Baseball Hall of Fame 2020

[nymr83]

=seawolf17 post_id=29538 time=1578686564 user_id=91]
Come on, voters who don't believe in First Year Guys. We just need one.

[MFS62]

=nymr83 post_id=29564 time=1578715589 user_id=54]
=seawolf17 post_id=29538 time=1578686564 user_id=91]
Come on, voters who don't believe in First Year Guys. We just need one.

[Edgy MD]

How about Mark McGwire falling off the ballot before the shift in attitudes about users while Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens may have stuck around for just long enough?

[Guest 41Forever]

This from Ken Davidoff:

Welcome to baseball's beautifully boring January. Oh, sure, the anvil about to fall on the Astros will entertain us for a couple of days, and the perennially unheralded Derek Jeter will finally get his due with his unanimous (just my hunch) Hall of Fame election Jan. 21.

Derek Jeter is perennially unheralded? Finally getting his due? I'm hoping he's being sarcastic and it just doesn't translate well. Because I can't think of a more over-praised New York baseball player than Derek Jeter.



And on another topic, he states:

The expansion of the designated hitter to the National League would help pitchers stay healthy in addition to allowing more big names to play longer.

The DH helps pitchers stay healthy? Have we had an incident of a pitcher injured while batting or running the bases -- ever?

[batmagadanleadoff]

Chad ochoseis wrote: =batmagadanleadoff post_id=29457 time=1578514347 user_id=68] Larry Walker away from Coors Field LIFETIME ... .282/.372/.500 Jim Edmonds LIFETIME .284/.376/.527 Moises Alou LIFETIME .303/.369/.516 Rusty Staub LIFETIME ... .279/.362/.431 Joe Torre LIFETIME ... .297/.365/.452 Frank Howard LIFETIME ... .273/.352/.499 John Olerud LIFETIME ... .296/.398/.465 Keith Hernandez LIFETIME ... .296/.384/.436

Sure, Walker's stats are Coors inflated, but when you pull out Coors, you're pulling out his home stats from age 28-36. Those are likely to be the most productive ABs of any slugger's career, Coors or no Coors. A fair comparison would have to remove the age 28-36 home stats for the other players, too.

[MFS62]

Because I can't think of a more over-praised New York baseball player than Derek Jeter.

I remember when there would be a countless baseball magazine cover articles each year proclaiming Bobby Richardson "The most underrated player in baseball".

In my circle of friends, he was "the most overrated underrated player in baseball".

Later

[HahnSolo]

Wang and Tanaka both got hurt on the basepaths. But they were Yankees, so I laughed.

[G-Fafif]

=41Forever post_id=29584 time=1578844366 user_id=69]
This from Ken Davidoff:

Derek Jeter is perennially unheralded? Finally getting his due? I'm hoping he's being sarcastic and it just doesn't translate well. Because I can't think of a more over-praised New York baseball player than Derek Jeter.

[Frayed Knot]

=HahnSolo post_id=29588 time=1578849458 user_id=63]
Wang and Tanaka both got hurt on the basepaths. But they were Yankees, so I laughed.

[bmfc1]

The latest on the HoF voting. It's Jeter AND Walker:

https://twitter.com/sarsdell/status/1218295685386309635/photo/1https://twitter.com/sarsdell/status/1218295685386309635/photo/1

[Edgy MD]

Back in '15 Max Scherzer strained his thumb batting while Adam Wainwright messed up his Achilles tendon running the bases.



That said, I think many such "we need to reduce ..." initiatives in baseball history have been shortsighted, and fall subject to The Law of Unintended Consequences.

[nymr83]

=nymr83 post_id=29420 time=1578452424 user_id=54]
welcome to the hall

Curt Schilling

Roger Clemens

Barry Bonds

Larry Walker

Sammy Sosa

Omar Vizquel

Scott Rolen

Billy Wagner

[MFS62]

Hold your nose and keep a barf bag handy- an article that says Jeter may be underrated!!

https://www.mlb.com/news/derek-jeter-an-all-time-great-hitting-shortstop?partnerId=zh-20200120-156907-47943&query_id=1026&bt_ee=iZZD5G5ucz6g4Wl6ZSMjt7hEpGNyEwkB0b5eXU0qlGsLXBTPK8925DTijoXKZmsl&bt_ts=1579523828369https://www.mlb.com/news/derek-jeter-an-all-time-great-hitting-shortstop?partnerId=zh-20200120-156907-47943&query_id=1026&bt_ee=iZZD5G5ucz6g4Wl6ZSMjt7hEpGNyEwkB0b5eXU0qlGsLXBTPK8925DTijoXKZmsl&bt_ts=1579523828369



SPOILER ALERT: the part where he says "If you take defense out of it.." is like saying, "Other than the result General Custer, how did the battle go?"



Later

[nymr83]

Hold your nose and keep a barf bag handy- an article that says Jeter may be underrated!! https://www.mlb.com/news/derek-jeter-an-all-time-great-hitting-shortstop?partnerId=zh-20200120-156907-47943&query_id=1026&bt_ee=iZZD5G5ucz6g4Wl6ZSMjt7hEpGNyEwkB0b5eXU0qlGsLXBTPK8925DTijoXKZmsl&bt_ts=1579523828369https://www.mlb.com/news/derek-jeter-an-all-time-great-hitting-shortstop?partnerId=zh-20200120-156907-47943&query_id=1026&bt_ee=iZZD5G5ucz6g4Wl6ZSMjt7hEpGNyEwkB0b5eXU0qlGsLXBTPK8925DTijoXKZmsl&bt_ts=1579523828369 SPOILER ALERT: the part where he says "If you take defense out of it.." is like saying, "Other than the result General Custer, how did the battle go?" Later

Can we "take offense out of it"? Rey Ordonez, welcome to Cooperstown!

[G-Fafif]

Hoping someone doesn't vote for Jeter “because selecting anybody else unanimously would be an insult to the legacy of Mariano Rivera.”

[MFS62]

Announcement 3 PM today.

Later

[Ceetar]

the BBWAA hall is still a thing? pass.

[bmfc1]

https://twitter.com/Cdnmooselips33/status/1219691612047052800https://twitter.com/Cdnmooselips33/status/1219691612047052800

[Guest 41Forever]

Two more writers posted Jeter-and-done ballots, according to Ballot Tracker.



One is a guy from a Pittsburgh radio station. The other surprised me. Dan Shaughnessy from Boston. And last year he only voted for Rivera.

[kcmets]

Anyone here get an invite to Steve J Roger's Jeter HOF Announcement Shindig?

Yeah, me neither...

[Willets Point]

=41Forever post_id=30241 time=1579632500 user_id=69]
The other surprised me. Dan Shaughnessy from Boston. And last year he only voted for Rivera.

[Guest 41Forever]

This is tough to watch so far. Costas dropped the phrase "intangibles" and is telling us to ignore WAR because doesn't tell the whole story, and another -- might have been Harold Reynolds -- saying something like, "It's all about the pinstripes."

[stevejrogers]

Anyone here get an invite to Steve J Roger's Jeter HOF Announcement Shindig? Yeah, me neither...

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e4/d3/0d/e4d30dd7b0cc1c94c37c52d6b5c59356.gif>

[Guest 41Forever]

The incredible stalling here makes me think it's just Jeter.

[seawolf17]

I thought the actual announcement doesn't come until 6pm ET?

[stevejrogers]

=41Forever post_id=30252 time=1579638804 user_id=69]
The incredible stalling here makes me think it's just Jeter.

[kcmets]

Four hours and they're still ball washing. Is this CNN?

[bmfc1]

Congratulations to Larry Walker on his election to the Hall of Fame!

[A Boy Named Seo]

Some American hero did not vote for Jeets (99.7). Show yourself and collect thy prize!

[G-Fafif]

Bless you, voter who DGAF.