally forgotten is that there were no digital photos in 1986. It's been so long since I've dealt with "film" that it had completely slipped my mind. I'm used to being able to see the photo immediately after it's been taken.



But the photos of Mookie's grounder had to go to a darkroom, film had to be converted to negative and then printed. The earlier photos of Gary Carter and his bubble gum, while less compelling, were ready when the edition went to press.


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I was thinking about that recently as I was musing about how awful some of the photography is on some of the 1970s Topps cards. They probably only shot one or two games, tops, and they're not going to take more than a few photos of each guy. So I guess you get what you get once you get it back to the lab and developed.


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I was thinking about that recently as I was musing about how awful some of the photography is on some of the 1970s Topps cards. They probably only shot one or two games, tops, and they're not going to take more than a few photos of each guy. So I guess you get what you get once you get it back to the lab and developed.


Here are some fun examples



https://www.tcdb.com/List.cfm/lid/7242/Where%27s-Waldo??C=3 https://www.tcdb.com/List.cfm/lid/7242/Where's-Waldo??C=3


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This is a blast from a more recent past than we usually see. I had forgotten all about the Mets interest in Michael Bourn going into the 2013 season. I had forgotten all about Michael Bourn. As it turns out, if the Mets had signed Bourn they probably would not currently have Dominic Smith.



Bourn signed a four-year $48 million contract with the Indians. Cleveland traded him to the Braves in August of 2015, and the Braves released him in April of 2016. While he spent some time in the organizations of the Blue Jays and Angels, he never played a big league game for either team.



MICHAEL BOURN'S CAREER AFTER HE SIGNED WITH CLEVELAND

February 15, 2013: Signed as a Free Agent with the Cleveland Indians.



August 7, 2015: Traded by the Cleveland Indians with Nick Swisher and cash to the Atlanta Braves for Chris Johnson.



April 9, 2016: Released by the Atlanta Braves.



April 22, 2016: Signed as a Free Agent with the Toronto Blue Jays.



May 7, 2016: Released by the Toronto Blue Jays.



May 10, 2016: Signed as a Free Agent with the Arizona Diamondbacks.



August 31, 2016: Traded by the Arizona Diamondbacks to the Baltimore Orioles for Jason Heinrich (minors).



November 3, 2016: Granted Free Agency.



February 22, 2017: Signed as a Free Agent with the Baltimore Orioles.



March 27, 2017: Released by the Baltimore Orioles.



April 11, 2017: Signed as a Free Agent with the Baltimore Orioles.



May 24, 2017: Released by the Baltimore Orioles.



June 1, 2017: Signed as a Free Agent with the Los Angeles Angels.



July 2, 2017: Released by the Los Angeles Angels.





THE CRANE POOL FORUM DISCUSSES MICHAEL BOURN



http://phpbb3.leaptoad.com/mets/archives/19000/f1_t19010.shtmlThe Bourn Compensation



http://phpbb3.leaptoad.com/mets/archives/19000/f1_t19070.shtmlBourn to Indians !!





OUR FIRST LOOK AT DOMINIC SMITH



(I don't know why he's pictured wearing a Marlins uniform.)



http://leaptoad.com/mets/clippings/00036.jpg>


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That Daily News preview box in the Harvey story is all whacky. Games Friday, Saturday... and Thursday (it was Sunday). Tom "Stupid" Koehler pitched, ND, we lost it on 4 in the 11th off Bobby Pee and Robert Carson


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