Another Potential Buyer

[ashie62]

It will be interesting. Cohen is a true Mets fan. He is also a savage competitor within his industry; and prosecuted for it. Cohen is "supposed" to stand away from his hedge funds at least in name only.



I could see him wanting to be hands on with the Mets as could anyone.



Don't know if Brodie or Rojas survive the coming purge.



You could get a good baseball sense of Cohen in how he handles any contract talks with Conforto this winter.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Okay, so the original deal was $2.6 billion, with Jeff Wilpon running the team for five years.



The new deal is $2.4 billion, and no Jeff.



Does this mean that five years of Jeff Wilpon is worth $200 million????

[Edgy MD]

I thought involving himself in negotiations with the players was something we didn't want to see, but I guess you mean whether or not he actually does that.



I think we'll get a good sense about Cohen in how he approaches getting the vote of the the supermajority of the owners.



I think he will, but it very well could get ugly and it could get public.

[Benjamin Grimm]

It's the GM's job to negotiate with players. It's the owner who provides the budget. What I would like to see is Cohen giving the green light to Brodie (or whoever) to spend $X million on Conforto, with X being a high enough number to get the job done.

[MFS62]

If Brodie gets tossed, will he then resume his job as an agent and start to play hardball on future negotiations with the Mets?

I'll take that chance.

Later

[Edgy MD]

I'm not sure why Brodie is a villain.

[MFS62]

Edgy MD wrote: I'm not sure why Brodie is a villain.

I was wondering if he gets canned, will he have animosity toward the company that tossed him. Many ex-employees feel that way. Not saying he would "go postal", but that would be a way to get back at the Mets.

Later

[Benjamin Grimm]

Not something to worry about. I don't think it would be in Brodie's best interests, or that of his clients, to steer his players away from the New York team with the multi-billionaire owner.



But if you're saying that he'd try to get as much money for his players from the Mets as he possibly could, well, that would be his job as an agent anyway.

[MFS62]

That's what I meant. I don't see him letting any of his clients giving the Mets a "home team discount" if they wanted one.

Later

[Edgy MD]

My concern is that you raise this prospect with "I'll take this chance," the seeming implication being that his firing is of some sort of paramount importance.



I'm just not there.

[Benjamin Grimm]

I'm not there either. And as http://thecranepool.net/phpBB32/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=29502this poll from two months ago reveals, most of us are willing to give Brodie another year.

[Lefty Specialist]

Edgy MD wrote: I'm not sure why Brodie is a villain.

He's not necessarily a villain (although, y'know, Cano/Diaz), but I would think the new guy with infinite resources is going to want a guy he picks running the show. And being a part owner and doing a proctological examination of the entire organization as due diligence in making the offer, I'd expect some changes. Rojas shouldn't get too comfortable either.

[bmfc1]

I suspect that Cohen might bring in an Executive Director of Baseball Operations or something like that (I see that they presently have a Director of Baseball Operations and I've never heard of the guy: https://www.mlb.com/mets/team/front-officehttps://www.mlb.com/mets/team/front-office) who can look at the entire operation.

[MFS62]

Just the other day I was wondering, "What ever happened to Rafael Landestoy?"

Now I know.



Later

[Edgy MD]

He's been with the organization a long time, actually. He's been the minor league field coordinator since before the Terry Collins era and I think was an instructor with them going back to the 1990s. I'm not sure if it's been uninterrupted service, but it's been a while. He was part of the shakeup way back when Dallas Green was replaced by Bobby Valentine.

[bmfc1]

Thanks, Edgy.



If "maybe the Mets would be better off with the Rodriguez/Lopez team as the owner rather than Cohen", then consider that Jeffy would have stayed in our lives", per Deesha Thosar in The Daily News:

https://twitter.com/DeeshaThosar/status/1305937057836158978https://twitter.com/DeeshaThosar/status/1305937057836158978

[Benjamin Grimm]

I can't help but think that the J-Rod group would have been like going from the frying pan to the fire.

[Lefty Specialist]

As the kids say, OMG.



If Jeff Wilpon had any role in this team going forward I would have had an aneurysm. What an ass.



Ann Richards' line never fit anyone better; "He was born on third base and thought he hit a triple". He should just take the damn money and go hide in an eastern European country.

[batmagadanleadoff]

From what I've been reading and surmising, it was Jeff, I think, that fucked up the first Steve Cohen deal more than Cohen himself supposedly did. What a horrible person. He fucked up everything. Tidewater, too. The Mets had that minor league affiliate forever until like three minutes after Jeff got involved. Then Jeff pissed everybody off at Tidewater because he had the leverage and he could act like a scumbag with impunity because he is a scumbag. Except that time, he didn't have the leverage and the Tidewater owners got their ducks all lined up and eventually told Jeff to go fuck himself.



I'll be those Saul Katz cousins probably wanna strangle Jeff. Not just strangle him. Strangle him like those psychopaths do when they strangle their victim, but only to the brink of death, so the victim can recover some so that he can be strangled again.



To finally close this latest deal with Cohen, the Katzes hadda shut Jeff out of the final negotiations.

[MFS62]

SNY is reporting that the A-Rod/J-Lo group has submitted a bid equal to what Cohen has offered. If the MLB owners deny Cohen, their bid will be considered.

https://sports.yahoo.com/latest-mets-sale-process-steve-145429201.htmlhttps://sports.yahoo.com/latest-mets-sale-process-steve-145429201.html



Conspiracy theory time: If I'm a major league club owner, I'm thinking "Do I want Cohen to win the bid, and turn the Mets into a powerhouse, or do I want the A-Rod / J-Lo ownership, because they'll probably screw them up for years to come?"

The owners didn't amass their fortunes by allowing their competition to get better.

Just sayin'.

Later

[Edgy MD]

I kind of think that model has worked fine for them.



And I don't know why Cohen turning the team into a powerhouse or Rodriguez and Lopez screwing them up is some kind of automatic expectation.

[Centerfield]

It's not automatic, but a pretty safe assumption. One fought like hell to keep Jeff away. The other group embraced him. The group that likes Jeff would be over leveraged, similar to the Wilpons.



So yes. Not dispositive, but likely.

[Centerfield]

Frayed Knot wrote: https://nypost.com/2020/07/06/steve-cohen-is-making-another-big-push-to-buy-mets/He's Baaaaaaack!! "Sources close to billionaire hedge-fund manager Steve Cohen told The Post he will bid on the Mets this week ..." Imagine. In 2021, we could have a vaccine, a new president, our jobs back, and Steve Cohen as owner of the NY Mets.

Thinking back to this post of mine from July. To think the sale might close the same day Biden is declared the winner. Am I greedy to want a vaccine before the weekend?

[Centerfield]

Monday. It took until Monday to get the vaccine.



We got Cohen, Biden and the Pfizer vaccine over a 4 day span.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Quick, before the mojo wears off... Is there anything else on our wishlist?

[MFS62]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Quick, before the mojo wears off... Is there anything else on our wishlist?

World Peace.

Later

[Benjamin Grimm]

That's ambitious. I'd have been happy for a bagel with cream cheese.

[MFS62]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: That's ambitious. I'd have been happy for a bagel with cream cheese.

Up here where I live, finding a good bagel is harder than finding World Peace.

Later

[stevejrogers]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Quick, before the mojo wears off... Is there anything else on our wishlist?

That the political party I currently identify with sheds the label that we're the party that doesn't care and wants to kill anyone that isn't a non-straight, ultra rich caucasian male. That'd be a nice thing since I really don't actually know or associate with any of us conservative republicans or libertarians that really are that hateful with lack of empathy!

[Benjamin Grimm]

I never thought that the Republican party wants to kill everyone who isn't a wealthy white heterosexual male. They just want to subjugate them.