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Benjamin Grimm wrote: Yeah, I'm not sure what to make of that. The manager doesn't need to be in the loop on these negotiations, but that doesn't mean he isn't. It really depends on what internal relationship he has with Stearns and Cohen. Exactly. well, if he has been in the loop up until now, i suspect he no longer is.

=Centerfield post_id=180275 time=1733353138 user_id=65] Michael Kay, who complained that there should be a Golden AB type of rule because the Yankees had two good hitters, of course supported Manfred when the news broke, and has now backtracked. The rule is so absolutely beyond stupid. *Would the hitter being replaced lose his AB? Or would he then get to bat after the golden batter? If you did that, how the fuck would you fix your scorecard? *What if you pulled a batter off the bench to be the Golden AB. Is he now burned? Or can you still PH with him later on? *If your Golden Batter reaches, can you pinch run for him? Is he a golden runner? Is your golden runner burned? Or can he re-enter the game? *If your Golden Batter is on base, who pinch runs for him when he comes to bat? Can you pick anyone to run for him? Or is it the last batted out? Is that runner now burned? *Can you use your Golden AB to break up a perfect game/no hitter in the 9th? Or does that violate the unwritten rules? *Can you use a player who has been subbed out as your Golden Batter? *What if your Golden Batter gets hurt mid AB? Can you sub for him? What would stop a team from sending a HR hitter to take the first two swings, feign an injury, then replace him with a great 2 strike hitter? *Can you negotiate in your contract that you get to be the Golden Batter? (and that way ensuring more ABs) *Do hitting records get an asterisk if a player gets 150 extra ABs in a season? *You announce your intent to use your Golden AB. The other team makes a pitching change. Can you pinch hit for your Golden Batter? *WHAT IF YOUR GOLDEN HITTER IS THE GHOST RUNNER ON SECOND

i keep trying to talk myself into that one, too, with sean manaea along for the ride.

hopefully this means we're all set at the 5th man in the rotation.... i am more than a little surprised at how much he's got here. i don't hate the signing per se, but i'm not in love with it either. as with the rest of everything we do this offseason, it all depends on what the rest of the team looks like.

Bellinger is the kind of guy who, if he goes to your favorite team, will suck hard and often. But if he goes to you biggest rival will invariably regain his mvp ways. Pass. But he'll do great on the braves, who will pay nothing for him.

=Centerfield post_id=179578 time=1732296038 user_id=65] I mean, not really. Juan Soto is averaging 5.2 in WAR over his first 7 seasons. If you remove the sixty game 2020 season, his average yearly WAR is 5.66. His last four seasons are 7.9, 5.5, 5.5 and 7.1. Gooden started out strong, with WAR of 5.5, 12.2 and 4.5 over his first three seasons. Then he never hit 4.0 ever again in his career. In his four seasons leading up to his age 26 season he went 2.5, 1.5, 3.4, 3.7. He's really not close to Juan Soto. But let's say for argument that Gooden is as good as Soto. That's 2 players in 62 years. So you can hope that your team will scout and recruit and do whatever they can, but it's inescapable that the likelihood of developing your own Juan Soto is extremely unlikely. And the likelihood that they'll develop one in time to help this core win is basically negligible. There isn't a single prospect on the farm who's realistic upside is anywhere near Juan Soto. So again, you can temper your desire to get Juan Soto off anyone else's team for whatever reason you want. But it's absolutely wrong to suggest that it makes sense to do so because: (a) these deals tend to do south (they don't) ( You can develop your own Juan Soto (sure, I guess, but highly, highly unlikely) © We've never signed one as good? (I think that's your argument? There's only been a few as good as him. And it worked out great for the teams that did. And the big free agents we signed worked out terrific as well. Beltran and Piazza. Two of the best Mets ever. And they remained productive right up until the end of their deals)

seaver was tops from 67-76 thru 70-79, so four such decades, and was top five in four others for eight total. jack morris placed 2nd in 79-88, and was also 3rd in 80-89, 4th in 82-91, and 5th in both 78-87 and 83-92. bert blyleven, on the other hand, was 1st three times from 71-80 thru 73-82, and was top five in eight others for thirteen total. yeah... it should not have taken 14 years for him to get voted into the hall. clemens showed up the most, as far as i can tell, fifteen times. that son of a bitch.

here's a fun question... if a player was the best pitcher in the league over a 10-year period, meaning, topping the cumulative WAR leaderboard for a period of 10 consecutive seasons, would you think that player sufficiently good to be considered a hall of famer? ten years is a long time. and to be the top performer at a position over that decade...? wow, right? and... it also accounts for shifts in usage and gameplay and all that because instead of comparing, say, roy oswalt to pud galvin, you're looking at gooden vs clemens vs maddux, etc. for the record, the current leader in this regard is max scherzer, with 47 fWAR from 2015-2024. pretty darned good! in fact, if we look at the top five, we'll see the following names in order: Cole, DeGrom, Kershaw, Sale. not a bad group! i dare say, the logic tracks. 1957-66? boom sandy koufax. 67-76? lookie there, tom seaver. 1900-09? cy young. i could go on... anyways... if i brute force it and look at some 10-year periods in the middles of their careers... what do you think i find? well, if i look at the number on e guy for each 10 year period from 1980-89 thru 2015-24, i get the following names: max scherzer (4x 12-21:15-24) clayton kershaw (5x 07-16:11-20) . . roy halladay (3x 01-10:03-12) randy johnson (7x 93-02:95-04 ; 97-06:00-09) pedro martinez (1x 96-05) greg maddux (4x 89-98:92-01) roger clemens (7x 82-91:88-97) nolan ryan (2x 80-89:81-90) these all look like clear hall of famers, antics and PEDs aside. who could possibly question those names, right? oh.. right. the gap. sorry. felix hernandez (2x 05-14:06-15) cc sabathia (1x 04-13) felix was also in the top five in four other decades: (#4 04-13, #3 07-16, #4 08-17, & #5 09-18) cc was top five in five other decades (#3 01-10, #2 02-11, #2 03-12, #4 05-14, & #4 06-15) it is very rare for non hall-of-famers to appear in this list. notable players with repeat appearances include kevin brown (6) bret saberhagen and dwight gooden (5) and roy oswalt (4) i'm certainly tempted to look at earlier dates, but i do have a life. i'll consider adding to my table in the future. but the point is, that it would be a noteworthy omission to consider the best pitcher for a given decade to be NOT a hall of famer. moreso to do it twice. it's worth stating that i was not expecting the results to be quite so stark. i'm half-tempted to expand my research into other positions around the diamond. but again, that takes time and effort.

it would be cool to own a place and then air bnb the shit out of it during the season.

i voted for ichiro, cc, and felix. ichiro is a slam dunk. cc is a little harder, and felix is a stretch, or maybe not. but hear me out. felix had a great start to his career, and then was felled by injuries and overuse. fangraphs says he topped out at 54 WAR. that's damned good. he hit 50 WAR by 28. that's phenomenal! if he quit at 30, due to a catastrophic injury, he'd sail in. instead he stuck around and tried to make it work until it couldnt. and that hurts his case. cc stuck around a bit longer, figured out how to be effective after injury changed him, finishing with 65 WAR. that's 10 more than sale, 20 more than cole or degrom, 30 more than wheeler, nola. if cc isn't a hall of famer, then after verlander, kershaw, grienke, and scherzer get in, we may never induct another starter into the hall of fame. maybe sale, or maybe cole, if either of them can stick around for a long time, but that's gonna be it. for a while. are we really, truly, about to enter a time when there are no future hall of fame starters plying their trade? i don't think so. i think the scale needs adjusting. i was tempted to vote pedroia, because a vote for pedroia is a vote for wright. they have very, very similar hof cases overall. i think they're both just short, but not by too terribly much. they both should get in (along with felix) via the (imaginary) puckett clause.

monster contracts work, because stars win games. you just need to be sure to surround them with a solid cast of characters. because bums lose games. and its the bad contracts to bums that gets general managers fired.

lol at the sad yankee fans sticking around to boo the dodgers. Pathetic.

Mookie should sue him for assault. Motherfucker came damned close to wrenching his elbow off.

Jose Quintana no Pete Alonso yes, but within reason. meaning, less than freddy freeman money Sean Manaea yes, 3 year deal Luis Severino likely no, but QO J.D. Martinez no Harrison Bader sure, if he'll stay Phil Maton yes Adam Ottavino no Ryne Stanek maybe, but i'd rather have maton Drew Smith no Jesse Winker maybe, but i'd rather have bader i like the defensive upside of bader for the outfield. i like winker a lot, but i do worry that he'll wear thin over a full year. and if we get soto, we won't need either of 'em. stanek pitches like his hair is on fire, but on the whole i trust maton more. i'm also on team trade mcsquirrel. it's a bit of a risk since we have so many relatively unproven youngsters on infield, but if you can get something really useful back for him, i'd pull the trigger. I'm very curious what'll happen with iglesias. he'll get a job somewhere if it isn't here, but i don't know that he gets the full time gig that he'd be looking for. maybe on a second division team. on this team, he can be a near-regular super utility player, and regular mentor for the kids. I hope he can see that as worth his while. I do think we got the best year out of him that he's ever going to give, but i like the approach he brings to the game.

from 2019 to today, among all relievers who've thrown a total of 100ip or more, edwin diaz has the 6th best FIP at 2.64, and the 2nd best SIERA. And that's with a garbage 2019 and a rollercoaster 2024. I'll take it.

=Cowtipper post_id=177264 time=1729596756 user_id=166] I'd like them to find a suitor for Edwin Diaz. He gave us five years of very up and down baseball. 2019 was awful, 2020 was great but stunted, 2021 was okay, 2022 was otherworldly, 2023 didn't happen, 2024 was pretty rough. Say adios to Diaz, as well.

i could see the mets going after soto and walker, and thanking pete for his services. i could also see them going after soto and keeping pete, too. i'd be ok with that too.

nah... we had our chances, multiple times. too many damned times, to chip away and tie these games. we just didn't capitalize. for fucks sake, how many times did we have the bases loaded last night? felt like ten, damnit. we were right in this series, the whole time.

Dang. Hell of a season, metsies. Hell of a season. Now load up for next year.

Keep it going!

Let's go! Base runner!

They're cocky. Time to score seven.

Phooey

The winker soldier strikes again.