John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: What makes you so convinced? The kid is 22 and hit the living shit out of the ball. Limited defensively I'd say, probably not a good SS over a long period even, but I'd bet he'll outproduce Muffy beginning in '15, given equal opportunity to play. What do you say? Let's bet a beer on it. If Flores was given one position and was allowed to remain in the lineup every day, I have no doubt he'd outproduce Murph over the course of a season. And that's no slight against Murphy, who is what he is- an above-average singles and doubles hitter and a less-than-average fielder. Flores, in addition to being much younger, is a better fielder and has much more pop. He was told to play shortstop and did it passably. Now imagine Murphy at shortstop. The problem is that you can't have both of them in the lineup as the middle infielders. One position has to be manned by a good fielder to help cover for the deficiencies of the other. I don't think Murphy's going to get better or have more trade value than he does right now. So that, plus the realities of the Wilpons (much as we hate them) means he needs to be traded this winter.