Zvon

="cooby"]Sorry, Zvon, these old Mets pictures are great, but seeing Mrs. Payson just sets me to reminiscing... : ) lmao...are u kiddin? I love it.:) Laughter should be everyones #1 priority on the internet. With porn a close second. I cant guarantee thats the actual color of her dress. I colorized that picture from a black & white photo, and I was the one who decided she'd look pretty in pink. lol.

great article and very true. I mentioned this before, and I will again now. Willie seems a bit nervous when the media says this years Mets team is a frontrunner in making the playoffs. This should be a make or break season for Randolf in the minds of the fans. Even if there are unexpected problems, he must manage adversity. I initially said give the man 3 years to see what he can do. But what he does in 2006 could change that in a heartbeat. Omar has aquired many of the things he needs to bring it home this up coming season. The pressures on, Willie. You cant downplay it or wish it away.

1969 World Series, Game Two If you look closely you can see Brets mom.

seawolf17 wrote: Coulda bought eight of 'em for three bucks. The Clemens rookie from that year was one of the ones I was missing; it killed me to have to buy one, but I got one on eBay for six bucks, including shipping. I thought that was a pretty sweet deal. Anyone who has any of the cards on my need list, please feel free to drop me a line. That '85 Gooden was always a tuff one to find a real nice print of. Clemens was also in that '84 Fleer traded set, but he wasnt a Met so im sure I used that card to fund my Met collection. last time it was in my hands it may have been worth $100 in the priceguide. Im afraid to look what its listed for now.

seawolf17 wrote: That's a match, and I'd get that stack of cards. Then you would flip your next card, and the game would continue. That's the way we played. thats the great thing about the cards we grew up with, and why they are the real deal and the golden age of baseball cards. We stuck our favorites in our spokes,...flipped em, tied em up with rubber bands and stuck in our pocket to go down to the playground and play colors. Thats why the cards from the 50s,60s,70s,..and yea,..even alot of the 80s are the cards that should REALLY be worth something. All of em. Cause people werent aware of what they were worth. Today people are just TO aware. Baseball cards these days? Theres a different mindset. Its more like a mini stock market.

="seawolf17"] This card may have had more to do with my resurgence into the hobby and the hobby becoming serious than anything else.. I collected as a kid,....70 to,mmmmmm 77ish. And started again when the Mets had some awsum rookies like Gooden come up. Getting his 84 Fleer traded set rookie was a quest. I guess its just a common card anymore.*sob* I havent looked at price guides for many years.

At one time, back in the early 90's, I had a collection of every Topps Met baseball card ever printed.1962 to 1994. (Fleer and Donruss too, and started on Upper Deck but the hobby went out of control around that time,imo) Took quite afew years to assemble.It was my pride and joy. Most of it was lost in what Ill only refer to as 'the unfortunate purge'. I was fortunate to have had the oldest and most expensive cards of the collection seperate from the bulk of commons, which were kept in binders. Any card worth over $100 bucks was stored in a fireproof safebox. I still have those cards, all in great shape and in hard plastic. Great story behind the '67 Topps Seaver rookie. But you'd really have to know and appreciate what a dozen '84 Mattingly Donruss rookie cards were worth in around '87/'88. Good story behind the Ryan too. Got that card for 45 bucks. (I can scan these if u wish to see--they are in awsum shape) I dont sell cards, just collect them, and I can see what kind of shape a cards in easily enough. And thats all that matters to me. I would NEVER mail any card I value away to be graded. (I would do it if I was allowed to stand right there with the person grading it until it was done. But to what end? Im not interested in selling them and their value is what I put on them>IE-I think Seavers hi-number '67 rookie should list at a higher price than Ryans more common '68 rookie) Two of my brothers dabble more in buying and selling of baseball cards, and did mail some cards to be graded years back. Id have to refresh my memory with the details from them, but they did not enjoy the experience.

Am I the only one who remembers back in the days before Cal Ripken, when 99.9% of all shortstops were primarily valued for their glovework? Im not surprized at all that Reyes has posted numbers that offensively top the list of Met shortstops.

Edgy DC wrote: What do you mean by "cite Peterson chapter and verse as things are going down"? I see his name come up alot reading informative reports. Peterson said this, Peterson believes that. He always seems to be getting a positive spin.

1969 World Series

If the media is going to cite Peterson chapter and verse as things are going down, I see no reason why he shouldnt be taking more heat when the media is looking for staff scapegoats. I think he's a good pitching coach, but i do believe he makes mistakes and it would be nice to see him own up to one.

Im the slowest typer on the board. Dont deny it. I think Reyes discipline at the plate is key. Id like to see more walks, but id settle for him only swinging at pitches around the strike zone. Also, knowing [u:f72b503943]when[/u:f72b503943] to take a pitch. I want to see him thinking more like a ballplayer who knows the repercussions of his decisions. Who is aware of situational play. What Im looking for experience growth. I do expect to see some of that in some form or another over the 2006 season. Id be happy to afford him the time for this growth. To continue being a lead off hitter at this level he would have to continue to improve.

That is a beautiful article G-Fafif. It brings back so much. That make up game in Chicago to decide the pennant in '73....... It was the first time I ever cut school. I went to Macy's on Queens Blvd and watched the game in the TV dept. In color too, because we didnt have a color set yet in those days. No one bothered me. They knew where I was supposed to be and they knew exactly why I was there. I watched the whole game and when Tug wrapped it up, I became a believer for life. And what Tug imparted to me that summer went far beyond just baseball.

Where Im located these days (SJ) it didnt matter what team you followed. Everyone is a Tug fan down here.

lol @ the [u:0dcd175a1a]hes a big fat pig[/u:0dcd175a1a] link. we all have to be thinking it.... feeling it. (brets excused) How when next season starts, and Piazza isnt there, we have begun a new chapter in Met history.

1966

Centerfield wrote: What's the over/under on the next Zvon-lubitul copyright infringement? Hope he contributes himself. (unfortunately crediting the photographers would be impossible for most of these pictures. The info wasnt available)

This may help address our surplusses and needs, but i dont like this deal on face value. Maybe this will pan out and favor us, and thats all i can hope. Cause Seo as a chip could have been used much more wisely.

Edgy DC wrote: I suspect it may be largely conjecture that playing a setup role behind a top closer reduces a former closer's value. I mean, how stupid do we think GMs are? Does every one of them really say, "Well, he had a 2.15 ERA and whiffed 10.4 men per nine innings, but he had only six saves. He must be slipping." Flash Gordon got his bad self a three-year, $18 million contract at 38 years old for doing fine setup work behind Mariano Rivera. I agree with that too, edge. But if a guy establishes himself as a bonifide closer, Id rather see him do what he does best somewhere, and continue to pile up career saves. I would never want to stand in the way of that. Its hard enough for a non starting pitcher to find his way into the hall of fame. Im not saying he will or should get there, but as long as he's effective I think its not fair to take him out of that all important (by todays standards) role.

Ill start off with a player who we sadly had to say goodbye to in 2005, Donn Clendenon.

I dont know how this will work. Ill let it evolve. What [u:bab86cd54f]Im[/u:bab86cd54f] gonna try to do is pick a Met player and during the week post my favorite pictures of that player. Ill try and provide real good quality images for collecting. Feel free to join me, or post a choice of your own. The bottomline, this should be a kool Met picture thread.

Edgy DC wrote: OK, kewl. Didn't mean to be funny, but kewl. its only tuesday. The week is still young. hehe

="Yancy Street Gang"]Oops, here it is: http://cybermessageboard.ehost.com/getalife/viewtopic.php?t=2089&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0 It's already a Featured Archive. thanks Yancy. Baez: ] "I don't know if I want to be a setup guy. I want to be a closer. "But if they trade me, I don't have a choice. If they want me to be a setup guy, that's what I'll do." I guess its true that he wouldnt have a choice, but I wouldnt do that to an established closer in his walk year. Thats just not right. Im sure he's glad the Mets are running up his value, though.

Edgy DC wrote: I only buy at Borders when there's no other way. LMAOOOOOO laff of the week so far^